John Adams meets the King of France

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  • @charlesvanderhoog7056
    @charlesvanderhoog7056 2 роки тому +2816

    You must understand that by the end of the 18th century (in the upper classes) really everybody in Europe up to and including Russia could speak French. French was only supplanted by English by the end of the 19th century, and, frankly, after 1918. It would be like an ambassador coming to see the American president of our day and not knowing a word of English.

    • @histochronos
      @histochronos 2 роки тому +244

      The show played up the country bumpkin aspect of Adams here. He spoke French adequately irl.

    • @charlesvanderhoog7056
      @charlesvanderhoog7056 2 роки тому +47

      @@histochronos You mean the show also had to appeal to the Trump-voting yokels in the fly-over states like Dakota and Kansas?

    • @johnjacobsen1915
      @johnjacobsen1915 2 роки тому +9

      @@charlesvanderhoog7056 no. he meant that the fortune of those who underestimate a man based upon their own arrogance usually get killed by Trump types

    • @thomaslodger7675
      @thomaslodger7675 2 роки тому +357

      @@charlesvanderhoog7056 This show came out in 2008 when Obama was elected.

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 2 роки тому +35

      Adams would have learned on the trip over, but he was chronically seasick the whole voyage.

  • @CodaMission
    @CodaMission 3 роки тому +1298

    Louis: Doctor Franklin! You are the talk of Paris! Both your experience with science and with the ladies...
    Franklin: Day and Night, Sire, I'm hard at work.

    • @enniodimarcantoniod.g.8388
      @enniodimarcantoniod.g.8388 2 роки тому +114

      Merci for the english translation!

    • @andrewpestotnik5495
      @andrewpestotnik5495 2 роки тому +71

      Legendary retort lol

    • @algerianatheist2755
      @algerianatheist2755 2 роки тому +38

      Jour et nuit, je m'active 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @wronski11
      @wronski11 2 роки тому +10

      could you please translate, what does the king say here 1:98?

    • @robertquirijns
      @robertquirijns 2 роки тому +34

      @@wronski11 "Mesdames et Messieurs, couvrez-vous" it means "ladies and gentlemen, please cover yourself" (as in put on your hats)

  • @fliegeroh
    @fliegeroh 11 місяців тому +337

    In the 1970's version of "The Adams Chronicles", there was a much better representation of this exchange. The King addressed Mr. Adams in French and when he did not respond, an aide told the King that he didn't speak French. The King just bowed slightly and said "Welcome, Mr. Adams." I think that was closer to what happened. Yes, Adams was mortified that he couldn't speak French but the King didn't rub it in. He was happy to have the United States as an ally against the British.

    • @kinggeorge7696
      @kinggeorge7696 10 місяців тому +44

      Most likely, if it ever happened at all. Not only publically ridiculing a diplomat of a country you want do do business with would be a really dumb thing to do but also such reaction would be completely contradictory to Louis XVI's personality.

    • @Crf-nr9jy
      @Crf-nr9jy 9 місяців тому +5

      The book this is based off of does have Louis XVI say ‘not a word’

    • @robertortiz-wilson1588
      @robertortiz-wilson1588 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@kinggeorge7696yeah.

    • @bobholtzmann
      @bobholtzmann 9 місяців тому +9

      Franklin's presence must have greatly relieved Mr. Adam's awkwardness. All formalities aside, I'm just glad the French naval fleet was able and willing to help the Americans win the Battle of Yorktown.

    • @stevenlarge895
      @stevenlarge895 8 місяців тому +3

      Even if it cost him his head

  • @michaelallens3193
    @michaelallens3193 Рік тому +321

    The entire population of Quebec when you visit: "You don't speak French?"

    • @Motrin37000
      @Motrin37000 Рік тому +19

      Ils ont raison.

    • @ShannonFreng
      @ShannonFreng 8 місяців тому +6

      Ah, I'd have to show them an empty pack of cigarettes, just get it across to them what I wanted, at a corner store. I was so glad to get back to Alberta. I could completely relate to Adams, in this scene. At least we treat them better, when they're here, than vice versa.

    • @jean-philippedoyon9904
      @jean-philippedoyon9904 4 місяці тому +6

      You didn't visit much of Québec...Depending on where you go, we are mostly bilingual and are polite and helpful. Usually it's the other way around when we go in Ontario or the western part of Canada, it's like we spoke Kilingon...guess it's too hard to learn uh...

    • @Motrin37000
      @Motrin37000 3 місяці тому

      @@qnbits Ha bah... Si ton unique projet de vie, c'est donner ton cul à ton employeur...

    • @onlyangela5311
      @onlyangela5311 2 місяці тому +4

      I'm from Ontario
      *Silence*
      I'm from New York
      "Ah Allo !"
      😅

  • @novadawg6913
    @novadawg6913 3 роки тому +850

    It’s not that the King and Court were just lolz aDaMs DoNt SpEaK FrEnCh¿! French was the language of European diplomacy. To send a diplomat anywhere who didn’t speak French would have been considered on the same level of sending someone to cooking competition who’s only ever microwaved hot pockets. It’s more of a smack on America than Adams, as it makes the colonies appear an uneducated backwater.

    • @jonirving5606
      @jonirving5606 3 роки тому +99

      They were considered an uneducated backwater country before Adams ever showed up. But you are right. This scene, I don't believe should be a slight on France at that time. There should have been a diplomat fluent in French. Franklin, although immensely popular there did not have that kind of fluency.

    • @AbrahamLincoln4
      @AbrahamLincoln4 3 роки тому +36

      heh. America and uneducated backwater lol

    • @ryanbruh752
      @ryanbruh752 3 роки тому +54

      @@AbrahamLincoln4 nothings changed

    • @ismaelali8011
      @ismaelali8011 3 роки тому +9

      Lol and we still don't speak French here for the most part 200 years later.

    • @jonirving5606
      @jonirving5606 3 роки тому +39

      @@ryanbruh752 Well, a lot has changed. America has become a super power. So this type of thing does not happen in this way any more. But, as an American who speaks four languages, I wish more of us would do better to understand the culture of other countries.

