That was my first thought when I saw the mill combo in action. Just imagine the pain when Hogaak starts spending so many resources to eat through the deck just to find there is one real Eldrazi in the mix.
When you go off in game 1, you take your Vengevine out of your graveyard but the 2nd time you cast Hogaak is the 3rd creature you have cast that turn: Bloodghast, Hogaak (the first time), and Hogaak (the second time). It doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things as you still have lethal, but just thought I would point it out regardless!
If you have multiple Hoogaks you can anounce the cast of a new one while using the one on the board to convoke. After you put the new one on thr stack you can sac the one already on the board with the altar. This was you don't need to tap as many zombies to combo of.
@@hitthere7722 you don't really know what your opponent have in hand, so if you want to preserve your relic you could do that. It's a choice really (even though applying pressure it's what i would've done too)
Or attack with the Matter Reshaper and force the block with the Vengevine, exiling the Bridges that way. Game 1 the play might actually be to Dismember your own creature to get rid of the Bridges that way
Yeah, I was pretty appalled at his decision, but when Carl said "I win" and he stared blankly, it was pretty clear he had no idea what he was doing in this matchup.
Btw. not sure you played the best version of either deck. The Eldrazi Winter PT was won by UR, which didn't need to play weak cards like Matter Reshaper, but I think in a vacuum it can be argued that a list with Chalice is better, because UR was mostly a mirror breaker, but I case of Hoogak I definitely remember Piotr Glogowski stating, that the Birdgeless list was actually the better one (not ironic). Before the bridge ban, people were just super foucsed of that card without even realising, that there might actually a better version of the deck without bridge.
Crazy just how good eldrazi winter is really. In game two so many turns drawing into basically nothing but still able to fight it out against busted combo.
I think my candidate for "strongest modern deck" would probably be Amulet Bloom, just because of the speed it has. I'd love to see it featured in another video!
it was fast but way more hatable, was an ok deck in a way weaker format and never reached the tier 0 status, hoogak instead had absurd win rates and meta shares, specially the first version with bridge
very nice, the time for paper magic twice a week on this channel finally has arrived. :-) also nice throwback to eldrazi winter :3 good idea for letting these 2 decks face each other
Imagine eldrazi with Urborg swapped out for Yavimaya and ancient stirrings added for more consistency. I would assume they would also play more warping wails for expressive iteration. Unfortunately nothing in modern horizons 1/2 was made for Eldrazi in the same way Hogaak/carion was for dredge, since after eye got banned the deck no longer sees play. I would have loved to see an eye of ugin equivalent which only makes eldrazi 1 mana cheaper, but MaRo's mind works in a mysterious way.
You could have won Game 2, you should have attacked first with the 2x Vengevine @22:40 to swing in for 8 damage, he is at 18, he should have went down to 10, but then instead you've milled yourself, and then next turn you've attacked for 6, he should been down to 4, so during the last turn, your 3x Bloodghast should have haste to end the game...
I don't know about everyone else but I'd really like to see more silly challenge deck videos where maybe you pull mechanics out of a hat to be mixed into a deck or even just deciding on silly gimmicks then building them. Food for thought Ig?
Rhystic studies’s new hogaak summer video brought me here! He gives you guys a nice little shoutout! I was stoked to see it because I sub to you both haha
So in game 2 you could've swung with vengevines before sacrificing them to altar to get extra damage as they have haste. Also later at about 28:00 you had 5 mana which is enough to cast faithless looting for flashback and discard the two vengevines in hand, then cast gravecrawler two times as it gets countered and then attack. With both theses actions you wouldve got him. Also the bloodghast could have attacked if u attacked with the vengevines earlier.
If ya take him to 10 life in game 2 and swing with both vengevine but leave a zombie to block, your blood ghost gain haste next turn and you’d win on return swing. Hogaak is the best deck I’ve ever seen personally.
Im still seeing the video but I think the vengevine was not supposed to enter on battlefield, right? It's was the 2nd Hogaak and 3rd creature casted and it shoudn't trigger the vengevine.
