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My grandfather was at Turkish parachute battalion, he said one thing before he passed away last year, which was already known; There are no victors at wars but traumatized survivors, dead bodies, and fat politicians.
vural bozyurt What did I say that was disrespectful? I’m saying he was lucky to have survived, which is true. I’m not sure if English is your first language because you don’t understand what I’m saying. In the English language what I said is perfectly respectful and a normal thing to say. Look if you want to call me uneducated learn English first. And actually understand what I meant before you jump to incorrect conclusions. It makes you look quite uneducated.
Guy who did the 3D art (terrain, animations, lighting, rendering) here - thank you! So far this is my second video for Kings & Generals (first being the "Falklands War") - I've learned a lot of about the software I'm using while working on both of these projects. The more I do them, the better the quality will get over time!
They even started the civil war in Greece after ww2 because fuck it they didn't want us to be with the Communists real shitstorm my grandparent was ok at shooting germans italians but to kill your own people is fucked up
Its called pax britanica=britain rule the world Of course its not pax at all But one day when technology will disappear then they are in critical trouble
England could not keep its colony so it divided it.... And still today you speed through thr British base in Cyprus your fine you pay to english sovereignty........
As my grandmother used to say: "My son, in our time there were no Greeks nor Turkish in Cyprus only christians and muslims" then she would proceed to tell me a story that occured in her village, about a christian mother that had a child and was not able to produce milk for it, so she gave it to a muslim woman, that also had given birth to a child around the same time, to feed the child for her.
Normally, there should have been zero Turks on the island. It was Greek for more than 3000 years. Why did Turkey allow their population to be left defenseless, aboard, in a territory that didn't offer them much. It is like I barge into your home one day and from the next day onward, we have to share the house and I demand that I have the same rights in that house like you do. How is this normal?
@@cezarstefanseghjucan What are you talking about mate, go read some history before making comments, if you believe that Turkish speaking Cypriots are Turks then you are missing the whole point. Go read about the revolutions of 1833 where the Cypriots jointly resisted the ottoman rulers. My linage goes beyond the times of of the Greeks, Alashiya is a still standing proof of my real linage. Calling my self Greek because I speak a greek based dialect would be an insult to my ancestors.
@@stfe6265 Dude, go sell your shit somewhere else. The Alashiya never spoke Turkish. You should at least speak Greek, because Greek is attested far earlier than any form of Turkish.
@@cezarstefanseghjucan You are talking out of your arse mate, who said anything about Sumers talking Turkish? This is not a contest between Turkey or Greece on who is better, I want both of them out of my country, you have done enough already and fuck your Greek based history they indoctrinated within you at school. Greeks have sold this island too many times, believing you are a Greek is an insult to your own country.
@@ehs1452 yeah but the root were British. It was just like arab-israel,India-Pakistan all over again. BTW turk did offer peace if it was not for that Cypriot Greek leader. I think you need to watch video carefully again. Rather than blaming one side.
@@virajxyz1840 "blaming one side" isn't that EXACTLY what you're doing? Seriously what we're the british supposed to do? Partition India, Israel-Palestine and Ireland amongst ethnic and religious lines and conflicts happen, don't do that with the middle eat and Africa and conflicts happen. What should they have done?
Conflict create by British : 1. China and Hong Kong 2. Pakistan and india war for kashmir 3. Palestine and Israel 4. Kurdish 5. Greece and Turkey over Cyprus
British imperialism is also responsible for the partition of Ireland, and the recent decision to leave the EU without any consideration for the people of Northern Ireland now threatens to reignite the Troubles. In this instance, the British legacy is twofold.
It was the Prince or whatever of Kashmir that decided to join India Britain didn't do anything and Hong Kong and China is a stupid argument since Britain basically stopped the Chinese imposing their communist ideals onto the people of Hong Kong.
@@cezarstefanseghjucan the official excuse was to save and protect the Turkish minority from the Greek right wing nationalists who were commiting attrocities against them. The true reason was to prevent the islands unification with Greece
@@vonzuchter I was stationed in Cyprus before, during and after this event. What this 'documentary' doesn't detail is the fact that the Greeks were buoyant after getting rid of Makarios and thought that unification with Greece was a done deal. Consequently they DID start committing atrocities against the Turkish people, particularly in the south of the island where they destroyed houses, restaurants and other businesses belonging to Turks. There were also incidents of Turkish civilians being shot and even being dragged behind cars by Greek civilians. All this was happening long before the Turkish reinforcements arrived.
@@someguyand...whatever23 do you honestly believe they were at peace before the British came? History is just one empire conquering another, there is never true peace. Just look at India, before the British was there, there was the mughal empire trying to conquer the land and dozens of other small kingdoms fighting each other, do you think that is peace? If anything Britain made peace by uniting all the land and creating fair and equal laws that prevent conflict.
@@logan8638 People that project their 21st century values upon history are just too ignorant and simple minded to understand the nuances of those time periods. These naive children think that if Britain, or the United States, or [insert any superpower] had not existed, then everyone in the world would be holding hands singing kumbaya. In reality, those superpowers were forged in a ruthless and brutal environment and if they had not become a superpower, an adversary would become the superpower and do the exact same things or worse [Nazi Germany].
@@logan8638 Dude I never said those places were at peace in the first place, the first person said it not me. Did you actually READ my sentence instead of assuming? Those countries and pleaces were never happy in the first place but the British HAD to step in just to make it worse. Stop using British propaganda to prove your point idiot.
@@think9747 both name have same meaning 1 is Turkish dialect other 1 is arabic maybe he is araboc also in my native its not written like that some native languages can be different
Not all of Kocatepe's crew sunk. Some of them were rescued by other ships. Including her captain Güven Erkaya who had been the commander of the Turkish navy in the late 1990s.
@@PatrasPhantom no they didn't fake radios. There was a greek convoy which really goes to cyprus to supply EOKA forces. But around of that convoy, Turkeys Battleship Kocatepe was in patrol mission. And Turkish Jets strike to Kocatepe. Kocatepe's warned Turkish Jets with radios and said that they are Turkish. But Turkish Jets thought that was fake from greeks to not to target the ship. And Turkish Jets Keep targetting to Kocatepe then they sunk the Kocatepe.
Kocatepe was part of a NATO task force weeks before this happened. Some of us American sailors met with our counterparts from the Kocatepe while in Toulon and we were invited aboard . It was sad to hear of her sinking and loss of life.
Holy hell you even used f-104 and f-100 which were exactly the type of aircrafts Turkish Airforce used during that time! Same with other vehicle models. The animations are literally perfect!
Wow great work, well done. My dad was in the Turkish Air Force at that time, operating one of the F-100 aircrafts for air to ground operations around Nicosia. My family is from Cyprus, and when I visited there I had a change to meet them also. They told me that they were living in peace with the Greek people before all those political manipulations took place. They also told me the times before the Turkish operation was very hard and brutal for them. Their village was occupied by Greek army and Eoka and many slaughters took place in front of their eyes. I don't mean that we did not do anything wrong and of course it is very sad for both sides. But when I witnessed what my relatives and Turkish cypriots have faced with, I became quite sure that Turkey was right to attack. Even though I used to be suspicious about the invasion and don't like militarism at all.
@@vasosglykeriou9252 Rauf Denktaş is one of the greatest politician my history has seen. He did what he did for the sake of his nation. May he rest in peace
TMT, BLACK GANG, AND 9 SEPTEMBER FRONT, WERE TURKISH-CYPRIOT PARAMILITARY ORG. RESPONSIBLE FOR TERRIBLE ATTROCITIES AGAINST GREEK -CYPRIOTS.. YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER....
@@altanata5060 the man , was a criminal in costumes ! Do you found it right , for you to try to built your community on our stolen lands and properties , just because of all those myths and fake stories they gives you ?
Maybe 500 historically accurate tanks, divided among how many players? And those are "tanks", not "kinds of tanks", so maybe they are all Type 95 Ha-Go.
Would be sweet to see how many they could get in NA, but they like to shaft us too much and just cancelled ranked last month. Not sure what their marketing strategy is when the one thing holding them down in NA is loyal players. So there goes another couple thousand.
@@Kael7777 you must be having a laugh.your lucky the us threatned turkey regarding the complete take over of cyprus.the greek miltary is no match to the turkish
I'm very biased against Turkey in most cases, but this time it felt to me like they were in the right. The divide was only done after they were denied the existing diplomatic solution. Why is Turkey seen as the "bad guy" of this war? Edit: If you're a turk don't reply
Countries that have always pissed of the west will be seen as the ‘baddies’ by the west. So countries like Russia, Iran,...are included in this list as well.
@@seriesmovies4195 As a Turk, I agree and don't be told how he treated one of our pilots while they were demonizing us there, damn it, they hammered nails in his neck and pierced his body with a drill and nobody knows it.
why is Turkey seen as "the bad guy" you ask. Well, I guess using the same logic they re using now about Ukraine war: "Russians are the invaders, so they must be the bad guys". In both cases, an oversimplification that tells only half the truth...
Kashmir wasn't because of the British per-say. Kashmir was an independent kingdom before it was forcefully invaded by Pakistani leading the king to ask for Indian support. India was only going to support Kashmir militarily if it joined the Indian Union. We can blame Britain for the partition but not the Kashmir issue.
British have a idea "Divide and Rule"! The use it for make colonies and rule easily. in indian subcontinent they provocation Muslim vs hindu clashes. For it they wrote false history. OTHER way all community lived peaceful in Muslim Rule. Doesn't it? frm Bangladesh 🇧🇩
@ Matzavas I mean I’m surprised you actually threw the Fault on yourself I mean As a Turk I think Armenian a Genocide happened but not in the way you think like the Ittihat ve Terakki were controlling the Ottoman Empire and I think they are the ones to blame since “the Government” did the Genocide
Zaob Min oh please..... you have the 8th most powerful army in the world, and Greece isn’t even close to that. I think turkey is considered a superpower (at least nowadays). Well, indeed you are in quite a weird situation between Russia and USA which are the two most powerful nations, however this still doesn’t mean you aren’t a superpower. Plus, you also have countries like Sudan, Azerbaijan, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Albania (both in balkans), Pakistan, and believe it or not Britain on your side. They are some of turkey’s closest allies.
@@yagizz5421 Olsa bile animatörler, tarih danışmanları ve tarih kaynakları, hiyerarşisindeki diğerleri değil. Bu video gayet taraflı resmi olarak bizde evraklı bulunan çocuk sayılacak yaştaki kızlarımıza yapılan toplu tecavüzler ve infazlar, çocuk ve bebek cinayetleri, işkenceyle katliamlar ve toplu mezarlardan neden bahsedilmedi? EOKA'nın terörist olduğundan neden bahsedilmedi?
Cyprus was leased to the British by the Ottoman Empire for 50 years in exchange for money! They invaded and gave it to the Greeks. Stop telling the lie that the Turks are occupied!
Cyprus is a Greek civilization thousands of years back, from the first civilizations of ancient Greece. Don't ignore it. At some point, Turks also entered. I wish that there will be a solution and that the Turkish politicians will stop asking for new conquests and spreading hatred so that the two peoples can live in peace. Erdogan is very much to blame for this.
Cyprus was occupied, brother, because the Ottomans had rented the island to the British. Yes, the administration was left to the British. But actually Cyprus was Ottoman territory. When the Turks formed an alliance against the British in the First World War, the British completely annexed the island. Later, until the Republic of Turkey became the guarantor state. Türkiye and the Turks on the island did not have a say in the region.
Great video but in my opinion you should have written unit names/numbers on the map next to or below the soldier figures representing them. Listening to unit names/numbers can be confusing when you list them verbally like you did ^^
It is not a bad idea but not for this video because it is condensed. If it were a longer video he could have put the unit names under the numerous units, one at a time, alone, showing their locations. Not in this video. It would have looked chaotic.
@@TomYawns My comment is nothing more than some constructive criticism from a purely consumer perspective that in no way violates UA-cam's or this channel's commenting policy. If you were, for any reason whatsoever, offended by it I suggest you quickly head off to the nearest safe space where your anxiety can cool off. Much love xxx
No one is foolish enough to prefer war from peace. In peace, sons bury their fathers. In war, fathers bury their sons. Herodotus, 480-420 BC, Ancient Greek historian
States are created by war, none of the powerful States of our time would exist without it. I don't say it's a good thing but it's a fact and if you live in a powerful and rich State, chances are that you are able to enjoy your way of life thanks to wars won by your country in the past decades or centuries. There are always a few exceptions of course like in the case of city-States, but it is true for the majority of modern States.
@UNIVERSAL SPACE EXPEDITIONER Last time Greeks claimed that they own the island was 1974 and they ended up losing the half of the island. It's goddamned 2019 now. Do you want us to take the other half too? Lol.
UK still has several military bases on the island which many want rid of, but with a split and weak government I don’t see those bases being left any time soon. The bases in question provide secure Sigint and air bases to the Med and Middle East. Unfortunately we still have those like our “Cyprus is Greek” chap spouting rubbish that doesn’t make sense which is underlined after watching this video. Whilst there are still people of the same mindset in the south of the island there will never be peace there, no matter how hard people like Kofi Annan try to persuade them to vote for peace. Meanwhile the British forces remain in their bases on the island. Guarantors if ‘Peace’....
What is strange about it! Turks do not speak Greek, Greeks cannot speak good enough Turkish to discuss such a complicated issue. Who won the War??? This video is all about it. Turks finally stoped the war siplited the island into two separate part and given half of the ısland to Greeks (Rum= Roman Christians of Ottoman empire).
Guy who did the 3D stuff here - thanks for the crit, I'll try and see if I can somehow implement that kind of info on the units themselves in future vids (e.g. on the flag for vehicles, on the pedestal for infantry).
Petros Andrianidis so when Greek terrorrist organisation Eoka (im not saying greeks are terrorrist) was killing turkish people living in cyprus, it wasnt anything but when turkish people wanted to protect their people (there were documents prooving us right) it was an invasion?
@@arcaipekyun4232 EOKA was not a terrorist group it was about liberating Cyprus from the Brits. If it wasn't for them then Cyprus would not have its independence in 1960. When Cyprus became free (because of EOKA) Turkish speaking people in Cyprus received the same rights as all the rest.
The names of the both operations are really cool. Aphrodite; you most probably know, the Goddess of Beauty, was believed to be born out of the waves of coasts in Cyprus. Atilla on the other hand was the man, as everybody knows, who brought Romans to their knees. Considering Greeks are often considered as the descendants of the Eastern Romans, very cool analogies on both sides.
