Shandor reacts to TOMBSTONE (1993) - FIRST TIME WATCHING!!!

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  • @Alcagaur1
    @Alcagaur1 Рік тому +3

    Thousands of others have said it, but the way Kilmer was overlooked for awards for this role is a blot on the records for 1993. From the endless cough, through the simultaneous gun twirls in opposite directions to "My hypocrisy goes only so far." and all points around them, it's a true tour de force. For me, it's one of the very few performances in any kind of action movie in the last 40 years that doesn't get blown away by Ben Kingsley in 2000's Sexy Beast.

  • @KrazyKat007
    @KrazyKat007 Рік тому +19

    Enjoyed your reaction and take to this western classic.
    This is routinely cited as one of Val Kilmer’s greatest performances.
    Another one of Val Kilmer’s greatest performances. His portrayal as Jim Morrison in the 1991 Oliver Stone film “The Doors”.
    So the thing is, most commenters on UA-cam seem to be under the impression that Hollywood has only ever made two westerns.
    Tombstone and Unforgiven.
    It’s become a snake eating its own tail as these two westerns have become the only westerns movie reaction channels watch, thus the only westerns commenters can think to recommend.
    There are many classic westerns going back many decades. And in fact I actually wouldn’t recommend Unforgiven to anyone new to westerns.
    As Unforgiven very much has a meta quality to it that’s essentially lost on you if you’re not genuinely familiar with the genre and its tropes.
    It’s irksome that so many commenters jump to immediately recommending Unforgiven to reactors who’ve never seen any westerns, or barely any.
    There’s a great western that serves an important role in the history of the genre, Hollywood, and the movies.
    “The Wild Bunch” (1969)
    Directed by the great Sam Peckinpah. “The Wild Bunch” was a bit controversial when it came out. It signaled a transition from what’s commonly thought of as the classic golden age of Hollywood into more modern films and a more modern style of filmmaking.
    Highly recommend you check out this classic western.
    It’s a very different kind of film from both the westerns you’ve watched so far.
    “The Wild Bunch”

  • @jasonknight1085
    @jasonknight1085 Рік тому +2

    You commented on things like the color grading and overall cinematography. An older western -- but not too old -- you might enjoy is "Once upon a time in the west". It's not the strongest story or writing, but it is so ridiculously well produced it's often studied in film school. The opening ten minutes alone is a magnum opus of foley work mated to some of the best camera-work ever filmed.
    If you enjoy film geek stuff, it's a film geek movie.

    • @shandoratthecinema4098
      @shandoratthecinema4098  Рік тому

      My father loved that movie so I saw it multiple times. It's a really good movie, and Claudia Cardinale is just... well, I wish I was born 50 years earlier, let's put it that way! :D

  • @matthewfike4491
    @matthewfike4491 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for reacting to this.
    Little Big Man is a western worth watching.

  • @williambranch4283
    @williambranch4283 Рік тому +2

    Wyatt Earp and Bat Masterson were the law in Dodge Kansas. Both moved on ... Masterson became a famous sports reporter in NYC.

  • @christopherbaldwin2005
    @christopherbaldwin2005 Рік тому +2

    In the scene where Ringo twirls the gun, he is scared because Doc watched every single move and repeated iy exactly the same with his cup. Tombstone is still lived in and modern. The "Bird Cage" was a theater; a Brothel (Prostitutes); a Hotel and a bar. To this day there are 144 holes in the roof from gun fire. Wyatt Earp actually co-owned the Oriental Saloon with Milt Joyce.
    The shootout next to C.S.Fly's Photography Studio, commonly called the gunfight at the O.K. Corral was filmed exactly how it happened. Where each man stood; who was shot or killed, everything. The scene at the creek really happened. Wyatt Earp was never ever shot his whole life.
    historically accurate is "The Assassination of Jesse James by The Coward Robert Ford". Thank you for your appreciation of the western genre. You seem to like then very much, as do I.

  • @celestialangel666
    @celestialangel666 Рік тому

    I honestly love little details that Kilmer has as Doc - mostly that when he and Johnny Ringo are facing off, he does the same thing as Johnny but with his cup, and when he does the "I got two guns", he spins one clockwise and one counter-clockwise.
    Granted I'm biased this is one of my favorite Westerns when they're not of the spaghetti variety (similar to Unforgiven, stuff like The Good the Bad and the Ugly or For a Few Dollars More). If you want longer ones with similar camera work and wonderful music, those are good ones to find.

