So i did the repair using the part you suggested and now my controller is constantly moving right. any specific solder spot i should check? i completely removed the replacement and re soldered after it was stuck right and still doing again. Thanks!
Was it drifting to the right before doing the fix? If so, I would check the traces going to the POT that moves right and left just to make sure there is nothing there that was damaged first. Small cracks can be hard to see sometimes. If it wasn't drifting to the right before, then it could be a defective new part or it could have some debris on the inside of the POT that is causing it to not center properly. I'd also check the inside of the POT for any defects or debris too and clean and retest again, otherwise you could always put on your old sticks POT and see if that helps too. Hopefully you can get it working again though!
No they aren’t. That brings up another question but I’m pretty sure you can’t use Hall effect sticks in original Xbox controllers without some additional modifications though. Don’t quote me but I didn’t think they were compatible with the older controllers.
@gamejaeger the hall effect units would in fact require additional logic to process, but that could be small enough to be inserted with on board ASIC piggybacking in the unit, I assume. It's a lot to hope for, maybe too much.
Do you by chance have the screw size at hand for the s-type? Btw, there is a 20 piece of 360 alps on sale from the seller billionshare. I tried to post this earlier in more detail, but I probably said something that YT didn't like, so I am hoping you can figure it out by my limited information.
I just took a look and the bits I use to open those controllers are PH1, however I'm not positive about the exact dimensions of the screws though. Hopefully that helps? There are several sellers that sell these online, you just need to do your research to find good versions, that seller may be one of them too.
Very true, it is difficult to confirm. No, the 360 screws are different. I feel like those are smaller and besides, they are also security torx head screws too. There's also a slight difference between duke and S controller screws too. They look very close but I think the thread size is a bit different.
I updated below the correct part number. I also use CAIG LABORATORIES DeoxIT Fader F100S-L2 Spray, Contact Cleaner/Lube/Protector for Conductive Plastics & Carbon Controls, Metered One-Shot Valve, 57g, Pack of 1 this is not cheap but a can will last years even if you repair ALOT of controllers this cleans and lubracates the variable resistors. I use it in new sticks the lube makes them last longer.. I often just spread the tiny bit hanging on the straw like I said very little last a very long time..
Nice Video mate, but Xbox 360 Analog Sticks don't have the same potentiometer as the original Xbox. Also i would recommend you the Controller Test App for original Xbox. You can load it on your test xbox. It's a little application to test everything directly on the system (: There you'll see that the 360 sticks will not nehave as the original sticks :/
Yes, but they are very similar though. I agree, they don't have the same pots but I don't think you can buy original Xbox replacement sticks anymore from anywhere. If you can, please send me link. I've searched for a long time and its all cheap knockoffs they are nothing like the originals.
@@gamejaeger I was hoping you found any 😂 I don‘t do many controllers anymore, mostly consoles. But I don‘t know where you can find 1:1 replacements sadly :/
lol it's so frustrating no one makes them! Those and replacement Duke shells are needed badly. I'm sure there are a bunch of other replacement parts that aren't made anymore though. I've used old sticks from scrapped controllers before too but that's just not sustainable nor is it as accessible for people either. Unfortunately all of them will wear out at some point and we'll be stuck with whatever is available at that time sadly.
Mouser has the real ones I think about $2.50 each. The sticks shown in this video are not real ALPS Parts ! Alps Alpine RKJXV122400R this one has push down button but not in stock. My bad. I'm looking for a supplier will update i when Ifind a source.. MOUSER has these in stock RKJXV122400R in stock they have the push down.
I was super excited that you posted this! Until I looked at the data sheet on Mouser... Sadly, these are not the same... The click in button for the sticks has a different design and doesn't have any pins to solder into the board at that location. These may be used for the newer consoles but unfortunately I don't think it would work for the Original Xbox. Thank you for posting this though, hopefully someone can direct us to an exact copy eventually.
Nice! Thanks for the update, that looks better. Still strange to me they swapped out the metal cage inside holding the stick with plastic but if these are closer to the originals then this may be my new source for them! I haven't done a deep dive into looking at these but are the potentiometers the same as the originals? or at least closer? Thanks for posting this for everyone! It so hard to find good parts sometimes...
It requires the absolute most basic items to do this, a Phillip's screwdriver and a soldering iron with some solder/ solder wick... I felt time need not be wasted spelling that out lol.
@@gamejaeger The “absolute most basic items” is such a broad generalization lol. Just telling you that as someone who was needing some help from your video, it wasn’t very helpful. I had to go elsewhere to know which tools to have on hand.
I agree, it is a broad generalization... because it requires insanely basic tools as I've already said. If you don't have those 4 items, you're not fixing anything in electronics.
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thx for video also, are this screwes torx with pole inside?
The screws are all Phillips heads for the original Xbox controllers.
@@gamejaeger thats nice, becouse X360 screwes use this weird ones
It is, makes it a lot easier to open the controllers.
So i did the repair using the part you suggested and now my controller is constantly moving right. any specific solder spot i should check? i completely removed the replacement and re soldered after it was stuck right and still doing again. Thanks!
Was it drifting to the right before doing the fix? If so, I would check the traces going to the POT that moves right and left just to make sure there is nothing there that was damaged first. Small cracks can be hard to see sometimes.