Game one there was an (small) error. Bloodghast, then Hoggak, then milling , then the recast of Hoggak (third creature) the Vengevine shouldn’t have returned.
Carl punts at the end of game 2 -- he should have full swung. Vengevine and Bloodghast all had haste, and he knew he was dead on board if he sat back... but he had 16 power swinging into 12 life with one of the blinkmoths tapped. Dan needs to block Vengevine and at least one other creature, otherwise he takes lethal. Those blocks kill the blinkmoth and the matter reshaper, which does let Dan try to flip the top of his deck... but he needs to hit a creature with CMC < 3, otherwise he loses. If he does hit the CMC 3, he wins, but at least it turns a guaranteed loss into a "you have to get a lucky flip or I win"
I think in game two it might have been better to play the inkmoth instead of the eye. Get an extra damage in on the next turn where you play the ratchet bomb, crack the bomb for 0 on the end step to blow up your chalice and attack with blinkmoth + matter reshaper without boosting the inkmoth. This would have left you in the same situation with your opponent at 5 and threatening lethal, but you would have relic up. Alternatively you could crack the ratchet bomb in your own turn after attacks to blow up a blinkmoth and get rid of the bridge in the graveyard. That way you wouldn't have lethal next turn, atleast not guaranteed, but it protects your attack from darkblast. That would be a spicy line but i think the first 1 is better.
Dude missed his vengevine trigger in game 1 ( cast ghast then cast g Hogaak1 ) 2nd creature cast therefore not triggering vengevine when the gaak 2 was cast
in the second game, cracking ratchet bomb before blockers would have been better as the matter reshaper had to be blocked, and killing altar before blockers would have exiled the bridge from below from the graveyard, and if the hogaak would have been sacrificed before blocks, then there also wouldn't be a zombie available for gravecrawler to be cast the following turn.
eye of ugin makes smasher cost 2 less, plus you can tap the ugin for black so eye and temple pay for smasher. what am i missing why did you tap all your lands to play smasher??
Definitely agree. At GP Melbourne, UW Eldrazi was unbeatable. Far better in the mirror, and lost barely anything compared to UR against the rest of the field.
Bro HOWWWWW does Etron ship that opening 7 in game three? Relic is like the best card you could possibly ask you could ask for + TKS is super castable off of another monkey or ANY land.
28:07 Can't he just attack with everything for lethal? That way the Reshaper and the Blinkmoth have to block the two Vengevines and die in the process. I believe only a Reality smasher off the Reshaper or the draw can lose you the game that way. What am I missing?
Hmm, I wonder if Alter of Dementia was the major issue? Hmmm, win con and sac outlet in one card that wasn't legal in modern until that set...hmmm. 🤔 Yeah, you could do the same thing with another sac outlet and another win con, but that would be two more sets cards usually. That's probably why Alter got banned, it was its own engine and win con. Honest question, what would the deck play like without Altar? What would be the alternative? Is Alter really the only thing that needed banned? Not that I am a fan of the Horizon's sets in that format specifically. The Modern Horizon's sets seemed way to focused on giving commander players some toys, but ended up either with a huge ban list or warping the format.
Call em Magic Horizons. :D Anyways, Altar is probably the best card in the deck, and an Altar ban would have been preferable to a bridge ban. The reason they avoided the Altar ban was because it was a fancy new toy they'd introduced to modern and they don't want to hurt the bottom line of their premium, 9 bucks a pack set. Also why Hogaak took so long to ban. Another thing about the deck is that it still likely would have been fine. Altar was an insane card, but often the decks could pull a t2 hogaak out with Stitchers' suppliers
As always, GY decks are typically unstoppable game 1 with an average to good draw. It's turn 2-3 they've always stumbled. One day they are going to make GY protection spells, enchantments or ways to dredge out artifact removal... and they'll then need to ban those cards.
Game 1 he tells you he only runs 1 swamp, the decklist confirms no other basics, he's missing land drops on 2 lands with a chalice of the void on 1, but for 2 turns in a row the play is cast a matter reshaper instead of ghost quartering his land? Feels a punt.
