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You were one of the 1st reviewers that touched on the grass being greener on the other side theory I think Joe has to finally realize that he is the problem lol
Everyone pointing out that Joe's bored easily and always falls for a new person and I agree but to me the additional reason why he can't seem to love Love Quinn is because she is a female reflection of himself and he hates himself
Idk love isn’t a female reflection of himself. She acts impulsively on anyone she doesn’t like he usually has reason (while it is usually crazy) love will kill someone for giving her the wrong coffee
@@Lavagamer123 not exactly in terms of being impulsive, but in a way how they rationalize their killing behaviours. Also Joe is always justifying himself for why he kills someone so the audience would think that its justified, he’s a great manipulator
Also because he doesn't love people, he loves the IDEA of them, when he sees them for who they are he doesn't like them anymore, hes constantly projecting onto his partners, kind of like having a favorite person Edit: rewatch season one and look at how he talks about the way he thinks peach wants beck, I'm pretty sure it's there because hes the exact same
Cary and sherry, despite them being pretty annoying and the type of pretentious people I despise, they were one of my favorite and funniest characters of this season.
Am I the only one annoyed by how unhinged and impulsive Love was? Out of rage, she 1. Kills Natalie, 2. Strikes Gil, 3. Shouts out that she killed Natalie when there are two bloody people upstairs. Like holy sheit, she created so much of the problems that occurred in season 3.
I feel the same way, Love causes all the issues this season and then turns around and blames Joe for her actions. I'm going to miss seeing her in the next season but honestly by the end I was pretty annoyed by her.
4. Almost kills Theo 5. Almost killed marienne, and they both did nothing wrong really. I also hated Joe though. If he wasn’t so weird and obsessive over other woman none of this would happen.
Didn’t think that by the end I’d be rooting for Sherry and Carey, but I was practically yelling at my screen for them to find the key in the last episode and break out!
For real!!! I HATED Sherry at first! Thought Carry was cool but I wanted Sherry to die honestly but by the end, Im glad they both lived. Joe actually was pretty cool for letting them live. He could have killed them
Omg yes! Everytime I saw THAT craziness in her eyes I knew that she was gonna kill somebody. It’s amazing. Victoria has really great acting skills, although she sees herself as a basic actress, and gets really emotional when people told her she’s special and does something unique and memorable in acting :(
Raise your hand if you binged it in one go ✋🏻 Man that was a crazy ride… I loved Theo, Marianne & Dante this season. Good characters all around. Solid ending. It’a hard to follow up the brilliance of S1 & 2 but I still enjoyed it!
@fright car don’t get me wrong they’re parts where I was like wait what’s happening but at the same time it’s nice to feel confused and have to piece things together like it makes it interesting if I could guess the plot from the very start then it’ll all be a predictable shit show really
@@HUYI1 she did killed her ex husband James after successfully fighting cancer. That’s kinda mess up tbh. They both deserve to die, but I was still team Joe throughout the whole season. I like how he thinks ahead, and how smart he is. Also I like how he’s a book reader just like myself. Not too many people read books anymore
I don’t understand why people are sort of complaining or bummed that season 3 was so different from seasons 1 and 2. I mean Joe was a single man in seasons 1 and 2 who would get obsessed with women. In season 3 he was married and a father of course it was going to be different especially with Love being so impulsive. I thought season 3 was brilliant, and can’t wait for season 4.
I agree best season yet! I almost felt season 1 and 2 where anti-climatic and had a couple of twists. I think maybe it depends on your relationship status as well. those who are single and trying to date probably related more to seasons 1 and 2 are rather more creepy to them. Those who are/been married, or are/have been in long-term relationship can relate more to season 3 is rather more creepy.
Some people just aren't into content about married life. Watching a couple (mostly Love) trying desperately to make a marriage work that was only held together in the beginning by a baby is a bit of a bummer. Though its You so there is still plenty bits of the show to like. That and the new cast members. I loved that Scott Speedman and Tati Gabrielle were in the show.
I agree when I actually gave season 3 a chance I ended up really enjoying it. The differences are welcome BUT I do also think the vibes I got from season 1 & 2 were better and they had loads more interesting themes
@@riripari2042 That's the thing about the show that is real too. People in long term relationships often stay together way too long for the sake of the baby. Often times them staying together for the sake of a baby but it can be rather more damaging for the baby. There are so many one sided marriages like theirs where one it trying to make things work but the other is just frankly against them. This show true side of how marriages can be. It's not just happily ever after its work and often times it's the blame game to people. It's their fault you're not happy but it's your fault your not happy. Being held together becasue of a babby is a bummer is it quite the reality for a lot of people.
rich how joe said that he is monogamous but he easily changes his feeling for one girl to another, he was obsessed with natalie, then back to love then somehow in love with marriene, like pick a struggle
@fright car I don’t think so. Marienne’s character had too much depth to be a last minute decision. It’s clear that as time progresses, the show is gradually trying to show the audience how Joe came to be, while slowly forcing Joe to face his past and realize that he has serious issues. The fact that he has so much in common (past-wise) with Marienne kind of adds to that in addition to all the orphanage flashbacks, not to mention Joe probably sees in Marienne the choice to be there for her child in spite of her issues that his mother didn’t make for him. I could honestly see him chasing her an expedition to him finally receiving consequences for his actions, because even with her finding out what he is; he seems to have a HUGE Achilles heel for vulnerable children and I don’t see him intentionally killing her with her being her child’s only surviving parent. Especially after how he reacted to Love killing Delilah. I think there was just a lot going on this season in general, so it was harder to really focus on Joe and his individual problems, and subsequently adequately fleshing out Marienne’s character.
Yea Joe got really annoying in season 3, I was really hoping he'd get better and finally stop stalking women. I hope they change it up in season 4 cuz the stalking women thing is getting a bit old
@fright car Yea honestly my preferred ending would've been Joe dying at the hands of Love, it just feels poetic. Either that or him finally finding happiness by himself, there's no in between for me.
I think for season 4, we need a crossover where Joe becomes obsessed with Emily from "Emily In Paris." This is the crossover we didn't know we needed LOL
@@carteralita5377 😂 I am sorry this Netflix show did not meet your ideal psychological thriller standards. It's really not that deep. This show is just a good adaptation from the book I read years before it came out as a mainstream show. Just because it is part of a specific genre does not mean it is the best thing out there.
Love even said at the end that “this wouldn’t be happening if you didn’t go for the weapon” implying that she put the poison on the knife and didn’t poison the food or anything. Didn’t pick that up at first
@@klaraj.3288 I thought so at first but in the video he pointed out that she had a rag or like mitt on the handle of the knife never actually putting skin to it. But Joe straight grabbed that mf 😂😂
@@tiffanytiany6944 i thought that line was important Bc i first heard her say it but still thought she poisoned the food or something. Until I watched this breakdown I was like “ahhhhhh the knife handle”
i feel like they originally wanted joe to lose his finger then realised how much of a pain that would be to do prosthetics every season so they took his toes because he can just wear shoes
yeah obviously… that was a really big part of the show. she said if she didn’t think her crazy ex husband would find her there, she would flee there if she ever wanted to escape.
I'm just surprised they didn't bring ellie back this season. Seems like they missed a perfect plot opportunity. I hope they incorporate her in season 4
It's kinda scaring how people are not criticizing Joe's sociopathy more. Now Love is no angel but Joe emotionally manipulated Love, while chasing not one but TWO women! It was ok for Joe to kill and manipulate but when Love does it, she's a monster? I really hoped this season would do a better job of holding a mirror up to Joe, but it seems like the show runners were trying too hard to make him a sympathetic character by bashing us over the head with those childhood flashback scenes every two seconds. Joe doesn't love any of these women. He projects an image onto them, then gets mad when they don't act how he wants them to, and paints then as monsters to rationalize throwing them away like hot garbage. He spends so much time criticizing everyone else but neglects to point out that hes a manipulative sociopath, who loves the idea of love more than the women he chooses to obsess over. When you think about it from a real world perspective, there are actually guys out thrre who rationalize violent behavior towards women, and get away with it. It's scary as fuck.
You are exactly right. I think their attraction to him makes them forget sometimes that we are watching from the perspective of a serial killer and stalker. It’s interesting to see how many people are excited Love died, but don’t want Joe to die as though he’s just some innocent love struck, good guy who only kills “bad people”.
i think some people ( not me) are sympathetic woth joe because of seeing it from his POV and how he sees Love as being crazy when she's just doing what he was/is. I don't think it's because Love is a woman. They did act very similarly but Love was very impulsive and that was annoying for some viewers but it is just a show.
Love is just annoying and impulsive, also joe is trying to be a better guy, but she keeps fucking him over. This has nothing to do with gender, keep it out of it.
I love how love’s characters is the embodiment of love. The impulsiveness, the rationalizing, the devotion, the timidness, and the boldness, she would go to the ends of the earth for joe, the delusion, the rage, the fear… love’s character is a magnitude of things
@@ParadoX-os No. That’s love. Don’t let the modern psychobabble that love is only “kind and patient” 🤮 fool you- Love is burning hot on both ends of the spectrum. It can make you peaceful and it can make you crazy lol.
@@whitneyangelie3682 I would suggest looking up the definition of obsession. But either way we can both agree that whether you want to call it love or obsession, it is not healthy.
@@ParadoX-os I think it’s the codependent unhealed aspect of it that makes it unhealthy. For me I love intensely, of course not as much as love and and joe, but the passion I feel for my parter is a fire within. Yes I feel rage at times, delusional, sometimes even obsessive. Love can do that to you, there’s so many things that go into what love is… I didn’t mean love is killing off anyone who hurts you, or being manipulative, and controlling.
My favourite part was when Joe answers Marianne call, talk about the badness in people (Ryan) and gets excited about the future he and Marianne could have because "they are good people", while holding a shovel to bury a teenager in the basement of her wife's bakery, laughing maniacally.
Theo did not like his other mother . He kept saying I don’t want to go back there . What if he is related to Joe.. which can explain why Joe let him live . What if Joe saved his own brother and didn’t even know
theo's mom is called mimi. yeah, she could've changed her name, but she would be a lot older than matthew if they were ever married, and it doesn't seem like his type to date older women. also the math isn't mathing with theo's age and the kid's, theo is just 18-19 while the other kid might be a bit older (joe's already on his early/mid 30s)
i think people want to show the mom so bad and are just creating weird, unbased theories like the one that the neighbor (natalie) was the mom lol like what are the odds of that happening
I can’t believe this dude left his child for a girl he’s just gonna get bored of and find someone else to stalk. Does he expect Marianne to welcome him with open arms when he’s supposed to be dead!
Sherry and Carey in the cage was hilarious!!! Man I’m glad they got away and I hated them both in the beginning! 😂😂😂 Stop complaining ppl, it was still a good season!
I didn’t like how Joe just kind of stopped talking about needing to take care of Ellie. Now that he’s in France- who’s taking care of her? Where does she get her money? Does she come back? I do want to see Jacob brought in- I’m just not sure how. Hopefully they do a good job at wrapping it up. Netflix has a big problem with leaving plot holes for a quick wrap up.
@@giuliarosingana2634 could be wrong but I think he was Joe's co- worker from season 1 not a particularly interesting character so no idea why someone would want to see him again
Joe killing Love at the end of Season 3 was absolutely inevitable. It's set up at the end of Season 2. He hates her and only stays with her for their child and was literally a split second from killing her when she told him about the pregnancy. Of course, if he were to simply end it, as he tried to, she was always going to try to kill him because she would never risk him exposing her past.
I agree with everything, although I feel like she would never let him leave simply because she thought they were “perfect for each other”. She simply would never let him leave because she loves control.
I really hope Love isn't dead, I really didn't feel like her story was finished. & I personally found her 100x more interesting than Joe. AT least she cared about her marriage and her family, Joe just wanted to find new people all the time. He'll never be satisfied with one person.
She cared about her marriage by fucking Theo? She kept fucking that poor boy and had no qualm killing him. And killing anyone for no reason. She was an annoying and undisciplined killer.
Love annoyed me and women like her annoys me too. Marienne was right, Love needs to love herself and stop obsessing over killing for a man she doesn't even like.
@Nay Daloner She didn't like Joe, she said it herself. But she won't let anyone have him. I didn't want Joe to go after Marianne at first, but once Love started messing with Theo, I was I didn't mind it. And Joe had made progress too: he dialed out his creepy habit of collecting his crushes' personal items. He's also very reluctant to kill. The only person he killed this season is Ryan, a questionable person himself, and even then killing him wasn't Joe's first intention.
