How Is Music Stored On Vinyl Records?
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2015
- Have you ever wondered how sounds are recorded onto disks and records?
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I’m beginning to think no one really understands how sound gets on the record
I've gone through several videos and I still don't understand it @___@
It's electricity.... The tiny grooves essentially create "waves" of sound. Inside the needle is a magnet and electricity, when the vinyl spins you put the needle on it, the needle rubs the grooves which generates electricity, that electrical pulse is sent to the record player's Amplifier then sound is generated. Keep in mind before ANY of this happens. music is recorded and mastered on Tape then transferred to vinyl.
@@EvoSchecter How does one "groove" contain a multitude of distinct instruments & sounds and differing pitches/volumes and in more than mono?
I’VE WATCHED ALL THE VIDEOS, STILL REMAINS UNANSWERED💀💀💀
I have searched exhaustively and you are correct, nobody seems to actually know and i am pretty sure that confirms we are in some kind of simulation, lol.
Is it just me, or did she not explain anything?
+Jay Westerlund What she did explain was the history of vinyl being created but nothing about the science of it. The headline is misleading for sure.
but she spoke with gerat confidence of an utter ignorant repeating after whom he is looking up to ... she looks great though
lol a year leave but whatevs. what I got from this vid was that you spoke into some machine and it jiggles a thing that etches grooves in a disk that can be replayed. but that's literally all I got from it
Justin Gabiosa true lol. What I want to know is how making grooves on a vinyl makes them 'remember' unique sounds such as a human voice. I mean, if I scratch random grooves on a vinyl, can it produce human voices that I've never heard before?
hahah
Now the real question is : how do you store music in a vinyl?
Underrated comment
By playing and recording music on tape and etching only the waves onto vynil
Still doesn't make any sense to me
Would've liked to hear a more detailed explanation from the recording to the reproduction process of a Vinyl.
It's witchcraft
+XpertCameraMan In essence you can have a membrane, say, metal foil covering carbon (just to say something). That membrane will vibrate in different ways to the tune of ambient noises and if you attach a needle to an extreme of it you can make it scratch a softer surface (a rotating one so it doesn't overwrite). Later you can use another needle to go over the previously dug tracks and the scratches on those tracks will make the needle vibrate pretty much like the previous needle vibrated due to the foil-carbon membrane vibration. You can transfer this vibrations to wider and wider surfaces to amplify it's volume until it becomes audible. So put it simple, you are storing on a medium the mechanical twists required to produce specific vibrations.
Sean Cross assuming your picture is of you... then i doubt much makes sense to you. you look really fucking stupid.
Okay, but what I don't get is this. If I were to make those same pits and bumps into a fresh vinyl record, would it produce that same music?!? Of course not, so that's where I'm confused. Can you please explain??
I still don't have a clue how it actually reads little grooves and transfers that into sound through speakers. Mind boggling really
For real it’s been driving me insane
@@lotenofficial me too. Same with computers and microchips. Cameras and videos too. I feel like I'm in the Truman Show!
Thomas Edison said "I have never been so taken aback in my life as when I played back the first record."
When Thomas Edison made the first record and played it back it was him saying "Mary Had a Little Lamb whose fleece was white as snow, Ha ha ha" and when he played it back everybody in the room was shocked! I mean seriously shocked.
vinyls are basically audio braille
then don't spell it
Oubre GOAT what are “vinyls”???
TSA Master too bad
Yes
Thank you, your explanation made me understand how , than this whole video.
You didn't explain how vinyls are made. This video should be titled, "History of Vinyls and Anatomy of a Vinyl Player/Turntable"
JustDave no such thing as “vinyls”.
But it's about how music is stored on it, not how it is made.
Thanks for the comment. Saved my 3 minutes
I can’t even get my mom to close my door in my room when she leaves, how the hell were people able to put sound waves on a disc wtf
Lmao I have the same question, that’s why I watched this video. Anyways, does anyone know the answer?
the vibrations reach out to your eardrums and then you get sound and pitches
A record is an experience beyond what youtube can give. The cover art. The inner art. Pictures. They come with so much more flare 😀
Im here cuz I need to know how music is stored in a vinyl record, not to take history Classes...
