"Hnn..?" "Misund..? Hmm..?" "Your negotiation skills assume you're bargaining from a position of strength." I think the courier is pretending to be dumb
Domino talks about needing an "escort" to go to the fountain and insists that he would not go alone. Courier agrees. Domino notices that you have a companion and decides to go alone.
+Mad Max Rockatansky to be fair, the engine they're working with is kinda limited. but then again you're mostly right since there's an unlimited companion mod sooooo.....
Yeah, in fallout 2 even if you had a shitload of companions you could get your ass ripped (remember that cave full of raiders? I had freaking Marcus, Cass and the Tribal. Marcus almost always killed me or some of the companions, so i had to try a shitload of times until I got it right).
I wish there were more changes to dialog if you had low intelligence like in fallout 1. like it would be funnier if he said at 2:01 "if my boom boom goes boom you go boom boom too " or something to keep the impression that your character is an idiot
I think what we need is a remaster of New Vegas, if only at least to make it more stable lol. But imagine the awesome story and mechanics of new vegas, with the redone combat system and graphics of Fallout 4. It would be amazing.
Vynyster nor just the graphics slightly touched up either. I want a remaster of new Vegas to look good as fallout 4 or even much better. I also want it to support mods like fallout 4 does. The mods make the game too funny.
its so fucking dumb too. like, passing skill checks is supposed to be a GOOD thing. i was trying to get the good ending of dead money, only to have dean turn hostile with no means of talking him out of it. turns out... THIS conversation is a beginners trap. you HAVE to play ball with him and feed into his ego. or else youll kill him. why have a speech check option thats actually BAD if you pass it?
It's because they're not silent, they have your voice, or a voice in your head, sounding like al Capone or some shit. Not just the same cookie cutter I have a backstory already shit of four. New Vegas on the other hand gave you so many diolauge options I've spent good time debating would Johnny Dangerously would say in this situation in my head. Even the backstory they gave you had you discovering your past and then still be vague about it. Really helps you build a meaningful character in the world.
The biggest issue is that someone needs to voice all those lines. When you have to pay an actor for every single one, you dont give the player so much choice. Hence, Fallout 4.
1:52 You just screwed yourself out of a peaceful resolution with Dean. Using Barter against him at any point causes him to feel insulted and turn hostile in the end.
its such a stupid, STUPID design decision. why have a skill check thats actually BAD if its passed with no way of knowing its effects until hours later? like, this is the only skill check i can think of in fallout history thats reward is actually BAD. like its a beginners trap with no possible way of knowing.
@@supersmashbro596 Because it is an inversion of the stereotypical mechanics. Dead Money requires a lot of thinking regarding how you interact, as opposed to defaulting to advancing with skill checks. This scene demonstrates it quite well that Dean Domino is a megalomaniac and egotistical-however, he is also quite intelligent in that his tells are subtle. (The best being that he is attempting to control the entire conversation with the explosive underneath the seat cushion.)
@@supersmashbro596 why is it stupid? Just because the option is there it doesn't mean you _have_ to use it. In any case, so what - just like it go like the theme of Dead Money tries to convey
"It's sights, sounds... and casinos, ripe for the taking. So giving the Sierra Madre one last nod and a wink, he set off beyond the Cloud to begin again." *RIP, Thank you and Goodbye.*
1:50 ... he can form sentences, all of a sudden? What's more, he's actually witty, persuasive. Where did his low intelligence go?... fucking foul, these new Fallouts.
Frankly, it's not the developer's fault for this one. New Vegas had a set deadline of 16 months from conception to release, Obsidian's business model is weird like that. More time, and it could have been the sequel the first two deserved... As of now, the only redemption for it is in mods.
***** Did you reply to the wrong comment? I'm not sure who you're responding to or what your point is if you aren't. The first guy was talking about how he hates this game and Fallout 3, wheras I was saying that this game was rushed and would have been a lot better if they had more time. Nothing about the AI.
No matter the area, the Fallout universe needs more people like Dean Domino: people who expect the worst out of everyone and approach every situation thusly. There's too many people just willing to openly chat with any passerby, especially the player character. I'd like getting trapped in some scenario (the one depicted here is great) more than just waltzing through the wasteland of post-apocalypse USA with more impunity than what you have today.