This series is just unexpected, I usually like to predict movies or series but this series make me questioned myself what will happen next after episodes. Damn...
This season was AMAZING. Victoria Pedretti's acting was so good. I actually hated her character so much!! The darker hair and make up helped. She looked stunning this season!
Seriously, Exile by Taylor Swift and Bon Iver was the BEST choice for THAT moment in the season finale. It fit so perfectly with Love and Joe’s constant turmoil with them always being on different pages, getting increasingly frustrated and always at the tipping point, then the comparisons to Love and every other woman that Joe has obsessed over and ultimately, killed (or attempted to). Everyone needs to really listen to that amazing song and the lyrics. It’s beautiful. Here are just a few of the lyrics that I think fit them perfectly but honestly the whole song does. “I think I’ve seen this film before, and I didn’t like the ending. I’m not your homeland anymore, so who am I defending now? You were my town, now I’m in exile seeing you out.” “I think I’ve seen this film before, and I’m leaving out the side door.” “We always walked a very thin line. You didn’t even hear me out. You never gave a warning sign (I gave so many signs).”
I agree! My heart broke when Exiled played and it hit differently now after listening to it on loop after finishing You. The song somehow "explained" what the both felt and made Love understandable despite her aggressive and implusive side.
Girl!! I was tearing like a baby!! It somewhat summed up life in a way for me. Like sometimes you could love someone so much but you too are just on different courses in life.
I disagree that Joe doesnt think 5 minutes ahead of a murder. Love is the emotional and impulsive one, killing people without regard for consequences. Joe is usually way more thoughtful
It’s super interesting to me that so many people could sympathize with Joe in the previous seasons but now are finding him to be awful. Personally I’ve had the opposite feeling. In the first two seasons I was super put off by him and his obsessive behaviour and murder etc. this season there were lots of glimpses of him going in a better direction but every time he got closer to being better, Love did something impulsive that pulled him back. At the beginning of the season he had the opportunity to sleep with Natalie and rejected her because he felt a loyalty to Love despite her killing one of his only friends, and his moral compass was beginning to guide him in a better direction (again obviously still unfaithful and a bad decision but improvement from what he has done in the past) Love then kills her and makes him clean up the whole mess and proceeds to sleep with Natalie’s step son. He constantly says “this is the last time” to Henry only for Love to kill someone else for being an antivaxxer 😂 if you listen to Joe’s dialogues there are times where he tries to recommit to Love and their marriage saying things like “I don’t deserve her” “ she’s such a good wife I need to do better as a husband father” and then she does the next insane thing that pushes him further away. The other character arc for Joe that I found slightly redeeming this season was the way he fell for Marianne. When he first met Marianne he didn’t give her the time of day. He was in the library because he was following Natalie, chasing an image of a woman who he didn’t even know. His typical love at first sight pattern. He had no interest in Marianne at all at first. He developed a relationship with Marianne because they had similar pasts, similar interests and relatable life experiences. He fell in love with her because he was able to connect with her, not the image of her he created through stalking her social media or creating a caricature of her in his mind. This was the first time you see Joe really see the real person and her real flaws (addiction) and still accept them. This is a drastic departure from Love and I think shows how Love taught him to look at the person right in front of him instead of “staring at a goddamn fantasy” as she said in season 2. I loved the scenes where you saw him tempted to take something of Marianne’s but then puts it back like the bracelet. Also when he’s searching through her office computer and goes into her desk, there is a box of tampons. Every woman he has been obsessed with previously he takes a used tampon as a screwed up keepsake. It stood out to me that this recurring object was both unused and left behind. It’s was sort of a foreshadowing to me that she wouldn’t die because there was no blood. In that scene he says he’s done with Marianne because his image of her is “damaged” when he found out she was an addict but then when he gets to know the real Marianne he realizes her flaws are what make her a woman he cares for. This is why he was able to share that he murdered before with her (even though he only confessed to one of many) This is the total opposite of every other Woman Joe has been obsessed with. He creates and image of them that he wants AND he curates an image of himself to present where as with Marianne we see him give her little bits of truth and accepting her flaws whereas he resented flaws in his previous victims. I hope these brief glimmers of development continue in season 4 because lord knows Joe has a ton of work left to do on himself but if you look closely Marianne is slightly different than the others and I don’t find his pursuit of her to be repetitive or a part of his typical pattern. Another break from the repetition is that Marianne’s daughter is the first child that doesn’t seem to like Joe. A bit part of his character is that he is a protector especially of children, both Marianne’s daughter and Henry constantly crying or uneasy with Joe is symbolic of his image of himself as a noble protector of fragile things beginning to shatter and starting to see his true self. I would love to see a development where he turns himself in rather than getting caught, where he grows to a point where he can truly realize where he has gone wrong instead of seeking justification in everything he’s done. I think Marianne, Will Bettleheim, Dante, Ellie and Paco are all characters that have and hopefully will in future seasons lead Joe to the realization that he needs help. Joe has so many conversations with himself where he seeks to be a good person but he doesn’t have the tools by himself. I think it would be great to have a couple more seasons where he grows slightly (but is still crazy enough to have some suspense) but ultimately admits to everything because he will eventually realize it is the right thing to do. Thanks for coming to my TedTalk 😂
THIS. 100% all the reasons I am quietly rooting for Joe lol. And liked this season more than the others. Love's character was also played amazingly, but she was never the protagonist of this series. I didn't feel like she "deserved" to die as people have said lol...but I did not feel sad when she died. This isn't about a beautiful love story people! 😂
SAAAAME. I had the complete opposite feeling. I despised him, wanted him locked up. I'm looking at the comments and thinking "now, y'all realizing he's a psycho, he's toxic?"
The heartbreak of seeing his mom move on with a new child 💔 love is an awesome character but ugh she was so messy and blamed everything on Joe. Glad the couple made it out the cage. I low key was happy that shes gone just wish Joe kept Henry instead of chasing Marianne he was showing character development by trying hard not to kill especially letting the go of theo
Yea, I was disappointed how little into fatherhood he was when he found out it was a boy instead of a girl. Like only a baby girl was deserving of his protection and love. I get that woman are really the objects of his affection/obsession but we forget he did have a little boy that he helped take care of in season 1 so I don't get the hesitation with his own son, but whatever. And you complain about abandonment only to do the same to your kid. Loving adoptive parents or not that history will still royally mess him up once he finds out who his mother was and how she killed half the people in town, then completed an alleged murder-suicide with his father as another casualty.
That’s the thing with serial killers, they don’t know how to stop, since they will never be able to get what they need. They can’t be healed. That’s what I like about this show. We’re getting an in depth look at a serial killer.
Anyone thinks that this season was way more brutal and mature than season 1 and 2? Cause I was left with big scars from this. At the beginning I was just thinking "aww, look how sweet are Love, Joe and little Henry together, like a family!" and then it got darker like "You" always does and the murderers started, so msny this time. I thought we knew everything about Joe's childhood but seeing so many new flashbacks in this season just made a lot of sense, made me think we knew nothing about Joe, even though we listened to his inner monologue every time. The reason he was so afraid of being abandoned, the reason he's killing every bad person. I wish we knew what happened to his mom though cuz at this point I wouldn't be suprise to find that Joe killed her and her new son. And when the fu*k is Joe gonna learm that things ARE actually gonna be the same everytime?! So many twisted news this season too. I really didn't wanna believe Love killed James. I mean, they seemed so happy, he was such a good man and Love didn't kill people she loves... But that changed in this season, my whole perspective changed. Now I can't stop wondering who is crazier, Joe or Love? At least, in the end Joe realized he's gotta save Henry from him and he left him with a beautiful family where he knew he'd be loved. Remains to be seen if Joe will find Marianne in Paris or find another obsession and continue it all over... Though, I'd like him to have a stalker of himself, a person who became obsessed with him the same way he does, a manipulative person who can show him how obsessive and sick he is. Now, the story of Nick will begin, soon.... :)
i’ve always known love was crazy, since the very first time she made it on screen in season 2. i never liked her and i’m really thankful that she’s dead. i hope she stays dead and there isn’t some way she survived. she was soooo annoying and impulsive this entire season, and in season 3 as well. i think season four will go something like this: joe will find a new obsession in paris and they’ll get together, but then mid season, marienne will show up and there’s gonna be a lot of conflict in that way. idk how everything will play out but i think it’s gonna be something along those lines.
Def agree, 1st and 2nd season was 10/10, but the 3rd season was meh. I felt like they could have ended it right there too. Hearing that there will be a 4th season coming out, makes it sound like its going to be not great. The one thing that boggles my mind is Natalie's car is a tesla which literally records 24/7 and her husband was a tech guy who was watching the city with cameras. Why didn't he just tap into the tesla cameras? lol
@@Kingston997 Well for awhile it was his secret project and he was going through hours of footage alone. When you get bogged down or even sometimes thinking you know it all it's always helpful to get a fresh pair of eyes and different perspective. So that's what the son offered.
@@Kingston997 he was sleep deprived, anxious and grieving. It's understandable he missed a few tiny details hell I almost missed it when it showed it because it was so small and subtle.
Because then the plot wouldn’t work. The really should of just changed wat car she drove and we wouldn’t have these questions. Then again, This show is obviously fictional so they can do whatever they want. Maybe in this universe where madre Linda exists, Tesla’s don’t save camera footage.
There are alot of plot holes in season 3 to be honest this season was ok I don't like how Joe abandon his son so easily like this season was Repetitive and all over the place it shouldn't be a season 4
This the only season of any show I ever finished watching in one day 🤣🤣🤣 I loved ittttt !!! And I literally want season 4 right NOW 🤣 love is dead omg 🤦🏾♀️😩
Pretty honest review I was skipping through a lot of unnecessary plot but the end kept you hooked till you realize how deflating it is that he basically learned nothing and became the parent he despised but they still make it enjoyable to watch
Just finished the season, pleased how it wrapped up. Glad to see Love get her demise. I will say since the news broke for season 4 being renewed. To me season 4 has to end with Joe’s demise. From my point of view Joe will never find the right person and i think going this route would benefit the show.
Sorry to say but love got what she was coming to her she wasn't my favorite and I agree I'm sure Joe won't find the one at all I have an feeling the last season would be s4 or 5
I think they should go "breaking bad style" and that in 5th season joe ends up getting arrested and sent to jail. I really liked season 3(Didnt enjoy it as much as the first two bcuz it took them 18 months to realese season3) but still very good charachters and ending was amazing!
I really liked the dynamic between Joe and Love. I liked how they were into it together, and how that plays out. But again it becomes about Joe being obsessed with a new girl (the chemistry was super forced) which at this point ur just like dude come the fuck on were tired of this. I would have rather Joe and Love actually started to heal their interior issues, but now they have to deal w what theyve done & are on the run because of the things they did along the way. Forcing them back into their killing ways.
@@joshdeveaux6936 it is irrational because the purpose of their actions is set by their passion, which is temporary, deadly, destructive and never an end in itself.
i get that completely. but the entire plot line of the show is that Joe sees himself as perfect and morally straight. so when he’s w someone who is just as deranged as he is, it shocks him and makes him fearful. he seeks out “beautifully broken” girls and love was broken… but she didn’t have this innocence and naivety to her like Beck did. he chases the impossible and even when Beck did have flaws to her… he kinda blew them up. he will constantly chase what he cannot have. that’s the entire point. it’s not meant to be comfortable. he doesn’t see himself as a killer which his why they cannot have the “bonnie and clyde” dynamic.
@@joshdeveaux6936 Nobody is missing "the point", it's very easy to get. But the problem is that "the point" could be presented in a better and smarter way, not like this Marianne & Theo BS
Agreed. The other seasons were filled with so many plot twists but this one felt super predictable to me. I don't think I'll be interested enough to watch season 4
@@CMVMic But she kept on assaulting people just because she couldn't deal with her own stupid insecurities. And I notice that she only ever attacks when people have their backs turned. It's so cowardly.
@@im_a_chair5556 He very much is this season. He faces the face he is not a good person that hes attracted to damaged people due to his tumultuous childhood and experiences and that he is the source of most of problems
@@Argos-xb8ek he literally acknowledged why he chases woman then proceeded to do exactly that and still never once acknowledged he's just as bad as love. Joe has no self-awareness because if he did a lot of this wouldn't have happened and he would have lived happily ever after with love.
