Franky and Brook really made it all the way to the final saga without a single power up since the start of the timeskip. They just been living off the new island exp buffs all the strawhats get.
Brook had his soul/ice/music powers showcased on Fishman Island(being able to astral project) and Whole Cake(Soul vs Soul with BM) a fair bit, with an accompanying underlying power-boost. Wano did him dirty making him the cleanup detail for Robin’s leftovers. At least we got more ice and music hallucinations.
Maybe they haven’t gotten a huge power up ability or whatever but they definitely have been getting stronger in their own right each arc, especially Franky post Dressrosa & Wano
That what im always saying the fanbase just don’t gets it Oda is clearly using the Vice Admirals for Hype Tools doenst matter if you like it or Not that was always the Chase Same in Marineford when Whitebeard defeated 2 of them too some of yall forget that all Vice Admirals were stated to have arment Haki and Observation Haki and franky has it from what we know not and still able to defeat an Vice admiral and tank kizarus kick
@@vistaxx whitebeard defeating 2 vice admiral is meaningless tho, because he's litteraly WHITEBEARD, even when we didn't see him at his best we were still told he was one piece's Madara when alive
@@aanthonyy_ Yeah like that's similar to talking about *Kaido* vs a vice admiral lmao. I do not think there is *enough* Vice Admirals to put down Kaido (as long as we're not counting Garp) ... and tbh, Garp v Kaido would probably go to Kaido since Garp is now a bit past his prime while Kaido seems to be in the peak of his.
"Dressrosa Doffy, yeah" What, is he getting workout tips from Freiza while he's chained to a floor at the bottom of an ocean prison? Dressrosa Doffy is CURRENT Doffy. At best.
They are tortured in inpel down,dont get feed well nor drink well. Ace was so weak mentally that he couldnt even use haki in marineford. Since doffy is royal i dont think theh torture him that much,but imo he js weaker rn than when he was dressrosa
To be fair, Crocodile, Mr 1, Mr 2, and Mr 3 all got stronger in Impel down. The actual calendar time between Alabasta and Impel Down arc wasn't too long.
I always imagined haki more of a stat buff, so if you are strong enough it doesnt matter unless you need the special properties like nullifiying dfpowers or bypassing defense as a whole.
I agree. I think a misconception we as a community have had for over a decade at this point is just assuming "Haki=stronger character" (i know what Kaido said lol) when looking back, even on Skypeia Strawhats were beating obv Haki using opponents. Luffy beat Sandersonia and Marigold who had both armament and obvs on Amazon Lily. We really shouldn't be as surprised as we are that the stronger SH's or even other characters with no haki can still do work against those that do use it, it's been happening since early on. A Hakiless character that's already strong enough can take down proficient Haki users, just takes some more ingenuity is the pattern we're seeing. Really, the only reason say Brook or Franky would need it at this point is if they were scrapping with a logia or something.
Yeah but at the same time zoro with sea stone swords doesnt seem like the same as ryo coc armament haki zoro we have now so haki is weird as you have zoro doing stuff like judge onigiri even tho its just haki so like haki is a plot devise to sum it up.
It's more like vegapunk was concerned because the seraphim haven't done any testing against laserbeam attacks. And that makes sense since only pacifista, kizaru and franky do laserbeam attacks. Also consider how much they cost. On punk hazard the beam was much stronger than sanji's kicks On onigashima big mom did express some fear And on egghead sanji kicked kizaru's beam away wich shocked kizaru and franky. It's hard to scale but i do think it's powerful enough to cause damage even to top tier characters, if he can hit them.
@@spunkymonkey5102 His radical beam one shot a number, frighten Big Mom, and destroys virtually anything in its path, it also went through Saturn cleanly
Exactly. I don't know why they keep separating them. Shogun is a response to Big Emperor failing because the crew wouldn't cooperating with him pre time skip.
Nah. He’s been the strongest behind Sanji the whole series until Jinbei joined. He always packs up his opponents. He’s never had an extreme diff fight. He beat Sasaki and was fresh afterwards. Robin had to be carried by Brook after beating Black Maria. People sleep on Franky because he’s less popular. His combat into was matching Luffy in combat in Water 7 and people are surprised. He fought Vice admiral Bastille and Senior Pink iirc at the same time in the anime way back in Dressrossa.
he was fighting in general franky to keep up with sasaki. thats why he wasnt hurt. Their final interaction had him hit sasaki with general frankys big move, sasaki tanked it, destoryed general franky as franky himself was ejected, and then frnaky delivered the finisher. Actually, when you consider General Franky consists of Wapometal, it actually makes Sasaki puncturing ti all the more impressive. Anyways, you can consider General Franky when powerscaling Franky, but his base was not the one tanking Sasaki
@Prideium9001 What logic? I dont think you read what I said. I said you can use general franky for powerscaling him, its perfectly fine. Its one of his tools, it counts. My reply was to the to the original person who said franky was fresh after fighting sasaki, yeah of course he was, he wasnt taking hits from sasaki in his base, so that fight itself doesnt actually tell much if youre trying to gauge his strength without the giant robot suit.
