Entering "wu" (the unborn & undifferenciated) state, a very precious method to be nurtured from the source, even forgetting this aim too. Thank you Mr. Dienstmann
I have been meditating off and on for twenty years. This meditation is my next step and you gave me an amazing foundation guiding this in a way that was not intrusive, yet got the idea of no idea across perfectly. Best of luck to you sir in all your endeavors, and thank you for such a wonderful guided presentation. ☯️☸️☦️
Could you do a long version of this with more silence at the end. I have sleep problems and this has been a gem of a meditation to calm the mind. Thank you Mr. Dienstman for this peaceful meditation.
If its still the case id suggest downloading the video and cutting it in some editor (is very easy nowadays). Im sure the guy would not mind if it would help you this much.
I do suggest you listen to the first 3 minutes while you: 1. get comfortable 2. stretch the muscles in your body that are most tense 3. do basic meditation techniques to prepare your body and mind for the awareness meditation Like Mr. Dienstmann said: it's advisable to get into a basic mediation state, so that the big leaps like "let go of everything" are less abstract. If you are already into a state where you are comfortable with letting go of your ego, this meditation goes way, way deeper. Have a good day or night everybody!
Great alternative to many breathing, mantra-based, silent, loving kindness, etc all meditations ... no disrespect to the aforementioned. They can all be useful in their own way to someone.
Beautiful Giovanni, thank you for sharing this. I am also teaching meditation in China and just realized that some of these practices have an ancient root in Chinese wisdom. I practice most of the time ZUOWANG every morning to start the day lite and with a clear mind.
For some reason I just find it so hard to let go, as soon as I feel agitated I feel like I'm doing it wrong and feel agitated that I feel agitated, but I will come back to this and try again
Thanks Giovanni excellent meditation, right out of the Chuang-tze. These practices are usually part of a very vast, deep and profound Taoist system that encompasses Tai Chi, Baguazhang, Taoist Yoga, many sets of Qigong, breathing training, Hsing-I, plus beginner exercises & other meditation practices. I would recommend them as adjuncts to this meditation: for beginners maybe start with the 8 Brocade Qigong set, or the Yang Tai Chi short form. If any viewers are into this enough to do it regularly, definitely seek out a reputable, known teacher nearby or online. Good chi and may your life go well.
this would be a beautiful gateway towards resting in the infinite if you added this at the end of your non-dual meditation. I can't sequence them because of the intro, but try it... it's amazing.
"I'm making progress," said Yen Hui. "What do you mean?" asked Confucius. "I have forgotten rites and music." "Not bad, but you still haven't got it." Yen Hui saw Confucius again on another day and said, "I'm making progress." "What do you mean?" "I have forgotten humaneness and righteousness." "Not bad, but you still haven't got it." Yen Hui saw Confucius again on another day and said, "I'm making progress." "What do you mean?" "I sit and forget." "What do you mean, 'sit and forget'?" Confucius asked with surprise. "I slough off my limbs and trunk," said Yen Hui, "dim my intelligence, depart from my form, leave knowledge behind, and become identical with the Transformational Thoroughfare. This is what I mean by 'sit and forget'." "If you are identical," said Confucius, "then you have no preferences. If you are transformed, then you have no more constants. It's you who is really the worthy one! Please permit me to follow after you."
Interesting. I'm used to simply watching my breath for thirty minutes. I think I will continue that way. Simple is what works for me. Great stuff, Giovanni. Continua a fare queste cose e aiuterai a tantissima gente. I hear an accent and Giovanni is an Italian name. Io sono cresciuto a Napoli!!! N'abbraccio.
I do have a professional question although I know you are busy and if you do not answer I understand. I have reached a depth in my meditation but in deep samadhi I feel as if I cannot breath and I am suffocating. I can feel pressure on my heart when I try to take a deep breath, or for that matter during my breathing which is very shallow and I feel like the pressure is pushing my stomach inward which makes it difficult to breath. It is almost as if the air is being sucked out of me like a vacuum. Tonight in an earlier meditation towards the end I was trying to just stay conscious and not panick due to the feeling of not being able to breathe in. Have you heard of this and do you have any suggestions or resources as so far I cannot find anything on you tube relating to this. This has plagued me for twenty years and I still am at a loss. Thanks again for this meditation and for taking the time to help humanity to wake up. ☯️☸️☦️😊
It is not uncommon for meditators to feel that the breathing naturally stops once the mind gets very still, and that is typically a good thing in terms of meditation progress. It might be that you are having a negative interpretation of that event, at a subconscious level, which is triggering some worry or anxiety about it.