@Urban E LMAO Yeah I know I know,but I just feels like in the end she just Love JOE too much(but you're right,we shouldn't love someone or hate someone too much to hurt Him/Her. But I think Love truly wants to be a good mother.
is the name Love Quinn a reference to Harley Quinn?? As in joe and love are basically joker and harley: psychotic, crazy, and toxic asf. oh and murderers
Didnt like the love and Theo thing going on. Felt like it could have been cut out and have more time of Joe with Natalie so her death could have been more meaningful. Joe and the librarian had literally no chemistry it was just like “shit we killed the neighbor too early who else can we bring. I know the library that had 2 seconds in episode 1.” They should have cut her out and made Love stalk someone else this time around while Joe seems to have changed but at the end kill love for another “you”
Yes but y’all need to realize that it might have been necessary because Theo still has a copy of the video of how Natalie was killed so maybe that might help next season hopefully Joe gets caught
I think this season is the best so far. I know that's probably a controversial opinion but the characters were on point, and so was the plot lines. Sherry, Cary, and Theo ruled this season
I understand why Joe came to despise Love as she was basically a reflection of the qualities he hates most in himself, but FJFFHH it bothers me so much that things didn't work out between them because Love is right - they are literally SO perfect for eachother
SPOLERS (sorta) IMO, I feel like the script was changed half way through writing, to change the gender of the baby and also undermining Joe and Nat's romance by him moving onto another person. It just shows how the writers didn't really have a straight forward plan after season 2 (Yes, I felt like the pandemic definitely affected the show and the script.) It was a good season not the best tho
I felt like Joe wanted a girl because a son would remind him too much of himself, which scared him. I also thought Natalie was a good way to add the suspense of everyone trying to find out if they’ll find out or not. Kind of like the pee in the first season & another thing (??) in the second. Idk that’s just how I took it! But I totally see this too.
THIS!!!! Obviously if you pay close attention a lot of their environment is empty so that felt off. But their interactions and all just looked awkward, I'm not sure if they forgot how to hold the characters personalities, but some of it felt forced. Also them Love killing nonstop? She was crazy but they made her look unhinged. I wonder if motherhood just fucked with her brain
plot twist: “You” will pull a Riverdale and make the show supernatural, Marienne is actually Prudence and she’s gonna kill Joe in exchange for Sabrina Spellman’s resurrection.
unpopular opinion* I don't think that joe and Marianne had a love connection at all. I would've liked this season so much better if it just ended with joe behind bars!
This season was a huge departure for the series IMO. The first to seasons followed very similar formats. While this season just went completely off there rails.
@@matthewmower2071 I mean, it is kind of repetitive. Someone always ends up the in cage, Joe(and love) get super close to being caught but then fix the whole situation. Etc.
@@matthewmower2071 It's not the show specifically, it's JOE and his actions. It's the same cycle with him. Meet a girl, get obsessed, stalk her and kill of any threats, then WHEN she disappoints him, kill her. The only deviation was Love. She was the wildcard that made the season crazy. I think Joe should of died instead. I don't see what else can happen with the character because he just repeats the same cycle over and over. Whereas Love is insane to the point you can't predict what she'll do next.
This was definitely the season where I thoroughly hated Joe and realized how deep into his own self righteousness he was. Candace wanted him to finally look in the mirror and see the monster he truly is: But even when he was self aware he wasn't really. Made the same excuses and the same mistakes. I found it funny that he finally realized his dating pattern in this season at least (via mommy issues) but not actually breaking it. This man is back on his bullshit. I think this season was imperfect but put the final nail in the coffin for how the audience *should* see Joe. Season one and two still lured you in with the charisma that he inflicts on his victims but this season made me absolutely disgusted with him. Knowing Penn wanted the audience to see Joe for the bad person he is - I think it finally shows here. The excuses, the justifications, and charm are running dry the more we dive into his psyche. If that was the goal for the writers this season I'd say that's the best thing to come out of it. I don't even know if having another season is a great idea at this point unless we finally see justice for everything Joe has done.
@@ernesto.carloz I figured there *would* be another season. 😅 Just don't want the show to lose its magic by trying to milk out a franchise. I started to feel that already this season as much as I still enjoyed it. However they decide to wrap it up I hope it's satisfying and conclusive, you know? There's quite a few plot holes to fill that I hope they didn't forget.
Joe is literally a psychopathic murderous stalker. He always has been, always will be otherwise it’d be a different show… imagine if dexter stopped killing people.
@@slowmomma7222 Really? Literally? 😃 Talk about a spoiler. I'm not actually upset about Joe being a killer in the show, I hope you know that. I'm saying the show did a good job at evoking the proper reaction because the general consensus before were people over empathizing with Joe and forgetting he's actually a horrible person. Evoking strong emotion and debate about a character is a sign of a good show. That's not the problem. When I said it's an "imperfect" season, it's that I can already see that the show itself is becoming a little gimmicky and losing potency. Which sucks because I enjoy it but it's probably a sign that it shouldn't be unnecessarily dragged out and ruin a good thing. Hope that makes sense.
I don’t know why I was so emotionally attached to Love’s character. As she was dying i was bawling 😭 proceeded to cry the rest of the episode. This show just keeps getting better and better. Joe really needs to heal his childhood trauma, and I feel like love was more willing to heal than joe… or should I say nick.
For me, this season was underwhelming, idk just seemed off and was a really slow build up, also I hated how Joe was in this season, like he just pissed me off for some reason and was kinda hoping love would kill him haha. But honestly i just thought this season could’ve been a bit better.
@Ninna Symone fair enough, yeah i liked love, just not the serial killer part hahha oh and the cheating, and she was in no right mental state to look after a child lol but neither is joe, he also cheated, went back to his old ways and was kinda contradicting himself cause he went back and fourth alot
I think this season was amazing. The point of characters like these is that no, they don't at all want to stalk and kill their own people. It's the opposite. They TRY to be normal, to blend in, but their true damaged nature won't let them. As far as Joe, it's almost a typical malignant sociopathic narcissist that always thinks the 'next' woman is The One, with the typical love bombing, stalking, whirlwind passion and then, decline and decay. That's EXACTLY how they operate. It was brilliant.
I liked most of the season but joe killing love and running away is basically the same as the end of season one, i feel like they should have either made them kill eachother or found by the police. Netlix never ends shows at the right time so it's getting really repetitive, you could make a time jump and follow his son after or something, idk i just felt like the ending was a bit lazy.
See I got an idea now. Time skip should be done. Only way they can pull it off without being repetitive is like you said. Or joes son killing Joe realizing he is a monster
I wish if they were to ever drag this show to s4, i would love to see Love plotting a revenge on Joe and getting equal. She is the perfect antagonist for Joe bcs she understands him the most.
It’s almost like the ending is the same because Joe keeps falling into the same patterns. Let’s not forget that this show is to highlight dangerous behavior, and the endings typically are the same because Joe is not getting anywhere in his life because he just keeps doing the same things is different ways.
I thought Season 2 was the peak, and on the first episode of Season 3; I was proven wrong. Have no idea how they’re gonna top the previous season, but after this, I have full faith in them. Incredible!
Season 2 still might the peak for me still. Even after Season 4, hopefully it'll at least beat out Season 3 with it's uneventful beginning and be paced the way the rest of Season 3 was.
Joe killed Love. Literally. The only chance at someone loving him and accepting him the way he is. What id like to see in season 4 is Joe finding someone in Paris and his next “victim” not being able to accept him for who he is once they learn the truth. He has a break down and realizes that Love is the true love that he lost. But little does he know love is alive and she tracks him down. After a rough confrontation and some hard realizations they come together again as one. And toward the end they once again come face to face with an opportunity to kill someone. Either him or her but they stop themselves and this will signify true change. They track down their son and truly start fresh. They are end game. They HAVE to be end game
I actually predicted one of them will not make it out alive.. but I kinda felt bad love died in the end but she did most of the murders and shes too impulsive to not get caught in the future without joe or her rich family to back her up.
The best part of the entire season to me is the moment when Ryan mocks Joe “you don’t have it in you” and Joe shows his true colors that he spends all season trying to pretend don’t exist! He takes his mask off just to show Ryan how much he can, will and enjoys taking Ryan’s life in a violent, intimate way. It was such perfect dark comedy IMO chilling and creepy but for the span of three seasons of Joe trying to feel better about himself by acting above murder because he “doesn’t enjoy it” it was pretty thrilling/disturbing to see him rip his mask down and violently murder Ryan with a smile on his face. It’s so f’d up but that’s why we watch. Lol
@@kkharps5395 yes! His delight and lack of hesitation to prove Ryan wrong is the most disturbing display we see for any of the murders in all three seasons. Chilling!
I don't like how Marianne and Theo are considered the best people, I mean sure they are fine and best characters in the season but let's not forget they both slept/ went behind someone married and irl that would be quite shitty, I guess people around them are much worse so they don't seem as bad.
Nope! Both Joe and Love manipulated them. Marianne was told that Joe and Love were separating, and even then… it’s not Mariannes fault for Joes infidelity. Also, Theo is barely an adult, there was a power imbalance and Love knew that and used it. Let’s not forget that manipulative people are manipulative and can cause someone to do uncharacteristic things.
@@eee9266 I can somewhat agree on Theo's defence but every unhappy married man cheats saying he's separating with his wife, call my morals too high but I wouldn't do it unless someone is actually done and dusted with divorce thus Marriene was at fault for sure. Plus Joe didn't actually do anything manipulated, Marriene fell in love with him fairly.
@@mahikakashyap9847 … Joe stalked Marianne and used the information he gained from that stalking as a way to appeal to Marianne. He manipulated her the same way he manipulated Beck, he’s just getting a lot more careful with it.
Was Joe pretending to be poisoned when he wasn't? He took adrenaline at some point beforehand, and then somehow regained mobility at just the right time...
Look I love this show so much but Joe needs to really stop falling for every single woman that smiles at him. It does not make his relationship with Beck seem that special if he literally just falls for everyone. And to me Beck was like a rollercoaster for him. So it cant be that heavy for every girl.
Agree so much! It doesn’t feel believable. With Beck it felt like he was truly fixated on and obsessed with HER, which is what made it so interesting. I don’t buy his obsession with the other girls.
@@cutemissbubbly Not believable? It is totally believable, because thats how irrational, mentally unstable persons with mommy/daddy issues do behave. Just look at r/niceguys or r/nicegirls if you want to see examples in the wild. People there even claim to fall in love after just texting 10min with random people. Its totally believable that a guy like Joe, who only experienced toxic relationships and negligence in his life, falls for every random phantasy that pops in his mind. And the whole point of Beck was that she really just was a random girl, even Joe himself admits this in this season. Joe not falling for every random woman would totally undermine the point of his character: Being completely unable to form actual relationships based on a real bond instead of his manic phantasies in his mind.
@@LegioXXI People don't realise that Joe is chasing an IMPOSSIBLE fantasy.He has this ideal perfect girl in his mind and he looks for that in all his obsessions.He will never be fulfilled because he is into the chase and the thrill.Notice how he was complaining that his life with Love and Henry was perfect but boring.He needs to save himself from his demons instead of waiting for a fantasy to swoop in and save him.He also mentioned He waited for His mom to come for him in the group home but she never did.He is still waiting for her but in form of a love interest. People mistake this story for a boy meets perfect girl and she changes him and they live happily ever after.However, that is not reality.Joe is a deeply damaged, psychotic man who will never be content with normal life.
I feel like there’s no way they don’t somehow bring love back . She’s made a huge impact on the show and as an actress lately . What if she in-fact made it out of the house or something.
Love was unhinged, I thought she would let Theo go alive, and that she cared for him because she cared for his brother, but she was just nuts, not that Joe isn't, but in his defence he never planned to live with Love
I'm just hoping that season 4 is gonna be the last season and he gets caught or killed.... Him and Love just annoyed me too much in this season, especially Love, I thought she was so stupid in that season that she deserved to be killed at the end. This show is just getting redundant now
Idk why people are so mad at Love dying, the show’s main character is Joe, he’s got a good amount of plot armor and y’all should’ve seen her death coming, even tho victoria’s acting was amazing, it wasn’t gonna save love
are you fkin kidding me.... everybody is framing love as some crazy impulsive person but i would suggest you to realize what joe actually is..... even after watching three seasons of the same person you still dont realise what is doing, he just makes some fantasy about a women and when they dont meet his standards and is time to see the real world he kills them, love only killed the people who were a threat to her family and joe himself, but he still being his impulsive absurd self didnt realize that she loved him so much, when joe kills for love he has your sympathy but when love kills for love she is crazy a maniac?? and if you want to play the theo card, she stopped him at first but then joe was busy sniffin other girls panties and wasnt even looking at her so she hooked up with him........ and joe has no right to call her a pscho because he is bigger pscho himself
@@emmdear2337 but wouldn't that be even more annoying and predictable? What's the point of having another unlikable love interest like Theo when instead they could actually developed Joe and love in interesting ways and actually make them a "team".
