I have experience of a 800 km trip, 400 km in one stretch, driving it both with my ICE-car and with my Ioniq. With the electic car the trip is one hour longer in one direction, but after arriving at home I'm less exhausted after driving the Ioniq. I sopose the pauses your're forced to do when charging contribute to that feeling. Less noise me be another factor. PS. The video was very informative. Thank you!
Just returned from a 900 km drive in one evening/night through Denmark/Germany. Really enjoyed the Autobahn/charging experience at night. Kids slept in the back seat.
@@evdabbler without necessarily driving “at night”, I found taking off at around 05:30 to be really good, with first break ending up being at breakfast time (7:30-08:00).
@@evdabbler Yeah, it was definitely an experiment, and my wife was very concerned about the plan. We went for it anyway since we (a) had to drive home on a weekday when the Autobahn is full of trucks, and (b) I was sure the charging stations would be pretty full during the day. What definitely helped was having to do the frequent stops with the Ioniq classic, and using them for getting some fresh air and stretching, or possibly power-napping if you're into that. I still felt pretty rested towards the end of the trip at 4 in the morning. It also helped that it was a familiar route that we have driven several times now. Also got lucky with the moon! It was nearly full and literally lit us the way home :)
I just pulled the numbers out of ABRP and tinkered with them in a spread sheet. Here's what I got: Total distance: 963 km Total time: 13 hours Average speed: 94 km/h Total charged: 155 kWh kWh/100 km: 16.1 I did a lot of 130-150 km/h on the AB which drove up the consumption. Driving around in Hamburg for a bit slowed down the avg speed, plus some AB construction work.
@@tfnico and for that matter at 74km/h including stops you achieved close to the practical limit given the car efficiency and charging speed. Thanks for sharing!
My EV odyssey has started. I picked up my 2016 ioniq from Cwmbran in Wales and drove it back to Sheffield. Piece of gateau! One 20 minute stop, charged at 65kw. Home with 13 miles to spare. Averaged 5.8 mpkwh. I'm very pleased. I have an issue with the granny plug not releasing though, so I'm glad I watched your video on using the emergency cable release. That's it! Thanks for your help and I will continue to watch your channel with interest. Btw, my car has done 85k miles, and range was showing 138 miles this morning after granny charge. What battery degradation?
On degradation say the GOM calibrated on 5.5-5.8mpkwh to give you 138 miles, for 26.5kWh net when new, looking at 5% to 10% degradation.you ll need a clean run to get more precision. Looks good either way given mileage
Longest trip i've done so far with my ioniq was 600km in one day which went surprisingly well with 4 stops of about 20 minutes each. If i decide to go on holiday to France with this car (which i probably will next year) i might consider driving at night to avoid charging queues.
Or if you can, pick those with 12 or more connectors. It may not be possible though for all the stops. For broad adoption, we can't expect everyone to drive at night!
In October 2020 I drove from Freiburg im Breisgau to Folkestone in my Ioniq via Reims, - 18 hours relying on a very very patchy supercharging network. Made it to the train at Calais with 5 minutes to spare. I wonder how much easier it would be to do it today?
I think you'd find it much easier at least for the France part. I believe most users would tell you the motorway service stations have been completely overhauled in the last 18 months - with a turning point around last Christmas.
I am well overdue sharing all final stats including the battery temperature curve over the journey. In short the battrry does hit the 50c mark after a few charges, meaning the 65kW power will reduce before 80% battery capacity. But not by much, this means adding maybe a minute or two to the charging process, not very visible unless you measure.
@@evdabbler Thanks. I've been going through all your videos. Having myself an Ioniq just like yours, I'm finding this quite interesting. Your charging infrastructure in Europe is so much better than here in Canada.
I have just checked, and you had a few Power dot and Lidl rapid chargers in Langres, 11 miles away. At 4-5 miles/kWh you could have made it just about with 10% SoC 😂
Soon most EVs will have 250 mile range, so you will just charge up at home overnight, and the range will be more than enough for most journeys without stopping.
We're pretty much there already, if you look at 25 vehicles Bjorn Nyland tested on 'Sunday Driving' (which is not that far from UK driving conditions as between traffic, lack of motorways and speed restrictions it's often hard to move quickly through the UK), all except the Ioniq 28 achieved 260 miles or more. Admittedly, the list is shorter for full-on European motorway speed but plenty of choice at >200 miles.
I just realised it was 'Zero Tailpipe' that did the charge cable release video. Apologies.
I have experience of a 800 km trip, 400 km in one stretch, driving it both with my ICE-car and with my Ioniq. With the electic car the trip is one hour longer in one direction, but after arriving at home I'm less exhausted after driving the Ioniq. I sopose the pauses your're forced to do when charging contribute to that feeling. Less noise me be another factor.
PS. The video was very informative. Thank you!
Thanks and agreed on being less tiring.
Just returned from a 900 km drive in one evening/night through Denmark/Germany. Really enjoyed the Autobahn/charging experience at night. Kids slept in the back seat.
