Fantastic idea man, I also thought about that, I unfortunately don’t have a Soldano, but I can imagine the two amps sounding remarkable together even though they are amazing on their own already.
FINALLY somebody that goes into this rabbit hole properly, really hyped for this series, much respect!👏👏👏 i would love to hear a 5150 with a rectifier i heard they sound good together also would be cool to hear the 2 amps in mono, so for example you could have 2 performances played with 2 different combination of amps in a single mix
I think the 5150 and rectifier might be the most popular combo, 5150 has that super direct upper midrange, rectifier has the lows, and both have a shitload of gain pardon my French
No one man should command this much gain. Goddamn just can't beat a Marshall for definition, love the blend of these they complement eachother perfectly!
Hi Rabea, some troubleshooting tips for the ground loop(s): First of all, what’s the exact signal path? Is it guitar > pedalboard > split out to both amps? Anything in the fx loops of each amp? I’m assuming the pedalboard can lift the ground on one of the outputs going to the front ends of the amps. The first thing i’d try is run both heads through real cabs and eliminate the load boxes and see if you get ground loop hum like this. Using the Lehle or any other iso box/hum destroyer device in line on either side, you can ground lift either of the lines going into the front end of each amp to see if this removes any hum at this stage if there is any hum. If there’s no hum when using real cabs, introduce a loadbox to one amp and see if this adds any ground loop. I’d be surprised if this did given that you’re using balanced lines from loadbox to interface, unless one of the loadboxes has a ground lift switch that’s pressed down when it doesn’t need to be, which might cause the hum. If adding the first loadbox doesn’t add hum, introduce the next loadbox and see if that adds hum. If that doesn’t, it’s probably happening at the front end stage. Or if anything is going into either fx loop, you might have an issue there that needs a ground lift. Another test would be to have both amps with loadboxes, but with nothing plugged into the front ends of either amp, and with both amps set to high gain so you just hear amp hiss. If there’s no hum like that, it’s definitely a front end issue that just needs one side to be ground lifted. I wonder also if there’s a power source issue, but if all the gear is powered by the same outlet then probably not. Also a few ideas for the next video of this series. Try running two tube screamers or other combinations of dirt pedals in parallel (one to each amp) so each amp has a slightly different signal path. This can get closer to a more double tracked feel. Also, i’m hearing slight latency on the JVM side so the overall effect is that the 5150 side arrives sooner (i don’t mean the short milisecond ambience added to the tone, just the fact that the 5150 sounds faster).
Sounds massive. I've always a fan of a dual amp rig. One with a more vintage British tone for the chewy upper mids and chimey highs, and the other being a modern American amp for the beefy lows and lower mid girth. I also agree the unboosted tone is better.
That sound when you first blended the two together and when you put the reverb and delay in - that's the "BEA" sound to me! Made me properly love high gain and the way you use it in Toska. It's a benchmark tone that I always chase.
My suggestion is to do something Hetfield style, scooped 80s/90s style tone blended with a nice compressed Diezel giving some defined mids and some chewy saturated low-end. Seems to be a similar thing to blend two different styles. My favorite non-metal tone is Billie Joe Armstrong's who does a similar thing. Modded 59 Plexi that's closer to maybe a lower-gain classic JCM800 and set pretty clean and straight up, and then another 59 Plexi that's got a more metal-y gain structure with more gain for a big scooped saturated low end. So you get the cleaner super punchy midrange response and cut of the first amp, and all the big sustain and palm muting saturation and sizzle from the second amp, all through V30s.
I'm totally convinced that you could make a First Act starter pack sound kick ass LOL. But I'm digging that sound you get when you Put just the JVM and 5150 together.
🧔 I'm a drummer who loves brutal guitar tones. The blending of the Marshall jvm and the Peavy 5150 sounds amazing together. I would have to say separately I love the Marshall jvm on a crunch with the tube screamer. That sounds amazingly brutal in my opinion. Love you and and the new series. 🌻
The JVM has always been my favorite amp since I first saw it and eventually played it after a few years of watching the videos. While it’s great to have the luxury of both amps, one could get away with tones ranging from worse to even better by using a 10 band EQ pedal and a compressor. Maybe even use some of your favorite OD pedals and you’re very good to go.