Love is pretty crazy-but she sticks with the person shes with. James didnt want to be with her anymore and she only accidentally killed him. And with Joe, she let him choose. The paralysis was on the knife-he picked it up and thats when Love knew he had to go. Hated Joe this season. But it makes sense. He can never be truly happy because hes just going to forever bounce between new interests and always get them and their friend(s) killed. Love, on the other hand, likes people with problems and doesnt lose interest in the person. Poor Love :(
@@NB-lk7yd but then he didn’t…. That’s what pisses me off the most. I know love is dead ,but I still wanted to continue to see Joe being a dad. It just feels like a cheap way of returning to the status quo of the show. Not sure I’m going to watch the next season
Joe is crazy. Eventually, he would’ve been making up excuses for having his kid help him clean up murders. Or possibly killing in front of Henry and then trying to convince Henry that killing is okay if you have good “intentions”…The best thing Joe could do for the kid is to leave him. The thing that gets me is Joe leaving the kid, but still thinking that he can start over with a “new family” with this Marianne. What if Henry finds him playing house with a new kid?..Joe really is just like his mother.
Loved this season. For some reason I was rooting for love the whole time. Her character in my opinion was brilliant. So sad she got he ending in this season. Really wanted her to become the new psycho protagonist of the show in all honesty instead of joe. Might just be me though lmao.
@@Gemisnotmyname Yeah dude, this season really highlighted just how insane she is and needed to be put down. (As does joe) hes just easier to root for cause he has redeeming qualities! But at the end of the day, he deserves prison or death. As much as I want him to have a happy ending, for all the innocent people he killed he deserves to be locked up!
@@mr.mayhem6755 I liked Love. Joe has less self-awareness of the two of them. He's so dillusional. Have you forgotten how judgemental he is, with the women that he is obsessed with? He literally judges them and then ends up killing them. He's really out of touch with reality...he holds on to this idea that he's a good person. That's the only reason why he sometimes does decent things. Love is a little less judgemental and more likeable when she isn't upset. They are really both awful though.
@@Blazejones31 yes. But maybe he means it like this: she pretended to be poisoned, but she actually also took the antidote. But I don't think that is realistic. Especially because of the high dose, that the she got injected by Joe.
There’s still two open threads I hope they bring back: Theo made a copy of Matthew’s surveillance files and Joe revisiting New York to find his mom and half brother.
Felt the season started out well but then it got ridiculous far too quickly. There were too many dynamics happening, Henry being exposed to measles from Children raised by parents who do not agree with vaccinations, Gil's death, Joe getting to know other guys, Love's affair with Theo, Joe's affair, Exploring a polyamorous relationship, countless of impulsive murders, Marriene's and the detectives didn't bother to suspect how each person who dies was last with Love. The show is repeating always in terms of Joe's obssession and deaths.
If you listen hard, the violin that plays right before Love dies is the same melody as when Beck was pretending to love Joe in the season 1 finale right before she stabs him. Pretty interesting parallel.
What I really missed this season was the connection to previous seasons, and I feel like they had so many opportunities to do so: What happened to Ellie (there is only brief mention of Joe sending money to her)? It would have been great to see her make a comeback to seek revenge for her sister, or to expose Joe to his new friends. Also I thought the death of Delilah and Candace would have caused more trouble, since Joe doesn't actually know how Love got rid of their bodies.. It just seems in this season Joe faces no consequences at all for his past (contrary to season 2 when Candace was following him) and that is a tension that I wanted to see more of
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The reason Joe went to Paris is to look for Marienne. She told Joe she was born in Paris so he thinks she might have fled there.
Glad I’m not the only one seeing the neighbor as Homelander!
You thought this season was the same thing?!? I was shocked there was more murder this season and Joe was a good boy overall
@@galadriellothlorien2188 He mentioned this! Paris is brought up a ton throughout the series to run away to. Literally every season!
You were one of the 1st reviewers that touched on the grass being greener on the other side theory I think Joe has to finally realize that he is the problem lol
Imagine the couples therapist seeing on the news that Love killed Joe and the neighbors after she said neither of you are murderers. Lmaooo
I'd quit my job so damn fast lol. Give myself the Joe treatment. Change my name move to a different city. Change jobs everything
Dallas Howard the “joe treatment” lol
They should have show her reaction
why does she always get involved with dangerous people? first krypton, then kingpin, now this.
@@sn19901 That's where I know her from! Thank you.
Everyone pointing out that Joe's bored easily and always falls for a new person and I agree but to me the additional reason why he can't seem to love Love Quinn is because she is a female reflection of himself and he hates himself
Idk love isn’t a female reflection of himself. She acts impulsively on anyone she doesn’t like he usually has reason (while it is usually crazy) love will kill someone for giving her the wrong coffee
@@Lavagamer123 not exactly in terms of being impulsive, but in a way how they rationalize their killing behaviours. Also Joe is always justifying himself for why he kills someone so the audience would think that its justified, he’s a great manipulator
@@arifahahmad549 Agreed, when she said that he gaslighted her, she wasn't wrong. Not that she was perfect or anything....
Also because he doesn't love people, he loves the IDEA of them, when he sees them for who they are he doesn't like them anymore, hes constantly projecting onto his partners, kind of like having a favorite person
Edit: rewatch season one and look at how he talks about the way he thinks peach wants beck, I'm pretty sure it's there because hes the exact same
yeah he wants a fantasy.. and someone he can save
Cary and sherry, despite them being pretty annoying and the type of pretentious people I despise, they were one of my favorite and funniest characters of this season.
Cary was hilariously funny in a weird way
They actually genuinely loved each other.
@@Tessy29k Sherrys Ear and Carys leg: Are we a joke to you?
i was so fucking happy when they found the key
They ended up being fkn hilarious, but cherry is that bitc* mom others hide from so they won't be judged lol
Am I the only one annoyed by how unhinged and impulsive Love was? Out of rage, she 1. Kills Natalie, 2. Strikes Gil, 3. Shouts out that she killed Natalie when there are two bloody people upstairs. Like holy sheit, she created so much of the problems that occurred in season 3.
That's her thing though she is impulsive Her affair and whatnot really all her actions point to this.
I feel the same way, Love causes all the issues this season and then turns around and blames Joe for her actions. I'm going to miss seeing her in the next season but honestly by the end I was pretty annoyed by her.
4. Almost kills Theo 5. Almost killed marienne, and they both did nothing wrong really. I also hated Joe though. If he wasn’t so weird and obsessive over other woman none of this would happen.
That’s her character, she was obviously supposed to be the main antagonist for season 3, she felt like the joker to joe’s Batman…at least IMO
Omg thank you!!!! I was hoping someone said I hated love this season she was a complete idiot this whole season
I'm just happy the couples councillor made it out safe this time around.
I was sure Love was going to kill her
She was great! Made great points, had the sessions balanced and facilitated breakthroughs.
@@EliSoza23 not so lucky for John Stamos
@@gilbertodepiento8521 well he slept with Beck who was his client so no sympathy from me.
@@gilbertodepiento8521 didnt he go to jail? Also no one deserves to be killed so dont escalate this. We are talking about fictional flawed characters.
loved when Joe finally realized he has mommy issues
💀that shit was funny asf
Shit, same here.
And then, he falls prey of his issues again.
Yeah i think he had some form of character development this season
@@kayla-rae4770 He really didn’t despite trying to change he fell back into his old ways
Didn’t think that by the end I’d be rooting for Sherry and Carey, but I was practically yelling at my screen for them to find the key in the last episode and break out!
Me too!!
For real!!! I HATED Sherry at first! Thought Carry was cool but I wanted Sherry to die honestly but by the end, Im glad they both lived. Joe actually was pretty cool for letting them live. He could have killed them
SAME!!!
Same!!! I am so happy to hear others feel this way!
@RunningOnEmpty Right!
Victoria Pedretti is amazing! It’s the look she gives right before she flips, it’s CRAZY! I was scared for everyone
She was perfect for the role. Sad to see her go
I thought her facial expressions throughout was exceptional!
@@09williamsr yes! You could see the sadness and craziness in her expressions.
@@frozenyogurt98 First time I ever rooted for a psycho 🤣
Omg yes! Everytime I saw THAT craziness in her eyes I knew that she was gonna kill somebody. It’s amazing. Victoria has really great acting skills, although she sees herself as a basic actress, and gets really emotional when people told her she’s special and does something unique and memorable in acting :(
Raise your hand if you binged it in one go ✋🏻 Man that was a crazy ride… I loved Theo, Marianne & Dante this season. Good characters all around. Solid ending. It’a hard to follow up the brilliance of S1 & 2 but I still enjoyed it!
👋🏽👋🏽 yep whole season one watch
✋🏻 me
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Yes I just finished it.😂
✋
Watching this series made me forget there was 2 others before it it’s just felt like it was a brand new show again
True!
Soo true. The writers did the damn thing
Was a great series 3 👍
These writers and actors are just top notch this season exceeded my expectations 💯
@fright car don’t get me wrong they’re parts where I was like wait what’s happening but at the same time it’s nice to feel confused and have to piece things together like it makes it interesting if I could guess the plot from the very start then it’ll all be a predictable shit show really
Not gonna lie. I enjoyed this season a lot.
⤴️⤴️ let him know I directed you
I would go so far and say it is the best season so far.
I didn't want it to end😭😭😭
I didn't, it makes me angry, love didn't deserve this! 🤬🤬
@@HUYI1 she did killed her ex husband James after successfully fighting cancer. That’s kinda mess up tbh. They both deserve to die, but I was still team Joe throughout the whole season. I like how he thinks ahead, and how smart he is. Also I like how he’s a book reader just like myself. Not too many people read books anymore
I don’t understand why people are sort of complaining or bummed that season 3 was so different from seasons 1 and 2. I mean Joe was a single man in seasons 1 and 2 who would get obsessed with women. In season 3 he was married and a father of course it was going to be different especially with Love being so impulsive. I thought season 3 was brilliant, and can’t wait for season 4.
I agree best season yet! I almost felt season 1 and 2 where anti-climatic and had a couple of twists. I think maybe it depends on your relationship status as well. those who are single and trying to date probably related more to seasons 1 and 2 are rather more creepy to them. Those who are/been married, or are/have been in long-term relationship can relate more to season 3 is rather more creepy.
100 agreed! And people are not understanding the psychology of the characters, and reading between the lines.
Some people just aren't into content about married life. Watching a couple (mostly Love) trying desperately to make a marriage work that was only held together in the beginning by a baby is a bit of a bummer. Though its You so there is still plenty bits of the show to like. That and the new cast members. I loved that Scott Speedman and Tati Gabrielle were in the show.
I agree when I actually gave season 3 a chance I ended up really enjoying it. The differences are welcome BUT I do also think the vibes I got from season 1 & 2 were better and they had loads more interesting themes
@@riripari2042 That's the thing about the show that is real too. People in long term relationships often stay together way too long for the sake of the baby. Often times them staying together for the sake of a baby but it can be rather more damaging for the baby. There are so many one sided marriages like theirs where one it trying to make things work but the other is just frankly against them. This show true side of how marriages can be. It's not just happily ever after its work and often times it's the blame game to people. It's their fault you're not happy but it's your fault your not happy. Being held together becasue of a babby is a bummer is it quite the reality for a lot of people.
at this point Joe needs to love himself and stop being so desperate and attached to everyone except his mental health 😭
@@chowderscrib he gone look at the prison guard and be like “hello you” 😩💀
@@digitaldiary627 That's a season 5 spoiler
He has attachment issues fr lol Love annoyed the shit out of me this season she literally made Joe look less bad of a person and that takes alot 🤣
@@gabrielladouglas8849 FORREAL, when she hit that dude with a bat I was like yo..that was NOT necessary 😭 then Theo’s ass like GIRL
@@digitaldiary627 NOOOLMAOOO
rich how joe said that he is monogamous but he easily changes his feeling for one girl to another, he was obsessed with natalie, then back to love then somehow in love with marriene, like pick a struggle
exactly what i was thinking when he said that 😭
@fright car I don’t think so. Marienne’s character had too much depth to be a last minute decision. It’s clear that as time progresses, the show is gradually trying to show the audience how Joe came to be, while slowly forcing Joe to face his past and realize that he has serious issues. The fact that he has so much in common (past-wise) with Marienne kind of adds to that in addition to all the orphanage flashbacks, not to mention Joe probably sees in Marienne the choice to be there for her child in spite of her issues that his mother didn’t make for him. I could honestly see him chasing her an expedition to him finally receiving consequences for his actions, because even with her finding out what he is; he seems to have a HUGE Achilles heel for vulnerable children and I don’t see him intentionally killing her with her being her child’s only surviving parent. Especially after how he reacted to Love killing Delilah.