When he reacted to the chapter I was the first to say "they're a Yonko crew" right after KOL started talking sh*t about vice admirals. Vice Admirals are no b*tches, it's just our boys are super strong now, that is a Shonen Anime rule :)
Armament haki's base form is called hardening for a reason. It hardens stuff. Here's the thing, though: some things are already hard naturally. So it's no wonder that a non haki user with extremely hard body parts might dominate a haki user who can't make his body as hard.
Potentially. Franky’s radical beam is no joke. If he uses the Shogun to hold someone in place and then hit them, I think most 3rd commanders we’ve seen take heavy damage. But if that doesn’t work he’s in serious trouble. Robin has a lot more options & reaction speed. Chopper also might be Yonko officer- YC3 tier, my boy made Queen bleed buckets & was tanking hits from him & Perospero ( who is close to YC3).
Idk if this is a thing people just don't think about but during Punk Hazard, a few of the crew is locked up and Sanji is trying repeatedly to kick open the door to get them out, and basically deems it as impossible. Franky opens the door in one shot with his Radical Beam. I'm sure there's a lot more debate to be had about that but it's definitely something worth noting.
Imagine vegapunks brain could wirelessly connect to franky like the satellites. Franky already saw pluton and vegapunk mention he never forgets anything as part of his fruit.
King your forgetting about one thing…What would happen if Franky can make VEGA Cola? Since all his techniques are powered by cola…but VegaPunk has piloted the General Franky…an upgrade has to be in the works on their way to Elbalf
The one thing I want to see in the series before it ends is every current strawhat learning/maxing at least 1 form of haki each which at this point I think they deserve Only 5 so far can use haki that we know of confirmed Luffy - All Zoro - Armament, Conquerors and maybe Observation Sanji - Observation (I think), maybe Armament and hopefully he'll get Conquerors to keep him on par with Zoro Jinbe - Armament, maybe observation Usopp - Observation The rest I'm hoping for the following Franky - Armament Brook - Observation and Armament Robin - Observation and Armament Chopper - Armament Nami - Observation (at this point we'd have 3 having all all, 3 having 2, and 4 having 1) and if we include possible strawhats (pick 1 to make 11 strawhats) Vivi - Conquerors only Yamato - All 3? I can't remember which were confirmed Bonney - Armament maybe or none Vegapunk - Depends which but maybe none anyway
If egghead ends without Franky getting major upgrades I’m gonna be so sad. Hopefully someone like Lilith comes to elbaf and he can get upgrades there that he should’ve gotten in egghead
Man the more I think about it ITS CRAZY that vegapunk could pretty much make 6 horcruxes, imagine how much tech franky will get if even one vegapunk gets on the sunny
That’s exactly how I feel as well only using it as a last resort type thing when all hope is lost because I feel like it’s taking frankys identity away a bit
franky is the goat! I think you can argue that shogun can tank a lot of whos whos attacks. based on the way that the two characters are portrayed sasaki seems more like the slow, heavy hitter while who's who is more of a speedy allrounder and to me they seem pretty even in power level just with different strengths. ofc you can argue that sasaki didnt use haki but I'd say a big attack from sasaki should be stronger than anything who's who did against jinbei. the way I could see who's who take out the shogun would be more by being faster and maybe trying to target weakpoints like joints or legs
Genuine question. When is the last time we see Franky taking actual damage to his main body? Like *real* damage? Because his most recent big fight he was in his mecha until delivering the finisher, and thus was pretty much completely fresh afterwards. I don't know for sure, but I don't actually really recall Franky having a serious, difficult fight where he's taken damage. Not since Dressrosa, and even against Senor Pink he was intentionally tanking his attacks in a macho contest. So genuinely, do we *know* how durable Franky actually is in his base form? If Iron General is made of Wapometal it stands to reason Franky used it to upgrade his own body too, seeing as how his body *has* drastically changed between pre timeskip and now. This is *entirely* unfounded don't get me wrong, but wouldn't it be an absolute riot if Franky was basically *just* as strong as the giant mecha? So if someone got done fighting the mecha and was relieved when it shut down, Franky just pops out of the cockpit and dogwalks them xD
Other than his 1v1 against Señor Pink, the last time Franky took damage (and was defeated) was in Dressrosa when he fought Señor Pink, Machvise, Dellinger, Vice Admiral Bastille, and a bunch of marine officers all at the same time.