@@Giovanni-Dienstmann Very true. I have been experimenting and feel I need to let the body breathe naturally in that state, or adopt a super slow, intentional and shallow type of breathing. It is not just that the breathing slows but a pressure builds that makes it difficult to breathe in. It’s hard to explain, almost like a reverse pressure making my stomach collapse in. Thanks for taking the time to respond to my question. 🙏
Thank you, Sir, for a wonderful teaching of an advanced technique. Namaste. I am creating an online community on a mission to find our own spiritual path without organized religion. This would be a wonderful tool to consider using. Taoism is a spiritual path and it's not a spiritual path. I would love to collaborate. I will send you a link and I hope to purchase your book soon.
Hi, thanks for this. I have struggled and changed my meditation techniques for years and this seems like a really vertical practice which will be good for me as someone who loves to categorise, confirm and check and then worry lol. Is this the highest level type of meditation which can take you directly the important state?
Guided meditation is not Zuowang. Emptiness does not come while being filled. Listening is not 'forgetting'. Turning inwards does not occur while paying outward attention. Close the ears. Forget all words. Hold on to one-pointed inner focus. Sometimes 'doing non-doing' means literally, simply, and absolutely non-doing. Then it just takes time. Hours, not minutes. There is no 'as if' about the altered state of consciousness which then arises. When it comes, you can not hear, you can not feel. You are fully and solely within the exercise. Then, after much practise, when this state of bodyless absorption is mastered, even that drops away, and just as you became completely free of the body's senses, you become spontaneously free of the mind's faculties, and you are simply effortlessly, senselessly present. Everything but the One Thing that can never be dropped has completely gone. In Sanskrit, they call it oneness with the Brahman, or 'nirvikalpa samadhi'. The Daodejing refers to it as union with the root of all being, the Dao. Daoist philosophy was born from this experience. From 'This'.
Olivia, yes it is part of the challenge. But if you can conceive of a universal, timeless pure consciousness that we are all divinely connected to, it points you in the right direction. The body is just a perception. It isn't really YOU. Our bodies are changing every moment. I am not the same "body " I was 6 months ago or 5 mins ago. But, the awareness is always there -- we are just too conditioned, confused, and distracted to notice the forest because of all of the trees
@@Goto147 Vipassana is from Theravada Buddhism and zazen derives from Zen Buddhism. There are variations in postures of lotus depending on the branch of Buddhism.
@@TahitianBlissMeeBee Vipassana is pali and Vipashyana is Sanskrit. Both meaning insight meditation, in the Buddhist tradition. It is the core practice of any form of Buddhism. zazen is the Japanese term but it is also a form of vipashyana. Similarly, Vajrayana meditations like Dzogchen, Mahamudra are also forms of Vipashyana. In the Theravada tradition vipashyana of 3 marks - impermanence, suffering and non self is done; whereas in Mahayana traditions such as Zen vipashyana of emptiness(shunyata) is done. I hope this clarifies!
Dogen from the soto ken school of thought was no fan of counting breaths, it's seen more as a beginner thing but not common among most zen practitioners.
this might sound weird but it works for me: i resonate with same sound humming it and it goes away. then again i get them infrequently. can't hurt to try. i don't recall where i read this from but i know it was decades ago. hope that however silly this sounds, it works for you as it does for me.
I rebel against anyone telling me to do or feel or forget or breath or let go or exiting ,etc. and when to do it. I can’t beleave the ,,,nerve,,, to tell me what to do like I was born yesterday. Jesus is the one who knows staff and like the Beatles saying ,,,, ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE,,, LA LA LA LA .
great meditation but the sound of you swallowing saliva is really annoyingly unnerving, and unpleasant to listen to it would be best you retecord this meditation .
