Plot Twist: The username “GGY” does not stand for Gregory. It stands for “Get Good, YOLO” This is likely the work of the absolute pro gamer, Toy Freddy. But y’all ain’t ready for that conversation yet.
Honestly, the analysis was neat, but it was lovely just hearing you talk so warmly about ytp and your memories of them. They hold a special place in our hearts
@@bluestrangler0447 You know what? Y’all are forcing my hand, it’s time to read this comic and see what’s in it. All I know is the usual “author’s poorly disguised fe****” and purple guy is Vincent (Vincent>Afton fight me)
@@salt_factory7566 Honestly it's not worth it, I rewatched a dub of it like a week before all the gross shit came out about it (terrible timing I know) and it's just disturbing. Also yes we Stan Vincent
Love this, actual question: why is the lilac rabbit graffiti at the beginning of ruin so low to the ground? In SB it’s at Vanny’s head height in the burn trap ending, but in ruin it’s at Cassie’s shoulder height and below. In graffiti language, it being in top of other marks makes it a symbol of territorial authority, but I think it’s also a clue that the Identity of Vanny has shifted or been passed down to Gregory.
Admittedly, In Space 3's Glamrock Bonnie doesn't seem as disconnected to Ruin's Bonnie as I once thought (perhaps I just never got a good closeup...). Some bits I see somewhat of a match of include the hair tuft, earring, chest star and general body shape. It often feels off for the bowling alley to have an indigo Classic looking Bonnie advertised when it doesn't match the Glamrock, and they don't do similar with a yellow Chica art around the bakery or something. The alleys entrance was in that atrium screenshot, maybe they didn't want to reveal his design (assuming he had one then)? Aside from the indigo vs paler blue (also affects the bowling screen gifs), my other issue is how the messages set up Glamrock Bonnie having claws like Monty to play bass, and the Ruin design doesn't even look to have them. Even the bowling sign guy has little nails... I never thought of that design as Bondage Bonnie. Looks like something else to add to my Fizzy pill hot take... And following in the (bear)footsteps of Freddy, he has no pants. Perhaps those 2 truly are meant for each other...
(7:58) He want’s actual Tacos, not Taco from Taco Bell. Stilly NotRealName. What happened was that the Mimic endo/Scorch Bunny/or Aubergine Man got angry at G.G.Y for bringing him Taco from Taco Bell, and he decides to no longer control G.G.Y, and G.G.Y reverted back to Gregory. Confused, he ran away. the Mimic endo/Scorch Bunny/or Aubergine Man was like “Oh crappio, what have I done?” And sends Vanessa after her. That was one of the cut content from Security Breach.
In Help Wanted 2, there is another mention of GGY through an achievement you can get if you beat all the games with a high enough score. And if GGY is canon, it provides a good reason for the existance of the arcade game in the Daycare attendants trashed room that shows balloon boy. Vanessa was freed when princess quest was beaten, so who's to say Gregory wasn't freed when the balloon boy game was beaten. I disagree with you saying that GGY has no reason to show up in the future. That plot absolutely can if Steel Wool chooses to. Cassie is likely going to be the new Vanny in whatever next installation comes around, and last she knew, Gregory betrayed her. He didn't actually, but in a new game he can discover the truth about GGY, and use that information to free Cassie and clear up that he never betrayed her.
i saw this comment before watching the video and thought: oh, must be an ar skin i missed. never in my life did i expect what the search results would be
I find it funny that under the span of almost 10 years, we went from speculating there was two killers because of sprite differences, to now arguing whether time travelling ball pits, pink goo and robot children are actually canon.
I think that Gregory was originally meant to be the sole survivor of Vanny’s own MCI or DCI, or at the very least he was the only kid she targeted that managed to escape, in the teaser trailer for SB Vanny brings up Gregory’s friends and that their worried about him, while we can hear Gregory making shaking breathing noises and sniffling, perhaps he either saw Vanny kill his friends, or he had just escaped her knowing full well she trying to kill him.
Honestly, you might be right! There is a line that was cut where Vanny tries to lure Gregory out, saying his friends are here and that they'll have fun- that it was just a glitch.
Okay this is HEAVY speculation territory but yknow, it's fnaf, what can ya do? I like to think that Glamrock Chica's line where she goes "Your family is looking for you" is related to that unused "Your friends are here with me" voiceline by Vanny. Chica going "Your family is looking for you" could be referring to Glitchtrap and Vanny looking for him, Glitchtrap has a lot of parallels to Vanessa's dad (made even stronger by having william be her dad in the movie) so I wouldn't be surprised if Gregory was also considered part of their brainwashed bunny found family. And Vanny saying "Your friends are here with me" is referring to the animatronics... hear me out, Rab seemingly hacked and used them in the GGY book. They could be seen as his friends from Vanny's point of view.
One thing that annoys me with GGY story is that some people actively leave out that Gregory was implied to be brainwashed in the story to make it seem like he’s a psychopathic murderer. Keep in mind that most people who hate Gregory for destroying the very same animatronics that are trying to kill him, will defend the animatronics by bringing up them being hacked.
because Gregory actively goes against Freddy's wishes and lies to him, on top of not giving a damn about Freddy's feelings the whole night. Gregory doesn't see Freddy as a friend, he sees Freddy as a big metal shield. an object to use for his own benefit. on top of that, we're not given any reason to like Gregory other than the fact he's a lost kid in danger. there were other options at his disposal, but Gregory took what is probably the worst option. what do you think would have been a much better story? destroying the animatronics to take their parts, or using Freddy's help to turn them against Vanny?
Gregory did see him as a friend, he helped Freddy get in Parts and Service, saved from Freddy Parts and Service and clearly is upset when Freddy gets shattered. And if anything destroying animatronics was going with Freddy's wishes, as we see Freddy helping and even telling Gregory to harm his friends he gives tips and advice on how to do so. After Gregory gets a digital message about Monty's history with the Catwalks, Freddy tells Gregory "Gregory, I do not mean to be intrusive, but I read that message that you found in the security office. There may be a chance to stop Monty from hunting you." Freddy tells him this as Gregory learns that Monty has a history with the Catwalks, basically giving a little hint to Gregory to kill Monty. Immediately, after you upgrade Freddy he targets Roxy next "Now that I have been upgraded, I should be able to access the Roxy Raceway. I have not been there for a very long time, but perhaps you can find some clues on how to deal with Roxy while you are there." Even though Freddy doesn't directly say to kill them, what does he mean by “deal with” and “stop” after receiving information on how to hurt his friends. He was clearly implying to hurt them but hid it behind a naive persona. Gregory also does go with Freddy's words and wishes, most of what Gregory does, going to the Daycare, not staying in one spot, going too places in the Pizzaplex to find more security badges and even destroying the Glamrocks is all because Freddy told him to. The only wish Gregory didn't follow was to kill Vanessa/Vanny, in the canon ending, the Princess Quest ending. Freddy is destroyed by Vanny how ever some how Freddy still has a signal and tells Gregory to "Turn them against Vanny" using the Staffbots. This again shows that Freddy has the capability to want to hurt and kill people. Gregory goes against Freddy's words and does the selfless act and saves Vanessa by Glitchtrap. This shows that Gregory isn't some selfish monster, he can care and help people in need.
@@penguinmaster7 first off Gregory didn't lie to Freddy, he told him that Chica and Roxy had accidents he just left out that he caused said accidents. Because who in their right mind would tell the only person who is trying to protect them in that life or death situation that they had to destroy their friends? Now I don't think Freddy would have abandoned Gregory had he know the truth, but given the situation who would risk that? Second off Gregory clearly cares about Freddy and sees him as a friend, he literally risks his twice for him. The first time is when he had to find the lift controls to get Freddy to parts and service, then after doing all of that he has to risk his life a second time for Freddy after he's taken by Moon. And after freeing Vanessa, Gregory takes Freddy's head to parts and service to repair him, and then leaves the Pizzaplex with Freddy, who does not object to leaving with him. Also Gregory shows clear gratitude to Freddy after saves him from Roxy and Monty. Third they are trying to murder him, them being Freddy's friends, means nothing when again THEY ARE TRYING TO MURDER HIM. Do you really expect Gregory to put the wellbeing of a bunch of robots that are a clear danger to his own life, just because their Freddy's friends? Plus as far as he knew maintenance workers woud have arrived in the morning. Also as 3nc335 states Freddy seems to give Gregory tips and even some advice on how to get rid of his friend, and in the split Vanny endings he wants Gregory to kill Vanny, he does listen to Freddy most of the time its just that when it comes to his own safety, he's not going to let Freddy's clouded judgement of his friends get him killed. Forth, so I get we're not supposed to care about either Mike or Jeremy since we know even less about them then we do Gregory(well except maybe Mike if you think the logbook has his entire character written in it, but with Jeremy its close to nothing) other than Mike is William's kid, so I guess we should just let them all be killed by the animatronics. Fifth, and what could he have done? And if you bring up the Faz wrenches Gregory can't get one because not only does he not know about them, in the main game those are most likely kept under 9 or 10 security doors(and that's assuming Vanny didn't do anything with them since those are the only things that can reboot the animatronics), and he can only get ahold of 8 security passes. Thanks for not bringing the Faz wrenches up Freddy you would have saved Gregory and your friends a lot of trouble. I honestly prefer Gregory destroying the animatronic. I like how he goes from being completely helpless against them, with his only way of surviving against them is running and hiding and hopping they don't catch him or see where he hid, to using messages he finds to help him fight back. He's the first protagonist to actually fight back, and I like that. People turning on the person who was controlling them has been done to death, and would have been way to much of a happy ending for a FNAF game. Also being able to fix the animatronics would have killed what little fear factor and any tension SB had.
@@3nc335 i didn't get any of that off of Gregory. all I saw was some little brat with a slap-worthy attitude exploiting a bear for his own benefit. Freddy explocitly tells Gregory to NOT hurt his friends, and even acts horrified when finding out where his upgrades came from. when Freddy comments on what the upgrades can be used for, it's not him telling Gregory to get them, it's him thinking out loud. there is absolutely nothing that points to Freddy actively encouraging Gregory to damage his friends. Gregory acts primarily out of malice towards animatronics as a whole, and barely displays any outwardly positive opinions to Freddy, considering he talks smack whenever Freddy is having a moment. I can't remember a single time Gregory was like "i'm glad you're here" or gave him a genuine "thank you". every time Freddy wanted to talk about something, Gregory would always turn the subject back to him. that's not being a friend to Freddy. the least the brat could do is show some gratitude for an animatronic going as far as to break several rules and risk getting in trouble or scrapped, all for a random kid he barely knows. let's not forget the fact that Gregory willingly caused millions in property damage specifically for his own benefit. He could have just hid inside Freddy in his room until 6, or moved from spot to spot whenever the others started to catch on. that would have been the smart thing. did he do that? not even close. his primary goal was to get out of the pizzaplex and away from Vanessa/Vanny. instead he ran around like a pint-sized vandal, breaking everything and eventually destroying the whole pizzaplex, not once thinking "if Freddy's this nice to me on safe mode, maybe the others would be too" or anything else logical. Hell, technically the whole thing could have been avoided if he, i don't know, CALLED THE FUCKING COPS???
