Please do Neil Armstrong and his interview after going to the MOON. Peter soandso (Hyatt ?) said he is deceptive. That's ok until there. But then he gives a reason for the deception: that he cannot speak about this mission, but that he still went to the MOON. imo i believe statement analysis can point out deception but can never for sure say why someone is deceptive. (Also take a look at the press conference of the three astronots after coming back from the moon. The body language and verbal language is... well, you are the experts here.) Thank you for considering.
PLEASE DO ED KEMPER TOO...he thinks he can fool anyone.... i am betting u guys wont be fooled by his intelligence and charm... i have seen like 100 requests for big ol' ed in the comment section this past year... i'd be on cloud 9 if i sign on one of these days and see it "new video... ed kemper: was he truly remorseful? or something like that... he did so many interviews but one of them he cries..and it looked genuine to me but i am not near as good or experienced as u guys are at this stuff! PLEASE! i know how many people want to see this and have been waiting a long time.. i sure appreciate your hard work and i respect you all immensely...when i get paid in a week i'm going to give a thank you donation $$$$ love u guys!! keep rockin' \m/ \m/
Umm I think psychopaths.have emotions just they are screwed to only to themselves they don't have the ability to put the shoe onto the other foot so to speak no impathy and no sympathy.
I agree!!! Please do Ed Kemper. I've studied the start of the BAU in the FBI and I find it compelling. I believe any information gathered from these diabolical human beings is useful and can eventually lead to a better understanding and hopefully earlier diagnosis to prevent them from killing.
Just a shoutout to the person who is doing the video layouts/editing and presentation - love the way it's been done - showing the clips as they are talked about. Helps a lot. Thank you 👏❣
I say this as a compliment: -psychopaths really bring out the best of you guys. Keep ‘em coming! Not the psychopaths, the analysis of them of course… Love y’all ❤
Dr. Dobson wasn't playing Bundy; he thought he'd found the perfect example that fit his narrative. Dobson's naivety is obvious, when he says, "That touches you deeply, doesn't it?" No, Dr. Dobson, it doesn't! It's as though Dobson can't fathom anyone reacting differently to killing another person than he would. He imagines how horrible he himself would feel if he had killed someone. He (Dobson) would be deeply remorseful. Dr. Dobson was a good man, but here he was naive.
Dr. Dobson realized that he had been duped and later acknowledged it. He is not so naive now that he has become more street smart. I guess this taught him that psychopaths cannot be trusted!
Chase oh my gosh !!! Dorthy Lewis is the one who testified in the Gannon Stautch case that his evil step mother, that killed him ,had disassociate disorder (multiple personality disorder) . I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE IF YOU GUYS ANALYZED HER TESTIMONY!! She was the biggest idiot I’ve ever seen!! It was also so sad and disgusting she tried to help that evil demon get off. I felt so embarrassed for the family( am I saying that correctly , or is it I should be embarrassed for the defense in that case) please analyze that testimony. I guarantee so many people would watch. Thank you and love all four of you.
Absolutely terrifying. Something Chase said really got me - that he, too, might be fooled by someone like this if he'd engaged in a brief casual conversation (paraphrasing) with the guy. As a woman, I'm always on my guard, but one thing that usually disarms me is people who seem to be self-aware. This guy was intelligent, cunning, and *presented* as being aware of his flaws and failings. If I'd met someone like this in a social setting...hells, bells... I hate to think. What you guys do isn't just entertaining or interesting, it's really important.
Thank you, Chase for adding that even you could "fall" for him, and not see immediately he's a psychopath. Being a psychologist myself, I've struggled many years with "falling" for the lies and stories of a narcissist and pathological liar, being in an intimate relationship for a long time with them. Even though it ended many years ago, I'm still struggling with the idea of "how could I not have seen this, I'm even a psychologist". Your remark helps me. So thank you!
The average person doesn't specialise in deception and pantomime, however once the sadistic violent psychopath crosses the line, he must disguise himself or risk capture.
I think the idea of being a true psychopath is SO foreign to most of us that even people with loads of training don't realize what they're experiencing, in the beginning. I'm kinda paraphrasing Martha Stout's book, here.
Dobson was my Sunday school teacher. The point was that porn dehumanizes people. He used Bundy for his fear campaign. He did the same thing with Magic the Gathering, and Dungeons and Dragons. Two manipulators were at work here. For the record, porn is dehumanizing. It doesn't make you Bundy, though.
Having studied Bundy I can add to the "kimberly Leach" issue - the murder Bundy said he "could not talk about." Bundy did days of interviews with homicide detectives Bob Keppel Ph. D and Hugh Aynesworth when he was in Florida State Pententiary. This was quite some time before he would be executed. Bundy repeated the same thing for this reason..... In another book "The Riverman - Ted Bundy and I hunt for the Green River Killer" by Bob Keppel (thhe definitive book on serials by the way - a masterful tome) Bundy explained that certain kills are OK and certain kills are not OK. Each killer has their own "code" by which they operate (as foreign as such a code is to a non-serial killer, it exists). Gary Ridgeway (the Green River Killer) said much the same when confessing and being asked about his victims another victim was mentioned to him and Ridgeway said: "I take pride in my work, that one wasn't me." Bundy killed by a code, his own - but still - and that code allowed him to "justify in his own mind" the taking of that life. He could reason that they deserved it. The 12 year old Leach did not fit his code. He never spoke of it - not matter what was offered him. It also LOWERED him in status (hey Mark - I said "status - LOL) in prison and in the eyes of other serials. The taking of a 12 year old life is not respected among serials. Bundy saw himself as higher status than the Riverman (Ridgeway) because Ridgeway selected "easy" victims: prostitutes. Easy to get in the car and not likely to be missed very soon. Bundy's victims on the other hand were harder targets: college co-eds who would be reported missing very soon after abduction. Bundy believed his game was better than Ridgeways although he gave Ridgeway respect for the fact that "once he makes his move, no one really gets away from him" (although one did - and one for Bundy too). Anyhow, the 12 year old lowers his respect and that's why he has refused to detail that murder. It is not the most heinous and he did not have sex with that body, he did much worse to others, but the age is the reason. She is not a "good kill." And the "other thing" beside the pornography contributing to his killing that Greg (I think it was Greg) wanted to ask what it was: it was the rejection by his higher status girlfriend/fiance when they began university. That was his event. And he killed in her image - killing her over and over again - that was "justified" to him. The little Leach girl was not a "good kill" and other prisoners are much the same. No matter how cold and psychopathic, if you make a bad kill - you generally can't talk about it. That's what he meant. And he meant it. It's not this interview it's been the whole time - all the interviews, even when he started to give up information in an attempt to save himself (or at least give himself a stay of execution for some months) he refused the same way. Fascinating read on Bundy by the Panel. Thoroughly enjoyed it just wanted to add some detail from someone who studied many serials and Bundy and Ridgeway in particular.
Fascinating! I never realized that serials could take pride in their work… it’s obvious now that you’ve illuminated the whole “good kill/bad kill” issue. Wow. It’s almost like “The Most Dangerous Game” brought to life… 😳
Bundy killed a girl when he was 14, long before his college girlfriend. I read that Kimberly Leach was sexually violated, especially considering how her body was found. No inmate wants fellow inmates to know they've hurt kids, they are the ones with the codes, not serial killers. In the grand scheme of things, in prison serial killers move down on the food chain.
As to sound? I think he isn't very articulate- seems to know his craft, but getting it into coherence for the viewers is a struggle for him. All four are a good match for each other though, a great model for teaching this subject to others, and I watch all the time.
Hes not wrong. Violent porn is extremely damaging to the psyche. Also, not a good idea to dehumanize him or any psychopath. A psychopath is a diagnosis for a human being...not an animal. Dehumanizing a person based on their horrible personality or diagnosis or disgusting behavior negates the fact that human beings behave very badly. They frequently have ill intent, not all to this extreme but still. I believe there is very good psychology to support the dangers of calling humans beasts, animals or inhuman. Not for their sake, but for your mental health and perspective. Just a thought I hope you'll consider. This is in no way a defense of bundy or dobson.
As you watch Ted Bundy you start to get the uneasy feeling that he looks and sounds exactly like so many career politicians… it’s no wonder why we are always at war.
He can't talk about the victims because he gets some type of arousal from thinking about what he did. His muscles move under his skin when he is asked about the victims, like a snake on an ant bed.
As a former meth addict and survivor of domestic violence, no amount of drugs or addiction can make you harm someone unless that’s already who you are. All of these external excuses are very common for abusers and psychopaths. My ex blamed drugs and demons for beating and raping me as well. While I do believe he had demons, so did I, but I never harmed anyone in those ways. Worst I ever did was mean words, and I feel bad enough for that.
Agreed, it is not the drugs that kills the addict , it is the people that prey on you while your high. Example Amber Heard taking pictures of her harmless , very high and sleeping husband. She is evil for wanting to show her husband in unflattering light that is not love. Johnny was sick with addiction at that time. Evil is forever whether you watch porn , get high or drink those variables can be controlled. Just like IQ, sociopathy is certain and resilient to treatment or change. AC is right no substance could make me a moral person hurt someone. Myself maybe but never anyone else . I used to party socially I stopped because there is always someone looking to drug your drink and /or do you dirty in some way. However, I must admit violent pornography bothers me as a product. While I can't blame it Japan has a very accepted cultural pocket of violent video games, anime and pornography but very low crime rate. So sorry for the ramble , Iam all over the place. Enjoy rest of the weekend everybody.
Ted used to answer a suicide hotline. Ted was a director at the Seattle Crime Prevention Advisory Commission and even wrote a rape prevention pamphlet. He worked for political campaigns while going to law school. Ted was ambitious. Hannibal Lecter was loosely based off of Ted Bundy. Bundy offered the FBI to look at the case files for the Green River killer, Gary Ridgeway, whom Bundy called the 'River man'. Thomas Harris who wrote Silence of the Lambs used that offer to suppose and create Hannibal Lecter. Interestingly enough as Ted's execution loomed ever closer Ted would offer to give detectives more information about body locations to buy more time. But there was one thing they asked him about that Ted denied, yet we know is true: Ted went back and had sex with the corpses. Same with Gary Ridgeway. When asked about some of the post mortem activity that we know happened, putting on make up, inserting things inside the corpse's body Ridgeway denied doing it. Strange. Ted wasn't being entirely honest here, obviously. Ted was born a killer. When he was 5 yrs old he had an aunt visiting he and his mom. 5 yrs old!! When his aunt woke up after her first night there 5 yr old Ted saw an opportunity and got all the steak knives out of the silverware drawer and laid them all out around her sleeping body with the points pointed towards her body. I know what I was doing when I was 5 yrs old and it wasn't that. I was enjoying my parents' Beatles records. Not fantasizing about death. Nobody taught him that. The little fucker was born that way.
Really good comment! The knives around his aunt! I think he lied from beginning to end. If pornography created serial killers, now with the internet and the ease anyone could watch it, we should be over run with serial killers. I read recently that sociopaths are made from environmental factors but psychopaths were born that way. Honestly Ted is so self serving, blaming everything and everything except himself. Makes my skin crawl.
I thought Buffalo Bill was based on Ted Bundy , remember the scene where he was trying to put something in the back of the van and couldn’t do it, he had a fake cast on his arm as well.
@@salx7252 Look for videos on you tube by slotjaw a set of 11 videos on Ted Bundy’s execution the last 2 videos is basically a talk fest of psychologist, psychiatrist and James Dobson trying to explain what made Ted Bundy do the things he did, there was one person that question Ted influence on violent programming on cable TV, basically said that cable TV was in its infancy when Ted Bundy started killing people. So there another Ted Bundy smokescreen.
Bundy's warning about how pornography can lead some into depravity seems to be born out by recent evidence. Some people, especially men, start to go down the rabbit hole of seeking out ever more extreme pornography, taboos become normal until some, a very small number, take the ultimate taboos of rape, violence and paedophilia.. The sheer volume and availability of pornography in 2024 isn't great for society.. on any level.
I seriously burst out laughing when Scott said, "wherever he is, he's looking up at us right now." 🤣 Ted Bundy has always been a fascination to me. Because I remember when I was a kid, my aunt calling us from Florida to tell us to be careful because he had escaped. We were living in fear until he was recaptured for the last time. I just wish he could've been studied more. But this video was so great, because it really shows us a more in depth view of who and what he really was. Great video.
