Traxxas Fanboys you are Wrong.

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  • Опубліковано 22 бер 2024
  • The NEW FMS FCX10 is not a Traxxas TRX4 Copy. I can't force you to be right, but hopefully this video helps you to understand ;)
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  • @TomleyRC
    @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому +7

    Win mine here: raffall.com/355390/enter-raffle-to-win-an-awesome-chevy-blazer-rc-truck-hosted-by-phil-harrison
    Buy yourself one here: www.fmshobby.com/products/fms-1-10-fcx10-chevrolet-k5-blazer-rs?_pos=1&_sid=d3e899b8f&_ss=r&ref=TRC

    • @GMCOGRE
      @GMCOGRE Місяць тому

      where did you get the diff guards? cant find them anywhere.

    • @JamieVauxnut1
      @JamieVauxnut1 Місяць тому

      Are these available to ship to the UK from FMS , as it seems they won't ship to Glasgow?

  • @Casitascrawlers
    @Casitascrawlers 2 місяці тому +12

    Yep FMS hit a nerve with the Traxxas fan boys that right there tells you it’s a threat to them 😂🙌

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому +1

      😅

    • @jgrc73
      @jgrc73 2 місяці тому

      check out Traxxas sales number sometime. it's not a threat to Traxxas in any meaningful way it's an option for buyers. People should look at this the other way. this truck has ideas and features that other manufacturers will integrate soon specifically turn signals and magnet light connectors. those are both really cool innovations that will be integrated in other manufacturers future models guaranteed but Traxxas is not gonna introduce an 11 channel radio neither is Horizon and if you wanna really cool unique unreliable and strange looking krawler with 1 billion features this is your guy

    • @moutwtrng
      @moutwtrng 4 дні тому

      Yep these stupid Traxxas fanboys don't understand that having competition is the best for the future of rc's and makes these manufacturers compete which is better for us consumers and better for our wallets!

  • @deathbydeviceable
    @deathbydeviceable 2 місяці тому +18

    Idk why people complain about "copying"
    You can only reinvent the wheel so many times but at the end of the day its just a wheel

    • @sharkey9
      @sharkey9 2 місяці тому +2

      Well Canada made their wheels square, that is innovative!

    • @TheActionBastard
      @TheActionBastard 2 місяці тому

      @@sharkey9 I imagine they have some... development hiccups.

    • @underarockandstuff
      @underarockandstuff 2 місяці тому

      As is tradition ​@@sharkey9

    • @aviatoFPV
      @aviatoFPV 2 місяці тому

      Intellectual property is for entities suffering from intellectual scarcity

    • @spike--
      @spike-- 2 місяці тому

      I guarantee you. If you invent something and someone stole your ideas. You wouldn't be saying that.

  • @davidives7204
    @davidives7204 2 місяці тому +1

    I love the extra styling you have given the Black version; it looks and crawls so well.

  • @seansullivan3795
    @seansullivan3795 2 місяці тому +9

    I like that you're not afraid to call BS on other channel reviews, even if it's your friend's. Matt really beat that one up....i thought it was pretty weird.

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому +9

      I’ve told him if he does a follow up, he needs to find 19 or more things that are the same 😅

    • @scalebuildersguild
      @scalebuildersguild 2 місяці тому +8

      Why weird? I don’t like overcomplicated trucks, TRX4 full function included. Additionally, if yours broke on the first run, you’d probably tell people too. 😂

    • @boduke9428
      @boduke9428 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@scalebuildersguildmy Xmaxx came out of the box with a defective servo. My buddies Maxx came with a defective esc. Neither one ever worked the first time to make a first drive. Stuff happens. Nobody or no thing has 100% success. Even the expensive stuff is made as cheap as possible. I bet even those plain Jane Vanquish trucks break occasionally. I appreciate a manufacturer who passes some of that savings on down the line and give them a little more leeway on quality issues.

    • @louaieayyash5158
      @louaieayyash5158 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@scalebuildersguildI'm particularly new to your channel, but I really like and appreciate the work you do, i was waiting for your fms k10 video as i knew you had some interesting things to say, I wish you would do more side to side comparisons with the trx4 as u were reviewing the FMs, im also a huge fan of tomleys videos and this was the kind of video i was expecting to further clarify the exact differences between the 2 in detail and also from a visual perspective. I'm surprised there haven't been more comparison videos between the two, especially if some claim that they're very similar!

    • @xtrmbeast
      @xtrmbeast 2 місяці тому

      @@TomleyRCfriends love :DDD

  • @traviscoombes3578
    @traviscoombes3578 2 місяці тому +14

    Up to 1974, Blazers had a removable roof that went up to the windshield. 1975 and newer, the roof came off up to the cab.

    • @GMCOGRE
      @GMCOGRE 2 місяці тому

      1976 was the first year for the half cab.