@@penguinmaster7 "All I saw was some little brat with a slap-worthy attitude exploiting a bear for his own benefit." How did you get that from their interactions? Gregory wasn't exploiting Freddy, Freddy from the moment he realizes that Gregory needed help, starts trying to help him, even when Gregory doesn't fully trust him. Gregory clearly care a lot about Freddy. Also Gregory isn't a brat. "Freddy explicitly tells Gregory to NOT hurt his friends." All Freddy said was, "Gregory those parts belong to my friends, I would never do anything to hurt them." Then he tries to defend them when Gregory points out that they've done nothing but try to kill him, saying that there must be a reason for them to be acting like that while never looking for said reason. Gregory had to make a choice, it was either him or them, he made the obvious choice. Especially when he had no way of rebooting them, and as far as he knew they would have been repaired in the morning. "Gregory acts primarily out of malice towards animatronics as a whole." When? If your talking about him saying "They get what they deserve." Keep in mind that he said that when they had been trying to murder him for 4 hours at that point, him saying that is completely reasonable and more than justifiable. Also how dare a kid not care about a bunch of robots that are actively trying to murder him, especially when one of them saying that no one would miss him. "Barely displays any outwardly positive opinions to Freddy, considering he talks smack whenever Freddy is having a moment." What are you talking about? He never talked smack, especially when Freddy was having a moment(and those moments were about Bonnie). He would stay quite most likely because either he didn't know what to say to Freddy, or because he thought that if he said anything Freddy would feel worst. I'm starting to question if you've even played SB, or even watched all the cutscenes. "Every time Freddy wanted to talk about something, Gregory would always turn the subject back to him." When? When did that happen? That never happened. Gregory never changed the subject to be about himself. "The least the brat could do is show some gratitude for an animatronic going as far as to break several rules and risk getting in trouble or scrapped, all for a random kid he barely knows." "Freddy! You save me!" Gregory said gratefully after Freddy saved him from Roxy and Monty. Not to long after that Gregory would return the favor. Also Freddy is programmed to care about children and their wellbeing, he would be doing this for any child regardless of if he knew them or not, same goes for the other had they been on safe mode. "Let's not forget the fact that Gregory willingly caused millions in property damage specifically for his own benefit." I highly doubt it was millions, also how dare Gregory put his wellbeing over the property of a giant corrupt giga corporation. I guess money is more important than a child's life. "He could have just hid inside Freddy in his room until 6, or moved from spot to spot whenever the others started to catch on." He couldn't hide in Freddy's room, because Freddy's room has a camera in it, and Vanessa who is Vanny has access to all of the cameras. There are camera everywhere in the Pizzaplex that's why Freddy told him to keep moving at the start of the game when he failed to escape in time. "His primary goal was to get out of the pizzaplex and away from Vanessa/Vanny. instead he ran around like a pint-sized vandal, breaking everything and eventually destroying the whole pizzaplex." Yeah and he failed to escape in time because the shutters closed at 12AM. Freddy showed him two other possible exits, which failed because with one he needed to be a VIP and the other required him having 7 security passes when he only had 2. Also he wasn't breaking everything the only things he destroyed where the animatronics, which he destroyed because they where trying to murderer him and he needed their upgrades so Freddy could protect him better(especially since Freddy couldn't see Vanny without Roxy's eyes.) Also he did not destroy the Pizzaplex, the Pizzaplex was destroyed by an earthquake caused by the Blob, which happened after Gregory left with Freddy and Vanessa. And even if he did so what? That place was being used by Vanny and Mimic to kill kids. "Not once thinking "if Freddy's this nice to me on safe mode, maybe the others would be too" or anything else logical." He didn't even know that Freddy was on safe mode because Freddy never mentioned it. His only explanation as to why Freddy isn't trying to kill him like the others were was him saying, "For some reason, you're different." and even if Freddy told him Freddy's the only one of the two of them who knows about and would be able to get a Faz wrench. You should be angry at Freddy for not bringing those up. "Hell, technically the whole thing could have been avoided if he, I don't know, CALLED THE FUCKING COPS???" Did you see a phone anywhere in SB? Also are you really assuming that Vanny didn't do anything to prevent Gregory from calling the police or anyone from outside the building who could help him? Especially when at the start of the game when Freddy finds Gregory he tries to contact the main office, but can't because someone(Vanny) blocked his signal. If Freddy couldn't contact anyone, then I highly doubt a phone would have worked even if Gregory had or managed to find one.
man the"therapists" are so strange. I cant imagine it to be anything other than bad writing or that they're not actual therapists and are interrogating both Vannessa and Ggy. Therapists are not supposed to be acting the way they do in the tapes, multiple times they seem to guilt and try to tick off the patients. Dr. Rabbit my goat... LMAO
To be fair fazbear ent. Is known for how much they cheap out on everything. I doubt if any of those 'therapists' have any degree in psychology at all, they seem more like college dropouts who got hired by fazbear becouse they don't want as much money as a real proffesional
my current theory (which kind of goes along with my absolutely no-evidence "theory" that anything beyond pizza sim, in universe, is a very large money laundering scheme) fazbear entertainment is using/sponsored by betterhelp "therapists" for their company-issued therapy
Funny you should mention that. I have a friend who actually does have a degree in mental health. And she says the way they behave breaks so many codes of ethics. Among these is patient confidentiality, as shown by one therapist who went through Vanessa's personal history and her previous session. Combined with a line that the last therapist says ("Listen. I'm on your side."), it is more akin to a line used by police during interrogations, leading the two of us to believe that they were not proper therapists. Instead, people were hired by Fazbear to drill Gregory and Vanessa for information about what's going on around the Pizzaplex. Just so you know, in GGY, they were described as student counselors, not therapists. My friend says that those are two different things that require two different degrees. And while, yes, it is possible they could have gotten both, she found it is very unlikely.
Exactly. This whole mystery with Gregory wasn’t necessary and ruins his whole story. The “robot” and “patient 46” things weren’t necessary and Gregory just should’ve been a kid who either saw too much or got away from someone that tried to kill him
Not me..I'm honestly so tired of it..I feel most are. It's so lazy and annoying when creators do this especially after the insane flood of it for years. I don't feel I'm the only one since this channel and Phelous were the only two I'm subscribed to who did. He even made it clear it was a dumb April fool vid from the title card. I do agree with the sentiment about videos meant to share stuff but not bask in attention or monetization. That's all most uploaded are about despite what they claim to avoid the negativity of it all. Seeing a creator admit and share in that frustration is rare and awesome. It is kind of sad that it may be now taken as a joke or maybe was all along..its hard not to group all youtubers into one camp of greedy shilling Donald Trumps and celebrity wannabees so I light up when one proves themselves more than that.
@@buddyzilla4557From what I can gather, you seem to be upset that the genuine sentiment of "FNaF, as well as online content, have gradually changed from genuine creations to mass-produced products" is treated as a joke. However, I don't see why it can't be both a joke AND a genuine message. You also seem to not like that the video isn't clearly labelled as an April Fools video, but like... Isn't that the entire point? While I'm personally not super fond of pranking people myself, I think it's fine to have some fun doing so as long as it's not hurting anyone, especially on the day literally made for it.
The reason Doctor Rabbit was taking kids from Freddy Fazbear’s Pizzerias across the globe was because he knew the danger Monty’s Mystery Mix posed to preteen dental health. GGY was the hero after all.
I wonder what actually goes in that mix. We might randomly get answers in one of the books. Though we probably won't, and it'll forever remain a mystery. hehe SAD FACE
I still think the people who hate Gregory because he destroyed the animatronics were dumb. If you were getting hunted by animatronics, yea you would probably fight back against them and Gregory is completely in his right to attack them
I have no particular stance on Gregory(/GGY as Gregory) except thinking it's the usual fnaf book crap and that his voice/personality is annoying. However... I do just want to mention the people who think Gregory was in the right for destroying the glamrocks + upgrading Freddy (or something like that) sound exactly like the same kind of unreasonably combative weirdos that say [Fight] is a reasonable answer of the player/protagonist in Undertale monster encounters. Which is- not the greatest look, imo.
@@Depressed_Dandelion That is a false equivalence. In Undertale you are given the option to be merciful and many characters go out of their way not to hurt you. The animatronics in Security Breach will attack no matter what you do and destroying some them is necessary to achieve the "canon ending". Also the monsters in Undertale are generally much nicer towards Frisk than the animatronics in Security Breach are to Gregory. Most of them read as just people going about their lives not constantly attacking machines.
@@XimiBell you misunderstand. I wasn't arguing the situation is the same, I was arguing that the people who say the "fight/destroy/kill" option is fine and reasonable and logical and even the expected thing to do, in either game, _sound_ the same. I could try and make my brain Think™ and genuinely try and analyze what the hell is going on with Gregory in Security Breach, and then we could sit here and have A Genuine Conversation and Theorizing™ (because nothing in FNAF is real and/or set in stone as factual lore or story, and every new addition to the franchise is free to do what it wants with retconing every single aspect of literally everything) but... what for, lmao.
G.G.Y stands for Groovy Grievous’ Yacht, he bought it after working at the Krusty Krabs for a hundred millennia. Groovy Grievous was once the great general of the Separatists army who fought the Republic. After being defeated by Obi-Wan Kenobi, he woke up decades later, found his mask from the dead Grand Admiral Thrawn, and worked for the Krusty Krabs, and worked for a hundred millennia, bought a yacht, then met Phantom Freddy and Phantom Bonnie who didn’t work at the Fazbear Fright Night attraction. They became a trio working for RXQ/ShadowToyBonnie at the Shadow Junk Shop. There! :)
At the end of the day, I think Gregory is an abrasive kid who's had a rough life whom has had to play defensive his whole life, so he hits first and hits harder. Before they get a chance to hit him.
Seriously. While his writing isn't great, having been a foster kid, I did recognize some of my foster siblings in him. Hurt; angry, and hurting before he could be hurt.
It's funny because that's literally the plot of the games? The Wizard is Mimic1, the Supervillain was Burntrap, the monster was Tangle. It's telling the story here.
@@Jesterman the end of GGY has Gregory writing fan fiction basically. GGy was the apprentice of a wizard from another world, and they're working together to take down a corporate conspiracy. By the end, the wizard transforms himself into an animatronic supervillain and fights a tentacle monster. This is like the only time Tangle himself is referenced outside the corpse pile. The Wizard is Mimic1/Glitchtrap and Gregory is his apprentice. Eventually, Glitchtrap is able to enter The Mimic body and become Burntrap (the animatronic supervillain) and clashes with Tangle Blob (The Tentacle Monster).
@@at_witts_end3470 Oh, you were talking about book to game lore stuff. I don't really care about the lore relevance of the books, I just think they're bad books and not interesting to read.
@@Jesterman they're extremely relevant, however you look at it and plenty of the tales are good. GGY, Dittophobia, The Mimic, and The Storyteller are very investing and explain the lore of SB and even FNaF 4 and SL
5:20 I don't think the therapists in the tapes are actually therapists, I mean they're very unprofessional, they have this sassy/snarky remark to them especially to Vanessa, they randomly bring up Vanessa's traumatic childhood without any warning. I think these "therapists" are spies that are working with Fazbear Entertainment or working with the law. It makes sense they're trying to find out more about Vanessa and Gregory and possibly trying to figure out how the Glitchtrap virus is affecting them as it's clear that Fazbear Entertainment is aware of it. Lastly when one of spies find out about Gregory and his GGY stuff she speaks very softly to him and saying that she's on his side. This seems like spy or a police interrogation trying to get on the good side of the criminal so the interrogation is successful.
Admittedly, yeah - I've generally considered Gregory to be 12 myself, but I think someone said the book leaned toward him being 15? and yeah, he does seem rather tiny. In the Glamdroids comic I've mentioned, rather than a stomach hatch, Gregory hides in a pizza box delivery bag of Freddy's. And the panel of him climbing back in for Freddy to carry him through the utility tunnels... yeah, still about as small as the cake hatch. Figured he must be a good contortionist. Side note, but speaking of malnourished, I read a fic of a 21 yr old woman who snuck into her parents house, only to find a scrawny dirty toddler in the empty house - a sister she never even knew of. Realizing their mom called the kid 'broken' for not being enough like her first-born, and receiving documents on the kid born at 4.78 pounds with her birth rushed to be on March 13th with a rumor of good luck, she vowed to amend for this neglect and give her sister a good life.
Books lean towards him being 12, The 14/15 is his assumed age in Security Breach (due to there being 1-2 year gap betwen GGY and the base game of Security Breach)
I heard that they uncovered some voice lines. One that I find very interesting is the, "Your teeth are a part of me," line which seems to imply that Gregory was possessed by haunted implants.
In the last moments of the story ggy Greg says to Tony say yes we’ll get you all cheered up, so that means he tried to lure Tony to the pizzaplex but I don’t think it’s ever confirmed if Tony goes to the pizzaplex and even if he does it’s never confirmed if he’s killed, so what if steel wool make a another dlc for security breach but we play as Tony who instead of being killed by doctor rabbit but instead imprisoned under the complex for a long time but now has a chance to escape since the pizzaplex is abandoned and everything, during he journey he finds Bonnie and actually manages to slightly repair him enough to just function and move around, so Tony and Bonnie then try to find both Gregory and Freddy.