  • @jamesalexander5623
    @jamesalexander5623 Рік тому

    When my Brother moved to Phoenix, I came out to visit and we went to Tombstone! They do reenactments of the Gunfight at the O. K. Corral every day! You can tour the Birdcage Theatre, where they have the Glass Coffins they used in the Movie. Then you go up to Boothill Cemetery where the Bad Guys are buried. The whole town is like a Film Set but loads of Saloons and places to eat. It's a great day out full of Western History!

  • @pudder68
    @pudder68 Рік тому +16

    Can't wait till you see "Dances With Wolves" its a true Hollywood epic in every sense of the word

  • @sectiondrecords4580
    @sectiondrecords4580 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for a great reaction to this movie! Subscribed. This movie is the closest to the true story of all Wyatt Earp movies. I grew up near the town of Tombstone Arizona. The town is still there and looks like the movie. The Earp's and Clanton's still live there and in fact Wyatt Earp III played Billy Claiborne and was in the movie version of the OK Coral gunfight. The Birdcage theater is there with the bullet holes still in the ceiling. Wyatt Earp was a consultant on the early movie westerns. Famous movie cowboys Tom Mix and William S Hart were pallbearers at Wyatt Earp's funeral. Wyatt Earp's saloon, the Oriental is still there and is now a variety store called Eileen's. Many in Tombstone still wear guns. I interviewed one of the Clanton's, a store owner in Tombstone, and he still had nothing good to say about the Earp's.

  • @jonlandin2440
    @jonlandin2440 Рік тому +2

    Also, in real life Doc helped save Wyatt ifrom a gang who had him cornered at a saloon in Texas, before they met up again later.

  • @seansavage4766
    @seansavage4766 Рік тому

    I learned things about this movie watching your reaction...noticed some things that I'd missed over the last 30 years. Good work my man...thanks!

  • @aboutthat1440
    @aboutthat1440 Рік тому +1

    Another visually stunning western is Open Range with Robert Duvall and Kevin Costner. One of my favorite all time westerns. A bit of a slow burn but great build up.

  • @SueProv
    @SueProv Рік тому

    Sheriff White was played by an actor named Harry Carey Jr. He was in many westerns directed by John Ford. His father was also a well known actor Harry Carey Sr. He was in silents and talkies he was a great actor.

  • @SueProv
    @SueProv Рік тому

    The line where Virgil said I still have my good arm to hold you with was really said.

  • @cmccracken5976
    @cmccracken5976 Рік тому

    This is my favorite Western. I live 3 hours from Tombstone. Love to go during Helldorado Days

  • @johnnywhite274
    @johnnywhite274 Рік тому

    Kudos to Kurt Russel . His Wyatt was great but I think his real contribution was having no ego and letting Val Kilmer shine and steal the show as Val put his Juliard training to maximum use here.

  • @karenedwards6713
    @karenedwards6713 Рік тому +1

    There are some really good western movies. One of my favorite is Red River the black and white version with John Wayne. The Shootiest with John Wayne is also good. The Wild Bunch is kinda perfect. The Good the Bad and the Ugly is good for a Spaghetti Western. The sets in that movie are good considering it's suppose to be during the U.S. Civil War but it's filmed in Spain. Westerns were big and they made some good ones so don't just get stuck watching the newer movies. Watch Lawless if you want a movie based on true events and it has some great cinema. It's about the moonshine running in America. I'm so glad you loved this movie, it is one of my favorite.

  • @larrycork49
    @larrycork49 Рік тому +1

    Glad you reacted to this. I really enjoyed your reaction and your appreciation for this great film.

  • @cano21
    @cano21 Рік тому

    Great reaction. Dances with Wolves and Open Range would probably be right up your alley too if you haven't seen them.

  • @asterix7842
    @asterix7842 Рік тому +1

    Definitely the best of the modern westerns, and one of my favorite movies of all time. Some great classic westerns you should check out are High Noon, the original Magnificent Seven, and Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. All of Sergio Leone's spaghetti westerns are great but, in my opinion, the best is Once Upon a Time in the West.
    Another great Kurt Russel film is Escape From New York.