Your voice is made for this. Such relaxing tone you have. Thank you. 🙏
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Entering "wu" (the unborn & undifferenciated) state, a very precious method to be nurtured from the source, even forgetting this aim too.
Thank you Mr. Dienstmann
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I have been meditating off and on for twenty years. This meditation is my next step and you gave me an amazing foundation guiding this in a way that was not intrusive, yet got the idea of no idea across perfectly. Best of luck to you sir in all your endeavors, and thank you for such a wonderful guided presentation. ☯️☸️☦️
That's wonderful to hear 🙏🏻
Could you do a long version of this with more silence at the end. I have sleep problems and this has been a gem of a meditation to calm the mind. Thank you Mr. Dienstman for this peaceful meditation.
I second this. A longer version would be greatly appreciated.
If its still the case id suggest downloading the video and cutting it in some editor (is very easy nowadays). Im sure the guy would not mind if it would help you this much.
You can put this on its own Playlist and it will repeat for you. Its not a perfect solution, but it helps until he can make a longer one:))
Have you come across metta Brahvanna meditation?
Perfect... I found "nothing" and it was hard to leave. Thank you 🙏
Well said ☯️☸️☯️
for the impatient, the actual meditation starts at 3:12. It's good stuff!
Thank you for this!
I do suggest you listen to the first 3 minutes while you:
1. get comfortable
2. stretch the muscles in your body that are most tense
3. do basic meditation techniques to prepare your body and mind for the awareness meditation
Like Mr. Dienstmann said: it's advisable to get into a basic mediation state, so that the big leaps like "let go of everything" are less abstract. If you are already into a state where you are comfortable with letting go of your ego, this meditation goes way, way deeper.
Have a good day or night everybody!
I have done a similar meditation 🧘♀️ 🙏 😌 ✨️ I need more thank you
Congratulations Giovanni!
As a Kriyaban, I tell you that this guided meditation of yours is excellent!
Great alternative to many breathing, mantra-based, silent, loving kindness, etc all meditations ... no disrespect to the aforementioned. They can all be useful in their own way to someone.
This one is indeed very different and unique.
Beautiful Giovanni, thank you for sharing this. I am also teaching meditation in China and just realized that some of these practices have an ancient root in Chinese wisdom. I practice most of the time ZUOWANG every morning to start the day lite and with a clear mind.
For some reason I just find it so hard to let go, as soon as I feel agitated I feel like I'm doing it wrong and feel agitated that I feel agitated, but I will come back to this and try again
Thanks Giovanni excellent meditation, right out of the Chuang-tze. These practices are usually part of a very vast, deep and profound Taoist system that encompasses Tai Chi, Baguazhang, Taoist Yoga, many sets of Qigong, breathing training, Hsing-I, plus beginner exercises & other meditation practices. I would recommend them as adjuncts to this meditation: for beginners maybe start with the 8 Brocade Qigong set, or the Yang Tai Chi short form. If any viewers are into this enough to do it regularly, definitely seek out a reputable, known teacher nearby or online. Good chi and may your life go well.
Is Chung-ze a person or Lao-ze technique?
Lots of words there pal
@@andyblock152 it is a person. Lao Tze’s disciple
Since we are all the Tao, thank you, myself, and everything simultaneously for this moment. 🙏
We are welcome.
Thanks
Thank you for that
Great meditation. Thank you! Would like to hear more zuowang meditations from you.
this would be a beautiful gateway towards resting in the infinite if you added this at the end of your non-dual meditation. I can't sequence them because of the intro, but try it... it's amazing.
Thanks for the idea.
"I'm making progress," said Yen Hui.
"What do you mean?" asked Confucius.
"I have forgotten rites and music."
"Not bad, but you still haven't got it."
Yen Hui saw Confucius again on another day and said, "I'm making progress."
"What do you mean?"
"I have forgotten humaneness and righteousness."
"Not bad, but you still haven't got it."
Yen Hui saw Confucius again on another day and said, "I'm making progress."
"What do you mean?"
