Why Nobody Buys These $200 Cameras Anymore
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2023
- Who doesn't love a pocket camera from Lumix? The GX1 comes in as one of the most affordable street photography cameras with an interchangeable lens mount. When paired with prime lenses or pancake micro four thirds zoom lenses, this becomes one of the most fun cameras I have ever used.
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📝 NOTE:
At 2:00 I compare three zoom lenses across MFT, E and FX mounts.
The lenses shown are the lenses I have available to compare on camera - however, smaller zoom lenses are available for Sony E mount and Fuji X mount:
e.g. Sony 28-60mm f/4-5.6 Full Frame 'pancake' and Fujifilm 15-45mm f/3.5-5.6.
Neither is as small as the MFT 12-32, but the size difference is less significant.
Additionally, the 12-32mm is variable aperture of f/3.5-5.6, whereas the two larger Sony and Fuji lenses shown are constant f/2.8 aperture lenses.
Thanks for that clarification! I think it doesn't harm the overall message regarding the compact size of the system.
@@paperazzo thank you, I appreciate the feedback!
@@paperazzo I do think it's kind of misleading. The equivalent of the 12-32 exist in fuji form and it's their XC 15-45mm, wich yes is a bit bigger than the 12-32 but much less than the 16-55. And the 12-32 and 15-45 are the around the same prize brand new... There are a few differences between the 2 but they are lot more similar tha the 2 fuji compared.
@@showdaKOs I understand and have addressed the issue, apart from deleting my entire video all I can do is do better next time if making a similar point
@@GeorgeHolden Great Video! Which one is the best camera (Foto/Video) in form of quality of the footage? Thanks! :)
I use a Lumix G9 and I’m sometimes tempted to switch to a crop system. But then I see the cost of lenses for other formats and I realise it’s a daft idea.
Very true! Make sure to watch to the end...
@@GeorgeHolden Holy crap.
@@GeorgeHolden I’ve never won anything before! And what are the chances I’d be the first to comment?! Thanks George!!
@@TomPollardPhotography when I saw your name I had to triple check there's not 2 Tom Pollards 😅 congrats! I'll be in touch via IG in the next couple of days to arrange shipping 🙏
@@GeorgeHolden Well that’s made my day, thank you!
I’ve been regressing to old ccd cameras from the early 2000’s. It’s crazy how good some of them are and how well they hold up. It brings the challenge back to photography and helps me slow down. Now I’m addicted to buying lenses for them haha
That's great to hear, thanks for sharing!
ive heard that the ccd cameras from way back then are produce some pretty bold colors. Im still new to photography, but would love to try one out myself. Just wondering if there was a particular camera that you would actually buy with a ccd sensor?
@@OVERLORD2404get yourself a Nikon D50 if you want a slightly bigger camera to hold, or for something smaller find a Olympus E-300. If you want a point and shoot camera find a Canon Powershot G10
Which ones?
@@OVERLORD2404 I bought a D40, which works great as a 6MP point and shoot. Then I got a 10MP D80, which is much better as it has 2 control dials. Both make lovely pictures if you get the exposure right. Nikon 18-70mm work well with them and is very cheap. Or the 35mm 1.8 lens if you want super-sharp pictures.
Interesting video as always. As a person who has changed camera systems multiple times over the years I have always gravitated back to the M43 system for it's size and performance ratio. I can also say I'm never disappointed with any of my m43 images. I also have a couple of full frame cameras that I use for specific type of shots but my e-m10 mark III is definitely my fun camera to use.
That's great to hear and thank you! Yeah I often feel my MFT images have been so much fun especially in the process of capturing some of them too.
Another informative video George, thank you.
I have followed a similar road in my photographic journey, having given up on chasing the newest and latest gear.
It started with a box of half a dozen old compact cameras, bought from a house clearance outlet, among which were a lumix GF2 and a Lumix LX5.
I started enjoying my photography more with these older cameras, having dismissed them for so long.
My collection has doubled and then some, with a canon powershot G12 being a firm favourite.
Thanks Andy, that's really interesting to hear and yes love a powershot! I recently picked up a much older powershot which I'm excited to try out soon
Congrats Tom! - great video George!
Thanks so much!
I changed to M43 a few years ago when I purchased the Lumix GX85, a great camera and excellent value for money. My only complaint was the view finder, which was to small. I traded it in for the OM-E Mk 5ii because of the compact format, lens compatability and the look and feel. Even though it's 8 years old, it doesn't stop being a solid camera. It goes just about everywhere with me. A few months ago I
saw a Lumix GF1 on the web for 110,00€ and teamed this up with my Lumix 20mm lens, a perfect in the pocket combination. On holidays recently my wife, a phone picture taker, got curious about using a camera and loved it. A lot of rambling but yes, I agree with you, these cameras have a fun feel, and being a hobby, keep you interested and learning. Thanks for your video.