  • @sigmaxxiv
    @sigmaxxiv 3 роки тому +815

    King's Advisor: "Mister Franklin is accompanied by a Mister Adams."
    Louis XVI: "Do you come from Paris sir?"
    Adams: *smirk*
    Louis XVI: "You don't speak French?"
    King's Advisor: "Mister Adams doesn't speak a single word of French."
    Louis XVI: *laugh* "Not a word?!"
    Franklin: *nervous diplomat noises*

    • @AbrahamLincoln4
      @AbrahamLincoln4 3 роки тому +143

      "Oh fuck..."
      - Ben Franklin Paris 1778

    • @Theakker3B
      @Theakker3B 3 роки тому +9

      Why would he ask if he's from Paris?

    • @91rumpnisse
      @91rumpnisse 3 роки тому +32

      Would it be "Have you been to Paris, Mr Adams?"?

    • @Anonymoususer44569
      @Anonymoususer44569 3 роки тому +15

      @@91rumpnisse Possibly, but Louis XVI says “Vous venez de Paris, monsieur?”, which means “Do you come from Paris?”

    • @91rumpnisse
      @91rumpnisse 3 роки тому +12

      @@Anonymoususer44569 Louis and his entourage seems to be preparing to go somewhere, the streets of Paris perhaps? And he's asking Adams "Do you want to come (with us) to Paris, Sir?". Louis could either be colloquial in his speech, or the translation got wrong here when they wrote the dialogue. Asking a foreigner if he comes from your country's capitol seems a little weird :P

  • @colingreaves4024
    @colingreaves4024 2 роки тому +741

    The comparison between Adams meeting Le Roi here and then meeting King George is very telling. The ostentatious, over stylised French Court with Franklin (who jokes about shagging day and night), compared with the British Monarch, alone in his throneroom talking openly about his feelings for the colonies and their independence. It really stands out for me

    • @burrator8291
      @burrator8291 2 роки тому +78

      Louis XVI wanted to be like his great x3 grandfather but didn’t have the common sense, force of personality and wisdom of the Sun King. Part of why his absolutism failed

    • @machirim2805
      @machirim2805 Рік тому +38

      For the cultural masters of 18th-century Europe, the French were really barbaric. This makes me appreciate the British and (especially) the Dutch here even more.

    • @chuch541
      @chuch541 Рік тому +14

      @@burrator8291 ahhh louis the sun king, arguably the most well liked monarch since King of Kings, uniter of the latin west, daddy Charlemagne

    • @ahmedhasanyusuftazimmuhamm9926
      @ahmedhasanyusuftazimmuhamm9926 Рік тому +1

      Great analysis there. I agree with it.

    • @fshoaps
      @fshoaps Рік тому +2

      and then the french revolution …

  • @SkepticalChris
    @SkepticalChris Рік тому +52

    You'd think that Franklin would act as translator for that moment, to introduce John Adams to King Louis.

  • @KikomochiMendoza
    @KikomochiMendoza 2 роки тому +1282

    The king laughs, but it isn't John Adam's head on a basket later on in life.

    • @AbrahamLincoln4
      @AbrahamLincoln4 2 роки тому +133

      And I don't remember John Adams waiting 7 years to lose his virginity to his already non-virgin wife.

    • @adibzinnurine7917
      @adibzinnurine7917 2 роки тому +23

      @@AbrahamLincoln4 Woah! Take it easy, Mr President. President Adams didn't end up shot it the head and I vividly remember the killer crying "Sic semper tyrannis" afterwards. (To your name)
      No matter how few years it takes for you to lose yours, you ain't the President and neither your son will be. (To you)

    • @dragonel88
      @dragonel88 2 роки тому +28

      That would be the fat king Louis the 16th.

    • @Shadowman4710
      @Shadowman4710 2 роки тому +54

      @@dragonel88 It was Louis the 18th that was grossly fat.

    • @enniodimarcantoniod.g.8388
      @enniodimarcantoniod.g.8388 2 роки тому +1

      Hahahaha, true!

  • @kolboy757
    @kolboy757 Рік тому +808

    The fact that it took months to travel to France from America and he’s still never bothered to learn French

    • @kolboy757
      @kolboy757 Рік тому +52

      * 1 month

    • @andrewpestotnik5495
      @andrewpestotnik5495 Рік тому +80

      He spoke it competently as his time went by in France

    • @DavidAWA
      @DavidAWA Рік тому +121

      Adams ended up learning French, and as he did realized that Franklin didn't really speak French (more an improvised "Franglish"). But everyone still hated Adams and still loved Franklin.

    • @TheGreatDearLeaderJimPickens
      @TheGreatDearLeaderJimPickens Рік тому +60

      @@DavidAWA Franklin had a history with the French and indulged in the French way, sexually speaking, whereas Adams with his more Puritanical stance stuck out more as a foreigner. At least, this is my understanding of things

    • @Ryanfinder226
      @Ryanfinder226 Рік тому +88


      Franklin also played up a persona of being this rowdy American frontiersman with a simple but clever mind . By painting himself as this rural bumpkin he was able to often impress them with his intelligence, which he was intentionally conditioning them to not expect from him

  • @adrianmunoz7646
    @adrianmunoz7646 7 місяців тому +29

    I fuckin love how King Louis just props up and announces his leave and just takes off immediately after his non-interaction with John Adams!
    🤣🤣🤣

  • @fh.s.k.2847
    @fh.s.k.2847 2 роки тому +215

    literally me as a new student in a French class

    • @ASE_Avenue
      @ASE_Avenue 2 роки тому +4

      Mon aussi

    • @thewarriorwraith3556
      @thewarriorwraith3556 Рік тому +1

      ​@@ASE_Avenue Et Moi il y a 6 ans, c'est un voyage!

    • @Agent1W
      @Agent1W Рік тому

      Day and night, you're hard at work? :)

  • @kinggeorge7696
    @kinggeorge7696 10 місяців тому +31

    The portrayal of Louis XVI might be the single most innacurate thing in this series. Even ignoring the fact that the guy portraying him looks absolutely nothing like Louis XVI. King Louis was notorious for being very shy and trying to be nice to everybody, even to those who clearly didn't respect him. If that situation ever happened, King Louis would probably be the last to laugh. He'd rather offer Adams a conversation in English - he spoke the language fluently since he was a teen.

    • @IronMan-tk8uc
      @IronMan-tk8uc 7 місяців тому +5

      Too much creative liberty this series took.