    • @traviscoombes3578
      @traviscoombes3578 2 місяці тому

      @@GMCOGRE you are right. I thought they started in 75, but it was 76. Thank you for the correction. All I know is I had a 74 that I wish I still had.

    • @GMCOGRE
      @GMCOGRE 2 місяці тому +1

      @@traviscoombes3578yeah, mine was a GMC jimmy but still the same truck, i still hate i got rid of it, damn thing was like a mt goat, went everywhere i pointed it.

  • @muskokamike127
    @muskokamike127 2 місяці тому +60

    how can you say they're not clones!! they both have electric motors and controlled by wireless radios!! ree ree ree! hahaha

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому +21

      And wheels! Damn it!

    • @spinelessmoderate8715
      @spinelessmoderate8715 2 місяці тому +9

      ​@TomleyRC especially the wheels! 4 for each crawler? C'mon, it's obvious!

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому +9

      haha

    • @1521joe
      @1521joe 2 місяці тому

      @@TomleyRC total clone.

    • @annasoming
      @annasoming 2 місяці тому +1

      there are totally clones... except that fms did progress it forward in a few places. i'm all for doing what others have done right and well, and then taking it even a little step forward.

  • @nj2033
    @nj2033 2 місяці тому +3

    Axle mounted servo! Happy with that!! No idea why you'd want the servo weight higher than it needs to be on a crawler

    • @JT-np1op
      @JT-np1op 2 місяці тому +1

      The preference is based on scale competition rules. CMS basically forces the suspension design to follow real life counter part. In scale rc competition CMS class is considered more difficult than AMS. Hopefully you understand why there are 2 different preferences now.

  • @ronnyweinreich9425
    @ronnyweinreich9425 2 місяці тому +5

    I have a FMS FMT24 and I'm really impressed by the performance and quality. 👌
    The only downside is the availability on spare parts here in Germany.

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому +2

      Yeah, they perform well

  • @annasoming
    @annasoming 2 місяці тому

    if you take the chassis and link geometry... are they the same? these have a significant impact on how everything else fits in it and especially on its performance.

  • @Pablo668
    @Pablo668 2 місяці тому +1

    Sigh, I feel your pain Phil. Basically over time the designs of anything get pared down to the most effective solutions. As you said, it's why so many designs in RC are broadly similar to each other. The differences end up being in the smaller things. And those FMS trucks are nice/perform well btw.

  • @marxnex71
    @marxnex71 2 місяці тому +7

    I’ll be honest, I love my TRX4s. Yes, I am a bit of a Traxxas fan boy. But that FMS is mwaa (chefs kiss). Especially how you’ve made it all black. I also love the warmer coloured headlights. Cracking job Phil. 👍🏻👏🏻

  • @Omnitermniator
    @Omnitermniator 2 місяці тому +3

    I’ve tried and tested (almost) every RC UA-cam channel and really I can’t find a more effective channel, Beyond RC is the only other channel I even think is worth watching for a review. Great work and I think the even 182K subscribers is underrated! Another great video to add to the collection😂❤.

  • @GMCOGRE
    @GMCOGRE 2 місяці тому

    i picked up some connectors off amazon to make adapters to run my traxxas batts in this. also, what is the extended pigtail with the capacitor for that came with this ?

  • @Sol-hl2rj
    @Sol-hl2rj 2 місяці тому +4

    Well done! It’s not a clone, it’s an evolution😉
    Phil, can you do a test of it set up with the RWD/4WD option?
    It will be more fun for the bashing part, but also disengaging the front axle will mimic a center differential.. so for tighter turns in not too steep terrain it should be more manoeuvrable with better turning.
    Thanks for keeping up with us😅

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому +2

      Yes… they took the TRX4 and made it better 😇

    • @sorenmay5630
      @sorenmay5630 Місяць тому

      @@TomleyRCwhen fms has aftermarket support like any traxxas vehicle maybe I’d agree

  • @scalebuildersguild
    @scalebuildersguild 2 місяці тому +5

    Great comparison Phil! There’s no denying the similarities or where they got their inspiration from. Regardless, looks, performance, reliability, parts support, that’s the real difference between the two. 😅 I’d love to see FMS do a simplified version, without all the additional bells and whistles!

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому +7

      Yes, I somewhat agree. And as for Looks, Performance, Reliability & Parts support.... I'd say Parts support is the only one Traxxas has in the bag. My 'New'... TRX4 High Trail's steering servo has stopped working after 2 runs, and if the shift servos are still the same as they used in the Summit, then I can't say they'll out last the competition anytime soon, so 'reliability' is certainly questionable.
      Anyway... both are great Trucks, and the FMS for the money is really good.
      I'll look forward to your follow up with the 19 things the same haha

    • @110RCSCALETALES
      @110RCSCALETALES 2 місяці тому

      Fms has just as good support here in the UK , I would argue more reliable than the TRX too

    • @scalebuildersguild
      @scalebuildersguild 2 місяці тому +3

      @@110RCSCALETALES Interesting, you can just walk into a hobby shop and they've got parts in stock? Fantastic!