Like in the 'olden days' when there was no AC and families drove at night. Sounds good if you re not too tired
@@evdabbler without necessarily driving “at night”, I found taking off at around 05:30 to be really good, with first break ending up being at breakfast time (7:30-08:00).
@@evdabbler Yeah, it was definitely an experiment, and my wife was very concerned about the plan. We went for it anyway since we (a) had to drive home on a weekday when the Autobahn is full of trucks, and (b) I was sure the charging stations would be pretty full during the day.
What definitely helped was having to do the frequent stops with the Ioniq classic, and using them for getting some fresh air and stretching, or possibly power-napping if you're into that. I still felt pretty rested towards the end of the trip at 4 in the morning.
It also helped that it was a familiar route that we have driven several times now. Also got lucky with the moon! It was nearly full and literally lit us the way home :)
I just pulled the numbers out of ABRP and tinkered with them in a spread sheet. Here's what I got:
Total distance: 963 km
Total time: 13 hours
Average speed: 94 km/h
Total charged: 155 kWh
kWh/100 km: 16.1
I did a lot of 130-150 km/h on the AB which drove up the consumption. Driving around in Hamburg for a bit slowed down the avg speed, plus some AB construction work.
@@tfnico and for that matter at 74km/h including stops you achieved close to the practical limit given the car efficiency and charging speed. Thanks for sharing!
Great video. 👍😎
Good video, I like when you show your data in tables! Voice and music are also geat!
Great to hear. Thanks for the feedback!
Last part of the video is beautiful. 😍
My EV odyssey has started. I picked up my 2016 ioniq from Cwmbran in Wales and drove it back to Sheffield. Piece of gateau! One 20 minute stop, charged at 65kw. Home with 13 miles to spare. Averaged 5.8 mpkwh. I'm very pleased. I have an issue with the granny plug not releasing though, so I'm glad I watched your video on using the emergency cable release. That's it! Thanks for your help and I will continue to watch your channel with interest. Btw, my car has done 85k miles, and range was showing 138 miles this morning after granny charge. What battery degradation?
On degradation say the GOM calibrated on 5.5-5.8mpkwh to give you 138 miles, for 26.5kWh net when new, looking at 5% to 10% degradation.you ll need a clean run to get more precision. Looks good either way given mileage
2:50 - it's always the same, meal times at service areas = Busy chargers.
I do my best to avoid them for charging at those times.
Yes it's the smart thing to do if it can be avoided.
Very useful and informative. Many thanks
Thank you!
Longest trip i've done so far with my ioniq was 600km in one day which went surprisingly well with 4 stops of about 20 minutes each. If i decide to go on holiday to France with this car (which i probably will next year) i might consider driving at night to avoid charging queues.
Or if you can, pick those with 12 or more connectors. It may not be possible though for all the stops. For broad adoption, we can't expect everyone to drive at night!
Including breaks and stops in calculations of average speed is definitely not good for mental health 😂
Real life though, for all vehicle types.
In October 2020 I drove from Freiburg im Breisgau to Folkestone in my Ioniq via Reims, - 18 hours relying on a very very patchy supercharging network. Made it to the train at Calais with 5 minutes to spare. I wonder how much easier it would be to do it today?
I think you'd find it much easier at least for the France part. I believe most users would tell you the motorway service stations have been completely overhauled in the last 18 months - with a turning point around last Christmas.
We really need booking systems for rapid chargers
What temp do you reckon is alright on the AC when it was 32deg outside?
Maybe 18 in Eco, more in Normal.
Did you have any issues with the battery overheating with all these nonstop rapid charges?
I am well overdue sharing all final stats including the battery temperature curve over the journey. In short the battrry does hit the 50c mark after a few charges, meaning the 65kW power will reduce before 80% battery capacity. But not by much, this means adding maybe a minute or two to the charging process, not very visible unless you measure.
Also you may want to check out ua-cam.com/video/PO03assXAD8/v-deo.html
@@evdabbler Thanks. I've been going through all your videos. Having myself an Ioniq just like yours, I'm finding this quite interesting. Your charging infrastructure in Europe is so much better than here in Canada.
I have just checked, and you had a few Power dot and Lidl rapid chargers in Langres, 11 miles away. At 4-5 miles/kWh you could have made it just about with 10% SoC 😂
Apart from anything else, at 15% there's only 2.7kWh left in the battery. Not a good time to gamble.
With those queues it would be fair to unplug right after 80% btw, unless you urgently need the extra range.
The extra 10% were needed here. It s still a shorter charge than most other cars.
Soon most EVs will have 250 mile range, so you will just charge up at home overnight, and the range will be more than enough for most journeys without stopping.
We're pretty much there already, if you look at 25 vehicles Bjorn Nyland tested on 'Sunday Driving' (which is not that far from UK driving conditions as between traffic, lack of motorways and speed restrictions it's often hard to move quickly through the UK), all except the Ioniq 28 achieved 260 miles or more. Admittedly, the list is shorter for full-on European motorway speed but plenty of choice at >200 miles.