That's great and thanks for watching!
I normally shoot with Fuji, but I picked up a s/h GX80 with 12-32mm lens for under £200, specifically for holidays. I also picked up the Oly 45mm 1.8 portrait lens and the Oly 40-150mm zoom, both of which were very cheap and are super light. When I am away on holiday, I now feel far more comfortable walking around in a strange environment with the GX80 kit than I would with my much more expensive Fuji set up. If I were to get mugged and lose it, it wouldn't be the end of the world! I find the 12-32mm lens to be an amazing lens for its size and weight and the 24-64mm equivalent zoom range is very useful. With the 40-150mm (80-300 equiv) zoom, you really can get in close with a very light setup. On one holiday, a birdwatcher in our hotel said that I was getting in way closer than he was with his Leica binoculars and he actually said that he was jealous! As for the IQ, I sometimes have to look at the metadata to remind me whether I was using the Panasonic, or the Fuji.
Thanks for sharing!
Completely agree about the quality of Panasonic colour science, I've have the lx-3, lx-5, lx-100 and the GH4. It's also interesting to note that one of the most beloved Nikons', the D700 used a panasonic sensor :)
Hi George,
Glad you mention the Nikon Coolpix 8400. Fabulous results when the light is right. Same goes for the 8800, its longer lens sibling. Sometimes I leave all the modern stuff at home and take only these Coolpixes for travelling.
Several other budget cameras you can include in your reviews would include any of the Olympus PEN series, the later ones which are far more advanced than the GX-1. Also the original Olympus E-M1 is going for about $250.00 and is a professional grade body built like a tank and fully weather sealed. Keep up the good work.
All good ideas!
I just discovered your channel - my whole ethos is to enjoy photography on a budget and it has been fantastic watching content from someone who shares that ethos - thank you :-)
Thank you Nick, very kind of you and happy you enjoy the channel 😄
I Love my GX85, I upgraded from the old APSC canon I'd learned on at the beginning of the year and the portability of M43 made more sense to me as a system.
I picked up an EM-10 mk1 and 14-42 used as a knock around camera... I am a Nikon guy for reference, and own all pro bodies and lenses. I was very surprised at the functionality of this little camera, and the quality overall ( for the price ) and, like you, I started looking into an OM1 ! Well, I may get one if I find one at a good price. It really opened my eyes to Olympus and the micro 4/3 genre. Great video, as always.
That's great to hear, thanks for sharing!
Yep great combo. I have the same plus a few primes. I have a 36 Mpixel Nikon at work, but it's way to bulky and heavy. Now what I really hate about photography is stating in front of a computers for hours. I'm a darkroom addict
Well, there are also a lot of models inbetween the EM10 Mk i and the OM1. EM1 Mks i, ii and iii for instance. Metal bodies, popular ergonomics. EM10 ii is tiny and very nice. Metal also. Not for video though. EM5 Mk ii is metal bodied and highly rated. The EM5 iii is polycarbonate body but highly functional and smaller than the EM1 Mk ii with similar functionality. All these are discontinued now I think but readily available secondhand.
I have the EM5 MkII and the EM1 MkII. The EM5 is great, so small and fits in a pocket with the right lens. While the EM1 is somewhat bigger, its autofocus and controls blow the EM5 away.
I love my lumix cameras. I bought a G2 in 2015 and later a GH4 and G90. I now have lenses that cover full frame equivalent from 14mm to 800mm. Light, well built and small. Nice.
I know it's not a an m43 camera but I've been dreaming of a Panasonic Lumix LX100 II for many years.
I meant "not an m43 system camera", it has a fixed attached lens with an m43 sensor.
Loved this, great vid
Thanks!
No one buys them any more, because one is enough.
Some might say it's one too many.
One is never enough
*coughs loudly, UA-camrs
Oh ha ha ha so funny - what did you have for breakfast a clown.
One is enough, for each brand. How about that? 😂
Despite having fallen in love with Fuji, I've kept my GX1 bought cheap from Hong Kong when it first came out. It's got an amazing solid feel to it, and combined with the 14mm makes for a really small out on the street camera. Thanks for highlighting a hidden gem.
Thank you. Ray for something fun and compact. Best camera is the one you have with you.
Indeed it is!
Great video! For the last few years I have been into the M43 system, both Panasonic and Olympus. I am currently using an Olympus EM10 Mark 3 and really enjoy it. It's a well-crafted camera, and looks great too. As for photo quality, no one has ever looked at any of my photos and said they would have been better using a full-frame camera. And I only shoot JPEGs.