The Franky Shogun getting roller blades like the mechs in Code Geass would increase the manouverability and speed by like 4x at minimum. And would be pretty dope imo
Im expecting the Franky Shogun to get some upgrades in Elbaf since the Shogun is huge and Elbaf is the home of the giants. So huge shields and weapons are on the table as well
In the same context that we speak about Captain kidd using haki but it being invisible during Wano against big Mom, we have to also apply that to characters like Franky, Robin and Brook. Logically it would only make sense for these characters to as well have haki. They fight under the future king of the Pirates, as well as them, having the will to push themselves to the point to where they might actually lose their lives during these major fights they are having. And as ones will connects to them utilizing haki I’d argue, It’s the same concept as Captain kids. It’s just invisible! If usopp can gain haki during dressrosa and also be shown to use his observation haki without any special effects later on, hence invisible. Then why isnt it possible for someone like franky/robin/brook to use armament haki as well. Even if they aren’t aware of themselves using haki, similar to zoro using conquerors against Kaido & having no idea he’s even using it yet Kaido stated he was! I’m not saying they have it. But it’s no where near absurd for that to be a reality for these mugiwara!
What I wonder is without upgrades CAN Franks get stronger? Like if he doesn’t have muscles doesn’t he rely on upgrades, unless it’s like a teen titans cyborg moment or a “willpower” thing
What would be a nice video is every fight the straw hats has fought throughout the series and which straw hats could beat each one. Obviously they could all beat every East Blue fight except maybe Buggy (mostly Zoro would struggle) and Sanji wouldn't be able to beat Alvida which goes without saying. But like Wapol, Crocodile, Mr 1, Enel, Foxxy, Aokiji, Lucci (both versions though awakened CP0 version I think only Luffy, Zoro, Sanji and Jimbei would win), Kaku (also both versions), Moria, Perona, Oars with Luffys shadow, Kuma, Kizaru (only Luffy and maybe Zoro and Sanji), Boa Hancock (Sanji loses no doubt), Magellan (don't know if even Luffy would win tbh), Akainu, Hody Jones (I mean even Zoro at the time could beat him), Ceasar Clown, Monet, Doflamingo, Sugar, Pica, Fujitora, Katakuri and after that I think it's mostly the tobi ropos and vice admirals you can even have a discussion about right now.
Y’all remember ODA carries every character along, not just the straw hats are leveling up, but every of their adversaries too, take lucci, crocodile all those guys for example , and don’t forget Doffy is a coc haki user, obviously his gonna get stronger too even more than lucci and crocodile, maybe not as strong as luffy but zoro’s level ( 1st commander lvl).
Now this was purely headcanon but post time skip I honestly wanted Franky to be one of Luffy top commanders. This was before Wano when Jinbe joined and before Whole Cake when we got that epic scene of Bobbins destroying a country😅. I thought heck if he could do it Franky should definitely be a country destroying Terminator. Ultimately though Oda has lessened him & chopper sadly. I really wanted them to make more gains before this last saga. But I ain't mad if we get anything good from Franky even if it's late..
Robin over Franky? Sasaki > Black Maria Forget Robin getting an upgrade, y’all said yourselves that Robin was at 2% after that fight, basically High High/Extreme Diff. Franky was cooling Even look at Egg Head. Robin got off screened into bandages. Chad Franky running laps on Kizaru, Saturn, and Vice Admirals. Still pushing P
Franky is dope, he's a good combatant for sure but im not putting him on jack or doffy's level because he beat red king. Especially outside the franky shogun, hell seeing the vivre card notes about the flying six sasaki should have been a tougher fight but thats old news. Though he will be whenever he has to fight a commander class opponent. Don't get me wrong i like that his fighting style armored me is damn good but he aint there yet imo though but i like that cutty flam gets a lot of deserved love.
Franky has more determination that all the lower cats of the strawhats so is possible he will be having haki and be at least the 4th commander. Franky is fearless and he doesn’t care about if a yonko is in front of him.
This is Franky slander. Who's who is mid or hard diff for base Franky but mid diff for full Franky shogun full cola. The wapometal is stronger than who's who bite or claw attacks if it can stand Sasakis attacks
I mean just off the title alone, Franky IS currently a Yonko Commander or equivalent, he ain’t fighting 1-3rd or 4th commanders but below that it’s fair game
i think like this , do you think franky is weaker than pre time skin luffy? (cause pre time skip luffy could beat weaker vice admirals), i think hes stronger in his own sense
I figured they’d wait until void century stuff for Franky upgrades cause they’re more advanced than Vegapunk right? I’m thinking Franky will get some nano tech upgrade HAKI is will power mix that with nano tech maybe Franky uses his tech in like a gear 5 way where he can manifest stuff via the nano tech
I am going to be honest if I was there during the stream I say franky is a gate keeper to the 3rd division. He needs upgrades to make it in for me, also gassing Franky to high heavens thinking he can take doffy. Even in general when parasite strings come out it will be a wrap.