One thing I would suggest Rabea, use a looper to be able to compare the same phrase you play, on the different amp settings and combinations of amps. A little easier for us to transfer to our own rigs that way. Pete Thorn does that, it really makes the subtleties more apparent. On the other hand, don’t stop your live playing! A big highlight of your show, fascinating that you shred like you do with mostly 3 fingers, but it makes your style more organic, accessible, your high sped stuff is just amazing!
Sounded soooooo damn sick when u kicked on the fatbee. It made the two amps respond kinda differently and made them sound even more stereo and wider. Super sick!
I have 0 musical training. Cannot even read sheet music. But watching your videos is starting to give me words to describe the sounds I hear and I really get a lot out of them!
Great video series idea, Bea. I've definitely followed your lead on stereo tones, and have for a few years been finding cool blends with my own VX Kraken and other amps. Here are a few different pairings I've really gotten into and have kind of become my default tones for demoing with my band. 1. Kraken Gain 2 and a Verellen Meatsmoke. 2. Kraken Gain 1 and a VHT/Fryette Pittbull 3. Obviously Kraken Gain 1 and Gain 2. You and Martin really nailed how those tones should work together. Looking forward to what you discover in your tone tweak searches.
Great video! As for the phase issues you mentioned in the beginning of the video, maybe this is of interest: the JVM always flips phase when entering another mode. So when going from green mode to orange mode you also flip the phase. As far as I understand, it comes from the JVM's inner working. Basically every time you go one mode up, there is one more valve engaged. Source is a German site that mods the JVMs and stated as a side-note, that when using the JVM is a stereo setup, only use the same modes on only pair it with itself so to say.
Dude. Your demos are absolute 🔥 Rabea. Unbelievable content brother. I follow so many youtubers, but you have a groove in your playing that really exposes an amps guts. Cheers from the USA 🍻
Hi Bea, i have a little trick when comes to your buzz/ground hum issues. Try European (continental) amp power cables with a uk adapters, 2 EU pin to 3 UK pin. I was strugglin with this issue for ages everywhere in UK. And then, by total accident i discovered this trick. I had this annoying ground loop buzz/hum comming out of my studio monitors connected to my PC. I swapped my monitor's power cabels to EU with UK adapters and eureka, complete silence. It works with guitar amps as well. Also a cheap Behringer Hum Destroyer is very usefull in various occasions. Take care and keep up a good work buddy!!!
I've been blending 2 amps for a little while now. The 2 I am using at the moment are the 20w Marshall Jubilee (Lead channel) through a Greenback and a Friedman JJ Jr (JBE channel) through a V30. The Jubilee provides the ballsy mid crunch as you'd expect from a Marshall and the JJ is a thick high gain with plenty of top end. This set-up is just made for Them Bones and We Die Young type riffs... More content like this Bea please 👍👍👍
I do the same exact thing and have exact philosophy with my Dual Rectifier Roadster and EVH 5153. I put EL34s in my Dual Rec, the Roadster are littler darker, so the tube change helped with that and the bass became less boomy. The 5153 is a mark 1 or first edition if you will, just the standard 100 watt loaded with 6L6s. These two heads played together boosted with Fulltone OCD is sheer brutality at its finest. Don't get me wrong, you get away with either one by itself just fine, more than fine actually, but the combination is just incredible.
when dealing with ground hum issues, different devices ground differently. the best advise I can give is to change where you have the load boxes plugged in. For example if they are plugged into the same power strip, move one directly to the wall outlet. another option is to see if one of the boxes features a ground lift.
I know its not the same as having the tube amps, but I'm grateful for amp sims where I can semi-try this out. If I tried to blend my amps at home, I'd probably burn my house down! Thanks Rabea, this was very inspiring!!
I like the sound of this combination of these amps. The difficulty is to finde the right mix of definition, brutality and special "dirt". I often mixing clean tones with distorted tones to have the definition in the sound, especially for riffs...
Love the sound of the fat bee, so gnarly. I'm a big fan of a Silicon treble booster in front of high gain amps, it kind of reminds me of that. Oh yeah and those amps sound great together!