Thank you and that's great to hear!
I learned photography with 110, instant film, Kodak Disc, and a point-and-shoot 35mm with one on-off switch for the flash. It blows my mind how today a 8/16-megapixel camera can be considered unacceptable in terms of image quality.
Always good to find people on YT interested in "interesting" cameras! I've been a committed M43 user for many years and have never found the format wanting. I also have an unhealthy addiction / love hate relationship with Sigma cameras - but that's another story...... Subscribed on the basis of this vid! You did a really good job here of being honest about M43.
Love the weird and strange cameras!
"I do really be THAT guy". 🤣👌 I appreciate the humor along with your honest thoughts and reviews of these older cameras! Subscribed! 🥳
I love the channel, "Old Cameras" are interesting and how you said even for 10 or more years it is hard to find a bad camera.
Photography is for me at first enjoy taking pictures and having fun.
It was a pleasure to enter the Megapicskills community and I will continue to # my picture in the future.
Thank you! And yes completely agree, hope to continue seeing more of your images on the #megapicskills feed!
Just bought a GF1 for about $75 a few months back. Great little everyday walkaround camera (for non-serious stuff i guess). Mainly got it so I can always have a camera with me that's not a large FF mirrorless camera (something i can fit in a coat pocket with the lens on). Grabbed the 12-32 used, and while the GF1 is only 12MP it's plenty for casual day to day shooting of random stuff. (Obviously my FF cameras will still be my primary cameras for regular stuff and the GF1 is more for playing around and so I keep shoot on a daily basis).
I'm a D500/D850 enthusiast user with lots of nice lenses. Both were bought used in excellent condition.
I just bought a used Olympus E-M1 iii with a 12-40 f2.8 lens. I'm REALLY EXCITED to get that camera in my hands!
Nice!
I use used M43 and APSC .... The used Lumix and Olympus M43 bodies and lenses are pure gold.
I prefer M43 system (GF1, GX880, EP-1) for travelling light, but I still have my Canon EF and M for APSC.
I also use the Lumix LX7 and TZ90 when wanting to travel really light.
That's great to hear, thanks for sharing!
George, another cool video. I actually have 2x G7, EM10Mii and Miii, 2x GX85, a Y1M1, and EPL1, all but one of these was found used within the past 4 years along with a ton of lenses and almost all of the one's you mention in this video. I love the M43 system although I do have APSc and FF bodies mainly from Nikon. I also have a Canon G7Xmii I found very cheap used and very similar to an LX10 which I can't seem to find for an affordable price.
That's great to hear, thanks for sharing!
I used to always drool over the latest and greatest cameras but now I'm really happy capturing memories with my Olympus Pen E-PL2 and several digicams. (I bought all of them for bargain prices which makes me and my wallet feel even more joyful hahahahaha.)
With that said, I just want to say thank you to all the awesome photography/videography content creators (which includes you George🙌🏽) for shedding light on under appreciated cameras and always sharing wonderful insights to us viewers.
Thanks Jose! So happy to hear you're enjoying your Pen and other digicams! I have 2 I need to get out to shoot with ASAP! And happy to hear you enjoy the videos as much as I enjoy making them 😄
I never put much thought into M43, but I will definitely consider getting one. Its not so much the gear, but how you use it. Looking at some people's work using older cameras. It proves the point. Nice video. Cheers.
Thanks!
Did you get around to getting an MFT camera? I shoot with the EM-5 II which is an absolute tank of a camera
My everyday compact camera is the Panasonic Lumix LX5 coupled with the Panasonic DMW-LVF1 electronic viewfinder. It is such a joy taking photos with this setup.
That sounds great!
Love my LX5, I take it with me on my motorcycle rides to document places I've visited.
I still have original Pentax Ist*D - it has nice dedicated controls, decent sensor and runs on AA rechargeable cells. Display isn't great by today's standards but it has decent optical VF.
I find the way you consider how people perceive cameras based on size to be interesting. I recently got a Nikon D810 and realized that even with my 24-120 lens on, they really don't care that i'm taking photos, even indoors at places. I even feel that they're more receptive the bigger my kit is.
That's interesting, I suppose it also depends on who or what you're aiming your camera at - I can feel quite natural with a big camera at an event grabbing candids, but on the street I find smaller cameras are paid attention to less, meaning I can get closer candids in places where a big camera would be too obvious
Where people expect photos to be taken, the bigger system can often be an 'all-access pass'.
I got another RX100 used after breaking another lens when it powered on in a bag.
