This also draws a pretty dope reference to the macrocosm. You have Luffy's flame representing Heaven, Sanji's flame representing the Earth, and Zoro's flame representing Hell.
True and just look at the color of Mihawk´s slash attacks: Green. However, since there isn´t a ton of proof as of right now to the supposed "connections between different types of flames" in One Piece, I will only consider this a coincidence.
If so she’d can be called the sky witch since she already controls the weather, having the mother flame which would represent the sun would be cool especially if Zeus can possess it
I think it's worth mentioning that Sanji never used Diable or Ifrit Jambe in front of Vegapunk or against the Gorosei. Tthe same arc where the Mother Flame is a pivotal part of the plot. It's possible that Oda is keeping Sanji from using his flame powers in the presence of characters who has knowledge of the Mother Flame, which could hint that there might be a connection between the Mother Flame and Sanji fire ability.
You need to make a video comparing Sanjis spiraling eyebrows to luffys when he's awakened. I think Sanjis genetics make him look like an awakened fruit user. Basically a human devil fruit
KOL KOL I JUST SAW A THEORY ABOUT THE ELDERS AND IMU BEING UN JOYBOYS CREW AND I HAD AN EPIPHANY. WHAT IF THE ELDERS ALONG WITH ZUNESHA BETRAYED JOYBOY AND HE CURSED THEM. IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THE IMMORTALITY 😭🙏
You’re on to ‘selling Luffy short’ (lol screen shot btw- 1st 3rdGear use) white fire burns hotter irl, higher than 1550° the brighter the white the hotter the fire 🔥! Keep it 💯 KOL
Acrually i beleive its more like LUFFY--HEAVENLY FIRE ZORO-- HELLFIRE SANJI--- FOXFIRE. and I believe sanji is foxfire because Oda already told us Sanji was supposed be named Naruto. And Naruto originally was supposed to be about a Ninja Chef. Another subtle foreshadowing is Zoro name literally meaning Fox. Sanjis eyebrows looking like the Fox from the Fake Strawhats. And the color of their fire is a slight depiction as well. Luffy's red rock is a Heavenly fire. Zoro when he uses enma has green flames like Hellfire. And Sanji changing color from red to blue flame reminds me of Foxfire and how usually in anime has been depicted as blue colored.
It would also be nice if we got more lore about other realm such as hell. I'm guessing there are different hells. The one Brook draws his power from is probably the cold hell from Buddhism, while Zoro's hell flames are from the traditional christian hell.
the thing with the suits, is that sanjis brothers wore those suits 24/7, sanji never got his really, and hes never wore it, if he didnt destroy it, im sure he'd be able to be invisible too
Sanji reminds me of the gorosei and their powers. Royalty and the gorosei didn’t get devil fruits but demons in their text boxes but act just like a mythical zoan. And we have seen Sanji turn into an actual devil during Thriller Bark during a gag. Oda uses gags are foreshadowing too.
I am so glad you mentioned that we aren't sure Zorro's King of Hell is CoC. It always bugs me that the whole fandom thinks it's CoC for sure. It might be but it may also be something different.
Man this theory makes me really want to know the origins of devil fruits there like so many different possibilities as to what they are but were starting to get close to the real answer.
One of the T3 guys had a theory of how imus fruit is connected to blackbeards fruit and i made a thread 2 years ago expalining how the flame fruit is connected to the NIKA ability which is coming to be true as joy boy was different from nika.
When it comes to Luffy's fire attacks it's inspired by Ace, Luffy's fruit was always imagination with a side effect of rubber, he imagined himself able to use Aces flames and so he was
i think the den den mushi is inside the robot giant and that Imu or just Saturn himself will try mess up with the robot giant and the robot giant which is fueled by a mother flame will sacrifice himself by exploding and take saturn down along with a dramatic ending of him opening his eyes wide before the boom 💥. Now i think if Imu will tell to Saturn to sacrifice himself which would be hard thing for other gorosei to swallow it may trigger Ju peter even further to betray Imu, i saw beautiful theory of suggesting the gorosei were part of joyboy crew because Oda names usually the crew members with matching meanings like gold roger, silvers Rayleigh, scopper coban, then Kaido have jack, queen, king and doflamingo being the Joker, also dofi had i think his crew with similar name meaning? and Luffy crew having numeric meaning being Luffy being 56, 56 for gomu gomu etc. And then joyboy had his crew named after planets, and that Ju Peter liked joyboy and was waiting for revenge all these 800 years like how Denjiro being the opposite side of coin of him
What if Zoro is just straight up cursed from Kuina's death and their promise and that is why he couldn't die? I mean swords can become cursed in One Piece, I don't see why people can't, maybe it is also why he has a terrible sense of direction?