I run my JVM 215 with a modded '68 Fender Bassman, connected from the pre-amp out on the JVM through the effects loop return added to the Bassman. The Marshall pre-amp sounds really nice through the Fender power amp.
I´m rather the tubescreamer guy! I love it, when the TS9 tightens up the sound! The Marshall and the 5150 are a wall of sound when blended together! Great! Nice series btw! Love yer playin´, Bea!
This is the kind of stuff studio-guys experiment a lot with. The key to getting a huge guitar-tone on a record is pairing two sounds that go well together. The same way that dual-tracking makes the sound big, cause you're creating two separate takes on right and left side, combining two sounds that are different but work well together makes it even bigger. I know some people who are new to this worry that it would be "too different" when you're dual-tracking two different sounds on each side instead of using the same sound for each, but it's the difference between them that result in width and size. You can also definitely run into cases where two sounds just doesn't want to work together and you end up making it smaller, but the Marshall & 5150-combo is a tried and tested method for great sound since they work well together (even when played at the same time, as you've demonstrated here. That's not always the case either). Combining amps like this and finding combinations that really work well is something studio-guys nerd out about to get the biggest tone they can. It's why in my home studio I have a JVM410, 6505 and a Dual Rectifier for example. All those three can be mixed & matched and they work well together. I'd love to hear you experiment more with all the amps in your studio for this!
I remember your "Revisiting Old Friends" video where you blended this pair. Love at first listen. The chunk, sustain and definition is all there. Currently looking into getting a Peavey 6505 Mini and a Marshall Dsl20 just so I can somewhat try this combo. Thanks for this video, the tones were awesome as always!
I've got a DSL100HR and an Invective 120 running stereo, using a simple a/b/y splitter before the inputs. There's a Boss 7-band eq and a boss PS6 before the splitter, and then each amp has it's own pedals in their respective effects loops. Nothing fancy, just reverb and chorus. There's also a JHS Angry Charlie before the Marshall input. It's great fun to tweak it all, and the effect in the room is unlike any tone I've ever heard.
Love this dude. I blend any jvm 410h and a Mesa boogie through a 4x12 marshall cab with a stereo mono switch on the back. And slaving them and pre amps through power amps
I agree, without the tubescreamer. The tubescreamer cuts the bass on the 5150, and blows out the string definition of the JVM, it totally counteracts the best parts of both.
A magical pairing, and makes me regret selling my JVM 410 lol. I have my 5150 still but I just never thought to run these two amps in stereo. It just has everything you want in a modern high gain tone. Good low end response, lots of mids, lots of presence and bite without any harshness, and you get all that string separation & articulation for chord work. Very much that wall of sound kinda high gain tone.
Its like you read my mind. Id forgotten about the jvm until your last video with it. I've been trying to set a live rig goal for when the band I'm currently putting together gets going. & I'd literally decided that I was going to go with a jvm 410 & a EVH 5150iii 100 watt.
Hey Bea! Great idea for the video format. I’d love to see you blend a more muddy/wide kind of amp like an Orange (OR range or Rockerverb) and a more defined amp like the JVM or another one in the range. I always found Orange amps hard to handle for the more modern kind of tones. Thanks!
@@-Kal- tons in the doom scene. Not sure if they're articulate enough for more technical stuff BUT I'm happy to pay attention to see if anybody else weighs in.
Excellent vid. They mixed wonderful together. The tube screamer takes away clarity and dynamics. I preferred the Marshall if the amps weren't mixed. A Fryette and a Bogner would be lovely. Especially a Sig X or Deliverance, but the Pitbull would be awesome too.
I think you needed more presence on the 5150. That’s why there was hardly note definition. Additionally, adding the TS9 to the 5150 would prolly have tightened it up a bit.
Great idea Rabea, let’s here a Soldano & Plexi mix…. I reckon they’ll sound awesome. Plexi with Greenbacks Soldano with V30’s Do it you know it makes sense.
