ISFJ Taylor Tomlinson!

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  • @DallasWales
    @DallasWales 22 дні тому +10

    Very interesting video! Definitely brought out my masculine Ne and Fi saviors because I just wanted to fight her on those points when she was going off ("Says who? Who made you the arbiter of what is good or not good? Who says you have all the perspectives?").

    • @5idi
      @5idi 22 дні тому +4

      @@DallasWales Listen, even my Se just went "This is factually wrong because I saw lone kids and people with pet accounts having partners."

    • @tfranc347
      @tfranc347 21 день тому +3

      I’m Ne Ti and I wanted to fight her too for what it’s worth lol. Just let people live who gives a shit if they clap at the end of a flight, or if they have funny socks. It just means they appreciate the effort that went into the plane landing safely. It might be cheesy but whatever

  • @5idi
    @5idi 22 дні тому +50

    You know what's the real "ick?" People who decide what's an "ick."

    • @StanTheWoz
      @StanTheWoz 22 дні тому +9

      "Oh, but I'm not deciding it, this is what people really think"
      Nah, it's them. Even if they won't admit it. These people are cringe

    • @5idi
      @5idi 22 дні тому +2

      @@StanTheWoz Yep, if it was what people really thought, no lone child would be married. That was the weirdest.

    • @tfranc347
      @tfranc347 22 дні тому

      Exactly. Get tf over yourself.

    • @ApLemon
      @ApLemon 22 дні тому +3

      This is so spot on!! I was really uncomfortable watching this video, and at somepoint, the pitch of her voice and her laugh, became annoying to me...I was just like!! Leave him alone!!

    • @tfranc347
      @tfranc347 22 дні тому +1

      1000%

  • @Turnsnap
    @Turnsnap 22 дні тому +7

    Me an INFJ realizing i do ick or no ick

  • @UsernamePengwen
    @UsernamePengwen 15 днів тому +1

    It's always interesting to see D&S processing Fe. Shan's association of the word "jubilee" in relationship to it always makes me think of the cultural anthropologist David Graeber's use of the word "jubilee" in the book 'The Democracy Project' because of the contextualization it gives the word (and thus the concept of Fe) broadly within humanity. Thus far David Graeber's work has been one of the most fascinating to consider through the lens of OPS.

  • @Pabz2030
    @Pabz2030 22 дні тому +16

    INTJ here: Screw the tribes "icks" and "no icks". *I* Decide what I like or dont like. Not you.

    • @denisesiddon7241
      @denisesiddon7241 22 дні тому +6

      @Pabz2030 I'm INFP and think the same. Everyone is different and have had different experiences. You can't decide for others

    • @Turnsnap
      @Turnsnap 22 дні тому +3

      Careful, lest you be on the wrong side of the tribe

    • @tfranc347
      @tfranc347 22 дні тому +3

      ENTP with demon Fe. Couldn’t agree more. Just let people live. You wear little no-show socks? They look kinda funny, but honestly who gives a that much of a damn

    • @Pabz2030
      @Pabz2030 21 день тому +2

      @@Turnsnap I've been on the "wrong" side of the tribe so many times in my life it's become a bit of a hobby these days.

    • @5dlovelight
      @5dlovelight 20 днів тому +2

      I'm ISTP and I agree

  • @StanTheWoz
    @StanTheWoz 22 дні тому +7

    This reminds me of when you guys did the video on that ESFJ lady, Katie Porter I think? She was going after all these ruthless business types and maybe I agree with the results but animalistically she scared the hell out of me with all the shaming. It's not quite to the same extent here but very much in line with what you're saying

    • @leucisticcrow85
      @leucisticcrow85 22 дні тому +2

      Hum that's an interesting point. I wonder if the ESFJ lady being a decider and the ISFJ being an observer is the big difference? As a decider, the EJ would take the people more seriously and having ti last she had to build up her approach to these business people to be taken seriously and so she did. Where the IJ being an observer would make her not take the people as seriously therefor not being as bothered by his discomfort and more amused. Even when he lightly poked back at her, she didn't skip a beat. Interesting, I'll have to think on that one.