“Waifus and Woobies” 🤣 I used to think that Gregory was a child actor who worked for Fazbear Entertainment and performed in their commercials, training videos, etc. and he ran away from home to hide out in the Pizzaplex. Gregory wasn’t “evil”, he probably wanted to get away from his parents but also find some sort of dirt on Fazbear Entertainment so as to have leverage to get out of his contract and so his parents would let him stop working for Fazbear Entertainment. Personally I don’t think he and Cassie are 12 just yet, voices aren’t changing. Probably about 9 to 11 years. Gregory only wrecked the animatronics in self defense. Vanessa wasn’t evil either, she was either mind controlled by the Glitchtrap virus that infected her mind after Help Wanted, or she could have gone crazy from working at Fazbear Entertainment in general. Gregory had met Cassie at her birthday party after being stood up and nobody coming to her party, due to her classmates being too scared to attend. She told Gregory about the rumors of Fazbear Entertainment, so he decided to hide in the Pizzaplex to investigate. After Security Breach, he probably asked her to meet him there, but Cassie didn’t get the message until it was in ruins. I doubt that Gregory was ever there in RUIN, the Mimic sabotaged the elevator power source as it imitated Gregory’s voice one last time to mock her before causing the elevator to crash. These are just my theories, I could be wrong.
I imagine that Gregory only had access to studies because Glitch would have controlled him for it and obtained contact with Vanessa's therapists. This would only have been possible if FAZBEAR had run a kind of campaign to “rescue” orphans just to clean up its image and practically say: “Look how good we are, it shows that your horrible stories about us are nothing but lies.” But the idea of him being a kind of “poster boy” is interesting hahahahaha, it could be that he was an advertiser for the FAZBEAR campaign. I use Cassie as an anchor for Gregory and Cassie's age; in fact, I think by RUIN, they are both 13 and under. I believe he is still just an orphan who suddenly arrived at the Pizzaplex (in this case without knowing his past) and caused all that chaos. I agree that it seems a little inappropriate for Gregory to have knocked over the elevator, but we'll see what happens.
"Gregory's outside again" 😂 Freddy get yo kid I have to say I like ggy and Afton cult angle, though not for a kid villian- as he wouldn't be a villain, but another victim, under Williams(glitchbitchs) thumb as Michael supposedly was. The psychological horror and not even really remembering what he was forced to do, what he possibly made Freddy do, and made to help corral in Vanessa; there's a lot of interesting aspects a storyline like that could go
I just finished dsaf 3 and dear God, that game had peak writing. If I was more sentimental I would’ve cried in the phone guys’s backstories. Thanks for helping me mate.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Also, i didn’t expand the restaurant, there was only the hallway and the dining area, and there were no lawsuits, springlock failures or people walking into aurora borealises!
@@Kirkieb Basically, there’s a chance that you will get a lawsuit that a customer vaporized because they walked into an aurora borealis in your restaurant.
I don't really get the Greg hate, and honestly, I'm interested to see what happens to his relationship with cassie and if any more of Greg's ggy friends will appear.
Honestly before ggy I had a theory that someone was pretending to be Gregory and trying to frame him. A scary/dark thought I had is what if Gregory wasn’t even under the glitchtrap virus and was just naturally evil but somehow lost his memories and that’s why he’s good now. And what if Tony was the one who broke Gregory free from glitchtrap. 7:48 why did this part scare me 😅😂🤣.
hahahaha, after GGY I theorized (I thought at least) that Gregory had a twin brother and that he was the one causing problems, Gregory was mad at him and that would be the origin of his "abrasive" personality hahahahaha. Personally, I think there's a chance Cassie's father was responsible for Gregory's release.
I’ve never understood people who hate Gregory. (For some reason) I enjoy his character a lot! Dispight apparent flaws I think his character is a lot better than people give him credit for.
The School Councilors being Fazbear employees might have something to it. Between the Faz Apartments, school sponsorships and other things, it seems like Steel Wool's version of Fazbear Inc is a parody of, or reference to, the mega corps of the industrial revolution. IRL, during the late 19th and early 20th century, many big companies [Ford is an example, look up fordlandia for the most ambitious dystopia] would create "company towns", where the grocery stores, restaurants, schools, hospitals, housing, EVERYTHING was owned and controlled by the company, to keep as much money in-house [since the employees, usually of a factory, had to get everything from the company, as mail-order was still in its infancy]. Even the cops were just security guards or hired goons. It seems to be implied that Fazbear Inc is doing something similar, providing animatronic equipped apartments for its employees, influencing the education of the local children [including those of employees like Cassie] and even data-mining customer's lives with the Rental Service[s]
Do you think that lefty could be a refurbished carnie? This is a very long shot, im talkin 100 yard football kick, but it's just some fun thoughts that could conjure up something in the community. If you look at burnt carnie's model, you can just barely see that his right eye is more withered. You may have to squint. But say that at that time his right eye got replaced because it was the most damaged of the two, after decades of collecting dust and rotting away, the untouched eye could have decayed to the point of becoming black. As Henry repared carnie to become lefty, the original eye may have stayed or been replaced with a new black eye for a unique touch. A more realistic approach could be the lefty's design is INSPIRED by his burnt orginal. The eye rotted eye i just mentioned could have inspired the black eye detail. One specific character of that I think could drive home this theory is the color. Burnt carnie is a muted brown with white char accents. But if you were to scrape all of burnt plastic off, you be left with a black tarnished metal. Notice that lefty is not solid black, but a metalic, gun metal black. I think it is possibe that lefty is either a repaired version of carnie, with it's new design based on the chared scraps of the original, or lefty was a completely different animatronic who's build was inspired by the remains of his counterpart. By the location of Fazer Blast and hint we see, I think that carnie was most likely a part of Fall Fest(most likely the 1970 event) if so, do you think it's possible that carnie was one of Henry's first animatronics. That was a whole decade before our first look at fredbears. Whether or not Fredbear's opened before 1983. I highly doubt that it was an establishment before 1970. I noticed that there is no sign of Freddy’s or Fredbear's on the poster. Which leads me to believe that this fall fest may have predated everything. The running theory is that the mediocre melodies were his first animatronics, made to rip off Freddy’s fame. But being that we see an animatronic a decade before that, that closely resembles one of his final animatronics. It really seems that carnie could be his first. Here's some food for thought. Henry has been deemed a copycat in the early timeline for the mediocre melodies. But if he made his first BEAR animatronic at a children's theme event in 1970, is he really the copycat? If William stole the idea and made Fredbear's, and Fredbear's became as big as it did. No one would bat an eye at a small carnival with a simple bear animatronic. I don't know if I like this idea, but I'm just throwing everything I got to see what sticks. Is it possible that William set the carnival on fire to one, preventing it from becoming more successful. And two, to take that idea and reuse it for himself. I don't think he was pure evil at this point, or really evil at all. But it's still just a thought. I don't really think that lefty is a remade carnie. I think it's possible that the design could have been inspired by the withered design. But I doubt that they put that much thought into a connection like that. I am pretty confident, though, that carnie was most likely the first and that Henry was never really the copycat. But more so, tried to reclaim the ideas stolen from him later on after William's fame.
lol I love your image for Tony Edit: I don’t even know what exactly this video was trying to tell me but I was hooked so deeply into it that I was genuinely offended for a second when the video ended with “April fools” 😂
That is why I just hated the story GGY revealing that Gregory was the hacker, it has basically nothing to do with him it’s just full of plot holes when you stop to think about it. If Gregory really was possessed by something and was hacking the building all alone, what was the point of Vanny? And I read online that the books took so long to release because some were being completely rewritten before Ruin. So they could’ve just rewrote everything hoping nobody would notice.
One of the things I didn't add is that Gregory is supposedly such a great hacker, but in GGY, another girl from Tony's school just casually hacks the animatronics for fun and finds out their codes been changed. I think whoever wrote the books just has a very optimistic look at our future youth, lol.
Gregory's backstory is still a shrouded mystery today with little hints given on him in Security Breach and a bit in the RUIN DLC. If we get another FNAF game with Gregory, Vanessa, and Glamrock Freddy I feel like it would be a chance to expand more upon their characters with everything the Steel Wool team had to cut out due to time in Security Breach.
After the bite, Gregory went into a fifty year long coma. During which he didn't age because he was injected with Remnant and it sustained him. Then he woke up and, finding that his family was no more, he went to the Pizzaplex as he was technically the heir to the Fazbear throne.
Edit: I do have to correct you at one point about the therapists. The reason people believe Gregory is Patient 46 is because the therapists go missing in game just like they do in the books, with one even being found dead with another therapist saying that they looked like they had been mauled by machinery. The amount of therapists that go missing also match GGY. GGY has three therapists going missing, wheres SB has four therapists going missing, with the last hinting that she is going to follow them because she has gotten too close to the truth. They also mention that one of the therapists does work with children. Also this is Fazbear Entertainment. I wouldn't put it past them to try and get away with child labour. xD Especially if the kid in question is really good with technology like it is mentioned in the tapes. A phenom. Hell, Gregory himself probably isn't the reason he's considered a phenom. The virus - whether it really is William or the Mimic imitating him - is made out of code and would know how it got there. It learned how to infect the tapes, and it learned how to get out. It would be the one to know how to hack things. Although the existence of the M.X.E.S. and just who made it (be it Cassie's dad (I doubt that one), Vanessa, or Gregory since his backpack is down there), could also be called into question. I also gotta add that it would make perfect sense for Glitchtrap to possess a child - he'll be surrouned by the very audience he targets. Not only that, but Gregory is insanely fast, (as shown between SB and Ruin, where Cassie is slow as hell compared to him.) is thought by some of the girls in his grade as 'cute', and is light enough that he can get through the vents without breaking them, unlike Cassie. (Although this could just be game logic since Outlast (for example) allows you to crawl through vents when they wouldn't be able to support an adult's weight.) He would also be able to easily lure away other kids and adults away from crowded areas. And I mean really, a child would be perfect! What are you going to think if you see a kid in a Staff only area? Are you going to think they were out for blood, or are you just going to assume that they either got lost or are up to no good? Are you going to call the police, or are you simply going to kick them out and scold them for being where they shouldn't? What would you do if you saw a kid with a knife? Would you think they wanted to hurt someone? Or would you think 'that's dangerous', and take it from them and scold them for having something so dangerous on their person, especially if they put up an act of obliviousness. You would be surpised how much a person can get away with something because they look a certain way, especially if it's a kid. And anyway, if I had to be honest... we have more evidence that Greogry is GGY than we do that Michael is Mike Schmit, Fritz Smith, or the guy that works at Fazbear's Fright. And yet, a lot of people believe that that is irrefutably canon. There. I said it. But no one's ready for THAT conversation. Anyway, here's my original comment: But really, GGY makes me sad. It’s SUCH a good concept for a character, especially since he’s a child. Having some crazy murderer (the real one or a virus impersonating him) that went after children deciding to possess a child to continue doing his evil deeds is so insidious and I love it! What a good story idea and way to make you hate William (cause I stand with the idea that Glitchtrap was always meant to be William, but now Steel Wool’s backtracked and trying to say it was the Mimic the whole time) even more. I firmly believe that if this had been SB’s initial backstory/mystery and it had come out in working condition, it would have been a baller FNaF game from right out of the gate. Especially since we could’ve played as Vanessa. (As hinted from her scrapped sounds in the files). Hell, if we were just to focus on GGY, the old trailers make more sense. Vanny telling Gregory his friends are worried for him? Vanny telling him she was sorry for losing her temper and saying it was just a glitch? (By saying this, that implies Gregory knows what’s wrong with her/knows who’s really talking.) Hell, it screams a lot about his character that he went out of his way to save Vanessa rather than kill her like Freddy told him to, and with GGY in play, it makes even more sense. They’ve been taken advantage of and have been used to commit terrible crimes! It would be such a good plot. But that is all ‘what if’ and ‘what was’. 😔 That’s not the story we got, and I’m sad because in the right hands it would have been great. I just hope the concept doesn’t get dropped off the face of the Earth and is handled with care and explained in game through clues or something if it came back. Edit: Also! We were never told or hinted as to how Gregory got away from the virus. For all we know he could be like a sleeper agent.
I really want a fnaf timeline video that only uses info that can be found in the games. Im curious what the timeline would look like if we just ignored the books entirely. Im also curious about how many plot holes there would be as a result.
Aight fine, I'll say it, you genuinely got me. 3:01 Wait, is that one of the old DA fancomics from back in the day? The name is familiar. Also, that did remind me of another fnaf fancomic with springtrap and all, but I can't remember its name for the life of me. Iirc it was referenced in the first Dsaf but that's as far as I can remember. And yeah, as I said, you got me, I was genuinely intrigued and all. 19:55 Yeah I'm pretty sure I will from now on lol. Damn, I kinda want to watch some ytps now. Happy April Fools!