You are absolutely right! Even monsters don't deserve to be killed, they need therapy; they need to be analysed and researched. That way a stronger profiling can be made for the next nutjob... Ted Bundy was an insane person; why not use him to detect the next one? I am against 'capital punishment; it allows people to believe that your government killing people allows you to do the same...
Wanting his ashes scattered on his dump site 'Taylor Mountain' I mean, c'mon!! Does that sound remorseful? Even in his own death he wanted to revisit his poor victims! It says it all!!!!
I watched the Netflix documentary about Ted Bundy. Denise Naslund’s mother was interviewed. She was completely destroyed by what he did. Her grief was heart wrenching. Think of all the other parents who lost their beautiful daughters. Let us not forget the parents who still have missing daughters that he probably killed but never confessed to. Evil beyond belief.
That's exactly right , 😢, The daily living nightmares these poor parents couldn't wake up from is without doubt the worst kind of living hell any human should ever ever ever have to endure, I know I for one don't think I could have ever coped day after day living the last moment of my much loved daughter again & again, this would most definitely sent me straight to the nut house, it's been 36 years since that monster was put to sleep, there was no such luxury afforded those poor poor parents sadly, THEY the parents of those innocent young women served a much harder sentence than the evil vile disgusting pig Ted Bundy ever did, The vile repulsive evil sick hunt!
Mark, you are exactly right about Jim Dobson using Bundy’s lies for his own purpose. I knew Dobson personally and he was just as slick with his ideology.
He only refers to the addiction in its relation to society, and how society creates these circumstances that lead to the instances such as himself. No remorse.
I truly believe that porn can push people to commit these vile acts of violence and murder. A particular kind of people, such as narcissists and people with borderline personality disorder and antisocial personality disorder and others. It’s completely the perpetrators fault for giving in to those vile desires, but they can be fueled by an addiction to hardcore violent porn and slasher movies etc etc. And unfortunately today most kids have access to this garbage right in their hands, and even on a computer in their bedrooms or even the family computer sitting in the living room. Parents need to be more aware of this. Years ago they used to call it porn creep. That was where men watched so much porn that they became unable to perform sexually with their partners without having porn playing over her shoulder. So why wouldn’t we believe that watching hours of hardcore violent porn wouldn’t cause certain people to become sexually violent? I appreciate Dr. Dobson for trying to warn parents about this thing in their homes and in the hands of their children that could cause them to become another Ted Bundy. But these are four men who probably watch porn themselves so they don’t want to think about that. Or to have it taken away from them. Even as a Christian I don’t blame porn for “making” him do those vile things. But I truly believe it can push these people over the edge and cause them to want to go further than just passively watching. It desensitizes them. He is a monster and monsters do exist. And these monsters can be desensitized to their own monstrous thoughts and feelings and then become violent sexual murderous monsters. Yes Dr. Dobson has an agenda. But that agenda is noble and righteous, to keep violent sexual porn out of the hands of children. I want it done away with completely. It’s harmful to the people who consume it and to the often times young women who are in these movies and involved in sex work. These 4 men are downplaying the effects of violent sexual porn. My question is why?
If you confront people like Bundy they will break that nice guy facade pretty damn quick.. lol. Example,... If this interviewer would have said, *"Well Ted, millions of people have viewed violent pornography and don't kill others. Why was it that you were so weak as to let it control you?"...* You would have seen the REAL Ted Bundy shortly after that statement... lol
You're so right. I've read that serial killers have a deep seated, pathological sense of inadequacy, so they kill to feel a sense of specialness and power. That question would have sent him reeling, for sure.
I don't care how many preachers or priest tells Bundy he can be forgiven, but one has to be repentant to receive forgiveness. Trust me, Bundy nearly knocked the gates of hell off its hinges when he got there.
I disagree about repentance needed for forgiveness. But I'm not speaking onntwemsnof religion. I think forgiveness can only come from thw pwraon/pwoplw who were hurt in some way. And you can forgive people who aren't necessarily sorry. It's about letting go of that negative energy. I personally speak as someone who has had endured a lot of trauma, abuse, and had C-PTSD... And it's not easy at all. And it doesn't mean having to forget what they didnto you and the pain. It's more not letting it eat at you from the inside. Just my take. Everyone is free to feel how they want. I also believe as far as any sort of afterlife and what happens beyond life here on earth depends on many factors including state of mind... some people litealy don't understand why or how what they did was wrong and I can't say thwy arw just as bad as people who know ans don't care. So I think of thinga like... Was malice involved? Empathy? Mental comprehension? But I don't believe anything is truly ever black and white. There are always shades of grey. Again, only my feelings and perspective
But for the record, I believe in some sort of "heaven" and "hell" (I am open-minded and admit I don't have the exact answers. But I 1000% think Ted Bundy is in no sort of "heaven". I spoke my last comment in general. Ted Bundy, as is spoken about here but the panel, that Ted Bundy is a very textbook version of psychopathy and everything that comes out of his mouth is studied and carefully used to manipulate the people around him. We are all capable of developing empathy to aomw extent (it comes more natural to some... I myself am an Empath) but even people who didn't come by it naturally can learn and develop true empathy. I believe Ted Bundy had no interest in empathy. He only cares about himself and how he wants to be perceived in the moment. I spoke about everything having grey areas and nothing being black and white? I stand by that, but Bundy is so dark a quick glance and it would look black to most. His grey areas are even fewer and more sparse than other killers and people we view as "evil" due to awful, hurtful, selfish behavior. Again, just what I perceive personally. I'm an empath and a psych nerd haha.
Hell isn't real, and if it is, and he is there, so will all of us. All of us sin, and if you sin, you go to hell. That is, if you don't believe that simply believing in Jesus as your savior will save you. Just know the same applies to you if that's your belief. So make sure to say hey when you see him 👍💯
Idk. I don't believe in judging where anyone goes after death due to me not being in that realm yet nor am I a god. However, I think Bundy would be more fearful of being reborn in a never ending cycle of being a victim of a serial killer.
Hi guys! I look forward to new videos each week and love the content. I thought I would ask if you all might consider doing Alex Murdaugh at some point (just indicted recently). As always, thank you for all that you do. 😊
@@TheBehaviorPanel There are some jailhouse phone call recordings that have come out, but no video interviews that I’m aware of. He is definitely an interesting case study.
@thebehaviorpanel Maybe the 911 call when he found his son and wife? When I first heard it I thought about Marks damsel in distress voice “Help me Help” 😅 but it’s probably too short for a whole video analysis.
I've never seen Bundy as charming. He comes off to me as any other slimy, lying, fake "politician" persona. Even his intelligence - it's on a scale of peers like Gein lol.
Thank you! He wasn't handsome (looks like a beady-eyed weasle to me) or particularly intelligent. At least my understanding was, he was a mediocre student. He was just a con artist and bullshitter - a sociopath for sure - but I just can't see these characteristics that the media kept blathering about! 🙄
I had to watch this one in segments - he was so evil he still makes me ill. I was in a bereavement group with a lady who lost her daughter to this monster. You know it’s bad when you think at least my daughter was an accident and no one meant her harm vs the vicious acts perpetrated on her daughter
That’s terrible, I’m so sorry for you loss. I also can’t imagine living with the wondering but losing a child full stop is an unimaginable level of pain. Academically, I find him riveting. In reality, he horrifies me because I am 100% convinced that he was an irredeemable, sadistic animal and I just wish he’d been put down earlier. Much earlier.
I was disappointed by the panel's expectations of Dr. Dobson--a Christian psychologist, not a criminal behavioralist. I remember this interview in real time--although I listened on the radio. I remember the build up for it as Dr. Dobson stating that he didn't know if he was genuine or not, but that they had decided to give him a chance to speak about the dangers of violent pornography. He never professed to know if Ted Bundy had changed or not. Mark seems under the mistaken impression that Dr. Dobson was a politician. During this time in history I doubt I'd ever heard of the study of behavior. I find the panel to be more judgmental of a large portion of the world's population with this one. Dr. Dobson was never the type of interviewer that the panel seemed to have expected. But people who knew the show would have been able to take it FWIW. But back then, more people thought for themselves and we were kind of opposed to group think. Ted Bundy was a monster and I hear Dr. Dobson say so myself. I was glad he did the interview and was glad to have heard it. I don't fault them for running it. Ted Bundy approached him to interview him. It looks like Dr. Dobson was used, but I never heard him justify a single word of Bundy's, either before or after this interview.
Agreed on this one. I was disappointed at the seemingly biased "agenda" the commenters made about Dobson. I am not a religious right wing nut but seemed like anything Dobson did or said was criticized as opposed to the panel's usual describing their observations of the main subject's behavior.
I'm glad Greg emphasized Bundy's apparent amusement while discussing his own bad actions. This seems a reliable cue you may be dealing with someone dangerous.
I noticed a few times he struggled to hide his sickening delight and the often smirk of glee could clearly be seen , yet his words told a different story ,
Ted Bundy just proved why he’s the most “famous” psychopath. That smile he was trying to hide when asked about the little 12-year-old girl just sent shockwaves into my spine. Geez, this person is a lot of work. That’s why I am interested of psychology - how the brain works is just fascinating.
I remember the panel saying, “A psychopath isn’t a wolf in sheep’s clothing. He’s a wolf in YOUR clothing.” Ted Bundy is mirroring Dr. Dobson and the Doc was so obsessed with his own agenda, Bundy reeled him right in. One person controlled every second of that interview, and it wasn’t Dobson.
I was born in Georgia and was about 11 years old when Bundy escaped and was making his way to Florida. I remember my dad staying home from work and driving us kids to school with a shotgun in the front seat. Animal is right, gentlemen. He was rabid and instilled fear in thousands.
It must have been awful for you. I live in England and my young cousin lived in Leeds in Yorkshire when the Yorkshire Ripper was on the loose. He instilled fear in thousands here too.
I personally find Ted Bundy one of the scariest serial killers. The reason is that he comes across as so charming and fallible. When he used to use his bad arm routine to get a girl to help him put items in his car, I could have easily been one of those helpful girls. I have watched this interview a couple of times now, it was the night before his scheduled execution. He is very mesmerizing, I feel he draws you in, I can see him doing this to gain control over his victims, this I feel is the psychopath in him. Very scary.
I completely agree, He suckered the young unsuspecting women right into his trap, this is utterly scary, because as the guys say , people always tend to judge others from what they themselves are like, unfortunately not everyone are good people, case in point , But this post is a must watch for women of all ages, it's absolutely shocking & horrific but it opens the eyes and alerts all the right instincts that many many young & older women become complacent about, In my younger days , US young lady's wouldn't ever leave each other alone to get home from a night out, we just never done that, even back in the eighty's we never went anywhere alone, it was always as a group, even in our home town , it's a sad fact but true , this 21st century isn't anywhere near as safe as it used to be, I'm trying my hardest to remind my mother, sister & young nieces of this blatant fact daily,
Ted Bundy definitely did his homework regarding Dr. Dobson. He knows Dobsons passion was raising good children and creating healthy families. He played it well.
Maybe it is just because I have read about Ted Bundy, have a friend who was a member of the sorority that he ravaged in Florida, have watched shows, but I can't see the charmer or the good-looking guy people say he was. He just gives me the creeps - the voice, the looks, everything.
Sadly, Mark Bowden is a bit naive in this clip. Pornography addiction is real. It is an actual addiction, and this is not some sort of political propaganda. Pornography is incredibly damaging to relationships, and individuals, and society as a whole. That is not a POLITICAL presumption, but what is actually been demonstrated repeatedly. I have worked with pornography addicts, and while I am not going to say every person who watches porn will become a serial killer, as that is not true, but it is equally not true to ignore the harm that pornography causes. I know too well the role pornography has played in multiple individuals who did chase that elusive high from fantasy to acting their fantasies out in reality. That is a very common pathway, and the pattern of escalation is real.
Citation please? Never heard that before. Are there academic studies on pornography addiction? There is sex addiction. Is that what you are talking about? Would love to know, thanks.