  • @brianbertrand8322
    @brianbertrand8322 22 дні тому +7

    This is great. I got all of them correct "cognitively". 4 for 4. However, IRL, my mFi might emotionally violate the vibe cause it might "decide" it doesn't give a DFW what the emotional vibe is trammeled to. Note: DFW = Dave's Favorite Word. PS. I can cognitively "simulate" Fe from 2xfTe + mFi + life reps. But there is a distinction in practice and "at the end of the day", mFi might decide to completely ignore "bodily ick-factor emotional Fe" ..cause 1) my body won't get "incited" enough, and 2) NeFi loves authenticity and weirdness more than "niceness", whenever possible. Ergo 3) Unless I deem it essential "for the context" mFi ain't budging for minor matters.
    - FF TeSi B=PCS 2Aux1, aka ENeTJ.

  • @ruthielalastor2209
    @ruthielalastor2209 22 дні тому +10

    I'm Fi-dom, and I get the sentiment of Fe when they think something is ick - it's like, "Read the room. Don't wear weird, special socks. Don't make it seem like your pet has their OWN account. Don't be in a position where you're not consulting with your peers..." But I don't feel the same discomfort. I'll stay away if it's not my cup of tea but it's live and let live.

    • @caiden3396
      @caiden3396 22 дні тому

      Listening to feedback, focusing on the feelings of the group and the emotional atmosphere, and conforming to the feelings of the group which can be good or bad, depending on the context.

    • @tfranc347
      @tfranc347 22 дні тому +2

      I have demon Fe and it’s always more like curiosity for me than faux pas. Like “oh that’s what they like? Interesting.” Just let people live! lol

    • @d.k.s.5919
      @d.k.s.5919 22 дні тому +2

      My ENFJ friend gets the ick from what I see as the most innocuous things like "saying goodbye weird" to a customer. He might be right though. People really like him

    • @denisesiddon7241
      @denisesiddon7241 22 дні тому +1

      @ruthielalastor2209 I just take FE values into account as last thing I want is to offend anyone but I base my decisions on my own values mostly

  • @oscarl.3563
    @oscarl.3563 22 дні тому +6

    This was a funny one. You can see the logic: "Why clap? Landing the plane is the bare minimum, you know." "The dogs are already captive and now you gonna do them like this? Two for two - you're not doing great already." Ti backdrop.

  • @MarianaSilva-kh4io
    @MarianaSilva-kh4io 20 днів тому +2

    My mom is ISFJ and she is one of the funniest persons I know, this makes sense

  • @caiden3396
    @caiden3396 22 дні тому +8

    A lot of people likely find clapping on a plane when it lands too cheesy.😅

  • @burningsodium
    @burningsodium 20 днів тому +3

    I would've thought ESTP, but I guess this diagnosis is plausible.

  • @flux1940
    @flux1940 14 днів тому +1

    if type told me one thing then that even though we can be very very similar every human beeing is such an precious individualistic expression of these functions.
    The world would be so much worse without Dave and Shan in it.

  • @ihorseveryn9367
    @ihorseveryn9367 19 днів тому +2

    It's more like Fe resistance and Si-Ti reasoning. Like I'm gonna deny any confusion, opinions etc that comes from outside (dismiss proper Fe) because I have my reasons (Ti loop)

    • @potapotapotapotapotapota
      @potapotapotapotapotapota 19 днів тому +3

      Well that's the thing, Fi sounds a lot like Ti and Fe sounds a lot like Te. But they are talking about likes and dislikes here, so the reasons are Fe vs Fi.