Çünkü sen ab vatandaşı olup gurursuz yaşamak için herseyini satarsın. Sizin için canlarıni veren dedelerimize yazık. Ayrıca bu sene selanikteydim. Tesadufen kiliseye geziye gittim. Anma toreni yapılıyordu. Emin ol rumlar, yunanlar bir türkle beraber yaşamak istemiyor. Adamlar bizim, sizin kanlarımızı içse doymazlar. Gtünü kaldır, çalış kendini geliştir.
Congratulations mate! Your video was so successful it made it to Cypriot local television and was praised for its creativity and accuracy! I’m glad you’re finally gaining the acknowledgement you deserve!
That;s such a servile attitude... The Video is well made yes... but it distorts and skips CRUCIAL points... which falsify the impression that a non-expert would get by watching it... After watching it... what would you say is the proper and just way to resolve the Cyprus problem?
@@yannitzili8961 My friend do really expect to get a response that would give a fair and just solution to a problem that has troubled so many people over the last 50 years in a UA-cam comment section? It wouldn't matter even if this video were 5 hours long and full of all the intricate details, it was a very complicated situation and still is.
@@xolwraak7348 there is no TRC. There is only the Republic of Cyprus. The occupied part of Cyprus never belonged and it will never belong to Mongolian Turks. Even with all the Anatolian uncivilized settlers that Mongolian Turkey brought in still the Turkish population of North Cyprus is less than 1/3 of the pre-1974 Greek population of North Cyprus... It's quite funny that Erdogan pretends to support the Palestinians against their occupiers the Israelis and help them get rid of the Israeli Apartheid... But in Cyprus Turkey did the same as Israel did against the Palestinians! Both occupiers will be sent back to where they belong... the Mongolian Turks back to Central Asia to find their brothers the Uyghurs and the Israelis (who are neither Jewish nor Semites) back to Europe to find their European Polish and German brothers.
@@yigithanozturk7556 first of all I am talking about kastelorizo and the other half of Cyprus idk what you are talking about cause you always try to pass the borders with no permission and randomly targeting islands with the excuse "they are close to us" when in reality that doesnt matter
@@HerewardWake equal deal? People were killing eachother and the president was put down. Minority Turks were getting killed by EOKA. What was Turkey supposed to do? At least it was not like America giving "freedom and democracy" or Russia invading Ukraine or Georgia.
@hunter soon Turkey is not seeking relations with Greeks. They do not want the unification of the island, because TRNC is their place for illegal betting and money laundering.
@@axelmarin1041 Equally sided? Who would win? A highly trained military force with decades of experience in open and counter insurgency warfare who received open active military support from 2 of the most militaristic powers of the time. Or Some peasant bois with rusty rifles? The answer will shock you.
Does "peasants" held the industrial part of the country, had their own militias which had more than "rusty rifles", were supported by almost all the navy and air force (they could have blocked the african troops in Morocco but were incompetent), integrated thousands of international volunters to their army ranks (some of them veterans from WWI), were supported massively by the Soviet Union, Mexico, etc. Saying both sides werent equally matched is at best debatable.
@@bluehelmi1672 The issue is that the Spanish Air Force in 1936 consisted of about 13 biplanes of varying levels of outdatedness. Hence why the German air lift succeeded. The industry held by the Republic in 1936 is not suited to production of arms, and the Republic relied heavily on an overcharging international market, indeed this is what spells the death of the republic throughtout the war. See Howson's book Arms for Spain for more detail, but arms dealers would often charge upwards of 200% market price for very outdated rifles. (The 1st British volunteers in Spain went into action at Lopera armed with m1888 Manlicher rifles without the necessary en bloc clips meaning they were effectivley single shot weapons.) After this, the Republic's reliance on militias in mid 1936 meant that resistance to the Army of Africa was wholy ineffective as militias wouldn't fight outside their home provinces or even their villages. They were steamrolled in open country due to lack of experience in this kind of warfare and the nationalists were able to sweep up the nation, connect their disparate territory. By the time of the International Brigades arrving en masse in November 1936 the Nationalists already had Madrid under siege, prevented the Catalans from taking Zaragoza, and taken Irun cutting the Basque region off from any possible French aid (which would realistically never arrive anyway given Franc'es political situation)
@@bluehelmi1672 The issue is that the Spanish Air Force in 1936 consisted of about 13 biplanes of varying levels of outdatedness. Hence why the German air lift succeeded. The industry held by the Republic in 1936 is not suited to production of arms, and the Republic relied heavily on an overcharging international market, indeed this is what spells the death of the republic throughtout the war. See Howson's book Arms for Spain for more detail, but arms dealers would often charge upwards of 200% market price for very outdated rifles. (The 1st British volunteers in Spain went into action at Lopera armed with m1888 Manlicher rifles without the necessary en bloc clips meaning they were effectivley single shot weapons.) After this, the Republic's reliance on militias in mid 1936 meant that resistance to the Army of Africa was wholy ineffective as militias wouldn't fight outside their home provinces or even their villages. They were steamrolled in open country due to lack of experience in this kind of warfare and the nationalists were able to sweep up the nation, connect their disparate territory. By the time of the International Brigades arrving en masse in November 1936 the Nationalists already had Madrid under siege, prevented the Catalans from taking Zaragoza, and taken Irun cutting the Basque region off from any possible French aid (which would realistically never arrive anyway given France's political situation) Soviet Support came (as all Soviet support did) at the end of massive expenditure and the effective morgaging of Spain's entire gold reserve. So by the end of 1936 we have a relatively inefficent industry, supported by an indifferent ally, and an ally across the ocean, unable to help due to Nationalist dominance of the sea (thanks to the sailor's committees being very coy in the running of their ships and the admirals desrting to the nationalists) whose military, frankly, isn't and is only effective in urban warfare. vs a highly trained army, with a strong political grip on their zone of control, backed by two allies who were in it up to the hilt in exchange for economic concessions. (the Soviets never sent anymore than advisors the CTV numbered 70,000 by war's end) So yeah it is an unbalanced fight. Not unwinnable given some more favourable circumstances for the Republic or more overt Soviet support, or the involvement of France and Britain. (or even just France) But these things were unlikely for a myriad of reasons.
God bless the Turkish army. The great Turkish army stopped the fascist and great Greek dreamers who murdered thousands of innocent Turkish Cypriots.🙏🏻🙏🏻
@KONSTANTIN XXX well actually, during the Ottoman Empire and early days of the republic before the population exchange, Greeks and Turks lived a friendly life. In fact, over time Turkic people who came to Anatolia mixed so much with the Greek (as well as middle easterners, native Anatolians, Caucasians, and other Europeans) that genetically and culturally the two nations are similar in many ways. Conflict aroused with the manipulation of big states who benefited from conflict, there's no reason for the two nations to be enemies
@KONSTANTIN XXX 1453 is just a date when Constantinople changed administration. 1913 well is just a regular year i guess. Greeks and Turks lived together wat before 1453 and way after 1913. Two tiny nations hating each other and throwing tiny military tantrums is nothing good for both parties.
I couldn't believe it when I read Turkish history. 1000s of absolute battle wins. The best war industry, education, teaching, scientist, artist, writer shaped the world in time.
Kashmir, Korea, Cyprus Three frozen conflicts Three disasters all proving that the UN has failed miserably. In fact, the UN has failed more than the Leauge of Nations.
Korea wasn't a disaster though, the UN achieved its main goal of preventing the communist forces from overtaking South Korea. It was a stalemate really.
When u think about it, the Turkish invasion of Cyprus was inevitable. It’s a late extension of the Turkish conquest and the extinguishing of Greek culture in the Mediterranean. It’s actually surprising that Turkey waited so long to use military against Cyprus.
@@单向度人 WW3 or not, europe was left divided for decades, and the world was riddled with regional conflicts and violence, and it still is. The UN was supposed to prevent further conflicts, but after WW2, it was only used as a tool for the major world powers to fulfill their personnal goals, mostly through escalation and war.
@@Thormil576 It was also a result of bad policy making. The dictator in Greece sought to unite with cyprus to bolster his legitimacy due to poor handling of internal affairs, while president Makarios was sympathetic to the Soviets, to say the least, and refused to cooperate with the US and Britain. Note the Russian T-34 tanks used by the Greek Cypriots. It was a cituation that Turkey could easily exploit.
Turkish Cypriots have always accepted that the Greeks are part of the island. But the Greeks did not accept that the Turks were part of the island. There is a reason why the Greeks killed the Turks. And what reason do the Turks have?
Having lived for some years in Greece let me offer you some extra historical information about this period. The millitary junta running Greece was very unpopular and a year prior they had attacked young students in Athens protesting against their regime the 1973 anti-junta rally in the university of Athens had several dead and wounded. Makarios on the other hand refused to be the puppet of the curnals running the junta so the Enosis was a pretext to overthrow him and have a loyal guy there. So the whole thing pretty much started because the military coup in Greece was on it's last legs and tried desperately to survive The sad part i experienced being in both Greece and Turkey was that the average people never were pro-war, but they still allow goverments and great powers to play them like dolls. Greece always was influenced by UK and USA and Turkey by USA and lately Russia. Grow up and realise that the days of Byzantium and Ottoman are behind us and try live a normal life the superpowers of the world are no longer Turkey and Greece.
as a Greek I couldn't agree more. Sad thing being under a regime that is hateful towards anyone but themselves. History tells us that when a regime is on the brink of collapse they always start a war. And that's what happened with Cyprus
Only resolution with the islands would be a joint alowence for both populations imho. There should be a non militarized zone and a no fly zone for military aircrafts to prevent future clashes at it happens frequently. Turkish air force is an agressor on that demand while greek air force also makes agressive flights time to time. The real problem is the governments, while greeks are mild the Turkish government today is shifting towards nationalism and islamism day by day. Which is the opposite of 1974. The real red line with the islands is the territorial waters, there has to be a joint economical zone for that which needs to be accapted by both nations, only non stop passage allowed for military and a free movement for the individuals and other vessels. All of this might prevent the problems about who has the land and water. It can be, should be and will be resolved like this eventually. It has to be since greeks and Turks who lives in the coasts are not very different. Their lifestyles and cultures are pretty much identical. They just need a common ground guarenteed by their own governments to be happy and to stay out of all this nationalist bullshits.
as a turkish i want to underline about "importance of education". Basically both sides are poor countries and they have no vision for future. Both sides only proud from past, not even TODAY. I wish for peaceful aegea, love from izmir.
Get ready for "this comment section is ....", "this comment section is about to be ...." and "here before Turkish/Greek nationalists" comments because they will be more than anything else.
EOKA was an guerrilla organization formed at 1955 that fought a campaign for the end of British rule over Cyprus. EOKA B was formed on 1971 and had a way more nationalist goals in mind. It was in fact considered a terrorist organization by RC.
@@hwhshhsjsjahzjsnns6719 EOKA B did that. Two completely different organizations. And trust me many Greeks think "than god for EOKA B that way we got rid of our junta". EOKA fought for the independence of cyprus 10 to 20 years before 74.
@@mp44christos "instigated by both sides." yeah sure buddy here are some fact that states otherwise: -"The spark that ignited the explosion of violence happened at 02:30hrs on the 21st December when Greek Cypriot 'special constables' shot dead two Turkish Cypriots who refused to show their identity cards." -"After the shooting,crowds of turkish cypriots gathered in the northern part of Nicosia,often led by the Turkish Resistance Organisation(TMT).On 22 December,the funerals of the victims were held without incident.However,shooting broke out on the evening of December 22.Cars full of armed Greek Cypriots roamed through the streets of Nicosia and fired indiscriminately and Turkish Cypriots fired at patrolling cars." -Robert Stephens in 'Cyprus - A place of Arms' describes the fighting as follows; "Greek Cypriot security forces, police and armed irregulars, mostly ex-EOKA, launched a massive counter-attack on the Turkish Cypriot positions in Nicosia." and this is the exact reason Turkey invaded the island in 1974 to prevent same shit happening again. I'm not saying turks were all innocent in this scenario because both communities has produced its own melodramatic accounts of the December 1963 fighting but i think it is quite easy to see the discrimination and the violence,hatred against turkish cypriots by both the goverment and the majority of the people(greek cypriots).
I was there as an 8 year old child in Famagusta. They were terrible times in a beautiful island I still consider home. I hope that one day, we can all return and live in peace
greeks don´t belong to any isle near turkey..still they call it Greece territory. Paint Greece flags to small isles which belongs to turkey.@@akritasdigenis4831
Fun fact: The flag of "Cyprus" - the greek controlled part of Cyprus, was designed and made by a turkish cypriot, when Cyprus still was unified as one state.
@@outatisater7943 Cyprus before the invasion would never have worked. I think its better this way. A Turkish part, and a Greek part. Unification will only cause more and more problems
I graduaded from TRNC (Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus) university which is EMU. My department was "international relations and political science". I took Cyprus issue as a course and I also read Greek and Greek Cypriots claim. Before the watching video, I assume this video also biased. I was prepare for writing historical facts etc. However, I watched video and I have to say thank you becuase of neutral video. It is really important for peace and science. In political channels, they are trying to tell biased stories but if you aim to publish "historical facts", that means you have to follow history. History is a science. You made it. This video also another proof of this channel has a correct way. I specially thanks to you. Also I personelly don't have any enemy feeling to Greeks. I believe Atatürk words which is "peace at home, peace in the world". For that reason, historical facts will be ground of a peace. In that direction, following turth and being biased really important. You gain my respect one more time. Thank you.
No personal feelings either. But we have to know the history of the nations. We Greeks have a lot shit going on inside ours (from our war for independence, etc), but Kemal was no saint either. Yes, he reformed Turkey to a more "western" society, but he was by no means a "peacekeeper". The genocides commited against Armenians and Greeks inside Turkey have to show for it...
@@GalaxyTracker Armenian genocide claim is a political issue these days. experts and courts should be addres but countries pass a law from their parliaments. This is just political move. You also claim about Greek genocides, on the other hands; we are claiming Turkish genocides and massacre made by Greeks in Ege region of Turkey (before independence war) and also in Cyprus. Both side have evidence according to themself. When I check Greece Foreign Ministery and Southern Cyprus Administration webpage, I saw they are including just "intervention". However what happened before? What and why Makaryos wanted to change? Why Greek Cypriots tried to change 10 articles etc? I couldn't find. There are too much examples from both side. UA-cam is not a solution for that. Expert should discuss. Some historians changed their mind after they visited to Ottoman archives. For that reason all archives should be open to historians and experts (Turkish and Ottoman archives are open). Please read Admiral Bristol report. these are not our job. Experts should discuss is these claims and international criminal courts should give a decisions without political moves.