"I sit and forget."
"What do you mean, 'sit and forget'?" Confucius asked with surprise.
"I slough off my limbs and trunk," said Yen Hui, "dim my intelligence, depart from my form, leave knowledge behind, and become identical with the Transformational Thoroughfare. This is what I mean by 'sit and forget'."
"If you are identical," said Confucius, "then you have no preferences. If you are transformed, then you have no more constants. It's you who is really the worthy one! Please permit me to follow after you."
A very Daoistic tale
@@meditationgio it's from chuang tzu
Thank you very much!
Very good I was hoping I could find a man I equivalent in the Taoist tradition. Seems I have I will order your book.
Already feeling relaxed. I’m about half way done & calling it a night. So thank you 🥺🙏
I hope you continue to enjoy this practice 🙌🏻
Interesting. I'm used to simply watching my breath for thirty minutes. I think I will continue that way. Simple is what works for me. Great stuff, Giovanni. Continua a fare queste cose e aiuterai a tantissima gente. I hear an accent and Giovanni is an Italian name. Io sono cresciuto a Napoli!!! N'abbraccio.
Yes, you can stick with whatever works! And I'm actually Brazilian, not Italian ;-)
Really feels great
Thank you so much for this. I am new to this entire practice and it’s amazing how I feel so much better afterwards. Looking forward to more!
Thank you.. so much relief♥️♥️♥️
I saw the raging river but it took me back. ☯️
Excellent. Thank you!
Awesome! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Amazing!❤
Thank you this was lovely I’ve just downloaded your book 🙏
Enjoy the read 🙏🏻👍🏻
This was truly amazing. Wow
I do have a professional question although I know you are busy and if you do not answer I understand. I have reached a depth in my meditation but in deep samadhi I feel as if I cannot breath and I am suffocating. I can feel pressure on my heart when I try to take a deep breath, or for that matter during my breathing which is very shallow and I feel like the pressure is pushing my stomach inward which makes it difficult to breath. It is almost as if the air is being sucked out of me like a vacuum. Tonight in an earlier meditation towards the end I was trying to just stay conscious and not panick due to the feeling of not being able to breathe in. Have you heard of this and do you have any suggestions or resources as so far I cannot find anything on you tube relating to this. This has plagued me for twenty years and I still am at a loss. Thanks again for this meditation and for taking the time to help humanity to wake up. ☯️☸️☦️😊
It is not uncommon for meditators to feel that the breathing naturally stops once the mind gets very still, and that is typically a good thing in terms of meditation progress. It might be that you are having a negative interpretation of that event, at a subconscious level, which is triggering some worry or anxiety about it.
@@Giovanni-Dienstmann Very true. I have been experimenting and feel I need to let the body breathe naturally in that state, or adopt a super slow, intentional and shallow type of breathing. It is not just that the breathing slows but a pressure builds that makes it difficult to breathe in. It’s hard to explain, almost like a reverse pressure making my stomach collapse in. Thanks for taking the time to respond to my question. 🙏
Thank you
That was lovely!
Thank you, Sir, for a wonderful teaching of an advanced technique. Namaste.
I am creating an online community on a mission to find our own spiritual path without organized religion. This would be a wonderful tool to consider using. Taoism is a spiritual path and it's not a spiritual path. I would love to collaborate. I will send you a link and I hope to purchase your book soon.
bliss.
Very nice.
Hi, thanks for this. I have struggled and changed my meditation techniques for years and this seems like a really vertical practice which will be good for me as someone who loves to categorise, confirm and check and then worry lol. Is this the highest level type of meditation which can take you directly the important state?
It's hard to say if it's the highest. It's similar in effect to the Self-Enquiry or "I Am" meditation, and also to Tibetan Mahamudra.