  • @oscarl.3563
    @oscarl.3563 22 дні тому +10

    5:50 _"Here is what confuses the hell out of me. The Fe's will do this and they see the Fi's hate it and they just keep going."_ Because it's fun! She was having a blast. It's great to play with peoples feelings and get them all awkward and embarrassed. Just because we can observe that you feel discomfortable doesn't mean that it registers that we shouldn't continue to play on your emotions. It is like tickling somebody. If you really hate it just say pineapple. Otherwise people will continue to tickle just because you're ticklish.

  • @Beebeboopb0p
    @Beebeboopb0p 22 дні тому +7

    ISFJ here, the comments seem to be taking it well... idk i just thought it was funny. Not a big deal to me.

  • @getreadywithmemamma
    @getreadywithmemamma 22 дні тому +2

    Oh my God listening to you guys do emotions 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. I love you both, but I mean I don’t even have fe up high, but I’ve always been able to find the fe… now ti I suck at that stuff is ridiculous, but Fi and Fe and even Te all day long! 😂😂😂😊😊😊😊❤um, I can honestly say though that both Te and Fe hurt like F!!! Being dumb and emotionally stupid are both not fun as the Ti Fi’s…. “Hello Darkness my old friend”…. And only friend.

  • @Dolph-fe2ks
    @Dolph-fe2ks 22 дні тому +2

    So what type does it make me that I think the real reason why he's squirming, is because he knows he's getting a dose of his own medicine? 🤔

  • @דיןהיכל
    @דיןהיכל 22 дні тому +4

    Great video.
    If you don’t have CC, please stop speeding up your examples. Stop doing it for the deaf.
    It doesn’t save any meaningful time. Especially when you can’t hear. Try reading lips at 1.5 speed.

  • @rickrocks606
    @rickrocks606 14 днів тому +2

    I can see how fi demon would get uncomfortable in this situation or sleep demon because her reasoning comes off more processed,i donno if this video was a good example of fe coming at the fis

  • @brucelee4763
    @brucelee4763 22 дні тому +7

    what's her full type?

  • @candeeee12345
    @candeeee12345 20 днів тому +3

    this is making me question my type bc I thought I was an IXFJ for many reasons but I also dont give a shit if people consider applauding on an airplane an ick, I'll do whatever I want and idc what others do. When fe doms bring up this sort of conversation it's not that I don't understand it bc I see their point, I just find it boring and unimportant. I'm confused

    • @carl5184
      @carl5184 19 днів тому +1

      Feminine Fe will also not push. "Ill do whatever..." sounds very Di savior tho. Can still be IXFJ but more probable to be the sleep variant.

    • @potapotapotapotapotapota
      @potapotapotapotapotapota 19 днів тому +1

      "idc what others do" is definitely evidence of Di thinking. But like carl said it could just be that your Di is masculine and your De is feminine. Whether one is more dominant than the other I can't say.

  • @sophc8599
    @sophc8599 21 день тому +8

    The level of offense taken in this comment section is kind of an ick
    Jk obviously, but fr I don’t think most Fe users see it as that “deep” lol you throw out your silly opinion and maybe your rationale to the tribe, you see the reaction/grab their consensus and think “ah, cool, that’s where we’re at rn, I see”, make a joke or two and move on lol. However, that Fe does often make u reflexively feel the brief and small sting of being “cringe” if you’re caught on the back foot, it’s just easy to move on, banter back, or play along lol. At least in my experience.
    But like they said in the video, if someone were to dismantle my Ti idea or thought process in a way that I perceived as shallow-or even just in a way that hammers home the “thats so idiotic and here’s every reason why”, I would feel like it was overkill and probably be pretty hurt, cuz you’re coming not just for opinion-based shit, but for my intellect/skill/internal thought process. Especially if it’s a thought that’s been stewing for so long in my head that it’s going to be complicated to explain or to prove the utility of based on a brief survey. It’s either deeply aggravating to feel like “ugh they just don’t get it, if they only understood ____” or “damn I really am a moron, I can’t believe I didn’t get it/messed up that badly. Am I stupid? Have I always been stupid?”.
    Interesting!