    • @scalebuildersguild
      @scalebuildersguild 2 місяці тому +4

      @@TomleyRC I think we'll all be able to anecdotally have evidence to support any reliability claim, long term testing is the only way to truly measure it. All's good though, can't wait to share some additional findings with you. 😘

    • @110RCSCALETALES
      @110RCSCALETALES 2 місяці тому +1

      @@scalebuildersguild no not really, but most parts available online from uk stockists .

  • @MechanicallyFun
    @MechanicallyFun 2 місяці тому +10

    What happen to the Peter pointer sound effect? I miss that on this vid😂. We want it back🤣

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому +2

      Oh.. forgot haha

    • @midge148
      @midge148 2 місяці тому +6

      @@TomleyRCunsubbing unless you get two pointer honks in on next vid 😁👍

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому +1

      haha

  • @brentwhite1791
    @brentwhite1791 2 місяці тому +1

    Happy that you are showing the differences!! Awesome comparison. 👍🏻😁

  • @joshuatzonfortheslaughter
    @joshuatzonfortheslaughter 2 місяці тому

    You are correct sir. They are two different generation K5's as far as the bodies are concerned. The only thing I cannot recall is which year K5 had the turn indicators in the bumper? From at least 1977-89, if memory serves me correctly, the signal lights were always just below the headlights. Regardless, both units look pretty good.

    • @adam_mawz_maas
      @adam_mawz_maas 2 місяці тому

      Traxxas is a 69-72 1st gen model. FMS is a 76+ 2nd gen model.

  • @WheelsRC
    @WheelsRC 2 місяці тому +1

    Amazing, what a good set of tyres can do to improve a rig.

  • @RoostedFilms
    @RoostedFilms 2 місяці тому +1

    I like the FMS version & really 399 isn't a bad price for a capable crawler. I've seen a few bits I don't like but they do sell fixes & I believe FMS will be able to keep up with the demand for spares. When I buy outside the horizon & Traxxas bubble I think FMS would be a decent buy.

  • @BrendonakaShanks
    @BrendonakaShanks 2 місяці тому +1

    If I buy anymore RC's, I would not have money for my other projects, lol. I'll just enjoy the reviews. Thanks mate, this is a good one.

  • @scaleworksRC
    @scaleworksRC 2 місяці тому

    Pretty cool comparison! Crawling is just a different kind of fun. If I'm paying $700+ for an RC though, I'm saving a few more dollars for the D1RC Defender.

  • @mikemartin6857
    @mikemartin6857 2 місяці тому

    My first rc was one of the smaller fms units I ordered from Amazon and I was so stoked!! I got It on a Sunday waited for the battery to fully charge while I finished the football game then get outside and after 3 mins of run time it broke. A small weed wrapped around the back wheel put it in a a bind and snapped the rear drive shaft 🤔
    Next day I took it to my locally hobby shop and the guy informed they didn't carry parts for them and called it toy grade not hobby. He recommended I send it back and come buy a traxxas trx4m from them.... which I did and I haven't looked back!! I absolutely love traxxas products..... I have 2 trx4m units... a trx4 high trail k/5 blazer "70s body style" a new rustler 4x4 bls-2...a granite grom and I just got my new arrma 3s big rock in today 😀 Traxxas and Arrma are som eof the best brands in rc I my opinion 💯

  • @behzodaxmadiyorov9149
    @behzodaxmadiyorov9149 2 місяці тому

    Does anyone know if paddle tires can be used on concrete? Is there any harm to the model when used on concrete?

  • @4saken404
    @4saken404 2 місяці тому +2

    Not sure if it is relevant to the "copy" aspect but the suspension on the FMS seems sooooo much better just from watching you handle it. Is it stock?

    • @OkieDokieBoi
      @OkieDokieBoi 2 місяці тому +1

      I own two TRX4's and a TRX6. I also have this FMS. I can tell you that this FMS is loads better in every way. And yes, the shocks are so much better and smoother than the praised TRX4 shocks, and they flex more being 100mm!
      Needless to say, I won't be purchasing another TRX4.
      There is nothing needing done to the FMS except wheels, and brass internal rings in the fronts. It could also benefit with even just a tad bit more weight on the front axle to become a pure monster. I'm waiting for some black brass front outer portal covers or steering knuckles to be available. And that will be absolutely it!

  • @TaurusPresents
    @TaurusPresents 2 місяці тому

    Good explanation of the differences. 👍 There are many cars that look very similar from a distance and yet are often completely different. Every brand has its own style and qualities. Although I am quite a fan of Traxxas, I always notice with many other brands how much extra you get as standard for less money. With Traxxas you usually have to change your wallet again to obtain all the upgrades that are needed.