There's No Need To Talk Like This.
Type* Also My Point Is Valid Therefore There Is A Reason To "TALK" Like This...
Rachel Farris Then Why Are You Doing It?
Ashrith Dubbaka You're Doing It Too! Oh Wait
NyanimeGamer it's like brail that blind people touch but each peace of brail is unique witch makes different frequency so a band plays in a recording booth the speakers pick up the frequency of there instruments and voices and the diamond needil comes down on a flat sheet of vinyl and indents the brail frequency and that's what the tracks are on a record brail frequency indented by a diamond needil
a 30 year old record can sound better than a 3 year old CD. now I don't hate CDs I just like Vinyl more than CDs.
True,I listened to Vinyl way more than CD now,it's the back catalog of Vinyl that won me over CD,it offered me far more than CD and SACD can ever dream of.
And I get surprises on many Vinyls and Artists that I never heard of!
I only buy CD for newer and good stuff,anything music released before 1985 I would buy on Vinyl.
+Barebare kun hopefully vinyl will overthrow the Mp3. maybe even the CD.
MP3 ugh we better be off without that terrible format.
CD had its run but stupid greedy people and companies exploiting CD's convenient and ease of production and MP3 follow same shit,
quantity and money over quality and artistry.
I mean sure you can make money on records
but its more $$$ on non-tangible music files right?
+Barebare kun I don't hate CDs or Mp3s. when I'm on my way to school I just use my phone. when I'm in my bedroom it's mostly vinyl and sometimes cds.
I didn't hate CD as well but i just telling what had happened to CD..
MP3 are good for casual voice recording and some convenient listening but really if I have to use lossy format I would rather use AAC or even the poor old ATRAC.
I write record and mix my own music, and have done so for years. When I started listening to vinyl again, what technically stood out for me was that I could hear the mid-range better. Specifically notes that were audible to me in mixes I'd long since gotten used to on CD. The first time I really heard it was Tool's Lateralus album. A fantastic piece of recording engineering to start with, it just POPPED out of that vinyl.
Old records that I had stopped listening to on CD came back to life. They were badly mastered and the CD's ability to push out so much bass I think caused engineers to go crazy for awhile. Bass eats every other frequency in the mix so too much of it just crushes the energy of the mids (which are right next to it).
That's why they sound warmer, coming back. Recorded bass should probably always be shelved off at 40hz, because below that you are only feeling notes you aren't hearing them.
I say this as a bass player with a lifetime's frustration of mixing basses. It really is the case that you gotta take that super low frequency out or you won't hear any bass. Or any mid.
I noticed no one has commented or even liked your comment- I’m glad I’m the first 😁. Not many people understand audio production, I’m not even sure I understand it, lol but I’ve been recording, mixing and mastering for a few short years and your experience and description called out to me. It’s a shared language that producers pick up on I guess, thank you for sharing 👍🏼
I do listen to vinyl. There's something about it that I love
for me. i collect and clean records from the 70s and 80s always prefering them over CDs. but new albums really depends on the who. like Adele was okay on vinyl but Dream Theater and Rush sound incredibly amazing!
I've given up buying CD's for life. I will only buy records from this day onwards.
And that's vinyl.
same ily 💞
+TheYafaShow ok mr hipster
I've given up buying CDs but not for the same reason as you, YafaShow. I gave up because too often I buy compilations which include "sound-alike" versions passed off as original, This infuriated me enough to no longer buying commercially-made CDs but instead make my own to play in my car. That way I CAN guarantee the authenticity of the version of any song I include on those CDs..
Omg was that a pun for final? 😂
XD
but how are the etches in the disk read... that was not clear enough 😖
Yeah that was the whole point of me wanting to watch this video.
Yes!!!! I need to fucking know too!!! If I don't understand soon, I'm gonn start thinking that this is all a lie, that we are in some sort of matrix world lmao
It's insane how people come up with things like this. If it was just me and my friends on the planet the best technology we would have would be a sharp stick. Watching these types of videos makes me realize how I will live and die and it won't matter cause I've contributed nothing that will help or be remembered after my death.
edgy
Your comment will be read by generations to come
yeh didn't explain anything
Zero fucks given for vinyl over here. :D
Beats mp3 for quality.
university of utubes/jewtubes Good thing we have other types of digital audio that beat both mp3's and vinyl.