This whole Micro 4/3s skipped past me shopping timeline since EDC shooting with phones, those pancake lenses are a really compelling buy to replace the RX100 or Powershot. I thought I had an DSLR on the horizon, but the RX100 revived takes great photos and I have to break the capability limits of the compact before researching DSLR/mirrorless. This video helped fill in some of the gap of understanding of the compactness and sneakiness of Micro 4/3s. I don't want to touch Sony menus in the future.
When I went from my Lumix GO to my current A7III, I was shocked to see how the G9 was much better with it's menu system, handling and ergonomics.
The A7III has advantages, but compact cameras are really capable!
Yes they really are!
Excellent video as always.
My EM5iii PanaLeica 15mm combo's RAW images reguarly outshine those captured with my much heavier and larger FF Q2!
Absolutely no regrets selling off my Z6 and 3 primes for the Oly echo system. MFT = best kept photography secrest 😊
P.S I miss that creepy dude lurking in the hallway. Hope he makes a comeback.
That's great to hear, thanks for sharing! And yeah I'm sure he will 😅 I was a bit unwell filming this so kept it simple
It would be great to list the contents of the video in the description, especially when talking about a certain product. I'm sure I'm not alone when I say I go back to videos and it's a pain having to skim through for exactly what I'm looking for. Keep up the great work with the content.
Thanks may add them!
I use the Leica equivalent of the LX100 and it is very good. The 4/3rd s sensor means that directly equivalent lenses weigh an eighth of the full frame version (0.5×0.5×0.5 =0.125). The camera is small and versatile and only camera needs an pros know what the red dot means on an otherwise plain-looking camera.
Nice!
Totally agree to your assessment. I do buy nowadays only older cameras
Great to hear! Love the older cameras
@@GeorgeHolden just restoring a Nikon Coolpix A. Highly recommend because it has an amazing APS-C sensor with great resolution until ISO 1250. Then it’s getting pretty grainy quickly
Great video, it's always a good time when you release a mft video. If you're looking into getting a more serious micro four thirds body I would suggest the OM-D EM-5 mk 3 as it has simular age and price to the em10 mk 4 but more video features - flip out instead of flip down lcd and mic imput.
Thanks and that's great to know! As I said I'm hoping not to spend too much on a MFT body anytime soon, I really enjoy trying different kit set ups rather than over investing in non-pro kit
How about case crack body in tripod mount em 5 mkiii? Quality body before em5 mkiii is better
One day I randomly came across some photos on Flickr and just had to know what they took them with cause they looked so unique! Turns out it was the LX100. I had to turn around and get one asap. Highly underrated for sure!
Great video. Just great.
Over the last 2 decades I've gone from Nikon to Sony, Micro Four Thirds, Fuji and now back to Olympus. I'm shooting a pair of OM-5's (from the "new" Olympus, OMDS) now and absolutely adore them. The computational photography features are actually a blast to play with and have practical applications as well. I've owned a ton of older cameras just because I like them also but I've sold most of them now and just have the OM-5's. I'm a "seasoned citizen" and I doubt very much I'll have reason to change systems again in my lifetime but these cameras are so good I don't think that matters. I have two daughters and a grandson that are Micro Four Thirds people. The daughters shoot Panasonic and the grandson Olympus. Sometimes they borrow my lenses, lol.
Great video.
That's great to hear, thanks for sharing!
I used to be a keen hobbyist, but got tired of dragging my old bulky DSLR gear around. Particularly since smartphone cameras got better. Looking on mpb, a GX80 or GX9 seems like the best way to get back into cameras again, and a worthy trade for the old gear. I’ve watched a few of your videos this morning and the information you provided has been really helpful. Thank you!
Every camera is an „extra thing“ whether it’s a compact, a micro4/3 or a full frame camera. It’s not even the point of „smaller and lighter“, even a Olympus PEN won’t fit in your pocket.
But iPhone-Photography is boring, every photo looks the same, and that’s okay.
Sometimes I throw in my x100V for business trips, but if you want to travel light, even that is sometimes too much.
I ended up getting a GX80 and a 20mm f1.7 lens. I've had it a couple of days now and for me, it's the perfect size for general carrying. Even if it's a little heavier than I expected.
Best of all, it reignited a passion that had been lost. I haven't had so much fun taking pictures in a long time.
Great, this solidify my decision to jump into MFT a year ago from APSC and Full Frame. Really happy i made the decision to move to GH5ii.
That's great to hear!
Got my GX1 for $30 including shipping, took the filters and now use it for black and white infrared photography with a 720 nm filter, awesome camera
Bought mine nearly 10 years ago. Love the Panasonic GX1. I went full in and bought a few second hand lenses. Maybe I will get a newer body one day but I do like Micro Four Thirds.