You're forgetting that there's civilizations sprouting up like in New Vegas...so I doubt when you approach an NPC in a casino they're gonna let you know "I have a nuclear bomb don't try anything or everything dies again" but I see what you mean. Like out in the wasteland, I would think certain factions should probably be wary and guns at the ready when they see an unidentifiable loner running straight at them. But at the same time, that's a whole game element that'd take fucking forever to implement and all it would be good for is immersion. I mean it'd be cool and all, but that's a lot of work, and I imagine the companies will just say "forget about it, no one would care."
Shane Benjamson By suggesting Dean Domino's persona makes for a great staple in post-apocalyptic entertainment? It's just an observation. I wasn't insulting you, I was just saying it took a long time for someone to over-analyze my opinion.
(I know, I know, late reply) Isn't that exactly what the Boomers did for generations? They see anyone approaching Nellis Air Force Base and what do they do? Blast them with missile launchers until they turn the other way or become a pile of ash on the ground! And even after you're inside the compound they don't even begun to trust you after you've completed a bunch of quests for them. And despite that, Raquel in particular keeps acting openly hostile to you. Granted, the Boomers were a bit of a special case in that their isolationism was almost cult-like, but I'd like to see that kind of mentality in more factions in future games. And don't forget the BoS in Hidden Valley pointing their guns at you and demanding you to take off everything you're carrying and get the fuck out of their bunker if you go there without Veronica. Or the Railroad in Fallout 4 doing something similar and not letting you go until you explain who the hell you are and how did you find their secret hideout. Although the Railroad have extra reasons to be distrustful of strangers considering what they do.
southparkkenny2 well its too bloody late for that, free XP was free XP, and i am not crazy to start the Dead Money DLC again from the start...hell no. Shame really....
This one Barter check is what sets ALL Dean's plot line to shit. How was I supposed to know he will outright wanna murder me in the Casino if I commit to this Barter check?
Yeah. And the thing is for Dog/God and Christine it's pretty easy to figure out why they're good with you and how to save them, but with dean... his ego is so fragile and barter checks make him murderous. So it's really difficult to even figure out in the first place why he wanted to kill you
@@thesaviordj1987 I mean he's easy enough to save once you get a feel for his personality - He's got an incredibly fragile ego and 200 years in the Sierra Madre has made him a bit paranoid. So don't spook him, insult him, or one-up him and he's fine.
I did my first playthrough on Hardcore, and I'm really glad I did. I feel like Dead Money would be way too easy on Normal, but on Hardcore the Sierra Madre is a really tense and oppressive place. I went through about 50 Doctor's Bags and 20 Hydras before we even got into the casino.
Ben Cross Not really, appropriate replies were few and far between (some characters in DLCs, mostly). Also, a moronic main character's speech is very inconsistent, sometimes they're very articulate, sometimes they're basically braindead. Franek Kimono: Of course it's handled worse compared to the first games, the sequels have voice acting too. It would have cost a shitload of money to create appropriate replies for everyone. Anyway, sometimes the lack of NPC reaction makes the conversations actually funnier in my opinion.
Dávid B But even in older Fallouts there were few long dialogues on low INT. Most of the people on the wasteland (even those famous talking faces) were reacting like "get out of here you moron, don't waste my time" and it forced you to search another route to finish a quest, so really voice acting should have those short answers and it isn't that much of a work, especially when you work with something like 10 voice actors and just modulate their voice.
Ben Cross Bullshit. After the first few "moron style replies he become a fucking intellectual. There is no TOTALLY different dialogue to have as a moron. It's just some poor piss-ass flavor. Dialogue in F1 and F2 was a master piece...TEN FUCKING YEARS AGO !
whats funny is.... this conversation is extremely important in deciding deans fate. you HAVE to play ball with him, or he'll be hostile at the end of the dlc. 1:52 aaaand you just killed him. yes. passing this speech check is actually a bad thing.
doesnt understand the word "misunderstandings" but can fluently throw off "I'll save my questions for the end - please, go on". if he has a speech of 25.
I think you are getting Fallout 3 and New Vegas mixed up. Fallout 3 wasn't challenging in the fucking slightest. Enemies scaled to your level, and there was practically no downside to having 10 Intelligence because all the other SPECIAL stats weren't as good.
The inconsistency is kinda annoying. At first you are dumb as a sack of rocks, then suddenly you barter like a pro-salesman about what to do. I hope they look into that in Fallout 4.