As a Christian, I am appalled at Dr. Dobson’s acceptance of Bundy’s “easy believing” towards salvation without true repentance. Bundy’s repeating empty words of a prayer, without experiencing true repentance before God, is a mockery. He did not die a Christian. In this interview, Bundy showed no remorse for what he did and skirted around taking real responsibility for what he did. In Galatians 6:7, it says, “Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.” God sees the true intent of our hearts no matter what our lips may flippantly repeat to appease or manipulate people.
There is more to it than what this interview or the Panel revealed. Dr. Dobson admitted to not being able to say assuredly that Bundy had been saved, and he admitted later that he had been duped by Bundy. He knows now that psychopaths are good liars.
The vibe I got from his refusal to talk about murdering was that it was too enjoyable for him and he knows he cannot share that with society if he want to have a shot at continuing his life. I also particularly „love“ his little dig at the families of his victims, because if they can’t forgive him that’s a failing on their part… apparently.
This was a fascinating and spot on analysis. In the fall of 1974 I was going to be a freshman student at the U of Washington in Seattle. That summer was when Bundy first began his murderous rampage, and some of the killings took place in the neighborhood of the UW campus. My parents were freaking out, no doubt because they were worried that I - a shy, sheltered, naive girl from Seattle’s north end - would present a perfect temptation for a psychopath like Bundy. At the time, I thought they were being overly protective, and yet … It still makes me shudder all these years later.
I think he's using the interviewer to mirror his "story" back to him. He's grasping at straws to leave a "message" with his legacy. There's something of a seduction in his relating style. There was NOTHING NORMAL about the life he lived. For him to claim that is ludicrous. He can't name a single emotion. Where was the shame, horror or grief after his first murder? Then, he had to hide who he was from everyone after that. That's not normal, or "good".
I agree wholly agree with Greg regarding when Bundy starts to react to being questioned about Killing that 12 yr old girl. You can almost see the excitement begin to run through his mind, and Bundy KNOWS he cannot truly hide all of his " Tells". That is scary, sickening, and I could see the true lack of humanity in his heart.
This not only sheds a light on just how disgusting Ted Bundy was, but also how disgusting people can be to use a psychopath for their own agenda. If that's the extreme you need to take, there is a good chance what you are pushing is crazy.
@@alswedgin9274 their analysis is based of off studies of all kinds of cultures. From America to even tribes with no contact with the rest of the world. We have been communicating for much longer than we have spoken languages, and we still show these communications subconsciously. Yes they can be biased when it comes to assumptions about things, but they do a great job of focusing on the actual behaviours themselves. When it comes to analysing other languages, yes they wouldnt be able to if they didn't know the language. They have stated before that people who study and practice behavioural analysis speak multiple languages for this reason.
The part where he is asked about what he felt after murdering that 12-year-old girl, I think the reason why he wouldn't talk about it is that it gave him so much joy and pleasure that he knows it would be impossible for him to hide it. Rapture would have been all over his body and face. That's my take on that.
Similar to why Nikolas Cruz at his current sentencing trial has been wearing a face mask pulled high over his nose while nobody around him is wearing any mask at all. His attorneys don't want his smiles and other telling facial expressions to give away his lack of remorse, sympathy, guilt and shame.
That's horrifying & heartbreaking. That poor, poor, precious, innocent baby girl. 💔 (And all of the poor, poor, precious, innocent victims of this demon. 💔) It's heartbreaking & very difficult to _even think about_ the terror, the helplessness, the pain, the revulsion, the confusion, & the cold, lonely, hideous ending that precious, beautiful, innocent, helpless little Kimberly Leach met--at the hands of a demon in human form. I pray, fervently that Kimberly-- *_(& EVERY SINGLE ONE_*_ of the victims of this monster, & of _*_ALL_*_ monsters, & of _*_ALL_*_ terrifying & painful experiences & deaths,_ past, present, & future--& may there be *_ABSOLUTELY NO MORE_* future horrors, nor future deaths at the hands of *_ANY_* kinds of monsters, of *_ANY_* kind, *_EVER AGAIN...)_* --was able to _absolutely & completely_ dissociate from what she had to endure, & that she lost consciousness very, very quickly, & very, very fully & completely, & that her experiences & death were as _free of pain & fear as _*_remotely possible._* May she rest in peace, freedom, & Joy for Eternity. My heart is broken & aching thinking of what her poor parents went through, (...& her siblings?...) & her family, & her friends, & even her community, as well. 💔 May her poor, poor shattered parents, family, friends, & beloveds find whatever comfort & healing may be possible, & strength, support, Light, Hope, & whatever peace may be achievable in such vicious, horrific circumstances. God be with them & hold them tight until they can embrace their sweet, beautiful, cherished daughter, their precious little girl, friend, & beloved Kimberly again. ♥️
Revisiting this one having just watched an incredible interview with Kathy Kleiner Rubin, a woman who survived being attacked by Bundy. He's far from charming. He was a despicable brut. He never "charmed" people into "helping" him, he conned them. Bleurk 😢
Now that Chris Watts mistress Nicole Kessinger , police interviews have been released,can you analyze her body language ? Does she have guilty knowledge of the murders? Was she there?
Dr. Dobson was not fooled. He sat and let Ted spin his yarn and then asked him about murdering children. He knew Ted was full of it. You can’t manipulate the Holy Spirit. What you see as weakness is the complete opposite. Jesus wins against any and all evil
My heart goes out to the young women and girls who were his victims.Their final moments must have been pure terror.Ted was a manipulative, cruel and disgusting person.
It really doesn't bare thinking about , I only hope many many of the ,30 women & young young girls who suffered an unimaginable death at his vile horrific hands ( the 30 he admitted to ! I without doubt know there's many many more, he was an unimaginable MONSTER ! ) my only prayer 🙏 is they were totally unaware and their deaths were instant, with zero suffering, The nightmares these poor poor women & young girls family's must suffer must be horrendous, it would definitely drive me insane , 😢
The grossest thing about Bundy was what he wanted done with his remains. He wanted to be cremated and his ashes spread on Taylor Mountain, where he "...had the best times of [his] life." Taylor Mountain was his favorite dumpsite in Washington, where like 5 of his victims were buried.
He was put to death by people who tried to minimize his pain, fear and humiliation. He put people to death in a way that increased their pain, fear and humiliation as much as possible. He enjoyed it. Always remember that.
For a psychologist to say Bundy shouldn’t have been in jail because he had bipolar personality disorder is like saying a rabid animal shouldn’t be caged because it’s not their fault they have rabies.
Pornography is a fantasy world that can destroy real, productive, intimate relationships It is very isolating..I do believe it shaped his perception of women, his hatred .And I believe our children need to be protected from this, as this addiction causes problems with real intimacy in relationships.
Absolutely agree! It ruins and tarnishes marital relationships, or ANY male/female sexual relationship for that matter, because it definitely portrays a fantasy rather than reality. When either the woman or the man sees the images on the screen, which 99% of the time reflect females and males, especially females, who have altered their own sexual body parts to an unrealistic extreme, this makes the one viewing feel totally inferior and “not good enough” or “not as hot or sexy” as the low life “actresses” or “actors” playing their parts on the screen. You walk away feeling empty and numb after you are exposed to it repeatedly over time. LOSING PROPOSITION NO DOUBT.
Absolutely. I commented that I wish mark had not dismissed it so much. Yes Bundy used it as a scapegoat but that doesn’t mean that pornography isn’t a problem.
I lived across he street from Bundy's first victim near the U WA in Seattle. We lived in fear..great fear of walking to the campus. There were escorts formed to walk with us. Bundy joined the escort service. I am 68 and still constantly check my surroundings all the time. Lost faith in safety purely due to this monster.
3-6 out of 25 will have APSP. The PNW, San Francisco and other large cities are full of psychopaths and sociopaths, only 15-% will be active overt cold blooded criminals. 30-40% of murders in The USA go unsolved except in Illinois 60% of murders go unsolved.
I was twelve years old and was at a Boeing picinic at Lake Sammamish the day one of Ted Bundy victims was kidnapped and murdered. For some reason we produce a lot of psychopaths here in the PNW. We currently have another man accussed of a mass murder in Moscow Idaho, Bryan Kohberger who has a very eerie resemblance to Bundy. Bundy was a lawyer by trade and Kohberger was getting a doctorate in criminal forensics. Kohberger has not gone to trial yet but he gives me the same creeped out feeling that Bundy always gave me.
So interesting, I don't find him in any way charming or erudite, he seems so squirmy and fake - and I really couldn't stand seeing him almost savoring skirting the edge of talking about what he actually did, the way it seemed to almost put him in an ecstasy. I'm not a death penalty fan but this is a good use of it. What a piece of garbage he is and how outrageous for him to say "he's horrified" the next day - why not turn yourself in then so you don't do it again?
You guys are great, as usual. This is a perfect example of why we need you to all be on the screen. Even though the topic is so, so heavy, your comic relief is absolutely superb. I laughed out loud more than once. ("Oh, the humanity!" Priceless!!) Please keep this format. You all have such charisma as a group.
Dobson spent a good deal of time condemning pornography. It was a major part of his career. He might have been using Bundy to emphasise his beliefs about pornography.
I think when asked about murdering the child (about 2 hours in), he said he couldn't talk about it, because a) it would have revealed his unnatural enjoyment arising from recalling the event and b) he actually didn't want to share anything about it because it was his private little memory, for him only and by sharing it, it somehow either diminishes the "special'ness" of it for him or somehow taints it, if he shares it.
Scott (or the new editor) nailed it with the placing the panel along the bottom of the screen while showing the clip one of the guys is talking about.. I loved when you started adding those edits in, but when it was only the clip and the panelist talking, we missed the other three.. not sure why it matters so much, but it does.. I guess it’s just as simple as wanting to see the others concur or laugh etc., but showing everyone during those moments is perfect. I know it’s subtle, but I really appreciate it!
I feel that Dr. Dobson is just allowing Bundy to speak he doesn't need to say anything yet but I bet he does later in private. Pornography has lead many down the evil path not all but many. Dobson see's that Bundy is guilty for what he did which he needs to pay for but Dobson does give Bundy the ability to repent prior to the end of his life the next morning.He does believe in forgiveness, if there is a true repentance but that can only be determined by God. Dr. Dobson is a wise smart man allowing Bundy to decide where he is going in the afterlife.
Ted looked as though he would rip the interviewer apart if given the chance. Can you even imagine being 12 years old, alone with Ted, his eyes lock onto you? He is the things nightmares are made of.
I remember watching parts of the Bundy interview many years ago and feeling disturbed in my spirit over some of the things that were said. Your evaluation today was extremely helpful for me. Your comments along with now 30 years of experience in my own life, help me understand how much of a role Dr Dobson played in that interview. In other words, he was complicit. I consider myself a conservative Christian but in no way do I support what happened in this interview. At least 30 young women and girls were murdered by this man. I come away from the interview realizing that little or no remorse was shown for the gravity of the crimes committed and the devastation to the families. Thank you so much for your insights. They were extremely helpful. Since the interview was done in 1989, I worked for more than 30 years in an environment with a narcissistic psychopath as a boss. I’ve learned so much about how destructive these types of people are. He isn’t a murderer but he damaged many many lives. The skills that you offer and insights certainly help me going forward.
Re Bundy’s facility with psychological terminology: Didn’t he study psychology at around the time he was volunteering at the mental health helpline with writer Ann Rule? In addition, he must have been interviewed by psychologists of varying skill levels hundreds of times during his various arrests, incarcerations, and the FBI “Mindihunter” team analysis. He’s had plenty of opportunities to learn how to make himself sound like he has psychological insight. In addition, it is amusing to hear him adopt the careful word choices (i.e., “sexuality” replaces “desire to rape and murder”) and soothing cadences of a preacher. He is mirroring the style of his interrogator. I’m guessing this thoughtful, measured manner was not present in police interviews, and we know from his few surviving victims that his demeanor and even his appearance was utterly, horribly different during his crimes.