I plan to buy GX1 camera, should I also buy Leica 12/32 lenses along with it?
Weird question, but what dust blower are you using in the thumbnail?! 👀
Normal question! I actually have no idea, I think it came with a cheap LED light I bough years ago 😂 I think any rocket blower is good!
Purchased 2 GX85 and 1 GX9 at a 250$ price tag on sale and couldn’t be happier. This is the main reason I would never switch to 35mm mirrorless (I am happy with my Nikon F DSLRS with bigger sensors) M43 is so lightweight and great combine with 1.7-1.2 lenses
That's great to hear!
It's about the picture taking experience at least as much as image quality. I use a Lumix G1 with even older manual lenses (mostly Canon FD mount). To be honest my smartphone can make technically better images (and has a higher pixel count) but the experience just isn't the same.
For people who like the 28-35mm range [full-frame equiv], the Panasonic 15mm f/1.7 ASPH is one of the best 'medium price' lens. Mount it on the OM-D E-M10 and get a pseudo-X100V for $600 USD!
Good shout! I made a video on that setup, but the Olympus 17mm 1.8 instead
@@GeorgeHolden Haha, yes, I had seen that video, I forgot that it was also yours.
I agree, the Olympus 17mm f/1.8 is a very good lens. But I have trouble being fair to it because the Panasonic 15mm is a little better, but really because the Olympus 17mm f/1.2 is sooooooo good, one of the best M43 lenses for pure image quality. Obviously it gets out of the "budget" realm [$700-800 USD, used] and about 3x the size. But the image quality makes me like the 35mm focal length rage. 🙂
I say all that to support the, "Don't sleep on M43" message. Just got a used GH6 last month, purely because of open gate. To be able to do regular youtube videos *and* youtube shorts in a single take is sweet for educational videos.
I've got a Lumix GFC6 with the stock kit lens. I use it as a pocket buddy to my A7 for things where I want to take my camera, but probably not allowed the massive Sigma lens on my A7 😂 Have to say really impressed especially with the low light performance they have too! Definitely recommend if people are looking for a cheap pocket camera :)
That's great to hear!
I agree with you and put simply , it was why I gave up FF to adopt the EM10 Mkii . This is a great little camera . I carry it in a Billingham digital camera bag and can carry two primes and the kit zoom in that bag . I could also add two dude pockets and still add a few extras .
The camera I bought new direct from Olympus in Germany with the IiR lens for just over £300 and acquired an additional extended warranty period . The bag was new and a birthday present and the two primes were a Christmas gift and the other lens a retirement gift . I can strongly recommend the Sigma f2.8 30 and 60 mm lenses .
I shoot only travel , street and portraiture . For wide shots my 27 mm 1.8 on my phone is perfect .
So, as you can see, you do not need to spend loads to get great results .
Finally , I produce regular photo books and the family and others love the photography .
That's great to hear and love that you produce photo books on a regular basis!
i got the gx1 + kit for only about 150$. Best purchase ever!
i sold the kit after that and bought a 20 1.7 v2. Now it becomes my EDC camera
I fancied the Ricoh GR3x but couldn't justify the price but the I saw a Samsung NX300 20 meg APSc camera with a 30mm lens on ebay for a really cheap price, so I bought it. It's about the same size as my LX 100 and slightly heavier but the IQ is much higher plus it has an articulated touch screen. I love it and it's encouraging me to take some low shots which would be harder with my other cameras.
That's great to hear!
I recently did a low light / high ISO test on my Lumix G9. The unedited raw file had very acceptable levels of noise at 6400 ISO. I use darktable raw file editor and after applying the default noise reduction I had to really pixel peep to see any noise. Maybe the dynamic range is reduced by a few stops at this high ISO but that applies also to full frame though perhaps to a lesser degree. With all the many price and versatility advantages of M43 together with performance that punches way above their weight, I'm not even slightly tempted to go full frame.
An excellent review of the format. Thanks. I have subscribed.
Micro 4/3 are the most underrated for adapting lenses especially vintage lenses made for rangefinders. They also tend to have have tiny bodies perfect for street imop
Thanks for sharing!
Never the specs that made me take a camera out... It's that feeling of enjoying the process of walking, looking and taking images that does it for me...EM53..❤
That's great to hear!
Glad to see more recognition for Micro Four Thirds cameras. Highly recommend you check out some of the Panasonic Leica lenses. I have the 15mm f1.7 and the 25mm f1.4 and they are absolutely incredible. Blows my mind how inexpensive these incredible lenses are.
Yeah true!