@@Giovanni-Dienstmann Thank you very much
Guided meditation is not Zuowang. Emptiness does not come while being filled. Listening is not 'forgetting'. Turning inwards does not occur while paying outward attention. Close the ears. Forget all words. Hold on to one-pointed inner focus. Sometimes 'doing non-doing' means literally, simply, and absolutely non-doing. Then it just takes time. Hours, not minutes. There is no 'as if' about the altered state of consciousness which then arises. When it comes, you can not hear, you can not feel. You are fully and solely within the exercise. Then, after much practise, when this state of bodyless absorption is mastered, even that drops away, and just as you became completely free of the body's senses, you become spontaneously free of the mind's faculties, and you are simply effortlessly, senselessly present. Everything but the One Thing that can never be dropped has completely gone. In Sanskrit, they call it oneness with the Brahman, or 'nirvikalpa samadhi'. The Daodejing refers to it as union with the root of all being, the Dao. Daoist philosophy was born from this experience. From 'This'.
I'm confused about how you can only be awareness without being aware of your body and surroundings? Was a really good experience though
Olivia, yes it is part of the challenge. But if you can conceive of a universal, timeless pure consciousness that we are all divinely connected to, it points you in the right direction. The body is just a perception. It isn't really YOU. Our bodies are changing every moment. I am not the same "body " I was 6 months ago or 5 mins ago. But, the awareness is always there -- we are just too conditioned, confused, and distracted to notice the forest because of all of the trees
Is this the same as just sitting meditation or zazen? Thank you
Good question. I am not so familiar with Zen. I think the Zen master gives you riddles to interpret as a part of Zen daily practice
nope. zazen is vipashyana.
@@Goto147 Vipassana is from Theravada Buddhism and zazen derives from Zen Buddhism. There are variations in postures of lotus depending on the branch of Buddhism.
@@TahitianBlissMeeBee Vipassana is pali and Vipashyana is Sanskrit. Both meaning insight meditation, in the Buddhist tradition. It is the core practice of any form of Buddhism. zazen is the Japanese term but it is also a form of vipashyana. Similarly, Vajrayana meditations like Dzogchen, Mahamudra are also forms of Vipashyana.
In the Theravada tradition vipashyana of 3 marks - impermanence, suffering and non self is done; whereas in Mahayana traditions such as Zen vipashyana of emptiness(shunyata) is done.
I hope this clarifies!
Zuo Wang in Chinese characters, 🎉坐忘 坐忘，一坐而忘！❤
Using a meditation timer with background music of singing bowls? Counting breaths to 10 as in zazen. Improves zuowant?
Probably not relevant to this particular technique. I would keep it simple and bare.
Dogen from the soto ken school of thought was no fan of counting breaths, it's seen more as a beginner thing but not common among most zen practitioners.
I use very gentle music but is best without it...to remove senses too
nice
I been doing this for year, i thought it was normal meditation
3:09
Thanks. I have tinnitus and makes emptying somewhat difficult. Anyone any suggestions?
Let it be there. Let it be whatever it is, and just remain unconcerned.
@@meditationgio ty
I have heard that having certain music/sounds as background can help.
Tinitus .. i have to .. watch ajhan sumedo about sound of silence
this might sound weird but it works for me: i resonate with same sound humming it and it goes away. then again i get them infrequently. can't hurt to try. i don't recall where i read this from but i know it was decades ago. hope that however silly this sounds, it works for you as it does for me.
But what does Zuowang means?
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It's so difficult 😂😂🤣 but it's relaxing though
try entering the silence,, plz
Lots of words there pal
This is a guided meditation. The words are few yet profound and necessary.
Made me feel nausea. Very strange
This is just a normal meditation 😂
What is a "normal" meditation?
Within a minute 30 I was so disgusted by the marketing & enormous ego, that I would never listen to this person ever again.
And you know what the wise ones say: we see the world as we are.
I rebel against anyone telling me to do or feel or forget or breath or let go or exiting ,etc. and when to do it. I can’t beleave the ,,,nerve,,, to tell me what to do like I was born yesterday. Jesus is the one who knows staff and like the Beatles saying ,,,, ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE,,, LA LA LA LA .
great meditation but the sound of you swallowing saliva is really annoyingly unnerving, and unpleasant to listen to it would be best you retecord this meditation .
Thank you for the feedback.
@@meditationgio you are welcome , and excuse if I was a bit crude and too direct
Amazing. Thank you. 🙏
thank you
Thank you