Winter War 1939-1940 - Finland's Desperate Defense Against the Red Army
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Our animated historical documentary series on modern warfare continues with a video on the Winter War, as the Soviet Red Army attempts to break through in Karelia and around Ladoga only to meet with the desperate Finnish defense.
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For those wondering why everything is called "something-järvi". Järvi is finnish for lake. And we have a lot of lakes
And for those wondering why they sound so weird is because every single one of the names was thoroughly butchered by the voice-over.
Does Maki mean hill? I live in northern Minnesota and am half Finnish myself, and my grandparents were Maki's and I was told one it meant hill. Just curious.
@@erikskelton6597 Yes, but it's Mäki
@@erikskelton6597 mäki = hill
Is there an Eitoinenjärvi?
You know you are fighting a war in Finland when your objectives are lakes instead of hills, towns and villages.
No. They fighting heawily for hills. Lakes are in this case areas names.
Interesting
They call that Minnesota too
Mökki, sauna and a lake. What else does one need?
@@Radbot776 Finland's not in Scandinavia it's Nordic but not Scandinavian
Soviet Union: Nooo, you can’t just flank us and cut us off while we make a frontal assault.
Finland: haha, ski board go woosh
Soviet Union: Haha another division from Ukraine goes uraaaaaa
MABUS SUBAM haha, Finnish artillery go boom!
@@mabussubam512 haha, motti goes ratatataa.
Hahaah suomi machinepistol goes ratatatatatatatatatatattata
@@mabussubam512 Yep until that Ukrainian division is commanded by a terrible Soviet general and loses its whole division to a few farmers on skis 😂
Finns make a bad attack plan: Troops call it "the idiot's nudge."
Soviets making a bad attack plan: Troops call it just another tuesday.
Soviets: "first time?"
@inc.opt.63 To an absurd cost to the poor Russians who were treated like street dogs in the army.
@@greyd.99xsome Embarrassing, when think that they started with Soviets on the same side.
Wednesday is kill your own men day
@@lordlucius1341 That's actually a propaganda myth. Soviet forces didn't kill their own men any more than other military forces did during this war, at least according to the statistics. The number of men executed was on par with other nations. The trope that the Soviets manned machine guns to cut down anyone fleeing is also not true.
They did have penalize battalions, that is true, but they weren't as many as you would think.
Most of the unnecessary deaths were caused by a bad doctrine, bad logistics and poor leadership how to carry out effective attacking plans. This responsibility was mostly caused by Stalin's purge of military competence and leadership IMO.
Especially the Soviet and German armies suffered greatly by the madness of dictators who refused to allow their armies to fall back, regroup and reorganize when needed, to lose the battle, but to try to win the war.
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Appreciated
@@KingsandGenerals what video editing software to you use?
@@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329 Blender
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Thank you! Great animation, indeed. A Company Commander, my father was fighting against Red Army in the Winter War and he also fought in the Continuation War.
My grandfather, Giorgi Katsitadze (I was named after him) was a member of the Soviet Army. Many Georgians were drafted for this war. Gladly, he survived and passed away in 2010. He was telling me the war stories. As a kid, I remember he mentioned that Fins were a fearsome fighters, especially at night with knifes. He was a "badass" man but was carrying the pieces of bullets in his body during his entire life. He was saying that this was a "gift" that not to forget what the war is about.
Interesting. I wonder if there are any books documenting the experiences from soviet soldiers during this war.
What did your grandad think of Stalin?
@@ottomartikainen1579 Has to be. I'm sure there is but I don't know how accurate it is due to Soviet propaganda.
@@aransin167 Even though he was a military man during that time, he was no fool. Frankly, he was telling me that the regime was terribly harsh and simply deadly under Stalin. Who can forget their relatives and childhood friends who were killed or exiled in Siberia simply for no reason. He was born in 1918, that year Georgia grabbed the opportunity and became independent again but unfortunately freedom was short-lived.
@Leopoldus Carniolus only for some people who really don't know real stories about him. I'm a Georgian, personally for me (and of course I'm not the only one) he was the embodiment of evil.
Talvela attacked and counter attacked an enemy superior in number, better equipped, with armoured and air support and vastly more modern and numerous artillery.
Not only did he succeed, he succeeded with a fraction of his enemies’ casualties. That is something special.
Paavo Talvela & Otto Skorzeny would have made quite a team
Talvela was a great general and his troops were excellent. that is one side of the coin. The other side of the coin is that the Soviets did just about everything possible wrong and in a terrible way. Much can be said about the Winter War, but I suggest that you read about it in depth and you will understand how the Finns, often quite easily, could hold out against such seemingly overwhelming odds.
@@thabomuso6254 Soviets favorite tactics was to throw soldiers at enemies, hoping that they've run out of resources to fight.