Happy April Fools! It was a pretty popular Fnaf comic that floated around for a while. I think I read part of it when it was coming out back in... whenever that was, lol. XD
On 2:53, you might not be wrong considering Cassie is probably the same grade as Gregory, 7th grade and the age range for 7th grader is 12 to 13 and considering Cassie was mentioned having a birthday she’s probably thirTEEN, a teenager. Honestly, Cassie is more believable because her voice actually sounds in her tweens/early teens while Gregory sounds like he’s still in elementary school.
Gregory could be heavily malnourished since he's a homeless orphan teen, so it makes sense why he looks so young, how ever for his voice, it's common with victims of trauma and abuse that their voice will "stop developing" from the age of said trauma so maybe it's that?
I don't hate Gregory, he's a scared kid locked inside a Pizza Plex with people who are after him for nefarious purposes. Hell, he doesn't trust Vammessa outright which implies she dragged him to the pizzaplex, locked him up and he escaped. Said person is using hiant robots to hunt him down on their behalf, so yeah I dont blame the kid for defending himself by scrapping the bots. Personally, I wish there had been a way to break the hold Gliychtrap and Vanessa had on the Glamrocks, like Gregory finds out about Mexus and uses it to deprogram the bots one by one or something not realising that Mexus is a bit of a douche or something idk.
Thank you for trying to clear gregorys name because when venassa was mind controlled she was not given as much hate and yet when gregory does it hes treated like the worst person ever. Hell ever avryone is ok with what afton is and still doing. Basically what im saying is most of the fnaf community is toxix. Most not all. And for no good reason people hate henry more then afton.
I like Gregory just being a child trapped in a mall with dangerous animatronics that he destroys much more than him being some brainwashed killer. He’s, like, ten and a total gremlin, which is entertaining to witness. I also don’t know why people think he’s GGY, who I thought was some high school-age kid. I mean, I’m 4’10, but even I wouldn’t be able to fit in Freddy. Let Gregory be a mischievous child who has to defend himself, it’s funnier that way.
5:25 Somebody's probably already pointed this out to you but... This point is flawed because the therapists are obviously hired in a freelance style, the Retro CDs make this clear. "I don't just work with corporations, I work with individuals and small groups. I even work in schools. I'm wherever I'm needed." - the third therapist in CD 12 Vanessa's could've been mandated to seek therapy by the company if she acted out in some way that showed she needed mental health care (Like in FNAF AR when she ordered thumbscrews to the office and Luis said it looked like a cry for help.) employers can ask you to do that if they don't wanna immediately fire you for acting out, and can provide internal employee records to assist the therapist if authorized, since the reason for counseling is associated with the patient's job. This does not mean the therapists are direct employees of fazbear. The first therapist saying "everyone associated with this company gets performance reviews" doesn't mean Fazbear is the company doing the reviews, I think CD12 is stronger evidence that the therapists aren't just working under a corporation.
Should've brought up chara / frisk again during the 'kids being evil' part! Lmao. I think the best example of a kid villain would be Sid from toy story. He's not evil, just a bit of a bullying troublemaker who likes to mess with toys.
Everything up until the 'secret Dr. Rabbit' stuff was an actual Fnaf take. XD The Gregory stuff is in the games/books, and those are my real thoughts on them. Then Dr. Rabbit showed up. Dr. Rabbit comes first.
To my knowledge, the Tales from the Pizzaplex books were being written at roughly the same time that Security Breach was being developed (if not earlier)… also to my knowledge, the Tales from the Pizzaplex books are canon to the games, but the Fazbear Frights ones aren’t.
Considering that Security Breach's story was totally gutted, especially the Vanessa stuff (look at the cut lines, they're crazy!), that doesn't bode too well. XD All I know is when asking about the books canonicity, Scott made the Mangle joke. Wasn't a yes... Well that and Fazbear Fright's Trashpile Afton was pretty clearly the rabbit entity in the original Princess Quest (the one at the end of the Help Wanted one), so who knows.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Yeah… but also, with the timeline put forward in Fazbear Frights, it’s pretty much impossible for both that and the games timeline to exist at the same time (except maybe the one theory that the Stitchwraith Stingers and the stories related to them happen after Security Breach & Ruin)… plus, the weird Glitchtrap amalgamation-looking thing has more similarities to the Blob (or Tangle or whatever its name is) than to the Afton Amalgamation, and that’s on top of the Afton Amalgamation being actually possessed by Afton as opposed to Glitchtrap being the Mimic just pretending to be Afton.
In my opinion the whole ggy thing and Gregory being a robot is the most controversial opinions in this community tbh Yk? Also what would be a video idea I would like to see is maybe a video on the springlock suits or something related to that like Mr Illistrated,s descriptive springlock failure video. Does this mean that Dr Rabbit is a standin for William Afton?
(19:54) I’ll probably think of the cursed rabbit I mentioned that wore the Pride Trooper uniform. (20:14) Also XD, I wanna see variations of this please, also the music makes it x2 better too.
I'd like to offer the unpopular opinion that all the games prior to SB are games in-universe, and the books written during that time are equally... well, just books.
I ve had this video in my playlist for months now, i save fnaf vids as a treat to work with to do tasks that need more motivation. I cannot explain my confusion as ytps are introduced thinking a conservative Christian man would have been into [PINGAS] or any of his authors would be wanting to make A YTP referenc[eenenemenenemenemec]e SO[S] plot Heavy
Man, the 2000s internet was paradoxically both an infinitely more offensive yet also more *innocent* place. The internet has gotten both more Puritanical, and devolved into an engine of harrassment and ruining lives. Little is ever created anymore, little is even allowed to exist outside a set of corporate walled gardens. Flash being discontinued was the worst thing to ever happen to the internet.
Gregory might have broken free fornplating Princess Quest. And that's why he was stopping and using his time to survive in order play Proncess Quest while Vanny was chasing him.
the thing is, as much as I like gregory and his GGY thing he has going on, it makes me dread the future of the franchise. The only other interesting possessed by glitchtrap character WAS Vanny. And now she's not, which could add a lot of interesting laye- oh who am I kidding they're not gonna do that for gregory or Vanessa are they?
You could tackle so many cool topics with this too! Does Gregory remember his days as Rab? Does he remember Tony? If he does, does he think it's real? Could he think they're just dreams, or maybe he doesn't remember doing anything along those lines. Or perhaps Vanessa remembers (Assuming Princess Quest is canon, which it probably is, and that Gregory lives with her) she could see him trying to cut something with a knife and has a mini-panic or something and Gregory thinks 'huh, that's... weird.'
Thank you for this one. I read GGY and was all prepared for it to explain everything and then it...did not. I wasn't even totally convinced the Greg in the story was under Glitchtrap's control. (It's implied, for sure, but not clearly, and...I have trouble extrapolating.)
4:42 similarly, the Glamrocks' initials of FF, MG, CC, RW can be seen on some cabinets, most notably the PQ ones. If Gregory's breaking the high scores, wouldn't this mean the animatronics play the games?
That missing children incident evolving 6 victims is William Afton during FNAF 2 Mini-games. He kidnapped children from a various places And then bring them to the pizzeria at night for experiments. That's why the restaurant in FNAF 2 shut down.
Watching this a day late and having it on in the background zoning out was... an interesting choice that I definitely made hearing half the shit I heard until I was just like "Oh this is probably an April Fool's vid isn't it" though I definitely had to check the date to be sure because the FNAF lore do be a little quirky at night.
SO GLAD I'M NOT ALONE THINKING OF THE KOLGATE CARTOON HECK Don't ask HOW or WHY it was chosen for the weekly rental but I remember it being brought home on VHS for the weekend. It possibly might have been picked up but my grandmother but I have a slight doubt because I remember the same grandmother also tricking me that if I brushed my teeth enough times during the day they'd glow in the dark. Can confirm Dr. Rabbit made it to Blockbuster though, even though it feels like a "someone switched the tapes at Hollywood Video" incident. LOL Holy shit I feel old remembering that.
oh mate i wasn't expecting that of a bring back i woke up in the middle of the night to watch this and i will definitely sleep well after this dr rabbit will always be in our hearts amazing job buddy
2:42 see, that’s what I don’t understand! I genuinely do not believe he’s 12! I refuse to believe it! I’d much rather believe he was just a lost child as young as eight (Yeah, big advocate for Gregory here and as a fan 😅) it’s one of the reasons why I don’t like this story. I hate the hacker bit so much.
I don't see any way he could be twelve. I think he was just aged up for the story because a lot of FF/Tales books tend to involve middle schoolers-high schoolers.
Honestly? Gregory being about that age despite being so small isn't that unbelievable to me. And he wouldn't be the only FNAF character, either. *The Monty Within*'s main character Kane had a younger brother who was said to be thirteen and looked half it. For a real-world example, actor John Franklin was twenty-four when he played the kid character Isaac Conner in the 1984 adaption of the Stephen King novel, *Children of the Corn*. If you look at pictures of him in the movie, he does not look twenty-four thanks to a genetic condition that stunted his growth. Wouldn't surprise me if Greg was suffering from the same thing. So yeah. Gregory being a small teen? Not that hard to believe. At least for me.
Plot Twist: The username “GGY” does not stand for Gregory. It stands for “Get Good, YOLO”
This is likely the work of the absolute pro gamer, Toy Freddy. But y’all ain’t ready for that conversation yet.
No wait ur right
No, it means Groovy Grievous Yacht.
Goddam Gregory Youbastard
It's me.
@@ToyFreddyGaming1987
It’s you!
Hearing you say "Hope she made lotsa spaghetti!" Is probably the highlight of my day.
Honestly, the analysis was neat, but it was lovely just hearing you talk so warmly about ytp and your memories of them. They hold a special place in our hearts
3:00 We don’t talk about Del-I-ah-ah, no we don’t talk about Del-I-ah-ah
I was today years old when I learned it wasn't pronounced De-lie-lah
@@bluestrangler0447 You know what? Y’all are forcing my hand, it’s time to read this comic and see what’s in it. All I know is the usual “author’s poorly disguised fe****” and purple guy is Vincent (Vincent>Afton fight me)
@@salt_factory7566 Honestly it's not worth it, I rewatched a dub of it like a week before all the gross shit came out about it (terrible timing I know) and it's just disturbing. Also yes we Stan Vincent
Love this, actual question: why is the lilac rabbit graffiti at the beginning of ruin so low to the ground? In SB it’s at Vanny’s head height in the burn trap ending, but in ruin it’s at Cassie’s shoulder height and below. In graffiti language, it being in top of other marks makes it a symbol of territorial authority, but I think it’s also a clue that the Identity of Vanny has shifted or been passed down to Gregory.
Admittedly, In Space 3's Glamrock Bonnie doesn't seem as disconnected to Ruin's Bonnie as I once thought (perhaps I just never got a good closeup...). Some bits I see somewhat of a match of include the hair tuft, earring, chest star and general body shape.
It often feels off for the bowling alley to have an indigo Classic looking Bonnie advertised when it doesn't match the Glamrock, and they don't do similar with a yellow Chica art around the bakery or something. The alleys entrance was in that atrium screenshot, maybe they didn't want to reveal his design (assuming he had one then)?
Aside from the indigo vs paler blue (also affects the bowling screen gifs), my other issue is how the messages set up Glamrock Bonnie having claws like Monty to play bass, and the Ruin design doesn't even look to have them. Even the bowling sign guy has little nails...
I never thought of that design as Bondage Bonnie. Looks like something else to add to my Fizzy pill hot take...
And following in the (bear)footsteps of Freddy, he has no pants. Perhaps those 2 truly are meant for each other...
(7:58) He want’s actual Tacos, not Taco from Taco Bell. Stilly NotRealName. What happened was that the Mimic endo/Scorch Bunny/or Aubergine Man got angry at G.G.Y for bringing him Taco from Taco Bell, and he decides to no longer control G.G.Y, and G.G.Y reverted back to Gregory. Confused, he ran away. the Mimic endo/Scorch Bunny/or Aubergine Man was like “Oh crappio, what have I done?” And sends Vanessa after her. That was one of the cut content from Security Breach.
19:39 Why does Dr. Rabbit look like that?!? Wtf???!!
In Help Wanted 2, there is another mention of GGY through an achievement you can get if you beat all the games with a high enough score. And if GGY is canon, it provides a good reason for the existance of the arcade game in the Daycare attendants trashed room that shows balloon boy. Vanessa was freed when princess quest was beaten, so who's to say Gregory wasn't freed when the balloon boy game was beaten.