Franky is really underrated he is durable af even without the shogun and his radical beam has crazy ap I think if he lands a clean one he could wipe doffy and whos who too
With every Tier, there are degrees to it and characters have various abilities/traits to make their "claim" to that tier. Which is why I think, right now for sure Franky is 3rd Commander level but he is not beating Jack. You can argue Doffy and Who's Who but not those that occupy the higher echelon of that tier
When kaido said haki trumps all I think he’s telling the truth but only if you have top tier, elite haki. Low tier haki isn’t as helpful and there’s ways to overcome it.
Imagine a dude with all three types of haki thats been training for years and awakene dhis devil fruit getting bodied by some cola addicted cyborg surfer with laser nipples that dont even be fighting fr
I get the feeling that Jimbei will be the one to fight Burges. Now imagine Franky fighting Avalon, Just imagine the Thousand Sunny Vs a Giant sentient Island and we are seeing the full potential of Franky's technology.
Franky defeated that multi-chinned Vice-Admiral on the latest chapter because he first got a hit on his steam-power punched arm (which exploded on his face) and THEN got a hit on his face! I don't want to take anything away from the GOAT simply because he is always fighting someone who looks ridiculous (squid with a head spear on Fishman insland and after that Mr. Baby and Helicosaurus), and I don't know what "Franky is Third Commander level" means (powerscalers will be powerscaling i guess...) but I think that the first thing I mentioned wasn't figured out by many fans, besides the fact that some discusions need to be made and some others simply don't (IMO always)
Franky and Brook really made it all the way to the final saga without a single power up since the start of the timeskip. They just been living off the new island exp buffs all the strawhats get.
Brook had his soul/ice/music powers showcased on Fishman Island(being able to astral project) and Whole Cake(Soul vs Soul with BM) a fair bit, with an accompanying underlying power-boost.
Wano did him dirty making him the cleanup detail for Robin’s leftovers. At least we got more ice and music hallucinations.
@@Nthsey thats all stuff he came into the timeskip with I'm talking about new powers they had to gain in the new world.
Maybe they haven’t gotten a huge power up ability or whatever but they definitely have been getting stronger in their own right each arc, especially Franky post Dressrosa & Wano
@@chrisp4643 I clearly said that
It doesn't work like that, they're getting stronger over time, + they had their hardsips.
The image of Franky choking out Doffy is NUTS🤣😭
😂😂
Doffy is at least 2nd Commander level. He beats Jack easily and possibly Queen too.
@@Scorpion122178 Agreed
@@Scorpion1221783rd commander at best, Cracker put up a better fight than him.
Doffy stomps Franky 🐌🐌
Ever since he manhandled Blueno back when he was first introduced, I never underestimated him.
The Strawhat combatants are no joke. Franky was definitely the strongest outside of the big 3 before Jinbei joined.
I think we'll have to start calling it the big 4
Extremely common Franky W
Franky low diffing a vice admiral is not a vice Admiral L at all. Franky is just him
Yes it is an L
That what im always saying the fanbase just don’t gets it Oda is clearly using the Vice Admirals for Hype Tools doenst matter if you like it or Not that was always the Chase Same in Marineford when Whitebeard defeated 2 of them too some of yall forget that all Vice Admirals were stated to have arment Haki and Observation Haki and franky has it from what we know not and still able to defeat an Vice admiral and tank kizarus kick
@@vistaxx whitebeard defeating 2 vice admiral is meaningless tho, because he's litteraly WHITEBEARD, even when we didn't see him at his best we were still told he was one piece's Madara when alive
@@aanthonyy_ Yeah like that's similar to talking about *Kaido* vs a vice admiral lmao.
I do not think there is *enough* Vice Admirals to put down Kaido (as long as we're not counting Garp)
... and tbh, Garp v Kaido would probably go to Kaido since Garp is now a bit past his prime while Kaido seems to be in the peak of his.
People say when rob lucci lost to luffy it was an L but...
LUFFY IS LITERALLY THE MAIN CHARACTER
The world government should be looking into Cola power, cause it’s currently kicking their ass
Cola is a substitute for the mother flame
Frankys game needs to be studied
Franky is HIM
"Dressrosa Doffy, yeah"
What, is he getting workout tips from Freiza while he's chained to a floor at the bottom of an ocean prison? Dressrosa Doffy is CURRENT Doffy. At best.
They are tortured in inpel down,dont get feed well nor drink well. Ace was so weak mentally that he couldnt even use haki in marineford. Since doffy is royal i dont think theh torture him that much,but imo he js weaker rn than when he was dressrosa
To be fair, Crocodile, Mr 1, Mr 2, and Mr 3 all got stronger in Impel down. The actual calendar time between Alabasta and Impel Down arc wasn't too long.