  • @-KillaWatt-
    @-KillaWatt- 3 роки тому +337

    During this time it was not uncommon for someone in the King/Queen's court to document everything they say. Sort of like an early stenographer. In Britain they have a library of books that simply document what the King/Queen said during their reign. In this same series we actually see some of this being used. When Adams meets with King George, the conversation during that scene is considered almost verbatim to what was really said. Anyway, I say all this because I wonder if King Louis' court did the same thing? Perhaps the "day and night I'm hard at work" joke was actually said.

    • @JohnnyDeur
      @JohnnyDeur 2 роки тому +4

      I didn't see anyone writing anything when Adams met King Louis or King George

    • @ryanmumford5534
      @ryanmumford5534 2 роки тому +32

      @@JohnnyDeur not here, but in real life, monarchs most certainly did document everything, that is why napoleon is one of the most documented people on earth.

    • @HydroSnips
      @HydroSnips 2 роки тому +7

      If such records existed in Versailles they probably would have been lost/destroyed in the Revolution

    • @ryanmumford5534
      @ryanmumford5534 2 роки тому +4

      @@HydroSnips sometimes, but not always. There were many documents about various Irish states from 1000-1647 that were preserved until the move towards Irish independence in 1922, so there is a chance, anyway, that they were copied and preserved somewhere out there.

    • @theblueflame2221
      @theblueflame2221 Рік тому +3

      @@ryanmumford5534 Man that must be a fascinating read even the mundane conversations.

  • @muratdagdelen8163
    @muratdagdelen8163 2 роки тому +88

    Haha, what a funny guy, I hope He would have a long and happy life with loved ones...

  • @buccos2324
    @buccos2324 3 роки тому +234

    Lmfao Franklins French accent 😂

    • @mr.nobody5028
      @mr.nobody5028 2 роки тому +17

      We we, and whatnot😆

    • @kentinson1670
      @kentinson1670 2 роки тому +19

      I'm not American nor French but Franklin's accent is wack

    • @jarnec9428
      @jarnec9428 2 роки тому +50

      @@kentinson1670 Remember, Ben was a lover, not a linguist

    • @MerleUnchained
      @MerleUnchained 2 роки тому

      Americans don’t give a shit.

    • @paulinotou
      @paulinotou 2 роки тому +47

      @@kentinson1670 He was Bostonian who learned French outside of France. Americans at the time were considered on the edge of civilization as far as Europeans were concerned. Ben Franklin even rocked it a little as this rugged Americanish was a novelty in that environment.

  • @Spongebrain97
    @Spongebrain97 3 роки тому +102

    This mini series inspires me to want to learn another language

    • @captaindestruction9332
      @captaindestruction9332 3 роки тому +10

      DO IT! While I have never sat down and learned one myself the benefits are immense! I suggest though one that truly interests you. Don’t study one say, Spanish just because its more convenient do so because you love Spanish/Mexican literature etc.

    • @Spongebrain97
      @Spongebrain97 3 роки тому +3

      @@captaindestruction9332 ill probably do Spanish because thats part of my culutural background. I never learned because I grew up in a suburban area where nobody spoke it that much and so it wasnt a necessity

    • @madsdahlc
      @madsdahlc 2 роки тому +3

      From personal experience that is not so hard . I writing to you in the language I first learned . My native tongue is danish . Then learned english and german … So I speak 3 languages …

    • @madsdahlc
      @madsdahlc 2 роки тому +1

      @The505Guys both . Learning it in School and watching german television …

  • @tomace4898
    @tomace4898 Рік тому +23

    "He don't speak French!?"
    The ultimate burn.

    • @tajniak4335
      @tajniak4335 Рік тому +8

      For a diplomat in 18th century, yes, it kind of was

    • @derbdep
      @derbdep 11 місяців тому +1

      He asked "*You don't speak French?" (maybe the accent was hard to catch).
      He was asking Adams directly, which was even worse because the King spoke and understood English, as did most upper class French people in the court. the requirement for anyone visiting France to speak French was half pride half arrogance thing for them).
      Then he was like "pas un mot?!" ("not a word?!" with the troll face).

  • @DVX_BELLORVM
    @DVX_BELLORVM 2 роки тому +36

    I know that I'm picking nits at a 14-year-old series here (which I generally loved), but their stereotypically foppish and inaccurate depiction of the French court really irked me. Adams certainly clashed repeatedly with Vergennes, but the French foreign minister -- much less the shy and reserved Louis XVI -- never would have committed the diplomatic sleight of mocking him in public. The heavily-powdered face was also several decades out of fashion by the 1770s in favor of a more naturalistic look.

    • @JohnnyDeur
      @JohnnyDeur 2 роки тому +2

      nothing is out of fashion for a king, besides not everyone had a powdered face,

    • @kuraga9147
      @kuraga9147 Рік тому

      I was looking for that comment. And by the way despite the fact there are quite good costumes and wigs in the series, since 1750s most people had their own hair but not the wigs. Despite the fact, Adams wore wigs till late 1790s but Louis XVI wore his own hair. And my little observation on powder (according portraits). English are considered to be very conservative but many of them didn’t powdered their hair since 1780s. It was brand new fashion in the period. But the common part of the other Europeans did till 1790s when they finally cut their long hair but some of them still powdered it till early 1800s. So it seems unrealistic to see so much unpowdered hair in the whole series.

  • @marshmallowbudgie
    @marshmallowbudgie 2 роки тому +26

    Ben Franklin actually did play up the mountain-man costume, largely since he was Ben Franklin

  • @Scotford_Maconochie
    @Scotford_Maconochie 2 роки тому +91

    I swear Franklin is the same actor that portrayed General Cornwallis in The Patriot (2000)

    • @TheOppl
      @TheOppl 2 роки тому +21

      It is, yes.

    • @AndyP998
      @AndyP998 2 роки тому +11

      Same actor of 100 movies all over place, very famous. Patriot was quite bad literally

    • @sweetballs4742
      @sweetballs4742 2 роки тому +9

      DAMN HIM! DAMN THAT MAN!
      -The actor who portray as General Cornwallis and Benjamin Franklin xD

    • @usedforks
      @usedforks 2 роки тому +2

      You don't have to swear, just look it up lol that info is online for everyone to see.