InMaTeofDeath What's that?
***** Yeah I have some of those files. I'm not against mp3 either because without it I wouldn't get to experience a massive amount of music. I think how the music was recorded is the biggest part anyway.
Goddamn the gene pool was kind to that pretty young thang Julia.
I like both. I love analog because of the harmonic distortion that gives warmth. I love digital because it's convenient but can still sound awesome.
1:57 i wonder if she likes it curved or straight
I gotta imprint my vibrations on her tin foil-covered tubes. Growl.
i have a question for DNews can bass hurt you ?? i got a car With over 40.000 watts of bass do you know if ther is any long tørme effect it playes 159 db on 38 Hz ??
My question is how does it recognize whether it is a piano or a violin or guitar that is playing the chord. Because on the vinyl the A chord is simply that; an A chord. How does it "know" whether to play the A Chord as a Piano,violin or any instrument
Dynaquad records were also created to produce quadraphonic sound some thing I thought was cool. Not very popular but still they basicly could play back 4 separate channels independent of each other amazing. Vinyl holds more information than an mp3 or other formats like that as it replays back to tou levels sound and volume but form over performance is the way of this world now days, records might sound better but you cant put a turntable in your pocket :P
Vinyl Records > CDs
Yup.
Yup.
(I feel like we've got a really deep conversation going here XD.)
...could there be*. And how do you know what kind of person I am from a single-worded, youtube video comment? XD
No.
Whoa....hold on now partner, them figh'n words.
I still listen to records i love my records and your right is does give a certain feeling when placing it on the turn table. Granted I own CDs to but i love my records.
just like something was explained in this video @_@
how is music stored on vinyl >>> it is grooved! (wow...genius!)
Can you do one about
Digital recording all those 1s and 0s how they make sound
*****
well that has more to do with binary and programming then with music.
you can convert binary to numbers (or even to letters and words) so the computer converts it to numbers/words and reads what sound it should make. for instance, this binary says "hello":
0110100001100101011011000110110001101111
+TheDesius Cool Digital is amazing
Great info, please make video on how does cassete tape work? i mean how does they store music in string of plastic right
Vinyl over digital 10/10. Nothing will beat that amazing quality
It’s sounds better because it can reproduce the entire audio spectrum with overtones which rounds the sound out that is heard naturally by the human ear. Digital sampling cuts much of the overtones out. So too pristine.
When voice makes vibrations, it moves back and forth, if you put a needle on that "back and forth" then that needle punches a groove on the surface, and depending on how strong or weak the vibration is, the needle goes deeper or shallower on the surface of the MASTER copy. No actual sound is store, just a mark that, when scratched by the needle, reproduces the same sound that produced the mark. Think of the needle as your fingers on a guitar and of the grooves and ridges (the holes punched) as the surface where the stings lie or a hard comb with nail moving fast over each of them, producing that "clink" sound. It is just the stylus scraping the grooves and it actually sounds just like the sound that caused those groves to be made. HOPE THAT HELPS A LITTLE>
Heres is the entire process (vid is actually short)
The way I see it, is that I want the clearest, most "perfect" sound when listening to some great music. I want to be able to hear the instruments clearly, I want to hear the lyrics clearly, so that I can appreciate the music to the fullest (if you haven't figured it out by now, no, I'm definitely not talking about modern pop). Vinyl just isn't that perfect, there's all kinds of other noises that I don't want to hear, that weren't part of the original piece. Besides, still listening to vinyl is just kind of... hipster-ish. Although the points she mentioned in the video, about as to why someone chooses to listen to vinyl, are understandable.
To be completely honest I really like that "sssshhhhh" sound of those old 38's played on old Victrolas and Brunswick gramophones
*cough*hipster*cough*
That's not hipster-ish, that's what a hipster does
aDotFromTheFuture or maybe you would just prefer a little bit of sentimental value in owning a record with a spread of cover art that you can collect and pass on
Luke Andrew I do own records, but no in a vinyl form, instead I've decided to stick with CD's.