It is not anything special. Just a good use of the right moment. When you fight from the defensive position you always have upper hand. Soviets in that area were on the offensive and were too far from their initial positions and had no supplies, no defensive positions, therefore couldn't hold there for long.
Thabo Muso Oh yeah, you could write a book on all the reasons the Soviets sucked during the Winter war.
Hideous duel command structure where officers share duties with a jumped up politburo ideologue, the great purge, Brown and green uniforms in the snow, lack of skis or training, terrible logistical planning where whole army corps are supplied by a single road causing chronic food and ammunition shortages, very poor troop communication with other formations, poor comms to artillery and air support, complete lack of motivation for the soldiers to fight (vs Fins defending their homeland), nonexistent infantry/armour coordination, vast overconfidence combined with bad planning for the conditions.
Yeah, that’ll do it. And by ‘it’ I mean ‘get you put on the hot seat by Stalin as to why you were incapable of beating a country who’s population NOW is smaller than a modest sized city’.
You can't just reference something called 'The Sausage War' without going into detail. I had to google it :D
not the "sausage" i imagine ,right? damn 9gag ruining my common sense
American called it Hamburger, although 30 years later
The Sausage War was actually a battle where the attacking Russians managed to thrust deep into the Finnish flank. They were however starving and when they found a Finnish field kitchen they stopped to eat. That had the effect of partly spoiling their attack.
@@jounisuninen Then they got bayonet charged...
I search the "sausage" war.. It shows me a different type of "sausage" war!
I absolutely love studying this war. My admiration only grows more and more for the Finnish people, the more I learn.
This is the story of resistance against all odds against you. I am not Finnish but this inspires me.
Nice but, the Finnish People today wouldn't stand a chance against a Russian army or any army these days. Very politically Correct with no backbone & or Spine.
I see... one of the comments is written by russian spineless spy
@Águila701 Indeed, Afghanistan is called the graveyard of empires for good reason
@@DennisBerg101 That is a myth. Afghanistan was always conquered by other nations that include the Iranians, Greeks, Arabs, Turks, and some others. It was never a 'graveyard' of empires.
Everybody gangsta till the snow starts speaking finnish.
Everybody gangsta until white death makes everybody shit their pants in terror, but i guess it kept Russians warm for a second there
everybody gangsta till the trees start speaking vietnamese
Everyone's gangsta until the Soviets still annex 11% of your country.
@@tisFrancesfault yeah after that you gotta invade Soviet Union
Everybody gangsta till the Russians start freezing to death in the winter.
What seems to be missing from this narrative was the Soviets dependence on the fFinnish roads.
Lakes, bogs and dense forests bordering these roads , created narrow corridors and choke points that limited their advantage in armor and continually interrupted their supply lines. The Finns kept cutting up their long extended columns into small piece meals, stalling Soviet advancements over and over.
This allowed the Finns to easily concentrate and maximize the effectiveness of their limited artillery by focusing it along these limited avenues of advancement.
It's almost like attacking a forest with a shit ton of bogs and lakes is extremely hard to do.
What a resistance put up by the finish against an enemy much larger than them impressive and heroic
@Jose Raul Miguens Cruz compare the casualties on both sides and you'll see that it was a humiliating defeat for the soviets. In the end, all they did was lose thousands of men and important equipment for a bit of land that really wouldn't give them any advantage at all. If the soviets would have actually won, they would have annexed finland or made it a puppet state.
@Jose Raul Miguens Cruz
Oh dear, ye have some gaps in yer narrative there. I'll help:
"first the soviet union was on the winning side."
>Take a look at the casualties, losses and met goals. In that context, Soviet Union did really not win.
"Two, the armistice was asked by Mannerheim once the finnosh army was rendered incapable of sustaining more combat operations,"
>Mannerheim was a military leader, NOT a governmental power. He did not ask.
-Also, the Finnish Field Army was still in the field, not capitulated and had not surrendered.
"the mannerheil line was deep behind the soviet front lines."
>And? The VK line and VKT line were made just in time, as the massive Soviet Army was able to crack the vaunted Mannerheim line. (which was far less impressive than anyone thinks)
"It was Finland that waa forced to transfer more territory than have ever the USSR dreamed of,"
>Soviet goal was to conquer the entire Finland. So, no.
"and after the defeat the USSR didn't have to keep its initial proposal of exchanging territory with finland, so all those commodities producing chunks of soviet territory as the mines of Petchora wete kept under soviet control."
>All the territories would have been under Soviet yoke. And loss of Karelia brought massive famine, the main reason why Finland reached out to Third Reich.
"It is true, however than, Voroshilov made a disaster of his military operations but once Timoshenko assumed command he was unstoppable."
>He made poor plans because he was instructed to make such plans.
-Tymochenko simply threw massive amounts of manpower and fire upon Finns, how very ingenious..
"He jaggernauted the finnish army and in 1944 it took the USSR 10 days to cripple the finnish army."