If it wasn't drifting to the right before, then it could be a defective new part or it could have some debris on the inside of the POT that is causing it to not center properly. I'd also check the inside of the POT for any defects or debris too and clean and retest again, otherwise you could always put on your old sticks POT and see if that helps too. Hopefully you can get it working again though!
Was hoping these were Hall effect. Still worth it though.
No they aren’t. That brings up another question but I’m pretty sure you can’t use Hall effect sticks in original Xbox controllers without some additional modifications though. Don’t quote me but I didn’t think they were compatible with the older controllers.
@gamejaeger the hall effect units would in fact require additional logic to process, but that could be small enough to be inserted with on board ASIC piggybacking in the unit, I assume. It's a lot to hope for, maybe too much.
Yeah it would require some doing I’m sure. Maybe a daughter board to hold the extras?
Do you by chance have the screw size at hand for the s-type? Btw, there is a 20 piece of 360 alps on sale from the seller billionshare. I tried to post this earlier in more detail, but I probably said something that YT didn't like, so I am hoping you can figure it out by my limited information.
I just took a look and the bits I use to open those controllers are PH1, however I'm not positive about the exact dimensions of the screws though. Hopefully that helps? There are several sellers that sell these online, you just need to do your research to find good versions, that seller may be one of them too.
@@gamejaeger it's hard to verify any of them online. Are the 360 screws the same size?
Very true, it is difficult to confirm. No, the 360 screws are different. I feel like those are smaller and besides, they are also security torx head screws too. There's also a slight difference between duke and S controller screws too. They look very close but I think the thread size is a bit different.
@@gamejaeger I think they are #4-24 5/16". Do not quote me. I will verify.
I suppose you could probably just take one out of a good controller and measure it out to confirm... didn't think of that before.
I updated below the correct part number. I also use CAIG LABORATORIES DeoxIT Fader F100S-L2 Spray, Contact Cleaner/Lube/Protector for Conductive Plastics & Carbon Controls, Metered One-Shot Valve, 57g, Pack of 1 this is not cheap but a can will last years even if you repair ALOT of controllers this cleans and lubracates the variable resistors. I use it in new sticks the lube makes them last longer.. I often just spread the tiny bit hanging on the straw like I said very little last a very long time..
Nice thanks! I'll have to look into that as well.
Nice Video mate, but Xbox 360 Analog Sticks don't have the same potentiometer as the original Xbox. Also i would recommend you the Controller Test App for original Xbox. You can load it on your test xbox. It's a little application to test everything directly on the system (: There you'll see that the 360 sticks will not nehave as the original sticks :/
Yes, but they are very similar though. I agree, they don't have the same pots but I don't think you can buy original Xbox replacement sticks anymore from anywhere. If you can, please send me link. I've searched for a long time and its all cheap knockoffs they are nothing like the originals.
@@gamejaeger I was hoping you found any 😂 I don‘t do many controllers anymore, mostly consoles. But I don‘t know where you can find 1:1 replacements sadly :/
lol it's so frustrating no one makes them! Those and replacement Duke shells are needed badly. I'm sure there are a bunch of other replacement parts that aren't made anymore though. I've used old sticks from scrapped controllers before too but that's just not sustainable nor is it as accessible for people either. Unfortunately all of them will wear out at some point and we'll be stuck with whatever is available at that time sadly.
Nice video! Likeeeeee
Thanks!
Mouser has the real ones I think about $2.50 each. The sticks shown in this video are not real ALPS Parts ! Alps Alpine RKJXV122400R this one has push down button but not in stock. My bad. I'm looking for a supplier will update i when Ifind a source.. MOUSER has these in stock RKJXV122400R in stock they have the push down.
I was super excited that you posted this! Until I looked at the data sheet on Mouser... Sadly, these are not the same... The click in button for the sticks has a different design and doesn't have any pins to solder into the board at that location. These may be used for the newer consoles but unfortunately I don't think it would work for the Original Xbox. Thank you for posting this though, hopefully someone can direct us to an exact copy eventually.
@@gamejaeger RKJXV122400R Mouser RKJXV122400R in stock
Nice! Thanks for the update, that looks better. Still strange to me they swapped out the metal cage inside holding the stick with plastic but if these are closer to the originals then this may be my new source for them! I haven't done a deep dive into looking at these but are the potentiometers the same as the originals? or at least closer? Thanks for posting this for everyone! It so hard to find good parts sometimes...
@@gamejaeger Yes they are 10k ohm . Hope this helps.
Great! Thank you!
Pretty pathetic when the tutorial forgets to tell the user which specific tools are needed.
It requires the absolute most basic items to do this, a Phillip's screwdriver and a soldering iron with some solder/ solder wick... I felt time need not be wasted spelling that out lol.
@@gamejaeger The “absolute most basic items” is such a broad generalization lol.
Just telling you that as someone who was needing some help from your video, it wasn’t very helpful. I had to go elsewhere to know which tools to have on hand.
I agree, it is a broad generalization... because it requires insanely basic tools as I've already said. If you don't have those 4 items, you're not fixing anything in electronics.
@ Yes, 4 basic tools that you forgot to mention.
Its okay if you dont understand why a viewer is annoyed. I shall downvote and move on.
ok bye!