@@EmreCetinizleti First of all, Armenian genocide is not just a political issue. There are thousands of evidence and it is a historical fact. What made it a political matter is the denial of Turkey to aknowledge it and the pressure on other countries to do so. Because, let's face it, the political agenda defines what is "officialy accepted". Secondly, when I talked about Greek genocide, I was referring to the Pontic genocide which too is not aknowledged. Did you read my comment? I already said that we Greeks have many shit in our history., but I aknowledge them, I don't hide behind my finger. My point was that Kemal was NOT a pacifist as you meant in your comment by stating his words. Yes, he was a reformer of Turkey and a great leader for his country, but how did he do it? Both by socioeconomical reforms and by the blade against the other populations living in Turkey. We have to know our history in order to not repeat past mistakes.
@@GalaxyTracker Turkey accept events of 1915 and you can find an article on foreign ministery (title : "Controversy between Turkey and Armenia about the Events of 1915"). They were Ottoman Empire citizens. When you read Turkish claims, you will see our view. Problem is that, international society try to accept 1915 events as a Nazi genocide. These are totally different as a international law. There is no orders such as Nazi orders. You can find omission about "protection of Armenians" but we were in war and there wasn't enough manpower. When you consider, these days accepted as a collapse of Ottoman; evidence and orders could be evaluated. But if Nazi genocide is accepted as a genocide, 1915 events were different in this frame. In Turkish view, we accepted these political moves as a result of Turkish and İslamic hate from Europe. Europe is not interesting to research Sétif and Guelma were genocide made by French or not... In this context, we don't trust international society. If we speak as a international law, I have to say again; I don't agree 1915 event was a genocide but let assume it is; according to international law, law can not applied before. Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide resulted was 1948. If we have to speak as a "technically", Nazi's are not accused from "genocide". I couldn't remember because 5-6 years ago I analyze Nuremberg and Tokyo courts and there wasn't "genocide" beucase of the reason I point above. They were responsible of "crime against humanity" for example. However, later Germany accept to genocide. If they didn't, still you can't accuse them. Genocide describe and punishment accepted at 1948. For that reason, international society and Armenian lobbies are pushing for politically. If we speak unbiased and according to basics of international law, while Turkey reject; they don't do anything if there is genocide but still I'm saying, there wasn't genocide, there wasn't tension. It says (article 2) " acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such...". When you think "people are death, there is genocide" no you it is wrong. You have to show that, there is intent to destroy and other conditions. For that reason, "technically" 1915 event is not similar to Nazi genocide. You can find orders and documents about "intent to destroy Jewish people". There are ongoing debate and technical differences. As a result, there should be objective and expert opinions and decisions. Political pressure is just giving power to Erdoğan that is all. He is saying "Europe is jelaous to us", "we create strong Turkey and they don't want".. While it is going on, law and democracy is getting worst in Turkey. Political pressure is just a tool used by ruling government as a gaining power. Turkey will not accept genocide claim. We are already accept whay happened 1915, which is people death. From now, we have to focus to develop friendship (as a citizen). Who nows, one day we may drink rakı and uzo in Agean sea together (: Have a nice day.
@@EmreCetinizleti I would like the latter part of your answer (to drink raki together). I myself live in an area with many Muslim and Turkish people, being friends with them. To return to the answer though, let's accept what you say about the term "genocide". Do you realize what happens here? I am talking about historical facts, call it genocide, war crimes, whatever you want, which is the extermination of a population and you are talking about the little words which is exactly what Turkish politicians are trying to argue about, not the bigger picture. And this is not just for the courts. To the people it is being known such as "we don't accept the genocide, nothing happened there". Even though SOMETHING happened indeed. And still you didn't mention my primary point which was that Kemal was not a pacifist based on the population he killed and drove out of Turkey. And I will say just that, because I was reading some material about the Greco-Turkish disputes. I see that it is a continuus policy of Turkey to play with words. One example is the 12 nautical mile dispute where Turkey threatens Greece with war over Greece's right to expand its territorial waters to 12-mile according to the International Law of the Sea. A law which Turkey has not signed, BUT it has followed by using the 12 miles in the Black Sea and Mediteranean. So, why does Greece not have the right to do it? If you read how our disputes have been resolved through the years you will see it is a constant policy of Turkey to follow the international laws only when they see fit, and when they don't, they try to push the decisions by millitary might (1995 resolution about the casus belli if Greece expanded to 12-miles, etc). If you were an outsider, not a Greek, not a Turkish, how would this seem to you?
Isn't it strange that the international community recognizes the Republic of Northern Ireland as a part of the UK but not the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. The EU states that there should not be a divided island in the EU thus it will not recognize the TRNC, but they make an exception for Northern Ireland. European double standard at its finest! Taksim yaşasın!!!
Wait a minute ..! At first , we all know that the north part of the island, is occupied by Turkey since 1974. The majority of all those are still our stolen lands and properties.! What is it ..? is it in your nature , to ..steal .! To be thief's..!
@ipsiz1929 OTTOMANiac dreamers ! That is of what you all are .! What is it , ... Is those tales, you all learning during your army service ? The island of Cyprus, have Greek history , Greeks , we are here since after the Trojan war ! About 3500 years ago ..! Ottomans , we're a unity of Asian kins , a large amount of army's, ..with the only desire to conquer and steal . Ottomans , take all the Arab world , till outside Austria . IS even Israel , your lands ? is that of what you think
The British and Greeks are responsible for this situation. This was Turkey's only solution against the Greeks who committed genocide against the Turks, and this was a legitimate right.
@@Spyros5k This has nothing to do with Cyprus. This makes you a racist to call a nation to be wrong in all circumstances even on the ones that documented history proves otherwise. Nazis also genocided Jews yet today, only after 75 years, Germans as a nation do not be accused of fake accusations. It is up to Greek and Armenian racism against Turks as a nation not Turks as a political era. Not Turks who are not hateful against Greeks and Armenians today but Greeks and Armenians should grow up, digest the bloody history, move on for the future. Otherwise in each step you will try to harm Turks, you will win sometimes you will lose sometimes. And it won't let to any good outcome for neither nation. Greeks came to earthquake relief, both nations mourn for the wildfires. Grow up, be a responsible humanbeing, we share the climate, the sea, the land. Act like a responsible neighbour. Nobody likes to live next to a hateful, angry man. You behave, Turks behave. Hope you understand I don't hate you or your nation, actually I am sympathic towards Greeks more than any other nation as a Turk myself.
3:50 you state that the Greek Cypriots were not happy with the privileges given to the Turkish Cypriots. The word ‘priveles’ is incorrect. The word is ‘rights’ . Privilege would denote preferential treatment, which was not the case.
I am so going to enjoy this! Man i've been a fan of this channel for a long time. Watched all the videos and i was hoping for a Cyprus video. Greetings from Cyprus!!!
i was there in all of that conflict as a un soldier we rescued many people when the port of limassol fell to the greek cypriot forces. many women and children were imprisoned in a football stadium, and at great risk to our selves a few of us negotiated with the greek cypriots who were pretty high and gun happy after their victory there but we got many civilians out, we also managed to convoy many mixed nationals from areas under direct fire to safety;at various times, delicate times,
@@williamdavis9562 He never mentioned the burning of entire villages or slaughtering of inhabitants, and the corralling of civilians into football stadiums was as he said for 'imprisonment' not extermination. Why engage a force militarily when it can be achieved diplomatically.
@@williamdavis9562 Atrocities against Greek-Cypriots and Turkish-Cypriots did occur, but what I meant is that in the situation David Gaston mentioned, there were no instances of the violence you are implying and he proves in his encounter that diplomacy is just as effective as force in those occurrences.
@Roygbiv 1) There we no instances of violence in the situation described by David Gaston, maybe you should read my comment again. 2) Ethnic cleansing and genocide are the same thing, both are mass murders based on ethnic prejudice. 3) Last I recall I wasn't even born anytime near the War in Cyprus so I am pretty sure I didn't try to commit an ethnic cleansing. 4) And lastly, the ethnic killings were mutual, the argument that it was 'self-defence' is a commonly used arguments by Turks, especially in the case of the Armenian genocide. So are you telling me that the massacres at Asha, Prastio, Eptakomi and Angolemi, where Turkish Cypriot militia men and Turkish soldiers tied up civilians (including women and children), shot them and dumped their bodies in mass graves were in self defence. If you want any of the links to the evidence of these massacres, the European Parliament has quite a few, so just dm me.
@Roygbiv Once again whats with all the 'you'. No I did not start the war in Cyprus, no I am not at fault and no, I wasn't trying to put an end to Turkish existence anywhere lmao. Lets look at the facts here, seeing as I've already proven you wrong I may as well continue to do so. Ethnic killings between the two sides did happen before war broke out but on a relatively minor scale. EOKA led a coup which removed the Government and took over, Turkey then invaded, war then broke out. Arguments for who started would therefore bounce between different sides, Turks arguing Greeks and vice versa. Escalation of the war was caused by Turkey however, seeing as after the first invasion, EOKA fell and the old Government came back in and therefore wanted peace again, but Turkey pressed on and invaded which led to thousands more dying and severe escalation. So Turkey would be the right person to blame for escalation and for the state the war got to. Lastly, neither side's Government were attempting to commit genocide although both sides did have groups of soldiers who did so, and to answer your earlier statement, if records are correct more Greek Cypriot civilians were recorded to have been killed than Turkish Cypriots.
As a Turkish man, I served in Cyprus as a mandatory military service as every Turkish man has to, The things I saw were bad for both sides in economic and everything, I hope they'll make a peace one day and unite as one.
stelios 200 6 bruh when will you guys stop being another supreme powers puppet? Man fucking said something good and you idiots even puke your hate on that too bc hes turkish and worst part is you are the same guys who cry boohoo turks hate everyone fucking get on with it
stelios 200 6 yeah then you tried to conquer anatolia then get your ass kicked and go back to cry Britany bruh you guys sittin on the islands you doesnt even own in the paper they are still ours just like kardak
From Cyprus to Ireland, and from Palestine to Sri Lanka, the British Empire left a legacy of poisonous hatred and ethnic conflict. Why? While all colonial empires were bad, the British had an especially harmful arrangement for dealing with subject peoples, namely, dealing in "communal" not "individual" rights. Of course, this also served their "divide and rule" tactics (used by all imperial systems in history) but it was not only that, for you can see its harmful consequences in Britain itself today ("parallel societies", "Londonistan" etc.) Compare this with the French colonial practices, which, in my view, were far more progressive and beneficial. Of course the French were also racist and exploitative, and committed horrible atrocities in their colonies (Algeria, Vietnam etc.) But French ideology and nation-building were (and remain) Universalist and Republican. Thus, in former French colonies, there developed a progressive and unifying anti-colonial nationalism, that helped form nations, not "communities" that were at each other's throat....
@lvan Big Nob I wouldn't say that. Morocco and Vietnam are relatively successful states, for example. But this isn't my point. All colonial empires were bad, racist and exploitative but the British practice of dealing with people in a "communal" basis meant that all ethno-cultural and religious differences were made a million times worse, and you can see the results the world over, and even in Britain itself. The most tragic example is, of course, the Indian Subcontinent.
@lvan Big Nob I don't hate the British, or the French, or the Americans, or the Chinese. And I'm not a "silly Arab". But you are a sorry little racist. There is no point in having a discussion, therefore.
@ I am very aware of the hatred between these two peoples. My point was about the nature of British statecraft and its harmful consequences, including in Britain itself today (when people accuse the British, they usually speak of the "divide and rule" tactics, which, if you read carefully my original comment, I do not). Namely, the main problem was dealing in "communal", not "individual rights". You might agree or disagree with that, but don't say that I hate the British. I've been to Britain and I liked many things there, and especially the people. A lot. But that has nothing to do with historical assessments or the practice of statecraft.
@ marcus Hayneiz Well, I don't disagree with most of what you say here. You probably didn't read my original comment carefully, and where exactly the British made things worse..
@ You have a completely Eurocentric perspective. I find it astonishing that in the 21st century someone would defend colonialism. Everyone should be proud of his/her culture, but not defend aggressive expansion and violence. And to repeat, I'm not saying that the French were better people or had nicer motives than the British, just that their way of governing helped form modern nation-states. There are other areas where the British proved to be much more progressive, women's rights for example.
There is no need for hate guys between us Greeks and Turkish in this comment section. Yes the Cyprus Insident is an extremely controversial issue and it is added in long list of beef between our countries due to fact that many of the protagonists are still alive and even if they are not alive they have fathered children that know the story because their fathers fought in this incident like my grandfather fought. So let's stop arguing between ourselves because kings and generals wouldn't do their job right if they didn't cover incidents just like this. This is a historic incident that happened and due to the fact that still causes beef and argument between our countries it is very important to know the facts of both sides Greeks and Turks alike. Also do not take this as an opportunity to address the issue of Vardaska (aka Ex Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) because it is not relevant with this video and as a matter of fact because the agreement that was signed is international and according to the Greek Constitution every agreement that involves two countries can be renegotiated from the start because it is an international law that has been approved from The Hague. And it happens that I know that there has been a lawsuit against the agreement in the international court of justice in The Hague from Greeks that do not agree with the agreement and we await the result so stop arguing about things that do not involve this video end this creator's because these people are doing an outstanding job of covering history.
Stunning graphics about a modern-day tragedy which is close to my heart (I was born in Cyprus). I was missing the role of the British sovereign bases during the conflict for both sides. A friend of mine lived in one for several years in a camp provided for displaced persons.
@@31user31 We got used to haters in social media as a Turk i have a 3 Greek friends in my life we love each other theese haters in here have no matter for me i know most of the Greeks like Turkish people as most of us like Greek people :) Only a Greek can understand Turkish culture and same goes for them
That was them when the turkish technology company ASELSAN was founded. The thrksih forces used American walkie talkies but it didn't worked. So the Turkish army forces were handicapd to communicante. Who knows how the borderline would be nowodays....
@@Umut-zturk Greetings neighbor. I hope for peace forever, there is nothing worse than a daughter losing a father and a mother losing a son, and vice versa.
Ayşe is the daughter of Turan Güneş, Turkish Foreign Minister. Her full name is Ayşe Güneş Ayata. As far as I know she is alive and a faculty member in METU.
My father is from farmagusta , a Greek Cypriot man , Greek and Turkish Cypriots lived peacefully always before external interventions , both from Britain and turkey
Nicely done video. You neglected to mention the role of the English though, as they are the ones who divided the population in hopes that they would be too busy fighting each-other instead of uniting to get them off the island. Classic divide and conquer policy. The Cyprus independence in turn was a 1-side achievement by the Greeks, while at the same time Turkey was brought in as an adversary by the English. Like so many other places (e.g. India), the English desperately tried to hold on the power before f-ing it up and leaving.
Same story in my country (Sri Lanka) as well. The British just fomented violence between communities that lived in peace for 1000 years, and then left.