I think he didn't want to talk about the 12 year old little girl he killed, especially towards the end of the interview/"at that time", because bringing up and reminding people he killed a little girl/a child undermines all the hard work he put in up until that point. Just my assessment. Yes, I like that Scott clarified what "taking the Lord's name in vain" actually means. He's using it for vain/self-serving purposes. Like the pastor in a poor neighborhood who wears a Rolex, drives a Lexus, wears Armani suits, and always has a building fund, but no buildings ever gets built. The same type of individual who'd tell you that saying the Lord's name is "taking the Lord's name in vain", so you'd never suspect that he actually is "taking the Lord's name in vain" himself, because if you don't know what "it" actually means you can't identify "it". Another fun fact about psychopaths is that 1 of the top 5 careers psychopaths choose is the clergy. Ultimate authority, and their word is the word of god. They make up a small percentage, but something to be aware of.
In no particular order and a few more, police officer, journalists, media persons, CEO, lawyer, chef, civil servant. All these careers are thought to have "bad-apples", be "sharks", put a "spin" on stories, or give access to people in need. They only make up a small percentage of these careers. We do see systematic problems steming from corruption in all of these careers thought.
This is my favorite episode. I was living in the Seattle area during his reign of terror, and was frightened. But, until you guys showed me emphatically what a truly manipulative monster he was, I am certain as a single young girl going to bars, I never would have recognized the evil in him. I think that’s why for years I was obsessed with him, wondering how he was able to convince so many young girls to fall under his spell. Thank you all for all you do. You have made a difference in my life, I feel I can trust myself more now than ever. A little late in life, but I made it! You guys are the best!
Bundy thinks he’s so clever and special but all his interviews are so boring and full of crap. He says a lot of words but says nothing interesting. Probably also not a coincidence that Mr Burns from the Simpsons looks like Ted bundy.
I think I'd have rather heard Dobson say, "Jesus MIGHT love you, but everyone else thinks you're a demonic a**hole," and then watched to see what his serpent tongue did on that one.
Not a fan of horror movies, but I do love Natural Born killers. I have yet to feel the urge to go on a cross state killing spree. Go figure? I've watched that movie probably a dozen times. Maybe the 13th time will be the charm?
Bundy was hoping for a stay of execution, so he’s basically playing for his life here. He didn’t want to die. He had every intention of being freed, either legally or by escaping. He actually had a huge fan base, was married in jail, and somehow managed to father a child in jail. This guy did not play by the rules, but in the end the rules finally caught up with him. I don’t believe in the death penalty, but I can’t help but be glad that he no longer walks the planet. I do believe he’d somehow manage to kill again. It was a game and an obsession.
@@pauldalnoky6055 this is fascinating… why were you a fan? Are you still a fan? And were you fan coz you thought him being able to kill and get away is what made him “de man” or were you a fan coz you thought he was innocent?
Pure evil! The two segments where he had to try and describe what he was feeling when he committed the murders…chilling! The look in his eyes and that smile he could barely contain….I should have watched this during the day. On a lighter note. You gentlemen are absolutely theeee best! Very knowledgeable and hilarious!!! The mute button shenanigans are my favorite!😂😂😂
I have a whole lot of respect for you guys in general, but I think in this particular case that your dislike for Dr. Dobson is getting in the way of accurately analyzing the interview. It's especially noticeable at the end when at least two of you were really incensed that Dr. Dobson implied he was friends with Ted Bundy... except he didn't imply that at all. He said, "our mutual friend, John Tanner." "Mutual friend" is often used synonymously with "mutual acquaintance" in many circles. It just means there's a person in common that they both communicate with. Anyway, I did find your analysis of Ted Bundy to be enlightening, as usual. And I loved the mute mishap. :D
Bundy was trying to make himself relevant and useful to have his life spared. He thought if he made people think he could help with crime prevention by allowing himself to be analyzed, he wouldn’t be fried in the chair. Bundy couldn’t fathom the concept that he was actually going to lose in the end. In his mind he was always going to get away with everything and live.
The saddest part was when he suggested he was just a normal guy, who happens to have s SMALL problem. As if raping and killing women is just some small, insignificant issue.
You got to love it when Greg compared Casey Anthony to Bundy. Unbelievable and on the mark! I also thought he was reliving things throughout his entire interview, Because when he chose to be his own lawyer and he was cross-examining the police officer and asking him questions that were so bad and damaging his own defense, He was reveling in the moment of his kills and getting off on it.
I completely agree, 👍 That business when he was closing his eyes & licking his lips constantly sent cold cold shivers down my spine, Your right to , the comparison with Casey is spot on, I'm not familiar with the other , But I absolutely thought the very same thing , he was reliving the moments , utterly shocking and chilling to watch , He scares the living crap outta me still , But every woman should listen to their gut instinct, it will never let them down, & they shouldn't ever disregard the red flags that give their guts a sickening jolt, always be ready ,
I misunderstood , I thought you were referring to Casey as in John Wayne Casey, another horrific human , well monster, who's definitely not a human, Just watching the panels opinions of the said Casey you are referring to say this moment , 😮
@@bessqueen-zn3kt Exactly, I read the book by Ann Rule, 'The Stranger Beside Me' He worked with her at a suicide hotline, But after I read that book, I changed the whole way how I looked at life and how I lived it. I'm not kidding either. It probably saved my life.
FASCINATING! Such an interesting dynamic to look at between the two; horrific team work at a fear campaign. Imagine being ok with teaming up with the likes of Bundy. Loved Chase's sum-up at the end. Thank you!
Coming from a household that almost exclusively listened to Focus on the Family while I was growing up, I can tell you it worked too. When my dad discovered this interview, he talked about almost nothing else for like a month and how evil pornography is and how anyone can be pulled into this evil addiction and „who knows what you’re capable of once the evil porn has a hold on you“. He bought it hook, line and sinker.
I don't know much about Dobson, only that he isn't the kind of person I'd ever get along with or want to be around. Still, if I had to choose between being in a locked room with either him or Bundy, I'd take Dobson over that sadistic necrophilic rapist-murderer anytime, any day.
I really wish that one of you guys on the panel would have spoken a little about how sexually violent pornography and the prevalence of it DOES have a detrimental affect on society even though it’s NO excuse for Bundy’s behaviour!
@Lara Cross Hi, my comment was about “sexually violent pornography”. I’m not sure what you are getting at but my comment was directed at the guys on the panel because I was curious about their thoughts on the topic. Since I know they’ve probably done a lot of research into it, definitely more than me. My comment wasn’t directed at every nuff nuff who is going to read into a picture I took two seconds to select because I have a right to some privacy.
@Elizabeth Nicholas That's not what these videos are about. “sexually violent pornography” is a topic in itself separate from analyzing a person's body language.
@@nadine_ghc3465 except that this analysis is NOT strictly kept to his body language only. Elizabeth is reading between the lines and asking questions accordingly, and accurately.
CONTEXT: This was his last interview before Bundy's execution the next day. He tried to bargain his story for a stay of execution but was rejected. Dobson was a preacher on a crusade to end pornography and wanted to interview the most famous murderer and have him say that porno was why he was so rotten. Bundy lept at the chance for one last opportunity to convince folks that he was just a regular guy turned into a monster by forces outside his control. That one bone-chilling moment at 47:00 where he is reliving what he did (yes Greg NAILED IT) makes me very happy that he is now 6-feet under. I think that he was only sorry he could not do it all again.
He was feeding Dobson exactly what he wanted to hear. I'm sure there was some truth to it but he layed it on so thick. As usual he knew his audience and knew what he was trying to get from him.
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Please do Neil Armstrong and his interview after going to the MOON. Peter soandso (Hyatt ?) said he is deceptive. That's ok until there. But then he gives a reason for the deception: that he cannot speak about this mission, but that he still went to the MOON. imo i believe statement analysis can point out deception but can never for sure say why someone is deceptive. (Also take a look at the press conference of the three astronots after coming back from the moon. The body language and verbal language is... well, you are the experts here.)
Thank you for considering.
PLEASE DO ED KEMPER TOO...he thinks he can fool anyone.... i am betting u guys wont be fooled by his intelligence and charm... i have seen like 100 requests for big ol' ed in the comment section this past year... i'd be on cloud 9 if i sign on one of these days and see it "new video... ed kemper: was he truly remorseful? or something like that... he did so many interviews but one of them he cries..and it looked genuine to me but i am not near as good or experienced as u guys are at this stuff! PLEASE! i know how many people want to see this and have been waiting a long time.. i sure appreciate your hard work and i respect you all immensely...when i get paid in a week i'm going to give a thank you donation $$$$ love u guys!! keep rockin' \m/ \m/
Umm I think psychopaths.have emotions just they are screwed to only to themselves they don't have the ability to put the shoe onto the other foot so to speak no impathy and no sympathy.
I agree!!! Please do Ed Kemper. I've studied the start of the BAU in the FBI and I find it compelling. I believe any information gathered from these diabolical human beings is useful and can eventually lead to a better understanding and hopefully earlier diagnosis to prevent them from killing.
Just a shoutout to the person who is doing the video layouts/editing and presentation - love the way it's been done - showing the clips as they are talked about. Helps a lot. Thank you 👏❣
Scott does that I'm sure😊
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So much I love it
I So agree!!! 🤩
Scott’s done a hell of a job. They really did bootstrap this for the love of the game.
I say this as a compliment:
-psychopaths really bring out the best of you guys. Keep ‘em coming!
Not the psychopaths, the analysis of them of course…
Love y’all ❤
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Dr. Dobson wasn't playing Bundy; he thought he'd found the perfect example that fit his narrative.
Dobson's naivety is obvious, when he says, "That touches you deeply, doesn't it?" No, Dr. Dobson, it doesn't! It's as though Dobson can't fathom anyone reacting differently to killing another person than he would. He imagines how horrible he himself would feel if he had killed someone. He (Dobson) would be deeply remorseful.
Dr. Dobson was a good man, but here he was naive.
Dr. Dobson realized that he had been duped and later acknowledged it. He is not so naive now that he has become more street smart. I guess this taught him that psychopaths cannot be trusted!
@@donnapearson466 Oh good! 🙂 Thanks for telling me that! I'm sure Dr. Dobson really wanted to believe that Ted Bundy had given his heart to the Lord.
@@claires8735 No doubt.
Chase oh my gosh !!! Dorthy Lewis is the one who testified in the Gannon Stautch case that his evil step mother, that killed him ,had disassociate disorder (multiple personality disorder) . I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE IF YOU GUYS ANALYZED HER TESTIMONY!! She was the biggest idiot I’ve ever seen!! It was also so sad and disgusting she tried to help that evil demon get off. I felt so embarrassed for the family( am I saying that correctly , or is it I should be embarrassed for the defense in that case) please analyze that testimony. I guarantee so many people would watch. Thank you and love all four of you.
Absolutely terrifying. Something Chase said really got me - that he, too, might be fooled by someone like this if he'd engaged in a brief casual conversation (paraphrasing) with the guy. As a woman, I'm always on my guard, but one thing that usually disarms me is people who seem to be self-aware. This guy was intelligent, cunning, and *presented* as being aware of his flaws and failings. If I'd met someone like this in a social setting...hells, bells... I hate to think.
What you guys do isn't just entertaining or interesting, it's really important.
It was also in a more innocent time when people were more trusting and we hadn’t ever seen a killer like this guy before.
Charm was the key to Ted's success as a serial murderer.
Agreed 💯
You are right- this is important information. We need to be combat ready .
Yes; however- you can't discount the Law of Attraction.
If you were a vibrational match to a psychopath Believe me-- you would have found one. 😉
Thank you, Chase for adding that even you could "fall" for him, and not see immediately he's a psychopath. Being a psychologist myself, I've struggled many years with "falling" for the lies and stories of a narcissist and pathological liar, being in an intimate relationship for a long time with them. Even though it ended many years ago, I'm still struggling with the idea of "how could I not have seen this, I'm even a psychologist". Your remark helps me. So thank you!
The average person doesn't specialise in deception and pantomime, however once the sadistic violent psychopath crosses the line, he must disguise himself or risk capture.
I think the idea of being a true psychopath is SO foreign to most of us that even people with loads of training don't realize what they're experiencing, in the beginning.
I'm kinda paraphrasing Martha Stout's book, here.
True. Seems psychologists are often more gullible than the average person.
I could fall for Chase 😁😁😁💖💖💖
@@gutenbird Uhm, what. How many psychologists do you know compared to the "average persons"?