Red + Green + Blue = White. Luffy and his 2 wings = Nika Jesus. The Flames metaphor is all about the Empyrean which lies on top of the heavenly spheres. Alas, the Kingdom of the Gods on top of the Red Line where Marijois is now. Hence the microcosm of Skypea "Light the fire of Shandora!"
I think all the different flame abilities are connected in some way to the mother flame,perhaps the mother flame is the fire of the human soul,vitae,vitalflame and those with strong souls can to an extent wield this soulfire,i think this also extends to the Mera-Mera no mi,since it was so highly sought after because its awakening allows the wielder to produce atomic heat,thusly creating mother flame,and this also explains Lunarian powers and possibly even the Mink's electro,since electricity is produced by heat...
Kol gonna downplay mihawk and his green fire energy that he uses casually and easily The somewhat same green fire energy zoro seems to barely understand and barely grasped the basics of
As you said, what can create the Undying Flame, if the Mother Flame itself already made from Nuclear Fusion by Vegapunk? I have an interesting opinion after watching your video. I don't think it's just a coincidence that Luffy's brothers, Ace and Sabo, are Flame Fruit user back to back. So my guess is the relation between Flame Fruit and Sun God Fruit is deeper than we thought, especially in their fruit creation. Idk about other fruits as the product created by flame, such as magma, heat, and smoke fruit (including non-canon Smelt and Hot fruit), but Phoenix Fruit is probably related with Sun God just like Flame Fruit. Also Explosion, Light, and Lightning doesn't necessarily included here. Now, what Vegapunk can do to create a better Mother Flame. Maybe the problem is not the method, but the core should be created by the Flame Fruit himself, and how to start it? Awakening. Magma surpass regular fire, but fire itself has levels (limitless temperature), to the point that it can surpass Lightning. Logia awakening can create "eternal" condition to the environment, like Punk Hazard, Raijin Island, and probably Enies Lobby which has no night time. We don't know if Mother Flame is Eternal, but I would guess not. But if Undying Flame is Eternal, then only awakening df can achieve it. Maybe you need Sabo and Luffy work together to make an actual Undying Flame, and Marco's Phoenix ability to keep Luffy, the Sun God vessel, alive by healing his body in the process. After re-reading it, this might be a stretch and dumb theory😂
The idea that the Pirate King is the person with the power of charisma to move the masses and reshape the world is exactly what we see with Roger and what we're seeing with Luffy, Buggy and Teach. These three have a charismatic appeal that borders religion.
If sanji’s fire powers comes from sora in some sort of way it’ll kinda connect to the mother flame due to airs being sanji’s mother and him having fire powers yk I’m saying “mother flame”
That was originally Oda's explanation in pre-timeskip but Sanji now just makes flames. He doesn't need to move anymore. Oda now says it comes from his emotions/passion. @parmar__12
I wasn't sure what to think of zoro and fire but I think u r on to something also on that note mihawks attacks are also green and that made me think about zoro claiming shawk is more human than the real deal
I'm just gonna throw it out there, but I believe Luffy creates the mother flame, I have a theory that we have only seen Luffy transform at night or during the moon , giving him that white lunatic version of the sun god. I believe his true form will be seen during sunlight and will utilize flames of the sun, since the Nika form fuels the giant robot as does the mother flame, the mother flame comes from the Nika power
I think you’re focusing on the idea of the Sun god being literal. I think Nika is more of a symbolic god with it representing freedom and being unbound.