I disagree with you saying that GGY has no reason to show up in the future. That plot absolutely can if Steel Wool chooses to. Cassie is likely going to be the new Vanny in whatever next installation comes around, and last she knew, Gregory betrayed her. He didn't actually, but in a new game he can discover the truth about GGY, and use that information to free Cassie and clear up that he never betrayed her.
“Bondage Bonnie is in the game.”
Geez Freddy I knew the animatronics got quirky at night but-
i saw this comment before watching the video and thought: oh, must be an ar skin i missed. never in my life did i expect what the search results would be
I find it funny that under the span of almost 10 years, we went from speculating there was two killers because of sprite differences, to now arguing whether time travelling ball pits, pink goo and robot children are actually canon.
Pink Guy and Purple Guy, LolBit, nostalgia. Funny how that concept was used for the Day Shift fan series.
The ball pit doesnt even time travel
@@januszjanusz536 I seriously hope it's just a memory of the past taken shape and not literal time travel.
yeah i'm missing those days of fnaf having an almost coherent and planned story line
@@prcervi Fr
I think that Gregory was originally meant to be the sole survivor of Vanny’s own MCI or DCI, or at the very least he was the only kid she targeted that managed to escape, in the teaser trailer for SB Vanny brings up Gregory’s friends and that their worried about him, while we can hear Gregory making shaking breathing noises and sniffling, perhaps he either saw Vanny kill his friends, or he had just escaped her knowing full well she trying to kill him.
Honestly, you might be right! There is a line that was cut where Vanny tries to lure Gregory out, saying his friends are here and that they'll have fun- that it was just a glitch.
and on the newspaper gregory uses as a blanket in the leave ending has a outline of gregory in the section of missing kids
Okay this is HEAVY speculation territory but yknow, it's fnaf, what can ya do?
I like to think that Glamrock Chica's line where she goes "Your family is looking for you" is related to that unused "Your friends are here with me" voiceline by Vanny.
Chica going "Your family is looking for you" could be referring to Glitchtrap and Vanny looking for him, Glitchtrap has a lot of parallels to Vanessa's dad (made even stronger by having william be her dad in the movie) so I wouldn't be surprised if Gregory was also considered part of their brainwashed bunny found family.
And Vanny saying "Your friends are here with me" is referring to the animatronics... hear me out, Rab seemingly hacked and used them in the GGY book. They could be seen as his friends from Vanny's point of view.
One thing that annoys me with GGY story is that some people actively leave out that Gregory was implied to be brainwashed in the story to make it seem like he’s a psychopathic murderer.
Keep in mind that most people who hate Gregory for destroying the very same animatronics that are trying to kill him, will defend the animatronics by bringing up them being hacked.
because Gregory actively goes against Freddy's wishes and lies to him, on top of not giving a damn about Freddy's feelings the whole night. Gregory doesn't see Freddy as a friend, he sees Freddy as a big metal shield. an object to use for his own benefit. on top of that, we're not given any reason to like Gregory other than the fact he's a lost kid in danger. there were other options at his disposal, but Gregory took what is probably the worst option.
what do you think would have been a much better story? destroying the animatronics to take their parts, or using Freddy's help to turn them against Vanny?
Gregory did see him as a friend, he helped Freddy get in Parts and Service, saved from
Freddy Parts and Service and clearly is upset when Freddy gets shattered.
And if anything destroying animatronics was going with Freddy's wishes, as we see Freddy helping and even telling Gregory to harm his friends he gives tips and advice on how to do so.
After Gregory gets a digital message about Monty's history with the Catwalks, Freddy tells Gregory "Gregory, I do not mean to be intrusive, but I read that message that you found in the security office. There may be a chance to stop Monty from hunting you." Freddy tells him this as Gregory learns that Monty has a history with the Catwalks, basically giving a little hint to Gregory to kill Monty.
Immediately, after you upgrade Freddy he targets Roxy next "Now that I have been upgraded, I should be able to access the Roxy Raceway. I have not been there for a very long time, but perhaps you can find some clues on how to deal with Roxy while you are there." Even though Freddy doesn't directly say to kill them, what does he mean by “deal with” and “stop” after receiving information on how to hurt his friends. He was clearly implying to hurt them but hid it behind a naive persona.
Gregory also does go with Freddy's words and wishes, most of what Gregory does, going to the Daycare, not staying in one spot, going too places in the Pizzaplex to find more security badges and even destroying the Glamrocks is all because Freddy told him to. The only wish Gregory didn't follow was to kill Vanessa/Vanny, in the canon ending, the Princess Quest ending. Freddy is destroyed by Vanny how ever some how Freddy still has a signal and tells Gregory to "Turn them against Vanny" using the Staffbots. This again shows that Freddy has the capability to want to hurt and kill people. Gregory goes against Freddy's words and does the selfless act and saves Vanessa by Glitchtrap. This shows that Gregory isn't some selfish monster, he can care and help people in need.
@@penguinmaster7 first off Gregory didn't lie to Freddy, he told him that Chica and Roxy had accidents he just left out that he caused said accidents. Because who in their right mind would tell the only person who is trying to protect them in that life or death situation that they had to destroy their friends? Now I don't think Freddy would have abandoned Gregory had he know the truth, but given the situation who would risk that?
Second off Gregory clearly cares about Freddy and sees him as a friend, he literally risks his twice for him. The first time is when he had to find the lift controls to get Freddy to parts and service, then after doing all of that he has to risk his life a second time for Freddy after he's taken by Moon. And after freeing Vanessa, Gregory takes Freddy's head to parts and service to repair him, and then leaves the Pizzaplex with Freddy, who does not object to leaving with him. Also Gregory shows clear gratitude to Freddy after saves him from Roxy and Monty.
Third they are trying to murder him, them being Freddy's friends, means nothing when again THEY ARE TRYING TO MURDER HIM. Do you really expect Gregory to put the wellbeing of a bunch of robots that are a clear danger to his own life, just because their Freddy's friends? Plus as far as he knew maintenance workers woud have arrived in the morning. Also as 3nc335 states Freddy seems to give Gregory tips and even some advice on how to get rid of his friend, and in the split Vanny endings he wants Gregory to kill Vanny, he does listen to Freddy most of the time its just that when it comes to his own safety, he's not going to let Freddy's clouded judgement of his friends get him killed.
Forth, so I get we're not supposed to care about either Mike or Jeremy since we know even less about them then we do Gregory(well except maybe Mike if you think the logbook has his entire character written in it, but with Jeremy its close to nothing) other than Mike is William's kid, so I guess we should just let them all be killed by the animatronics.
Fifth, and what could he have done? And if you bring up the Faz wrenches Gregory can't get one because not only does he not know about them, in the main game those are most likely kept under 9 or 10 security doors(and that's assuming Vanny didn't do anything with them since those are the only things that can reboot the animatronics), and he can only get ahold of 8 security passes. Thanks for not bringing the Faz wrenches up Freddy you would have saved Gregory and your friends a lot of trouble.
I honestly prefer Gregory destroying the animatronic. I like how he goes from being completely helpless against them, with his only way of surviving against them is running and hiding and hopping they don't catch him or see where he hid, to using messages he finds to help him fight back. He's the first protagonist to actually fight back, and I like that. People turning on the person who was controlling them has been done to death, and would have been way to much of a happy ending for a FNAF game. Also being able to fix the animatronics would have killed what little fear factor and any tension SB had.
@@3nc335 i didn't get any of that off of Gregory. all I saw was some little brat with a slap-worthy attitude exploiting a bear for his own benefit. Freddy explocitly tells Gregory to NOT hurt his friends, and even acts horrified when finding out where his upgrades came from. when Freddy comments on what the upgrades can be used for, it's not him telling Gregory to get them, it's him thinking out loud. there is absolutely nothing that points to Freddy actively encouraging Gregory to damage his friends.
Gregory acts primarily out of malice towards animatronics as a whole, and barely displays any outwardly positive opinions to Freddy, considering he talks smack whenever Freddy is having a moment. I can't remember a single time Gregory was like "i'm glad you're here" or gave him a genuine "thank you". every time Freddy wanted to talk about something, Gregory would always turn the subject back to him. that's not being a friend to Freddy. the least the brat could do is show some gratitude for an animatronic going as far as to break several rules and risk getting in trouble or scrapped, all for a random kid he barely knows.
let's not forget the fact that Gregory willingly caused millions in property damage specifically for his own benefit. He could have just hid inside Freddy in his room until 6, or moved from spot to spot whenever the others started to catch on. that would have been the smart thing. did he do that? not even close. his primary goal was to get out of the pizzaplex and away from Vanessa/Vanny. instead he ran around like a pint-sized vandal, breaking everything and eventually destroying the whole pizzaplex, not once thinking "if Freddy's this nice to me on safe mode, maybe the others would be too" or anything else logical. Hell, technically the whole thing could have been avoided if he, i don't know, CALLED THE FUCKING COPS???
@@penguinmaster7 "All I saw was some little brat with a slap-worthy attitude exploiting a bear for his own benefit."
How did you get that from their interactions? Gregory wasn't exploiting Freddy, Freddy from the moment he realizes that Gregory needed help, starts trying to help him, even when Gregory doesn't fully trust him. Gregory clearly care a lot about Freddy. Also Gregory isn't a brat.
"Freddy explicitly tells Gregory to NOT hurt his friends."
All Freddy said was, "Gregory those parts belong to my friends, I would never do anything to hurt them." Then he tries to defend them when Gregory points out that they've done nothing but try to kill him, saying that there must be a reason for them to be acting like that while never looking for said reason. Gregory had to make a choice, it was either him or them, he made the obvious choice. Especially when he had no way of rebooting them, and as far as he knew they would have been repaired in the morning.
"Gregory acts primarily out of malice towards animatronics as a whole."
When? If your talking about him saying "They get what they deserve." Keep in mind that he said that when they had been trying to murder him for 4 hours at that point, him saying that is completely reasonable and more than justifiable. Also how dare a kid not care about a bunch of robots that are actively trying to murder him, especially when one of them saying that no one would miss him.
"Barely displays any outwardly positive opinions to Freddy, considering he talks smack whenever Freddy is having a moment."
What are you talking about? He never talked smack, especially when Freddy was having a moment(and those moments were about Bonnie). He would stay quite most likely because either he didn't know what to say to Freddy, or because he thought that if he said anything Freddy would feel worst. I'm starting to question if you've even played SB, or even watched all the cutscenes.
"Every time Freddy wanted to talk about something, Gregory would always turn the subject back to him."
When? When did that happen? That never happened. Gregory never changed the subject to be about himself.
"The least the brat could do is show some gratitude for an animatronic going as far as to break several rules and risk getting in trouble or scrapped, all for a random kid he barely knows."
"Freddy! You save me!" Gregory said gratefully after Freddy saved him from Roxy and Monty. Not to long after that Gregory would return the favor.
Also Freddy is programmed to care about children and their wellbeing, he would be doing this for any child regardless of if he knew them or not, same goes for the other had they been on safe mode.
"Let's not forget the fact that Gregory willingly caused millions in property damage specifically for his own benefit."
I highly doubt it was millions, also how dare Gregory put his wellbeing over the property of a giant corrupt giga corporation. I guess money is more important than a child's life.
"He could have just hid inside Freddy in his room until 6, or moved from spot to spot whenever the others started to catch on."
He couldn't hide in Freddy's room, because Freddy's room has a camera in it, and Vanessa who is Vanny has access to all of the cameras. There are camera everywhere in the Pizzaplex that's why Freddy told him to keep moving at the start of the game when he failed to escape in time.
"His primary goal was to get out of the pizzaplex and away from Vanessa/Vanny. instead he ran around like a pint-sized vandal, breaking everything and eventually destroying the whole pizzaplex."
Yeah and he failed to escape in time because the shutters closed at 12AM. Freddy showed him two other possible exits, which failed because with one he needed to be a VIP and the other required him having 7 security passes when he only had 2. Also he wasn't breaking everything the only things he destroyed where the animatronics, which he destroyed because they where trying to murderer him and he needed their upgrades so Freddy could protect him better(especially since Freddy couldn't see Vanny without Roxy's eyes.) Also he did not destroy the Pizzaplex, the Pizzaplex was destroyed by an earthquake caused by the Blob, which happened after Gregory left with Freddy and Vanessa. And even if he did so what? That place was being used by Vanny and Mimic to kill kids.