Dead Money was the hardest DLC, or at least it felt that way. Everyone and everything is out to kill you. 'The Pitt,' which came close in oppressiveness, let you be really allied with one of the factions.
"It's a bomb. Go boom."
+NekoToby HNNH? ME SHOULDER!
Hypercharge Really a shame, that Bethesda does not share that kind of humor.
Fucking degenerates , I'll enslave everyone of you.
Shut up, Ignorant Fox.
No.
"Hnn..?"
"Misund..? Hmm..?"
"Your negotiation skills assume you're bargaining from a position of strength."
I think the courier is pretending to be dumb
"What are you talking about?"
Me take your job cause me smarter than you.
Hnh
Gotta wait for the brain to register
Domino talks about needing an "escort" to go to the fountain and insists that he would not go alone. Courier agrees. Domino notices that you have a companion and decides to go alone.
+Mad Max Rockatansky to be fair, the engine they're working with is kinda limited. but then again you're mostly right since there's an unlimited companion mod sooooo.....
Yeah, in fallout 2 even if you had a shitload of companions you could get your ass ripped (remember that cave full of raiders? I had freaking Marcus, Cass and the Tribal. Marcus almost always killed me or some of the companions, so i had to try a shitload of times until I got it right).
K Chung Strange. I've never struggled with that:o
Heh, the Courier tricked Dean into thinking he had low intelligence...or maybe the Courier tricked Dean into believing he was smarter than he looked.
Maybe both.
yes
Get fucked
Sorry my need to be a correcting asshole stretch’s beyond the length of time. YOU SAID THE SAME BASIC IDEA AT THE SAME TIME! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
His voice actor died today. RIP
Kunkkaaaaaaa
W H A T
Really? Fuck, man.
I wish there were more changes to dialog if you had low intelligence like in fallout 1. like it would be funnier if he said at 2:01 "if my boom boom goes boom you go boom boom too " or something to keep the impression that your character is an idiot
If only they got more time 😔
Fallout " Special Edition " XD
Clever one!
Out of all the times you could have picked to smarten up, you picked the conversation choice that pisses off/intimidates Dean the most.
Fallout 4: All is you need is high charisma
Fallout New Vegas: What are flowers of Pock Lips? I with me...huhh? Whats intelligunce lol
New Vegas is much better. ^^
Do flowers and bear play together?
TheForgery
With a lot tension between them
I think what we need is a remaster of New Vegas, if only at least to make it more stable lol. But imagine the awesome story and mechanics of new vegas, with the redone combat system and graphics of Fallout 4. It would be amazing.
Vynyster nor just the graphics slightly touched up either. I want a remaster of new Vegas to look good as fallout 4 or even much better. I also want it to support mods like fallout 4 does. The mods make the game too funny.
has glasses, but no ears, those are tight around the head or he has learned telepathy
or his head might be sticky...
or worse he keeps the side peaces in his flesh
they might be fused on, considering he was a guest when the bombs fell, and was most likely wearing them when he became ghoulified.
He is actually morpheus from the matrix.
@@ZetaByt This is what I always assumed. Especially considering he's the only ghoul in the series so far with eyewear.
Anyone who's played Metal Gear Solid 2 will probably recognize his voice. Especially when he starts talking about bombs.
Oh fuck, it's fatman?
HUICZE WRYI Yep. He also played Uldred in Dragon Age and Pontius Pilate in Jesus Christ Superstar.
He's also Rubick, Chaos Knight, Phantom Lancer
FATMAN? *mind explodes*
Too bad the voice actor for Fatman is dead now.
Passing any barter checks with dean will cause him to become hostile at the end with no way to spare him.
Stromorph what happens without the checks
AlmightySeanSantana You can convince him to abandon the Sierra Madre. He wanders out into the Mojave, looking to rob other casinos.
its so fucking dumb too. like, passing skill checks is supposed to be a GOOD thing.
i was trying to get the good ending of dead money, only to have dean turn hostile with no means of talking him out of it.
turns out... THIS conversation is a beginners trap. you HAVE to play ball with him and feed into his ego. or else youll kill him.
why have a speech check option thats actually BAD if you pass it?
Silent protagonist gives so much more fkn feel to the game. Proper "RPG" if you will.