Luffy did legit eat a laser…So I’m sure he could generate whatever plasma he likes as he has been doing it IMO but Luffy is an idiot and needs his abilities explained to him
Nika is locked away in heaven by the sounds of it and he was locked away but gave the world devil fruits. Like joy boy the devil fruit Witch luffy is now has the power of nika. He will be unlocked from the heaven again witch imu locked nika away 800 hours ago
This also draws a pretty dope reference to the macrocosm. You have Luffy's flame representing Heaven, Sanji's flame representing the Earth, and Zoro's flame representing Hell.
Mihawk has green attacks seen during Marineford against Luffy but he can control them so is that really green flame?
Sanji literally has just fire
@@parmar__12fire of hell entity 'ifrit', O zoro fanboy.
@@Marshall_D_preach it's literally like red hawk lol 😂
@@Marshall_D_preach fire of hell is zoro's flames
Related to Zoro, King missed one thing...
What color are Mihawk's candle flames when we first meet him back at Baratie? GREEN.
True and just look at the color of Mihawk´s slash attacks: Green. However, since there isn´t a ton of proof as of right now to the supposed "connections between different types of flames" in One Piece, I will only consider this a coincidence.
Green vs Green slashes, that'd look sick🥵
Zoro did burn the corpse of Ruma back in Thriller bark, but people assumed that was just for effect.
Blue fire
Imagine how OP Nami would be if she integrated Mother Flame into her Sorcery Clima-Tact.
That's Oda's job, she is still one of the weakest pirates.
If so she’d can be called the sky witch since she already controls the weather, having the mother flame which would represent the sun would be cool especially if Zeus can possess it
Nami endgame will be Big Mom x1000
Luffy will be eating that Mother flame 🔥
Big Mom Give soul to The Motherflame Yooooooo
I think it's worth mentioning that Sanji never used Diable or Ifrit Jambe in front of Vegapunk or against the Gorosei.
Tthe same arc where the Mother Flame is a pivotal part of the plot. It's possible that Oda is keeping Sanji from using his flame powers in the presence of characters who has knowledge of the Mother Flame, which could hint that there might be a connection between the Mother Flame and Sanji fire ability.
You need to make a video comparing Sanjis spiraling eyebrows to luffys when he's awakened. I think Sanjis genetics make him look like an awakened fruit user. Basically a human devil fruit
yoooo that could be why he's so emotionally passionate
St. Saturn I think mentioned giving kids devil fruit abilities without having to eat them.
Yoo doesn't that make all the germa nerds God tier now 😂😂😂
@@parmar__12 nah cause only Sanji has free will and access to haki.
@@supasage8131 but their brows are same ?
If eyebrows had anything to do with anything then they all special
Even hsi sister has will
Yo that Sanji cross fire left a scar that looked like the scar/tattoo on Monkey D Dragon's face
Mother flame is probably white/silver like luffys hair
The Sun is white not orange
@@HapPawherethat’s literally what the comment is implying
With Sanji's flame turning blue is in line with star teory since the blue stars are the hottest
Bro popped up at the right time
One piece: having fruits that can literally make anything
Lilyth: if only we'd have some energy 🙃😑😐🤨🤕
“ I’ve done a video on this 2 years ago , in the past “
Ahh yes as opposed too 2 years ago in the future
Kols agenda transcends time
@@g3mkn1ght60 Amen 😂🫡
There’s also a bunch of no name pirates that use fire, heat from kids crew, some randos on whitebeards crew, probably a few more
Ace really would’ve been broken if he reached his peak
ace;s fire is normal orange fire
@@HapPawherethat’s why he said ace should reach his peak so strong
Oda been lurking in the KoL chat, we know this! Start talking right to him Kol!
u r right its me oda
KOL KOL I JUST SAW A THEORY ABOUT THE ELDERS AND IMU BEING UN JOYBOYS CREW AND I HAD AN EPIPHANY. WHAT IF THE ELDERS ALONG WITH ZUNESHA BETRAYED JOYBOY AND HE CURSED THEM. IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THE IMMORTALITY 😭🙏
You’re on to ‘selling Luffy short’ (lol screen shot btw- 1st 3rdGear use) white fire burns hotter irl, higher than 1550° the brighter the white the hotter the fire 🔥! Keep it 💯 KOL
Imagine having big moms devil fruit and using on the mother flame to create a homie.