Absolutely correct. And needless to say it was the British who promoted and cultivated the Turkish minority as a counterweight to the Greek majority and its demands for enosis (union) with Greece. In an ideal world the island would have become part of Greece in keeping with the will of the overwhelming majority of its native population (not to mention historical justice if one believes in such a thing). The Turkish minority would have fared well enough within Greece (compare the lot of the Muslim minority - including Turks - in Greek Thrace and the Turks on the Dodecanese with that of the Greeks in Istanbul and the islands of Imbros and Tenedos whose numbers have been decimated. Unfortunately realpolitik would have always worked against such an outcome.
If Turks had some more hours, ALL Cyprus will be taken. Lucky Greeks.. But Greeks will not be lucky at next time, if they continue provoking today. Because Turks are developed at weapon technologies and can produce VERY advanced weapons right now.
Turks conquered the byzantine empire so the reversing circuit is the turks shoulndt be around the Mediterranean Sea. The Mediterranean Sea is not the place of origin from turks. Facts. They can "live long" in Turkmenistan or something
Bir aralar kendi savaş gemimizi vurduk diye kendimize laf ediyorduk (galiba). Yunanlarda kendi uçaklarını vurmuşlar (kimse söylemiyor ama) xD Eng: We knew that a Turkish ship sank with friendly fire in the Cyprus war. But for the first time I learned that the Greeks shot their own plane.
Aselsan'ın doğmasının sebebidir TCG Kocatepe'yi vurmamız. Şehitlerimize Allah rahmet eylesin fakat bu musibetten bir şey öğrendik ve Atatürk'ten sonra ABD'ye emanet edilen vatan savunmamız tekrar millileşmesi için kıvılcım olmuştur.
i am a Turkish guy who lives in Greece for 6 months and i can say that Greece is like my own country and we are not even that different stop fighting stop hating each other 🇹🇷🇬🇷
If your homeland were taken illegally by another country you wouldnt think that way,its easier to say things that you didn’t even had the chance to see what is actually look like
@@kapioskapios1568 I mean if you have been unjust to others at first ,then you dont have the right to talk about justice later. Cypriot Greeks were unjust to Turkish Cypriots thats what im trying to point out, i hope you understand my english this time !
You did not give full info. Okay 3000-6500 lose men only military. But Cypriot Turkish lose than more civil public.Greek soldiers tried to commit genocide against the rules of war without distinguishing between women and children.
I am french, but the Turks are right, the Greeks tormented, I think everyone should recognize the Turkish Republic. this is not an invasion but really a peace operation
@@Jovan_Jarkarane You would not have killed them. At the moment, the Turkish army is defeating even our and your combination. At the same time, Cyprus has never been Greek in its history, it is normally Turkish soil. They wouldn't even think if you didn't kill them.
@@Jovan_Jarkarane 1. we colonized, not the Byzantines, that is, the Romans. 2. Turks immigrated, it doesn't matter. 3. Because you continued to kill. He said never mind in America, don't mess with the Turks, they will send us from Europe, too.
@@Jovan_Jarkarane You must be seriously delusional if you think that Greece could have taken Turkey in a conventional war in 1974. Greece would have gotten steamrolled like they did in the past whenever they came against the Turks/Ottomans. "and hit turkey from behind when most of the Turkish forces were in Cyprus." This is so ignorant I don't even know where to begin. First of all, "most" of the Turkish forces were NOT in Cyprus lmao. You think that Turkey's standing army is 40,000? Secondly, Turkey's navy was not only dominant in the Mediterranean, but much more powerful than the Greek navy. So pray tell how Greece would even strike Turkey from "behind"? Turkey would not have invaded if not for the military coup which installed a fascist, racist, anti-Turkish leader which sought to unite Cyprus with Greece. You tell other to learn history but you speak nonsense and you're just another clueless national praising their own country while whining about others.
@@Jovan_Jarkarane That's in 1963 Bloody Christmas. EOKA made a Genocide to Turkish Cypriots. Turkish Cypriots buried alive by EOKA. Babies, Women, Kids killed by EOKA. And in 1955-1974 Greek goverment defended and supported terrorist group. What talking about u?
This video does not do a good job in describing the situation in Cyprus. There is no description of the demographics of Cyprus before the 1974 Turkish invasion. The fact that it doesn’t explain that the island had an 82% of Greek population and a Turkish minority of 15%, compliments the Turkish propaganda that the island is half Turkish. Turkish minorities were guests on this island, but did not respect our home as a guest is supposed to do. Imagine because there is a big Turkish minority in Germany, Turkey comes and occupies half of the country by the force of weapons. The Germans would never accept this.
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OMG IM TURKISH AAAAAAA
Do the seventh crusade. They called it the last great crusade
Do the East Timor Invasion by Indonesia (including Operation Seroja) anyway very excellent video, Kings & Generals.
As a Cypriot, I came to see the hate comments
10 hours ago????
If you feel useless, think of NATO in this video.
oof!
@@scudb5509 then the USA pushed sanctions against Turkey because they were so delighted about this
Well NATO is useless, and this is coming from an American.
@@TurkishRepublicanX I'm iffy about that, but yeah you're right.
Grey Wolf You are wrong. Both U.S and G.B governments wanted the turkish invation to be done
Greeks and Turks are calm ın comment sanction but others trying to start fight lol
Just trying to find an asshole
I am not calm! Ugh!
Birgilios Marmaroglou excuse me but do you aware Your surname is Turkish? ''Marmaroğlu''
Apparently you didn't read the comments below
@@editht.4832 many Greeks had to change their surnames into Turkish sounding to leave Turkey in 1922 😉 usually was changing the - idis too - oglu
My grandfather was at Turkish parachute battalion, he said one thing before he passed away last year, which was already known;
There are no victors at wars but traumatized survivors, dead bodies, and fat politicians.
He was probably in the worst of the fighting. He’s very lucky to have survived.
vural bozyurt What did I say that was disrespectful? I’m saying he was lucky to have survived, which is true.
I’m not sure if English is your first language because you don’t understand what I’m saying. In the English language what I said is perfectly respectful and a normal thing to say.
Look if you want to call me uneducated learn English first. And actually understand what I meant before you jump to incorrect conclusions. It makes you look quite uneducated.
He knew
@@vuralbozyurt8522 harbiden git ingilizce öğren xD
@@vuralbozyurt8522 adam demiş ki "O muhtemelen savaşın en kötü olduğu anlardaydı, hayatta kaldığı için çok şanslı"
A Native American proverb says, "When two fish are fighting in a river, a long-legged Englishman has just passed by."
Made up comment...no native American even said that you absolute mong 😂
maybe it was born from the war of independence
English are not soo great at all this racist apsrtheid pnky nose,, nazist
Which Americas? Which Native?
Because the USA is perfect and hasn’t hurt indigenous and native people either. Keep on with that great American education 🤏, from a Frenchman.
Ah! Britain, leaving a mess as usual.
Not very true
@@gog_magpie do you remember Ireland and what England did to the Irish people?
@@shaunibabe1 what about their citizen though
Very damn accurate true
fuck crumpets
The 3D graphics look beautiful
Maybe, but it's the boat horns that really carry the day.
It's form over function, especially at the start.
Guy who did the 3D art (terrain, animations, lighting, rendering) here - thank you! So far this is my second video for Kings & Generals (first being the "Falklands War") - I've learned a lot of about the software I'm using while working on both of these projects. The more I do them, the better the quality will get over time!
Benjin your absolutely fantastic!
@@BenjinWS We appreciate it, brother.
Ah, England…the original “he started it.”
Kashmir
F England always butting in where they aren’t wanted
They even started the civil war in Greece after ww2 because fuck it they didn't want us to be with the Communists real shitstorm my grandparent was ok at shooting germans italians but to kill your own people is fucked up
Its called pax britanica=britain rule the world
Of course its not pax at all
But one day when technology will disappear then they are in critical trouble
England could not keep its colony so it divided it.... And still today you speed through thr British base in Cyprus your fine you pay to english sovereignty........
As my grandmother used to say: "My son, in our time there were no Greeks nor Turkish in Cyprus only christians and muslims" then she would proceed to tell me a story that occured in her village, about a christian mother that had a child and was not able to produce milk for it, so she gave it to a muslim woman, that also had given birth to a child around the same time, to feed the child for her.
Normally, there should have been zero Turks on the island. It was Greek for more than 3000 years. Why did Turkey allow their population to be left defenseless, aboard, in a territory that didn't offer them much. It is like I barge into your home one day and from the next day onward, we have to share the house and I demand that I have the same rights in that house like you do. How is this normal?
@@cezarstefanseghjucan What are you talking about mate, go read some history before making comments, if you believe that Turkish speaking Cypriots are Turks then you are missing the whole point. Go read about the revolutions of 1833 where the Cypriots jointly resisted the ottoman rulers. My linage goes beyond the times of of the Greeks, Alashiya is a still standing proof of my real linage. Calling my self Greek because I speak a greek based dialect would be an insult to my ancestors.
@@stfe6265 Dude, go sell your shit somewhere else. The Alashiya never spoke Turkish. You should at least speak Greek, because Greek is attested far earlier than any form of Turkish.
@@cezarstefanseghjucan You are talking out of your arse mate, who said anything about Sumers talking Turkish? This is not a contest between Turkey or Greece on who is better, I want both of them out of my country, you have done enough already and fuck your Greek based history they indoctrinated within you at school. Greeks have sold this island too many times, believing you are a Greek is an insult to your own country.
@@stfe6265 Then why do you bear a Greek name? Do you talk Akkadian, Egyptian or something so that you qualify as Alishayia?
Many modern conflicts have roots with Britain.
But this one doesn't.
@@ehs1452 didn't you heard the starting from1878 to 1960 Cyprus was under British rule and war broke out after British left.
@@virajxyz1840 and then the turks invaded, that's why it started
@@ehs1452 yeah but the root were British. It was just like arab-israel,India-Pakistan all over again. BTW turk did offer peace if it was not for that Cypriot Greek leader. I think you need to watch video carefully again. Rather than blaming one side.
@@virajxyz1840 "blaming one side" isn't that EXACTLY what you're doing? Seriously what we're the british supposed to do? Partition India, Israel-Palestine and Ireland amongst ethnic and religious lines and conflicts happen, don't do that with the middle eat and Africa and conflicts happen. What should they have done?
Conflict create by British :
1. China and Hong Kong
2. Pakistan and india war for kashmir
3. Palestine and Israel
4. Kurdish
5. Greece and Turkey over Cyprus
@martin corderoy britain drew up borders with no regard for the people living their
@@jdb9318 thats the objective bye the way , ordo ab chaos !!
British imperialism is also responsible for the partition of Ireland, and the recent decision to leave the EU without any consideration for the people of Northern Ireland now threatens to reignite the Troubles. In this instance, the British legacy is twofold.
It was the Prince or whatever of Kashmir that decided to join India Britain didn't do anything and Hong Kong and China is a stupid argument since Britain basically stopped the Chinese imposing their communist ideals onto the people of Hong Kong.
Albania and serbia over Kosovo 🤔🤔
Ahh such a classic! “After British rule...”
Why did the Turks invade Cyprus to begin with?
@@cezarstefanseghjucan watch from 3:57 to 4:19
Jealousy is such a useless emotion 🙄🥱
@@cezarstefanseghjucan the official excuse was to save and protect the Turkish minority from the Greek right wing nationalists who were commiting attrocities against them. The true reason was to prevent the islands unification with Greece
@@vonzuchter I was stationed in Cyprus before, during and after this event. What this 'documentary' doesn't detail is the fact that the Greeks were buoyant after getting rid of Makarios and thought that unification with Greece was a done deal. Consequently they DID start committing atrocities against the Turkish people, particularly in the south of the island where they destroyed houses, restaurants and other businesses belonging to Turks. There were also incidents of Turkish civilians being shot and even being dragged behind cars by Greek civilians. All this was happening long before the Turkish reinforcements arrived.
God bless you Cengiz Topel. I can't imagine how painful your death was.
Hes rotting in hell like dentash
I just Google him, may ALLAH SWT bless his soul. He was only 30 years old.
@@christossymA3A2 By a bunch of cowards after being a part of saving Turkish Cypriots
Man is still celebrated while his killers burn
@@christossymA3A2 Can you swim?
@@christossymA3A2 tasos isaak 🐷💀😂
“BrItAIn TrYiNg tO ReStoRe PeAcE”
Everyone on this planet was in peace till britain come to the land.
Blatantly untrue
Ahem, India? Middle east? Palestine? Africa? Is those places in peace because of the British today Logan?
@@someguyand...whatever23 do you honestly believe they were at peace before the British came? History is just one empire conquering another, there is never true peace. Just look at India, before the British was there, there was the mughal empire trying to conquer the land and dozens of other small kingdoms fighting each other, do you think that is peace? If anything Britain made peace by uniting all the land and creating fair and equal laws that prevent conflict.
@@logan8638 People that project their 21st century values upon history are just too ignorant and simple minded to understand the nuances of those time periods. These naive children think that if Britain, or the United States, or [insert any superpower] had not existed, then everyone in the world would be holding hands singing kumbaya.
In reality, those superpowers were forged in a ruthless and brutal environment and if they had not become a superpower, an adversary would become the superpower and do the exact same things or worse [Nazi Germany].
@@logan8638 Dude I never said those places were at peace in the first place, the first person said it not me. Did you actually READ my sentence instead of assuming?
Those countries and pleaces were never happy in the first place but the British HAD to step in just to make it worse. Stop using British propaganda to prove your point idiot.
This comment section:
%1 Turks and Greeks fighting
%99 tHis cOmMeNt sEctiOn
@@PRAEFECTVSMAGNVSXXXIII nice bait
@@PRAEFECTVSMAGNVSXXXIII Ask the greeks in Anatolia. Oh wait, none left.
@@yaldabaoth2 nice bait
@@PRAEFECTVSMAGNVSXXXIII Ask the jews
PRAEFECTUS MAGNUS when did you lose your homeland? or how do you know? I am honestly wondering
Well now i can hope that we r going to see Iraq-iran 8 years war
*SADDAM HUSSEIN INTESTEFIES*
@JESUS CHRIST Deus vult?
@JESUS CHRIST well well jesus himself replying to me i must be a lucky Booooi
I like the idea but i think they can only show an small period, 8 years cant be shown in 20 minutes
@@arash1789 well 1 ep every month sounds cool
While Turkish and Greek Cyprus lived in peace in Cyprus for years, for some reason, after the British came to the island, they became two enemies.
Were you there during the Ottoman Empire ?
@@jordan12374 yes
That's the tradition. British strategy: divide and f/ck it up.
@@direnius stay mad
@@direnius There wasn’t no dividing in this case just one nation
%0,5 Greeks🇬🇷 and Turks🇹🇷 fighting
%99,5 England🇬🇧 Eating Popcorn🍿 & drinking tea☕ and Watching the Cyprus War
Same thing with India and Pakistan.