Old video but my thoughts: Game 2 should have been a complete blowout 2-0. Even if your plan isnt to hit him to death there is no reason at all not to hit for 8 with your vengevines before sacrificing them to the altar. After that you mill and play hogaak. With hogaak and 2 zombies on the field and 2 vines in the graveyard you have the win.
I think eldrazi deck is like...more fair xd To interact with Hogaak you need specific cards and if you don't have them - shame on you. Against the eldrazi you can at least try to defend yourself while don't having sideboard aimed at them. (even though they have potentially the best curveouts in the history of magic)
I think this will sound crazy but I don’t think Bridge is that good in the grand scheme of modern anymore, with pitch elementals hitting the bin all the time, and the Yawgmoth combo deck, The Asmo Food Deck too. I think creatures just hit the bin way way to often for Bridge to stay on the field for more then one turn. I could be very wrong but that’s just how I see it rn.
*in the graveyard. Which is complately fair. Bridge does exactly nothing as a real enchantment. However, Bridge still sees legacy play in a build of Hogaak there, where the evoke elementals can see play. I think you're mostly right, especially with Hogaak gone, but who exactly knows what would happen if Hogaak were to be reintroduced into modern now.
@@blueredlover1060 Yeah I meant in the bin lol when I made the comment, dunno why I said play. After thinking about it a little more though, it think the unban wouldn’t necessarily be all that crazy still however the thing that I would be interested to see is how it would play in the Food deck itself. I think a Food Shell Built around Bridge would be pretty strong if done right.
Why deploy first eye of ugin on game 2 before blinkmoth nexus, if there was no eldrazi to play? Also there was a line you did not see, ratchet bomb on 0 destroy own chalice and use relic to nuke graveyard. Also game 3 could have endless one for 0 to exile bridges.
Oko stomps both of these decks-especially with the printing of delighted halfling. I challenge anyone to defeat a T2 Oko that is uncounterable thanks to delighted halfling. Oh, you played hogaak t2? cool it’s now a base 3/3 without any abilities. Good luck! Oh you played big eldrazi? Cool, it’s now a base 3/3. Good luck!
i thoght if a cost has XX in it, 2 mana payed equals 1. if thats the case how did he challece on turn 1 for 1? he was 1 short right/ or did i miss read something. eldrazi temple does not help right?
If these two were in the same meta I feel like Eldrazi winter would run a single shuffle eldrazi.
Perhaps two or a second in the sideboard, to lower the danger of drawing it and beeing sad.
That was my first thought when I saw the mill combo in action. Just imagine the pain when Hogaak starts spending so many resources to eat through the deck just to find there is one real Eldrazi in the mix.
For sure
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In game 2 he could've used ratchet bomb to blow up his own chalice to push out relic so he could exile in response.
When you go off in game 1, you take your Vengevine out of your graveyard but the 2nd time you cast Hogaak is the 3rd creature you have cast that turn: Bloodghast, Hogaak (the first time), and Hogaak (the second time). It doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things as you still have lethal, but just thought I would point it out regardless!
If you have multiple Hoogaks you can anounce the cast of a new one while using the one on the board to convoke. After you put the new one on thr stack you can sac the one already on the board with the altar. This was you don't need to tap as many zombies to combo of.
He also kept creating 2 zombies even though he had 3 bridges in the end. He won either way.
In the last game, he could have played endless one on 0 to get rid of the two bridges
why would he do that if he had lethal
@@hitthere7722 you don't really know what your opponent have in hand, so if you want to preserve your relic you could do that. It's a choice really (even though applying pressure it's what i would've done too)
Or attack with the Matter Reshaper and force the block with the Vengevine, exiling the Bridges that way. Game 1 the play might actually be to Dismember your own creature to get rid of the Bridges that way
Why didnt you just blow up your own chalice in game 2 with ratchet bomb on 0 counters, just to play your relic?
That is the play for sure hogaak can't easily win through relic so that is the best card in that match up
6:00 Why would you fetch the one Swamp in your deck when facing Ghost Quarter and even telling your opponent? 😂
not holding up dismember game 1 was a huge mistake. Even if carl has a turn off his clock, he now has only 2 bridges in deck.