  • @dankforest
    @dankforest 2 місяці тому +2

    i want to see a best of trail trucks vid featuring all of the competition out there now. it would be a banger vid.

  • @defiantfury7109
    @defiantfury7109 2 місяці тому +6

    They are totally different

  • @carltruva8872
    @carltruva8872 2 місяці тому +1

    I like how you blacked out the fms blazer.. Great comparison

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому +1

      Yes, looks so cool 👌

  • @alanq64
    @alanq64 2 місяці тому +1

    I picked up mine here in the states for 399. Free shipping. Where did you get the servo guards? I didn't see them on the website.

    • @OkieDokieBoi
      @OkieDokieBoi 2 місяці тому +1

      They are an excellent investment, A MUST! I just checked so I could link you the part, but they must be out of stock, as I no longer see them, either. I got lucky to have snagged two sets. They are a must, imo, esp if you have gnarly and jagged terrain. Those and the metal driveshafts (which are really heavy), are a very nice touch.

  • @charlesking2340
    @charlesking2340 2 місяці тому

    Another great review/comparison. There’s absolutely NO WAY for different manufacturers to make “similar” vehicles without some type of “like” items but these two are NOT the same.
    Similar yes, same NO! As usual FMS steps up where Traxxas stays stagnant.
    I own many Traxxas and like them but I’m glad to see FMS stepping up to offer stock features affordable vs the ultra high upgrades offered by Traxxas and others. Hopefully this gets more people involved back into the RC car industry (unlike during Covid where isolation drove the market but then people fall out of the RC game as the world started turning again) for keeps as there are more affordable, and just as good if not better, options becoming available.

  • @andrewhopper8700
    @andrewhopper8700 2 місяці тому

    Hi mate what crawler should I get for £300?

  • @HorslONE
    @HorslONE 23 дні тому

    Where did you get the diffprotection from?

  • @jonthomas8487
    @jonthomas8487 2 місяці тому

    For me I’m a fan of having competition. I’ve had my best experiences with Traxxas for trucks and Kyosho for buggies, but here in the US a full function TRX4 (Bronco) non high Trail is $499 shipping included less tax. The FMS is $449 shipping included less tax. The FMS direct $399 price does not include shipping. For $50 more personally I’d pay that extra to have the ability to go to my local hobby shop to buy any part vs waiting 3-4 days+ for FMS to ship me parts. They may be better in UK

    • @GMCOGRE
      @GMCOGRE 2 місяці тому

      i didnt have to pay shipping for mine, odd. got the truck and offroad bumper and it was $404.98 total.

  • @brianlynch4801
    @brianlynch4801 2 місяці тому +1

    Everyone complains about how dim the FMS lights are but I'm here to tell you as a person from the 70s all lights on those vehicles were dim. Bad grounds😂

    • @brianlynch4801
      @brianlynch4801 2 місяці тому

      You can't compare an 1157 bulb against the current LED bulbs

  • @shaunodriscoll
    @shaunodriscoll 2 місяці тому +1

    That’s all very well and good but, where’s the £30,000 truck smash up?…. Oh hang on a minute wrong channel 😂😂😂 nice vid! 😂😂

  • @mikemangiameli561
    @mikemangiameli561 2 місяці тому +1

    Glad to see you named your pointer stick now all it needs is a tie lol

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому

      Haha.. maybe I’ll 3D print one 😅

    • @mikemangiameli561
      @mikemangiameli561 2 місяці тому

      @@TomleyRC a bow tie might work

  • @jaymyers9899
    @jaymyers9899 2 місяці тому +1

    That black on black and them wheels gawd ❤🤤🤤

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 2 місяці тому +1

    Awesome comparison, Phil! Thanks!!! 😊
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks dude. Just trying to give people a bit more info

  • @LigmaJohnson-cf2ty
    @LigmaJohnson-cf2ty 2 місяці тому +2

    Being an engineer that is how you reverse engineer. Looks different on the outside then sell at a lower price for a loss until you secure your market share think wallmart,amazon. Im not saying I agree with traxxas and it's business model. Competition is good.

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому +1

      Yes agree… but let’s not forget these crawlers are just ‘reverse engineered’ 1:1 scales in most cases 👌

  • @chucksrchabit.7671
    @chucksrchabit.7671 2 місяці тому +1

    Knew I should have got the black. I went with the brown one. Just did the 2wd mod on it. Video soon. Looks awesome bud.

  • @RyanSantos-cn5ij
    @RyanSantos-cn5ij 2 місяці тому +1

    Awesome, Cheaper, Reliable. Better than Traxxas...