I think there was just a lot going on this season in general, so it was harder to really focus on Joe and his individual problems, and subsequently adequately fleshing out Marienne’s character.
None of it is real love though; Joe's just in love with the idea of love, and gets obsessed easily.
Yea Joe got really annoying in season 3, I was really hoping he'd get better and finally stop stalking women. I hope they change it up in season 4 cuz the stalking women thing is getting a bit old
@fright car Yea honestly my preferred ending would've been Joe dying at the hands of Love, it just feels poetic. Either that or him finally finding happiness by himself, there's no in between for me.
I think for season 4, we need a crossover where Joe becomes obsessed with Emily from "Emily In Paris." This is the crossover we didn't know we needed LOL
🤣🤣
Is that show still a thing? Watched one episode it was almost physically repulsive, who the fuck would fund a continuation?
omygosh yes
ew but yet again only a psychopath would be interested in emily
Yup. It's getting another season. That's the world we live in lol
I just finished it; this is by far the craziest season. I believe this is binge-worthy for anyone who likes that psychological thriller films.
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it's not psychological thriller film. it was a comedy dude... you have no idea what psychological thriller! this shows is a joke
The best season of You so far
@@carteralita5377 😂 I am sorry this Netflix show did not meet your ideal psychological thriller standards. It's really not that deep. This show is just a good adaptation from the book I read years before it came out as a mainstream show. Just because it is part of a specific genre does not mean it is the best thing out there.
Nah this season was seriously dumb plus that whole vaccine bs smh season two with 40 was the epitome of it
I know this show IS about Joe, but I just feel like Love is such a tough act to follow 😭
i love her
@@keniaamaya6858 too late to say spoiler😂
@@keniaamaya6858 love cheated too. Both of them cheated each other.
@@jasmin2678 YES i litterally love her and so sad she died:(
@@neximus672 agreed😅can’t wait for season 4
I was literally screaming "WHY CANT Y'ALL JUST BE HAPPY FOR FUCKS SAKE" through out the whole season😩😩
YES! and why, after their couple theraphy session why they stay on that suburbn, why they dont move back to LA
SAME. THEY WERE BOTH PSYCHOS AND PERFECT FOR EACH OTHER. JUST STAY HAPPY MAHN
Yall do understand why Joe fell out of love right?
You expect normalcy from two Psychos🤨?
@@jamaledwards8118 in season 2, the moment he knew she was exactly like him.
Love even said at the end that “this wouldn’t be happening if you didn’t go for the weapon” implying that she put the poison on the knife and didn’t poison the food or anything. Didn’t pick that up at first
no way, i only understand now that you explain it
@@tiffanytiany6944 omg me too just had an “ahhh” moment
But she touched it too 🤔
@@klaraj.3288 I thought so at first but in the video he pointed out that she had a rag or like mitt on the handle of the knife never actually putting skin to it. But Joe straight grabbed that mf 😂😂
@@tiffanytiany6944 i thought that line was important Bc i first heard her say it but still thought she poisoned the food or something. Until I watched this breakdown I was like “ahhhhhh the knife handle”
i feel like they originally wanted joe to lose his finger then realised how much of a pain that would be to do prosthetics every season so they took his toes because he can just wear shoes
He already lost one in the second season
he got it reattached
why the fuck would he want to lose his finger over a toe lmao he only needed some dna of him on the crime scene
The reason Joe went to Paris is to look for Marienne. She told Joe she was born in Paris so he thinks she might have fled there.
I really hope he doesn't find her. It would be really sad if he kills her and leaves her little girl an orphan.
Mmm very good question!! That's why I was like why France Paris??? Yes thats right I forgot that part😄
She also said that she wanted to go back and live out her life there
Ohh yeah! Good shout!
yeah obviously… that was a really big part of the show. she said if she didn’t think her crazy ex husband would find her there, she would flee there if she ever wanted to escape.
Sherry surviving and Love killing her first husband were the biggest twists for me this season. I didn't think Sherry would make it 😂
Her unhinged self. She was annoying.. lol
I thought sherry would have died earlier in the season ngl because she gave off the paige vibe
I feel like most people believed she killed her first husband before season 3 your the first person who I’ve heard it was a plot twist 😭
@@kennedyfoxx4786 yeah like we been knew 😭
I'm just surprised they didn't bring ellie back this season. Seems like they missed a perfect plot opportunity. I hope they incorporate her in season 4
It's kinda scaring how people are not criticizing Joe's sociopathy more. Now Love is no angel but Joe emotionally manipulated Love, while chasing not one but TWO women! It was ok for Joe to kill and manipulate but when Love does it, she's a monster?
I really hoped this season would do a better job of holding a mirror up to Joe, but it seems like the show runners were trying too hard to make him a sympathetic character by bashing us over the head with those childhood flashback scenes every two seconds.
Joe doesn't love any of these women. He projects an image onto them, then gets mad when they don't act how he wants them to, and paints then as monsters to rationalize throwing them away like hot garbage. He spends so much time criticizing everyone else but neglects to point out that hes a manipulative sociopath, who loves the idea of love more than the women he chooses to obsess over. When you think about it from a real world perspective, there are actually guys out thrre who rationalize violent behavior towards women, and get away with it. It's scary as fuck.
Sums it all in one, 👏👏👏 I'm getting ever fustrated with season 3 because of this reason! I will not be back for season 4! 🤬😡😡
You are exactly right. I think their attraction to him makes them forget sometimes that we are watching from the perspective of a serial killer and stalker. It’s interesting to see how many people are excited Love died, but don’t want Joe to die as though he’s just some innocent love struck, good guy who only kills “bad people”.
i think some people ( not me) are sympathetic woth joe because of seeing it from his POV and how he sees Love as being crazy when she's just doing what he was/is. I don't think it's because Love is a woman. They did act very similarly but Love was very impulsive and that was annoying for some viewers but it is just a show.
@@HUYI1 oh no😱 how are they gonna live with one less viewer ?!?!?
Love is just annoying and impulsive, also joe is trying to be a better guy, but she keeps fucking him over. This has nothing to do with gender, keep it out of it.
I love how love’s characters is the embodiment of love. The impulsiveness, the rationalizing, the devotion, the timidness, and the boldness, she would go to the ends of the earth for joe, the delusion, the rage, the fear… love’s character is a magnitude of things
That’s the only redeeming part about her character i swear lol
That's not love. That's obsession lol
@@ParadoX-os No. That’s love. Don’t let the modern psychobabble that love is only “kind and patient” 🤮 fool you- Love is burning hot on both ends of the spectrum. It can make you peaceful and it can make you crazy lol.
@@whitneyangelie3682 I would suggest looking up the definition of obsession. But either way we can both agree that whether you want to call it love or obsession, it is not healthy.
@@ParadoX-os I think it’s the codependent unhealed aspect of it that makes it unhealthy. For me I love intensely, of course not as much as love and and joe, but the passion I feel for my parter is a fire within. Yes I feel rage at times, delusional, sometimes even obsessive. Love can do that to you, there’s so many things that go into what love is… I didn’t mean love is killing off anyone who hurts you, or being manipulative, and controlling.
My favourite part was when Joe answers Marianne call, talk about the badness in people (Ryan) and gets excited about the future he and Marianne could have because "they are good people", while holding a shovel to bury a teenager in the basement of her wife's bakery, laughing maniacally.
Theo did not like his other mother . He kept saying I don’t want to go back there . What if he is related to Joe.. which can explain why Joe let him live . What if Joe saved his own brother and didn’t even know
This needs more attention. Would be crazy !
Dudeeeeeee this would be such a good twist!!!!
theo's mom is called mimi. yeah, she could've changed her name, but she would be a lot older than matthew if they were ever married, and it doesn't seem like his type to date older women. also the math isn't mathing with theo's age and the kid's, theo is just 18-19 while the other kid might be a bit older (joe's already on his early/mid 30s)
i think people want to show the mom so bad and are just creating weird, unbased theories like the one that the neighbor (natalie) was the mom lol like what are the odds of that happening
That's a amazing theory because they did cast a guy (theo) who has a similar look to Joe
I'm convinced Marianne is related to Peach because of the resemblance and the family in Paris thing.
i'm so glad someone else noticed it, when joe found the pictures in ryan's book i thought they were peach at first glance
That seems like a huge stretch
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I noticed the resemblance too!!
YES I SAW THAT TOO
I can’t believe this dude left his child for a girl he’s just gonna get bored of and find someone else to stalk. Does he expect Marianne to welcome him with open arms when he’s supposed to be dead!
He didn't exactly leave him for her, he left him because he thought he would be better off without him and how messed up he is.
He actually planned to leave with him since he thought Love was bad for Henry but he then eventually realized that he is also bad for Henry.
The kid is better off without him and honestly will grow up happy with Dante & his husband.
Joe left for Paris for a new beginning. And that kid is better off alone than with Joe
You completely missed the point
Sherry and Carey in the cage was hilarious!!! Man I’m glad they got away and I hated them both in the beginning! 😂😂😂 Stop complaining ppl, it was still a good season!
True. Them in the cage was funny. I'm happy they survived
The cage scenes...were epic. Those two acted their tails off
.and we are grateful..lol
When he accidentally shot her ear 🤣
I didn’t like how Joe just kind of stopped talking about needing to take care of Ellie. Now that he’s in France- who’s taking care of her? Where does she get her money? Does she come back?
I do want to see Jacob brought in- I’m just not sure how. Hopefully they do a good job at wrapping it up. Netflix has a big problem with leaving plot holes for a quick wrap up.
Who is Jacob?
@@giuliarosingana2634 could be wrong but I think he was Joe's co- worker from season 1 not a particularly interesting character so no idea why someone would want to see him again
@@giuliarosingana2634 nah Jacob is his...brother? There was a scene when young Joe went to find his mum and saw her with a younger child called Jacob.
@@hethen5846 im pretty sure his coworker from season 1 was named ethan
@@insigniaac are you talking about paco?
Joe killing Love at the end of Season 3 was absolutely inevitable. It's set up at the end of Season 2. He hates her and only stays with her for their child and was literally a split second from killing her when she told him about the pregnancy. Of course, if he were to simply end it, as he tried to, she was always going to try to kill him because she would never risk him exposing her past.
I agree with everything, although I feel like she would never let him leave simply because she thought they were “perfect for each other”. She simply would never let him leave because she loves control.
I really hope Love isn't dead, I really didn't feel like her story was finished. & I personally found her 100x more interesting than Joe. AT least she cared about her marriage and her family, Joe just wanted to find new people all the time. He'll never be satisfied with one person.
i agree
She cared about her marriage by fucking Theo? She kept fucking that poor boy and had no qualm killing him. And killing anyone for no reason. She was an annoying and undisciplined killer.
Love annoyed me and women like her annoys me too. Marienne was right, Love needs to love herself and stop obsessing over killing for a man she doesn't even like.
@Nay Daloner She didn't like Joe, she said it herself. But she won't let anyone have him. I didn't want Joe to go after Marianne at first, but once Love started messing with Theo, I was I didn't mind it. And Joe had made progress too: he dialed out his creepy habit of collecting his crushes' personal items. He's also very reluctant to kill. The only person he killed this season is Ryan, a questionable person himself, and even then killing him wasn't Joe's first intention.
I was so much more invested in loves story than joes this time around. I was rooting for her 🥲
Can’t believe Love had the balls to kill Homelander’s wife
I knew i wasn't the only one who saw the resemblance
They look so similar! Glad someone else is a fan of the boys
😆😆😆Right
It's not homelander, it's Bazz from Animal kingdom tv show
Lmfao.