@@artman7780 Yes xD
Seni bireylerden hatırlıyorum... Hiç Yusuf Kayaalp izledinmi?
@@ardakaradeniz6402 İzlemek?
Kanalın bütün videolarının yorumlarını işgal eden erifim ben :)
@@Turgineer ok.(tf2 de kaç lvl sin)
Anything: *Exists*
U.K in the 19th century: Can we annex you and if we leave we will make you fight another country or you'll be the battleground.
Couldn't be more true lol, still doing it in 21th century tho
Yea, in Hong Kong.
@Robert Cawley ok you egoistic fuck we get it you're the supreme nation right?
@Robert Cawley fuck the uk
Note to add: "Aisha went on holiday" was the code used by the Turks to start the military operation.
What aisha it is not ottomans it is turkey and it was ayşe
Pro Learner salty that much? Gonna cry?
@@think9747 both name have same meaning 1 is Turkish dialect other 1 is arabic maybe he is araboc also in my native its not written like that some native languages can be different
@Random Person aisha is muslim name so in every country it has its own pronunciation like my native country is caaisho in Turkey its ayse
Mohammed Sabah uhm doesn’t change anything? Its about language here.
Not all of Kocatepe's crew sunk. Some of them were rescued by other ships. Including her captain Güven Erkaya who had been the commander of the Turkish navy in the late 1990s.
You had to admit, that was a really smart deception by the Greeks, to make fake radio calls and to convince Turkey that the ship was Greek
@@PatrasPhantom no they didn't fake radios. There was a greek convoy which really goes to cyprus to supply EOKA forces. But around of that convoy, Turkeys Battleship Kocatepe was in patrol mission. And Turkish Jets strike to Kocatepe. Kocatepe's warned Turkish Jets with radios and said that they are Turkish. But Turkish Jets thought that was fake from greeks to not to target the ship. And Turkish Jets Keep targetting to Kocatepe then they sunk the Kocatepe.
Kocatepe was part of a NATO task force weeks before this happened. Some of us American sailors met with our counterparts from the Kocatepe while in Toulon and we were invited aboard . It was sad to hear of her sinking and loss of life.
Turkey started its defense industry (in the form of radio communication electronics) because of that incident.
@@niw3 very interesting!
Holy hell you even used f-104 and f-100 which were exactly the type of aircrafts Turkish Airforce used during that time! Same with other vehicle models. The animations are literally perfect!
@@Joe-3 yeah, the imaginary places called heaven and hell are both made by god. doesn't that make them holy in someway?
Agreed. I appreciate the attention to detail this channel puts in their videos.
Wow great work, well done. My dad was in the Turkish Air Force at that time, operating one of the F-100 aircrafts for air to ground operations around Nicosia.
My family is from Cyprus, and when I visited there I had a change to meet them also. They told me that they were living in peace with the Greek people before all those political manipulations took place. They also told me the times before the Turkish operation was very hard and brutal for them. Their village was occupied by Greek army and Eoka and many slaughters took place in front of their eyes. I don't mean that we did not do anything wrong and of course it is very sad for both sides. But when I witnessed what my relatives and Turkish cypriots have faced with, I became quite sure that Turkey was right to attack. Even though I used to be suspicious about the invasion and don't like militarism at all.
PLEASE..
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" Rauf Denktash's shocking confession "..!
&
" Dervis Ali kavazoglou kendi sesinden ,,!
@@vasosglykeriou9252 Rauf Denktaş is one of the greatest politician my history has seen. He did what he did for the sake of his nation. May he rest in peace
TMT, BLACK GANG, AND 9
SEPTEMBER FRONT, WERE TURKISH-CYPRIOT PARAMILITARY ORG. RESPONSIBLE FOR TERRIBLE ATTROCITIES AGAINST GREEK -CYPRIOTS..
YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER....
@@altanata5060
the man , was a criminal in costumes !
Do you found it right , for you to try to built your community on our stolen lands and properties , just because of all those myths and fake stories they gives you ?
"Over 500 *historically accurate* tanks"
Lol, if you say so
He said, as a tank charged into another like a bull and flipped it off a cliff
I agree, more like 100 historically accurate tanks and 400 that only existed is blueprints or just completely made up.
>180 million players worldwide
>log in
>NA server avg population is about 14k and peaks at 20k during events
Maybe 500 historically accurate tanks, divided among how many players? And those are "tanks", not "kinds of tanks", so maybe they are all Type 95 Ha-Go.
Would be sweet to see how many they could get in NA, but they like to shaft us too much and just cancelled ranked last month. Not sure what their marketing strategy is when the one thing holding them down in NA is loyal players. So there goes another couple thousand.
The only thing you forgot is the USA weapon embargo on Turkey before the attack.
And the fact America and the foreign minister Henry Kissinger helped and aided the attack as well as cordinating it.
If the US did not help Turkey, turkey was fucked. US bombed Greek military sites. They left that out.
@@Kael7777 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSHAHAHAHSHAHAHAHAHAHSHAHAA you idiot HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@@Kael7777 WTF dude?! Are you serious aahahahahahahhahah
@@Kael7777 you must be having a laugh.your lucky the us threatned turkey regarding the complete take over of cyprus.the greek miltary is no match to the turkish
I'm very biased against Turkey in most cases, but this time it felt to me like they were in the right. The divide was only done after they were denied the existing diplomatic solution.
Why is Turkey seen as the "bad guy" of this war?
Edit: If you're a turk don't reply
Countries that have always pissed of the west will be seen as the ‘baddies’ by the west. So countries like Russia, Iran,...are included in this list as well.
@@seriesmovies4195 As a Turk, I agree and don't be told how he treated one of our pilots while they were demonizing us there, damn it, they hammered nails in his neck and pierced his body with a drill and nobody knows it.
why is Turkey seen as "the bad guy" you ask. Well, I guess using the same logic they re using now about Ukraine war: "Russians are the invaders, so they must be the bad guys". In both cases, an oversimplification that tells only half the truth...
Propoganda
Manipulasyon
just to name a few one..
Cyprus (Turkey-Greece conflict)
Kashmir (Pakistan-India conflict)
All thanks to the Brits..
Kashmir wasn't because of the British per-say. Kashmir was an independent kingdom before it was forcefully invaded by Pakistani leading the king to ask for Indian support. India was only going to support Kashmir militarily if it joined the Indian Union. We can blame Britain for the partition but not the Kashmir issue.
Palestine and isreal
@W M North of Ireland
British have a idea "Divide and Rule"! The use it for make colonies and rule easily. in indian subcontinent they provocation Muslim vs hindu clashes. For it they wrote false history. OTHER way all community lived peaceful in Muslim Rule. Doesn't it? frm Bangladesh 🇧🇩
@ Matzavas I mean I’m surprised you actually threw the Fault on yourself I mean As a Turk I think Armenian a Genocide happened but not in the way you think like the Ittihat ve Terakki were controlling the Ottoman Empire and I think they are the ones to blame since “the Government” did the Genocide
Greek and Turks are fighting.
War end.
Winner : England :D
Zaob Min HOLY SHIT
@@agape_99 >implying that Turkey is a sovereign power that wouldn't be immediately deletednhy coalition forces
Zaob Min we are in our island... (I don’t seem to understand what you mean)
Zaob Min oh please..... you have the 8th most powerful army in the world, and Greece isn’t even close to that. I think turkey is considered a superpower (at least nowadays). Well, indeed you are in quite a weird situation between Russia and USA which are the two most powerful nations, however this still doesn’t mean you aren’t a superpower. Plus, you also have countries like Sudan, Azerbaijan, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Albania (both in balkans), Pakistan, and believe it or not Britain on your side. They are some of turkey’s closest allies.
I apoligize to you, you seem different than others in the comments
Helal olsun. Adamlar yabancı ama ne kadar tarafsız ve doğru bilgilerle çalışma yapıyorlar. Bu kadar tutulan bi kanal olması da ordan geliyor işte.
@@srxanmansuroglu5440 bruh knk iki taraf için de kötü bişey söylemedi
Kanal sahibi Azerbaycan turküymüş galiba
@@yagizz5421 Olsa bile animatörler, tarih danışmanları ve tarih kaynakları, hiyerarşisindeki diğerleri değil. Bu video gayet taraflı resmi olarak bizde evraklı bulunan çocuk sayılacak yaştaki kızlarımıza yapılan toplu tecavüzler ve infazlar, çocuk ve bebek cinayetleri, işkenceyle katliamlar ve toplu mezarlardan neden bahsedilmedi? EOKA'nın terörist olduğundan neden bahsedilmedi?
Tatafsizmi haha
Aynen
Cyprus was leased to the British by the Ottoman Empire for 50 years in exchange for money! They invaded and gave it to the Greeks. Stop telling the lie that the Turks are occupied!
Cyprus is a Greek civilization thousands of years back, from the first civilizations of ancient Greece. Don't ignore it. At some point, Turks also entered. I wish that there will be a solution and that the Turkish politicians will stop asking for new conquests and spreading hatred so that the two peoples can live in peace. Erdogan is very much to blame for this.
Cyprus was occupied, brother, because the Ottomans had rented the island to the British. Yes, the administration was left to the British. But actually Cyprus was Ottoman territory. When the Turks formed an alliance against the British in the First World War, the British completely annexed the island. Later, until the Republic of Turkey became the guarantor state. Türkiye and the Turks on the island did not have a say in the region.
@@AgeofDoom wtf is that logic by your logic everyone should go back to their original places. We talk about law and agreements between nations.
Great video but in my opinion you should have written unit names/numbers on the map next to or below the soldier figures representing them. Listening to unit names/numbers can be confusing when you list them verbally like you did ^^
It would be pretty cluttered...
It's even worse trying to listen when you get bomb and foghorn sounds all over the place.
It is not a bad idea but not for this video because it is condensed. If it were a longer video he could have put the unit names under the numerous units, one at a time, alone, showing their locations. Not in this video. It would have looked chaotic.
@@TomYawns My comment is nothing more than some constructive criticism from a purely consumer perspective that in no way violates UA-cam's or this channel's commenting policy. If you were, for any reason whatsoever, offended by it I suggest you quickly head off to the nearest safe space where your anxiety can cool off. Much love xxx
Ayshe is so happy
Ayşe kim dpxjğdkf
@@kadirterece334 operasyonun adı " ayşe tatile çıksın"
@@yasinerdogan1758 Nasıl bir operasyon
@@kadirterece334 güzel kanka güneşli felan
Who is that?
No one is foolish enough to prefer war from peace. In peace, sons bury their fathers. In war, fathers bury their sons.
Herodotus, 480-420 BC, Ancient Greek historian
Lame
@@richardhammonds8057 like your whole life
States are created by war, none of the powerful States of our time would exist without it.
I don't say it's a good thing but it's a fact and if you live in a powerful and rich State, chances are that you are able to enjoy your way of life thanks to wars won by your country in the past decades or centuries. There are always a few exceptions of course like in the case of city-States, but it is true for the majority of modern States.
What about fathers burry there sons in relative "peace". Herodotus didn't saw the english coming..
War father of all things, Heraclitus
Turks and Greeks are having argument in "English"
so tell me who won the real war?
We speak English because Americans won ww2 not British
@UNIVERSAL SPACE EXPEDITIONER Last time Greeks claimed that they own the island was 1974 and they ended up losing the half of the island. It's goddamned 2019 now. Do you want us to take the other half too? Lol.
UK still has several military bases on the island which many want rid of, but with a split and weak government I don’t see those bases being left any time soon. The bases in question provide secure Sigint and air bases to the Med and Middle East.
Unfortunately we still have those like our “Cyprus is Greek” chap spouting rubbish that doesn’t make sense which is underlined after watching this video. Whilst there are still people of the same mindset in the south of the island there will never be peace there, no matter how hard people like Kofi Annan try to persuade them to vote for peace.
Meanwhile the British forces remain in their bases on the island. Guarantors if ‘Peace’....
@UNIVERSAL SPACE EXPEDITIONER Cyprus never will be Greek be sure..
What is strange about it! Turks do not speak Greek, Greeks cannot speak good enough Turkish to discuss such a complicated issue.
Who won the War??? This video is all about it. Turks finally stoped the war siplited the island into two separate part and given half of the ısland to Greeks (Rum= Roman Christians of Ottoman empire).
The 3d models would be better if they showed numbers and types of troops.
Guy who did the 3D stuff here - thanks for the crit, I'll try and see if I can somehow implement that kind of info on the units themselves in future vids (e.g. on the flag for vehicles, on the pedestal for infantry).
@@BenjinWS good job brother. I would also like to see that
@@BenjinWS well done man
@@BenjinWS good job
@@BenjinWS Great work!
Ayşe is going on a vacation.
apple's lover it was the code for Cyprus Peace Operation. Ayşe tatile çıksın, in Turkish it means Ayşe go on vacation
It was an invasion
Petros Andrianidis so when Greek terrorrist organisation Eoka (im not saying greeks are terrorrist) was killing turkish people living in cyprus, it wasnt anything but when turkish people wanted to protect their people (there were documents prooving us right) it was an invasion?
@@arcaipekyun4232 EOKA was not a terrorist group it was about liberating Cyprus from the Brits. If it wasn't for them then Cyprus would not have its independence in 1960. When Cyprus became free (because of EOKA) Turkish speaking people in Cyprus received the same rights as all the rest.
Name me 1 turk who fought to free Cyprus and pursue independence fron great Britain
The names of the both operations are really cool.
Aphrodite; you most probably know, the Goddess of Beauty, was believed to be born out of the waves of coasts in Cyprus. Atilla on the other hand was the man, as everybody knows, who brought Romans to their knees. Considering Greeks are often considered as the descendants of the Eastern Romans, very cool analogies on both sides.
absolutely everbody knows as attila the scourge of god xd specially europeans
@@trafkgaming7604 yea, thats why i said as "everybody knows" dude
Also whole operation was dubbed
"Ayşe goes to holiday" which is hilarious as heck
everybody is know attila (hungary) and turks are turkic
@@tredarc hungarians are from kipchak descent which is a turkic tribe adapted to christianity check your facts mate
I'm Turkish Cypriot... and I advocate peace in Cyprus and both sides living under one country!
Çünkü sen ab vatandaşı olup gurursuz yaşamak için herseyini satarsın. Sizin için canlarıni veren dedelerimize yazık. Ayrıca bu sene selanikteydim. Tesadufen kiliseye geziye gittim. Anma toreni yapılıyordu. Emin ol rumlar, yunanlar bir türkle beraber yaşamak istemiyor. Adamlar bizim, sizin kanlarımızı içse doymazlar. Gtünü kaldır, çalış kendini geliştir.