    • @shandoratthecinema4098
      @shandoratthecinema4098  Рік тому

      I've seen Once Upon A Time In The West many times, it was one of my father's favourite movies.
      I definitely would like to watch The Magnificent Seven!

  • @psycojuggalo1642
    @psycojuggalo1642 Рік тому

    This movie is probably the most historically accurate telling of the legend of tombstone and the shootout at the O.K CORRAL

  • @BrettShadow
    @BrettShadow Рік тому +3

    Just to let you know. I saw your face during one particular scene.
    The scene in the creek when Wyatt walks out and kills Curly Bill is all true based on multiple accounts. They say that Curly Bill missed Wyatt at least 3 times from a distance of 5 feet. Which was insane as he was an above average marksman. Then Wyatt fired both barrels and according to the witnesses Curly Bill was almost blown completely in half at the stomach.
    His vendetta ride was a real event too
    Oh and the card dealer at the beginning?--Billy Bob Thorton
    The Thespian--Billy Zane
    Ike Clanton--Stephen Lang
    McMasters--Michael Rooker

  • @annapurna4054
    @annapurna4054 Рік тому +3

    I loved your reaction and really enjoyed hearing your thoughts on the movie. Thanks so much for sharing! And if you haven't already seen it, be sure to put "Dances with Wolves" on your list. That's another totally immersive film with stunning cinematography and musical score, a compelling story and memorable performances. It's a movie that sticks with you long after the final credits roll.

  • @danielhaynes2373
    @danielhaynes2373 Рік тому +1

    Absolutely love your reaction and how you expand on the settings. I'm now a subscriber.

  • @jonlandin2440
    @jonlandin2440 Рік тому +2

    Wyatt Earp managed to live to 80 or so without ever getting shot. He was pretty lucky I guess.

  • @Howie44
    @Howie44 Рік тому +1

    Great reaction for a great movie Shandor, cheers

  • @armandobatres208
    @armandobatres208 Рік тому +2

    I would definitely recommend Dances With Wolves as your next western.

  • @snooks5607
    @snooks5607 Рік тому +1

    re: "many-many others" the movie indeed has a good selection of prolific actors making it a good jumping off point when playing IMdb trivia games. I also didn't recognise Charlton Heston while watching or Jason Priestley (from Beverly Hills 90210), but for trivia purposes the useful bit is that many of the cast went on to do small roles in superhero ensemble movies like Michael Rooker (Guardians of Galaxy), Thomas Haden Church (Spider-Man), Powers Boothe (Sin City, Avengers), Paul Ben-Victor (Daredevil), Jon Tenney (Green Lantern), Stephen Lang (Avatar), Tomas Arana (Dark Knight Rises), linking them to all kinds of people. looks like all of them have a Bacon number of 2 or less.

  • @sherigrow6480
    @sherigrow6480 Рік тому +2

    I think you would like a movie called Road to Perdition. The cinematography is outstanding, set in gangster-era of the 1930s, the time of Al Capone. Stars Tom Hanks and great cast as well.