  • @jakeclauson9863
    @jakeclauson9863 2 місяці тому

    Even tho thier both in the same class its good to see them next to eachother. Its hard to get an idea of scale just from looking at pictures.

  • @Techie_ASMR
    @Techie_ASMR 2 місяці тому

    Can you make a video about 4 links suspension and 3 link with pan hard and see what s better. ?

    • @OkieDokieBoi
      @OkieDokieBoi 2 місяці тому +1

      4 link servo on axle (SOA) every time. Lower servo mount lowers center of gravity and puts the weight of the servo directly on the axle, below the springs where you want any weight. Also, better, equal steering left to right and doesn't bump steer or lean the rig while steering like the 3-link with panhard does. Everything is sturdier and stays in line with 4-link SOA. I hope this helps

    • @Techie_ASMR
      @Techie_ASMR 2 місяці тому +1

      yes it does. thank you so much brother. @@OkieDokieBoi

    • @OkieDokieBoi
      @OkieDokieBoi 2 місяці тому

      @@Techie_ASMR not a problem. You're very welcome, my friend. 👊

  • @bionichobbit
    @bionichobbit 2 місяці тому

    Trx 4 has a cult like following and anything that comes along to challenge it ( let’s face it that’s not hard ) will always get this type of response. If you want a rig that you have to spend huge amounts of money on brass before it’s any good then be my guest. Great vid well done.

  • @tepidwheelsRC
    @tepidwheelsRC 2 місяці тому +2

    Two different scale models of the same real car look similar?! How completely outrageous! I must form an angry mob

  • @Wainfleetrccrawlers
    @Wainfleetrccrawlers 2 місяці тому +3

    Tell it how it is Tomley👍👍 I have had two trx4's and both never worked right out of the box 😞 my fcx10 perfect. 🥳🥳

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому

      Yeah, the servos seem to be the weak point. One of my favourites is the Element Enduro SE… just a simple crawler with no frills

    • @d_n_r_rc_racing2449
      @d_n_r_rc_racing2449 2 місяці тому

      Funny....both of my trx4s work perfectly. 2 years on my 79 bronco with stock motor and esc and almost a year on my k10 high trail that also has stock motor and esc.

  • @Cars_crazy29
    @Cars_crazy29 2 місяці тому +2

    I would say that it is a compliment, calling something a trx4 copy!

  • @JamieVauxnut1
    @JamieVauxnut1 Місяць тому

    Are these available to ship from FMS to the UK as it seems they won't deliver to Glasgow ? 🤔

  • @rctraildriversuk-lone-wolfvide
    @rctraildriversuk-lone-wolfvide 2 місяці тому

    I like chrome but the murdered black chevvy does look ace, you nearly forgot the difference of the traxxas toy grade windows also you forgot the other one, the traxxas servo`s die after a few runs..........can i ask again what camera you use for outdoor filming, have you thought about doing a video "how you film"

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому +1

      My TRX4 servo is actually on the way out from the ‘dog toy’ video. That’s only it’s 2nd run… and all my Summit ones have died at least once… although that wasn’t the purpose of this video, and it would have triggered way more fanboys 😅.
      I’m planning a how too on my second channel 👍

  • @joshfowler197
    @joshfowler197 2 місяці тому

    The all black looked so much better. For some readson the bright colors makes the body look off when ot comes to thr dimensions

  • @user-ci2sw1oy5r
    @user-ci2sw1oy5r 2 місяці тому

    WPL c 74 jimny review plz. By the way, love your videos.

  • @iflyrcmike
    @iflyrcmike 2 місяці тому +1

    Yay a 11 minute infomercial for your raffle - nice comparison.

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому +1

      Free one next, nobody will complain about that ;)

  • @TheRCBuildersPost
    @TheRCBuildersPost 2 місяці тому +1

    It's definitely not a clone. They may have gotten some of their ideas from the TRX 4 but that's how this hobby is. I'm an Element fan boy but can tell you that the element lineup is based off of the 10.2. Vanquish? Also based off the 10.2! No one talks about that 😂

  • @yourtubisfilled7164
    @yourtubisfilled7164 2 місяці тому

    'A boddehs a boddeh innit?' **carefully jots down the new pick-up line**

  • @TheBigstoned1
    @TheBigstoned1 2 місяці тому +1

    every single rc company looks at what works in other makers designs borrows elements makes slight design changes then implements them into their model, even the rc hobbyist borrow parts and bodyshells from other models to make them work better or look similar to others, all i can say is i couldn't care less even if it was a slight copy/clone, i thank god for the cheaper makes because if it wasn't for them i wouldn't be able to afford to have a hobby, do we all moan about the clearl...possibly copied spare parts you can buy on discount sites or do we just buy them anyway because they're a ton cheaper than oem and um mostly work?