I always imagined haki more of a stat buff, so if you are strong enough it doesnt matter unless you need the special properties like nullifiying dfpowers or bypassing defense as a whole.
I agree. I think a misconception we as a community have had for over a decade at this point is just assuming "Haki=stronger character" (i know what Kaido said lol) when looking back, even on Skypeia Strawhats were beating obv Haki using opponents. Luffy beat Sandersonia and Marigold who had both armament and obvs on Amazon Lily. We really shouldn't be as surprised as we are that the stronger SH's or even other characters with no haki can still do work against those that do use it, it's been happening since early on. A Hakiless character that's already strong enough can take down proficient Haki users, just takes some more ingenuity is the pattern we're seeing. Really, the only reason say Brook or Franky would need it at this point is if they were scrapping with a logia or something.
@@MagillanicaLouMFranky could just make seastone weapons, like brass knuckles
Yeah but at the same time zoro with sea stone swords doesnt seem like the same as ryo coc armament haki zoro we have now so haki is weird as you have zoro doing stuff like judge onigiri even tho its just haki so like haki is a plot devise to sum it up.
Franky's laser was shown to be considered a threat to the seraphim by Vegapunk. He could beam Jack easily and kill him. I'm a fan of Jack too btw
Bro is smoking some ridiculous packs if you think the radical beam is stronger than Suulong Neko attacks💀
@@spunkymonkey5102But it def is lol.
It's more like vegapunk was concerned because the seraphim haven't done any testing against laserbeam attacks. And that makes sense since only pacifista, kizaru and franky do laserbeam attacks. Also consider how much they cost.
On punk hazard the beam was much stronger than sanji's kicks
On onigashima big mom did express some fear
And on egghead sanji kicked kizaru's beam away wich shocked kizaru and franky.
It's hard to scale but i do think it's powerful enough to cause damage even to top tier characters, if he can hit them.
@@spunkymonkey5102 His radical beam one shot a number, frighten Big Mom, and destroys virtually anything in its path, it also went through Saturn cleanly
@@spunkymonkey5102its basically the same as kizaru's finger laser.
The Franky Shogun is part of Franky's arsenal. Imagine going down the road of "could Zoro beat King without his swords?".
Exactly. I don't know why they keep separating them. Shogun is a response to Big Emperor failing because the crew wouldn't cooperating with him pre time skip.
Exactly, + the shogun is literally created by franky like the rest of his mechanics, not including it is a mistake
Also its more of a stylistic choice than anything. Oda wanted to give him a cool robot. Its not really primarily an upgrade
Nah. He’s been the strongest behind Sanji the whole series until Jinbei joined. He always packs up his opponents. He’s never had an extreme diff fight. He beat Sasaki and was fresh afterwards. Robin had to be carried by Brook after beating Black Maria. People sleep on Franky because he’s less popular. His combat into was matching Luffy in combat in Water 7 and people are surprised. He fought Vice admiral Bastille and Senior Pink iirc at the same time in the anime way back in Dressrossa.
He was fighting like 3 of Doflamingo executives at once. Dellinger, Senor Pink, and Machvise.
he was fighting in general franky to keep up with sasaki. thats why he wasnt hurt. Their final interaction had him hit sasaki with general frankys big move, sasaki tanked it, destoryed general franky as franky himself was ejected, and then frnaky delivered the finisher. Actually, when you consider General Franky consists of Wapometal, it actually makes Sasaki puncturing ti all the more impressive. Anyways, you can consider General Franky when powerscaling Franky, but his base was not the one tanking Sasaki
Yup real ones know it, Franky always had hands since day 1
@@JP-zb3ybby that logic Nami only won against Ulti because of Zeus and her tact, however most people say she’s the strongest of the weaklings
@Prideium9001 What logic? I dont think you read what I said. I said you can use general franky for powerscaling him, its perfectly fine. Its one of his tools, it counts. My reply was to the to the original person who said franky was fresh after fighting sasaki, yeah of course he was, he wasnt taking hits from sasaki in his base, so that fight itself doesnt actually tell much if youre trying to gauge his strength without the giant robot suit.
When he reacted to the chapter I was the first to say "they're a Yonko crew" right after KOL started talking sh*t about vice admirals. Vice Admirals are no b*tches, it's just our boys are super strong now, that is a Shonen Anime rule :)
Frankies radical beam went through saturn mythical awakened form so if doffy took that he would turn to swiss cheese
They're whole deal is that they take damage and regenerate. They're not suppose to tank damage.
As a Franky fan this is the video I needed
Armament haki's base form is called hardening for a reason. It hardens stuff. Here's the thing, though: some things are already hard naturally. So it's no wonder that a non haki user with extremely hard body parts might dominate a haki user who can't make his body as hard.