  • @grumpyschnauzer
    @grumpyschnauzer 22 дні тому +1

    I would have thought Fe was more about accommodating like Ne and Fi is more about what's right or wrong from an individual perspective.
    But then again... I say walking around the house with socks and being a sockmopper or going to be with socks is ICK 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @potapotapotapotapotapota
      @potapotapotapotapotapota 19 днів тому +1

      There are two types of Fe - masculine and feminine. One type of Fe is very pushy about the social rules, whereas the other type of Fe is very agreeable.

  • @leucisticcrow85
    @leucisticcrow85 22 дні тому +7

    Interesting video. I'm not sure if it's cus I'm ISTJ or demon fi but most of what she talked about sounded shallow to me. I understand it's a game and a Fe shame game vs an Fi at that but do people actually look at these small specifics and then completely disregard a whole person? Or is it more a "funny" poke at the person, haha your dumb?
    I think my Te sees where she's coming from but looks at it very differently and makes it more about function.
    The example - I personally find the short ankle socks annoying cus they slide off and yes they look dumb.
    1. The plane one I agree, clapping on a plane makes you look dumb.
    2. Pet account - I personally dislike most social media but enjoy pets. I would think pictures of animals are ok but a whole web page for their animal does feel odd to me.
    3. Only child - this one rubbed me as shallow even if I agree with the reasoning. I'm the middle child myself.
    4. Lord of the Rings - I don't know if I care. I've ran into both great fans and annoying fans.
    I know my Te brain is missing something here so if an Fe can explain for my Si brain, I'd appreciate it. Is it a "vibe" thing or an end all kinda of thing?

    • @ApLemon
      @ApLemon 22 дні тому +2

      I also think it was pretty shallow, but I was surprised that I could guess the answers right. However I did not liked this situation at all. I think that the reaction of Colbert could have come from not knowing good enough what the tribe value as cool or not cool. The feeling of being out of touch, or getting roasted in public by a person that is clearly controlling the vibe of the room might add up to that feeling of being overwhelmed and tired of that. Also the woman looked amused by doing this...I wonder if there was some hidden rejoice in having power over his audience, and teasing him like that.

    • @tfranc347
      @tfranc347 22 дні тому +2

      I’ve got demon Fe and Si, and I’m with you. My experience of it is that it’s a shallow, knee jerk reaction that they don’t take any responsibility for. There’s a complete lack of Ne to balance it. It’s like the world doesn’t exist to please or displease your weird opinions lol. There are some faux pas maybe, like wearing a t shirt to a funeral or something, but having an ick because someone is an only child? Go see a psychiatrist

    • @potapotapotapotapotapota
      @potapotapotapotapotapota 19 днів тому +1

      Yes you are overthinking it. There's always subtlety in people's opinions. It's not always a tribal shame game. It could be their truth, it could be a joke. Who knows. But unless someone is getting hurt then don't take it too seriously.

  • @Glurmp
    @Glurmp 22 дні тому +7

    Finally a non intj!!

  • @benquinn3719
    @benquinn3719 22 дні тому +1

    Not sure if you know this but Steven is Taylor's boss.

  • @Krymna_730
    @Krymna_730 22 дні тому +3

    Does it actually hurt more with emotions? You keep bringing it up about how the Fi is worse beacuse it's chemical, so it's more volatile, but it seems like the chemicals your brain produces when your identity is somehow "jabbed", like the cortisol and the oxytocin or whatever, would be the same. I cannot imagine an ISTP for instance not getting the same type of blood rush and their ears ringing when someone criticizes their ideas. They are, chemically bound to their ideas as we are to our values. No?