Yeah, I was pretty appalled at his decision, but when Carl said "I win" and he stared blankly, it was pretty clear he had no idea what he was doing in this matchup.
Btw. not sure you played the best version of either deck. The Eldrazi Winter PT was won by UR, which didn't need to play weak cards like Matter Reshaper, but I think in a vacuum it can be argued that a list with Chalice is better, because UR was mostly a mirror breaker, but I case of Hoogak I definitely remember Piotr Glogowski stating, that the Birdgeless list was actually the better one (not ironic). Before the bridge ban, people were just super foucsed of that card without even realising, that there might actually a better version of the deck without bridge.
UR was more explosive, but UW is my pick for best deck because the late game is unbeatable.
UW Eldrazi ended up being the most dominant by the end of the format. RG was second place, then Colorless in third. UR was just a worse version of UW.
How does the bridgeless version of the combo work?
Crazy just how good eldrazi winter is really. In game two so many turns drawing into basically nothing but still able to fight it out against busted combo.
I think my candidate for "strongest modern deck" would probably be Amulet Bloom, just because of the speed it has. I'd love to see it featured in another video!
it was fast but way more hatable, was an ok deck in a way weaker format and never reached the tier 0 status, hoogak instead had absurd win rates and meta shares, specially the first version with bridge
I'd love to see modern jund vs modern twin as they would be today. That would be great content!!!!
I think twin would dominate that match. They got so many tools in UR to play the fair midrange/control game now that the twin combo is almost overkill
At 15:48, you cannot respond to a land getting played. You could for example respond to a fetch getting cracked, however, that is not the case here.
very nice, the time for paper magic twice a week on this channel finally has arrived. :-)
also nice throwback to eldrazi winter :3
good idea for letting these 2 decks face each other
So funny how Carl reacted when he read the vengevines and that you only need to "cast" the creatures^^
I'd love to see modern iterations of these decks
Imagine eldrazi with Urborg swapped out for Yavimaya and ancient stirrings added for more consistency. I would assume they would also play more warping wails for expressive iteration. Unfortunately nothing in modern horizons 1/2 was made for Eldrazi in the same way Hogaak/carion was for dredge, since after eye got banned the deck no longer sees play. I would have loved to see an eye of ugin equivalent which only makes eldrazi 1 mana cheaper, but MaRo's mind works in a mysterious way.
They were modern decks, and banned, you can't really play either of these decks now in modern, Hogaak has 3 cards banned
You said it right, graveyard's hate sideboard are the best deck in modern! I love graveyard strategies, but there's so much hate cards!
In game 2, turn 2 was safe to play Blinkmoth nexus, could still eye of ugin on turn 3 in case you draw Reality smasher.
You could have won Game 2, you should have attacked first with the 2x Vengevine @22:40 to swing in for 8 damage, he is at 18, he should have went down to 10, but then instead you've milled yourself, and then next turn you've attacked for 6, he should been down to 4, so during the last turn, your 3x Bloodghast should have haste to end the game...
to be fair tho eldrazi winter player shouldve probably cracked his ratchet bomb on zero to get rid of his chalice and sit behind the relic of prog
I don't know about everyone else but I'd really like to see more silly challenge deck videos where maybe you pull mechanics out of a hat to be mixed into a deck or even just deciding on silly gimmicks then building them. Food for thought Ig?
1. I miss SSG.
2. I love Carl.
3. Every time I hear or see Hogaak, all I hear is fortunate son. Oh, oh the horror.
I would like to see players favorite archetype with or without banned cards. Great content so far keep it up!
Rhystic studies’s new hogaak summer video brought me here! He gives you guys a nice little shoutout! I was stoked to see it because I sub to you both haha
I would have blown up my Chalice in game 2 with that ratchet bomb, and played that relic.