Potentially. Franky’s radical beam is no joke. If he uses the Shogun to hold someone in place and then hit them, I think most 3rd commanders we’ve seen take heavy damage. But if that doesn’t work he’s in serious trouble.
Robin has a lot more options & reaction speed.
Chopper also might be Yonko officer- YC3 tier, my boy made Queen bleed buckets & was tanking hits from him & Perospero ( who is close to YC3).
Idk if this is a thing people just don't think about but during Punk Hazard, a few of the crew is locked up and Sanji is trying repeatedly to kick open the door to get them out, and basically deems it as impossible. Franky opens the door in one shot with his Radical Beam. I'm sure there's a lot more debate to be had about that but it's definitely something worth noting.
Imagine vegapunks brain could wirelessly connect to franky like the satellites. Franky already saw pluton and vegapunk mention he never forgets anything as part of his fruit.
The thumbnail is crazy king
I've just finished rewatching Water Seven, Enies Lobby, and Thriller Bark. Franky has ALWAYS been solid.
nah, that thumbnail is foul 💀
What’s crazy is that the Jack Vs Minks tribe wasn’t even the longest fight in the series, the stamina to fight for DAYS straight is amazing
franky before the series ends will for sure fuse with the sunny and make a giant megazord
King your forgetting about one thing…What would happen if Franky can make VEGA Cola? Since all his techniques are powered by cola…but VegaPunk has piloted the General Franky…an upgrade has to be in the works on their way to Elbalf
One improvement he can def make is incorporating the anti grav boots on the shogun to increase its speed
The one thing I want to see in the series before it ends is every current strawhat learning/maxing at least 1 form of haki each which at this point I think they deserve
Only 5 so far can use haki that we know of confirmed
Luffy - All
Zoro - Armament, Conquerors and maybe Observation
Sanji - Observation (I think), maybe Armament and hopefully he'll get Conquerors to keep him on par with Zoro
Jinbe - Armament, maybe observation
Usopp - Observation
The rest I'm hoping for the following
Franky - Armament
Brook - Observation and Armament
Robin - Observation and Armament
Chopper - Armament
Nami - Observation
(at this point we'd have 3 having all all, 3 having 2, and 4 having 1)
and if we include possible strawhats (pick 1 to make 11 strawhats)
Vivi - Conquerors only
Yamato - All 3? I can't remember which were confirmed
Bonney - Armament maybe or none
Vegapunk - Depends which but maybe none anyway
Wranky is the man everyone should aspire to be. He lives his life with no fear, no regrets, a smile, and a big ol' DON in his heart.
Oda had a perfect opportunity to very clearly & outright give Franky haki. Literally perfect
You cannot be comparing overall power level by using matchups. Franky's Radical Beam is brutal, but it needs to connect. It's like solar beam.
Yo ya'll are WILD for this one.
If egghead ends without Franky getting major upgrades I’m gonna be so sad. Hopefully someone like Lilith comes to elbaf and he can get upgrades there that he should’ve gotten in egghead
Garp, Kolby, and Kuzan training with the battle boats with no Haki should be enough to tell you that you need to be strong enough naturally 😅
He can also incorporate the bubble shield
Man the more I think about it ITS CRAZY that vegapunk could pretty much make 6 horcruxes, imagine how much tech franky will get if even one vegapunk gets on the sunny
honestly despite how cool the franky shogun is i wish to see more of franky fighting by himself without it and having it as a trump card
That’s exactly how I feel as well only using it as a last resort type thing when all hope is lost because I feel like it’s taking frankys identity away a bit
That thumbnail is wild af my guy 😂
Should have asked if Franky is stronger than Ulti because in both strength and durability she had the best showing of the Tobi Roppo IMO.
franky is the goat!
I think you can argue that shogun can tank a lot of whos whos attacks. based on the way that the two characters are portrayed sasaki seems more like the slow, heavy hitter while who's who is more of a speedy allrounder and to me they seem pretty even in power level just with different strengths. ofc you can argue that sasaki didnt use haki but I'd say a big attack from sasaki should be stronger than anything who's who did against jinbei. the way I could see who's who take out the shogun would be more by being faster and maybe trying to target weakpoints like joints or legs
This doffy treatment is WILD 😂
He’s gonna make them pay 😈
Franky in the same sentence as doffy is foul 😂
If franky doesn't get the green blood...imma be pisssssssed
Doffy when he sees a super radical beam coming at him:💀
Genuine question. When is the last time we see Franky taking actual damage to his main body? Like *real* damage? Because his most recent big fight he was in his mecha until delivering the finisher, and thus was pretty much completely fresh afterwards. I don't know for sure, but I don't actually really recall Franky having a serious, difficult fight where he's taken damage. Not since Dressrosa, and even against Senor Pink he was intentionally tanking his attacks in a macho contest.