Try getting a hum eliminating multi jack for your wall outlet. Then make sure everything you are playing through is going to that. Something in your chain is creating multiple paths to ground, thus creating a ground loop hum. That’s my guess. Often home electrical systems will share the neutral and ground connection at the panel because it’s usually not a problem for things that run on DC. But with all that gain in the system you could just be amplifying tons of ground hum. Load boxes tend to ring out audibly like a speaker a little when you crank the amp too, and I have seen issues where it creates a squeely feedback loop from the pickups too. 🤷🏻. Sounds immense though. Sick vid.
Man this sounds great. To be honest, I wish the amps weren’t panned. While it makes for a great listening experience, I’d love to hear these two stellar amps stacked in mono, to really get the full effect of how the compliment (or detract from) each other. Other than that, I absolutely love this new series!!
@@xsonicassassinx a simple phase inverter or sample delay will mitigate that. Blended amps are commonplace in records, these days, so I love this concept, but would love to hear the two amps actually stacked, as opposed to separate.
I also use the Lehle P-Split to eliminate ground hum and phase issues. What you have to consider though is channel-switching and effects loop use. This can (and probably will) also affect phase. Serial and parallel loops have different affects on phasing. When you use different load boxes, with different IRs you have to consider that this greatly affects phase. This is because it simulates the microphone with its angle to the cab (-> phase) and the distance from microphone and cab (->phase) As the UA Ox uses special stuff, this could be anything. Normally IR have 200ms or 500ms of room.
Sounds awesome, try the JVM and Soldano together. I do that at home, sounds pure BEEEF :D
It should sound similar to this, as the 5150 and the Soldano themselves aren't that far apart in sound and architecture. Or so they say.
Lucky neighbours you have 😂
@@JaimeNoro Actually, as far as I know, the Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier is the one that copied the SLO preamp exactly, bit by bit.
@@aapddd Shame I don't live next door, i'd be poking my head out the window "OI BEA, TURN IT UP"
Fantastic idea man, I also thought about that, I unfortunately don’t have a Soldano, but I can imagine the two amps sounding remarkable together even though they are amazing on their own already.
FINALLY somebody that goes into this rabbit hole properly, really hyped for this series, much respect!👏👏👏
i would love to hear a 5150 with a rectifier i heard they sound good together
also would be cool to hear the 2 amps in mono, so for example you could have 2 performances played with 2 different combination of amps in a single mix
I think the 5150 and rectifier might be the most popular combo, 5150 has that super direct upper midrange, rectifier has the lows, and both have a shitload of gain pardon my French
No one man should command this much gain. Goddamn just can't beat a Marshall for definition, love the blend of these they complement eachother perfectly!
Hi Rabea, some troubleshooting tips for the ground loop(s):
First of all, what’s the exact signal path? Is it guitar > pedalboard > split out to both amps? Anything in the fx loops of each amp? I’m assuming the pedalboard can lift the ground on one of the outputs going to the front ends of the amps.
The first thing i’d try is run both heads through real cabs and eliminate the load boxes and see if you get ground loop hum like this. Using the Lehle or any other iso box/hum destroyer device in line on either side, you can ground lift either of the lines going into the front end of each amp to see if this removes any hum at this stage if there is any hum.
If there’s no hum when using real cabs, introduce a loadbox to one amp and see if this adds any ground loop. I’d be surprised if this did given that you’re using balanced lines from loadbox to interface, unless one of the loadboxes has a ground lift switch that’s pressed down when it doesn’t need to be, which might cause the hum.
If adding the first loadbox doesn’t add hum, introduce the next loadbox and see if that adds hum. If that doesn’t, it’s probably happening at the front end stage. Or if anything is going into either fx loop, you might have an issue there that needs a ground lift.
Another test would be to have both amps with loadboxes, but with nothing plugged into the front ends of either amp, and with both amps set to high gain so you just hear amp hiss. If there’s no hum like that, it’s definitely a front end issue that just needs one side to be ground lifted.
I wonder also if there’s a power source issue, but if all the gear is powered by the same outlet then probably not.
Also a few ideas for the next video of this series. Try running two tube screamers or other combinations of dirt pedals in parallel (one to each amp) so each amp has a slightly different signal path. This can get closer to a more double tracked feel.
Also, i’m hearing slight latency on the JVM side so the overall effect is that the 5150 side arrives sooner (i don’t mean the short milisecond ambience added to the tone, just the fact that the 5150 sounds faster).