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому

      I agree… it’s in pretty much every industry. There’s a point you get to where innovation can only get so far…. Portal axles on full size trucks gave the design for them on an RC Crawler.. if you change the design too much, they aren’t gonna function correctly. People forget that these toys we play with get a lot of there components from their 1:1 counterpart

  • @basementracer7622
    @basementracer7622 2 місяці тому

    Nice job mate, glad you did this. Thanks.

  • @kennethrobinson9008
    @kennethrobinson9008 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the correct unbiased review. FMS knocked it out. Nice to have options.

  • @madjh8
    @madjh8 2 місяці тому +1

    Well, the Traxxas has a bit more quality, the body is more detailed, I like more how it is the system, links etc. The quality of the light system of the traxxas is over the average, same functins than other chenese but better construction. The other is a chinese RC car imported direct to UK and it is a cheaper option. If I go to mud etc I would choose the cheap option, If I whant to upgrade and have a nice RC car I will go for the traxxas.

  • @sebastafari
    @sebastafari 2 місяці тому

    outstanding episode, like always. I would love to see your revision of the HG4-52 Toyota. Cheers!!!

  • @myharryface
    @myharryface 2 місяці тому

    Did the Ford Mustang define a new class or is the Chevy Camaro a copy/clone? It’s nearly 60 years later and “they” are still debating that.

  • @WoolstyRC
    @WoolstyRC 2 місяці тому

    I feel like this was a little dig at matt 😂😂 but I have to agree even though watching his video I thought the axles looked the same but now you've shown in abit more detail you can see the differences and the trx looks like it has slightly more clearance 👊🏼🤙🏼💨💨

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому +2

      I speak to Matt quite a lot. And I’d already started this video before he’d published his

    • @WoolstyRC
      @WoolstyRC 2 місяці тому +1

      @@TomleyRC ye I know you 2 talk that's why I thought it was towards him as abit of friendly banter 😅

  • @alans4281
    @alans4281 2 місяці тому +1

    Well done mate. The FMS is $450 on special in Australia the trx is never on special and sells for $1150 Australian dollars. I think we all should know who you are talking about, if you don’t want to name names that’s fine. Will you be reviewing a Vanquish clone anytime soon?

    • @albertkelly7129
      @albertkelly7129 2 місяці тому

      What, where? Its not available here yet till April supposedly?

  • @BangForYourBuckRc
    @BangForYourBuckRc 2 місяці тому +2

    Well said Phil! I agree 100%! Got it! ☕️

  • @philippegauvin4127
    @philippegauvin4127 2 місяці тому +3

    Very glad you made this video. The SBG review was making me go mad the way he was being so critical with such made up complaints. It was driving me crazy. I figured he has something out for the Chinese brands and has very close ties with the American ones 😅

    • @havn2muchfun
      @havn2muchfun 2 місяці тому +1

      So because he told the truth of HIS experience and feelings he’s got something against them? Yeah, who’s the biased one here.

    • @user-nz4pj7zh2i
      @user-nz4pj7zh2i 2 місяці тому +1

      @@havn2muchfun traxxas will drop him if he doesn't say nice things

    • @havn2muchfun
      @havn2muchfun 2 місяці тому

      You mean like when the Trx first came out and he said he didn’t like all the extra stuff and preferred the basic sport version without all those features? And still says that today? But I’m sure you have some very reliable inside info nobody else does. Or again, you don’t like his opinion so he must be wrong and a shill for anyone but FMS. Lol

    • @McRcFly
      @McRcFly 2 місяці тому

      I think i figured out why Sbg hated on the fms.... he didnt get the k10 for the first round of reviews... that pissed him off so when he finally got it he was mean to it. 😥

  • @Patrick-xp6vs
    @Patrick-xp6vs 2 місяці тому

    Yes Tomley, you are right. it is not a traxas clone. The design of certain parts is slightly based on that of the Traxas. still it's not a clone.
    once again a great video 👍✌

  • @arronjones6985
    @arronjones6985 2 місяці тому

    I know where my money would go! FM's is so nice. Especially your black on black version

  • @beanbag4982
    @beanbag4982 2 місяці тому

    Why do companies only make k5 blazer bodies? There’s some other nice gens like the 92-94 full size blazers

    • @GMCOGRE
      @GMCOGRE 2 місяці тому

      chevy stopped making blazers (full size) in '92, but that was just a tahoe before the rename, last actual blazer with a removable top was 1991.

  • @crazymo8251
    @crazymo8251 2 місяці тому

    Just entered the raffle would really like one of these

  • @jonas852
    @jonas852 2 місяці тому

    have to say i like the FMS car better just becus i like that year of chevy better. dont know how part support for fms is in sweden but totaly going to take a look on them

    • @GMCOGRE
      @GMCOGRE 2 місяці тому

      traxxas has the same year blazer, just not a high trail version, my son has it., they do have a pickup in square body in high trail though.