The 25mm is ok nothing special
Those two lenses are my two favourites as well. I've played around with a bunch of other m4/3 lenses but those are the only two I've kept all the way through because of how sharp and fun to shoot they are.
The PL25 (and the long since traded away Lumix G3) were my first "big" purchase after my first few pay cheques so I don't think I'll ever get rid of it.
I'm a newbie. I see the progression of MFT as making total sense. I bought a Gh6 bc it plus lenses cost 1/2 or less of what a full frame would. I also really wanted to get one of these smaller MFT for every day shoots, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized that they are bulky - compared to a top cell phone which is just fine for street photos. While I'd like one of these, I also wouldn't like carrying it plus a phone when a phone is good enough. The MFT fits best in the pro-consumer space IMHO.
That's great to hear!
Love pocketable micro four/thirds cameras. Have a Panasonic LUMIX GX85 which goes everywhere I go. I have shot and sold a decent amount of stock footage with it. It's a great little B-cam too.
Thanks for sharing!
MFT system is super underrated. If you learn how to use MFT properly you can get some killer results. Been using the system for the last 5 years and have no intentions of switching!
That's great to hear, thanks for sharing!
I've been using a m4/3 EM5 MK II for years, so def know what they can and can't do! The lenses have been so wonderfully small that my back thanked me for not lugging around a 5D MK III and all the lenses...
That said, I'm soon moving to a Fuji. Had the 100 and 100S, and I miss them a ton. Selling my m4/3 kit to get an X-S20!
That's great to hear, yeah sure for an all rounder the X-S20 is a solid choice 👍
I use a GX-1 with three prime lenses. Perfect for street photography! It is easily concealed and a good backup to my Nikons.
That's great to hear, thanks for sharing!
Hi do you recomend the lumix gx80 to street? Is it small? What you recomend? Thanks
Your UA-cam channel is really cool, it's relaxing experience to watch your video
Thanks for sharing! I appreciate it!
Great video, the Olympus OMD series has the color creator mode and along with the WB bias you can make some interesting jpeg recipes!
Thank you! Yes they do, specifically the Pen F I hear great things about but haven't tried yet
Is it possible with e-m10 ii ?
@@andreatilli6227 the color creator is not as powerful as the one on the PEN F but yes you can do many recipes. If you use the Olympus workspace on a pc you can test it without the camera and then reproduce the recipe on it. Here are a few examples ua-cam.com/video/nh-9WLMRcUs/v-deo.html
Honestly, I've heard from youtubers and people online that micro four thirds is looked down upon by "proper photographers" but I've honestly never actually found that in person. They're usually very open to the fact that for street and some wildlife photography, a small camera and small kit is exactly what you want. When I worked for a music magazine, I knew press photographers we used who carried M43 kit for jobs (alongside others, obviously). I've never seen examples of micro four thirds snobbery outside of the online space. I do think it's a thing, but not as much as people think.
I've noticed the same and tend to believe it's a character trait that appears generally. Some of the tech podcasters I listen to are using the same rhetoric, always prefacing sentences with 'people have been saying', 'there's been quite a stir' and so on. I don't think it's a contrary-to-popular-belief thing, it's more like a pattern and as such can be a bit unnerving when repeated.
If I recall correctly IBIS was lauched first by Konica/Minolta (later bought by Sony) and then Pentax but both where DSLR cameras. Olympus made the first mirrorless with IBIS a few years latter (E-510). But for a long time Pentax IBIS was the most versatile.
Some of my pictures I like the most are those I took with an Olympus E-PL9 and a Meike 35mm manual lens (MFT mount). I bought the camera used and the lens brandnew and the package had cost me way below 400 Euros.
I own plenty of MFT lenses since I do video stuff and I have a bunch of MFT cameras that can do live streaming well (e.g., multiple Z Cam E2C units). It very much depends on what you want and need and what how much you can spend. Another "secret" is the Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 60mm F/2.8 Macro which is available used for below 400€ and makes a very nice portrait lens. Recently I even did decent snapshots from a live concert with it using the E-PL9. Both the 60mm Olympus as well as the Meike 35mm will allow for the shallow depth of field many photographers love and that smart phone cameras only can do/fake by image processing.
When compared to professional full frame photography options, there's not many camera+lense combinations in the MFT domain that can compete. But not everybody can spend so much money.
I still use my Lumix G1 I've had since new yonks ago. Use converters and shoot all my old manual glass from Sigma/Canon/Pentax/Practika/Olympus. Amazing camera and still great images. I've other cameras but the G1 is still my fave.
I enjoy the old cameras of the past videos. I have a new video topic for you. Cameras with built-in GPS. I think they are the best cameras for traveling. I once had a job where I traveled extensively. I was not keeping my pictures files up to date. I opened those pictures up with Google Maps, and it showed me exactly where I was located.