Sounds massive. I've always a fan of a dual amp rig. One with a more vintage British tone for the chewy upper mids and chimey highs, and the other being a modern American amp for the beefy lows and lower mid girth. I also agree the unboosted tone is better.
That sound when you first blended the two together and when you put the reverb and delay in - that's the "BEA" sound to me!
Made me properly love high gain and the way you use it in Toska. It's a benchmark tone that I always chase.
My suggestion is to do something Hetfield style, scooped 80s/90s style tone blended with a nice compressed Diezel giving some defined mids and some chewy saturated low-end. Seems to be a similar thing to blend two different styles. My favorite non-metal tone is Billie Joe Armstrong's who does a similar thing. Modded 59 Plexi that's closer to maybe a lower-gain classic JCM800 and set pretty clean and straight up, and then another 59 Plexi that's got a more metal-y gain structure with more gain for a big scooped saturated low end. So you get the cleaner super punchy midrange response and cut of the first amp, and all the big sustain and palm muting saturation and sizzle from the second amp, all through V30s.
They sound fantastic together
Please do more of this! Enjoyed it very much
Beaaautiful tones of the JVM 410 + TS. Beautiful singing leads. Gonna get me this head this year!!!!
I just love watching u noodle around! Very inspiring mate, thanks!
I'm totally convinced that you could make a First Act starter pack sound kick ass LOL. But I'm digging that sound you get when you Put just the JVM and 5150 together.
🧔 I'm a drummer who loves brutal guitar tones. The blending of the Marshall jvm and the Peavy 5150 sounds amazing together. I would have to say separately I love the Marshall jvm on a crunch with the tube screamer. That sounds amazingly brutal in my opinion. Love you and and the new series. 🌻
The JVM has always been my favorite amp since I first saw it and eventually played it after a few years of watching the videos. While it’s great to have the luxury of both amps, one could get away with tones ranging from worse to even better by using a 10 band EQ pedal and a compressor. Maybe even use some of your favorite OD pedals and you’re very good to go.
Man I LOVE this idea! Keep em coming!
Yes! he's my guitar hero I love anything he does
I also find the sound better without the Tube Screamer. Great Video Idea!!
Just started my dual amp journey… fun to watch, and happy to that Rabea took the time to make this!
This was awesome Rabea!
Great video. As always.
And great idea. I love blends amps.
Looking forward to hear the other episodes of the serie.
For me the lead without the tube screamer was just perfect to cut through without being too fizzy or muddy
Loved it !
One thing I would suggest Rabea, use a looper to be able to compare
the same phrase you play, on the different amp settings and combinations of amps. A little easier for us to transfer to our own rigs that way. Pete Thorn does that, it really makes the subtleties more apparent.
On the other hand, don’t stop your live playing! A big highlight of your show, fascinating that you shred like you do with mostly 3 fingers, but it makes your style more organic, accessible, your high sped stuff is just amazing!
I’d love to see an Orange/Friedman combo ! 😍
Orange / Friedman would be sick
Ultimate British high gain pair
Holy smokes Rabea! This video was a huge level up for me. Thank you so much for the stuff you post.
Sounded soooooo damn sick when u kicked on the fatbee. It made the two amps respond kinda differently and made them sound even more stereo and wider. Super sick!
I know you must be happy to be back with the JVM, you’ve talked about it a lot.👍🏻
Would love to hear YOU demo some Diezel amps.
That Fat Bee is the greatest fuzz I've ever heard. Mental! Cool vid, Bea.
Try blending the high harmonics of a Soldano with the mid content of maybe a Friedman.
Or with the low end of a Rectifier or his Revv
What a tone with both of them together!
I ate this episode for Breakfast.
Literally.
Thank you for the very very good morning.
This is a great idea. See if the kraken and soldano play well together.
I have 0 musical training. Cannot even read sheet music. But watching your videos is starting to give me words to describe the sounds I hear and I really get a lot out of them!
That tone is unbelievable. Waiting for more!
Great idea I would love to see the Mezzabarba with the super kraken. Keep it up 👍
Nice to hear that lick again. SICK
(To me) the notes sound clearer, larger, more organic and less noisy without the T. screamer. Worked better with the baritone.