>Now ye jumped into the largest battles of all Nordics?? Battles of Tali-Ihantala were actually the only Soviet strategic offensive which failed. Once again, the goal was to break the lines, conquer all of Finland. It failed and Finnish Field Army was still in the field, and making some counter-attacks as the armistice was signed.
"If I'm not wrong when the finns in 1944 they had less than 50 artillery pieces left. If I'm not wrong the Petrozavodsk strategic offensive of 1944 left the finnish arnynon the verge. Sad but true my friend."
>Well, ye were terribly wrong.
-It's OK to be misinformed, but quite another to have such hubris while being so wrong.
Cheers.
Russians; Never attack us in the winter
FInnish: hold my beer
Its hard to fight Russia, but it can be successfully done, all like to point out Napoleon and Hitler, but always forget the Imperial Germany victory over Russia 1917....
@@kirgan1000 you mean during the Communist revolution? When entire battalions deserted? And Russia was on the brink of Civil war?
@@dannyarcher438 To inflict enough losses on the enemy to erode the enemys will to fight so he surrender, is a common way to win. The same thing did happen to Imperial Germany 1918, but thanks to Germany surrended in "time" the state was sufficiently strong to win the German (limited) civil war.
@@dannyarcher438 A big instigator to the Russian revolution was disastrous defeats on the battlefield against Germany. The treaty of Brest-Litovsk, which ended the war on the Eastern Front, had a lot of humiliating concessions to Germany.
Well the Finnish didn't attack the USSR it was the other way around.
For those wondering what the Sausage War was, it was a Soviet attack that pushed past the first two lines of Finnish defenses. the Finns gave the area up and retreated, leaving a lot of equipment behind, including a full field kitchen that was in the middle of cooking a sausage soup when they had to abandon the equipment because of the oncoming soviets
At this stage the Soviet soldiers had been under supplied for a good week, surviving the harsh winter on meager rations and when the push sent a battalion of Red army soldiers through the field kitchen setup, the smell of the cooking soup became to irresistible and soldiers began ignoring Officers shouts and demands of them continuing the onslaught as the unpacked their messtins and began eating. this respite allowed the Finns to regather their local forces and eventually surrounded this Red Army battalion, leading to over 2000 captured Red Army soldiers and the local area being reclaimed by the Finns
Mad respect to the Finns for defending their land against impossible odds.
It wasn't a standard war between 2 states. It was a war for survival. Soviets would have sent half population to concentration camps.
@@Romkosss For real. Finland remained independent and free of the soviet rule. Can you imagine if they lost, became annexed, and had the same treatment as Ukraine?
.. Finland ALLIED WITH NAZI GERMANY! That's why they were threatened at all in 1939..! Not something anyone should be proud of.. I'm certainly not.
@@JoeyVol I don't think Finland was allied with Nazi Germany before or during the winter war. You're spreading misinformation
In the interim they tried to run to Britain and even presented them with the same terms of a defensive pact that Britain had offered prior to 1939. Too bad for them that these defensive pacts are useless once you're already at war... NAZI Germany could have never gave their sphere of influence to the USSR at all if they had signed any one of the multiple defense pacts offered to them by the Allied powers prior to 1939 because Germany's main goal was to expand it's territory without going to war with Britain.
Finland is Russia’s Russia.
A country you expect quick and easy victory over, only to get bogged down in the winter and destroyed.
And the video specifically mentioned that the Soviets were having trouble with the cold and frostbite lol
@@jason4275
They didn't lost! In the end after continuation war finland lost karelia, salla, petsamo and pay compensation. Cold war period finland had very open relationship with ussr and soviets were most important trade partner with finland.
@@jason4275
I don't think soviets care much about finland, they only want to make some parts of finland a bumber zone against rising nazi empire! After the war finland and ussr made yya treaty which state both nations could help each other if someone invaded them and it also boost the trade so relationship become a warm one. Finnish president kekkonen who had longest presidency after the war and who kept wires his hands almost whole cold war period also had very close relationship with soviet leaders so i don't think there was any cia conspiracy our part, though we had many politicians and other public figures who worked foreing intelligent but mostly stasi because they recruit specially younger people as we find out when stasi files became open! 70s many young activist admire soviet system, others just didn't want to make russian bear angry again but anyway finland just try to keep very warm relationship both sides best they could!
@@almightybunny3320 Incorrect.
The USSR indeed wanted to conquer ALL of Finland. The talks about a "little buffer zone against the Nazies" were total BS.
After the war Finland had to make a treaty with the soviets. Naturally we would have preferred not to.
@@almightybunny3320 Explain that to all the dead Russians that were killed by the fins and the fact that Finland is independent of Russia.
I had a friend in college whose grandfather was Finnish and fought in this war. Afterward he emigrated to the U.S. and then Pearl Harbor happened and he got drafted. However, the army officials had so much respect for Finnish soldiers that they let him choose what job he wanted.