  • @vles007
    @vles007 2 місяці тому

    Music during the crawl sounded like something straight out of Starfield lol

  • @Mike_and_Life
    @Mike_and_Life 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm sorry Mr. Tomley, but it takes 20 differences to prove they're not the same (with corresponding bell chimes). Seeing how there are only 19, they're clearly identical.

  • @GMCOGRE
    @GMCOGRE 2 місяці тому

    if you had the correct trx4 this would be better. the one you need isnt the high trail but the '79 blazer from traxxas. by the way, the grills on them both designate them as 1979 blazers, maybe thats why people think this is a clone of the traxxas one. i have the high trail and my son has the '79, and i just got the fms one, took them over 2 1/2 weeks to get it to me. we both also have the fcx24 blazers which also have the '79 grill.

  • @derrickwilliams2903
    @derrickwilliams2903 Місяць тому +1

    I don't think anyone is saying the FCX10 is a 1:1 copy of the TRX4. However, it is so similar that you could call it a copy. There is little to no chance FMS would have come to those design conclusions without the existence of the TRX4. Spending 10 minutes proving the FCX10 isn't a literal copy is a waste of time, but thanks I guess? Call it a copy or "heavily inspired". I don't think it matters. There aren't a lot of revolutionary ideas in RC. Most are derivative. It's that iterative/derivative process that allows the hobby to move forward. If Traxxas owners want to be upset, maybe they should direct those feelings toward Traxxas themselves who haven't come out with a new trail truck platform in 7 years.

  • @joonyoungie
    @joonyoungie 2 місяці тому +2

    The POINTERS NAME IS PETER! I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS EXCITES ME...

  • @spencertoth9526
    @spencertoth9526 2 місяці тому

    I mean they made slight changes of course but general design is surely a copy of the trx4 lol I mean it looks more a trx4 than an SCX10, trail finder, or enduro no ? let’s see which one can be bashed harder, durability test!

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому +1

      More than slight changes.. it’s obviously using the TRX4 as abase for its design, but when you sit them side by side, nothing is the same, just the functions are. Only so much you can do with portals and servos etc…

  • @user-ow9zt2tb9d
    @user-ow9zt2tb9d 2 місяці тому

    The fms models are here to stay....it looks great

  • @nikoncan
    @nikoncan 2 місяці тому

    Hi thanks for your videos and please keep presenting the way you do. I personally am really fed up with the style of, in particular one presenter, and I am avoiding whenever possible.

  • @AnthonyELombardi
    @AnthonyELombardi 2 місяці тому

    Their similar the parts/components look similar to one another with the exception of a few features

  • @lolgeen
    @lolgeen 2 місяці тому +1

    ya it is just enough to get no copyrightstrike 🤣🤪

  • @TheShopMiniRC
    @TheShopMiniRC 2 місяці тому

    Thank you. I had to shut that shit down in my deep dive fcx10 review.
    I also deal with it daily in my Facebook groups… ugh… fan boys.

    • @shaynejenkins446
      @shaynejenkins446 Місяць тому

      sounds fan boyish

    • @TheShopMiniRC
      @TheShopMiniRC Місяць тому

      @@shaynejenkins446 lmao. Hardly my dude. Shutting down fan boys doesn’t make someone a fan boy.

  • @rcinhand9671
    @rcinhand9671 Місяць тому

    You could say the FMS is one the answer to the Traxxas.

  • @mangler.m4950
    @mangler.m4950 2 місяці тому

    I will not claim it’s a clone but, Clipless body and locking diffs, I think, didn’t exist until Traxxas. I could be wrong but I can’t think of anything else. I think Axial started the dig function or at least Axial made it a popular option. At this point, if FMS “cloned” anyone, they cloned everyone. The only thing I can I think of is unique on the market is the Vanquish Phoenix VS410 with the remote switchable overdrive and the Element Gatekeeper/Ecto trailing arm design.

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому

      My 2005 Hilux had remote locking Diffs... so Traxxas must have copied that :)

    • @mangler.m4950
      @mangler.m4950 2 місяці тому

      @@TomleyRC yes but aren’t all RC cars technically a clone of real cars/trucks/ 10x10 Russian tank trains.

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому

      @@mangler.m4950 yes, that's my point. So to say FMS copied Traxxas is wrong... because they all copied 1:1's :)

    • @mangler.m4950
      @mangler.m4950 2 місяці тому

      @@TomleyRC To be fair, I am agreeing with you that it is not a clone. I am not defending the claim that it is a clone. I’m only saying Traxxas may have been the first to have those features in an RC car. Remote Locking diffs were in the Summit way before the trx4 and Clipless body started on the XMaxx or maybe the ERevo 2.0. The FMS is a pretty cool truck and has a hell of a price. If I was starting fresh and wanted a crawler, it would be a toss up between the FMS and the new Redcat Ascent Fusion.