    • @soberanisfam1323
      @soberanisfam1323 2 роки тому +2

      @@AndyP998 how dare you

  • @qcompressed1409
    @qcompressed1409 2 роки тому +117

    I like how this is the only time you see him in the entire series, he’s THAT uninvolved in his actual job.

    • @98cents
      @98cents 2 роки тому +33

      Well the show isn't about Louis, it's about Adams. He had the one audience with the king here to discuss the treaty, but then was sent elsewhere since he was unable to work in Louis' court without knowing French, is my guess. We don't see Louis or anything else he does because Adams part in that story is over.

    • @boozantine
      @boozantine 2 роки тому +5

      A major point of Versailles was to restrict access to the monarch. In this scene, Adams and Franklin are admitted into the Petit Lever which is one of the principal times that an outsider would be able to have direct access to the monarch were they given the privelege. The fact that Adams embarasses himself to this extent in such an intimate manner with the king is intended to show his unreadiness for French society.

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 2 роки тому

      among fools: let him eat cake.

    • @jrus690
      @jrus690 2 роки тому +8

      @@boozantine From my understanding, this was played somewhat for laughs, John Adams spoke French when he got to France, King Louis spoke English, too. There was no embarrassment, as John was basically a lawyer and spoke like one, his French got better the longer he was in France. It was Ben who was considered kind of backwater by the French upper class, he just ran with it.

    • @jrus690
      @jrus690 2 роки тому +6

      He is a Absolute Divine Monarch, he grants you an audience, no different than King George. In reality, he was more involved, and John Adams did know French at this point. This stuff was mostly played for laughs.

  • @frankrigal3763
    @frankrigal3763 Рік тому +50

    The french king Louis XVI not only sent his navy, the most powerful in the world at that time, to help the american war of independence, but he gave de equivalent of today's 100 million USD to back it up, and a loan of 160 mill USD, which was never paid back. And by the way, Adams and Franklin were 5,5 and 5,7 in size. The king was 6,4, and strongly built. So much for gratitude and historical truth.

    • @frankrigal3763
      @frankrigal3763 Рік тому +10

      Just checked it: the actor playing the king Louis XVI is 5,7, the actor playing Ben Franklin is 6,7. By the way, the main reason the king was executed was that the debt was never paid back. B. Franklin was best buddy with the instigators of the french revolution, such as Voltaire, and just as them all a freemason himself, as was John Adams. The main objectives of freemasonry were, and still are, to take down the catholic church and the catholic kings. This revolution killed most nobility in France, but also 10% of its citizens, those not agreeing totally with its anti-christianity.

    • @CapAnson12345
      @CapAnson12345 10 місяців тому +2

      Oh I think we can count that debt as paid in full after WWII.

    • @frankrigal3763
      @frankrigal3763 10 місяців тому +1

      @@CapAnson12345 heard about the Marshal debt?

    • @carthkaras6449
      @carthkaras6449 10 місяців тому

      @@CapAnson12345 After 4 years of indifference, without Pearl harbor and the fear of the german acquiring the atomic bomb, the USA would never go to war. That's the cynical reality.

    • @FakeAssHandsomeMcGee_
      @FakeAssHandsomeMcGee_ 10 місяців тому +3

      I thought the British Royal Navy was the most powerful navy in the world at the time? I think around this time it was split into the red, white, and blue squadrons. One squadron alone was more powerful than most national navies.

  • @danbushnell2752
    @danbushnell2752 2 роки тому +36

    The kings actually a good actor

  • @lotanowo
    @lotanowo Рік тому +45

    I just love how the show portrayed the flamboyancy of the Rococo movement, contrasted with the sombre and dark Flemish style later on in the episode.

  • @Tibibt
    @Tibibt 10 місяців тому +7

    The king says "Dr Franklin...people talk a lot about you in Paris....science experiments..and ladies" and Franklin wittily replies: "Sire, day and night, I stay active"

  • @wokeeye6441
    @wokeeye6441 Рік тому +20

    Adams knew how to write and speak Ancient Greek and Latin, I knew that, yet this show is the first time I found out that he knew not one word of French.

    • @stevencooper4422
      @stevencooper4422 Рік тому +10

      He did know French, the show just was trying to emphasize that Adams was a fish out of water when it came to the Parisian courts. He was far better suited for diplomacy to England.

    • @rodrikofharlaw6848
      @rodrikofharlaw6848 Рік тому +5

      @templars9806 Adams was a lawyer from the 1700s. That alone is proof he knew Latin. I'm certain he knew greek too. I don't even have to google it.

  • @aaronleperspicace1704
    @aaronleperspicace1704 2 роки тому +20

    Watch the amazing French movie "La Révolution française" for a more accurate depiction of Louis.

  • @waleabiodun5788
    @waleabiodun5788 2 роки тому +38

    Brilliant acting by the King. Faultless!

  • @abunchofvideos8391
    @abunchofvideos8391  3 роки тому +20

    0:30
    w i d e Adams

  • @Rudolph1722
    @Rudolph1722 3 роки тому +141

    This is a very false and ridiculous portrayal of Louis XVI. He was very down to earth, very intelligent, was interested in practical things, and, for most of his life, was rather shy and modest. Marie Antoinette, when her teenage husband became king, said "God help us, for we shall reign too young!" And some of Louis' first actions were to reduce the spendings of the crown of the decadent Louis XV and redistribute to the poor.
    The portrayal of french monarchy as being devoid of any dignity, in this film, is dripping a sort of madness that surpasses everything that the jacobins could have invented in terms of propaganda.

    • @matomajor5124
      @matomajor5124 3 роки тому +36

      Good king at the wrong time. But this is cringe.

    • @cow_tools_
      @cow_tools_ 3 роки тому +14

      Hmm yeah, it's a shame. I guess they only cared about accuracy for the American part.

    • @NoogahOogah
      @NoogahOogah 3 роки тому +45

      I didn’t think this portrayal of Louis XV was so negative. His dress and makeup look ridiculous to modern viewers, but he is refined and polite to his guests. He’s not on screen long enough to say anything insane, but he does come across as a young man struggling to adopt the airs of a monarch. That’s how I interpreted it anyways.