So in game 2 you could've swung with vengevines before sacrificing them to altar to get extra damage as they have haste. Also later at about 28:00 you had 5 mana which is enough to cast faithless looting for flashback and discard the two vengevines in hand, then cast gravecrawler two times as it gets countered and then attack. With both theses actions you wouldve got him. Also the bloodghast could have attacked if u attacked with the vengevines earlier.
Faithless looting would still get countered by chalice.
36:16 can't believe that future sight 🤯 😮
Great video keep it up.
Maybe go with the crab-vine???
If ya take him to 10 life in game 2 and swing with both vengevine but leave a zombie to block, your blood ghost gain haste next turn and you’d win on return swing.
Hogaak is the best deck I’ve ever seen personally.
Was my thought also. That 2 Life point misplay cost Gaak the match.
I'd love to see modern versions of banned modern decks, I think I've seen you or someone else do it already but sounds fun
Im still seeing the video but I think the vengevine was not supposed to enter on battlefield, right?
It's was the 2nd Hogaak and 3rd creature casted and it shoudn't trigger the vengevine.
And 3 bridges on graveyard, it supposed to generate 3 zombies. A little bit messy, but still love your content.
Nice to see Dan back.
Game one there was an (small) error. Bloodghast, then Hoggak, then milling , then the recast of Hoggak (third creature) the Vengevine shouldn’t have returned.
and third bridge at some point in the middle of a combo
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Carl punts at the end of game 2 -- he should have full swung. Vengevine and Bloodghast all had haste, and he knew he was dead on board if he sat back... but he had 16 power swinging into 12 life with one of the blinkmoths tapped. Dan needs to block Vengevine and at least one other creature, otherwise he takes lethal. Those blocks kill the blinkmoth and the matter reshaper, which does let Dan try to flip the top of his deck... but he needs to hit a creature with CMC < 3, otherwise he loses. If he does hit the CMC 3, he wins, but at least it turns a guaranteed loss into a "you have to get a lucky flip or I win"
I think in game two it might have been better to play the inkmoth instead of the eye. Get an extra damage in on the next turn where you play the ratchet bomb, crack the bomb for 0 on the end step to blow up your chalice and attack with blinkmoth + matter reshaper without boosting the inkmoth. This would have left you in the same situation with your opponent at 5 and threatening lethal, but you would have relic up.
Alternatively you could crack the ratchet bomb in your own turn after attacks to blow up a blinkmoth and get rid of the bridge in the graveyard. That way you wouldn't have lethal next turn, atleast not guaranteed, but it protects your attack from darkblast. That would be a spicy line but i think the first 1 is better.
In the last game when playing the smasher he could have kept a land untapped since eye taps for mana and smasher only costs 3
He doesn't want to. He wanted Carl to think he was unable to exile the graveyard.
Dude missed his vengevine trigger in game 1 ( cast ghast then cast g
Hogaak1 ) 2nd creature cast therefore not triggering vengevine when the gaak 2 was cast
Hogak seems like a Yu-Gi-Oh deck in magic
Lots of misplays on the Hogaak deck in the second round
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in the second game, cracking ratchet bomb before blockers would have been better as the matter reshaper had to be blocked, and killing altar before blockers would have exiled the bridge from below from the graveyard, and if the hogaak would have been sacrificed before blocks, then there also wouldn't be a zombie available for gravecrawler to be cast the following turn.
Id love to see the summer of Necro (Necropotense from standard). This is where I first started playing 'type 2' and I LOVED this deck
That deck was so broken! We are actually inviting a special guest over soon to record some vintage magic, including necropotence games :)
@@CardmarketMagic I'm super excited for that!!!
eye of ugin makes smasher cost 2 less, plus you can tap the ugin for black so eye and temple pay for smasher. what am i missing why did you tap all your lands to play smasher??
I thought Blue White Eldrazi was the best version? I may be wrong. Just going off of memory from what people were playing at my shop at the time.
Definitely agree. At GP Melbourne, UW Eldrazi was unbeatable. Far better in the mirror, and lost barely anything compared to UR against the rest of the field.
Well ina tuned meta i guess eldrazi would be better because 4 leyline of the void even maybe 4 relic main board and chalice to shut down interaction
35:48 Don't you only need to tap 3 lands?