Luke Andrew
well im pretty sure people say it sounds warmer and fuller because they record in analog so they never miss anything out but digital depending on the quality miss out a lot or a little bit of the music recorded. but the issue with vinyl is that over time it warps and wont sound the same anyway
I would have liked more details like how stereo recordings are both horizontal and vertical movement etc. Did this give anyone any new knowledge?
0:20- Audiophile, audio file
*Mind blown.*
Can u explain that again but a little differently or better plz.
2:38 MEME that, and that 2:49.
On it
I get how the sound is converted from bumps in the grooves, what i've never understood is how you get stereo from that!
Do you get stereo from it though?
Benny Kolesnikov Yes. Vinyl records can for sure produce stereo sound.
***** the bumps in the grooves are on the sides of the grooves to varying degrees. The stylus in the cartridge doesn't detect in say an up down movement but more of to a slight left and right. That's why the bigger bumps, the bass bumps need to -sit more in the middle- be a horizontal movement (edit: I had my dual mono axis confused). Which still works well in the real world, bass coming from left and right in more of a stereo image rather than dual mono would create cancelling.
The bumps in the middle would come out both speakers equally (but opposite polarity, cancelling), the bumps more to one side would come out that side (it might be the opposite side) more than the other.
***** well prepare to blow your mind... you can get 32+ channels of audio through one wire, if that wire is an optical cable. and you can get 100000000000000+ channels of audio through one wire, if that one wire is an Ethernet cable.
mitchiemasha this.... is not accurate.
I grew up in the 1970's. We called them "Record Players" we called the vinyl discs "Records", or simply "Albums", we called the 45's "Singles" The recording on these records are the exact sound waves recorded onto master tapes in the Recording Studios. In manufacturing these "Records" a tin plate or metal plate was created with the grooves (sound waves) imprinted on them which then were used to press onto the vinyl as a machine pressed the tin or metal master onto a glob of heated vinyl pressing it into a 12" 33 1/2 rpm Record or a 7" 45 rpm Record. The sound from vinyl is much better than a digital code, download, compressed file or from a CD which its music information is pressed on to the CD similar to how a vinyl record is. However with the vinyl record you are practically reproducing the original music from the actual original recording via grooves pressed onto the vinyl which are the original studio sound waves of the recording. You don't get that pure great sound from today's music technology.
does anybody know how to record music onto a Vinyl record? I'm releasing an album and am planning on buying a blank Vinyl record when I'm finished with it, so I can put my logo/album art in the place of the Vinyls blank label, and also make a inner and outer sleeve for it, and put it In a Vinyl frame to hang it on the wall; I'm not really 'planning' on listening to it, but it would be cool to actually have my music on it. If I can't then someone please tell me a company or two I can contact to get it released on Vinyl that way
guys, she did explain, it was just hard to catch on, but she did throw a bit of unwanted history in there, anyway, what it is is little sits in the disc that holds sound, and when the needle scrapes it, it releases the song
Hi, sorry, I think I missed the part where the title of the video is relevant to the video?
i was hoping for a close-up look at the record, or animated close up view of how it works. I googled microscopic view of a vinyl record. Its interesting, but my brain still doesn't fully understand how vibrations from ridges on vinyl can make such a clear sound.
Everyone says vinyl sounds better, but I cant get past the grinding sound i hear instead of the music. Vocals are nearly impossible for me to hear over the gargling sounds. Im seriously thinking about seeing a specialist because im the same way with live music too. I can't understand it. Im kind of worried about it
I was hoping for an explanation but this didn’t help.
How is that someone can crank out a guitar solo, record it and somehow when I play a vinyl, the whole song and more are on the vinyl?
Either I’m not smart enough to understand it which I’d be okay with OR no one really knows 😅
I play vinyl more than i play digital
*****
Im dead serious, im not trolling
This doesn't answer the question though. You explained the grooves, yes, but i still dont get how the grooves cause the different sounds. If it's playing back a wave from the groove, how does this singular wave encompass and play back multiple waves produced by different instruments in a piece?