Dobson was my Sunday school teacher. The point was that porn dehumanizes people. He used Bundy for his fear campaign. He did the same thing with Magic the Gathering, and Dungeons and Dragons.
Two manipulators were at work here.
For the record, porn is dehumanizing. It doesn't make you Bundy, though.
Having studied Bundy I can add to the "kimberly Leach" issue - the murder Bundy said he "could not talk about." Bundy did days of interviews with homicide detectives Bob Keppel Ph. D and Hugh Aynesworth when he was in Florida State Pententiary. This was quite some time before he would be executed. Bundy repeated the same thing for this reason.....
In another book "The Riverman - Ted Bundy and I hunt for the Green River Killer" by Bob Keppel (thhe definitive book on serials by the way - a masterful tome) Bundy explained that certain kills are OK and certain kills are not OK. Each killer has their own "code" by which they operate (as foreign as such a code is to a non-serial killer, it exists). Gary Ridgeway (the Green River Killer) said much the same when confessing and being asked about his victims another victim was mentioned to him and Ridgeway said: "I take pride in my work, that one wasn't me." Bundy killed by a code, his own - but still - and that code allowed him to "justify in his own mind" the taking of that life. He could reason that they deserved it. The 12 year old Leach did not fit his code. He never spoke of it - not matter what was offered him. It also LOWERED him in status (hey Mark - I said "status - LOL) in prison and in the eyes of other serials. The taking of a 12 year old life is not respected among serials. Bundy saw himself as higher status than the Riverman (Ridgeway) because Ridgeway selected "easy" victims: prostitutes. Easy to get in the car and not likely to be missed very soon. Bundy's victims on the other hand were harder targets: college co-eds who would be reported missing very soon after abduction. Bundy believed his game was better than Ridgeways although he gave Ridgeway respect for the fact that "once he makes his move, no one really gets away from him" (although one did - and one for Bundy too). Anyhow, the 12 year old lowers his respect and that's why he has refused to detail that murder. It is not the most heinous and he did not have sex with that body, he did much worse to others, but the age is the reason. She is not a "good kill."
And the "other thing" beside the pornography contributing to his killing that Greg (I think it was Greg) wanted to ask what it was: it was the rejection by his higher status girlfriend/fiance when they began university. That was his event. And he killed in her image - killing her over and over again - that was "justified" to him. The little Leach girl was not a "good kill" and other prisoners are much the same. No matter how cold and psychopathic, if you make a bad kill - you generally can't talk about it.
That's what he meant. And he meant it. It's not this interview it's been the whole time - all the interviews, even when he started to give up information in an attempt to save himself (or at least give himself a stay of execution for some months) he refused the same way.
Fascinating read on Bundy by the Panel. Thoroughly enjoyed it just wanted to add some detail from someone who studied many serials and Bundy and Ridgeway in particular.
Very interesting!
The child was likely a sacrifice to satan
Fascinating! I never realized that serials could take pride in their work… it’s obvious now that you’ve illuminated the whole “good kill/bad kill” issue. Wow.
It’s almost like “The Most Dangerous Game” brought to life… 😳
And hey, Mark ..he said ‘status ‘ as well!!
Bundy killed a girl when he was 14, long before his college girlfriend. I read that Kimberly Leach was sexually violated, especially considering how her body was found. No inmate wants fellow inmates to know they've hurt kids, they are the ones with the codes, not serial killers. In the grand scheme of things, in prison serial killers move down on the food chain.
Great channel! Scott Rouse has the greatest voice ever....anyone agree??
I love Scott’s voice. I wish he would do reading for an app for relaxation :)
Yep, l agree😊
As to sound? I think he isn't very articulate- seems to know his craft, but getting it into coherence for the viewers is a struggle for him. All four are a good match for each other though, a great model for teaching this subject to others, and I watch all the time.
I wanna see your sway-rate when you say that. Hahaha.
Second career as a romance narrator ❤
Hes not wrong. Violent porn is extremely damaging to the psyche.
Also, not a good idea to dehumanize him or any psychopath. A psychopath is a diagnosis for a human being...not an animal. Dehumanizing a person based on their horrible personality or diagnosis or disgusting behavior negates the fact that human beings behave very badly. They frequently have ill intent, not all to this extreme but still. I believe there is very good psychology to support the dangers of calling humans beasts, animals or inhuman. Not for their sake, but for your mental health and perspective. Just a thought I hope you'll consider. This is in no way a defense of bundy or dobson.
As you watch Ted Bundy you start to get the uneasy feeling that he looks and sounds exactly like so many career politicians… it’s no wonder why we are always at war.
yep there all criminals alex jones end game says it all !!!
He can't talk about the victims because he gets some type of arousal from thinking about what he did. His muscles move under his skin when he is asked about the victims, like a snake on an ant bed.
Also, he didn’t want to admit to the last victim because she was a child.
Just look at his crotch...if it's erected, he's a psycho!
Ted Bundy was also the classic example of a sociopath. Textbook, right up there with BTK and Fred West. The victims don't matter to these people.
Agree completely. He can’t keep control of the persona he wants to present and talk about (or relive) the attack.
As a former meth addict and survivor of domestic violence, no amount of drugs or addiction can make you harm someone unless that’s already who you are. All of these external excuses are very common for abusers and psychopaths. My ex blamed drugs and demons for beating and raping me as well. While I do believe he had demons, so did I, but I never harmed anyone in those ways. Worst I ever did was mean words, and I feel bad enough for that.
🌱🙌✨ stay strong my friend. I’m glad you’re here💜
Like i said earlier; sociopaths are made, psychopaths are born. You were strong enough to overcome your emotional troubles and i applaud you for it!
Agreed, it is not the drugs that kills the addict , it is the people that prey on you while your high. Example Amber Heard taking pictures of her harmless , very high and sleeping husband. She is evil for wanting to show her husband in unflattering light that is not love. Johnny was sick with addiction at that time. Evil is forever whether you watch porn , get high or drink those variables can be controlled. Just like IQ, sociopathy is certain and resilient to treatment or change. AC is right no substance could make me a moral person hurt someone. Myself maybe but never anyone else . I used to party socially I stopped because there is always someone looking to drug your drink and /or do you dirty in some way. However, I must admit violent pornography bothers me as a product. While I can't blame it Japan has a very accepted cultural pocket of violent video games, anime and pornography but very low crime rate. So sorry for the ramble , Iam all over the place. Enjoy rest of the weekend everybody.
Ted used to answer a suicide hotline. Ted was a director at the Seattle Crime Prevention Advisory Commission and even wrote a rape prevention pamphlet. He worked for political campaigns while going to law school. Ted was ambitious.
Hannibal Lecter was loosely based off of Ted Bundy. Bundy offered the FBI to look at the case files for the Green River killer, Gary Ridgeway, whom Bundy called the 'River man'. Thomas Harris who wrote Silence of the Lambs used that offer to suppose and create Hannibal Lecter.
Interestingly enough as Ted's execution loomed ever closer Ted would offer to give detectives more information about body locations to buy more time. But there was one thing they asked him about that Ted denied, yet we know is true: Ted went back and had sex with the corpses. Same with Gary Ridgeway. When asked about some of the post mortem activity that we know happened, putting on make up, inserting things inside the corpse's body Ridgeway denied doing it. Strange.
Ted wasn't being entirely honest here, obviously. Ted was born a killer. When he was 5 yrs old he had an aunt visiting he and his mom. 5 yrs old!! When his aunt woke up after her first night there 5 yr old Ted saw an opportunity and got all the steak knives out of the silverware drawer and laid them all out around her sleeping body with the points pointed towards her body. I know what I was doing when I was 5 yrs old and it wasn't that. I was enjoying my parents' Beatles records. Not fantasizing about death. Nobody taught him that. The little fucker was born that way.
Wow, absolutely horrifying.
Really good comment! The knives around his aunt! I think he lied from beginning to end. If pornography created serial killers, now with the internet and the ease anyone could watch it, we should be over run with serial killers. I read recently that sociopaths are made from environmental factors but psychopaths were born that way. Honestly Ted is so self serving, blaming everything and everything except himself. Makes my skin crawl.
I thought Buffalo Bill was based on Ted Bundy , remember the scene where he was trying to put something in the back of the van and couldn’t do it, he had a fake cast on his arm as well.
@@salx7252 Look for videos on you tube by slotjaw a set of 11 videos on Ted Bundy’s execution the last 2 videos is basically a talk fest of psychologist, psychiatrist and James Dobson trying to explain what made Ted Bundy do the things he did, there was one person that question Ted influence on violent programming on cable TV, basically said that cable TV was in its infancy when Ted Bundy started killing people. So there another Ted Bundy smokescreen.
@@WRX2001 I will do thanks very much. :)
Bundy's warning about how pornography can lead some into depravity seems to be born out by recent evidence.
Some people, especially men, start to go down the rabbit hole of seeking out ever more extreme pornography, taboos become normal until some, a very small number, take the ultimate taboos of rape, violence and paedophilia..
The sheer volume and availability of pornography in 2024 isn't great for society.. on any level.
It is horrifying to me
I seriously burst out laughing when Scott said, "wherever he is, he's looking up at us right now." 🤣 Ted Bundy has always been a fascination to me. Because I remember when I was a kid, my aunt calling us from Florida to tell us to be careful because he had escaped. We were living in fear until he was recaptured for the last time. I just wish he could've been studied more. But this video was so great, because it really shows us a more in depth view of who and what he really was. Great video.
You are absolutely right! Even monsters don't deserve to be killed, they need therapy; they need to be analysed and researched. That way a stronger profiling can be made for the next nutjob... Ted Bundy was an insane person; why not use him to detect the next one? I am against 'capital punishment; it allows people to believe that your government killing people allows you to do the same...
Dobson is as bad as Ted. He chewing up every word of bs the psycho says.
Pornography is NOT what made what he was.
I thought Scott said 'looking down' lol.I can't rewatch this to check, argh.😬
@@clarissimaadayinthelifeofa1782 No, believe me, he said "looking up"
Wanting his ashes scattered on his dump site 'Taylor Mountain' I mean, c'mon!! Does that sound remorseful? Even in his own death he wanted to revisit his poor victims! It says it all!!!!
I watched the Netflix documentary about Ted Bundy.
Denise Naslund’s mother was interviewed. She was completely destroyed by what he did. Her grief was heart wrenching.
Think of all the other parents who lost their beautiful daughters.
Let us not forget the parents who still have missing daughters that he probably killed but never confessed to.
Evil beyond belief.
Yes.Agreed.
That's exactly right , 😢,
The daily living nightmares these poor parents couldn't wake up from is without doubt the worst kind of living hell any human should ever ever ever have to endure, I know I for one don't think I could have ever coped day after day living the last moment of my much loved daughter again & again, this would most definitely sent me straight to the nut house, it's been 36 years since that monster was put to sleep, there was no such luxury afforded those poor poor parents sadly, THEY the parents of those innocent young women served a much harder sentence than the evil vile disgusting pig Ted Bundy ever did,
The vile repulsive evil sick hunt!
Mark, you are exactly right about Jim Dobson using Bundy’s lies for his own purpose. I knew Dobson personally and he was just as slick with his ideology.
a non-violent psychopath?
Ibelieve you! Two operators ( self- Serving)!
Yes!
porn kills.
Dobson definitely has an agenda, like most strident Christian Fundamentalists. He’s just as manipulative as Bundy was. What a pair! 🙄😂
“Good thing they found a cure for him, and they cured him the next day.” lmao
Interesting that Bundy never talks about the addiction to murder and in fact, never mentions the word. What a manipulator to the end.
He ‘harmed’ people.
He only refers to the addiction in its relation to society, and how society creates these circumstances that lead to the instances such as himself. No remorse.