This series is just unexpected, I usually like to predict movies or series but this series make me questioned myself what will happen next after episodes. Damn...
Mm I kinda expected som things before they happened
@@justdiego5322 yeah most of it was written on the walls
Yea but sometimes I just overthink it, like I knew its going to happen but what if not? Smth like that😅
Unexpected??????
@@dmcfail987 bru chill its just an opinion😶✌
This season was AMAZING. Victoria Pedretti's acting was so good. I actually hated her character so much!! The darker hair and make up helped. She looked stunning this season!
She looked so much better this season! I was saying I didn’t realize she was so
Pretty until now.
Seriously, Exile by Taylor Swift and Bon Iver was the BEST choice for THAT moment in the season finale.
It fit so perfectly with Love and Joe’s constant turmoil with them always being on different pages, getting increasingly frustrated and always at the tipping point, then the comparisons to Love and every other woman that Joe has obsessed over and ultimately, killed (or attempted to).
Everyone needs to really listen to that amazing song and the lyrics. It’s beautiful.
Here are just a few of the lyrics that I think fit them perfectly but honestly the whole song does.
“I think I’ve seen this film before, and I didn’t like the ending. I’m not your homeland anymore, so who am I defending now? You were my town, now I’m in exile seeing you out.”
“I think I’ve seen this film before, and I’m leaving out the side door.”
“We always walked a very thin line. You didn’t even hear me out. You never gave a warning sign (I gave so many signs).”
I BAWLED at this song playing
Yesss !!!
I agree! My heart broke when Exiled played and it hit differently now after listening to it on loop after finishing You. The song somehow "explained" what the both felt and made Love understandable despite her aggressive and implusive side.
YESSSSSS
Girl!! I was tearing like a baby!! It somewhat summed up life in a way for me. Like sometimes you could love someone so much but you too are just on different courses in life.
I disagree that Joe doesnt think 5 minutes ahead of a murder. Love is the emotional and impulsive one, killing people without regard for consequences. Joe is usually way more thoughtful
It’s super interesting to me that so many people could sympathize with Joe in the previous seasons but now are finding him to be awful. Personally I’ve had the opposite feeling. In the first two seasons I was super put off by him and his obsessive behaviour and murder etc. this season there were lots of glimpses of him going in a better direction but every time he got closer to being better, Love did something impulsive that pulled him back. At the beginning of the season he had the opportunity to sleep with Natalie and rejected her because he felt a loyalty to Love despite her killing one of his only friends, and his moral compass was beginning to guide him in a better direction (again obviously still unfaithful and a bad decision but improvement from what he has done in the past) Love then kills her and makes him clean up the whole mess and proceeds to sleep with Natalie’s step son. He constantly says “this is the last time” to Henry only for Love to kill someone else for being an antivaxxer 😂 if you listen to Joe’s dialogues there are times where he tries to recommit to Love and their marriage saying things like “I don’t deserve her” “ she’s such a good wife I need to do better as a husband father” and then she does the next insane thing that pushes him further away.
The other character arc for Joe that I found slightly redeeming this season was the way he fell for Marianne. When he first met Marianne he didn’t give her the time of day. He was in the library because he was following Natalie, chasing an image of a woman who he didn’t even know. His typical love at first sight pattern. He had no interest in Marianne at all at first. He developed a relationship with Marianne because they had similar pasts, similar interests and relatable life experiences. He fell in love with her because he was able to connect with her, not the image of her he created through stalking her social media or creating a caricature of her in his mind. This was the first time you see Joe really see the real person and her real flaws (addiction) and still accept them. This is a drastic departure from Love and I think shows how Love taught him to look at the person right in front of him instead of “staring at a goddamn fantasy” as she said in season 2.
I loved the scenes where you saw him tempted to take something of Marianne’s but then puts it back like the bracelet. Also when he’s searching through her office computer and goes into her desk, there is a box of tampons. Every woman he has been obsessed with previously he takes a used tampon as a screwed up keepsake. It stood out to me that this recurring object was both unused and left behind. It’s was sort of a foreshadowing to me that she wouldn’t die because there was no blood. In that scene he says he’s done with Marianne because his image of her is “damaged” when he found out she was an addict but then when he gets to know the real Marianne he realizes her flaws are what make her a woman he cares for. This is why he was able to share that he murdered before with her (even though he only confessed to one of many) This is the total opposite of every other Woman Joe has been obsessed with. He creates and image of them that he wants AND he curates an image of himself to present where as with Marianne we see him give her little bits of truth and accepting her flaws whereas he resented flaws in his previous victims.
I hope these brief glimmers of development continue in season 4 because lord knows Joe has a ton of work left to do on himself but if you look closely Marianne is slightly different than the others and I don’t find his pursuit of her to be repetitive or a part of his typical pattern. Another break from the repetition is that Marianne’s daughter is the first child that doesn’t seem to like Joe. A bit part of his character is that he is a protector especially of children, both Marianne’s daughter and Henry constantly crying or uneasy with Joe is symbolic of his image of himself as a noble protector of fragile things beginning to shatter and starting to see his true self. I would love to see a development where he turns himself in rather than getting caught, where he grows to a point where he can truly realize where he has gone wrong instead of seeking justification in everything he’s done. I think Marianne, Will Bettleheim, Dante, Ellie and Paco are all characters that have and hopefully will in future seasons lead Joe to the realization that he needs help. Joe has so many conversations with himself where he seeks to be a good person but he doesn’t have the tools by himself. I think it would be great to have a couple more seasons where he grows slightly (but is still crazy enough to have some suspense) but ultimately admits to everything because he will eventually realize it is the right thing to do.
Thanks for coming to my TedTalk 😂
I agree 💯
great Analysis of joe’s character!
THIS. 100% all the reasons I am quietly rooting for Joe lol. And liked this season more than the others. Love's character was also played amazingly, but she was never the protagonist of this series. I didn't feel like she "deserved" to die as people have said lol...but I did not feel sad when she died. This isn't about a beautiful love story people! 😂
I agree with you
SAAAAME. I had the complete opposite feeling. I despised him, wanted him locked up. I'm looking at the comments and thinking "now, y'all realizing he's a psycho, he's toxic?"
The heartbreak of seeing his mom move on with a new child 💔 love is an awesome character but ugh she was so messy and blamed everything on Joe. Glad the couple made it out the cage. I low key was happy that shes gone just wish Joe kept Henry instead of chasing Marianne he was showing character development by trying hard not to kill especially letting the go of theo
Yea, I was disappointed how little into fatherhood he was when he found out it was a boy instead of a girl. Like only a baby girl was deserving of his protection and love. I get that woman are really the objects of his affection/obsession but we forget he did have a little boy that he helped take care of in season 1 so I don't get the hesitation with his own son, but whatever. And you complain about abandonment only to do the same to your kid. Loving adoptive parents or not that history will still royally mess him up once he finds out who his mother was and how she killed half the people in town, then completed an alleged murder-suicide with his father as another casualty.
Joe is equally as fucked up and horrible as love
Omg I found that scene so sad too!! When hes like why do you look after him and not me 😥 the joe kid actor did such a good job !
@@Bree5three Good point👌
@@katscandance True💯
I have the feeling that Joe just cant be happy. If he is in a good situation and his loved one doesn’t need protection, he chases after another.
Cause he doesn't love them. He isn't capable of loving.
He’s simply just chasing his fantasies he’s not capable of truly loving someone.
That's because he doesn't know what love is. He only knows lust and obsession
He has issues.. that's why.
That’s the thing with serial killers, they don’t know how to stop, since they will never be able to get what they need. They can’t be healed.
That’s what I like about this show. We’re getting an in depth look at a serial killer.
Anyone thinks that this season was way more brutal and mature than season 1 and 2? Cause I was left with big scars from this. At the beginning I was just thinking "aww, look how sweet are Love, Joe and little Henry together, like a family!" and then it got darker like "You" always does and the murderers started, so msny this time.
I thought we knew everything about Joe's childhood but seeing so many new flashbacks in this season just made a lot of sense, made me think we knew nothing about Joe, even though we listened to his inner monologue every time. The reason he was so afraid of being abandoned, the reason he's killing every bad person. I wish we knew what happened to his mom though cuz at this point I wouldn't be suprise to find that Joe killed her and her new son. And when the fu*k is Joe gonna learm that things ARE actually gonna be the same everytime?!
So many twisted news this season too. I really didn't wanna believe Love killed James. I mean, they seemed so happy, he was such a good man and Love didn't kill people she loves... But that changed in this season, my whole perspective changed. Now I can't stop wondering who is crazier, Joe or Love?
At least, in the end Joe realized he's gotta save Henry from him and he left him with a beautiful family where he knew he'd be loved. Remains to be seen if Joe will find Marianne in Paris or find another obsession and continue it all over... Though, I'd like him to have a stalker of himself, a person who became obsessed with him the same way he does, a manipulative person who can show him how obsessive and sick he is. Now, the story of Nick will begin, soon.... :)
I agree, this season left a way bigger impact on me than the first two, I'm still processing everything that happened.
S3 >>>>> S1&2
@@irgendwoaunid4048 same i still cant believe Love is dead. But I hope she survive, i hope Theo's father or maybe Marienne save her.
Didn’t the police officer in s2 kinda of stall Joe and the guy with all the cctv in season 3 ?
i’ve always known love was crazy, since the very first time she made it on screen in season 2. i never liked her and i’m really thankful that she’s dead. i hope she stays dead and there isn’t some way she survived. she was soooo annoying and impulsive this entire season, and in season 3 as well. i think season four will go something like this: joe will find a new obsession in paris and they’ll get together, but then mid season, marienne will show up and there’s gonna be a lot of conflict in that way. idk how everything will play out but i think it’s gonna be something along those lines.
Def agree, 1st and 2nd season was 10/10, but the 3rd season was meh. I felt like they could have ended it right there too. Hearing that there will be a 4th season coming out, makes it sound like its going to be not great. The one thing that boggles my mind is Natalie's car is a tesla which literally records 24/7 and her husband was a tech guy who was watching the city with cameras. Why didn't he just tap into the tesla cameras? lol
Nah also if he was so clever and had sone sooo much checking like he said, how did he not see the camera footage that his son did ?
@@Kingston997 Well for awhile it was his secret project and he was going through hours of footage alone. When you get bogged down or even sometimes thinking you know it all it's always helpful to get a fresh pair of eyes and different perspective. So that's what the son offered.
@@Kingston997 he was sleep deprived, anxious and grieving. It's understandable he missed a few tiny details hell I almost missed it when it showed it because it was so small and subtle.
Because then the plot wouldn’t work. The really should of just changed wat car she drove and we wouldn’t have these questions. Then again, This show is obviously fictional so they can do whatever they want. Maybe in this universe where madre Linda exists, Tesla’s don’t save camera footage.
There are alot of plot holes in season 3 to be honest this season was ok I don't like how Joe abandon his son so easily like this season was Repetitive and all over the place it shouldn't be a season 4
I feel like there were too many random murders in this season lol
It's because of Love
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U just don't recognize good writing
YES
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If u think that was bad then u haven't seen bad writing
Way more people survived than I was expecting!
This the only season of any show I ever finished watching in one day 🤣🤣🤣 I loved ittttt !!! And I literally want season 4 right NOW 🤣 love is dead omg 🤦🏾♀️😩
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Righttt lol
Same
@@gavinseetaram5249 up l
You are truly beautiful
Pretty honest review I was skipping through a lot of unnecessary plot but the end kept you hooked till you realize how deflating it is that he basically learned nothing and became the parent he despised but they still make it enjoyable to watch
Thank you the whole season is literally bland and dumb. Why kill off the lady in the beginning
I agree, it had so much unnecessary plots in the middle, don’t get me wrong I loved S 1 and 2 but this one idk. It felt rushed.
@@flyingsoul7147 it’s so not bland 😭😭 more interesting and unique than any season and any show. u sound miserable
@@entekz3036 this was the best season by a mile
@@loganklein5031 fr
Just finished the season, pleased how it wrapped up. Glad to see Love get her demise. I will say since the news broke for season 4 being renewed. To me season 4 has to end with Joe’s demise. From my point of view Joe will never find the right person and i think going this route would benefit the show.