How many troops you want to invade this small nation?
Stalin: Yes.
Stalin: Task your crew
Soviet Generals: How many?
Stalin: How many do you have?
This is lake when you Mad in game and send all trops and lose all :)
@@SERBIA1389SERBIA Ugh, reminds me of Civilizations when I send in my tanks (with general) against their musketeers, the game predicts a 95% chance of victory, and then I loose.
@Axios .king they won on paper. Realistically it was hugely humiliating and their losses here made germany believe the soviets were weak. This led to the breaking of the non aggression pact and ended up costing the lives of tens of millions of Soviets.
How you win matters more than simply winning when facing a vastly inferior opponent. They werent able to use the stuff they did win with regards to their original plan. The Germans still ended up surrounding leningrad and finland chose to remain relatively neutral simply because mannerheim believed hitlers position was more dire than they were being led on
If the US attacked mexico and we ended up losing millions of troops and thousands of tanks and planes while mexicos losses are comparably light. Well it doesnt matter if we eventually complete our objectives. No one would expect mexico to beat us, but if we look super weak attacking mexico then itd send a message to russia and china about our capabilities
@@wjzav1971 always hate when that happen in civ 4, the changes in civ 5 fixed that
From a Greek, respect for the Suomi.
I love me some underdogs kicking ass... Respect to the Fins!
No joke, I cheered up when the Finns started to win their counteroffensive.
The few times in history the soviets lost, are like warm memories to me =) *Fond helicopter noises*
these guys fought like true spartans, that's impressive !!!
Thank you. I hope we will continue improving our army, we are too much behind Russia in quantity, we had luck of USSR to be at bad condition as Stalin killed his generals
My grandfather fought in this war. He lost all his friends.
My grandmother's brother fought in this war too, lost his foot to a Finnish mine. He told stories about hardships as cold weather and lack of food.
Still got recruited during WW2, to drive a horse cart.
This is a horrible war to die in cuz it was completely useless and nonsensical and never had to happen
F for respect
@@affentaktik2810 for the soviets, yes, for finns it was dying to save our nation. They are well respected heroes.
Mine too 💪
Yes!! The Winter War is one of the greatest and most interesting conflicts of World War II 💪
The Winter war or "the 105 days of honor" as we call it in Finland.
Stalin thought that the war would end quickly. We know this, because when Finnish soldiers searched the pockets of dead Soviet officers, they found tickets to the victory parade that was to be held in Helsinki.
MrHakis who calls it the 105 days of honor?
@@vanukas8783 Well it usually is called winter war, but "105 kunnian päivää" is used every now and then as honorific of sorts. I don't think anyone primarily calls it "105 days of honor", and i don't think MrHakis meant to imply that.
@@vanukas8783 You must be quite young if you need to ask that.
otom20 oh? Really?
Russians failed tho
Soviets: Nooooo you can’t just use Motti Tactics and soldiers armed with sub
machine guns to divide and conquer with overwhelming close in fire.
Finns: Haha Suomi go brrt
Finland: Noooo you can’t just put in a competent commander and win the war on your terms
Soviets: Haha, offensives go brrrrr
Totuuden Puhuja
Finns: Noooo you can’t just defeat the Germans and make us fight a war to kick them out while also taking even more of our territory
Soviet: Haha Soviet Red army go zoom
@@tyrian_baal I'm glad you are so proud of your totalitarian past. Either way, Finland remained independent of the tyrannical dictatorship that is USSR. That's a major achievement in and if itself.
@@lookingforsomething I second the bravery of the Finns holding out against impossible odds.
@@Feffdc Fvck off Ivan!
"The Finns were less perturbed by the cold."
*knows how brutal the Russian winter has been historically*
WTF are the winters like in Finland? o_o
The red army had expected easy victory so their winter supply lines were not made for a long war. The red army had hoped to crush Finland before freezing mid-winter strikes the red army with full force.
from what i heard the soviet troops where from the southern parts of the nation, also that winter was one the coldest in recorded history.
@@spidermine7075 it's true that some units were from south like infamous 44th division in Raateroad which was from Ukraine. And it's true that the winter was cold. The story tells that in winter 1939-1940 even Venice's canals were frozen.
No snow in Helsinki but 2 meters in santa claus land
Cold
Can't wait for the battles around Suomussalmi.
What if we used lakes to kill tanks?
Yes...
Russian commander: it’s -25c just hold your ground.
Finnish commander: *laughs in snow*
In my family though we’re not Finnish we had 2 family members who left the US and went to join the Finnish people in the fight against the reds and I’m proud of them
Well done, and thank you!
That sounds like a fascinating story. It would be nice if you could give us some more.....
Amazing. As a Finn I feel gratitude towards those men.
@@formatique_arschloch agreed my friend even though I'm American I would help anyone who's nation is under attack by a tyrannical government such as the rotten reds in Poland and finland.