@@HettiedeKorteDiplomaat yep and he can't even name them as women and children
I truly believe that porn can push people to commit these vile acts of violence and murder. A particular kind of people, such as narcissists and people with borderline personality disorder and antisocial personality disorder and others. It’s completely the perpetrators fault for giving in to those vile desires, but they can be fueled by an addiction to hardcore violent porn and slasher movies etc etc. And unfortunately today most kids have access to this garbage right in their hands, and even on a computer in their bedrooms or even the family computer sitting in the living room. Parents need to be more aware of this. Years ago they used to call it porn creep. That was where men watched so much porn that they became unable to perform sexually with their partners without having porn playing over her shoulder. So why wouldn’t we believe that watching hours of hardcore violent porn wouldn’t cause certain people to become sexually violent? I appreciate Dr. Dobson for trying to warn parents about this thing in their homes and in the hands of their children that could cause them to become another Ted Bundy. But these are four men who probably watch porn themselves so they don’t want to think about that. Or to have it taken away from them. Even as a Christian I don’t blame porn for “making” him do those vile things. But I truly believe it can push these people over the edge and cause them to want to go further than just passively watching. It desensitizes them. He is a monster and monsters do exist. And these monsters can be desensitized to their own monstrous thoughts and feelings and then become violent sexual murderous monsters. Yes Dr. Dobson has an agenda. But that agenda is noble and righteous, to keep violent sexual porn out of the hands of children. I want it done away with completely. It’s harmful to the people who consume it and to the often times young women who are in these movies and involved in sex work. These 4 men are downplaying the effects of violent sexual porn. My question is why?
@@teresacox2511 That’s why there are millions of Ted Bundy’s running around. The porn made me do it.
If you confront people like Bundy they will break that nice guy facade pretty damn quick.. lol. Example,... If this interviewer would have said, *"Well Ted, millions of people have viewed violent pornography and don't kill others. Why was it that you were so weak as to let it control you?"...* You would have seen the REAL Ted Bundy shortly after that statement... lol
You're so right. I've read that serial killers have a deep seated, pathological sense of inadequacy, so they kill to feel a sense of specialness and power. That question would have sent him reeling, for sure.
As if seeing the real Bundy makes breathing the same air do-able. Gag AND wretch
That interviewer sucked
“Thank god they found a cure for him and they cured him the next day” =Greg Hartley the savage.
His tongue juts remind me of a snake sniffing the air.
He was a snake; a wicked, dangerous black mamba ready to inject others with his poison.
Exactly Narcs have the forked tongue of habitual liar
Do reptiles do it too? I thought he was moving like a reptile.
I don't care how many preachers or priest tells Bundy he can be forgiven, but one has to be repentant to receive forgiveness. Trust me, Bundy nearly knocked the gates of hell off its hinges when he got there.
A Godly sorrow , leads to a Godly repentance. Repentance needed.
I disagree about repentance needed for forgiveness. But I'm not speaking onntwemsnof religion. I think forgiveness can only come from thw pwraon/pwoplw who were hurt in some way. And you can forgive people who aren't necessarily sorry. It's about letting go of that negative energy. I personally speak as someone who has had endured a lot of trauma, abuse, and had C-PTSD... And it's not easy at all. And it doesn't mean having to forget what they didnto you and the pain. It's more not letting it eat at you from the inside. Just my take. Everyone is free to feel how they want. I also believe as far as any sort of afterlife and what happens beyond life here on earth depends on many factors including state of mind... some people litealy don't understand why or how what they did was wrong and I can't say thwy arw just as bad as people who know ans don't care. So I think of thinga like... Was malice involved? Empathy? Mental comprehension? But I don't believe anything is truly ever black and white. There are always shades of grey. Again, only my feelings and perspective
But for the record, I believe in some sort of "heaven" and "hell" (I am open-minded and admit I don't have the exact answers. But I 1000% think Ted Bundy is in no sort of "heaven". I spoke my last comment in general. Ted Bundy, as is spoken about here but the panel, that Ted Bundy is a very textbook version of psychopathy and everything that comes out of his mouth is studied and carefully used to manipulate the people around him. We are all capable of developing empathy to aomw extent (it comes more natural to some... I myself am an Empath) but even people who didn't come by it naturally can learn and develop true empathy. I believe Ted Bundy had no interest in empathy. He only cares about himself and how he wants to be perceived in the moment. I spoke about everything having grey areas and nothing being black and white? I stand by that, but Bundy is so dark a quick glance and it would look black to most. His grey areas are even fewer and more sparse than other killers and people we view as "evil" due to awful, hurtful, selfish behavior. Again, just what I perceive personally. I'm an empath and a psych nerd haha.
Hell isn't real, and if it is, and he is there, so will all of us. All of us sin, and if you sin, you go to hell. That is, if you don't believe that simply believing in Jesus as your savior will save you. Just know the same applies to you if that's your belief. So make sure to say hey when you see him 👍💯
Idk. I don't believe in judging where anyone goes after death due to me not being in that realm yet nor am I a god. However, I think Bundy would be more fearful of being reborn in a never ending cycle of being a victim of a serial killer.
Hi guys! I look forward to new videos each week and love the content. I thought I would ask if you all might consider doing Alex Murdaugh at some point (just indicted recently). As always, thank you for all that you do. 😊
Greg here. WOULD LOVE THAT ONE. He has to date been smart enough to stay away from cameras
That's smart for him, sucks for us 😕 😆
@@TheBehaviorPanel There are some jailhouse phone call recordings that have come out, but no video interviews that I’m aware of. He is definitely an interesting case study.
@thebehaviorpanel Maybe the 911 call when he found his son and wife? When I first heard it I thought about Marks damsel in distress voice “Help me Help” 😅 but it’s probably too short for a whole video analysis.
@@TheBehaviorPanel I want him to talk to anyone, badly. The case is so wild, if you wrote it, you’d be laughed at.
I've never seen Bundy as charming. He comes off to me as any other slimy, lying, fake "politician" persona. Even his intelligence - it's on a scale of peers like Gein lol.
You wouldn’t ever see it unless he was planing on killing you…
@@norsechick Absolutely! He is a smarmy creep!
You’re saying this given the context
Thank you! He wasn't handsome (looks like a beady-eyed weasle to me) or particularly intelligent. At least my understanding was, he was a mediocre student. He was just a con artist and bullshitter - a sociopath for sure - but I just can't see these characteristics that the media kept blathering about! 🙄
Its easy to judge someone after knowing about them. You would have a clue let's say you are out from a bar Friday night??? Does it ring any bells?
I reckon he said he can’t talk about it because he KNOWS he’ll smile, he knows it invokes excitement that he cannot hide,
Is that correct basically??
I had to watch this one in segments - he was so evil he still makes me ill. I was in a bereavement group with a lady who lost her daughter to this monster. You know it’s bad when you think at least my daughter was an accident and no one meant her harm vs the vicious acts perpetrated on her daughter
Oh my gosh. Sorry to hear that.
That’s terrible, I’m so sorry for you loss. I also can’t imagine living with the wondering but losing a child full stop is an unimaginable level of pain. Academically, I find him riveting. In reality, he horrifies me because I am 100% convinced that he was an irredeemable, sadistic animal and I just wish he’d been put down earlier. Much earlier.
Wow 😳🥺
I was disappointed by the panel's expectations of Dr. Dobson--a Christian psychologist, not a criminal behavioralist. I remember this interview in real time--although I listened on the radio. I remember the build up for it as Dr. Dobson stating that he didn't know if he was genuine or not, but that they had decided to give him a chance to speak about the dangers of violent pornography. He never professed to know if Ted Bundy had changed or not. Mark seems under the mistaken impression that Dr. Dobson was a politician. During this time in history I doubt I'd ever heard of the study of behavior. I find the panel to be more judgmental of a large portion of the world's population with this one. Dr. Dobson was never the type of interviewer that the panel seemed to have expected. But people who knew the show would have been able to take it FWIW. But back then, more people thought for themselves and we were kind of opposed to group think. Ted Bundy was a monster and I hear Dr. Dobson say so myself. I was glad he did the interview and was glad to have heard it. I don't fault them for running it. Ted Bundy approached him to interview him. It looks like Dr. Dobson was used, but I never heard him justify a single word of Bundy's, either before or after this interview.
Agreed on this one. I was disappointed at the seemingly biased "agenda" the commenters made about Dobson. I am not a religious right wing nut but seemed like anything Dobson did or said was criticized as opposed to the panel's usual describing their observations of the main subject's behavior.
👏 yes
I'm glad Greg emphasized Bundy's apparent amusement while discussing his own bad actions. This seems a reliable cue you may be dealing with someone dangerous.
I noticed a few times he struggled to hide his sickening delight and the often smirk of glee could clearly be seen , yet his words told a different story ,
Ted Bundy just proved why he’s the most “famous” psychopath. That smile he was trying to hide when asked about the little 12-year-old girl just sent shockwaves into my spine. Geez, this person is a lot of work. That’s why I am interested of psychology - how the brain works is just fascinating.
Yup that’s the perfect glimpse of the mask finally being revealed
I would worry about anyone watching “violent” porn.
6:31 “thank god they found the cure for him & they cured him the next day” ~OMG Im in hysterics 😂
Good one 🙌🏼
he isn’t protecting his “Dear” ones. He is protecting his narcissistic view of how he wants to be perceived.
Spot on
"It takes two people to lie. One person to lie and the other person to accept the lie." That's pretty brilliant Mark!
I remember the panel saying, “A psychopath isn’t a wolf in sheep’s clothing. He’s a wolf in YOUR clothing.” Ted Bundy is mirroring Dr. Dobson and the Doc was so obsessed with his own agenda, Bundy reeled him right in. One person controlled every second of that interview, and it wasn’t Dobson.
well that sounds wise and all but it isn't quite right. if I tell you something that isn't true and you don't believe me, I still lied to you.
@@ElanMorin unsuccessfully.
@@wendyw7304I've always respected Dobson, he's a decent and insightful man, but he's way out of his depth here. You nailed it.
@@adriel7229 he wanted Ted Bundy to be saved.
I was born in Georgia and was about 11 years old when Bundy escaped and was making his way to Florida. I remember my dad staying home from work and driving us kids to school with a shotgun in the front seat. Animal is right, gentlemen. He was rabid and instilled fear in thousands.
It must have been awful for you. I live in England and my young cousin lived in Leeds in Yorkshire when the Yorkshire Ripper was on the loose. He instilled fear in thousands here too.
@@katherinejay3219 absolutely he did , another immense maniac 😢
I personally find Ted Bundy one of the scariest serial killers. The reason is that he comes across as so charming and fallible. When he used to use his bad arm routine to get a girl to help him put items in his car, I could have easily been one of those helpful girls. I have watched this interview a couple of times now, it was the night before his scheduled execution. He is very mesmerizing, I feel he draws you in, I can see him doing this to gain control over his victims, this I feel is the psychopath in him. Very scary.
I completely agree,
He suckered the young unsuspecting women right into his trap, this is utterly scary, because as the guys say , people always tend to judge others from what they themselves are like, unfortunately not everyone are good people, case in point ,
But this post is a must watch for women of all ages, it's absolutely shocking & horrific but it opens the eyes and alerts all the right instincts that many many young & older women become complacent about,
In my younger days , US young lady's wouldn't ever leave each other alone to get home from a night out, we just never done that, even back in the eighty's we never went anywhere alone, it was always as a group, even in our home town , it's a sad fact but true , this 21st century isn't anywhere near as safe as it used to be, I'm trying my hardest to remind my mother, sister & young nieces of this blatant fact daily,
Ted Bundy definitely did his homework regarding Dr. Dobson. He knows Dobsons passion was raising good children and creating healthy families. He played it well.
Maybe it is just because I have read about Ted Bundy, have a friend who was a member of the sorority that he ravaged in Florida, have watched shows, but I can't see the charmer or the good-looking guy people say he was. He just gives me the creeps - the voice, the looks, everything.
I *can not* wait!! This is going to be my happy place in 24 hours ❤
Same lol. I got Joe Navarros book "the godfather of body language" going to start reading that tonight.
Sadly, Mark Bowden is a bit naive in this clip. Pornography addiction is real. It is an actual addiction, and this is not some sort of political propaganda. Pornography is incredibly damaging to relationships, and individuals, and society as a whole. That is not a POLITICAL presumption, but what is actually been demonstrated repeatedly. I have worked with pornography addicts, and while I am not going to say every person who watches porn will become a serial killer, as that is not true, but it is equally not true to ignore the harm that pornography causes. I know too well the role pornography has played in multiple individuals who did chase that elusive high from fantasy to acting their fantasies out in reality. That is a very common pathway, and the pattern of escalation is real.