1:46 Luffy eating the mother flame is a wild theory did the tier 3s cook that up
Right that would be so cool 🥵
waste imo
@@WillisAmak Vegapunk can make new one
I feel like the Grim Reaper was Emma personified accepting zoro as it’s master
Zoro has blue flame feats going back to thriller bark
no he doesn't
didn't he cut ryuma with blue fire?@@kingmadridi8125
These the type of videos that I love to consume as a fan of the series
I think reason they say luffy is going to eat the mother flame is because they believe it will lend to some sort of mastery of gear 5 as well 15:04
Acrually i beleive its more like
LUFFY--HEAVENLY FIRE
ZORO-- HELLFIRE
SANJI--- FOXFIRE.
and I believe sanji is foxfire because Oda already told us Sanji was supposed be named Naruto. And Naruto originally was supposed to be about a Ninja Chef. Another subtle foreshadowing is Zoro name literally meaning Fox. Sanjis eyebrows looking like the Fox from the Fake Strawhats. And the color of their fire is a slight depiction as well. Luffy's red rock is a Heavenly fire. Zoro when he uses enma has green flames like Hellfire. And Sanji changing color from red to blue flame reminds me of Foxfire and how usually in anime has been depicted as blue colored.
Just say you dont like sanji
@@MrYounis26 false 🤦🏾♂️. There would be no one piece if there was no sanji
@@LycanDGV so you got heavenly and hell fire for luffy and zoro.... then in comes fox fire for sanji lmao
One Piece is Bringing the Fire of Fury this Final Saga
It would also be nice if we got more lore about other realm such as hell. I'm guessing there are different hells. The one Brook draws his power from is probably the cold hell from Buddhism, while Zoro's hell flames are from the traditional christian hell.
Brooks could also be the Norse Hel
ngl luffy eating mother flame and getting a buff from it sounds cool af and it sounds like something he would do
Let him cook…
These Ramen Noodles 😂😂😂
the thing with the suits, is that sanjis brothers wore those suits 24/7, sanji never got his really, and hes never wore it, if he didnt destroy it, im sure he'd be able to be invisible too
Sanji reminds me of the gorosei and their powers. Royalty and the gorosei didn’t get devil fruits but demons in their text boxes but act just like a mythical zoan. And we have seen Sanji turn into an actual devil during Thriller Bark during a gag. Oda uses gags are foreshadowing too.
I am so glad you mentioned that we aren't sure Zorro's King of Hell is CoC. It always bugs me that the whole fandom thinks it's CoC for sure. It might be but it may also be something different.
I also feel like what's going to happen is sanji gonna snap and zoro with flame cut gonna have to do something.
I yell out “ifrit jamble” randomly throughout the day and my leg catches on fire
Man this theory makes me really want to know the origins of devil fruits there like so many different possibilities as to what they are but were starting to get close to the real answer.
One of the T3 guys had a theory of how imus fruit is connected to blackbeards fruit and i made a thread 2 years ago expalining how the flame fruit is connected to the NIKA ability which is coming to be true as joy boy was different from nika.