  • @YeeLeeHaw
    @YeeLeeHaw Рік тому +4

    Here's some more movies (with a brief non-spoiling synopsis) to add to your list with some that unfortunately are not often getting recommended (some you might have seen of course):
    The Hitcher (1986) Suspenseful and atmospheric road movie thriller horror.
    Heat (1995) Michael Mann's atmospheric crime thriller drama about a group of bank robbers and the cops that chases after them.
    Manhunter (1986) Also by Michael Mann based on the Red Dragon book. Just as The Hitcher this is also very suspenseful and atmospheric and very 80's. Takes place in the same universe as Silence of the Lambs. Not everybody's cup of tea, but if you like Heat, you'll probably like this one.
    Silence of the Lambs (1991) As said, is based on the same book series as Manhunter (not the same story though). This is the movie most people watch of the two.
    Midnight Run (1988) Bounty hunter (Robert De Niro) needs to take an accountant with ties to the mob from the east coast to Los Angeles before a deadline. Comedy road movie.
    Starman (1984) An alien crash lands on earth. Made by John Carpenter.
    Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977) A group of people experience contact with E.T.'s. Excellent visual effects. Steven Spielberg
    The Blob (1988) Excellent body horror movie about a blob ending up in a small American town.
    Wall Street (1987) Platoon director Oliver Stone's excellent 80's movie about a young NYC broker trying to get rich in a greedy and selfish dog eat dog world. Note: it got quite a lot of financial slang and terminology, and can be hard to follow unless you're in finance yourself.
    Born on the Fourth of July (1989) A young man gets paralyzed in Vietnam and have to overcome the challenges that ensues. Oliver Stone.
    The Abyss (1989) Taking place on an experimental underwater oil rig, whose crew getting entangled in a cold war crisis when aiding in a rescue mission of a downed American ballistic nuclear submarine, on top of that there's something more exotic being hidden in the depths of the ocean. Make sure you watch the director's cut.
    High Plains Drifter (1973) An anti-hero Clint Eastwood western with a mysterious element to it.
    Pale Rider (1985) Another Clint Eastwood western that got a connection to High Plains Drifter in terms of the character.
    Scarface (1983) Brian De Palma's crime masterpiece starring Al Pacino.
    Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978) Very disturbing psychological horror movie with some excellent practical effects about a subtle and increasingly noticeable alien invasion.
    The Thing (1982) As with the previous one, very disturbing and suspenseful movie with a similar theme and with amazing practical effects. If you like this one you'll probably like Invasion of the Body Snatchers and vice versa. John Carpenter.
    Scanners (1981) Got some excellent body horror practical effects. A somewhat wooden protagonist and a meh middle act, but well worth the watch for its quirkiness, interesting feel, and amazing effects.
    This were just some that I came up with on the top of my head. If you want to I can keep posting these as times goes by.

    • @shandoratthecinema4098
      @shandoratthecinema4098  Рік тому

      Yes, please!
      I've seen quite a few of your suggestions, but there's many I haven't (yet!).

  • @SueProv
    @SueProv Рік тому +1

    Silverado is great great western with Kevin Kline. Brian Dennehy. a young Kevin Costner Danny Glover. Scott Glen. Jeff Goldblum and Linda Hunt.

  • @StevesFunhouse
    @StevesFunhouse Рік тому +2

    Great reaction. Now, you NEED to watch the companion/competitive movie, simply called, Wyatt Earp (1994). It's full of great stars too, including/starring Kevin Costner (Wyatt), Dennis Quaid (Doc Holliday), Mark Harmon (Behan), Joanna Going (Josie), Michael Madsen (Virgil Earp) ... the rest I'll let you find out but you'll be impressed. It covers more of Wyatt's life, from youth until old age and is of course, geared to highlight more than just the events that lead up to the shootout and "death ride". I love both movies, but my personal preference would be the Kevin Costner one, because of his dedication and commitment to accuracy and in-depth coverage of the characters he portrays.

    • @shandoratthecinema4098
      @shandoratthecinema4098  Рік тому +1

      Sounds pretty awesome to me! I'll add it to my list of "have to watch" movies!

    • @StevesFunhouse
      @StevesFunhouse Рік тому

      @@shandoratthecinema4098 Awesome, and I'll keep an eye👁‍🗨out for it👍 , well ok, both eyes 👀😊.

  • @311fan666
    @311fan666 Місяць тому

    What no one seems to know or mention much is that this has the most historically accurate costume and set design. If you watch a lot of westerns, especially modern ones, you’ll notice most of the garb is drab and brown, lacking color. As though trying to seem “authentic”. It’s likely a result of all of the sepia toned photos we have from the time period. But in reality people then, and especially cowboys dressed quite flamboyantly, with lots of saturated color. They also wore gunbelts and holsters high up and not tied to their thighs with the buscadero drop rigs you see in the majority of western films. That was a Hollywood creation to make quick draw easier. Tombstone is the only western I’ve ever seen that depicted the period accurate 1880s

  • @phantompower
    @phantompower Рік тому +2

    Great reaction ! Glad you loved it.