@@thesouthernhistorian4153 In democracy and our home we believe and fight for it.👍
I admire the Finns and respect their tenacity and protecting their country from the Communist horde of the Soviet Union.
Proud to be a finn ❤️🇫🇮
And you have every reason to be. You guys are highly reveered for it here in Danmark. Wish we could have done the same.
@@haraldsigurdsson1232 yes
@@haraldsigurdsson1232 LoL your entire army would surrender quickly to the Soviets, just as it surrendered to the Germans.
@@haraldsigurdsson1232 The funny thing is that the Norwegians, as complete fools, wanted to help others, but no Scandinavian country helped Norway when it was attacked. Sweden supplied the Wehrmacht with iron ore and made good deals with the Nazis, while Finland was their ally. Only England came to the rescue.
Greetings from Tunisia.. I've always admired that resistance against the red army and the bravery of Finnish soldiers including my favorite one: the white death Simo Hayha ❤
Those Finns... Well, they did give us the Molotov Cocktail (by name at least).
"Snow in mouth, hiding his breath
He is steady at hand"
In the distance, Sabaton...
@@TheSnarkyViking Yeppers! This dude was bad ass! He used a regular Mosin Nagant rifle (Actually, a Finnish made copy- M28/30) and iron sights. He was known to crawl through and lay in the snow for long periods of time, take his shot, jump on his skis and then get the hell outta' Dodge. He was hit in the face by a Russian "exploding' bullet that supposedly removed half his jaw and put him in a coma. When he came out of it and read his own obituary, he sent a letter and corrected them! He tried to fight later on and was forbidden because of his injuries. They don't get much tougher than this guy!
Keep making these videos! Screw the demonetization, you guys are awesome!
13:20
The Soviets used counter attack!
It hurt itself in confusion!
What kind of pokemon are you? How do you do the things you do...
I'm loving that the channel is going to such detail into fairly minor part of WW2 that only lasted some three months.
And i'm loving how an idiot (you are either a Russian or a pantywaist Swede) can't see the significance of a tiny badly armed nation of barely 3.5 million people, holding its ground and humiliating an aggressor with a population of 170 million people, and probably the most powerful military of its time. In comparison France, a well-armed country of 40 million people fell in six weeks.
Wow, the Finns really fought tooth and nails for their land (and yes, I know the Soviets were starved, freezed, etc.) but you can easily see many times where other armies would just simply retreat and give up but they didn't.
Ussr was jews not Russian and didn't care about the losses
If everything is on stake as it was it's just better to die trying than die in some soviet camps.
This must be tough In the freeze
should have stayed home then.
The world war 2 channel has also followed the Winter war week by week. Defenitely suggest everyone to check it out!
As Xerses had learned several centuries earlier, an army of slaves fights poorly.
finsk sisu i all ära. the Red Army paid dearly for their "victory"
I've become a patron so i'm early
The snow speaks Finnish...
*”PERKELE!”*
Well, the Soviet won the war so I don't think that joke is that funny anymore
@@nhienleminhhue6605 but for what cost...
@@dotboy9080 at the cost of not smashing your Ass to pieces like they did to Germany. They were kind to your nazi Ass.
@@dotboy9080 cost of replaceable soldiers and equipment in exchance of 11% of fingolian land which finns will never get back
@@nhienleminhhue6605 The US also won the Tet offensive..
I think the title is misleading. It should be "The Red Army's desperate attack against Finland"
Simo Häyhä, Belaya Smert "The White Death" approved this.
"Hundreds of kills, a man and his rifle
Embodied the Sisu of Finns"
@@Torgo1969 more than 500 to be exact.
@@IvanKala Yes. I have some Finnish clients and I think of The White Death when I see them. Simo is immortal in our hearts, in all of us that resist Bolshevism.
@@Torgo1969 real number was around 505. Respect
Is there any movie made on Sumo hayha?
Imagine how World War 2 would have played out had the Finnish been given 1000 M1 Abrams tank and 1000 Spitfires.
Without a doubt my favourite UA-cam channel brilliant content and narration thank you for existing
Finns are our brothers. I'm proud of them.
Ural-Altaic
@@sectorgovernor: The Altaic hypothesis hasn't convinced the majority of linguists, let alone any larger superfamily like Ural-Altaic.
Soviet army: " send in the T 34 tanks"
Flying Finns: "get me my skis"
T34 not created yet at that time.
@@Romkosss Soviet Army "T 34 not invented yet... oh crap, send everything."
@@Romkosss I knew that and it always made me wonder - what's the meaning of the number 34? It's not the weight, not the year of production, and not even the year of initial designs, I think. Is it because of the engine? Kharkiv model V-2-34 .
@@Kopyrda Maybe the year the plans were approved and patented. Think the 1st models were ready 39 or 40. I don't think it's a wonder a new model talkes 5-6 years to make functional. Tanks were a very new techology yet.