So genuinely, do we *know* how durable Franky actually is in his base form? If Iron General is made of Wapometal it stands to reason Franky used it to upgrade his own body too, seeing as how his body *has* drastically changed between pre timeskip and now.
This is *entirely* unfounded don't get me wrong, but wouldn't it be an absolute riot if Franky was basically *just* as strong as the giant mecha? So if someone got done fighting the mecha and was relieved when it shut down, Franky just pops out of the cockpit and dogwalks them xD
Other than his 1v1 against Señor Pink, the last time Franky took damage (and was defeated) was in Dressrosa when he fought Señor Pink, Machvise, Dellinger, Vice Admiral Bastille, and a bunch of marine officers all at the same time.
This doesn’t surprise me, Franky BEEN like this imo
Franky is underrated combat-wise.
We were not ready for HIM!
The Franky Shogun getting roller blades like the mechs in Code Geass would increase the manouverability and speed by like 4x at minimum.
And would be pretty dope imo
Im expecting the Franky Shogun to get some upgrades in Elbaf since the Shogun is huge and Elbaf is the home of the giants.
So huge shields and weapons are on the table as well
Not all vice admirals are made the same.
It might be the broadest scale in one piece, you have bums like Maynard that got OFFSCREENED by barto, then you got people like Momonga, doll and garp
In the same context that we speak about Captain kidd using haki but it being invisible during Wano against big Mom, we have to also apply that to characters like Franky, Robin and Brook. Logically it would only make sense for these characters to as well have haki. They fight under the future king of the Pirates, as well as them, having the will to push themselves to the point to where they might actually lose their lives during these major fights they are having. And as ones will connects to them utilizing haki I’d argue, It’s the same concept as Captain kids. It’s just invisible! If usopp can gain haki during dressrosa and also be shown to use his observation haki without any special effects later on, hence invisible. Then why isnt it possible for someone like franky/robin/brook to use armament haki as well. Even if they aren’t aware of themselves using haki, similar to zoro using conquerors against Kaido & having no idea he’s even using it yet Kaido stated he was! I’m not saying they have it. But it’s no where near absurd for that to be a reality for these mugiwara!
I love franky fr but bro getting clapped by commanders
He is 4° yc comander
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What I wonder is without upgrades CAN Franks get stronger? Like if he doesn’t have muscles doesn’t he rely on upgrades, unless it’s like a teen titans cyborg moment or a “willpower” thing
Franky having iron-man suits is crazy 😂 that’s lowb the one and only thing he needs
What would be a nice video is every fight the straw hats has fought throughout the series and which straw hats could beat each one.
Obviously they could all beat every East Blue fight except maybe Buggy (mostly Zoro would struggle) and Sanji wouldn't be able to beat Alvida which goes without saying.
But like Wapol, Crocodile, Mr 1, Enel, Foxxy, Aokiji, Lucci (both versions though awakened CP0 version I think only Luffy, Zoro, Sanji and Jimbei would win), Kaku (also both versions), Moria, Perona, Oars with Luffys shadow, Kuma, Kizaru (only Luffy and maybe Zoro and Sanji), Boa Hancock (Sanji loses no doubt), Magellan (don't know if even Luffy would win tbh), Akainu, Hody Jones (I mean even Zoro at the time could beat him), Ceasar Clown, Monet, Doflamingo, Sugar, Pica, Fujitora, Katakuri and after that I think it's mostly the tobi ropos and vice admirals you can even have a discussion about right now.
Y’all remember ODA carries every character along, not just the straw hats are leveling up, but every of their adversaries too, take lucci, crocodile all those guys for example , and don’t forget Doffy is a coc haki user, obviously his gonna get stronger too even more than lucci and crocodile, maybe not as strong as luffy but zoro’s level ( 1st commander lvl).
Keep up the great work and videos KOL love the video
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It’s really the radical beam that elevates franky
Now this was purely headcanon but post time skip I honestly wanted Franky to be one of Luffy top commanders. This was before Wano when Jinbe joined and before Whole Cake when we got that epic scene of Bobbins destroying a country😅. I thought heck if he could do it Franky should definitely be a country destroying Terminator. Ultimately though Oda has lessened him & chopper sadly. I really wanted them to make more gains before this last saga. But I ain't mad if we get anything good from Franky even if it's late..
Robin over Franky?
Sasaki > Black Maria
Forget Robin getting an upgrade, y’all said yourselves that Robin was at 2% after that fight, basically High High/Extreme Diff. Franky was cooling
Even look at Egg Head. Robin got off screened into bandages. Chad Franky running laps on Kizaru, Saturn, and Vice Admirals. Still pushing P
Franky having mini cons like in transformers. Where they can link up n make there mini Shogun
Why did Oda draw an old man that’s packing noodle put a robot arm on it
Franky is dope, he's a good combatant for sure but im not putting him on jack or doffy's level because he beat red king. Especially outside the franky shogun, hell seeing the vivre card notes about the flying six sasaki should have been a tougher fight but thats old news. Though he will be whenever he has to fight a commander class opponent. Don't get me wrong i like that his fighting style armored me is damn good but he aint there yet imo though but i like that cutty flam gets a lot of deserved love.