Kıbrısta barış olamaz kardeşim çünkü ne rumlar ne de yunanlılar sizin varlığınızı kabul etmiyorlar. Tıpkı 1960 lardaki gibi
I predict a sensible comment section.....
We will fight for peace together. :-)
What could go wrong?
Cyperus looks like a kidney that got a thorn in it....
@@KingsandGenerals "fight" and "peace" in the same sentence...
@@notadoc9697 That is the joke
Congratulations mate! Your video was so successful it made it to Cypriot local television and was praised for its creativity and accuracy! I’m glad you’re finally gaining the acknowledgement you deserve!
That;s such a servile attitude... The Video is well made yes... but it distorts and skips CRUCIAL points... which falsify the impression that a non-expert would get by watching it...
After watching it... what would you say is the proper and just way to resolve the Cyprus problem?
@@yannitzili8961 Kill em all let God sort em out
@@yannitzili8961 My friend do really expect to get a response that would give a fair and just solution to a problem that has troubled so many people over the last 50 years in a UA-cam comment section? It wouldn't matter even if this video were 5 hours long and full of all the intricate details, it was a very complicated situation and still is.
@@yannitzili8961 Yes it is. Cyprus is Greece. TRC is Turkey. Done. No more war.
@@xolwraak7348 there is no TRC. There is only the Republic of Cyprus. The occupied part of Cyprus never belonged and it will never belong to Mongolian Turks. Even with all the Anatolian uncivilized settlers that Mongolian Turkey brought in still the Turkish population of North Cyprus is less than 1/3 of the pre-1974 Greek population of North Cyprus... It's quite funny that Erdogan pretends to support the Palestinians against their occupiers the Israelis and help them get rid of the Israeli Apartheid... But in Cyprus Turkey did the same as Israel did against the Palestinians! Both occupiers will be sent back to where they belong... the Mongolian Turks back to Central Asia to find their brothers the Uyghurs and the Israelis (who are neither Jewish nor Semites) back to Europe to find their European Polish and German brothers.
Thank you for making a neutral look for this war.
adanın tamamını alaydık baya iyi olurdu .d
@@DRINKREDBULL0 :))))
You can still realize turkey just keeps wanting all the Gass and oil the only reason they start war
TheoLOLxD for gas and petrol ? Lol youre funny. Our people live there. Because of this
@@yigithanozturk7556 first of all I am talking about kastelorizo and the other half of Cyprus idk what you are talking about cause you always try to pass the borders with no permission and randomly targeting islands with the excuse "they are close to us" when in reality that doesnt matter
Welk done Turkey for protecting the innocent.
😊😊😊😊
Hayret bir filistinli türkleri savunuyor
Evrybody : Fine and fair agreement proposal let's agree
Britain: refused
@@HerewardWake So u think creating equal rights between majority and minority is impossible... Why do i smell nazis?
@@HerewardWake equal deal? People were killing eachother and the president was put down. Minority Turks were getting killed by EOKA. What was Turkey supposed to do? At least it was not like America giving "freedom and democracy" or Russia invading Ukraine or Georgia.
@@HerewardWake finally someone reasonable who doesn't follow the Britain bad circle jerk.
@@williamdavis9562 eoka wasn't supported by everyone you know?
@TK google "what about youism".
Peace and love for the entire population, both Turkish and Greek Cypriots....
Ziad Khalousi I agree, as a Greek Cypriot I think we should live in peace ❤️
@@soophie2060 muslims and christian toghether
Thank god I'm a atheist
@@RyanJones-ew8vm why are you calling your self dumb
@@RyanJones-ew8vm lol
Turks and Greeks can never fight again. Winners will be others.
Fucking england
Everytime, England win every war.
TRNC is just a trophy for Turkey.
so true brother! I enjoy watching Greece from Turkey!
@hunter soon Turkey is not seeking relations with Greeks. They do not want the unification of the island, because TRNC is their place for illegal betting and money laundering.
May I recommend to next do a multi-part series on the Spanish Civil War (1936-39) ?
The most equally sided civil war in history, and the most intense one as well in my opionion, even more than the russian or american.
@@axelmarin1041 Equally sided?
Who would win?
A highly trained military force with decades of experience in open and counter insurgency warfare who received open active military support from 2 of the most militaristic powers of the time.
Or
Some peasant bois with rusty rifles?
The answer will shock you.
Does "peasants" held the industrial part of the country, had their own militias which had more than "rusty rifles", were supported by almost all the navy and air force (they could have blocked the african troops in Morocco but were incompetent), integrated thousands of international volunters to their army ranks (some of them veterans from WWI), were supported massively by the Soviet Union, Mexico, etc.
Saying both sides werent equally matched is at best debatable.
@@bluehelmi1672 The issue is that the Spanish Air Force in 1936 consisted of about 13 biplanes of varying levels of outdatedness.
Hence why the German air lift succeeded. The industry held by the Republic in 1936 is not suited to production of arms, and the Republic relied heavily on an overcharging international market, indeed this is what spells the death of the republic throughtout the war. See Howson's book Arms for Spain for more detail, but arms dealers would often charge upwards of 200% market price for very outdated rifles. (The 1st British volunteers in Spain went into action at Lopera armed with m1888 Manlicher rifles without the necessary en bloc clips meaning they were effectivley single shot weapons.)
After this, the Republic's reliance on militias in mid 1936 meant that resistance to the Army of Africa was wholy ineffective as militias wouldn't fight outside their home provinces or even their villages. They were steamrolled in open country due to lack of experience in this kind of warfare and the nationalists were able to sweep up the nation, connect their disparate territory. By the time of the International Brigades arrving en masse in November 1936 the Nationalists already had Madrid under siege, prevented the Catalans from taking Zaragoza, and taken Irun cutting the Basque region off from any possible French aid (which would realistically never arrive anyway given Franc'es political situation)
@@bluehelmi1672 The issue is that the Spanish Air Force in 1936 consisted of about 13 biplanes of varying levels of outdatedness.
Hence why the German air lift succeeded. The industry held by the Republic in 1936 is not suited to production of arms, and the Republic relied heavily on an overcharging international market, indeed this is what spells the death of the republic throughtout the war. See Howson's book Arms for Spain for more detail, but arms dealers would often charge upwards of 200% market price for very outdated rifles. (The 1st British volunteers in Spain went into action at Lopera armed with m1888 Manlicher rifles without the necessary en bloc clips meaning they were effectivley single shot weapons.)
After this, the Republic's reliance on militias in mid 1936 meant that resistance to the Army of Africa was wholy ineffective as militias wouldn't fight outside their home provinces or even their villages. They were steamrolled in open country due to lack of experience in this kind of warfare and the nationalists were able to sweep up the nation, connect their disparate territory. By the time of the International Brigades arrving en masse in November 1936 the Nationalists already had Madrid under siege, prevented the Catalans from taking Zaragoza, and taken Irun cutting the Basque region off from any possible French aid (which would realistically never arrive anyway given France's political situation)
Soviet Support came (as all Soviet support did) at the end of massive expenditure and the effective morgaging of Spain's entire gold reserve.
So by the end of 1936 we have a relatively inefficent industry, supported by an indifferent ally, and an ally across the ocean, unable to help due to Nationalist dominance of the sea (thanks to the sailor's committees being very coy in the running of their ships and the admirals desrting to the nationalists) whose military, frankly, isn't and is only effective in urban warfare.
vs a highly trained army, with a strong political grip on their zone of control, backed by two allies who were in it up to the hilt in exchange for economic concessions. (the Soviets never sent anymore than advisors the CTV numbered 70,000 by war's end)
So yeah it is an unbalanced fight. Not unwinnable given some more favourable circumstances for the Republic or more overt Soviet support, or the involvement of France and Britain. (or even just France) But these things were unlikely for a myriad of reasons.
" Greek and Turkish communities had different plans for the island. And the *BRITISH* had to find a solution to keep both sides content " Hmmmmmmmm
Lol "what can go wrong ?" :D
Keeping all sides content is British speciality.
They kind of succeeded since neither all Greeks nor all Turks were removed from Cyprus.
@@subutaynoyan5372NOT!
God bless the Turkish army. The great Turkish army stopped the fascist and great Greek dreamers who murdered thousands of innocent Turkish Cypriots.🙏🏻🙏🏻
peace from Turkey 🇹🇷🇬🇷
Inshallah , doxsa ton theo
@KONSTANTIN XXX well actually, during the Ottoman Empire and early days of the republic before the population exchange, Greeks and Turks lived a friendly life. In fact, over time Turkic people who came to Anatolia mixed so much with the Greek (as well as middle easterners, native Anatolians, Caucasians, and other Europeans) that genetically and culturally the two nations are similar in many ways. Conflict aroused with the manipulation of big states who benefited from conflict, there's no reason for the two nations to be enemies
@KONSTANTIN XXX 1453 is just a date when Constantinople changed administration. 1913 well is just a regular year i guess. Greeks and Turks lived together wat before 1453 and way after 1913. Two tiny nations hating each other and throwing tiny military tantrums is nothing good for both parties.
Fuck you and fuck turkey
💩🇹🇷💩💩
hashem shibani agreed
Love from Indonesia 🇮🇩 to Turkey 🇹🇷 and Greece 🇬🇷. No more war, only peace.
@MERKİT SAVAŞÇISI Vay Allah'ın Manyağı
I HATE GREEEEEEEK HATE DİE GREEEK
@Random Person No, mongols aren't greek.
Peace is boring war is fun
MERKİT SAVAŞÇISI bende
I couldn't believe it when I read Turkish history. 1000s of absolute battle wins. The best war industry, education, teaching, scientist, artist, writer shaped the world in time.
Tarihten Türk'ü çıkarırsan tarih diye bir şey kalmaz😂
You read a propaganda piece not history
Peace at home peace at world...
M.Kemal ♥️
Master qui gon
Shut up at home, shut up ay world.
@@hakan5037 pls speak england
@@vapingcat5406 Mustafa Kemal (Turkey's first prisident) said "peace at home peace at world" but now thats means "shut up at home, shut up at wolrd”.
Kashmir, Korea, Cyprus
Three frozen conflicts
Three disasters
all proving that the UN has failed miserably. In fact, the UN has failed more than the Leauge of Nations.
Korea wasn't a disaster though, the UN achieved its main goal of preventing the communist forces from overtaking South Korea. It was a stalemate really.
When u think about it, the Turkish invasion of Cyprus was inevitable. It’s a late extension of the Turkish conquest and the extinguishing of Greek culture in the Mediterranean. It’s actually surprising that Turkey waited so long to use military against Cyprus.
UN is useless. In Korea it was US Army that stopped the Chinese invasion
@@单向度人 WW3 or not, europe was left divided for decades, and the world was riddled with regional conflicts and violence, and it still is. The UN was supposed to prevent further conflicts, but after WW2, it was only used as a tool for the major world powers to fulfill their personnal goals, mostly through escalation and war.
@@Thormil576 It was also a result of bad policy making. The dictator in Greece sought to unite with cyprus to bolster his legitimacy due to poor handling of internal affairs, while president Makarios was sympathetic to the Soviets, to say the least, and refused to cooperate with the US and Britain. Note the Russian T-34 tanks used by the Greek Cypriots. It was a cituation that Turkey could easily exploit.
Turkey and Greece should never fight again. Do not ever forget that culture, art and courtesy create strong bonds, not the politicians. 🇹🇷 🇬🇷
@@Mixer2904 The Turks will never give up to get the rest of Greece, Thessaloniki is Turkish, athen is Turkish.
@@zetenhap975 😂😂ABI🇦🇱❤🇹🇷💪
@@clydealbania9457 Kosova is Albania 😄😄
@@zetenhap975 ok learn first to write in English and we can talk
@@Mixer2904 are you serious mate ?
Turkish Cypriots have always accepted that the Greeks are part of the island. But the Greeks did not accept that the Turks were part of the island. There is a reason why the Greeks killed the Turks. And what reason do the Turks have?
Of course, not every Greek thought this way, but this is the idea of the organization called Eoka.
These documentaries are concise, informative, well illustrated and narrated. Great work.
Watching this while on holiday in Cyprus gives it a whole different dimension.
Wow it’s mind boggling how much information there is available about an event that happened long ago , love you videos
not that long ago acturally
We still have reliable and documented into about so many older wars like early muslim conquests,many crusades,napoleonic wars etc etc j
This would be an amazing ARMA setting.
Never happening sadly, also I'd prefer a non-Medi setting, Altis is kinda boring
Altis as a map is pretty nostalgic to me because I used to live in Cyprus as a kid.
Would you want to have 20 tanks vs 300 tanks?
The Shermanator Heyy, hi sherm
Or the adriatic, like Croatia or so
Having lived for some years in Greece let me offer you some extra historical information about this period.
The millitary junta running Greece was very unpopular and a year prior they had attacked young students in Athens protesting against their regime the 1973 anti-junta rally in the university of Athens had several dead and wounded. Makarios on the other hand refused to be the puppet of the curnals running the junta so the Enosis was a pretext to overthrow him and have a loyal guy there.
So the whole thing pretty much started because the military coup in Greece was on it's last legs and tried desperately to survive
The sad part i experienced being in both Greece and Turkey was that the average people never were pro-war, but they still allow goverments and great powers to play them like dolls. Greece always was influenced by UK and USA and Turkey by USA and lately Russia. Grow up and realise that the days of Byzantium and Ottoman are behind us and try live a normal life the superpowers of the world are no longer Turkey and Greece.
As a Greek I can say that (nowadays) we don't want to expand.we just want to keep our territory and protect our islands from the Turks
as a Greek I couldn't agree more. Sad thing being under a regime that is hateful towards anyone but themselves. History tells us that when a regime is on the brink of collapse they always start a war. And that's what happened with Cyprus
Only resolution with the islands would be a joint alowence for both populations imho. There should be a non militarized zone and a no fly zone for military aircrafts to prevent future clashes at it happens frequently. Turkish air force is an agressor on that demand while greek air force also makes agressive flights time to time.
The real problem is the governments, while greeks are mild the Turkish government today is shifting towards nationalism and islamism day by day. Which is the opposite of 1974.
The real red line with the islands is the territorial waters, there has to be a joint economical zone for that which needs to be accapted by both nations, only non stop passage allowed for military and a free movement for the individuals and other vessels.
All of this might prevent the problems about who has the land and water. It can be, should be and will be resolved like this eventually. It has to be since greeks and Turks who lives in the coasts are not very different. Their lifestyles and cultures are pretty much identical. They just need a common ground guarenteed by their own governments to be happy and to stay out of all this nationalist bullshits.
as a turkish i want to underline about "importance of education". Basically both sides are poor countries and they have no vision for future. Both sides only proud from past, not even TODAY. I wish for peaceful aegea, love from izmir.