BUT: the designers of T-34 made a ground-breaking work - their designing principles are behind every functional tank design after that. They designed the ideal model for the time, and the following models of every country after WWII has followed the basic platform of shape, tracks, speed, suspension, armor. Of course new developements followed later, like the explosive armor enhancements, and all the electronics. But the principles of the hullwork: low as possible, slanted surface if possible, weight distribution, powerful gun -but sensibly: not extremely to hinder movement, rate of fire, balance, weight.
No most finns hate skiing and like disc golf
My grandmother was born in the Karalian region and she evacuated back to Finland during this war, and she met my grandfather, so if this war never happened I would never have been born.
I always enjoy these so much. The Finns fought gloriously.
Soviet: *Attacks Finland*
Simo Hayha and Mannerheim:So You Choosen.....DEATH
"The Finns were less perturbed by cold" - I think that sums it up nicely.
Both Soviets and Nazi made a mistake of underestimating Finland. Even after the Winter war wermacht wasn't impress and decided that Soviets lost only because they were weak. Well no. They lost cuz Finland were strong.
@Kürassier1806 The Finnish army doctorine is to make an attack too costly to be continued, we are aware that it just isn't possible to hold the lines forever. So mainly it's just inflict as much damage as you can, fall back, harash with small units and artillery, repeat.
Very nice video, I gotta say, I really love history about Finnish and Estonian people. I hope someday there will be video about Estonian War of Independence :)
I saw a movie about it in the Finnish TV, think it was autumn last year.
As a Finn, thats the first time I've heard anyone call that war a "desperate" defense. Despair did not prevent our country from being invaded. Perseverance, bravery and Motti-tactics did.
When snow starts speaking Finnish jokes incoming.
7:10
Too cold for the Soviets?
Just another day for the Fins! :)
THE Finn's are a NOBLE RACE, They fight like "HELL". BRAVO!!!!!
Just like the Vietnamese against Mongols and U.S., the Finns had an advantage of the mastery of their environment.
Well, to be fair, when the Vietnamese were fighting the US, they had the backing of Communist China. Further, they would retreat into Cambodia, which prevented the US from pursuing and destroying it. The Finns, on the other hand, did not have a "neutral" country to retreat to, and did not have a super-power behind them, they were on their own.
On paper, the North Vietnamese were losing the war, but they held out long enough to break America’s political resolve and public support for the war.
Except that the soviet army sucked at that time while the mongols and the US had by far the most powerful military forces at their time.
@@nymalous3428 and military equipment aids from both the PRC and USSR.
You are correct, the Finns didn't have anyone helps them at all, they fought against the USSR alone.
Vietnam had Soviet Union and China helping them ( proxy war)
19:18 “The Sausage War”? I’m sorry, what?
Da frek
The hunger stricken soviets got distracted by sausage soup, forgot the battle and started eating. Because of that they lost when the finnish counter-attack came
@@59Lemony those poor bastards
@@liampetersen7548 ehh screw em. My great grandfather and my grandmother lived in Agläkärvi at that time.
Wait did u Mean 1918's war?(WW1)
Russia ends where finnland starts 🚧
Yank For a small nation like Finland, it is a MAJOR victory and a TOTAL embarrassment for juggernaut of a country USSR.
@@Contrarian-C while the Soviet did eventually win it was embarrassing for them to have struggled with fighting a nation that didn't have anywhere near a population nor resources advantage and had ended up suffering heavier losses.
The Germans: Never try to invade Russia in the winter
The Russians: Never try to invade Finland in the winter
Ummm. Russians actually won.
@@dmitrijikharev2841 Strategic win yes but losses were enormous and Soviets didn't occupy Finland.
@@dmitrijikharev2841 What did they win? Huge amount of fallen Russians and a little piece of land. I wouldn´t call that a win ;-) Stalin made a huge mistake...
Fuck stalin for bullying Finland is not the fair contender but with GOD'S HELP SOVIET COVERDS WAS LOST, BRAVERY SAMO YAHYA
@@chrisleo841 You, Sir, with God's help should attain some English, or any other language, literacy. Then read a few books. You know, the ones written by real historians rather than your brothers in sharing the one brain cell. And only then I would consider posting anything in public fora such as this. Comprende?
So ridiculous how educational content about basically anything not wholesome gets demonetized, wouldn’t you want to reward educational content?
I just started watching your videos and I have to say they are fantastic
Respects for Finns! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Simply amazing. Thank you for your dedication 💙
So Stalin you invaded finland?
Stalin: -yes
And what did it cost?
Stalin: -yes
لم يكن يائس !