The way Hogaak wins seems very similar to Underworld Breach in commander
Bro HOWWWWW does Etron ship that opening 7 in game three? Relic is like the best card you could possibly ask you could ask for + TKS is super castable off of another monkey or ANY land.
I think the best deck probably be amulet Titan no Ban list
28:07
Can't he just attack with everything for lethal? That way the Reshaper and the Blinkmoth have to block the two Vengevines and die in the process. I believe only a Reality smasher off the Reshaper or the draw can lose you the game that way.
What am I missing?
Not only would the reshaper die, it would exile the bridge from belows
@@mc2wire I missed that the Bloodghasts don't have haste since opponent is at 12, my bad.
at 33:17 you cast a gravecrawler without a zombie in play... you need a zombie in play to cast gravecrawler
You only need a zombie in play to cast it from your graveyard, you can normally cast it from your hand without any restrictions :)
You should take a trip back in time to the good old days, when damage used the stack.
Man, the Spirit guide ban still saddens me
I think Eldrazi player didn't want to win play the bomb on zero, blow up chalice and relic on table takes care of the rest .
Next week humans or Hell's Kitchen maybe?
Hmm, I wonder if Alter of Dementia was the major issue? Hmmm, win con and sac outlet in one card that wasn't legal in modern until that set...hmmm. 🤔 Yeah, you could do the same thing with another sac outlet and another win con, but that would be two more sets cards usually. That's probably why Alter got banned, it was its own engine and win con. Honest question, what would the deck play like without Altar? What would be the alternative? Is Alter really the only thing that needed banned? Not that I am a fan of the Horizon's sets in that format specifically. The Modern Horizon's sets seemed way to focused on giving commander players some toys, but ended up either with a huge ban list or warping the format.
Call em Magic Horizons. :D Anyways, Altar is probably the best card in the deck, and an Altar ban would have been preferable to a bridge ban. The reason they avoided the Altar ban was because it was a fancy new toy they'd introduced to modern and they don't want to hurt the bottom line of their premium, 9 bucks a pack set. Also why Hogaak took so long to ban.
Another thing about the deck is that it still likely would have been fine. Altar was an insane card, but often the decks could pull a t2 hogaak out with Stitchers' suppliers
As always, GY decks are typically unstoppable game 1 with an average to good draw. It's turn 2-3 they've always stumbled. One day they are going to make GY protection spells, enchantments or ways to dredge out artifact removal... and they'll then need to ban those cards.
Game 1 he tells you he only runs 1 swamp, the decklist confirms no other basics, he's missing land drops on 2 lands with a chalice of the void on 1, but for 2 turns in a row the play is cast a matter reshaper instead of ghost quartering his land? Feels a punt.
You should play Jeskai Monkeblade!
Old video but my thoughts:
Game 2 should have been a complete blowout 2-0. Even if your plan isnt to hit him to death there is no reason at all not to hit for 8 with your vengevines before sacrificing them to the altar. After that you mill and play hogaak. With hogaak and 2 zombies on the field and 2 vines in the graveyard you have the win.
I would love to see you guys play a deck like blue red eminent domain
Game 2 Is the play not to crack ratchet bomb to break your own chalice and free your relic in hand?
Affinity before any bans vs and other standard deck.
being that hogaak can just dig for his cards where it seems eldrazi needs a good draw and hand to win
I think eldrazi deck is like...more fair xd
To interact with Hogaak you need specific cards and if you don't have them - shame on you. Against the eldrazi you can at least try to defend yourself while don't having sideboard aimed at them. (even though they have potentially the best curveouts in the history of magic)
Eldrazi is overpowered rather than broken. Hogaak is just broken.
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND. Why wasnt relic of progenitus played on game 2?
Chalice on 1
@@mule51 thank you! Sorry :s
You couldve blown up your own chalice with ratched bomb to play and use your relic to win game 2
Can we have Orzhov Griefblade, or at least some reanimator list and/or Orzhov Stoneblade?