Because the tube screamer has a natural bass cut and mid boost frequency curve. It would sound better with a bass player
I'd love to hear a dimed sheriff mixed with something heavy, looking for that Adam Jones super bass x VH4 vibe.
I blend a Sheriff 22 w/ a BH Terror at home, it sounds awesome. I've always watned to hear the bigger Sheriff with a full sized Orange.
+1
Or just go VH4 and Marshall, see what the fuzz is about. Would surely make for an interesting video.
Wow, the bari tone is spectacular
Great video series idea, Bea.
I've definitely followed your lead on stereo tones, and have for a few years been finding cool blends with my own VX Kraken and other amps. Here are a few different pairings I've really gotten into and have kind of become my default tones for demoing with my band.
1. Kraken Gain 2 and a Verellen Meatsmoke.
2. Kraken Gain 1 and a VHT/Fryette Pittbull
3. Obviously Kraken Gain 1 and Gain 2. You and Martin really nailed how those tones should work together.
Looking forward to what you discover in your tone tweak searches.
Great video! As for the phase issues you mentioned in the beginning of the video, maybe this is of interest: the JVM always flips phase when entering another mode. So when going from green mode to orange mode you also flip the phase. As far as I understand, it comes from the JVM's inner working. Basically every time you go one mode up, there is one more valve engaged. Source is a German site that mods the JVMs and stated as a side-note, that when using the JVM is a stereo setup, only use the same modes on only pair it with itself so to say.
The victory copper with the JVM? Gunned AC30 style tones with the high gain Marshall
Sounds absolutly awesome.
I am excited for this series.
Can't wait for more episodes, mate! When you got the Baritone out with a smile I couldn't help smiling myself! :-D
That full bore riff sounded killer at 17:00. Great video man!
Just love this combo sounds so good. Great vid.
Dude. Your demos are absolute 🔥 Rabea. Unbelievable content brother. I follow so many youtubers, but you have a groove in your playing that really exposes an amps guts. Cheers from the USA 🍻
Hi Bea, i have a little trick when comes to your buzz/ground hum issues. Try European (continental) amp power cables with a uk adapters, 2 EU pin to 3 UK pin. I was strugglin with this issue for ages everywhere in UK. And then, by total accident i discovered this trick. I had this annoying ground loop buzz/hum comming out of my studio monitors connected to my PC. I swapped my monitor's power cabels to EU with UK adapters and eureka, complete silence. It works with guitar amps as well.
Also a cheap Behringer Hum Destroyer is very usefull in various occasions.
Take care and keep up a good work buddy!!!
This is a magic pairing.
Fat Bee made it the lasagna of Guitar Tones.
I need to hear the Diezel VH4 third channel in a situation like this.
This is awesome, exactly what I’m doing right now. So keen on this series of blending tones!
Top notch content Rabea.
I've been blending 2 amps for a little while now. The 2 I am using at the moment are the 20w Marshall Jubilee (Lead channel) through a Greenback and a Friedman JJ Jr (JBE channel) through a V30.
The Jubilee provides the ballsy mid crunch as you'd expect from a Marshall and the JJ is a thick high gain with plenty of top end.
This set-up is just made for Them Bones and We Die Young type riffs...
More content like this Bea please 👍👍👍
I do the same exact thing and have exact philosophy with my Dual Rectifier Roadster and EVH 5153. I put EL34s in my Dual Rec, the Roadster are littler darker, so the tube change helped with that and the bass became less boomy. The 5153 is a mark 1 or first edition if you will, just the standard 100 watt loaded with 6L6s. These two heads played together boosted with Fulltone OCD is sheer brutality at its finest. Don't get me wrong, you get away with either one by itself just fine, more than fine actually, but the combination is just incredible.
This is a sick and informative segment.
when dealing with ground hum issues, different devices ground differently. the best advise I can give is to change where you have the load boxes plugged in. For example if they are plugged into the same power strip, move one directly to the wall outlet. another option is to see if one of the boxes features a ground lift.