1/ اشكرك على جهودك وفعلاً انت مبدع
2/ نحن العرب نقول ان فنلندا هي البطله الاولى في العالم فقد دافعت بشراسه وصمدوا صمود الجبال امام قوه سرشة واعداد هائلة بشرية
ومات الالف من السوفييت
دول كبيره ضخمه وسكانها ملايين لم يقاوموا وسقطوا في ايدي الغزاة
My god it must have been so hard for the general of fins to make a strategy to defend a extreme wide battlefield with limited troops
I didn’t know about this war
These casualties from this era truly baffles me man
Idk why I get so pissed learning about the winter war. Seriously stalin was such a coward for engaging in this war.
Communism
Like I said stalin is dinosaur brainless man therefore he got soviets extinction
The poor performance in the Winter War led German strategists to severely underestimate the Soviets in 1941.
The first part of the Invasion was a slaughter of the Russians, but the delayed date of the invasion due to the Balkan and Greece theatre, and poor logistics the halted the war. But the mean reason was the US support of the USSR with massive supplies to keep the canon fodder long enough alive to open the Italian and the French front which won the war.
@Hissam Ullah Do you question that the US decided the war? How well did Russia against the Germans without the US in WWI?!
And this despite the fact that unlike in WWII, the Axis had also to fought Italy, and France was not invaded, but a bloody trench war bound the majority of the German forces at the Western front.
Russia fought only against a fraction of the German troops and was brutally beaten over and over again till they surrendered.
Without the US the USSR was nothing but an aggressor who could invade Poland and Finland. And Poland was already brought to her knees buy Germany, and Finland was also a disaster for the USSR.
And unlike Germany, Russia never atoned.
@@bluerisk I do not really want to get into a discussion who decided the war. It was a concerted effort. But many in the US & UK are simply not aware of the Soviet contribution because of the Cold War that started just after that. If you look at the numbers: The Battle of Kursk 1944 was the largest tank battle in history. It involved 2M soldiers. When the Allies finally landed in Normandy next year, the war had already been decided.
Compared to Kursk or Stalingrad the famous Battle of the Bulge was small by comparison: During this "western counter offensive" more than 70% of the German divisions were fighting the Red Army on the eastern front.
They learned the wrong lessons. The Red army was still in some disarray when Germany attacked, that much was true. But had they paid attention to how much material and manpower the Soviets could just throw away for little or no gain, the notion that the Soviets would simply surrender after getting their asses kicked for a while would have lost credibility. The German strategy in the invasion can be summed up with "kick the door in and the whole house collapses". When this didn't happen in the first year of the war despite enormous Soviet losses, it was basically game over.
"God is on the side with the best artillery" -Napoleon Bonaparte.
“General Frost, you’re engaging friendlies!”
What's with the snow disappearing and reappearing when you zoom in and out?
So you can see the actual terrain
Winter War is like a modern, theater-wide, longer Thermopylae. Stalin pretty much pressed humans against a meat grinder and hoped the grinder would get stuck eventually after shredding so many. Starting an offensive in November in a harsh winter country is so hilariously inept that any other country which didn’t have so much villagers to forcefully press into military service would back down after such a horrendous kill ratio.
That moment when winter works against the Soviets.
Actually the cover picture is a soviet tankist in 1942 or 1943. He was an art teacher before the war, and died in the following battle right after the photo was taken. In that battle his tank destroyed 4 tanks, several machine gun nests and anti-tank cannons. One of its tracks was broken but the crew kept firing till the ammunition was all out. Later, when the germans surrounded the crew and ask them to surrender, they refused with pisto fire. And at last, the germans burned the disabled tank with its crew, and this ex-art teacher died a heroic death.
If u happen to find this comment, pls consider change the cover picture. It would be more historcially accurate, and would be more respectful to the fallen who faught the cursed Nazi horde. Thank u.
Soviets: kalm
Forrest: *speaks Finnish*
Soviets: PANIK
More like "lakes", but yes :-)
Guys, I highly recommend Talvisota, or The Winter War mod now available for Rising Storm 2, it's bloody fantastic!!
Kollaa will hold unless ordered to retreat.
-Aarne Juutilainen AKA The Terror of Morocco
As renowned as Lauri Törni and Simo Häyhä
PS: He served in the same sector as Häyhä in Kollaa.
An outstanding video as always.
I have over 20 books just about this war, some in English and a few in Suomi, and I want to thank Kings and Generals for highlighting this little piece of a war that many know nothing about. This was not WWII, although many thought it was.
Jumala siunatkoon Suomea.
Kaveria ei jäteta.
What book would you recommend we start with if we want to learn more about the Winter War and Finland's fight against the Soviet Union?
@@tobiasbremner9623 Finland at War The Winter War 1939-40 by Vesa Nenye, Peter Munter, and Toni Wirtanen.
This book is a great start to learning about Talvisota. Great pictures so the reader can actually get an idea what was going on.
Another is The Hundred Day War by Gordon F. Sander. Deeper reading,, but chock full of information.