Nah not death. I want at least 5 seasons before it's end lol
Sorry to say but love got what she was coming to her she wasn't my favorite and I agree I'm sure Joe won't find the one at all I have an feeling the last season would be s4 or 5
I feel like this show will have 5 seasons
I think they should go "breaking bad style" and that in 5th season joe ends up getting arrested and sent to jail. I really liked season 3(Didnt enjoy it as much as the first two bcuz it took them 18 months to realese season3) but still very good charachters and ending was amazing!
Ellie should come back next season
I really liked the dynamic between Joe and Love. I liked how they were into it together, and how that plays out. But again it becomes about Joe being obsessed with a new girl (the chemistry was super forced) which at this point ur just like dude come the fuck on were tired of this. I would have rather Joe and Love actually started to heal their interior issues, but now they have to deal w what theyve done & are on the run because of the things they did along the way. Forcing them back into their killing ways.
That’s kind of the point though. They’re sociopaths irrationally chasing something they can never have.
@@joshdeveaux6936 it is irrational because the purpose of their actions is set by their passion, which is temporary, deadly, destructive and never an end in itself.
i get that completely.
but the entire plot line of the show is that Joe sees himself as perfect and morally straight. so when he’s w someone who is just as deranged as he is, it shocks him and makes him fearful. he seeks out “beautifully broken” girls and love was broken… but she didn’t have this innocence and naivety to her like Beck did. he chases the impossible and even when Beck did have flaws to her… he kinda blew them up. he will constantly chase what he cannot have. that’s the entire point. it’s not meant to be comfortable. he doesn’t see himself as a killer which his why they cannot have the “bonnie and clyde” dynamic.
I think you missed the point of the show and joes character
@@joshdeveaux6936 Nobody is missing "the point", it's very easy to get.
But the problem is that "the point" could be presented in a better and smarter way, not like this Marianne & Theo BS
I preferred the first two seasons, this one was literally just love killing people and joe helping to cover it up lol
Love was my favourite character in S2, but she was the worst here. I'm kinda glad she got burned up. She deserved it.
Agreed. The other seasons were filled with so many plot twists but this one felt super predictable to me. I don't think I'll be interested enough to watch season 4
@@joshuamilbecka that's probably why their going got a fresh start type of thing
Love killed one person in this season tho lol
@@CMVMic But she kept on assaulting people just because she couldn't deal with her own stupid insecurities. And I notice that she only ever attacks when people have their backs turned. It's so cowardly.
Season 3 would’ve honestly been a good end to the series.
Under different circumstances of course.
Yes
I thought that too and it kinda bothers me because I feel like the actual ending to the series won’t be as interesting
Yeah I feel like it’s kinda being dragged out now. I do wanna see Joe go to jail though.
Yes I was thinking the same kinda disappointed we didn’t get a clue of what was next like last season lol.
It should have ended with both of them being discovered and either going to jail or killed
Really enjoyed this season delving into the psyche of Love and Joe and their fates tied to their own self awareness and introspection
Joe is NOT self aware. Everything he despises about Love are things he himself is. Joe is the king of projection, and gaslighting
@@im_a_chair5556 He very much is this season. He faces the face he is not a good person that hes attracted to damaged people due to his tumultuous childhood and experiences and that he is the source of most of problems
@@Argos-xb8ek he literally acknowledged why he chases woman then proceeded to do exactly that and still never once acknowledged he's just as bad as love. Joe has no self-awareness because if he did a lot of this wouldn't have happened and he would have lived happily ever after with love.
@@calvintyler9281 He literally checked off the definition of self awareness this season in his actions.
Im so sad when I saw Love died and would never see her in this show again
@Urban E LMAO Yeah I know I know,but I just feels like in the end she just Love JOE too much(but you're right,we shouldn't love someone or hate someone too much to hurt Him/Her.
But I think Love truly wants to be a good mother.
Not sad, cause the ending was good. But I actually like Victoria Pedretti as an actress a lot, and not seeing her in season 4, has some weight on it.
I’m gonna miss her
To be honest was kind of hoping Joe would kill himself in the end sorry if what I said bothers you that’s just how I feel
yeah, we all gonna miss Victoria, for sure ❤
is the name Love Quinn a reference to Harley Quinn?? As in joe and love are basically joker and harley: psychotic, crazy, and toxic asf. oh and murderers
👍🏽 I was thinking same thing
Didnt like the love and Theo thing going on. Felt like it could have been cut out and have more time of Joe with Natalie so her death could have been more meaningful. Joe and the librarian had literally no chemistry it was just like “shit we killed the neighbor too early who else can we bring. I know the library that had 2 seconds in episode 1.” They should have cut her out and made Love stalk someone else this time around while Joe seems to have changed but at the end kill love for another “you”
Them switching roles would have been a great plot twist. Especially because Love was super unhinged this season.
Honestly feel the same! Theo/Love just didnt feel right
the theo thing was off tbh
Yes but y’all need to realize that it might have been necessary because Theo still has a copy of the video of how Natalie was killed so maybe that might help next season hopefully Joe gets caught
@@Lulu-nf8gx I was thinking about that when Joe let him go like dang that’s gonna bite him later.
I think this season is the best so far. I know that's probably a controversial opinion but the characters were on point, and so was the plot lines. Sherry, Cary, and Theo ruled this season
Taylor's Exile song in the last episode was top notch!
I understand why Joe came to despise Love as she was basically a reflection of the qualities he hates most in himself, but FJFFHH it bothers me so much that things didn't work out between them because Love is right - they are literally SO perfect for eachother
SPOLERS (sorta)
IMO, I feel like the script was changed half way through writing, to change the gender of the baby and also undermining Joe and Nat's romance by him moving onto another person. It just shows how the writers didn't really have a straight forward plan after season 2 (Yes, I felt like the pandemic definitely affected the show and the script.) It was a good season not the best tho
I felt like Joe wanted a girl because a son would remind him too much of himself, which scared him. I also thought Natalie was a good way to add the suspense of everyone trying to find out if they’ll find out or not. Kind of like the pee in the first season & another thing (??) in the second. Idk that’s just how I took it! But I totally see this too.
Right. The script felt everywhere and it was a blood fest for absolutely no reason.
I started thinking that too as I was watching. I studied Media and script writing and I I definitely sensed a different vibe
@@jordy13xoxo17 guide them up
THIS!!!!
Obviously if you pay close attention a lot of their environment is empty so that felt off. But their interactions and all just looked awkward, I'm not sure if they forgot how to hold the characters personalities, but some of it felt forced. Also them Love killing nonstop? She was crazy but they made her look unhinged. I wonder if motherhood just fucked with her brain
plot twist: “You” will pull a Riverdale and make the show supernatural, Marienne is actually Prudence and she’s gonna kill Joe in exchange for Sabrina Spellman’s resurrection.
It’ll ruin the whole show 😂
@@bri_brigutierrez3822 it's a joke lmao
unpopular opinion* I don't think that joe and Marianne had a love connection at all. I would've liked this season so much better if it just ended with joe behind bars!
They seemed genuine to me
I honestly couldnt care less about the death of Natalie. We never got to know her.
This season was a huge departure for the series IMO. The first to seasons followed very similar formats. While this season just went completely off there rails.
Yet people are saying the show is repetitive. I don’t get it. I though this was the best season personally.
@@matthewmower2071 I mean, it is kind of repetitive. Someone always ends up the in cage, Joe(and love) get super close to being caught but then fix the whole situation. Etc.
@@matthewmower2071 exactly, same thoughts here
This season was pretty funny too
@@matthewmower2071 It's not the show specifically, it's JOE and his actions. It's the same cycle with him. Meet a girl, get obsessed, stalk her and kill of any threats, then WHEN she disappoints him, kill her. The only deviation was Love. She was the wildcard that made the season crazy. I think Joe should of died instead. I don't see what else can happen with the character because he just repeats the same cycle over and over. Whereas Love is insane to the point you can't predict what she'll do next.
When Love hunts Natalie and kills her was a nice horror like scene.
This was definitely the season where I thoroughly hated Joe and realized how deep into his own self righteousness he was. Candace wanted him to finally look in the mirror and see the monster he truly is: But even when he was self aware he wasn't really. Made the same excuses and the same mistakes. I found it funny that he finally realized his dating pattern in this season at least (via mommy issues) but not actually breaking it. This man is back on his bullshit. I think this season was imperfect but put the final nail in the coffin for how the audience *should* see Joe. Season one and two still lured you in with the charisma that he inflicts on his victims but this season made me absolutely disgusted with him. Knowing Penn wanted the audience to see Joe for the bad person he is - I think it finally shows here. The excuses, the justifications, and charm are running dry the more we dive into his psyche. If that was the goal for the writers this season I'd say that's the best thing to come out of it. I don't even know if having another season is a great idea at this point unless we finally see justice for everything Joe has done.
I guess there will be a season 4, and in season five Joe will have to deal with the murder issues.
@@ernesto.carloz I figured there *would* be another season. 😅 Just don't want the show to lose its magic by trying to milk out a franchise. I started to feel that already this season as much as I still enjoyed it. However they decide to wrap it up I hope it's satisfying and conclusive, you know? There's quite a few plot holes to fill that I hope they didn't forget.
Joe is literally a psychopathic murderous stalker. He always has been, always will be otherwise it’d be a different show… imagine if dexter stopped killing people.
@@slowmomma7222 Really? Literally? 😃 Talk about a spoiler.
I'm not actually upset about Joe being a killer in the show, I hope you know that. I'm saying the show did a good job at evoking the proper reaction because the general consensus before were people over empathizing with Joe and forgetting he's actually a horrible person. Evoking strong emotion and debate about a character is a sign of a good show. That's not the problem. When I said it's an "imperfect" season, it's that I can already see that the show itself is becoming a little gimmicky and losing potency. Which sucks because I enjoy it but it's probably a sign that it shouldn't be unnecessarily dragged out and ruin a good thing. Hope that makes sense.
@@gingysnapttt fair enough, different opinions I guess. I thought this was maybe the best season yet.
I don’t know why I was so emotionally attached to Love’s character. As she was dying i was bawling 😭 proceeded to cry the rest of the episode. This show just keeps getting better and better. Joe really needs to heal his childhood trauma, and I feel like love was more willing to heal than joe… or should I say nick.
sherry and cary were my favorite characters by the end of the season, i want a spinoff show about them
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For me, this season was underwhelming, idk just seemed off and was a really slow build up, also I hated how Joe was in this season, like he just pissed me off for some reason and was kinda hoping love would kill him haha. But honestly i just thought this season could’ve been a bit better.
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I'm glad love died
@Ninna Symone fair enough, yeah i liked love, just not the serial killer part hahha oh and the cheating, and she was in no right mental state to look after a child lol but neither is joe, he also cheated, went back to his old ways and was kinda contradicting himself cause he went back and fourth alot
Season was good. Its just that they took 18 fking months to realese it.
I thought it was maybe the best season yet, lots of varying opinions it seems
I think this season was amazing. The point of characters like these is that no, they don't at all want to stalk and kill their own people. It's the opposite. They TRY to be normal, to blend in, but their true damaged nature won't let them.
As far as Joe, it's almost a typical malignant sociopathic narcissist that always thinks the 'next' woman is The One, with the typical love bombing, stalking, whirlwind passion and then, decline and decay. That's EXACTLY how they operate. It was brilliant.
I liked most of the season but joe killing love and running away is basically the same as the end of season one, i feel like they should have either made them kill eachother or found by the police. Netlix never ends shows at the right time so it's getting really repetitive, you could make a time jump and follow his son after or something, idk i just felt like the ending was a bit lazy.
See I got an idea now. Time skip should be done. Only way they can pull it off without being repetitive is like you said. Or joes son killing Joe realizing he is a monster
I wish if they were to ever drag this show to s4, i would love to see Love plotting a revenge on Joe and getting equal. She is the perfect antagonist for Joe bcs she understands him the most.
It’s almost like the ending is the same because Joe keeps falling into the same patterns. Let’s not forget that this show is to highlight dangerous behavior, and the endings typically are the same because Joe is not getting anywhere in his life because he just keeps doing the same things is different ways.
Love this show also great marriage advice even though I am not married.
After 60 age marry
This show is making me not want to get married
I thought Season 2 was the peak, and on the first episode of Season 3; I was proven wrong. Have no idea how they’re gonna top the previous season, but after this, I have full faith in them. Incredible!
Season 2 still might the peak for me still. Even after Season 4, hopefully it'll at least beat out Season 3 with it's uneventful beginning and be paced the way the rest of Season 3 was.