    • @tfranc347
      @tfranc347 21 день тому +1

      I think you’re right, I think it’s the same whether your identity is Fi or Ti. And I think you point out so clearly how hard it is to understand your opposite introverted decider function. The extroverted decider function is the one with fewer chemicals in general, so for them it’s Te. It’s a throwaway. But it’s the same for Fe. Fe is just the Te version of Fi lol and vise versa

  • @d.k.s.5919
    @d.k.s.5919 22 дні тому +1

    ISFJ is the personality that likes me the least. I'm INFP

  • @Lu-ot8hs
    @Lu-ot8hs 5 днів тому

    I have grear ISFJ's in my family , from doctors to lawyers to nurses , but THIS ISFJ lady is beyond annoying 😅

  • @denisesiddon7241
    @denisesiddon7241 22 дні тому +8

    I'm FI and can't understand FE rules. Just like whatever you want.
    There's an ick about being an only child? Just maybe their parents couldn't have more
    Everyone has their own reasons for everything

    • @caiden3396
      @caiden3396 22 дні тому +6

      Yeah, Taylor's jokes felt mildly annoying. How is having or being an only child an ick? Aside from only child syndrome which is just someone being too attention seeking. And that Lord of the Rings joke didn't feel very relatable. Having an Instagram page for a pet also doesn't necessarily feel offputting. Clapping when a plane lands, though? That feels too cheesy.

    • @denisesiddon7241
      @denisesiddon7241 22 дні тому

      @caiden3396 I had a Facebook page for a hamster once so an Instagram page for a pet is no way off putting

    • @tfranc347
      @tfranc347 22 дні тому +2

      Right. It just feels completely idiotic. The real ick is having an ick and not taking responsibility for it. And maybe also being rude to service personnel lol

    • @denisesiddon7241
      @denisesiddon7241 22 дні тому +1

      @tfranc347 I have every empathy for them. I work alongside them and shocked at how poorly they are treated
      imo the real icks are lack of values greed and inability to think for yourself

    • @tfranc347
      @tfranc347 22 дні тому +1

      @denisesiddon amen to that

  • @potapotapotapotapotapota
    @potapotapotapotapotapota 19 днів тому +2

    Masculine Fe types are my least favourite type

    • @tfranc347
      @tfranc347 18 днів тому

      Me too I think. They’re just too much

  • @Rhygenix
    @Rhygenix 22 дні тому +5

    That just made me dislike her

  • @DRK0114
    @DRK0114 16 днів тому +1

    That lady annoys me

  • @booga8739
    @booga8739 22 дні тому +1

    Damn, you guys really don't know what you are talking about. Taylor is Te Dom, Fe last. Ick is related to Fi, she is Fi inferior. Used to think you guys were specialists on NTJ, but now you cannot even spot one and completely mistype her ISFJ. Watch something, anything besides this one interview.

    • @anandaalvarez4336
      @anandaalvarez4336 20 днів тому +1

      I think she is ENFP but you still have a point about she having Te

    • @booga8739
      @booga8739 20 днів тому

      @@anandaalvarez4336 thanks, yeah ENFP and ENTJ can be confused especially if ENFP has strong Te. If you watch all her specials and interviews it is pretty clear she is T vs F. She's very calculated and not stream of consciousness the way Ne Doms are.

    • @anandaalvarez4336
      @anandaalvarez4336 20 днів тому

      @@booga8739 I will, do you recommend any special or any specific interview?

  • @AmbientDisguise
    @AmbientDisguise 22 дні тому +3

    This is one of the many reasons why Colbert has a TV show and I don’t.
    I like her as a comedian, but I’m old enough to know as soon as she started (even whether it was or wasn’t) joking snarky-ness after Colbert got opinion based answers somehow wrong, I would have become extremely passive aggressive about turning personal preferences into a conformity competition. Jokes about such a premise being akin to trying to relive high school days when conformity was perceived as some sort of worth would have been trying to pry open my gritted teeth hidden behind a professional smile. 🫥

    • @caiden3396
      @caiden3396 22 дні тому +3

      Yeah, it was annoying how she did that. It didn't feel like jokingly messing with someone like "You don't like this thing that EVERYONE likes? I can't even look at you.🤮I thought we were friends!" as though nonconformity isn't necessarily bad. Instead, her jokes felt too pandering and conformist.