I know its not the same as having the tube amps, but I'm grateful for amp sims where I can semi-try this out. If I tried to blend my amps at home, I'd probably burn my house down! Thanks Rabea, this was very inspiring!!
Haha! Thanks for the shout out, Bea! I hope you guys are all ok?
Lovely to hear that combination again- it really does sound amazing!
Would be unreal if you managed to get that Friedman BE100 deluxe back and pair it with the Soldano... tonal heaven!!!
I like the sound of this combination of these amps. The difficulty is to finde the right mix of definition, brutality and special "dirt". I often mixing clean tones with distorted tones to have the definition in the sound, especially for riffs...
Great tone and playing dude!
That is some huge tone right there.
spotted that sweet killswitch engage riff right there at 9:02 :D awesome video series :)
Great video idea, mate! Loved it! Cheers!
Great idea! I have been looking for this topic. thx!
jvm does the lead thing so well
It all sounds amazing!
Love the sound of the fat bee, so gnarly. I'm a big fan of a Silicon treble booster in front of high gain amps, it kind of reminds me of that.
Oh yeah and those amps sound great together!
Loved it. Great combination. I did feel like the tube screamer was more of a bass cut than a mid push, so I agree-it sounds better without it.
Sounds massive! Those amps work great together.
What do I think at this point? Speechless.
I run my JVM 215 with a modded '68 Fender Bassman, connected from the pre-amp out on the JVM through the effects loop return added to the Bassman. The Marshall pre-amp sounds really nice through the Fender power amp.
One of the best tones I've heard period❤️❤️❤️❤️
I´m rather the tubescreamer guy! I love it, when the TS9 tightens up the sound! The Marshall and the 5150 are a wall of sound when blended together! Great! Nice series btw! Love yer playin´, Bea!
This is the kind of stuff studio-guys experiment a lot with. The key to getting a huge guitar-tone on a record is pairing two sounds that go well together.
The same way that dual-tracking makes the sound big, cause you're creating two separate takes on right and left side, combining two sounds that are different but work well together makes it even bigger. I know some people who are new to this worry that it would be "too different" when you're dual-tracking two different sounds on each side instead of using the same sound for each, but it's the difference between them that result in width and size.
You can also definitely run into cases where two sounds just doesn't want to work together and you end up making it smaller, but the Marshall & 5150-combo is a tried and tested method for great sound since they work well together (even when played at the same time, as you've demonstrated here. That's not always the case either).
Combining amps like this and finding combinations that really work well is something studio-guys nerd out about to get the biggest tone they can. It's why in my home studio I have a JVM410, 6505 and a Dual Rectifier for example. All those three can be mixed & matched and they work well together. I'd love to hear you experiment more with all the amps in your studio for this!
The return of the best amp combo !!
Always awesome, thank you Rabea 👍
Would love to see you do one with one of those small battery powered amps!! Like the small small vox thingy!
Funny that you made this video since I revisited your old video of the JVM and the 5150 rig just yesterday!
Dude the baritone sounds colossal!
I remember your "Revisiting Old Friends" video where you blended this pair. Love at first listen. The chunk, sustain and definition is all there. Currently looking into getting a Peavey 6505 Mini and a Marshall Dsl20 just so I can somewhat try this combo. Thanks for this video, the tones were awesome as always!
Sick idea. I would love to hear a freidman be100 with a soldano
I've got a DSL100HR and an Invective 120 running stereo, using a simple a/b/y splitter before the inputs. There's a Boss 7-band eq and a boss PS6 before the splitter, and then each amp has it's own pedals in their respective effects loops. Nothing fancy, just reverb and chorus. There's also a JHS Angry Charlie before the Marshall input. It's great fun to tweak it all, and the effect in the room is unlike any tone I've ever heard.
Great idea Bea! I'm in!
Love this dude. I blend any jvm 410h and a Mesa boogie through a 4x12 marshall cab with a stereo mono switch on the back. And slaving them and pre amps through power amps
Beautiful clean playing man!
Finally I always wanted too see someone do this. I'd love to see a slo and a dual rec
Same preamp. Mesa ripped off Solodano
I agree, without the tubescreamer. The tubescreamer cuts the bass on the 5150, and blows out the string definition of the JVM, it totally counteracts the best parts of both.