joyboy- sun's fire
zoro- fire of hell
sanji- incinerator bbq grill
sanji - malevolent kitchen
Sanji - Fire of George Foreman
I still reckon mother flame is born of the ships manifestation like the Sunny's spirit
New idea.... eternal flame = soul. Mother flame = the soul of the sea (mother nature)
When it comes to Luffy's fire attacks it's inspired by Ace, Luffy's fruit was always imagination with a side effect of rubber, he imagined himself able to use Aces flames and so he was
i think the den den mushi is inside the robot giant and that Imu or just Saturn himself will try mess up with the robot giant and the robot giant which is fueled by a mother flame will sacrifice himself by exploding and take saturn down along with a dramatic ending of him opening his eyes wide before the boom 💥. Now i think if Imu will tell to Saturn to sacrifice himself which would be hard thing for other gorosei to swallow it may trigger Ju peter even further to betray Imu, i saw beautiful theory of suggesting the gorosei were part of joyboy crew because Oda names usually the crew members with matching meanings like gold roger, silvers Rayleigh, scopper coban, then Kaido have jack, queen, king and doflamingo being the Joker, also dofi had i think his crew with similar name meaning? and Luffy crew having numeric meaning being Luffy being 56, 56 for gomu gomu etc. And then joyboy had his crew named after planets, and that Ju Peter liked joyboy and was waiting for revenge all these 800 years like how Denjiro being the opposite side of coin of him
What if Zoro is just straight up cursed from Kuina's death and their promise and that is why he couldn't die? I mean swords can become cursed in One Piece, I don't see why people can't, maybe it is also why he has a terrible sense of direction?
Red + Green + Blue = White. Luffy and his 2 wings = Nika Jesus. The Flames metaphor is all about the Empyrean which lies on top of the heavenly spheres. Alas, the Kingdom of the Gods on top of the Red Line where Marijois is now. Hence the microcosm of Skypea "Light the fire of Shandora!"
Luffy is on that Arthur wacky ish.
I think all the different flame abilities are connected in some way to the mother flame,perhaps the mother flame is the fire of the human soul,vitae,vitalflame and those with strong souls can to an extent wield this soulfire,i think this also extends to the Mera-Mera no mi,since it was so highly sought after because its awakening allows the wielder to produce atomic heat,thusly creating mother flame,and this also explains Lunarian powers and possibly even the Mink's electro,since electricity is produced by heat...
Kol gonna downplay mihawk and his green fire energy that he uses casually and easily
The somewhat same green fire energy zoro seems to barely understand and barely grasped the basics of
Keep up the awesome work and videos KOL love the video
Give Franky the mother flame and he can BECOME Pluton
This would be so fire if it comes true.
🤏🏾
I wonder if certain characters that do fire attacks are probably part lunarian.
As you said, what can create the Undying Flame, if the Mother Flame itself already made from Nuclear Fusion by Vegapunk?
I have an interesting opinion after watching your video.
I don't think it's just a coincidence that Luffy's brothers, Ace and Sabo, are Flame Fruit user back to back. So my guess is the relation between Flame Fruit and Sun God Fruit is deeper than we thought, especially in their fruit creation. Idk about other fruits as the product created by flame, such as magma, heat, and smoke fruit (including non-canon Smelt and Hot fruit), but Phoenix Fruit is probably related with Sun God just like Flame Fruit. Also Explosion, Light, and Lightning doesn't necessarily included here.
Now, what Vegapunk can do to create a better Mother Flame. Maybe the problem is not the method, but the core should be created by the Flame Fruit himself, and how to start it? Awakening. Magma surpass regular fire, but fire itself has levels (limitless temperature), to the point that it can surpass Lightning.
Logia awakening can create "eternal" condition to the environment, like Punk Hazard, Raijin Island, and probably Enies Lobby which has no night time. We don't know if Mother Flame is Eternal, but I would guess not. But if Undying Flame is Eternal, then only awakening df can achieve it. Maybe you need Sabo and Luffy work together to make an actual Undying Flame, and Marco's Phoenix ability to keep Luffy, the Sun God vessel, alive by healing his body in the process.
After re-reading it, this might be a stretch and dumb theory😂
The undying flame need to be as small as motherflame & can be carried everywhere too which is hard if you look at the motherflame BIG container
@@HapPawhere maybe because Mother Flame is not as perfect as the Undying Flame, you need a container for it. Idk
The idea that the Pirate King is the person with the power of charisma to move the masses and reshape the world is exactly what we see with Roger and what we're seeing with Luffy, Buggy and Teach.
These three have a charismatic appeal that borders religion.
i love the idea. i’d be pissed if Oda ended the story with a blank white page and hit us with a “it’s whatever u imagine it to be✨” type of ending😂😂
SANJI IS A STAR SHEEEEESH
Right on time 🙏🏾
The mother flame is the undying will of D.