This is so true. 💯 %
Rapists and murderers use pornography to fuel their appetite along with alcohol usually.
Totally agree. And it in no way negates Bundy’s responsibility for the atrocities he committed. He was guilty guilty guilty!!!
Citation please? Never heard that before. Are there academic studies on pornography addiction? There is sex addiction. Is that what you are talking about? Would love to know, thanks.
It wasn’t porn he was watching it was snuff porn films
Really enjoyed this. Love how Greg says, ‘Bundy was cured.’ 😁. He certainly was.
As a Christian, I am appalled at Dr. Dobson’s acceptance of Bundy’s “easy believing” towards salvation without true repentance. Bundy’s repeating empty words of a prayer, without experiencing true repentance before God, is a mockery. He did not die a Christian. In this interview, Bundy showed no remorse for what he did and skirted around taking real responsibility for what he did. In Galatians 6:7, it says, “Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.” God sees the true intent of our hearts no matter what our lips may flippantly repeat to appease or manipulate people.
There is more to it than what this interview or the Panel revealed. Dr. Dobson admitted to not being able to say assuredly that Bundy had been saved, and he admitted later that he had been duped by Bundy. He knows now that psychopaths are good liars.
We do not know. Its not for us to decide because it’s between him and God?
@@mandychadwick6823 “The way is narrow, and few there are that find it “.
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@@mandychadwick6823 True. I am thankful that I don't have that responsibility!
The vibe I got from his refusal to talk about murdering was that it was too enjoyable for him and he knows he cannot share that with society if he want to have a shot at continuing his life.
I also particularly „love“ his little dig at the families of his victims, because if they can’t forgive him that’s a failing on their part… apparently.
Yes, I saw a flicker
I agree. If he let the mask slip in talking about the 12 year old, we would be sure to see the monster.
Yes to both parts of your comment.
agreed.
Or was it that giving it air time would interfere with the "good guy" image he was trying to portray for the moment?
This was a fascinating and spot on analysis. In the fall of 1974 I was going to be a freshman student at the U of Washington in Seattle. That summer was when Bundy first began his murderous rampage, and some of the killings took place in the neighborhood of the UW campus. My parents were freaking out, no doubt because they were worried that I - a shy, sheltered, naive girl from Seattle’s north end - would present a perfect temptation for a psychopath like Bundy. At the time, I thought they were being overly protective, and yet … It still makes me shudder all these years later.
I think he's using the interviewer to mirror his "story" back to him. He's grasping at straws to leave a "message" with his legacy. There's something of a seduction in his relating style. There was NOTHING NORMAL about the life he lived. For him to claim that is ludicrous. He can't name a single emotion. Where was the shame, horror or grief after his first murder? Then, he had to hide who he was from everyone after that. That's not normal, or "good".
I agree wholly agree with Greg regarding when Bundy starts to react to being questioned about Killing that 12 yr old girl. You can almost see the excitement begin to run through his mind, and Bundy KNOWS he cannot truly hide all of his " Tells".
That is scary, sickening, and I could see the true lack of humanity in his heart.
Is it just me, or did he actually start to roll his eyes back like a shark when that little girl came up???
This not only sheds a light on just how disgusting Ted Bundy was, but also how disgusting people can be to use a psychopath for their own agenda. If that's the extreme you need to take, there is a good chance what you are pushing is crazy.
i agree.
They say Ted was a real nice guy. Except for the killings.
@@alswedgin9274 their analysis is based of off studies of all kinds of cultures. From America to even tribes with no contact with the rest of the world. We have been communicating for much longer than we have spoken languages, and we still show these communications subconsciously. Yes they can be biased when it comes to assumptions about things, but they do a great job of focusing on the actual behaviours themselves. When it comes to analysing other languages, yes they wouldnt be able to if they didn't know the language. They have stated before that people who study and practice behavioural analysis speak multiple languages for this reason.
The part where he is asked about what he felt after murdering that 12-year-old girl, I think the reason why he wouldn't talk about it is that it gave him so much joy and pleasure that he knows it would be impossible for him to hide it. Rapture would have been all over his body and face. That's my take on that.
I thought the same thing.
Similar to why Nikolas Cruz at his current sentencing trial has been wearing a face mask pulled high over his nose while nobody around him is wearing any mask at all. His attorneys don't want his smiles and other telling facial expressions to give away his lack of remorse, sympathy, guilt and shame.
Exactly. Agreed 100%. Really horrifying stuff.
That's horrifying & heartbreaking.
That poor, poor, precious, innocent baby girl. 💔
(And all of the poor, poor, precious, innocent victims of this demon. 💔)
It's heartbreaking & very difficult to _even think about_ the terror, the helplessness, the pain, the revulsion, the confusion, & the cold, lonely, hideous ending that precious, beautiful, innocent, helpless little Kimberly Leach met--at the hands of a demon in human form.
I pray, fervently that Kimberly--
*_(& EVERY SINGLE ONE_*_ of the victims of this monster, & of _*_ALL_*_ monsters, & of _*_ALL_*_ terrifying & painful experiences & deaths,_ past, present, & future--& may there be *_ABSOLUTELY NO MORE_* future horrors, nor future deaths at the hands of *_ANY_* kinds of monsters, of *_ANY_* kind, *_EVER AGAIN...)_*
--was able to _absolutely & completely_ dissociate from what she had to endure, & that she lost consciousness very, very quickly, & very, very fully & completely, & that her experiences & death were as _free of pain & fear as _*_remotely possible._*
May she rest in peace, freedom, & Joy for Eternity.
My heart is broken & aching thinking of what her poor parents went through, (...& her siblings?...) & her family, & her friends, & even her community, as well. 💔
May her poor, poor shattered parents, family, friends, & beloveds find whatever comfort & healing may be possible, & strength, support, Light, Hope, & whatever peace may be achievable in such vicious, horrific circumstances.
God be with them & hold them tight until they can embrace their sweet, beautiful, cherished daughter, their precious little girl, friend, & beloved Kimberly again. ♥️
That sigh, and under the breath "oh yeah"--- he was getting off
Revisiting this one having just watched an incredible interview with Kathy Kleiner Rubin, a woman who survived being attacked by Bundy.
He's far from charming. He was a despicable brut. He never "charmed" people into "helping" him, he conned them.
Bleurk 😢
Now that Chris Watts mistress
Nicole Kessinger , police interviews have been released,can you analyze her body language ? Does she have guilty knowledge of the murders? Was she there?
Did Bundy go to the same acting school as amber heard 🤔 😳 🤣🤣
While I have great respect for Dr James Dobson, watching this again decades later, it is obvious that Ted Bundy was a master manipulator.
Dr. Dobson was not fooled. He sat and let Ted spin his yarn and then asked him about murdering children. He knew Ted was full of it. You can’t manipulate the Holy Spirit. What you see as weakness is the complete opposite. Jesus wins against any and all evil
Pornography has definitely left America in shambles, and it continues to get worse and worse. How can you all not see that.
My heart goes out to the young women and girls who were his victims.Their final moments must have been pure terror.Ted was a manipulative, cruel and disgusting person.
It really doesn't bare thinking about , I only hope many many of the ,30 women & young young girls who suffered an unimaginable death at his vile horrific hands ( the 30 he admitted to ! I without doubt know there's many many more, he was an unimaginable MONSTER ! ) my only prayer 🙏 is they were totally unaware and their deaths were instant, with zero suffering,
The nightmares these poor poor women & young girls family's must suffer must be horrendous, it would definitely drive me insane , 😢
The grossest thing about Bundy was what he wanted done with his remains. He wanted to be cremated and his ashes spread on Taylor Mountain, where he "...had the best times of [his] life."
Taylor Mountain was his favorite dumpsite in Washington, where like 5 of his victims were buried.
He was put to death by people who tried to minimize his pain, fear and humiliation. He put people to death in a way that increased their pain, fear and humiliation as much as possible. He enjoyed it. Always remember that.
For a psychologist to say Bundy shouldn’t have been in jail because he had bipolar personality disorder is like saying a rabid animal shouldn’t be caged because it’s not their fault they have rabies.
"It is not mercy to keep mad dogs in kennels " - Elizabeth I
“Murders that I was involved in..” “women I have harmed…” Excuse me?? I think you mean brutally killed. Just say it.
Pornography is a fantasy world that can destroy real, productive, intimate relationships It is very isolating..I do believe it shaped his perception of women, his hatred .And I believe our children need to be protected from this, as this addiction causes problems with real intimacy in relationships.
Absolutely agree! It ruins and tarnishes marital relationships, or ANY male/female sexual relationship for that matter, because it definitely portrays a fantasy rather than reality. When either the woman or the man sees the images on the screen, which 99% of the time reflect females and males, especially females, who have altered their own sexual body parts to an unrealistic extreme, this makes the one viewing feel totally inferior and “not good enough” or “not as hot or sexy” as the low life “actresses” or “actors” playing their parts on the screen. You walk away feeling empty and numb after you are exposed to it repeatedly over time. LOSING PROPOSITION NO DOUBT.
@@Sealust50 I sure agree.It's escaping to a dark world, not living a real life with real people and working on relationships that matter.
Absolutely. I commented that I wish mark had not dismissed it so much. Yes Bundy used it as a scapegoat but that doesn’t mean that pornography isn’t a problem.
@@rachaelmccarl I don't think he was using it as a scapegoat. I think it fueled alot of the horrible thoughts he was having and then acted on.
I lived across he street from Bundy's first victim near the U WA in Seattle. We lived in fear..great fear of walking to the campus. There were escorts formed to walk with us. Bundy joined the escort service. I am 68 and still constantly check my surroundings all the time. Lost faith in safety purely due to this monster.
I am so very sorry. That vile thing hurt so very many💔.
I wish you hope healing and comfort and I am grateful you’re in this scary world. 🌱
3-6 out of 25 will have APSP. The PNW, San Francisco and other large cities are full of psychopaths and sociopaths, only 15-% will be active overt cold blooded criminals. 30-40% of murders in The USA go unsolved except in Illinois 60% of murders go unsolved.
😳 I hate that anyone had to go through this and I'm sorry you did too
I was twelve years old and was at a Boeing picinic at Lake Sammamish the day one of Ted Bundy victims was kidnapped and murdered. For some reason we produce a lot of psychopaths here in the PNW. We currently have another man accussed of a mass murder in Moscow Idaho, Bryan Kohberger who has a very eerie resemblance to Bundy. Bundy was a lawyer by trade and Kohberger was getting a doctorate in criminal forensics. Kohberger has not gone to trial yet but he gives me the same creeped out feeling that Bundy always gave me.
Is he attractive in an¿
No.
So interesting, I don't find him in any way charming or erudite, he seems so squirmy and fake - and I really couldn't stand seeing him almost savoring skirting the edge of talking about what he actually did, the way it seemed to almost put him in an ecstasy. I'm not a death penalty fan but this is a good use of it. What a piece of garbage he is and how outrageous for him to say "he's horrified" the next day - why not turn yourself in then so you don't do it again?
I understand narcissism, but I'll never understand how people like him are made. Like a radicalized cancer cell in a body.
You guys are great, as usual. This is a perfect example of why we need you to all be on the screen. Even though the topic is so, so heavy, your comic relief is absolutely superb. I laughed out loud more than once. ("Oh, the humanity!" Priceless!!) Please keep this format. You all have such charisma as a group.
Dobson spent a good deal of time condemning pornography. It was a major part of his career. He might have been using Bundy to emphasise his beliefs about pornography.
Precisely.
Dr Dobson, was manipulated, just like everyone else, who listened to this psychopath.
Greg is the man! "..& they cured him the next day!" Gold!
Regardless of what really made him into a monster, porn is evil
Apparently, some people don't share your (our) opinion. It, I assume, is considered entertainment, but it is not harmless.
It is evil. It changes your brain and gets you addicted. That's got Satan's plan written ALL over it!
I think when asked about murdering the child (about 2 hours in), he said he couldn't talk about it, because a) it would have revealed his unnatural enjoyment arising from recalling the event and b) he actually didn't want to share anything about it because it was his private little memory, for him only and by sharing it, it somehow either diminishes the "special'ness" of it for him or somehow taints it, if he shares it.