A magical pairing, and makes me regret selling my JVM 410 lol. I have my 5150 still but I just never thought to run these two amps in stereo.
It just has everything you want in a modern high gain tone. Good low end response, lots of mids, lots of presence and bite without any harshness, and you get all that string separation & articulation for chord work. Very much that wall of sound kinda high gain tone.
Its like you read my mind. Id forgotten about the jvm until your last video with it. I've been trying to set a live rig goal for when the band I'm currently putting together gets going. & I'd literally decided that I was going to go with a jvm 410 & a EVH 5150iii 100 watt.
Hey Bea! Great idea for the video format. I’d love to see you blend a more muddy/wide kind of amp like an Orange (OR range or Rockerverb) and a more defined amp like the JVM or another one in the range. I always found Orange amps hard to handle for the more modern kind of tones. Thanks!
I think it sounds sick, with both amps together. that Fat B is sick man
Sick lead tone almost borders on too much but at the last sec doesn't go over the edge great new series dude good luck
What we really need are hi-gain heads with mean fuzz sounds asap
I would love to hear more nasty, splatty, filthy fuzz sounds in heavier genres tbh. If anyone can recommend a band/song I’d be happy.
@@-Kal- tons in the doom scene. Not sure if they're articulate enough for more technical stuff BUT I'm happy to pay attention to see if anybody else weighs in.
@@jimmymaria1964 I’ll check out some doom stuff then.
Excellent vid. They mixed wonderful together. The tube screamer takes away clarity and dynamics. I preferred the Marshall if the amps weren't mixed.
A Fryette and a Bogner would be lovely. Especially a Sig X or Deliverance, but the Pitbull would be awesome too.
Id love to hear the Kraken mixed with the Mezzabarba!
I think you needed more presence on the 5150. That’s why there was hardly note definition. Additionally, adding the TS9 to the 5150 would prolly have tightened it up a bit.
Great idea Rabea, let’s here a Soldano & Plexi mix…. I reckon they’ll sound awesome.
Plexi with Greenbacks
Soldano with V30’s
Do it you know it makes sense.
Love the high gain harmony
Try getting a hum eliminating multi jack for your wall outlet. Then make sure everything you are playing through is going to that. Something in your chain is creating multiple paths to ground, thus creating a ground loop hum. That’s my guess. Often home electrical systems will share the neutral and ground connection at the panel because it’s usually not a problem for things that run on DC. But with all that gain in the system you could just be amplifying tons of ground hum. Load boxes tend to ring out audibly like a speaker a little when you crank the amp too, and I have seen issues where it creates a squeely feedback loop from the pickups too. 🤷🏻.
Sounds immense though. Sick vid.
Man this sounds great.
To be honest, I wish the amps weren’t panned. While it makes for a great listening experience, I’d love to hear these two stellar amps stacked in mono, to really get the full effect of how the compliment (or detract from) each other.
Other than that, I absolutely love this new series!!
likely had to be panned to mitigate the phase issue
@@xsonicassassinx a simple phase inverter or sample delay will mitigate that. Blended amps are commonplace in records, these days, so I love this concept, but would love to hear the two amps actually stacked, as opposed to separate.
@@MrJabbawaky unfortunately not that simple. The harmonics are never quite in phase. The more gain, the more it’s a problem, seemingly.
Killer sound!! Love it
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And jvm might be a great combo.
Hi there Bea! It would be quite interesting to blend the OD1 of the JVM with a Peavey Invective MH on a defined gain setting!!
Oh I'm going to enjoy this series! Shame I won't have an empty house for the next one, was able to crank it up and it sounded monstrous.
I also use the Lehle P-Split to eliminate ground hum and phase issues.
What you have to consider though is channel-switching and effects loop use.
This can (and probably will) also affect phase.
Serial and parallel loops have different affects on phasing.
When you use different load boxes, with different IRs you have to consider that this greatly affects phase.
This is because it simulates the microphone with its angle to the cab (-> phase) and the distance from microphone and cab (->phase)
As the UA Ox uses special stuff, this could be anything.
Normally IR have 200ms or 500ms of room.
Excellent content.