    • @lespectator4962
      @lespectator4962 3 роки тому +37

      But he is down to earth in this film, he is mingling with guests and doesn't act like small talk with his subjects is incredibly below him. Just compare how approachable he is compared to how they portrayed king george the 3rd.

    • @Anonymoususer44569
      @Anonymoususer44569 3 роки тому +19

      At this time, Louis XVI has been reigning for a few years and is still in his early to mid twenties, so it makes sense to show him as playful, laughing, and full of life. I think the portrayal of French opulence was a decent setup for the later parts of the show when they reference the French Revolution

  • @AbrahamLincoln4
    @AbrahamLincoln4 3 роки тому +27

    1:55 Franklin's face LMAO

  • @passionateclimber1501
    @passionateclimber1501 Рік тому +16

    Dr Franklin’s facial expression at 1:55 is priceless 😅🤣

    • @AbrahamLincoln4
      @AbrahamLincoln4 11 місяців тому

      "ooooh"

    • @marcitos_9329
      @marcitos_9329 6 місяців тому +1

      Probably thinking the ladies that shall accompany me tonight will hear about this

  • @rbryant100
    @rbryant100 3 роки тому +78

    The foreign minister (Vergennes?)to the King really set John Adams up. If he didn’t mention Adams, King Louis would have went on his way and would have spared him the embarrassment.
    It’s been a couple years since I’ve seen the series, but I think Adams and the foreign minister didn’t get along too well so he didn’t pass on the opportunity to make Adams look like a clown.

    • @crispinjulius5032
      @crispinjulius5032 3 роки тому +28

      That’s how it’s portrayed but to a degree, it was ludicrous for the Revolutionary government to have sent Adams. He tried learning g French but it was no use so how can a diplomat work successfully when he could even speak the language of the people he was trying to become allies with?
      Adams was a firebrand and straight to the point. The French art of diplomacy were parties, tradition, and ass kissing. Vergennes to an immediate dislike to him.

    • @Anonymoususer44569
      @Anonymoususer44569 3 роки тому +10

      Lol, making Adams look like a clown in front of the guy whose face is painted like one

    • @johannessanmiguel
      @johannessanmiguel 2 роки тому +3

      Didn´t know this fact. I read some years ago, that early americans played European diplomacy cards very well!!

    • @gregoryborton6598
      @gregoryborton6598 2 роки тому +18

      @@johannessanmiguel Adam was much more successful with the Dutch and English. Franklin was at home cougar hunting in Versailles.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 2 роки тому +1

      @@johannessanmiguel It kind of helped that the French were eager for revenge on Britain after the Seven Years' War and the rebellion in America was a means to an end.

  • @Oreomeister
    @Oreomeister 2 роки тому +10

    Feels like they were going for a "this ridiculousness in the face of the peoples plight was why the revolution was perfectly understandable".

  • @kenllacer
    @kenllacer 3 роки тому +10

    The video that was deleted has returned to us.

  • @joshuamoore4537
    @joshuamoore4537 Рік тому +5

    Little did that king know; a Revolution of his countries own was on its way to his doorstep.

  • @moxifloxi
    @moxifloxi Рік тому +3

    king’s not laughing now

  • @lindaeasley5606
    @lindaeasley5606 Рік тому +10

    Some of the founding fathers were very cultured and enjoyed the company of the French . Not only Ben Franklin but Thomas Jefferson and James Monroe
    Monroe spent time as a diplomat in both France and London
    Monroe's wife was instrumental in saving Lafayette's wife from the guillotine

  • @williammcguire130
    @williammcguire130 11 місяців тому +7

    Franklin dressed like Davy Crockett because he wanted to appeal to the French court's sense of adventure about the New World and spoke French well, albeit with an accent. Adams dressed in the latest fashions and couldn't speak a word.

  • @jorgefiguerola1239
    @jorgefiguerola1239 Рік тому +6

    If I could take this opportunity to thank the French for the creation of the bidet. Although I was always content with regular baths I do appreciate the awakening of added freshness.
    Merci.

  • @towada1066
    @towada1066 2 роки тому +27

    The stench of Versailles must have been overwhelming ... (-_-) ...

    • @boozantine
      @boozantine 2 роки тому +7

      @Nogent Second. Comapred to its environs, Versailles would've smelled quite nice. Flowers, incense, and candles were used and replaced regularly all over the palace. Maids would've been emptying chamber pots constantly and working tirelessly to perfume the palace.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 2 роки тому

      @Nogent When it was first built in the 17th century, there were no toilet facilities despite hundreds, sometimes thousands of people being there. Under Louis XIV who built it the situation was chaotic - besides royalty, aristocrats and their servants, there were also workmen putting the finishing touches to some buildings, vendors selling produce to supply food to the palace, prostitutes and even thieves just outside the palace precincts waiting to ambush and rob people coming and going. People would go behind pillars or curtains and relieve themselves. With time the situation improved.

  • @Ahsfbvox
    @Ahsfbvox Рік тому +103

    I studied American History in college, and this series made me want to learn more about the history of France. One of the biggest takeaways I had after watching a simplified video of it? The painful irony of the French Revolution is that after they cut off Louis XVI’s head, they were decapitating people for violating laws “against liberty”.

    • @letsmakemoney938
      @letsmakemoney938 Рік тому

      sounds like "r"ussias birth of communism

    • @poetradio
      @poetradio Рік тому

      And post-Revolution America continued slavery, denied the majority of its people the vote and committed genocide.

    • @theyogiic
      @theyogiic 10 місяців тому +1

      What is the name of the series??

    • @SandyPete448
      @SandyPete448 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@theyogiic 'John Adams'. It's an HBO production I believe.

  • @KiriakosVilchez
    @KiriakosVilchez 2 місяці тому

    Franklin just lets his buddy get roasted and mocked without so much as a quick "he doesn't speak French." 😂😂😂😂

  • @dewelr121
    @dewelr121 Рік тому +9

    100s: Latin was the Universal Language
    1700s: French was the Universal Language
    Today: English is the Universal Language
    Imagine if a scenario was like this happened today
    Some French guy meets with the US President
    US President: Vous ne parlez pas anglais ?
    VP: Y/N Doesn't Speak one word of English
    US President: "Laughs" Not A Word?