"Not once thinking "if Freddy's this nice to me on safe mode, maybe the others would be too" or anything else logical."
He didn't even know that Freddy was on safe mode because Freddy never mentioned it. His only explanation as to why Freddy isn't trying to kill him like the others were was him saying, "For some reason, you're different." and even if Freddy told him Freddy's the only one of the two of them who knows about and would be able to get a Faz wrench. You should be angry at Freddy for not bringing those up.
"Hell, technically the whole thing could have been avoided if he, I don't know, CALLED THE FUCKING COPS???"
Did you see a phone anywhere in SB? Also are you really assuming that Vanny didn't do anything to prevent Gregory from calling the police or anyone from outside the building who could help him? Especially when at the start of the game when Freddy finds Gregory he tries to contact the main office, but can't because someone(Vanny) blocked his signal. If Freddy couldn't contact anyone, then I highly doubt a phone would have worked even if Gregory had or managed to find one.
man the"therapists" are so strange. I cant imagine it to be anything other than bad writing or that they're not actual therapists and are interrogating both Vannessa and Ggy. Therapists are not supposed to be acting the way they do in the tapes, multiple times they seem to guilt and try to tick off the patients.
Dr. Rabbit my goat... LMAO
I mean, they’re being hired by Fazbear, what would you expect?
@@aedaniammx7559 thats also true LMAO
To be fair fazbear ent. Is known for how much they cheap out on everything. I doubt if any of those 'therapists' have any degree in psychology at all, they seem more like college dropouts who got hired by fazbear becouse they don't want as much money as a real proffesional
my current theory (which kind of goes along with my absolutely no-evidence "theory" that anything beyond pizza sim, in universe, is a very large money laundering scheme) fazbear entertainment is using/sponsored by betterhelp "therapists" for their company-issued therapy
Funny you should mention that. I have a friend who actually does have a degree in mental health. And she says the way they behave breaks so many codes of ethics. Among these is patient confidentiality, as shown by one therapist who went through Vanessa's personal history and her previous session. Combined with a line that the last therapist says ("Listen. I'm on your side."), it is more akin to a line used by police during interrogations, leading the two of us to believe that they were not proper therapists. Instead, people were hired by Fazbear to drill Gregory and Vanessa for information about what's going on around the Pizzaplex.
Just so you know, in GGY, they were described as student counselors, not therapists. My friend says that those are two different things that require two different degrees. And while, yes, it is possible they could have gotten both, she found it is very unlikely.
I don’t like Gregory being a villain. I just like to think he’s an innocent but scared boy who just so happened to get stuck in the events of sb
3:54, there’s your answer.
Exactly. This whole mystery with Gregory wasn’t necessary and ruins his whole story. The “robot” and “patient 46” things weren’t necessary and Gregory just should’ve been a kid who either saw too much or got away from someone that tried to kill him
I love how it was 15 minutes of yap and then an april fools prank. Well done, you had me hooked for it
Not me..I'm honestly so tired of it..I feel most are. It's so lazy and annoying when creators do this especially after the insane flood of it for years. I don't feel I'm the only one since this channel and Phelous were the only two I'm subscribed to who did. He even made it clear it was a dumb April fool vid from the title card. I do agree with the sentiment about videos meant to share stuff but not bask in attention or monetization. That's all most uploaded are about despite what they claim to avoid the negativity of it all. Seeing a creator admit and share in that frustration is rare and awesome. It is kind of sad that it may be now taken as a joke or maybe was all along..its hard not to group all youtubers into one camp of greedy shilling Donald Trumps and celebrity wannabees so I light up when one proves themselves more than that.
@@buddyzilla4557What?
@@buddyzilla4557crying???? What are you talking about….
@@buddyzilla4557oh that’s not…
@@buddyzilla4557From what I can gather, you seem to be upset that the genuine sentiment of "FNaF, as well as online content, have gradually changed from genuine creations to mass-produced products" is treated as a joke. However, I don't see why it can't be both a joke AND a genuine message. You also seem to not like that the video isn't clearly labelled as an April Fools video, but like... Isn't that the entire point? While I'm personally not super fond of pranking people myself, I think it's fine to have some fun doing so as long as it's not hurting anyone, especially on the day literally made for it.
The reason Doctor Rabbit was taking kids from Freddy Fazbear’s Pizzerias across the globe was because he knew the danger Monty’s Mystery Mix posed to preteen dental health. GGY was the hero after all.
I wonder what actually goes in that mix. We might randomly get answers in one of the books. Though we probably won't, and it'll forever remain a mystery.
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I still think the people who hate Gregory because he destroyed the animatronics were dumb. If you were getting hunted by animatronics, yea you would probably fight back against them and Gregory is completely in his right to attack them
I have no particular stance on Gregory(/GGY as Gregory) except thinking it's the usual fnaf book crap and that his voice/personality is annoying. However... I do just want to mention the people who think Gregory was in the right for destroying the glamrocks + upgrading Freddy (or something like that) sound exactly like the same kind of unreasonably combative weirdos that say [Fight] is a reasonable answer of the player/protagonist in Undertale monster encounters. Which is- not the greatest look, imo.
Agreed, if anyone was in his shoes they would be doing the same things he did in order to survive.
Yeah, it was self defense. A shame he had to wreck them, but it’s a matter of survival. All bets are off.
@@Depressed_Dandelion That is a false equivalence. In Undertale you are given the option to be merciful and many characters go out of their way not to hurt you. The animatronics in Security Breach will attack no matter what you do and destroying some them is necessary to achieve the "canon ending".
Also the monsters in Undertale are generally much nicer towards Frisk than the animatronics in Security Breach are to Gregory. Most of them read as just people going about their lives not constantly attacking machines.
@@XimiBell you misunderstand. I wasn't arguing the situation is the same, I was arguing that the people who say the "fight/destroy/kill" option is fine and reasonable and logical and even the expected thing to do, in either game, _sound_ the same.
I could try and make my brain Think™ and genuinely try and analyze what the hell is going on with Gregory in Security Breach, and then we could sit here and have A Genuine Conversation and Theorizing™ (because nothing in FNAF is real and/or set in stone as factual lore or story, and every new addition to the franchise is free to do what it wants with retconing every single aspect of literally everything) but... what for, lmao.
I would generally like a video talking about how stupid Gregory would be as a villain.
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At the end of the day, I think Gregory is an abrasive kid who's had a rough life whom has had to play defensive his whole life, so he hits first and hits harder. Before they get a chance to hit him.
Seriously. While his writing isn't great, having been a foster kid, I did recognize some of my foster siblings in him. Hurt; angry, and hurting before he could be hurt.
The joke doctor rabbit killer subplot sounds genuinely far more interesting than the actual stories in the books.
It's funny because that's literally the plot of the games? The Wizard is Mimic1, the Supervillain was Burntrap, the monster was Tangle. It's telling the story here.
@@at_witts_end3470 I like to think I'm pretty caught up on the story, but I have no idea what you're talking about.
@@Jesterman the end of GGY has Gregory writing fan fiction basically. GGy was the apprentice of a wizard from another world, and they're working together to take down a corporate conspiracy. By the end, the wizard transforms himself into an animatronic supervillain and fights a tentacle monster. This is like the only time Tangle himself is referenced outside the corpse pile.
The Wizard is Mimic1/Glitchtrap and Gregory is his apprentice. Eventually, Glitchtrap is able to enter The Mimic body and become Burntrap (the animatronic supervillain) and clashes with Tangle Blob (The Tentacle Monster).
@@at_witts_end3470 Oh, you were talking about book to game lore stuff. I don't really care about the lore relevance of the books, I just think they're bad books and not interesting to read.
@@Jesterman they're extremely relevant, however you look at it and plenty of the tales are good. GGY, Dittophobia, The Mimic, and The Storyteller are very investing and explain the lore of SB and even FNaF 4 and SL
I can't believe Dr.Rabbit was behind the entire fnaf plot.
I swear putting on fnaf videos in the background is gonna be the death of me hearing "Bondage Bonnie is in the game" made me think I'd finally lost it
Gregory just has Little Shit Syndrome, like we all did at one point.
All the good horror game kids have LSS, and I love it.
5:20 I don't think the therapists in the tapes are actually therapists, I mean they're very unprofessional, they have this sassy/snarky remark to them especially to Vanessa, they randomly bring up Vanessa's traumatic childhood without any warning. I think these "therapists" are spies that are working with Fazbear Entertainment or working with the law. It makes sense they're trying to find out more about Vanessa and Gregory and possibly trying to figure out how the Glitchtrap virus is affecting them as it's clear that Fazbear Entertainment is aware of it. Lastly when one of spies find out about Gregory and his GGY stuff she speaks very softly to him and saying that she's on his side. This seems like spy or a police interrogation trying to get on the good side of the criminal so the interrogation is successful.
Admittedly, yeah - I've generally considered Gregory to be 12 myself, but I think someone said the book leaned toward him being 15? and yeah, he does seem rather tiny. In the Glamdroids comic I've mentioned, rather than a stomach hatch, Gregory hides in a pizza box delivery bag of Freddy's. And the panel of him climbing back in for Freddy to carry him through the utility tunnels... yeah, still about as small as the cake hatch. Figured he must be a good contortionist.
Side note, but speaking of malnourished, I read a fic of a 21 yr old woman who snuck into her parents house, only to find a scrawny dirty toddler in the empty house - a sister she never even knew of. Realizing their mom called the kid 'broken' for not being enough like her first-born, and receiving documents on the kid born at 4.78 pounds with her birth rushed to be on March 13th with a rumor of good luck, she vowed to amend for this neglect and give her sister a good life.
Books lean towards him being 12, The 14/15 is his assumed age in Security Breach (due to there being 1-2 year gap betwen GGY and the base game of Security Breach)
Sheesh, that's a terrible story with a beautiful ending. Good to know her sister made it out ok
Man I wish Security Breach wasn't rushed so we could have had the Dr. Rabbit Boss fight, maybe we'll find the lost Colgate textures some day eh Note?
I heard that they uncovered some voice lines. One that I find very interesting is the, "Your teeth are a part of me," line which seems to imply that Gregory was possessed by haunted implants.
Quite intriguing! Happy april fools to you Note!@@notrealnamenotatall2476
In the last moments of the story ggy Greg says to Tony say yes we’ll get you all cheered up, so that means he tried to lure Tony to the pizzaplex but I don’t think it’s ever confirmed if Tony goes to the pizzaplex and even if he does it’s never confirmed if he’s killed, so what if steel wool make a another dlc for security breach but we play as Tony who instead of being killed by doctor rabbit but instead imprisoned under the complex for a long time but now has a chance to escape since the pizzaplex is abandoned and everything, during he journey he finds Bonnie and actually manages to slightly repair him enough to just function and move around, so Tony and Bonnie then try to find both Gregory and Freddy.
True. It's kinda just ended on a cliffhanger, I just didn't word that right. XD
Gregory is honestly my favorite character. So much depth in such a seemingly simple concept!
“Waifus and Woobies” 🤣 I used to think that Gregory was a child actor who worked for Fazbear Entertainment and performed in their commercials, training videos, etc. and he ran away from home to hide out in the Pizzaplex.
Gregory wasn’t “evil”, he probably wanted to get away from his parents but also find some sort of dirt on Fazbear Entertainment so as to have leverage to get out of his contract and so his parents would let him stop working for Fazbear Entertainment. Personally I don’t think he and Cassie are 12 just yet, voices aren’t changing. Probably about 9 to 11 years.
Gregory only wrecked the animatronics in self defense. Vanessa wasn’t evil either, she was either mind controlled by the Glitchtrap virus that infected her mind after Help Wanted, or she could have gone crazy from working at Fazbear Entertainment in general.
Gregory had met Cassie at her birthday party after being stood up and nobody coming to her party, due to her classmates being too scared to attend. She told Gregory about the rumors of Fazbear Entertainment, so he decided to hide in the Pizzaplex to investigate. After Security Breach, he probably asked her to meet him there, but Cassie didn’t get the message until it was in ruins. I doubt that Gregory was ever there in RUIN, the Mimic sabotaged the elevator power source as it imitated Gregory’s voice one last time to mock her before causing the elevator to crash.
These are just my theories, I could be wrong.
I imagine that Gregory only had access to studies because Glitch would have controlled him for it and obtained contact with Vanessa's therapists. This would only have been possible if FAZBEAR had run a kind of campaign to “rescue” orphans just to clean up its image and practically say:
“Look how good we are, it shows that your horrible stories about us are nothing but lies.”