@@rysore couldn't have sait it any better
Get ready for "this comment section is ....", "this comment section is about to be ...." and "here before Turkish/Greek nationalists" comments because they will be more than anything else.
That's because the default is to see "top comments". Most of the comments up-voted will be "Damn, this comment section is whack!"
I hate how they act like they have some moral highground saying that stuff
A few years ago any video dealing with Trukey/Greece there would be pandemonium in the comments section. I wonder what has changed since then.
austin konrad 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Get ready for the comment that will tell you to get ready for the comment that will tell you to get ready for the comment ...
EOKA was an guerrilla organization formed at 1955 that fought a campaign for the end of British rule over Cyprus. EOKA B was formed on 1971 and had a way more nationalist goals in mind. It was in fact considered a terrorist organization by RC.
Thanks to eoka for killing Turks because if they didnt kill our people today coundt be Turkish Cyprus
@@hwhshhsjsjahzjsnns6719 EOKA B did that. Two completely different organizations. And trust me many Greeks think "than god for EOKA B that way we got rid of our junta". EOKA fought for the independence of cyprus 10 to 20 years before 74.
@@mp44christos Interesting,so i'd assume Bloody Christmas the event that took place in 1963 was also EOKA B's work who was formed on 1971 ?
@@wanshitong7877 different set of events. no its was not eoka A or B it was an intercomulal violence instigated by both sides.
@@mp44christos "instigated by both sides." yeah sure buddy here are some fact that states otherwise:
-"The spark that ignited the explosion of violence happened at 02:30hrs on the 21st December when Greek Cypriot 'special constables' shot dead two Turkish Cypriots who refused to show their identity cards."
-"After the shooting,crowds of turkish cypriots gathered in the northern part of Nicosia,often led by the Turkish Resistance Organisation(TMT).On 22 December,the funerals of the victims were held without incident.However,shooting broke out on the evening of December 22.Cars full of armed Greek Cypriots roamed through the streets of Nicosia and fired indiscriminately and Turkish Cypriots fired at patrolling cars."
-Robert Stephens in 'Cyprus - A place of Arms' describes the fighting as follows;
"Greek Cypriot security forces, police and armed irregulars, mostly ex-EOKA, launched a massive counter-attack on the Turkish Cypriot positions in Nicosia."
and this is the exact reason Turkey invaded the island in 1974 to prevent same shit happening again.
I'm not saying turks were all innocent in this scenario because both communities has produced its own melodramatic accounts of the December 1963 fighting but i think it is quite easy to see the discrimination and the violence,hatred against turkish cypriots by both the goverment and the majority of the people(greek cypriots).
I was there as an 8 year old child in Famagusta. They were terrible times in a beautiful island I still consider home. I hope that one day, we can all return and live in peace
ΤHANK YOU
Who is we? You don't belong in Cyprus, unless your parents are native Cypriots
greeks don´t belong to any isle near turkey..still they call it Greece territory. Paint Greece flags to small isles which belongs to turkey.@@akritasdigenis4831
There is peace already. Just because the island is divided it doesnt mean that there is no peace currently.
Fun fact: The flag of "Cyprus" - the greek controlled part of Cyprus, was designed and made by a turkish cypriot, when Cyprus still was unified as one state.
It isnt "greek" controlled its the Republic of Cyprus, but yes you're right.
That only underlines the hypocrisy of turkish regime which is illegally occupying the north part of the island till today
@@outatisater7943 you shouldnt have genocided the turks ony the island then we wouldnt have to invade
@@outatisater7943 Cyprus before the invasion would never have worked. I think its better this way. A Turkish part, and a Greek part. Unification will only cause more and more problems
@@kemalsurmeli7722
Turkey has no history but only a criminal record
I graduaded from TRNC (Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus) university which is EMU. My department was "international relations and political science". I took Cyprus issue as a course and I also read Greek and Greek Cypriots claim. Before the watching video, I assume this video also biased. I was prepare for writing historical facts etc. However, I watched video and I have to say thank you becuase of neutral video. It is really important for peace and science. In political channels, they are trying to tell biased stories but if you aim to publish "historical facts", that means you have to follow history. History is a science. You made it. This video also another proof of this channel has a correct way. I specially thanks to you.
Also I personelly don't have any enemy feeling to Greeks. I believe Atatürk words which is "peace at home, peace in the world". For that reason, historical facts will be ground of a peace. In that direction, following turth and being biased really important. You gain my respect one more time. Thank you.
No personal feelings either. But we have to know the history of the nations. We Greeks have a lot shit going on inside ours (from our war for independence, etc), but Kemal was no saint either. Yes, he reformed Turkey to a more "western" society, but he was by no means a "peacekeeper". The genocides commited against Armenians and Greeks inside Turkey have to show for it...
@@GalaxyTracker Armenian genocide claim is a political issue these days. experts and courts should be addres but countries pass a law from their parliaments. This is just political move. You also claim about Greek genocides, on the other hands; we are claiming Turkish genocides and massacre made by Greeks in Ege region of Turkey (before independence war) and also in Cyprus. Both side have evidence according to themself. When I check Greece Foreign Ministery and Southern Cyprus Administration webpage, I saw they are including just "intervention". However what happened before? What and why Makaryos wanted to change? Why Greek Cypriots tried to change 10 articles etc? I couldn't find. There are too much examples from both side. UA-cam is not a solution for that. Expert should discuss. Some historians changed their mind after they visited to Ottoman archives. For that reason all archives should be open to historians and experts (Turkish and Ottoman archives are open). Please read Admiral Bristol report. these are not our job. Experts should discuss is these claims and international criminal courts should give a decisions without political moves.
@@EmreCetinizleti First of all, Armenian genocide is not just a political issue. There are thousands of evidence and it is a historical fact. What made it a political matter is the denial of Turkey to aknowledge it and the pressure on other countries to do so. Because, let's face it, the political agenda defines what is "officialy accepted". Secondly, when I talked about Greek genocide, I was referring to the Pontic genocide which too is not aknowledged. Did you read my comment? I already said that we Greeks have many shit in our history., but I aknowledge them, I don't hide behind my finger. My point was that Kemal was NOT a pacifist as you meant in your comment by stating his words. Yes, he was a reformer of Turkey and a great leader for his country, but how did he do it? Both by socioeconomical reforms and by the blade against the other populations living in Turkey. We have to know our history in order to not repeat past mistakes.
@@GalaxyTracker Turkey accept events of 1915 and you can find an article on foreign ministery (title : "Controversy between Turkey and Armenia about the Events of 1915"). They were Ottoman Empire citizens. When you read Turkish claims, you will see our view. Problem is that, international society try to accept 1915 events as a Nazi genocide. These are totally different as a international law. There is no orders such as Nazi orders. You can find omission about "protection of Armenians" but we were in war and there wasn't enough manpower. When you consider, these days accepted as a collapse of Ottoman; evidence and orders could be evaluated. But if Nazi genocide is accepted as a genocide, 1915 events were different in this frame. In Turkish view, we accepted these political moves as a result of Turkish and İslamic hate from Europe. Europe is not interesting to research Sétif and Guelma were genocide made by French or not... In this context, we don't trust international society. If we speak as a international law, I have to say again; I don't agree 1915 event was a genocide but let assume it is; according to international law, law can not applied before. Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide resulted was 1948. If we have to speak as a "technically", Nazi's are not accused from "genocide". I couldn't remember because 5-6 years ago I analyze Nuremberg and Tokyo courts and there wasn't "genocide" beucase of the reason I point above. They were responsible of "crime against humanity" for example. However, later Germany accept to genocide. If they didn't, still you can't accuse them. Genocide describe and punishment accepted at 1948. For that reason, international society and Armenian lobbies are pushing for politically. If we speak unbiased and according to basics of international law, while Turkey reject; they don't do anything if there is genocide but still I'm saying, there wasn't genocide, there wasn't tension. It says (article 2) " acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such...". When you think "people are death, there is genocide" no you it is wrong. You have to show that, there is intent to destroy and other conditions. For that reason, "technically" 1915 event is not similar to Nazi genocide. You can find orders and documents about "intent to destroy Jewish people". There are ongoing debate and technical differences. As a result, there should be objective and expert opinions and decisions. Political pressure is just giving power to Erdoğan that is all. He is saying "Europe is jelaous to us", "we create strong Turkey and they don't want".. While it is going on, law and democracy is getting worst in Turkey. Political pressure is just a tool used by ruling government as a gaining power. Turkey will not accept genocide claim. We are already accept whay happened 1915, which is people death. From now, we have to focus to develop friendship (as a citizen). Who nows, one day we may drink rakı and uzo in Agean sea together (: Have a nice day.
@@EmreCetinizleti I would like the latter part of your answer (to drink raki together). I myself live in an area with many Muslim and Turkish people, being friends with them.
To return to the answer though, let's accept what you say about the term "genocide". Do you realize what happens here? I am talking about historical facts, call it genocide, war crimes, whatever you want, which is the extermination of a population and you are talking about the little words which is exactly what Turkish politicians are trying to argue about, not the bigger picture. And this is not just for the courts. To the people it is being known such as "we don't accept the genocide, nothing happened there". Even though SOMETHING happened indeed. And still you didn't mention my primary point which was that Kemal was not a pacifist based on the population he killed and drove out of Turkey.
And I will say just that, because I was reading some material about the Greco-Turkish disputes. I see that it is a continuus policy of Turkey to play with words. One example is the 12 nautical mile dispute where Turkey threatens Greece with war over Greece's right to expand its territorial waters to 12-mile according to the International Law of the Sea. A law which Turkey has not signed, BUT it has followed by using the 12 miles in the Black Sea and Mediteranean. So, why does Greece not have the right to do it? If you read how our disputes have been resolved through the years you will see it is a constant policy of Turkey to follow the international laws only when they see fit, and when they don't, they try to push the decisions by millitary might (1995 resolution about the casus belli if Greece expanded to 12-miles, etc). If you were an outsider, not a Greek, not a Turkish, how would this seem to you?
Isn't it strange that the international community recognizes the Republic of Northern Ireland as a part of the UK but not the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. The EU states that there should not be a divided island in the EU thus it will not recognize the TRNC, but they make an exception for Northern Ireland. European double standard at its finest! Taksim yaşasın!!!
Scotland ireland wales many countries are under the occupation of the genocidal British
Wait a minute ..!
At first , we all know that the north part of the island, is occupied by Turkey since 1974.
The majority of all those are still our stolen lands and properties.!
What is it ..?
is it in your nature , to ..steal .!
To be thief's..!
@@andrigeogiou8420 Are your stolen lands? Can you explain how the island has been Turkish soil since the Ottomans conquered the island?
@ipsiz1929
OTTOMANiac dreamers !
That is of what you all are .!
What is it , ...
Is those tales, you all learning during your army service ?
The island of Cyprus, have Greek history , Greeks , we are here since after the Trojan war !
About 3500 years ago ..!
Ottomans , we're a unity of Asian kins , a large amount of army's, ..with the only desire to conquer and steal .
Ottomans , take all the Arab world , till outside Austria .
IS even Israel , your lands ?
is that of what you think
im Turkish Cypriot and all I want is peace.
I mean two of my best friends are greek Cypriot.
I like your name it's Kurdish. My best friend is turkish Cypriot too
Watch as our governments throw us into war and tell to kill our best friends .. its sad
@@icedcaramelcream9486 true
I have Turkish Cypriot friends as well. No logical and healthy person likes how Cyprus is. The majority of cyprus in total want peace and unification.
A unified Cyprus would also make the relations between Greece and Turkey better
The British and Greeks are responsible for this situation. This was Turkey's only solution against the Greeks who committed genocide against the Turks, and this was a legitimate right.
So the solution to what you call '' genocide" was the illegal occupation and massacre of the Greeks in northern Cyprus?
Nice of you to act like a victim when you genocided every ethnic group in minor asia
@@Spyros5k This has nothing to do with Cyprus. This makes you a racist to call a nation to be wrong in all circumstances even on the ones that documented history proves otherwise. Nazis also genocided Jews yet today, only after 75 years, Germans as a nation do not be accused of fake accusations. It is up to Greek and Armenian racism against Turks as a nation not Turks as a political era. Not Turks who are not hateful against Greeks and Armenians today but Greeks and Armenians should grow up, digest the bloody history, move on for the future. Otherwise in each step you will try to harm Turks, you will win sometimes you will lose sometimes. And it won't let to any good outcome for neither nation. Greeks came to earthquake relief, both nations mourn for the wildfires. Grow up, be a responsible humanbeing, we share the climate, the sea, the land. Act like a responsible neighbour. Nobody likes to live next to a hateful, angry man. You behave, Turks behave. Hope you understand I don't hate you or your nation, actually I am sympathic towards Greeks more than any other nation as a Turk myself.
i am turk, Let the Greeks be our friends.
At least, one reasonably comment
Totally agreed, im a greekcypriot
Yea man my best friend is a turk here in germany we are brothers
@@harryvids9787 you are always welcome ..
@@cenkersumer6071 i went 2 times in northern cyprus,now im jealous because you guys have fried ice cream xD
3:50 you state that the Greek Cypriots were not happy with the privileges given to the Turkish Cypriots. The word ‘priveles’ is incorrect. The word is ‘rights’ . Privilege would denote preferential treatment, which was not the case.
I am so going to enjoy this! Man i've been a fan of this channel for a long time. Watched all the videos and i was hoping for a Cyprus video. Greetings from Cyprus!!!
i was there in all of that conflict as a un soldier we rescued many people when the port of limassol fell to the greek cypriot forces. many women and children were imprisoned in a football stadium, and at great risk to our selves a few of us negotiated with the greek cypriots who were pretty high and gun happy after their victory there but we got many civilians out, we also managed to convoy many mixed nationals from areas under direct fire to safety;at various times, delicate times,
@@williamdavis9562 He never mentioned the burning of entire villages or slaughtering of inhabitants, and the corralling of civilians into football stadiums was as he said for 'imprisonment' not extermination. Why engage a force militarily when it can be achieved diplomatically.
@@williamdavis9562 Atrocities against Greek-Cypriots and Turkish-Cypriots did occur, but what I meant is that in the situation David Gaston mentioned, there were no instances of the violence you are implying and he proves in his encounter that diplomacy is just as effective as force in those occurrences.