+FearTheBeans Hard to explain through text, look up harmonics, also this image laser.physics.sunysb.edu/~angela/report/complextone.png
Digital in in paper is superior to vinyl period. But vinyl has a signature sound which appeal to many people and is better recorded or pressed. CDs still superior that vinyl in paper, but due to poor recording vinyl are better than CDs. And the presentation in of the vinyl is way better than CDs, Cds come in a cheap plastic case are easy scrachables, Vinyl usually have an excellent presentation make you feel like you money was worth it.
I say records do sound better than digital,when I hear the comparison to a song on a record and to one on my phone,the record gives of a more warm feeling almost like that’s the song in its most purest state that’s what I think.you can also hear the difference
The "warmness" people hear about vinyl is not so much related to the vinyl, but more to the amplification system. Also, the music in modern vinyls are recorded using digital systems and then transferred to the vinyl using digital to analog converters. And finally, that "warmness" is nothing but distortion and filtering. They do sound cool, though.
I understand now how pitch is stored, but I don't understand how tone is stored and played? How can a speaker sound like a person? How can the speaker sound like different people?
That is the longest neck I've ever seen
I've only listened to vinyl records a couple times, but they do sound better, more alive.
I was hoping for a more zoomed in look at vinyl and maybe a 'see it made' video
Vinyl can sound better than CD, but with higher cost and much more endeavor. For hardcore audiophiles, not only do they purchase top quality vinyl equipment, they also re-adjust their system every times before they listen to music. If you have such an enthusiasm, vinyl can sound better than CD for sure.
Well, that really depends. I've heard lots of good recorded vinyl from 70's and 80's. They sounds natural and analog, something digital music does not have. Nowadays most of the vinyl are converted from digital format, many of them just sounds like CDs
i just want to know how the words and all the instruments are heard.
digital is the future. no discs or crazy extra equipment. just days of songs stored in a box the size of a deck of cards and audio you can equalize to how you like it.
Ok so how do u put music on a blank vinyl record at homs
I've been thinking about this and how sound gets on cassette and also how does the light of a computer screen and everything get on the computer 🤣
Ahh that’s why it’s called a Grammy
FLAC is the best for me. Can be played on Android phone, Windows and Linux PC. Don't require large physical Media. Is small enough (MB), supports tags and plays excellent quality music.
I do enjoy the sound of a record though. I think nowadays it has more to do with the quality of speakers or headphones and having the EQ just right. Records though, those are much more tangible, that I agree with.
maybe it sounds better because mp3 even to this day cut frequencies to compress the file size mashing out the spectrum, might not hear (literally) the deep hum of a kickdrum but sub sonic waves can create a knock that digital has to recreate when it is played.
it's called why .flac/.alac was I vented as a lossless audio type to compensate for .mp3 cutting the frequencies
invented*
The mastering on a lot of Vinyls is significantly better than their CD counterpart, especially when looking at the Loudness War-impacted records.
good info cheers
But wait! 1:00 Isn't the first attempt made by Édouard-Léon Scott?
what's the hosts name?
+6cmh3 darude -san o wait...
So, how is music stored in vinyl disc?
Fine, erm...but how is it stored?
Ok but how do the labels create the “grooves” for an album? This is so confusing
It's vinyl. No need to explain its appeal...
Влад Борисыч then why are you watching this
Влад Борисыч
Yeah it’s stupid
I grew up around multiple music formats, cassette, records, and Compact Discs, so I guess you can say it can go either way, but if anything people shouldn't argue over what format is the best, I would say for those arguing over it to just chill out and appreciate whatever the fuck you have as a means of listening to music, since at least you can afford whatever equipment you have at the moment, it's better than nothing. or work hard to earn the money and save it up to buy what you prefer, and if you don't have the patience, either try looking up how to make a homemade music player of your preferred format, or learn to be patient.
Hey guys! I made a documentary style short film last year about record collectors called "Gathering Grooves"! It was my major work for university last year, it's on my channel!
Vinyl is the BEST. Period.
Çerastes yep.