But the idea of him being a kind of “poster boy” is interesting hahahahaha, it could be that he was an advertiser for the FAZBEAR campaign.
I use Cassie as an anchor for Gregory and Cassie's age; in fact, I think by RUIN, they are both 13 and under. I believe he is still just an orphan who suddenly arrived at the Pizzaplex (in this case without knowing his past) and caused all that chaos. I agree that it seems a little inappropriate for Gregory to have knocked over the elevator, but we'll see what happens.
"Gregory's outside again" 😂 Freddy get yo kid
I have to say I like ggy and Afton cult angle, though not for a kid villian- as he wouldn't be a villain, but another victim, under Williams(glitchbitchs) thumb as Michael supposedly was. The psychological horror and not even really remembering what he was forced to do, what he possibly made Freddy do, and made to help corral in Vanessa; there's a lot of interesting aspects a storyline like that could go
I just finished dsaf 3 and dear God, that game had peak writing.
If I was more sentimental I would’ve cried in the phone guys’s backstories.
Thanks for helping me mate.
No problem!
Fun fact, but some of the Phone Guys appear in Dialtown, so apparently they really did go off and start a new life. 🥺
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Also, i didn’t expand the restaurant, there was only the hallway and the dining area, and there were no lawsuits, springlock failures or people walking into aurora borealises!
@@SpyDoTF2 wait Arora borialises? Please explain?
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Basically, there’s a chance that you will get a lawsuit that a customer vaporized because they walked into an aurora borealis in your restaurant.
I don't really get the Greg hate, and honestly, I'm interested to see what happens to his relationship with cassie and if any more of Greg's ggy friends will appear.
HOW COULD YOU SLOVED THAT YOU SLOVED THE WHOLE FRANCHISE WITH THIS THEORY MATPAT WOULDN'T SOLVE IT🤯
Honestly before ggy I had a theory that someone was pretending to be Gregory and trying to frame him.
A scary/dark thought I had is what if Gregory wasn’t even under the glitchtrap virus and was just naturally evil but somehow lost his memories and that’s why he’s good now.
And what if Tony was the one who broke Gregory free from glitchtrap.
7:48 why did this part scare me 😅😂🤣.
hahahaha, after GGY I theorized (I thought at least) that Gregory had a twin brother and that he was the one causing problems, Gregory was mad at him and that would be the origin of his "abrasive" personality hahahahaha. Personally, I think there's a chance Cassie's father was responsible for Gregory's release.
Saw the title and thought to myself "wow, Dr. Rabbit, like the dentist? Surely not..."
And thus, I was complete.
So you're telling me Dr. Rabbit *actually is* THE Doctor Rabbit ?! That's just insane !
Yee, he is the doctor rabbit.
every time i heard the name Dr. Rabbit i would immediately quote "I am Dr. Rabbit, the world's only rabbit rabbit" glad i'm not the only one
Dr Rabbit is actually mind-washing Gregory so he can destroy his greatest nemesis, WalrusGuy
I’ve never understood people who hate Gregory. (For some reason) I enjoy his character a lot! Dispight apparent flaws I think his character is a lot better than people give him credit for.
Hearing you say "that's Mama Luigi to you, Mario!" in a fnaf video absolutely made my day 😂
The School Councilors being Fazbear employees might have something to it. Between the Faz Apartments, school sponsorships and other things, it seems like Steel Wool's version of Fazbear Inc is a parody of, or reference to, the mega corps of the industrial revolution. IRL, during the late 19th and early 20th century, many big companies [Ford is an example, look up fordlandia for the most ambitious dystopia] would create "company towns", where the grocery stores, restaurants, schools, hospitals, housing, EVERYTHING was owned and controlled by the company, to keep as much money in-house [since the employees, usually of a factory, had to get everything from the company, as mail-order was still in its infancy]. Even the cops were just security guards or hired goons.
It seems to be implied that Fazbear Inc is doing something similar, providing animatronic equipped apartments for its employees, influencing the education of the local children [including those of employees like Cassie] and even data-mining customer's lives with the Rental Service[s]
There needs to be a game where they have all of the book characters fighting for the spotlight.
Do you think that lefty could be a refurbished carnie? This is a very long shot, im talkin 100 yard football kick, but it's just some fun thoughts that could conjure up something in the community.
If you look at burnt carnie's model, you can just barely see that his right eye is more withered. You may have to squint. But say that at that time his right eye got replaced because it was the most damaged of the two, after decades of collecting dust and rotting away, the untouched eye could have decayed to the point of becoming black. As Henry repared carnie to become lefty, the original eye may have stayed or been replaced with a new black eye for a unique touch.
A more realistic approach could be the lefty's design is INSPIRED by his burnt orginal. The eye rotted eye i just mentioned could have inspired the black eye detail.
One specific character of that I think could drive home this theory is the color. Burnt carnie is a muted brown with white char accents. But if you were to scrape all of burnt plastic off, you be left with a black tarnished metal. Notice that lefty is not solid black, but a metalic, gun metal black.
I think it is possibe that lefty is either a repaired version of carnie, with it's new design based on the chared scraps of the original, or lefty was a completely different animatronic who's build was inspired by the remains of his counterpart.
By the location of Fazer Blast and hint we see, I think that carnie was most likely a part of Fall Fest(most likely the 1970 event) if so, do you think it's possible that carnie was one of Henry's first animatronics. That was a whole decade before our first look at fredbears.
Whether or not Fredbear's opened before 1983. I highly doubt that it was an establishment before 1970. I noticed that there is no sign of Freddy’s or Fredbear's on the poster. Which leads me to believe that this fall fest may have predated everything.
The running theory is that the mediocre melodies were his first animatronics, made to rip off Freddy’s fame. But being that we see an animatronic a decade before that, that closely resembles one of his final animatronics. It really seems that carnie could be his first.
Here's some food for thought. Henry has been deemed a copycat in the early timeline for the mediocre melodies. But if he made his first BEAR animatronic at a children's theme event in 1970, is he really the copycat? If William stole the idea and made Fredbear's, and Fredbear's became as big as it did. No one would bat an eye at a small carnival with a simple bear animatronic.
I don't know if I like this idea, but I'm just throwing everything I got to see what sticks. Is it possible that William set the carnival on fire to one, preventing it from becoming more successful. And two, to take that idea and reuse it for himself. I don't think he was pure evil at this point, or really evil at all. But it's still just a thought.
I don't really think that lefty is a remade carnie. I think it's possible that the design could have been inspired by the withered design. But I doubt that they put that much thought into a connection like that.
I am pretty confident, though, that carnie was most likely the first and that Henry was never really the copycat. But more so, tried to reclaim the ideas stolen from him later on after William's fame.
lol I love your image for Tony
Edit: I don’t even know what exactly this video was trying to tell me but I was hooked so deeply into it that I was genuinely offended for a second when the video ended with “April fools” 😂
That is why I just hated the story GGY revealing that Gregory was the hacker, it has basically nothing to do with him it’s just full of plot holes when you stop to think about it. If Gregory really was possessed by something and was hacking the building all alone, what was the point of Vanny? And I read online that the books took so long to release because some were being completely rewritten before Ruin. So they could’ve just rewrote everything hoping nobody would notice.
One of the things I didn't add is that Gregory is supposedly such a great hacker, but in GGY, another girl from Tony's school just casually hacks the animatronics for fun and finds out their codes been changed. I think whoever wrote the books just has a very optimistic look at our future youth, lol.
You took the words out my mouth. I never agreed with this ggy nonsense, it just never made sense to me at all.
Pretty sure they both have roles like GGY does the hacking and Vanny does the killing.
why doesn't it make sense too you? if I can I could help your confusion?
@@3nc335 There is no clearing up confusion with such a poorly written story.
Fnaf lore is so convoluted that I can’t tell if this is for April Fools or a genuine fnaf story. 😭😭🤣
Well the first game wasn’t made on April First so unfortunately no.
The answer is, always: yes.
Gregory's backstory is still a shrouded mystery today with little hints given on him in Security Breach and a bit in the RUIN DLC. If we get another FNAF game with Gregory, Vanessa, and Glamrock Freddy I feel like it would be a chance to expand more upon their characters with everything the Steel Wool team had to cut out due to time in Security Breach.
Oddly substantive as an April fools joke. Got 2 the end & somehow got smth out of it.
(10:15) Agree, Bondage Bonnie should NEVER be canon, it’s cursed.
Gregory is the crying child confirmed
Shoo, Matpat! /j
After the bite, Gregory went into a fifty year long coma. During which he didn't age because he was injected with Remnant and it sustained him. Then he woke up and, finding that his family was no more, he went to the Pizzaplex as he was technically the heir to the Fazbear throne.
What?
I can't believe how fast we shifted from the case of a man murdering 6 kids throught Fazbear stablishments to a dentist rabbit called Dr. Rabbit...
Fast? It's been years
Edit: I do have to correct you at one point about the therapists. The reason people believe Gregory is Patient 46 is because the therapists go missing in game just like they do in the books, with one even being found dead with another therapist saying that they looked like they had been mauled by machinery. The amount of therapists that go missing also match GGY. GGY has three therapists going missing, wheres SB has four therapists going missing, with the last hinting that she is going to follow them because she has gotten too close to the truth. They also mention that one of the therapists does work with children.
Also this is Fazbear Entertainment. I wouldn't put it past them to try and get away with child labour. xD Especially if the kid in question is really good with technology like it is mentioned in the tapes. A phenom. Hell, Gregory himself probably isn't the reason he's considered a phenom. The virus - whether it really is William or the Mimic imitating him - is made out of code and would know how it got there. It learned how to infect the tapes, and it learned how to get out. It would be the one to know how to hack things.
Although the existence of the M.X.E.S. and just who made it (be it Cassie's dad (I doubt that one), Vanessa, or Gregory since his backpack is down there), could also be called into question.
I also gotta add that it would make perfect sense for Glitchtrap to possess a child - he'll be surrouned by the very audience he targets. Not only that, but Gregory is insanely fast, (as shown between SB and Ruin, where Cassie is slow as hell compared to him.) is thought by some of the girls in his grade as 'cute', and is light enough that he can get through the vents without breaking them, unlike Cassie. (Although this could just be game logic since Outlast (for example) allows you to crawl through vents when they wouldn't be able to support an adult's weight.) He would also be able to easily lure away other kids and adults away from crowded areas.
And I mean really, a child would be perfect! What are you going to think if you see a kid in a Staff only area? Are you going to think they were out for blood, or are you just going to assume that they either got lost or are up to no good? Are you going to call the police, or are you simply going to kick them out and scold them for being where they shouldn't? What would you do if you saw a kid with a knife? Would you think they wanted to hurt someone? Or would you think 'that's dangerous', and take it from them and scold them for having something so dangerous on their person, especially if they put up an act of obliviousness.
You would be surpised how much a person can get away with something because they look a certain way, especially if it's a kid.
And anyway, if I had to be honest... we have more evidence that Greogry is GGY than we do that Michael is Mike Schmit, Fritz Smith, or the guy that works at Fazbear's Fright. And yet, a lot of people believe that that is irrefutably canon. There. I said it. But no one's ready for THAT conversation.
Anyway, here's my original comment: But really, GGY makes me sad. It’s SUCH a good concept for a character, especially since he’s a child. Having some crazy murderer (the real one or a virus impersonating him) that went after children deciding to possess a child to continue doing his evil deeds is so insidious and I love it! What a good story idea and way to make you hate William (cause I stand with the idea that Glitchtrap was always meant to be William, but now Steel Wool’s backtracked and trying to say it was the Mimic the whole time) even more.
I firmly believe that if this had been SB’s initial backstory/mystery and it had come out in working condition, it would have been a baller FNaF game from right out of the gate. Especially since we could’ve played as Vanessa. (As hinted from her scrapped sounds in the files). Hell, if we were just to focus on GGY, the old trailers make more sense. Vanny telling Gregory his friends are worried for him? Vanny telling him she was sorry for losing her temper and saying it was just a glitch? (By saying this, that implies Gregory knows what’s wrong with her/knows who’s really talking.) Hell, it screams a lot about his character that he went out of his way to save Vanessa rather than kill her like Freddy told him to, and with GGY in play, it makes even more sense. They’ve been taken advantage of and have been used to commit terrible crimes! It would be such a good plot.