How was he able to cast the two Endless One's for 3 each by only paying 1 colorless for each?? in game 3
the eye of ugin makes them 2 cheaper
I think this will sound crazy but I don’t think Bridge is that good in the grand scheme of modern anymore, with pitch elementals hitting the bin all the time, and the Yawgmoth combo deck, The Asmo Food Deck too. I think creatures just hit the bin way way to often for Bridge to stay on the field for more then one turn. I could be very wrong but that’s just how I see it rn.
*in the graveyard. Which is complately fair. Bridge does exactly nothing as a real enchantment. However, Bridge still sees legacy play in a build of Hogaak there, where the evoke elementals can see play. I think you're mostly right, especially with Hogaak gone, but who exactly knows what would happen if Hogaak were to be reintroduced into modern now.
@@blueredlover1060 Yeah I meant in the bin lol when I made the comment, dunno why I said play. After thinking about it a little more though, it think the unban wouldn’t necessarily be all that crazy still however the thing that I would be interested to see is how it would play in the Food deck itself. I think a Food Shell Built around Bridge would be pretty strong if done right.
chalice didn't die to ratchet bomb with also stuck the relic in his hand
Why deploy first eye of ugin on game 2 before blinkmoth nexus, if there was no eldrazi to play? Also there was a line you did not see, ratchet bomb on 0 destroy own chalice and use relic to nuke graveyard. Also game 3 could have endless one for 0 to exile bridges.
You could bow up your own chalice with ractchet bomb and then play and crack relic to wipe his gy
very interesting to know which one is the 2nd best deck after splinterTwin ;)
I've got bad news for you about the playability of splinter twin 😅
@@CardmarketMagic I know...... But it is always tier 1 in my heart
The utter disrespect of calling Matter Reshaper the worst card in the deck. Reshaper is a low key powerhouse.
that bald guy had no idea how to play eldrazy properly
Honest to god think Hogaak got better when Bridge got got
Dredge vs 8post essentially. While dredge has a better gm1, eldrazi has way better sideboard options
I keep wanting Carl to win these matches
I win sometimes 😅
Lmao I only knew Hogak from hearsay before, but I now get why it was so feared/hated
Hogaak is Hella scary. It took multiple bans to keep it down. It's like when you shoot a zombie in a movie and it keeps running at you. Terrifying
Kinda sad, that you never had Eye of Ugin, Mimic, Endless One Turn1 or similar or even better stuff
Affinity/8-rack!
Feeling like the Eldrazi Winter player doesn't really know what he's doing here.
Plz play some kind of storm deck
Oko stomps both of these decks-especially with the printing of delighted halfling.
I challenge anyone to defeat a T2 Oko that is uncounterable thanks to delighted halfling.
Oh, you played hogaak t2? cool it’s now a base 3/3 without any abilities. Good luck!
Oh you played big eldrazi? Cool, it’s now a base 3/3. Good luck!
36:09 paid 6 mana for a reality smasher.
In the first game in the first game he couldnt have brought back vengevine because that was the third creature spell he cast, i think he cheated
Haven’t watched yet but my guess is hogaak will mop the floor
Couldn't he dismember his own creatures to get rid of the bridge from belows?
Older standard. Astral slide?
I don't know if hogaak is the best but looks more fun than eldrazi!
Should have fetched for green to hardcast vengevine
I explicitly say in the video that I am annoyed that there is only one Overgrown Tomb in the deck, so no way to fetch for double green ;)
i thoght if a cost has XX in it, 2 mana payed equals 1. if thats the case how did he challece on turn 1 for 1? he was 1 short right/ or did i miss read something. eldrazi temple does not help right?
I feel like hogak wins as they were in their own meta, but in the meta where these two are legal eldrazi 100% wins
The dude cheated at 24:15 untaps his lands and retaps them
The best deck in Eldrazi Winter was UW Eldrazi, not the Colorless one. Even RG Eldrazi was better than Colorless.
Well, now we really know
Please Play kaladesh standard or modern with aetherworks marvel
We are looking into playing classic standard decks in the near future! And Marvel is a deck we are itching to play again 🙂
Obosh hammer 🔨