    • @JohnnyDeur
      @JohnnyDeur Рік тому

      not a word? 😂😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣

    • @mr.raslyon6626
      @mr.raslyon6626 11 місяців тому

      It would be considered unprofessional now to mock them. With modern tech and translation tools, you dont really need to lesrn other than to impress and flatter.

    • @christianterraes8334
      @christianterraes8334 11 місяців тому

      Le chinois la prochaine ?

  • @Tibibt
    @Tibibt 9 місяців тому +2

    What this shows as well is the habit of the French court to engage in verbal jousting/banter ("bons mots"). The King keeps teasing his courtiers and of course expects a witty reply. He tells the Cardinal: "I thought we would never see him in the capital given all the sins that are committed here", Cardinal replies "sins follow me, sire". He tells the Count "you're late" to which he replies "your majesty woke up quite early today". Tells the Count: I heard you won big (playing cards). The count replies "never enough, Sire".

  • @AbrahamLincoln4
    @AbrahamLincoln4 3 роки тому +9

    At Long last this is re-uploaded!

  • @ibaadiqbal6180
    @ibaadiqbal6180 6 місяців тому +2

    Benjamin Franklin absolutely could have acted as a translator

  • @russcastella
    @russcastella 9 місяців тому +12

    Whether you did laugh him off or not, we thank you for your crucial support, 👑 😊

  • @djkm9558
    @djkm9558 2 роки тому +9

    PAS UN MOT?! 😂😂😂

  • @urmo345
    @urmo345 3 роки тому +20

    At this time so called lingua franca was actually French, like Latin was before and English is now.

    • @dab0331
      @dab0331 Рік тому +1

      At this time Spanish was still up there probably even surpassing French. Probably because it's much closer to actual Latin both in structure and pronunciation, so it was an easier transition for anyone who knew Latin
      French didn't truly take off until Napolean.

    • @rockyspanos3709
      @rockyspanos3709 Рік тому

      @@dab0331 What are you talking about ? Due to Napoléon, a man which I admire by the way, french became more unpopular. The russian aristocrats who would only speak French refused to do so because of his invasion. The german population, who admired French culture stopped doing so when many of them died to defend France.

    • @dab0331
      @dab0331 Рік тому

      @@rockyspanos3709 it doesn't matter what a FEW aristocrats and one country think, French was still spoken because it was the most POWERFUL and influential at that time.
      A lot of nations HATE the USA yet they learn and speak English because we're the most powerful and have the influence of Hollywood.
      The French prior to Napoleon weren't nearly as revered as the Spanish. Spanish, not French, was the lingua franca of Europe and the Mediterranean. Then French. Then English. The 1700's was a TRASITIONARY phase where the Spanish were slowly losing their influence, but it didn't completely die off until Napoleon and his invasion of Spain.
      Lingua Francas are NOT popularity contests. They're the languages you use because you're most likely to use them in trade and travel. If the Spanish dominated the sea then OF COURSE you would learn Spanish in case you ran into a Spanish merchant or naval ship.

    • @rockyspanos3709
      @rockyspanos3709 Рік тому

      ​@@dab0331
      " Spanish dominated the sea then OF COURSE you would learn Spanish in case you ran into a Spanish merchant or naval ship."
      You're right that it rendered the Spanish language into a Lingua Franca of trade or as the wiki puts it "global trade". This is not something I've denied, but with this logic, French would never be a Lingua Franca. Britain then ruled the waves, but French was much more known than English.
      French WAS the language of diplomacy before Napoleon, and the fact that the Russian gouvernment used it to conduct it self is NOT insignificant.
      Furthermore, what do you mean by saying " hates the USA " ? Europe is the continent that speaks it the best not counting of course the anglophonic nations, mainly because we drole over American culture and not solely because of the chance of meeting American ships which the commun man will never ever do.
      Statistically, the USA is a VERY popular country.

    • @dab0331
      @dab0331 Рік тому

      @@rockyspanos3709 My point is that just because the Tsars didn't like French because of Napoleon doesn't mean that French stopped being a lingua franca. In the same way that since some countries hate the USA, it doesn't mean English stopped being a lingua franca.
      Secondly, this idea that only Britain ruled the seas is incorrect. Britain was of the top 3, yes, but it was NOT the only superpower in the same way that only the modern US stands as the sole superpower after the fall of the USSR.
      Britain lost many sea battles to the Spanish and French even during this time period, and they love puffing up the myth of sole sea supremacy by citing things like the defeat of the Spanish Armada when it wasn't even a true defeat but rather a horrible storm that defeated them, AND the fact that the Spanish defeated the ENGLISH Armada which followed afterwards in an ACTUAL pitched battle.
      Like i said, the 1700's was a TRANSITIONARY phase where all 3 powers were fairly evenly matched, BUT the Spanish language still ruled supreme as the lingua franca because of its lingering 1600's dominance.
      The difference between England and France though is that no one had to PHYSICALLY travel THROUGH Britain in mainland Europe to do trade, nor did they have to really deal with Britain in the Mediterranean, which was mostly controlled by France and Spain.
      All 3 powers fought for their portions of the world. France had the middle half of the new world until they were defeated by the British, and that half was split between them and the Spanish, so they primarily ended up focusing on conquering the Mediterranean and North Africa. Spain was to busy with their VAST empire in the Americas and Philippines to bother with the Mediterranean too much. And England being the smaller power focused their efforts away from mainland Europe and instead bullied South Africa and India, because they find it easier to fight with 3rd world countries away from the interests of Spain and France, and focus on another portion of the world pie

  • @hugojaime9565
    @hugojaime9565 11 місяців тому +3

    I thought Freemasons all knew each other

  • @winter4953
    @winter4953 6 місяців тому +1

    foreign diplomacy, communication and honest conversation is the way of the future,

  • @theMooly
    @theMooly Рік тому +8

    C'est plaisant de voir que les acteurs "français" sont belle et bien de vrais français. A contrario d'une coutume trop rependus de nos jours, ou les réalisateurs pensent qu'apprendre quelque lignes à un acteur étranger est suffisant. En tant que français je trouve cette scène -plutôt- réaliste. Bien que je regrette qu'il s'agissent d'un français contemporains et non celui d'époque.

    • @bennettbullock9690
      @bennettbullock9690 11 місяців тому

      Et je veux vous demander, quoi seraient les diffèrences de prononciation ou grammaire de l'epoque? Le "r" trillé peut-être?