That's an interesting feature to be interested in, I've had cameras that featured it but not often paid much attention - but I guess that really is a useful feature when you put it that way - thanks for sharing!
Fun factor really is a thing. I had a low resolution Olympus years ago which was fun and good color if poor resolution. The Fuji was a bit cool bordering on cyan, and pretty good to use. The couple of Canon cameras next were a joy to use if limited. But the Sony APS-C system on the other hand is serious work to use. I'd rather have a Pentax K1000 and use 400 speed Tmax. The menu system is byzantine. Then there's the color balance where you really have to dig through the menus to get somewhere. You won't use a camera if it isn't fun to use and that's why phone cameras have gained real marketshare.
Completely agree although I don't find phone cameras fun 😅
The reasons why phone cameras took off so much were mainly because they shoot good-enough pictures in most everyday situations, are capable of taking decent videos and are excellent at sharing both photos and videos with one click.
@@EricMustardman what's the best camera? The one you have with you 😁
Great giveaway program!
Thank you!
Ive own a olympus em10 mark 1 and it is as you said a great value if you can find one. However I traded it in with some more equipment for a used g85 because I needed a decent video camera at the time.
That's good to hear! Hope the G85 is doing well
Hi. Wich ones of the cheapest m4/3 are good for video? I have Lumix GH6 and i need a second cheap body to assist me. Thanks.
I enjoyed this video!
That's great to hear!
I just switched to Panasonic last year and they are great models. Sure the difference are noticeable but not everyone is going to be not picking but I love my lumix cameras
That's great to hear
I am using both, full-frame and M43 cameras - and I am loving both formats. For casual shooting and street photography I prefer my Olympus and Panasonic M43 cameras. Otherwise my Sony full-frame cameras are great. The M43 format is small in size (at least with older cameras) and nowadays small in price. I bought the Panasonic G7 for its video capabilities but for photography I would prefer the GX7 due to its smaller size. Seen from the color perspectives my Olympus cameras are much nicer than the G7. My favorite is the Olympus E-P3. This camera has a fantastic rendering although it has only 12MB resolution. Highly recommended.
The Lumix G85, GH4, and GH5 are excellent for videography. They give you all sorts of professional video features which Canon only include in their high-end cinema cameras.
I still own both panasonic and olympus camera and lenses from 14, 15mm, 45mm prime to 12-60, , 45-150, 100-300mm zoom
M43 is a fun and afforable lightweight camera system :)
That's great to hear!
Hi George, great video, I recently bought a lumix gf5 with a gds-35 tv lens, 1.7 aperture, it is totally manual, I would like some advice to have the best sharpness when focusing with that lens. Greetings
I don't have experience with that set up, would stop down the aperture and nail your focus!
I’m looking for a edc “pocket” camera. I’m looking at the LUMIX GX1 or Sony NEX-5R, thoughts?
Had an Oly em10 mark 3 but got stupid and wanted an apsc canon. No ibis made it annoying so i went to the Lumix GX8 and its a perfect camera for street. Super fast autofocus paired with the lumix 25m f1.7 and the ibis make it a dream to use. I love the m43 size as well
Yes I always look at the GX7 or GX8, probably the cameras I've considered the most frequently, but feels almost too similar to some sony designs that I never make the purchase!
@@GeorgeHolden yeah I see the resemblance. But i tell you, the gx8 is a super comfortable, super snappy and well thought out camera and if you can snag one sub 450, its a bargain.
I picked up an E-PL1 with a 40-150 for around $100 and was impressed with SOC pictures and the colors from the camera considering its age and the 12mp sensor. Later I found an E-M10 Mk I for $125 with a 14-42. I also recently picked up an E-M1 Mk I. I sold the E-PL1 with the 14-42 and have bought a 45mm f1.8, a 70-300, have a sigma 16mm f1.4 on the way, and also have an adapter to use my Pentax K-mount lenses. Some of the best pictures I have gotten have been with these, so much so that I sold my Nikon D5300. While I could get technically better and higher resolution photos with the Nikon, it could take so long editing the RAW images to make a good image from it, while I can quickly edit the RAW images out of the Olympus cameras in OM Workspace with much more reliable results. Someday I plan to get a used E-M1 Mk III or OM1.
That's great to hear!
I remember back in the day when I took some picture in B/W, and a friend of mine who is a professional photographer, looked at them and he said these is very good pictures and I see that you have got you a new Leica camera, but they were only taken with a tiny Olympus EPL5 with a kit lens from 2012 :)
That's great to hear!