From these 2 books alone, you can get other books, via the footnotes, to dig deeper. But, if the authors have a Russian name be advised that they will shine a bit more light on the Russian war effort.
@@vanhasuden1044 Thank you for the great recommendations. As a history enthusiast this will make for great reading.
@@tobiasbremner9623 And as an enthusiast, these will definitely get you going. There were books written in the 50's, books about American foreign policy, books that seem similar, but have different points of reference, books that will make you feel like you were in the many battles, books about Finnish tactics, and if you are lucky you can find the Holy Grail of books by finding a book on Simo Häyhä, which the last time I saw it on line, sold for over $1600.00. I have 2 books on him, written in Finnish, and took me forever to translate. But were awesome and worth the time.
For Finns it was the WWII. And for Stalin it was connected with his thoughts on Germany. He was a suspicious mind: killed so many of the political and military leaders, so he didn't trust Finland to stay neutral, but allow German forces attack through it's territory. Well, no German troops during Winter War. In the -42 counterattack, yes.
So, it is WWII - it just makes the picture more complex. Like also how Soviet Union and Germany split Poland, though Poland was supposedly allied with France and UK. Guess they just knew they didn't have the strength to help. After the Winter War started, the USA, France and UK had some discussions that Finland should be helped, and before the war in the 30's UK and France had given some promises to help Finland. But I think the didn't want Soviet Union as their enemy, since they were anticipating German attacks. But some American Finns joined Finnish army, and UK did send a small voluntary force, was it a company or a few, or a battallion, don't remember. But they spent most of their time adapting to the winter, didn't learn to ski well - and finally they saw action as ambulance drivers.
Brilliant graphic display.
Nokia to 3310
"Your ancestor are stronger because of these" 😅 Note that Nokia at ww2 are helping Finland by acquired weapons and fighter Aircraft from US too..
Thanks for sharing the knowledge, 🇬🇧
Gotta love the quality of these videos
I love Finland for this war. One Finn might die, but he'll take dozens of Soviets with him 😂👌
@Jose Raul Miguens Cruz Finland 25904 dead or missing USSR 167976 dead or missing that's a ratio of 1:7. Nikita khrushchev estimated in his memoirs the Soviet losses to 1 million. Even if he exaggerated, the Soviet losses were so extreme that it deterred them from ever trying to occupy Finland. You are a pathetic liar like all commies!
@Jose Raul Miguens Cruz Finland still stands strong while the Soviet Union fell apart.
@Jose Raul Miguens Cruz They were idealists trying to unify and hold their nation together. The Finns had the same right for self governence as all nations, and Russians stripped dozens if not hundreds of nations of their independence and self governence. I would call that lunacy. Stalin was the real bad guy, Hitler was only the bullied, psychotic drug addict.
In this book, you will learn that nothing threatened the independence of Finland. Stalin asked for some plots to defend Leningrad and gave in return twice as much and compensation. The Finns rejected all offers and chose war. War is the Finnish choice.
To think how this would have been different if Stalin would not have executed many of his own skilled officers.
He had one very skilled general Mihail Tukhachvesky telling him basicly that this plan is insane and will not work, he said we should focus our forces in through Karelia into Helsinki 😂😂 unnecessarily complicated plan by Stalin had a huge part in this mess
Patrick Weber
Imagine if Finland had more ammo instead
@@LuisBrito-ly1ko And men
Someone should probably recommend this series as must watch material for the Ukranian high command
Russia: You can't defeat me in winter.
Finland: Hold my snow.
Finnland: I am the winter
i love your videos man!
I loved this video. Part of my ancestry is from Finland. And I was doubly impressed with how brave n audacious the Fins were. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
In principle, this episode of World War II in the USSR has not been sufficiently studied. The historical channels on UA-cam were also poorly lit. Therefore, I thank KnG for this, as well as the previous video on this topic
Cool new intro, K&G - I likes!
the winter war is one of my favorite stories in WW2 and its very underated.....the Fins took to red army and killed so many Russia soldiers...the only reason why Russia won was b/c they had a bigger army which mean they had a lot of man power...bt it gaven the impression to Nazi Germany if Russia had a hard time with Finland bt then just what would happen if they face the German army...so Hitlers and others Generals decided to invade Russia in 1942 I think......if Germany didnt made the great blunder to attack Russia...the whole story of WW2 would have been different story and you add in the "butterfly effect" and chance the world what we live in now?? never came to be......
Picker G. "Hitler's Table Talks." Hitler said the following: "The whole war with Finland in 1940 - as well as the entry of the Russians into Poland with outdated tanks and weapons and out-of-uniform soldiers - is nothing more than a grandiose disinformation campaign, since Russia possessed the latest weapons, which made it a world power. along with Germany and Japan. "
Wow the Finnish are brave.
Finnish troopers: dig in
Soviets: make massive attacks
*[Starship Trooper Theme Intensifies]*