Joe killed Love. Literally. The only chance at someone loving him and accepting him the way he is. What id like to see in season 4 is Joe finding someone in Paris and his next “victim” not being able to accept him for who he is once they learn the truth. He has a break down and realizes that Love is the true love that he lost. But little does he know love is alive and she tracks him down. After a rough confrontation and some hard realizations they come together again as one. And toward the end they once again come face to face with an opportunity to kill someone. Either him or her but they stop themselves and this will signify true change. They track down their son and truly start fresh. They are end game. They HAVE to be end game
That was quick. Haven't even started the season yet
Exactly they should’ve killed joe off n continued with Love
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@@KilSquad love is annoying tho
@@KilSquad nah love Erks me I can’t do another season of her
I actually predicted one of them will not make it out alive.. but I kinda felt bad love died in the end but she did most of the murders and shes too impulsive to not get caught in the future without joe or her rich family to back her up.
The best part of the entire season to me is the moment when Ryan mocks Joe “you don’t have it in you” and Joe shows his true colors that he spends all season trying to pretend don’t exist! He takes his mask off just to show Ryan how much he can, will and enjoys taking Ryan’s life in a violent, intimate way. It was such perfect dark comedy IMO chilling and creepy but for the span of three seasons of Joe trying to feel better about himself by acting above murder because he “doesn’t enjoy it” it was pretty thrilling/disturbing to see him rip his mask down and violently murder Ryan with a smile on his face. It’s so f’d up but that’s why we watch. Lol
So that’s why that scene stuck with me 👀
@@kkharps5395 yes! His delight and lack of hesitation to prove Ryan wrong is the most disturbing display we see for any of the murders in all three seasons. Chilling!
I don't like how Marianne and Theo are considered the best people, I mean sure they are fine and best characters in the season but let's not forget they both slept/ went behind someone married and irl that would be quite shitty, I guess people around them are much worse so they don't seem as bad.
@Kat Brown who's poly??? Joe started liking marriane before the whole poly shtick
Nope! Both Joe and Love manipulated them. Marianne was told that Joe and Love were separating, and even then… it’s not Mariannes fault for Joes infidelity. Also, Theo is barely an adult, there was a power imbalance and Love knew that and used it. Let’s not forget that manipulative people are manipulative and can cause someone to do uncharacteristic things.
@@eee9266 I can somewhat agree on Theo's defence but every unhappy married man cheats saying he's separating with his wife, call my morals too high but I wouldn't do it unless someone is actually done and dusted with divorce thus Marriene was at fault for sure. Plus Joe didn't actually do anything manipulated, Marriene fell in love with him fairly.
@@mahikakashyap9847 … Joe stalked Marianne and used the information he gained from that stalking as a way to appeal to Marianne. He manipulated her the same way he manipulated Beck, he’s just getting a lot more careful with it.
The best people are The Conrad’s, they’re annoying people but still decent humans
This dude seen everything instantly
Was Joe pretending to be poisoned when he wasn't? He took adrenaline at some point beforehand, and then somehow regained mobility at just the right time...
I think he was paralysed for a while and the adrenaline kicked in afterwards. It said on the bottle that it takes 45? mins to take effect.
Look I love this show so much but Joe needs to really stop falling for every single woman that smiles at him. It does not make his relationship with Beck seem that special if he literally just falls for everyone. And to me Beck was like a rollercoaster for him. So it cant be that heavy for every girl.
Agree so much! It doesn’t feel believable. With Beck it felt like he was truly fixated on and obsessed with HER, which is what made it so interesting. I don’t buy his obsession with the other girls.
@@cutemissbubbly Not believable? It is totally believable, because thats how irrational, mentally unstable persons with mommy/daddy issues do behave.
Just look at r/niceguys or r/nicegirls if you want to see examples in the wild. People there even claim to fall in love after just texting 10min with random people.
Its totally believable that a guy like Joe, who only experienced toxic relationships and negligence in his life, falls for every random phantasy that pops in his mind. And the whole point of Beck was that she really just was a random girl, even Joe himself admits this in this season.
Joe not falling for every random woman would totally undermine the point of his character:
Being completely unable to form actual relationships based on a real bond instead of his manic phantasies in his mind.
@@LegioXXI People don't realise that Joe is chasing an IMPOSSIBLE fantasy.He has this ideal perfect girl in his mind and he looks for that in all his obsessions.He will never be fulfilled because he is into the chase and the thrill.Notice how he was complaining that his life with Love and Henry was perfect but boring.He needs to save himself from his demons instead of waiting for a fantasy to swoop in and save him.He also mentioned He waited for His mom to come for him in the group home but she never did.He is still waiting for her but in form of a love interest. People mistake this story for a boy meets perfect girl and she changes him and they live happily ever after.However, that is not reality.Joe is a deeply damaged, psychotic man who will never be content with normal life.
Love annoyed the hell out of me this season! Who shouts out they killed someone whilst you got people in the house. Couldn't stop rolling my eyes
I feel like there’s no way they don’t somehow bring love back . She’s made a huge impact on the show and as an actress lately . What if she in-fact made it out of the house or something.
Then they would just be recycling the 2nd season and I think the writers are more thoughtful than that
I loved love and I really hope she is not dead and come back like Candice did
She's dead.
@@MaryMisfitTV but i want her to come back
@@dionysisnance4204 Maybe as one of Joe's hallucinations in season 4 like they did with Beck in season 2.
Fr I loved her
@@MaryMisfitTV good she is dead she cheated on him
Love was unhinged, I thought she would let Theo go alive, and that she cared for him because she cared for his brother, but she was just nuts, not that Joe isn't, but in his defence he never planned to live with Love
right thats why i liked her as a character so much like damn you really didt care for these ppl they were just NPCs to you lol
Love and Joe stressed me out! But I did enjoy the season. Definitely a wild ride
I'm just hoping that season 4 is gonna be the last season and he gets caught or killed.... Him and Love just annoyed me too much in this season, especially Love, I thought she was so stupid in that season that she deserved to be killed at the end. This show is just getting redundant now
Joe and Love say "I wolf you" to each other. Joe also refers to himself as a lone wolf. In the end, Joe and Love kill each other with Wolfsbane.
Idk why people are so mad at Love dying, the show’s main character is Joe, he’s got a good amount of plot armor and y’all should’ve seen her death coming, even tho victoria’s acting was amazing, it wasn’t gonna save love
honestly. i just knew he was gonna survive
people are mad because she was their favorite lmao it’s not hard to figure out
Are people mad about that? I was expecting Love to die in the first half of the season
are you fkin kidding me.... everybody is framing love as some crazy impulsive person but i would suggest you to realize what joe actually is..... even after watching three seasons of the same person you still dont realise what is doing, he just makes some fantasy about a women and when they dont meet his standards and is time to see the real world he kills them, love only killed the people who were a threat to her family and joe himself, but he still being his impulsive absurd self didnt realize that she loved him so much, when joe kills for love he has your sympathy but when love kills for love she is crazy a maniac?? and if you want to play the theo card, she stopped him at first but then joe was busy sniffin other girls panties and wasnt even looking at her so she hooked up with him........ and joe has no right to call her a pscho because he is bigger pscho himself
Started out strong, sadly ending was annoying
I wish Natalie stayed around for longer.
@@emmdear2337 Yeah, her death was anticlimactic. Setting up the guy who got them sick elevated the show again.
Then it all went to hell
@@emmdear2337 but wouldn't that be even more annoying and predictable? What's the point of having another unlikable love interest like Theo when instead they could actually developed Joe and love in interesting ways and actually make them a "team".
Love is pretty crazy-but she sticks with the person shes with. James didnt want to be with her anymore and she only accidentally killed him. And with Joe, she let him choose. The paralysis was on the knife-he picked it up and thats when Love knew he had to go.
Hated Joe this season. But it makes sense. He can never be truly happy because hes just going to forever bounce between new interests and always get them and their friend(s) killed.
Love, on the other hand, likes people with problems and doesnt lose interest in the person. Poor Love :(
Did anyone realize that Love's mum gave Joe the heads-up when she told him Love is loyal to no one but herself.
Loved the season just hate how one min Joe is all about his kid next min he’s trying to leave him and his wife…. Completely bailing on them both…
He was planning on taking his child when he was leaving with Marienne!
@@NB-lk7yd but then he didn’t…. That’s what pisses me off the most. I know love is dead ,but I still wanted to continue to see Joe being a dad. It just feels like a cheap way of returning to the status quo of the show. Not sure I’m going to watch the next season
Joe is crazy. Eventually, he would’ve been making up excuses for having his kid help him clean up murders. Or possibly killing in front of Henry and then trying to convince Henry that killing is okay if you have good “intentions”…The best thing Joe could do for the kid is to leave him.
The thing that gets me is Joe leaving the kid, but still thinking that he can start over with a “new family” with this Marianne. What if Henry finds him playing house with a new kid?..Joe really is just like his mother.
Loved this season. For some reason I was rooting for love the whole time. Her character in my opinion was brilliant. So sad she got he ending in this season. Really wanted her to become the new psycho protagonist of the show in all honesty instead of joe. Might just be me though lmao.
Yeah.. its just you.
@@Gemisnotmyname Yeah dude, this season really highlighted just how insane she is and needed to be put down. (As does joe) hes just easier to root for cause he has redeeming qualities! But at the end of the day, he deserves prison or death. As much as I want him to have a happy ending, for all the innocent people he killed he deserves to be locked up!
@@mr.mayhem6755 I liked Love. Joe has less self-awareness of the two of them. He's so dillusional. Have you forgotten how judgemental he is, with the women that he is obsessed with? He literally judges them and then ends up killing them. He's really out of touch with reality...he holds on to this idea that he's a good person. That's the only reason why he sometimes does decent things. Love is a little less judgemental and more likeable when she isn't upset. They are really both awful though.
@@mr.mayhem6755 😂😂
I was rooting for her too. But she kept killing everyone.
Homelander yet again asks the protagonist to "return his son".
I refuse to believe that’s not the same actor
@@mystic-db8546 yup different actors lol
Bro I thought the same thing they look just alike
@@mystic-db8546 this whole time I was rooting for Matthew cause I fucking love Homelander.
@@mystic-db8546 Ive been rewatching season 2 of The Boys with my bf & when I started the season of You last night, I had to look it up to see lmao
They should’ve kept love alive they could’ve did so much more w her I hope she’s not dead we didn’t see her in a body bag like everyone else
Yeah because Joe burned down the godamn house
@Neaj how could she possibly be alive?
he poisoned her she was dead from there before the fire even started.
@@Blazejones31 yes. But maybe he means it like this: she pretended to be poisoned, but she actually also took the antidote. But I don't think that is realistic. Especially because of the high dose, that the she got injected by Joe.
She will survive the fire, she's related to Michael Myers
I’m so happy Sherry and Cary survived. They grew on me! I’m also happy Theo lived too 😭😭😭😭
I’ve been looking forward for season 3 of YOU for almost a year and when it’s finally here I binge watched in hours lol
The marriage advice was good
There’s still two open threads I hope they bring back: Theo made a copy of Matthew’s surveillance files and Joe revisiting New York to find his mom and half brother.
So true hopefully they put that in season 4 and Joe goes to jail or at least gets caught
Felt the season started out well but then it got ridiculous far too quickly. There were too many dynamics happening, Henry being exposed to measles from Children raised by parents who do not agree with vaccinations, Gil's death, Joe getting to know other guys, Love's affair with Theo, Joe's affair, Exploring a polyamorous relationship, countless of impulsive murders, Marriene's and the detectives didn't bother to suspect how each person who dies was last with Love. The show is repeating always in terms of Joe's obssession and deaths.
there was too many things happening
promotion to get vaccinated
@@jazz455 that was optimum cringe
@@ThaEzioAuditore ok but did i lie
@@jazz455 no you're right it was optimum cringe I could barely finish the episode 😂😂
If you listen hard, the violin that plays right before Love dies is the same melody as when Beck was pretending to love Joe in the season 1 finale right before she stabs him. Pretty interesting parallel.
What I really missed this season was the connection to previous seasons, and I feel like they had so many opportunities to do so: What happened to Ellie (there is only brief mention of Joe sending money to her)? It would have been great to see her make a comeback to seek revenge for her sister, or to expose Joe to his new friends. Also I thought the death of Delilah and Candace would have caused more trouble, since Joe doesn't actually know how Love got rid of their bodies.. It just seems in this season Joe faces no consequences at all for his past (contrary to season 2 when Candace was following him) and that is a tension that I wanted to see more of