  • @caststhrowsbladespews
    @caststhrowsbladespews 2 місяці тому

    Well, we all know it couldn't be a copy/clone... because we would have already heard about the law suit if it was. 😂

  • @charleshurley8927
    @charleshurley8927 2 місяці тому +1

    You forgot the fms has an adjustable drag brake from a channel on the transmitter

    • @albertkelly7129
      @albertkelly7129 2 місяці тому

      and counter rotating drive shafts. the thing is engineered deep and absolutely loaded!

  • @V8chump
    @V8chump 2 місяці тому

    Wow that fcx body looks really good. I really like the trx scale bodies but sweet baby Jesus they’re DUMB EXPENSIVE

  • @loadsamtube
    @loadsamtube 2 місяці тому

    FMS is great! Their products always give us surprise!

  • @mahedertaye4201
    @mahedertaye4201 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks but i can't 😊.

  • @mr.steve017
    @mr.steve017 2 місяці тому

    Hey Tom do you remember when we were kids and use to stick a playing cards in are spokes to make a simulate the sound of a motor? Can you try this in a rc truck. Not with a card per say but maybe with another motor inside a soda can hitting against something inside the can to simulate the sound of a motor.

  • @OneLoveRC
    @OneLoveRC 2 місяці тому

    Hahahaha great review FMS is really hitting it hard with amazing products I totally dig what they are doing

  • @franklee6301
    @franklee6301 2 місяці тому +2

    My FCX10 has been run less than 3 hours. The steering servo is dead. The esc freezes in reverse. It feels cheap and was. The nicest thinf about it is the transmitter.

    • @Casitascrawlers
      @Casitascrawlers 2 місяці тому

      I believe you have to switch the toggle buttons to get rid of the reverse delay it’s not a issue the servo I’ve looked at mine & it’ll be one of the first things I replace it’s common unfortunately I have a SCX 10 3 JLU that was $500 & the dig servo died first time out & soon after the main servo & I have a TRX 4 2021 Bronco & the main servo went out on my first run in water & it was t even actually submerged just went through a little water & that was over $550 so ya kinda see the point. Eventually FMS is coming out with a separate esc so you can replace the motor & still use the remote that will be one of the things I’m waiting for so I can replace all the electronics.

    • @franklee6301
      @franklee6301 2 місяці тому

      @Casitascrawlers nope, it's not a toggle issue. The fact that other brands sell rtr's with shity servos is no excuse. From the web page filled with erros to the truck that was rushed to market too quickly I'm unimpressed with FMS. I'm glad others are enjoying there's, I've had a different experience. Have fun crawling or trailing or building today.

    • @Casitascrawlers
      @Casitascrawlers 2 місяці тому

      @@franklee6301 I know there is a double tap rear throttle you can change to normal with the toggles but sometimes it’s just bad luck I’ve seen real new cars with without even plates yet broken down & for sure anyones thought would be ok well don’t buy that brand but but just like reviews if I see one or to negative reviews on anything & 100 good reviews I’d buy that product with out hesitation it’s just human nature to not be happy with things & complain. 😂

    • @franklee6301
      @franklee6301 2 місяці тому

      @Casitascrawlers the truck was released 10 days ago or so, it's far to early to tell how many are duds. You enjoy your FMS, I've gotten a refund for mine and am on to something with years of evidence to support its hype.

  • @Zack_G_E
    @Zack_G_E 2 місяці тому

    Wow, I didn't realize how much you guys have to pay for a trx4. I love my 79 Bronco one, but i wouldn't have gotten it if it was that much lol .

  • @jasonice1584
    @jasonice1584 Місяць тому

    I don't mind buying clones if it's quality built and I get a really good deal

  • @FeralRC
    @FeralRC 2 місяці тому +2

    Definitely not a clone but heavily influenced which I can definitely appreciate. Trx4 is an excellent platform. I have one as well as a few clones and they're all a blast.

    • @TomleyRC
      @TomleyRC  2 місяці тому

      Yes, they are decent.. just a little expensive

  • @robg3836
    @robg3836 2 місяці тому

    Chassis support the same only different shape

  • @brandonrobinson1603
    @brandonrobinson1603 2 місяці тому

    No trumpet sound for the pointer finger?!

  • @Slow_PEV
    @Slow_PEV Місяць тому

    I have fms and traxxas but still catch shit from Traxxas haters just for showing my rig that ive put alot of time and money into. I love that rc is popping still. Maybe the drama is good for views.

  • @stevefrench3564
    @stevefrench3564 2 місяці тому

    that sucks they cost so much.. i probably would only have 1 rc....

  • @kristynstill8450
    @kristynstill8450 2 місяці тому

    fms are constantly changing and they are a quality build