@Roygbiv 1) There we no instances of violence in the situation described by David Gaston, maybe you should read my comment again. 2) Ethnic cleansing and genocide are the same thing, both are mass murders based on ethnic prejudice. 3) Last I recall I wasn't even born anytime near the War in Cyprus so I am pretty sure I didn't try to commit an ethnic cleansing. 4) And lastly, the ethnic killings were mutual, the argument that it was 'self-defence' is a commonly used arguments by Turks, especially in the case of the Armenian genocide. So are you telling me that the massacres at Asha, Prastio, Eptakomi and Angolemi, where Turkish Cypriot militia men and Turkish soldiers tied up civilians (including women and children), shot them and dumped their bodies in mass graves were in self defence. If you want any of the links to the evidence of these massacres, the European Parliament has quite a few, so just dm me.
@Roygbiv Once again whats with all the 'you'. No I did not start the war in Cyprus, no I am not at fault and no, I wasn't trying to put an end to Turkish existence anywhere lmao. Lets look at the facts here, seeing as I've already proven you wrong I may as well continue to do so. Ethnic killings between the two sides did happen before war broke out but on a relatively minor scale. EOKA led a coup which removed the Government and took over, Turkey then invaded, war then broke out. Arguments for who started would therefore bounce between different sides, Turks arguing Greeks and vice versa. Escalation of the war was caused by Turkey however, seeing as after the first invasion, EOKA fell and the old Government came back in and therefore wanted peace again, but Turkey pressed on and invaded which led to thousands more dying and severe escalation. So Turkey would be the right person to blame for escalation and for the state the war got to. Lastly, neither side's Government were attempting to commit genocide although both sides did have groups of soldiers who did so, and to answer your earlier statement, if records are correct more Greek Cypriot civilians were recorded to have been killed than Turkish Cypriots.
@Roygbiv I could keep this argument going for days on end but then again, I have already proven you wrong are you keep coming back so it's a whatever.
thanks Turkey for save people
As a Turkish man, I served in Cyprus as a mandatory military service as every Turkish man has to, The things I saw were bad for both sides in economic and everything, I hope they'll make a peace one day and unite as one.
Fuck you
stelios 200 6 bruh when will you guys stop being another supreme powers puppet? Man fucking said something good and you idiots even puke your hate on that too bc hes turkish and worst part is you are the same guys who cry boohoo turks hate everyone fucking get on with it
1821 we went to the mountains and won you
stelios 200 6 yeah then you tried to conquer anatolia then get your ass kicked and go back to cry Britany bruh you guys sittin on the islands you doesnt even own in the paper they are still ours just like kardak
@@snake7267 kastelorizo belongs to Greece btw and you are trying to take it for Gass and your people are diying... For money
From Cyprus to Ireland, and from Palestine to Sri Lanka, the British Empire left a legacy of poisonous hatred and ethnic conflict. Why? While all colonial empires were bad, the British had an especially harmful arrangement for dealing with subject peoples, namely, dealing in "communal" not "individual" rights. Of course, this also served their "divide and rule" tactics (used by all imperial systems in history) but it was not only that, for you can see its harmful consequences in Britain itself today ("parallel societies", "Londonistan" etc.) Compare this with the French colonial practices, which, in my view, were far more progressive and beneficial. Of course the French were also racist and exploitative, and committed horrible atrocities in their colonies (Algeria, Vietnam etc.) But French ideology and nation-building were (and remain) Universalist and Republican. Thus, in former French colonies, there developed a progressive and unifying anti-colonial nationalism, that helped form nations, not "communities" that were at each other's throat....
@lvan Big Nob I wouldn't say that. Morocco and Vietnam are relatively successful states, for example. But this isn't my point. All colonial empires were bad, racist and exploitative but the British practice of dealing with people in a "communal" basis meant that all ethno-cultural and religious differences were made a million times worse, and you can see the results the world over, and even in Britain itself. The most tragic example is, of course, the Indian Subcontinent.
@lvan Big Nob I don't hate the British, or the French, or the Americans, or the Chinese. And I'm not a "silly Arab". But you are a sorry little racist. There is no point in having a discussion, therefore.
@ I am very aware of the hatred between these two peoples. My point was about the nature of British statecraft and its harmful consequences, including in Britain itself today (when people accuse the British, they usually speak of the "divide and rule" tactics, which, if you read carefully my original comment, I do not). Namely, the main problem was dealing in "communal", not "individual rights". You might agree or disagree with that, but don't say that I hate the British. I've been to Britain and I liked many things there, and especially the people. A lot. But that has nothing to do with historical assessments or the practice of statecraft.
@ marcus Hayneiz Well, I don't disagree with most of what you say here. You probably didn't read my original comment carefully, and where exactly the British made things worse..
@ You have a completely Eurocentric perspective. I find it astonishing that in the 21st century someone would defend colonialism. Everyone should be proud of his/her culture, but not defend aggressive expansion and violence. And to repeat, I'm not saying that the French were better people or had nicer motives than the British, just that their way of governing helped form modern nation-states. There are other areas where the British proved to be much more progressive, women's rights for example.
There is no need for hate guys between us Greeks and Turkish in this comment section.
Yes the Cyprus Insident is an extremely controversial issue and it is added in long list of beef between our countries due to fact that many of the protagonists are still alive and even if they are not alive they have fathered children that know the story because their fathers fought in this incident like my grandfather fought.
So let's stop arguing between ourselves because kings and generals wouldn't do their job right if they didn't cover incidents just like this.
This is a historic incident that happened and due to the fact that still causes beef and argument between our countries it is very important to know the facts of both sides Greeks and Turks alike.
Also do not take this as an opportunity to address the issue of Vardaska (aka Ex Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) because it is not relevant with this video and as a matter of fact because the agreement that was signed is international and according to the Greek Constitution every agreement that involves two countries can be renegotiated from the start because it is an international law that has been approved from The Hague.
And it happens that I know that there has been a lawsuit against the agreement in the international court of justice in The Hague from Greeks that do not agree with the agreement and we await the result so stop arguing about things that do not involve this video end this creator's because these people are doing an outstanding job of covering history.
@@guzelataroach4450 greek troll dedected!!
Stunning graphics about a modern-day tragedy which is close to my heart (I was born in Cyprus). I was missing the role of the British sovereign bases during the conflict for both sides. A friend of mine lived in one for several years in a camp provided for displaced persons.
As usual everything the brits touch turns into a mess
Great video! and Greetings from Turkey
@@31user31 We got used to haters in social media as a Turk i have a 3 Greek friends in my life we love each other theese haters in here have no matter for me i know most of the Greeks like Turkish people as most of us like Greek people :) Only a Greek can understand Turkish culture and same goes for them
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That was them when the turkish technology company ASELSAN was founded. The thrksih forces used American walkie talkies but it didn't worked. So the Turkish army forces were handicapd to communicante. Who knows how the borderline would be nowodays....
Sa beyler
@@Umut-zturk Greetings neighbor. I hope for peace forever, there is nothing worse than a daughter losing a father and a mother losing a son, and vice versa.
incredible graphics my dude! one of your best videos yet
"AYŞE TATİLE ÇIKSIN"
@UNIVERSAL SPACE EXPEDITIONER well... she didnt die. Actually she is 2229 years old.
@UNIVERSAL SPACE EXPEDITIONER no she is 2229 years old and she is immortal.
Ayşe is the daughter of Turan Güneş, Turkish Foreign Minister. Her full name is Ayşe Güneş Ayata. As far as I know she is alive and a faculty member in METU.
@Melek Sarı Yes.
Fuck ur allah🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕
My father is from farmagusta , a Greek Cypriot man , Greek and Turkish Cypriots lived peacefully always before external interventions , both from Britain and turkey
Why don't you add greece there? The organization called eoka killed thousands of Turks in the period you said peace
Yea and Greece was so innocent right? Greeks started everything. We just finished it
Nicely done video. You neglected to mention the role of the English though, as they are the ones who divided the population in hopes that they would be too busy fighting each-other instead of uniting to get them off the island. Classic divide and conquer policy. The Cyprus independence in turn was a 1-side achievement by the Greeks, while at the same time Turkey was brought in as an adversary by the English.
Like so many other places (e.g. India), the English desperately tried to hold on the power before f-ing it up and leaving.
Same story in my country (Sri Lanka) as well. The British just fomented violence between communities that lived in peace for 1000 years, and then left.
he did mention the british were the primary mediators of the island but the specific influence wasnt really zoomed in upon tho indeed
@@sunwukong1754 same here in India/Pakistan as well
Absolutely correct. And needless to say it was the British who promoted and cultivated the Turkish minority as a counterweight to the Greek majority and its demands for enosis (union) with Greece. In an ideal world the island would have become part of Greece in keeping with the will of the overwhelming majority of its native population (not to mention historical justice if one believes in such a thing). The Turkish minority would have fared well enough within Greece (compare the lot of the Muslim minority - including Turks - in Greek Thrace and the Turks on the Dodecanese with that of the Greeks in Istanbul and the islands of Imbros and Tenedos whose numbers have been decimated. Unfortunately realpolitik would have always worked against such an outcome.
The eternal anglo strikes again.
Cyprus - The unsinkable aircraft carrier
1% greeks and turks fighting
1% people complaining about the comment section
98% people complaining about people complaining about the comment section
lmao
Ironic
And yes 1% complaining about people complaining about people complaining about the comment section
If Turks had some more hours, ALL Cyprus will be taken. Lucky Greeks.. But Greeks will not be lucky at next time, if they continue provoking today. Because Turks are developed at weapon technologies and can produce VERY advanced weapons right now.
Pretty civilised this comment section
It was like a Cinema Documentary, compelling one wandering in the zigzags of history.
Glory Motherland. From Turkısh Republıc Of Cyprus 🇹🇷🇨🇾♥️
Ενα κρατος εχει κυπρος
@@ΒασιλείαΚιτσαη turkısh or inglish pls
@@ΒασιλείαΚιτσαηSorry, I don't speak fishes
long live turks from philippines
Long live my brother
Long and high tsunami.. from Greece the best of drawn ❤ I wish you my friend
When your girls coming to greece or cyprus to work and they get fucked its nice tho? Stupid
@@kapioskapios1568 Laughs! You are damn right. Greeks should stop hiring those philippino maids and cleaning ladies. Deport them all.
Turks conquered the byzantine empire so the reversing circuit is the turks shoulndt be around the Mediterranean Sea. The Mediterranean Sea is not the place of origin from turks. Facts. They can "live long" in Turkmenistan or something
Bir aralar kendi savaş gemimizi vurduk diye kendimize laf ediyorduk (galiba). Yunanlarda kendi uçaklarını vurmuşlar (kimse söylemiyor ama) xD
Eng: We knew that a Turkish ship sank with friendly fire in the Cyprus war. But for the first time I learned that the Greeks shot their own plane.
O iş öyle değil amerka yaptı
Amariganın oyunu hüehüehüe
Aselsan'ın doğmasının sebebidir TCG Kocatepe'yi vurmamız. Şehitlerimize Allah rahmet eylesin fakat bu musibetten bir şey öğrendik ve Atatürk'ten sonra ABD'ye emanet edilen vatan savunmamız tekrar millileşmesi için kıvılcım olmuştur.
@@mehmedeminipek Aselsan Reise laf yok :3
+e77263718r6e826379293774
i am a Turkish guy who lives in Greece for 6 months and i can say that Greece is like my own country and we are not even that different stop fighting stop hating each other 🇹🇷🇬🇷
Greetings from greek. I hope we have peace forever my friend I really hope for that.
If your homeland were taken illegally by another country you wouldnt think that way,its easier to say things that you didn’t even had the chance to see what is actually look like
@@kapioskapios1568 If you havent been just to others you dont have the right to talk about justice later.
talat guneyli i dont understand your english
@@kapioskapios1568 I mean if you have been unjust to others at first ,then you dont have the right to talk about justice later. Cypriot Greeks were unjust to Turkish Cypriots thats what im trying to point out, i hope you understand my english this time !
You did not give full info. Okay 3000-6500 lose men only military. But Cypriot Turkish lose than more civil public.Greek soldiers tried to commit genocide against the rules of war without distinguishing between women and children.
the turkish soldiers were accused of genocide and not the greek ones.
THIS WAS AWESOME!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING THIS FOR FREE I LOVE YOU
I am french, but the Turks are right, the Greeks tormented, I think everyone should recognize the Turkish Republic. this is not an invasion but really a peace operation
@@Jovan_Jarkarane You would not have killed them. At the moment, the Turkish army is defeating even our and your combination. At the same time, Cyprus has never been Greek in its history, it is normally Turkish soil. They wouldn't even think if you didn't kill them.
@@Jovan_Jarkarane how else will they save without fighting. most just the current situation. everyone should know about northern Cyprus.
@@Jovan_Jarkarane 1. we colonized, not the Byzantines, that is, the Romans. 2. Turks immigrated, it doesn't matter. 3. Because you continued to kill. He said never mind in America, don't mess with the Turks, they will send us from Europe, too.
@@Jovan_Jarkarane You must be seriously delusional if you think that Greece could have taken Turkey in a conventional war in 1974. Greece would have gotten steamrolled like they did in the past whenever they came against the Turks/Ottomans.
"and hit turkey from behind when most of the Turkish forces were in Cyprus."
This is so ignorant I don't even know where to begin. First of all, "most" of the Turkish forces were NOT in Cyprus lmao. You think that Turkey's standing army is 40,000?
Secondly, Turkey's navy was not only dominant in the Mediterranean, but much more powerful than the Greek navy. So pray tell how Greece would even strike Turkey from "behind"?
Turkey would not have invaded if not for the military coup which installed a fascist, racist, anti-Turkish leader which sought to unite Cyprus with Greece. You tell other to learn history but you speak nonsense and you're just another clueless national praising their own country while whining about others.
@@Jovan_Jarkarane That's in 1963 Bloody Christmas. EOKA made a Genocide to Turkish Cypriots. Turkish Cypriots buried alive by EOKA. Babies, Women, Kids killed by EOKA. And in 1955-1974 Greek goverment defended and supported terrorist group. What talking about u?
Thank you for making history cool. Should be in every school.
You should be in a rap battle
This video does not do a good job in describing the situation in Cyprus. There is no description of the demographics of Cyprus before the 1974 Turkish invasion. The fact that it doesn’t explain that the island had an 82% of Greek population and a Turkish minority of 15%, compliments the Turkish propaganda that the island is half Turkish. Turkish minorities were guests on this island, but did not respect our home as a guest is supposed to do. Imagine because there is a big Turkish minority in Germany, Turkey comes and occupies half of the country by the force of weapons. The Germans would never accept this.
And now you who read this, substitute ‘Germany’ with the name of your country… would you accept that?
Turkish population was 18% stop Greek propaganda
How did they make the map visuals? It's fantastic!
You did an amazing job! Nice animations and description of the events
Your Videos are amazing. All the effort you put in for the animations are really top quality. keep up the good work.
Well done Turkey. You are a great nation!
Do not support war crimes dude.
@@universalspaceexpeditioner8259The only crime committed is the civilians murdered by Greek terrorists