    • @ruperttmls7985
      @ruperttmls7985 11 місяців тому

      Me recuerda cuando veo películas ambientadas en los virreinatos de America pero con pronunciación moderna del español 😅

  • @SanDeezyBreezy61986
    @SanDeezyBreezy61986 Рік тому +3

    What is King Louis saying to the bishop in French? And what does he say when he’s putting his gloves on?

  • @ciroalb3
    @ciroalb3 2 роки тому +7

    good scene, but it's not quite the image I have of Louis XVI. He would have been quite a young man, 24, but
    I think he would not have been so comfortable and commanding as king. He was always much more comfortable
    as a private person working on his locks. At court he would have been more stiff and a little awkward

    • @royalhero4608
      @royalhero4608 2 роки тому

      I read a biography of him, and the author suggested he would have been far more comfortable being a private tutor or teacher, than a king. I think he's a very tragic figure

  • @DovZeev
    @DovZeev Рік тому +3

    I didn't think the king was being rude, but he was certainly being dismissive and clearly himself knowing some English, could've made an effort.

    • @Threshk
      @Threshk Рік тому

      But that's the whole point of acting. Being someone youre not.

    • @MrZackavelli
      @MrZackavelli Рік тому +1

      @@Threshk He's talking about the character, not the actor

  • @emameyer
    @emameyer Рік тому +1

    America was the best investment France ever made.

  • @BloodOfYeshuaMessiah
    @BloodOfYeshuaMessiah 2 роки тому +23

    *if Franklin and Adams could have found better allies than the French from whom to borrow money to fund the war…they would have.*

    • @BloodOfYeshuaMessiah
      @BloodOfYeshuaMessiah 2 роки тому

      @@jayjones722 that is true.

    • @srichardf
      @srichardf 2 роки тому +1

      Well that's not all of it though. After the Battle of Yorktown which ended with the surrender of Cornwalis the British while at first forced determined to continue the fight. In fact when a siege fired was ordered George Washington was making preparations to begin to take New York City from British control (as losing New York was humiliating for him). However the war grew unpopular with the British public and an election was held in which the Tory government that was determined to continue fighting lost control of Parliament and the new Whig government ordered a siege fire and began peace negotiations. At the peace negotiations in Paris, France was ultimately cut out of the negotiations and got nothing out of the Treaty of Paris 1783. The French were upset about this as they felt that by aiding the U.S. War for Independence that they could regain some of what they lost in the Seven Years War (called the French and Indian War in the U.S.).

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 2 роки тому

      Adams wasn't a very shrewd diplomat; like in Hungary he tried to borrow money, and they were hesitant because he might not be able to pay it back; so he didn't even raise the interest-rate, by explaining the vast riches in America.

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 2 роки тому

      @@jayjones722 WIn-win!

  • @Anonymoususer44569
    @Anonymoususer44569 3 роки тому +10

    1:52 when your parents make a joke and you need money

  • @jeffallcock2594
    @jeffallcock2594 2 роки тому +26

    In which Adams shows much less deference to the king who saved his country than he does later to the king who attempted to enslave it.

    • @xavier01110
      @xavier01110 2 роки тому

      Which king attempted to enslave the United States? It was certainly not George III.

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 2 роки тому

      @@xavier01110 Yes, he OWNED the country. They were trying to steal it.

    • @reidparker1848
      @reidparker1848 7 місяців тому

      The Fr*nch are clowns, though.

  • @Zwei4815
    @Zwei4815 Рік тому +3

    This is like taking your daughter to see the king without enough points in Decorum.
    "Hi King!"
    "Who is this child?? Get her out of here!"

  • @Owlandpie
    @Owlandpie 11 місяців тому +2

    What series/movie is that whole thing coming from?

  • @mattc9998
    @mattc9998 2 роки тому +6

    The words on the front façades of the palace shouldn't be there at this time. They were added by Napoleon III in the 19th century when he turned Versailles into a museum to "all the glories of France", hence the wording.

    • @babyinuyasha
      @babyinuyasha Рік тому

      If I'm correct, they used the real palace for the set

    • @mattc9998
      @mattc9998 Рік тому

      @@babyinuyasha That's great, but they could have edited the text out. It's a bit like filming a 19th century period drama in central London and including a WWII memorial in the background.

  • @ianinkster2261
    @ianinkster2261 2 роки тому +7

    Disappointing to find the King of France to be Ben Shapiro.

    • @jimmy2k4o
      @jimmy2k4o 2 роки тому

      Facts don’t care about your peasant feelings.

  • @dghkjfgiig6978
    @dghkjfgiig6978 2 роки тому +4

    You would have thought that King Louis would be more concerned with domestic policy than in entertaining foreign dignitaries. After all the French people were rising up against him as he spoke

    • @victorbergman9169
      @victorbergman9169 2 роки тому +6

      Not until 1789

    • @declandonahue592
      @declandonahue592 2 роки тому

      I’m coming to this comment to say the same thing about Obama/bush/Joe Biden and ppl still not understanding the trump presidency! But history awaits us!

    • @declandonahue592
      @declandonahue592 Рік тому

      @@cg-691 destruction of middle class while between bush/obama we invaded over 8 nations. LOL who cares?!? surely history wont!

    • @billymarino4452
      @billymarino4452 Рік тому +1

      The big problem with Louis was that, until the end relatively speaking, he believed that the discontent was more from the Parisians rather than the French as a whole. He overestimated the support he thought he enjoyed from the common folk in France.

    • @johnroscoe2406
      @johnroscoe2406 Рік тому

      @@declandonahue592 stop drinking the kool aid Trump's going to jail. Where he belongs.

  • @michaelfitzgerald38
    @michaelfitzgerald38 27 хвилин тому

    The French king can laugh all he wants but we know how his story ends.

  • @brunol-p_g8800
    @brunol-p_g8800 4 місяці тому +1

    For Adams, ambassador to France , to be unable to speak the International language of the time which was French, what’s more in France, really is a joke and if it wasn’t for Franklin, nobody would have ever cared about him.

  • @Wayoutthere
    @Wayoutthere Рік тому +1

    'Je m'appelle OMLET DU FROMAGE' eerrr fk it.