  • @tduffy5
    @tduffy5 Рік тому +1

    My favorite shot, which you cut out, is the overhead closeup of the Four Horsemen, riding close beside each other in a line.
    At the end, I think that Doc saw the light that Morgan didn't.I agree with your comments about more scenes with Doc and Wyatt. The film should probably been three hours long. They had to compress events. For example, The shooting of Virgil's arm and the assassination of Morgan were four months apart. In the film, Morgan's death follows immediately.
    You should investigate the interaction that John Wayne had with Wyatt Earp before Earp died. It affected Wayne's acting throughout his career. UA-cam has some short videos about this.

    • @shandoratthecinema4098
      @shandoratthecinema4098  Рік тому +1

      Wow, really? That' amazing, I'll look into that!

    • @tduffy5
      @tduffy5 Рік тому +1

      @@shandoratthecinema4098 When you see Wayne as an authoritative character, you are seeing his imitation of Wyatt Earp.

  • @BlakeHanback01
    @BlakeHanback01 Рік тому +1

    Val Kilmer was great in this movie, Doc Holiday is the best character and real person ever.

  • @Silverhawk1776
    @Silverhawk1776 Рік тому

    One of the great visuals in the movie was not scripted. The building burning behind the Earps as they walked down the street was unplanned. They just kept the cameras rolling and finished the scene while it burned.

  • @roywall8169
    @roywall8169 Рік тому

    Open Range is also a cinematic masterpiece.

  • @ThomasBayless-wh2fo
    @ThomasBayless-wh2fo Рік тому

    One of the, if not the greatest westerns there is. You will compare every other to this one. Then add the fact that this is based on real ppl and real events.

  • @Smileybeeblevrox
    @Smileybeeblevrox Рік тому

    They tried to make this as historically accurate as possible. The timing of events is the most inaccurate parts. All the main events of the film, including the most unbelievable parts actually happened. That's the amazing part.

  • @tduffy5
    @tduffy5 Рік тому +1

    It was apparent that you weren't aware of the overall historical accuracy of this historical drama. Nearly every character with a line was a real historical figure. Some of the Individual characters and some events were tweaked, but the overall picture is accurate.
    In the beginning you were wondering about Behan being involved in so many things. That is the nature of politics. Behan, as the elected Sheriff, was the head of the Democratic Party in that area. The Cowboys were the Party's enforcement arm. The Territorial Governor and the US Marshal, Dake whom you saw at Earp's arrival at the train station, were Republicans. Eventually the Republican President, U.S. Grant responded for calls to clean out the Cowboys' criminal organization. But, they couldn't find anyone to do it.
    After Morgan was assassinated, Earp agreed to take the position of Deputy US Marshal. Historians call it the Vendetta Ride when Earp and his team chased down the Cowboys. It is rarely mentioned that they did so armed with Federal Warrants for many of the Cowboys. In response, Behan got the Democrat judge to issue a warrant for Earp in the killing of Stillwell at the train station. That is why we see Behan's posse on the prowl for them.
    I have read that disputing factions over these events continue today in the area. The Clanton and McLaury families are still there.

    • @shandoratthecinema4098
      @shandoratthecinema4098  Рік тому +1

      You are absolutrly right, I like to go into movies completely blind, so I truly had no idea just how accurate this movie was. Having done some research (and having read a lot of comments), I came to realize just how accurate this movie actually was. Which makes it all the more awesome to me!

  • @ewoe21
    @ewoe21 Рік тому +1

    Great job on the review. Thanks for doing this one.

  • @Salguine
    @Salguine Рік тому +1

    Wyatt and Mattie were never actually married. She had become a hopeless opium addict, and their relationship was more or less over by the time they got to Tombstone.

  • @roywall8169
    @roywall8169 Рік тому

    This is Val Kilmer’s greatest performance.

  • @mattplus09
    @mattplus09 Рік тому

    Wonderful reaction! Good journey :) Peace!

  • @gingerbreadman1969
    @gingerbreadman1969 Рік тому +1

    What a great and insightful reaction to a great movie. Never seen your reactions before Shandor, but I hope you put out many more. If you haven't seen Dances With Wolves, you need to continue your western baptism there, maybe followed by Silverado. 👍😎💯🔥

  • @mattcal6423
    @mattcal6423 Рік тому

    Try Lonesome Dove it’s long.. 4 parter. But well worth it. Augustus McRae and Capt Call… equally bad ass characters and the bond they share… just a great story and a great series. Gus is equal to Doc in terms of being a character you can’t help but fall in love with

  • @leannmiller7153
    @leannmiller7153 Рік тому

    New sub here! You’re the best film reactor I’ve seen❤️‍🔥

  • @Vlad.Larionov
    @Vlad.Larionov Рік тому

    It is very interesting to see your reaction to the films Robocop and Robocop 3. This is a cool immortal classic 👍👍👍

  • @lindy1642
    @lindy1642 Рік тому +1

    Kurt Russell was the uncredited director for this movie after the director they hired was too busy to work on it..