Definitely,
YES
I collect vinyls (mainly buy albums I love and historically significate ones from my teens and college days), but I tend to listen to digital music. I like newer music digitally, and it could be because my record player isn't a great one. The argument that vinyl sounds better is of ones taste, but my friend worked for a local high-end audio/video store and had me listen to a Tool album "Aenima" from 1996 a few years ago. It was a regular CD. It sounded absolutely like I'd never heard it before. I don't know the brands of equipment (I'm sure McIntosh was the $5,000 receiver), but the tower speakers were $15,000 for the pair, so it probably depends on your equipment. If you can't afford equipment that is high priced and you want to make your music sound good. Do drugs.
if you play all of the Martinville's Recordings at the same time it is a message from the alians
At parts the background music sounds like back c minor or am I just crazy
You got it wrong. Its stylus to cartridge to headshell to tonearm. The tonearm can be straight or "S" shaped. Still a good video.
All I want to know is how far does a single song from the album takes space on the vinyl...
Slooooow dooooown!! That's a lot of info jammed into 3min. My head is spinning like a record!
I own a good amount of vinyls but I will not say it is the option for music. While I do enjoy the more raw sound of it, I do not enjoy potentially having my song skip because of potentially various reasons from the needle being defective to the vinyl having just enough dirt that the needle gets pushed out of the proper groove. I'll take digital music over vinyl as my main source of music consumption but I'll get the vinyls for music I truly love and listen to it more raw.
depending on the album vinyl records are great. not exactly the best for industrial metal. but great for the classics, abd also hipster alternative. probably the best vinyl recording I have is "Thick as a Brick" by Jethro Tull
cd's reveal so much more with critical listening, especially a well recorded and mastered CD. but each format is personal choice of course.
1:02 "Do I wanna know!" XD
what about stereo vinyl records?
What's weird to me is how can vinyl produce the same tones that a human voice can or a musical instrument. Or if it's the record player making the sounds, where are the sounds coming from? a sound device like a sound card? It's weird that vibrations alone can mimic the exact sounds that we hear everyday.
This is what our ears do ' the sound of our voices start with vibration which travels through the air til it reaches our ears then a tiny bone inside our ears called the ear drum. picks up the vibrations which in turn starts to vibrate and send that information to our brains where it's translated into sound ' just like how the stylus picks up the vibrations from the grooves in a record and translates it to sound .
i can't wait for film to come back in the same way
Wow i learned so much!
is she Emily (Laura Spencer) from Big Bang Theory!?
she looks damn like her!
bigbangtheory.fandom.com/wiki/Laura_Spencer
My opinion on the subject is that it all starts with the material been recorded; if you listen carefully to the composition, lyrics, music arrangement, the performance and many other aspects of the music from the vinyl gold era, it all starts with great songs, performed by great artists; maybe more of the music recorded to CD from the 2000´s and so on is not as good as the one produced in the 60´s, 70´s and 80´s... for a good example listen to Chicago´s Abba´s Begee´s The Beatles´ Michael Jackson´s Led Zeppelin´s Queen´s Pink Floyd´s records and a host of other artist like them... that was a so different kind of music from the majority of what its been written and produced now, now add "PLUS" the analog distortion and character and great dynamic range of the Vinyl records, maybe this is the answer to the question "Why do people prefer Vinyl vs CD´s"... I wouldn´t like to listen to so many music from today in vinyl, why? because of the lack of music composition, arrangement and production elements that are so important, and many people seem no to care about....
As a record collector, I enjoyed this episode
Girl, I wanted a simple remedial explanation of how records work!!! I didn't understand a single word of this😖 I needed to study before watching this video😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Omg, yes! Vinyl is so much better than digital that's just my opinion though I love holding the record in my hand looking at the pictures and reading the insert Etc
You weren't kidding about those early recording being creepy!
So weird to think that you can listen to something recorded 158 years ago.
that didn't answer the question lol,
how does a needle in a grove capture letters and words?
that speaker clip looks horrible, anyone else spot the creases in the cones gasket?
This is more of a history than an explanation
I listen to Johnny Cash and Hank Williams Sr vinyls everyday, I just love the sound of an old vinyl
no one asked