  • @killerbyte7252
    @killerbyte7252 4 місяці тому

    I can imagine the moment they realize "Wow we are working with the French, we really aren't British now"

  • @Thierry_La_Fraude
    @Thierry_La_Fraude Рік тому +4

    Virgin non french speaker VS CHAD Fluent in english french King

  • @ludwik7326
    @ludwik7326 15 днів тому

    As a French, I have no Idea why Louis XVI is so poorly portrayed in nearly every movie he's in, the man was very tall (1m92), and very intelligent, he loved science and geography, and he was a very compassionate guy, he deeply cared about his people and was not a brainless mean despot as he is often depicted. Historians today agree that he was a man of good intention who unfortunately got overwhelmed by the events surrounding him and his kingdom, and he most likely paid for the errors of his ancestors

  • @ijunkie
    @ijunkie Рік тому +3

    @1:20 John Adams would have been able to converse in Latin as required by college education at that time.

  • @funnydylan9834
    @funnydylan9834 4 місяці тому

    I like the fact the king of France can take a joke. He respectfully understood that Adam’s didn’t speak his language and took it humorously instead of insulting.
    1:44
    “Sir, Mr Adam’s doesn’t speak a word of French.”
    “(Laughs) Not a word! (Proceeds to giggle and laugh)”

  • @tibsky1396
    @tibsky1396 Рік тому +2

    I don't think this scene really existed, Adams could speak French. It was the lingua franca of the time, especially in diplomacy.

    • @mark5071
      @mark5071 11 місяців тому

      He learned French in France.

  • @tridevichamundamandirwithy6282
    @tridevichamundamandirwithy6282 9 місяців тому +1

    That Louis XVI was always losing his head over something!

  • @Pandacous
    @Pandacous Рік тому

    He met the kid ruled by the powerful people around him for sure

  • @gobanito
    @gobanito Рік тому +1

    Its good to be the king.

  • @timheavrin2253
    @timheavrin2253 9 місяців тому +1

    Little wonder the little king lost his head not long after this.

  • @edienandy
    @edienandy 9 місяців тому

    Aaaw the king is adorable

  • @user-gg5fm1uj6i
    @user-gg5fm1uj6i 2 місяці тому +1

    1:41 lol he speaking english

  • @RoundenBrown
    @RoundenBrown Рік тому +4

    Me when I walk into a Mexican supermarket

    • @Agent1W
      @Agent1W Рік тому

      I doubt they're the same high-handed about it if you no hablas español.

  • @JoeKlunder1
    @JoeKlunder1 3 місяці тому

    This was Louis XV or Louis XVI? (I always get these last lines of King Louis, Absolute Monarch, mixed up).

  • @skywishr1313
    @skywishr1313 6 місяців тому

    Wow...the past reflects the present so much. I understand the present even more...and I am just talking about Americans, not so much Europeans but I'm guessing it's still the same.

  • @dewelr121
    @dewelr121 Рік тому +1

    Conservatives: Men should not wear wigs, act effeminate or wear makeup
    King Louis: Hold my Crown!!

  • @jeffersondahmer5330
    @jeffersondahmer5330 2 роки тому +1

    I like how the French are wearing corpse paint

  • @josephbateman7742
    @josephbateman7742 9 місяців тому

    What is uniquely American about this is that after centuries of European conflict, the king of france is entertaining the son of a candlemaker and the son of a farmer.

  • @justinferrell5369
    @justinferrell5369 Рік тому +1

    Laugh it up baguette boy you've got a few years left before heads start to roll.

  • @commandoslayer
    @commandoslayer 2 роки тому +1

    Why does it say in Wikipedia that John Adams was fluent in French?

    • @MrZackavelli
      @MrZackavelli Рік тому

      I imagine an embarrassing incident like this probably motivated him to learn French

    • @commandoslayer
      @commandoslayer Рік тому

      @@MrZackavelli So it was afterward that he became fluent. I thought one could only achieve fluency in another language during childhood.

  • @aperson22222
    @aperson22222 Рік тому +1

    I feel like Franklin would not have spoken with so thick an accent.

  • @GardenerTobak
    @GardenerTobak 11 місяців тому +1

    What movie is this from? It looks like it would be interesting to watch. Please let me know.

  • @debbiemetke5938
    @debbiemetke5938 2 роки тому +1

    Seems to me that Ben Franklin could have warned Adams what he would encounter - and helped him out a bit.

  • @Frank-il3kt
    @Frank-il3kt Місяць тому

    Prussian King Frederick II was still the most badass of Kings.
    Rugged, yet exemplary

  • @cristiancamiloalzateaguila9486
    @cristiancamiloalzateaguila9486 3 роки тому +33

    I feel bad for Adams for his lack of French.. As well as I feel bad when someone is discriminated for not speak English...

    • @AndyP998
      @AndyP998 2 роки тому +5

      Yes but during those times, french was official diplomatic language

    • @alessandro348
      @alessandro348 2 роки тому +2

      The real Adams did pick up French pretty quickly.

  • @AprilGhouls
    @AprilGhouls Рік тому +2

    I wonder if this is how non western/ Allied nations see America and our government staff.

  • @MiniUsyk
    @MiniUsyk Місяць тому

    Do u like French tarts?
    Oui.

  • @Oregonluxury
    @Oregonluxury 7 місяців тому

    Bazamooo?🤨 BAZZAMMOOOO 😂🎉🤣

  • @andrewg.carvill4596
    @andrewg.carvill4596 2 роки тому +12

    I think the King, by long years of training and experience, wouldn't have laughed at an ambassador to his face, especially the ambassador of a country the French were hoping to enlist as an ally against Great Britain. It would have made France look like an uneducated backwater....oops!

    • @Treblaine
      @Treblaine 2 роки тому +20

      The king of France making a political blunder that costs him dearly? Hmm, well, nothing to lose your head over.

    • @hugolxxx
      @hugolxxx 11 місяців тому

      The usonians needed the french far more than the french needed the usa. In fact the french would be better off not helping at all

  • @glorfindelchocolateflowery6392
    @glorfindelchocolateflowery6392 2 роки тому +2

    All those men are dressed nice but none of them hardly washed. Nasty

  • @nasisimi1
    @nasisimi1 11 місяців тому +1

    It didn't matter if he was able to speak French in that moment anyway. No business would have been spoken anyway.