But that is all ‘what if’ and ‘what was’. 😔 That’s not the story we got, and I’m sad because in the right hands it would have been great.
I just hope the concept doesn’t get dropped off the face of the Earth and is handled with care and explained in game through clues or something if it came back.
Edit: Also! We were never told or hinted as to how Gregory got away from the virus. For all we know he could be like a sleeper agent.
I really want a fnaf timeline video that only uses info that can be found in the games. Im curious what the timeline would look like if we just ignored the books entirely. Im also curious about how many plot holes there would be as a result.
I've gotta do that sometime, because that would be hilarious. XD
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 It's definitely worth taking a look!
Cool video❤🎉🥰😍
Aight fine, I'll say it, you genuinely got me.
3:01 Wait, is that one of the old DA fancomics from back in the day? The name is familiar. Also, that did remind me of another fnaf fancomic with springtrap and all, but I can't remember its name for the life of me. Iirc it was referenced in the first Dsaf but that's as far as I can remember.
And yeah, as I said, you got me, I was genuinely intrigued and all. 19:55 Yeah I'm pretty sure I will from now on lol.
Damn, I kinda want to watch some ytps now.
Happy April Fools!
Happy April Fools!
It was a pretty popular Fnaf comic that floated around for a while. I think I read part of it when it was coming out back in... whenever that was, lol. XD
On 2:53, you might not be wrong considering Cassie is probably the same grade as Gregory, 7th grade and the age range for 7th grader is 12 to 13 and considering Cassie was mentioned having a birthday she’s probably thirTEEN, a teenager.
Honestly, Cassie is more believable because her voice actually sounds in her tweens/early teens while Gregory sounds like he’s still in elementary school.
Gregory could be heavily malnourished since he's a homeless orphan teen, so it makes sense why he looks so young, how ever for his voice, it's common with victims of trauma and abuse that their voice will "stop developing" from the age of said trauma so maybe it's that?
I don't hate Gregory, he's a scared kid locked inside a Pizza Plex with people who are after him for nefarious purposes. Hell, he doesn't trust Vammessa outright which implies she dragged him to the pizzaplex, locked him up and he escaped. Said person is using hiant robots to hunt him down on their behalf, so yeah I dont blame the kid for defending himself by scrapping the bots.
Personally, I wish there had been a way to break the hold Gliychtrap and Vanessa had on the Glamrocks, like Gregory finds out about Mexus and uses it to deprogram the bots one by one or something not realising that Mexus is a bit of a douche or something idk.
Just got FBF graphic novel vol. 4 on saturday :)
Neato!
Thank you for trying to clear gregorys name because when venassa was mind controlled she was not given as much hate and yet when gregory does it hes treated like the worst person ever. Hell ever avryone is ok with what afton is and still doing. Basically what im saying is most of the fnaf community is toxix. Most not all. And for no good reason people hate henry more then afton.
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Indeed you are the fourth comment.
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I like Gregory just being a child trapped in a mall with dangerous animatronics that he destroys much more than him being some brainwashed killer. He’s, like, ten and a total gremlin, which is entertaining to witness.
I also don’t know why people think he’s GGY, who I thought was some high school-age kid. I mean, I’m 4’10, but even I wouldn’t be able to fit in Freddy.
Let Gregory be a mischievous child who has to defend himself, it’s funnier that way.
FIRST NOW PLEASE GIVE ME CLOUT🙏🙏🙏
Your the fifth actually.
@@azimuddin1890 no I'm at LEAST SECOND😭
@@Constellation_yt
Nope, fifth.
Fine here’s your clout man jeez…
Great vid
Thank you!
5:25 Somebody's probably already pointed this out to you but...
This point is flawed because the therapists are obviously hired in a freelance style, the Retro CDs make this clear.
"I don't just work with corporations, I work with individuals and small groups. I even work in schools. I'm wherever I'm needed." - the third therapist in CD 12
Vanessa's could've been mandated to seek therapy by the company if she acted out in some way that showed she needed mental health care (Like in FNAF AR when she ordered thumbscrews to the office and Luis said it looked like a cry for help.) employers can ask you to do that if they don't wanna immediately fire you for acting out, and can provide internal employee records to assist the therapist if authorized, since the reason for counseling is associated with the patient's job. This does not mean the therapists are direct employees of fazbear. The first therapist saying "everyone associated with this company gets performance reviews" doesn't mean Fazbear is the company doing the reviews, I think CD12 is stronger evidence that the therapists aren't just working under a corporation.
Should've brought up chara / frisk again during the 'kids being evil' part! Lmao. I think the best example of a kid villain would be Sid from toy story. He's not evil, just a bit of a bullying troublemaker who likes to mess with toys.
You want to know the worst part?
...this makes sense.
Not really
@@muriloilharodrigues4724 it does to me, in my heart of hearts. (/silly)
@@alymatronicdoesrandomness505 oh ok
Did this have any nuggets of theory/truth in this or was the entire thing a April Fools joke!?
Everything up until the 'secret Dr. Rabbit' stuff was an actual Fnaf take. XD The Gregory stuff is in the games/books, and those are my real thoughts on them. Then Dr. Rabbit showed up. Dr. Rabbit comes first.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 ok. good to clarify.👍
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Yay, new upload abt lore
I’m gonna edit NotRealName into the original ytp’s
LolBit!
(7:39) Oh my goodness, it’s the nefarious C.D.I Ganon and his funny face he made to Link!
Didn’t expect YTP to show up in this, but hey, I’m not complaining. Snooping as usual I see!
To my knowledge, the Tales from the Pizzaplex books were being written at roughly the same time that Security Breach was being developed (if not earlier)… also to my knowledge, the Tales from the Pizzaplex books are canon to the games, but the Fazbear Frights ones aren’t.
Considering that Security Breach's story was totally gutted, especially the Vanessa stuff (look at the cut lines, they're crazy!), that doesn't bode too well. XD
All I know is when asking about the books canonicity, Scott made the Mangle joke. Wasn't a yes... Well that and Fazbear Fright's Trashpile Afton was pretty clearly the rabbit entity in the original Princess Quest (the one at the end of the Help Wanted one), so who knows.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Yeah… but also, with the timeline put forward in Fazbear Frights, it’s pretty much impossible for both that and the games timeline to exist at the same time (except maybe the one theory that the Stitchwraith Stingers and the stories related to them happen after Security Breach & Ruin)… plus, the weird Glitchtrap amalgamation-looking thing has more similarities to the Blob (or Tangle or whatever its name is) than to the Afton Amalgamation, and that’s on top of the Afton Amalgamation being actually possessed by Afton as opposed to Glitchtrap being the Mimic just pretending to be Afton.
3:00 I swear the mention of that comic literally jumpscared me.
First time hearing about it. What is it?
@@Thechaosmaster1997quinnamon just had a video recently about the whole comic and the artist behind it. it’s a really good watch
In my opinion the whole ggy thing and Gregory being a robot is the most controversial opinions in this community tbh
Yk? Also what would be a video idea I would like to see is maybe a video on the springlock suits or something related to that like Mr Illistrated,s descriptive springlock failure video.
Does this mean that Dr Rabbit is a standin for William Afton?
The books should be used as evidence is the most controversial opinion
(19:54) I’ll probably think of the cursed rabbit I mentioned that wore the Pride Trooper uniform.
(20:14) Also XD, I wanna see variations of this please, also the music makes it x2 better too.
Ooo new vid
Fnaf nights at fredbears
Personally, I don’t know how that would work.
I like to headcannon Vanessa/Vanny used an illusion disc as Patient 46 so that therapists see them as different people.
3:29 That’s threatening in an even worse way. Dormitabis William, anybody?
whats wrong with the baby from ice age!!!!
I'd like to offer the unpopular opinion that all the games prior to SB are games in-universe, and the books written during that time are equally... well, just books.
Real life. Theres a kid, hes 14 or 15 and is the size of an 8 yesr old. He's like 4 foot exactly.
I ve had this video in my playlist for months now, i save fnaf vids as a treat to work with to do tasks that need more motivation.
I cannot explain my confusion as ytps are introduced thinking a conservative Christian man would have been into [PINGAS] or any of his authors would be wanting to make A YTP referenc[eenenemenenemenemec]e SO[S] plot Heavy
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What did you do with the real dime-a-thousand
Chris Thorndike jumpscare (Sooooniiiiiic)
Man, the 2000s internet was paradoxically both an infinitely more offensive yet also more *innocent* place.
The internet has gotten both more Puritanical, and devolved into an engine of harrassment and ruining lives. Little is ever created anymore, little is even allowed to exist outside a set of corporate walled gardens.
Flash being discontinued was the worst thing to ever happen to the internet.
3:06 It’s pronounced DEL-EYE-UH. And I’ll leave it at that. No more Springtrap and Deliah.
What happened
@@fossilartstudios5878 Trust me, YA DON’T WANNA KNOW.
Gregory might have broken free fornplating Princess Quest.
And that's why he was stopping and using his time to survive in order play Proncess Quest while Vanny was chasing him.
the thing is, as much as I like gregory and his GGY thing he has going on, it makes me dread the future of the franchise. The only other interesting possessed by glitchtrap character WAS Vanny. And now she's not, which could add a lot of interesting laye- oh who am I kidding they're not gonna do that for gregory or Vanessa are they?
You could tackle so many cool topics with this too! Does Gregory remember his days as Rab? Does he remember Tony? If he does, does he think it's real? Could he think they're just dreams, or maybe he doesn't remember doing anything along those lines. Or perhaps Vanessa remembers (Assuming Princess Quest is canon, which it probably is, and that Gregory lives with her) she could see him trying to cut something with a knife and has a mini-panic or something and Gregory thinks 'huh, that's... weird.'
Thank you for this one. I read GGY and was all prepared for it to explain everything and then it...did not. I wasn't even totally convinced the Greg in the story was under Glitchtrap's control. (It's implied, for sure, but not clearly, and...I have trouble extrapolating.)
4:42 similarly, the Glamrocks' initials of FF, MG, CC, RW can be seen on some cabinets, most notably the PQ ones. If Gregory's breaking the high scores, wouldn't this mean the animatronics play the games?
Watching this a week later, and it took me 15 minutes to find out this is a joke.
That missing children incident evolving 6 victims is William Afton during FNAF 2 Mini-games. He kidnapped children from a various places And then bring them to the pizzeria at night for experiments. That's why the restaurant in FNAF 2 shut down.
Watching this a day late and having it on in the background zoning out was... an interesting choice that I definitely made hearing half the shit I heard until I was just like "Oh this is probably an April Fool's vid isn't it" though I definitely had to check the date to be sure because the FNAF lore do be a little quirky at night.
Thank you for reminding me about Dr. Rabbit; the world's only rabbit rabbit. Boggle!
SO GLAD I'M NOT ALONE THINKING OF THE KOLGATE CARTOON HECK
Don't ask HOW or WHY it was chosen for the weekly rental but I remember it being brought home on VHS for the weekend. It possibly might have been picked up but my grandmother but I have a slight doubt because I remember the same grandmother also tricking me that if I brushed my teeth enough times during the day they'd glow in the dark. Can confirm Dr. Rabbit made it to Blockbuster though, even though it feels like a "someone switched the tapes at Hollywood Video" incident. LOL
Holy shit I feel old remembering that.
oh mate i wasn't expecting that of a bring back i woke up in the middle of the night to watch this and i will definitely sleep well after this dr rabbit will always be in our hearts amazing job buddy
2:42 see, that’s what I don’t understand! I genuinely do not believe he’s 12! I refuse to believe it! I’d much rather believe he was just a lost child as young as eight (Yeah, big advocate for Gregory here and as a fan 😅) it’s one of the reasons why I don’t like this story. I hate the hacker bit so much.
I don't see any way he could be twelve. I think he was just aged up for the story because a lot of FF/Tales books tend to involve middle schoolers-high schoolers.
Honestly? Gregory being about that age despite being so small isn't that unbelievable to me. And he wouldn't be the only FNAF character, either. *The Monty Within*'s main character Kane had a younger brother who was said to be thirteen and looked half it. For a real-world example, actor John Franklin was twenty-four when he played the kid character Isaac Conner in the 1984 adaption of the Stephen King novel, *Children of the Corn*. If you look at pictures of him in the movie, he does not look twenty-four thanks to a genetic condition that stunted his growth. Wouldn't surprise me if Greg was suffering from the same thing.
So yeah. Gregory being a small teen? Not that hard to believe. At least for me.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 now that makes a whole lot more sense