I bought *LX100* mostly for video (for my family) - but for video it appeared just bad: Dyn.Range is poor, autofocus is bad. But I just love it for photo and began shooting photos more with it. Beautiful controls, amazing zoom range, just lovely colors in raw.
I bought Sony a7c expecting to fully subtitute my LX100. It does for video, but I just can't bare A7c for photo, always prefer LX100.
Thank you for your video, I mostly agree with your statments! _2:14__ is not really fair as panasonic has small max aperture. Sony's has rather small 28-60 lens_
Thanks for sharing!
What evf was on the gx1 can it be used on the gx 3? Was the Olympus version that is compatible to lumjx?
I bought a gf2 with a 14mm for 40 euros. I hold it in my palm in full auto mode, shooting with the thumb without even looking at the screen. Great fun, interesting pictures. And my grandchildren, who is 4, loves it and he is getting good at framing. I have the em1 mark one. Great with silent mode and wifi for spy like street photography. And the kit zoom is more than decent. Still i prefer film photography as i am lucky enough to have access to a darkroom at my university and having fun with TLRs and foldings.
That's great to hear, thanks for sharing!
IBIS was introduced by Minolta on the small sensor Dimage A1 - and later on the APS-C sensor Dynax 7D and even the full frame Sony A900, which would have been a Minolta Dynax 9D, if the brand had survived as a camera manufacturer.
This is true, a friend pointed this out to me too!
How would you compare with a a6000 is it worth switching?
I really want to try to get into photography, and should I just go with a simpler compact cameras? I don't understand anything about lenses and I really don't want to get into the rabbit hole of lenses so,, do you think its good enough for learning what photography is about??
My two Canon SX260HS cameras a good general purpose cameras, to complement my Nikon DSLRs. I also have a Nikon P310 P&S - whose form factor I love. All were bought used.
I have been into more than a couple of graduation parties from friends where "Professional cameras" where prohibited And I always gladly strolled in with my GX85 and pancake 20mm 1.7 lens in those parties and had great low light pictures.
Thanks for sharing!
I bought a G85 as a streaming camera, but found I love shooting on it.
Thanks for sharing!
Nicest compact I ever had Nikon P7700 in 2012. Best body in hand I've had, flippy screen.
Good zoom. Could be used full auto to full manual. Shot raw *but no NEF raw.
I thought it would be an improvement of my older OLY 4/3 DSLR.
But then I learned about sensor size, and this had 1/1.7" 12mp sensor.
Fussy menu system.
I put it aside, used less often though carrying it was a pleasure. Still have, but it's creaky to extend lens and slow start up and fuss to set way I like.
Cool!
I would love nothing more than getting a nice used micro 4/3 and lens for everyday carry in my pocket, but youtube is saturated with BS That I have no idea what 2 or 3 to narrow my choice to. I really need a small decent quality inconspicuous camera for when I'm out on the streets so what is your opinion on what 3 to consider
I can't speak for every camera, but I agree it's hard to measure between MFT cameras online. Personally I think the Olympus OM D E M10 mki is a fantastic camera as I mention in this video and very affordable - you can get the newer models but to be honest the mark i was amazing for me
Thanks for the video.
For holidays and street/general photography I now use the Lumix GX9 (20.3 Mp) which I shoot in raw, with the 12 to 32mm Lumix lens, a 35 to 100mm Lumix lens, and the fantastic 15mm f1.7 Leica/Lumix lens. This combo fits into a small carry bag and does everything that I need. I have spent decades as a Canon SLR user and still retain all my Canon kit for wildlife and sport. However it is a joy to venture out with my lightweight Lumix kit and did so recently at a wedding, with great results.
That's great to hear, glad you're getting use out of your cameras!
What a awesome channel ngl got me into m43 omd10 ii and I got it with a kit lens for £70 what a absolute beast of a camera
That's awesome to hear! Glad you got a good deal on the mark ii!
Lots of people buy older m43s cameras, they are among the easiest to sell quickly on EBay. My GX85 and EM10 both recently sold in one day. Even the ancient GX1 still sells well. I think the premise of the video just reinforces a somewhat dodgy notion, that m43 is dead, when in fact it still has a huge following.
The used market is sold and re sold and so on, however Lumix and Olympus (OM-System) aren't developing much for the future due to lack of demand
@@GeorgeHolden Panasonic is set to release the G9II, Olympus just released the amazing OM-1 and OM-5 late last year but who knows. I loathe smartphones and I’ll never stop buying film and digital cameras of all formats.
@@marike1100 besides the G9ii there isn't much new tech coming in, for now it looks to be rehashing the old Olympus models under the new name - I do hope they continue to push as I'd love to try newer bodies