  • @leftcoaster67
    @leftcoaster67 Рік тому

    As much as I love this movie. You should check out Once Upon A Time in the West. It's feast for the eyes and ears.

  • @ESPER_Power
    @ESPER_Power Рік тому +1

    Movies also based on real people that you could react are these ones:
    hacksaw ridge 2016
    unbroken 2014
    midway 2019

  • @ramonalfaro3252
    @ramonalfaro3252 Рік тому +2

    New Sub, thanks for the content. Silverado is just as good as Tombstone!

  • @itt23r
    @itt23r Рік тому +1

    And now for your next amazing western and the only one I can think of on the same level as the two you have just seen, take a look at the Coen Brothers remake of the old John Wayne classic TRUE GRIT starring Jeff Bridges, Matt Damon, Hailee Steinfeld, Josh Brolin and Barry Pepper. And yes even though John Wayne one his only Oscar for his role in the original version of the movie, don't be fooled. The remake is better.

  • @godtfredlea6610
    @godtfredlea6610 Рік тому

    Great reaction to a great movie. Since you are on the western trail, I would love to see a reaction on another great movie, Clint Eastwoods " The outlaw Josey Wales". Lots of great oneliners in that one.

  • @alanpeterson4939
    @alanpeterson4939 Рік тому

    For your journey into western movies, next up…
    The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
    The Wild Bunch
    The Outlaw Josie Wales

  • @peterblood50
    @peterblood50 Рік тому

    Honkytonk pianos are always out of tune. A combination of weather and the lack of competent piano tuners in the old west.
    This movie is as close to perfectly made as any I've ever seen (Although the alley in which the fight took place was only 15 feet wide so the people involved were packed much closer together than shown in the movie. The only part I didn't get was the building burning behind the Earps as they were walking to the gunfight. I think it was just to put movement in the background and maybe a nod to how 'hot' the situation was.

  • @goatvoicestwin1859
    @goatvoicestwin1859 Рік тому

    Great reaction man loved your insight and passion into every detail of the movie. Need to react to the John Wick franchise..I think you'll love em. Well, if you haven't seen them yet

  • @Blue-qr7qe
    @Blue-qr7qe Рік тому

    You obviously love a good Western. I see that you've watched
    DANCES WITH WOLVES. Costner is a very believable actor.
    I'd love to catch your reaction to
    OPEN RANGE (2003) Kevin Costner,
    Robert Duvall, Annette Bening.
    'Fine Western. I'd bet you'll love it.
    Peace -

  • @rennie0322
    @rennie0322 Рік тому

    an eastern european cowboy. love it. welcome to the party lol

  • @PrimitiveFilmGroup
    @PrimitiveFilmGroup Рік тому

    Please react to *Young Guns 1 and 2* .
    Young Guns changed the way modern westerns are made. Part 2 is just as good if not better thanthe first one. Based on the true story of the greatest outlaw ever, Billy the Kid.

  • @laapache1
    @laapache1 Рік тому

    there were gangs in newyork already

  • @ramonalfaro3252
    @ramonalfaro3252 Рік тому

    If You can please check out BREAKING AWAY 1979 great acting from the entire cast.

  • @brettmanus7904
    @brettmanus7904 Рік тому

    You cut the introduction of the bad guy and reason for gunning down the wedding party.

  • @gordonhaire9206
    @gordonhaire9206 Рік тому

    This is a great movie. It's a fun watch, but history, it ain't.

  • @brettmanus7904
    @brettmanus7904 Рік тому

    I stopped after the introduction of Doc. This movie is 2:10. You could EASILY show an hour of footage, and you should.

  • @deanwilliams8331
    @deanwilliams8331 Рік тому

    Great reaction