Question, did Big Mom make a lava homie to survive?
KOL always babbling but it just sounds so right 😢🤣😭💯💯
If sanji’s fire powers comes from sora in some sort of way it’ll kinda connect to the mother flame due to airs being sanji’s mother and him having fire powers yk I’m saying “mother flame”
It literally comes from acceleration
Oda have said i5
That was originally Oda's explanation in pre-timeskip but Sanji now just makes flames. He doesn't need to move anymore. Oda now says it comes from his emotions/passion. @parmar__12
@@yugfus it comes from his passion?
When did oda said it and why can he just make flames in his legs only?
It's just like red hawk
@@parmar__12 "just the legs? " haven't to heard about hell memories?
If you have any time left glazing zoro.
@@Marshall_D_preach what hell memories
He can only produce fire from his legss
So as the "heavenly demon" does doffy possess a mix of zoro's and luffy's flames?
I just need a G5 version of red hawk to happen soon. Almost positive it’ll break the internet
My theory is the mother flame is sun god nika’s soul or power
Sanji can light his feet under water and the mother flame can be in water without going out ,🤔
Sanjis flame is mid he’s never burned anyone even queen had no burn marks after taking his strongest attack
I didn’t notice the Saturn power down !
How would Zoro’s “Flying Dragon Blaze” fit into this equation?
What if Sanji’s last power up is somehow harnessing the motherflame
Do you find it weird that even Blackbeards powers are displayed as black fire
Its like Katekyo Hitman Reborn
I wasn't sure what to think of zoro and fire but I think u r on to something also on that note mihawks attacks are also green and that made me think about zoro claiming shawk is more human than the real deal
Salmon Dean Winchester for the win.
pulled cosmic right out of his own ass 💀
How much for a plate king? The cooking. In this video
Nine Tailed Fox, Nine Sword Ashura Zoro. Coincident? I think not!
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I'm just gonna throw it out there, but I believe Luffy creates the mother flame, I have a theory that we have only seen Luffy transform at night or during the moon , giving him that white lunatic version of the sun god. I believe his true form will be seen during sunlight and will utilize flames of the sun, since the Nika form fuels the giant robot as does the mother flame, the mother flame comes from the Nika power
Supernatural reference and Billy and Mandy?? Subscribed
Can I link a video
Edit: I think that would be a good video king should watch
Remind me of Hitman Reborn deathperation flames.
Taintedmarth mega theory the blank canvas kol knows
It would be get back for ace if he has fire that’s stronger than magma burning akianu
Where is that first opening scene from??
I dont know man im pretty sure oda just likes drawing fire and other hot stuff
Not hell fire underworld fire as in it doesn’t burn ppl like how sanji leaves grill marks
One piece hype for life great 👍🏻 video nice 👍🏻 hype!!!!!!!!!
So what is sabo who is fire itself
Yass Luffy need another buff...
I think you’re focusing on the idea of the Sun god being literal. I think Nika is more of a symbolic god with it representing freedom and being unbound.
I agree with you. Nearly every god we have EVER seen in OP turns out to be a normal, flesh and blood creature that can be defeated.
Long time, Lightning.
wait what about Brook in soul form ?
Luffy will create the actual Mother Flame (sun type) vs Zeus Big Mom.
Sounds like Flame of Dying Will. KHR, anyone?
I always equated Luffy with cosmic because of the SUN God thing.
What if Luffy will be the last pirate after achieving his true dream?
This just gives oden hype
what if bb consume mother flame 😂
I wonder if the Mother Flame is actually alive 🤔
That’s my nikka
Luffy did legit eat a laser…So I’m sure he could generate whatever plasma he likes as he has been doing it IMO but Luffy is an idiot and needs his abilities explained to him
Luffy x Nami at the end GGWP :)
The anime has been wrong before kol referring to Luffy looking super heated I mean they got robins skin color wrong for a while lol
Nika is locked away in heaven by the sounds of it and he was locked away but gave the world devil fruits. Like joy boy the devil fruit Witch luffy is now has the power of nika. He will be unlocked from the heaven again witch imu locked nika away 800 hours ago