Franky has more determination that all the lower cats of the strawhats so is possible he will be having haki and be at least the 4th commander. Franky is fearless and he doesn’t care about if a yonko is in front of him.
Did sasaki show off haki? If not I wouldn't put them as equals
This is Franky slander. Who's who is mid or hard diff for base Franky but mid diff for full Franky shogun full cola. The wapometal is stronger than who's who bite or claw attacks if it can stand Sasakis attacks
I think people need to realise that oda doesn’t give a toss about power scaling
I mean just off the title alone, Franky IS currently a Yonko Commander or equivalent, he ain’t fighting 1-3rd or 4th commanders but below that it’s fair game
i think like this , do you think franky is weaker than pre time skin luffy? (cause pre time skip luffy could beat weaker vice admirals), i think hes stronger in his own sense
Wano and egghead show how little Ora cares about powerscaling
Can you imagine if Franky knows how to use haki?
I figured they’d wait until void century stuff for Franky upgrades cause they’re more advanced than Vegapunk right? I’m thinking Franky will get some nano tech upgrade HAKI is will power mix that with nano tech maybe Franky uses his tech in like a gear 5 way where he can manifest stuff via the nano tech
That’s some nasty takes that i’m hearing right now😂😂
I am going to be honest if I was there during the stream I say franky is a gate keeper to the 3rd division. He needs upgrades to make it in for me, also gassing Franky to high heavens thinking he can take doffy. Even in general when parasite strings come out it will be a wrap.
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Luffy couldn't break the strings until he used gear 4
Some Franky love? Im here for it!!! The pirate kings crew has to be OP
Franky is really underrated he is durable af even without the shogun and his radical beam has crazy ap I think if he lands a clean one he could wipe doffy and whos who too
The most I could see current Franky being is 4th commander level. 3rd commanders like Cracker, Jimbe, Yassopp, etc.. I all see them beating him.
Who's who isn't faster than light speed. Radical Beam GG
powerscaling actively destroys your braincells yall might as well start huffing glue omg
I believe all straw hats by NOW! can each can easily deal with Marine Captins 1vs1 without even noticing a Challenge
I don't think jembe had a hard time with who's who at all he took his time getting info
Who dare insult the Straw-hats? Each of them is freaking PRO.
With every Tier, there are degrees to it and characters have various abilities/traits to make their "claim" to that tier. Which is why I think, right now for sure Franky is 3rd Commander level but he is not beating Jack. You can argue Doffy and Who's Who but not those that occupy the higher echelon of that tier
Lasers are just strong in general in the op world ,wonder when the fandom will accept this .
The doflamingo slander has been crazy lately.
When kaido said haki trumps all I think he’s telling the truth but only if you have top tier, elite haki. Low tier haki isn’t as helpful and there’s ways to overcome it.
Imagine a dude with all three types of haki thats been training for years and awakene dhis devil fruit getting bodied by some cola addicted cyborg surfer with laser nipples that dont even be fighting fr
I expect franky to get those c stone bubble blowers
I get the feeling that Jimbei will be the one to fight Burges. Now imagine Franky fighting Avalon, Just imagine the Thousand Sunny Vs a Giant sentient Island and we are seeing the full potential of Franky's technology.
2:06 he picked sasake up with one arm!!!!
Franky defeated big mom in wano btw just a reminder , a ring out is a loss too
Franky is a cyborg. He has the potential to be even much stronger
Franky defeated that multi-chinned Vice-Admiral on the latest chapter because he first got a hit on his steam-power punched arm (which exploded on his face) and THEN got a hit on his face!
I don't want to take anything away from the GOAT simply because he is always fighting someone who looks ridiculous (squid with a head spear on Fishman insland and after that Mr. Baby and Helicosaurus), and I don't know what "Franky is Third Commander level" means (powerscalers will be powerscaling i guess...) but I think that the first thing I mentioned wasn't figured out by many fans, besides the fact that some discusions need to be made and some others simply don't (IMO always)
Frank has the potential to become as tanky as Douglas Bullet with Tech upgrades 🤔
Franky getting the Paw paw fruit plus upgrade from Vegapunk
he will be top tier commander level pirate
Christ imagine if franky learned full body armament haki
He could make the general franky even more durable
Still waiting for brook's final saga moment
I need to see Franky change his parts with sea prism stone parts to fight any devil fruit he wants. A lasengann style armor is my wet dream, no bruno