Spot on 👍😁
Ted Bundy horrifies me. Any time I see a video or documentary my hair stands on end. Even after his execution, he still horrifies me.
Scott (or the new editor) nailed it with the placing the panel along the bottom of the screen while showing the clip one of the guys is talking about.. I loved when you started adding those edits in, but when it was only the clip and the panelist talking, we missed the other three.. not sure why it matters so much, but it does.. I guess it’s just as simple as wanting to see the others concur or laugh etc., but showing everyone during those moments is perfect. I know it’s subtle, but I really appreciate it!
Why in the hell does Dobson ask about his " feelings "????? He HAS NO FEELINGS!
I feel that Dr. Dobson is just allowing Bundy to speak he doesn't need to say anything yet but I bet he does later in private. Pornography has lead many down the evil path not all but many. Dobson see's that Bundy is guilty for what he did which he needs to pay for but Dobson does give Bundy the ability to repent prior to the end of his life the next morning.He does believe in forgiveness, if there is a true repentance but that can only be determined by God. Dr. Dobson is a wise smart man allowing Bundy to decide where he is going in the afterlife.
Dobson is a psychopath
Ted looked as though he would rip the interviewer apart if given the chance. Can you even imagine being 12 years old, alone with Ted, his eyes lock onto you? He is the things nightmares are made of.
I remember watching parts of the Bundy interview many years ago and feeling disturbed in my spirit over some of the things that were said. Your evaluation today was extremely helpful for me. Your comments along with now 30 years of experience in my own life, help me understand how much of a role Dr Dobson played in that interview. In other words, he was complicit. I consider myself a conservative Christian but in no way do I support what happened in this interview. At least 30 young women and girls were murdered by this man. I come away from the interview realizing that little or no remorse was shown for the gravity of the crimes committed and the devastation to the families. Thank you so much for your insights. They were extremely helpful.
Since the interview was done in 1989, I worked for more than 30 years in an environment with a narcissistic psychopath as a boss. I’ve learned so much about how destructive these types of people are. He isn’t a murderer but he damaged many many lives. The skills that you offer and insights certainly help me going forward.
Re Bundy’s facility with psychological terminology: Didn’t he study psychology at around the time he was volunteering at the mental health helpline with writer Ann Rule? In addition, he must have been interviewed by psychologists of varying skill levels hundreds of times during his various arrests, incarcerations, and the FBI “Mindihunter” team analysis. He’s had plenty of opportunities to learn how to make himself sound like he has psychological insight. In addition, it is amusing to hear him adopt the careful word choices (i.e., “sexuality” replaces “desire to rape and murder”) and soothing cadences of a preacher. He is mirroring the style of his interrogator. I’m guessing this thoughtful, measured manner was not present in police interviews, and we know from his few surviving victims that his demeanor and even his appearance was utterly, horribly different during his crimes.
Yes. Have you read The Stranger Beside Me, Ann Rule's book about Bundy?
@@carolineben-ari2798 I have, but many, many years ago. I should revisit it after watching this video!
I think he didn't want to talk about the 12 year old little girl he killed, especially towards the end of the interview/"at that time", because bringing up and reminding people he killed a little girl/a child undermines all the hard work he put in up until that point. Just my assessment.
Yes, I like that Scott clarified what "taking the Lord's name in vain" actually means. He's using it for vain/self-serving purposes. Like the pastor in a poor neighborhood who wears a Rolex, drives a Lexus, wears Armani suits, and always has a building fund, but no buildings ever gets built. The same type of individual who'd tell you that saying the Lord's name is "taking the Lord's name in vain", so you'd never suspect that he actually is "taking the Lord's name in vain" himself, because if you don't know what "it" actually means you can't identify "it". Another fun fact about psychopaths is that 1 of the top 5 careers psychopaths choose is the clergy. Ultimate authority, and their word is the word of god. They make up a small percentage, but something to be aware of.
What are the other four career choices!
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In no particular order and a few more, police officer, journalists, media persons, CEO, lawyer, chef, civil servant. All these careers are thought to have "bad-apples", be "sharks", put a "spin" on stories, or give access to people in need. They only make up a small percentage of these careers. We do see systematic problems steming from corruption in all of these careers thought.
@@susanschreiber8752 security guards apparently is one.
Ted looks like a SNAKE!! Thank you for teaching us how to READ people!
This is my favorite episode. I was living in the Seattle area during his reign of terror, and was frightened. But, until you guys showed me emphatically what a truly manipulative monster he was, I am certain as a single young girl going to bars, I never would have recognized the evil in him. I think that’s why for years I was obsessed with him, wondering how he was able to convince so many young girls to fall under his spell. Thank you all for all you do. You have made a difference in my life, I feel I can trust myself more now than ever. A little late in life, but I made it! You guys are the best!
Omg!! How scary!
He's not charming... he's obnoxious and sleezy, arrogant. Maybe back in the 70s women were used to that type of man and put up with it.... not now.
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I’m so glad the panel isn’t afraid to speak their mind! Especially Scott!!!!!!
Bundy thinks he’s so clever and special but all his interviews are so boring and full of crap. He says a lot of words but says nothing interesting.
Probably also not a coincidence that Mr Burns from the Simpsons looks like Ted bundy.
I think I'd have rather heard Dobson say, "Jesus MIGHT love you, but everyone else thinks you're a demonic a**hole," and then watched to see what his serpent tongue did on that one.
That was so funny! Although I couldn't agree more.
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I watched horror movies as a kid and never have I felt the need to murder a bunch of people 🤷🏻♀️
Not a fan of horror movies, but I do love Natural Born killers. I have yet to feel the urge to go on a cross state killing spree. Go figure? I've watched that movie probably a dozen times. Maybe the 13th time will be the charm?
I don’t think he was feeling bad at all. I believe he was trying to hide his arousal at the thought of his crimes.
Definitely, I thought the same
The tongue flicking--he's a snake!
His mother had the same mannerism. He probably got it from her.
I’ve noticed alot of narcs flick their tongue makes me feel a bit sick
Bundy was hoping for a stay of execution, so he’s basically playing for his life here. He didn’t want to die. He had every intention of being freed, either legally or by escaping. He actually had a huge fan base, was married in jail, and somehow managed to father a child in jail. This guy did not play by the rules, but in the end the rules finally caught up with him. I don’t believe in the death penalty, but I can’t help but be glad that he no longer walks the planet. I do believe he’d somehow manage to kill again. It was a game and an obsession.
@@pauldalnoky6055 I'm curious, what made you a fan?
@@pauldalnoky6055 this is fascinating… why were you a fan? Are you still a fan? And were you fan coz you thought him being able to kill and get away is what made him “de man” or were you a fan coz you thought he was innocent?
Pure evil! The two segments where he had to try and describe what he was feeling when he committed the murders…chilling! The look in his eyes and that smile he could barely contain….I should have watched this during the day. On a lighter note. You gentlemen are absolutely theeee best! Very knowledgeable and hilarious!!! The mute button shenanigans are my favorite!😂😂😂
I have a whole lot of respect for you guys in general, but I think in this particular case that your dislike for Dr. Dobson is getting in the way of accurately analyzing the interview. It's especially noticeable at the end when at least two of you were really incensed that Dr. Dobson implied he was friends with Ted Bundy... except he didn't imply that at all. He said, "our mutual friend, John Tanner." "Mutual friend" is often used synonymously with "mutual acquaintance" in many circles. It just means there's a person in common that they both communicate with.
Anyway, I did find your analysis of Ted Bundy to be enlightening, as usual. And I loved the mute mishap. :D
Exactly! Thank you!
1:55:23 Demon.
Bundy was trying to make himself relevant and useful to have his life spared. He thought if he made people think he could help with crime prevention by allowing himself to be analyzed, he wouldn’t be fried in the chair. Bundy couldn’t fathom the concept that he was actually going to lose in the end. In his mind he was always going to get away with everything and live.
Just out of curiosity… has anyone else noticed that all of the panel have their backs to the corner of the room?
oh yes..whats that all about..good eyes.
The saddest part was when he suggested he was just a normal guy, who happens to have s SMALL problem. As if raping and killing women is just some small, insignificant issue.
Minimizing is key to a narcissist
Bundy got a Psychology degree in 1972. maybe that is why he knew the lingo of the time.
That’s what I was thinking.
You got to love it when Greg compared Casey Anthony to Bundy. Unbelievable and on the mark!
I also thought he was reliving things throughout his entire interview, Because when he chose to be his own lawyer
and he was cross-examining the police officer and asking him questions that were so bad and damaging his own defense, He was reveling in the moment of his kills and getting off on it.
I completely agree, 👍
That business when he was closing his eyes & licking his lips constantly sent cold cold shivers down my spine,
Your right to , the comparison with Casey is spot on, I'm not familiar with the other ,
But I absolutely thought the very same thing , he was reliving the moments , utterly shocking and chilling to watch ,
He scares the living crap outta me still ,
But every woman should listen to their gut instinct, it will never let them down, & they shouldn't ever disregard the red flags that give their guts a sickening jolt, always be ready ,
I misunderstood , I thought you were referring to Casey as in John Wayne Casey, another horrific human , well monster, who's definitely not a human,
Just watching the panels opinions of the said Casey you are referring to say this moment , 😮
@@bessqueen-zn3kt Exactly, I read the book by Ann Rule, 'The Stranger Beside Me' He worked with her at a suicide hotline, But after I read that book, I changed the whole way how I looked at life and how I lived it. I'm not kidding either. It probably saved my life.
Is that cross examination with him being his own layer on UA-cam?
@@csc8697 I think it may be, But I also watched a few docs on Netflix and Hulu, and Oxygen..
FASCINATING! Such an interesting dynamic to look at between the two; horrific team work at a fear campaign. Imagine being ok with teaming up with the likes of Bundy. Loved Chase's sum-up at the end. Thank you!
Coming from a household that almost exclusively listened to Focus on the Family while I was growing up, I can tell you it worked too. When my dad discovered this interview, he talked about almost nothing else for like a month and how evil pornography is and how anyone can be pulled into this evil addiction and „who knows what you’re capable of once the evil porn has a hold on you“. He bought it hook, line and sinker.
I don't know much about Dobson, only that he isn't the kind of person I'd ever get along with or want to be around. Still, if I had to choose between being in a locked room with either him or Bundy, I'd take Dobson over that sadistic necrophilic rapist-murderer anytime, any day.
I really wish that one of you guys on the panel would have spoken a little about how sexually violent pornography and the prevalence of it DOES have a detrimental affect on society even though it’s NO excuse for Bundy’s behaviour!
Right, porn, even 'pinups' DO have a detrimental affect on society. I think some on the panel are naive. Maybe they do not have sisters.
@Lara Cross Hi, my comment was about “sexually violent pornography”. I’m not sure what you are getting at but my comment was directed at the guys on the panel because I was curious about their thoughts on the topic. Since I know they’ve probably done a lot of research into it, definitely more than me. My comment wasn’t directed at every nuff nuff who is going to read into a picture I took two seconds to select because I have a right to some privacy.
@Elizabeth Nicholas That's not what these videos are about. “sexually violent pornography” is a topic in itself separate from analyzing a person's body language.
@@nadine_ghc3465 yes I see where you are coming from and you’re right, I see that now.
@@nadine_ghc3465 except that this analysis is NOT strictly kept to his body language only. Elizabeth is reading between the lines and asking questions accordingly, and accurately.
CONTEXT: This was his last interview before Bundy's execution the next day. He tried to bargain his story for a stay of execution but was rejected. Dobson was a preacher on a crusade to end pornography and wanted to interview the most famous murderer and have him say that porno was why he was so rotten. Bundy lept at the chance for one last opportunity to convince folks that he was just a regular guy turned into a monster by forces outside his control. That one bone-chilling moment at 47:00 where he is reliving what he did (yes Greg NAILED IT) makes me very happy that he is now 6-feet under. I think that he was only sorry he could not do it all again.
He was feeding Dobson exactly what he wanted to hear. I'm sure there was some truth to it but he layed it on so thick. As usual he knew his audience and knew what he was trying to get from him.
OMG Scott being muted and realizing it 😂😂😂