It's because they're not silent, they have your voice, or a voice in your head, sounding like al Capone or some shit. Not just the same cookie cutter I have a backstory already shit of four. New Vegas on the other hand gave you so many diolauge options I've spent good time debating would Johnny Dangerously would say in this situation in my head. Even the backstory they gave you had you discovering your past and then still be vague about it. Really helps you build a meaningful character in the world.
The biggest issue is that someone needs to voice all those lines. When you have to pay an actor for every single one, you dont give the player so much choice. Hence, Fallout 4.
0:48 - Best threat ever.
dat upper class english accent
1:52 You just screwed yourself out of a peaceful resolution with Dean. Using Barter against him at any point causes him to feel insulted and turn hostile in the end.
its such a stupid, STUPID design decision.
why have a skill check thats actually BAD if its passed with no way of knowing its effects until hours later?
like, this is the only skill check i can think of in fallout history thats reward is actually BAD.
like its a beginners trap with no possible way of knowing.
@@supersmashbro596 Because it is an inversion of the stereotypical mechanics. Dead Money requires a lot of thinking regarding how you interact, as opposed to defaulting to advancing with skill checks. This scene demonstrates it quite well that Dean Domino is a megalomaniac and egotistical-however, he is also quite intelligent in that his tells are subtle. (The best being that he is attempting to control the entire conversation with the explosive underneath the seat cushion.)
@@supersmashbro596 why is it stupid? Just because the option is there it doesn't mean you _have_ to use it. In any case, so what - just like it go like the theme of Dead Money tries to convey
G O B O O M
"It's sights, sounds... and casinos, ripe for the taking. So giving the Sierra Madre one last nod and a wink, he set off beyond the Cloud to begin again."
*RIP, Thank you and Goodbye.*
1:50 ... he can form sentences, all of a sudden? What's more, he's actually witty, persuasive. Where did his low intelligence go?... fucking foul, these new Fallouts.
Uhhh?
Frankly, it's not the developer's fault for this one. New Vegas had a set deadline of 16 months from conception to release, Obsidian's business model is weird like that. More time, and it could have been the sequel the first two deserved... As of now, the only redemption for it is in mods.
Dirty Blue Hnh??
Alex Kharlampiev Ice cream?
***** Did you reply to the wrong comment? I'm not sure who you're responding to or what your point is if you aren't. The first guy was talking about how he hates this game and Fallout 3, wheras I was saying that this game was rushed and would have been a lot better if they had more time. Nothing about the AI.
Options:
"HUH!?!!?"
"Better be a shaped charge, or else we'll both explode."
Wonderful variety.
Rip Berry Dennen.
His voice was legendary.
No matter the area, the Fallout universe needs more people like Dean Domino: people who expect the worst out of everyone and approach every situation thusly. There's too many people just willing to openly chat with any passerby, especially the player character. I'd like getting trapped in some scenario (the one depicted here is great) more than just waltzing through the wasteland of post-apocalypse USA with more impunity than what you have today.
You're forgetting that there's civilizations sprouting up like in New Vegas...so I doubt when you approach an NPC in a casino they're gonna let you know "I have a nuclear bomb don't try anything or everything dies again" but I see what you mean. Like out in the wasteland, I would think certain factions should probably be wary and guns at the ready when they see an unidentifiable loner running straight at them. But at the same time, that's a whole game element that'd take fucking forever to implement and all it would be good for is immersion. I mean it'd be cool and all, but that's a lot of work, and I imagine the companies will just say "forget about it, no one would care."
It took a full year and a month for the pedantic's to come out, new record.
DJ Wise Pariah Hypocritical. Aren't you the one being pedantic first?
Shane Benjamson By suggesting Dean Domino's persona makes for a great staple in post-apocalyptic entertainment? It's just an observation. I wasn't insulting you, I was just saying it took a long time for someone to over-analyze my opinion.
(I know, I know, late reply) Isn't that exactly what the Boomers did for generations? They see anyone approaching Nellis Air Force Base and what do they do? Blast them with missile launchers until they turn the other way or become a pile of ash on the ground! And even after you're inside the compound they don't even begun to trust you after you've completed a bunch of quests for them. And despite that, Raquel in particular keeps acting openly hostile to you. Granted, the Boomers were a bit of a special case in that their isolationism was almost cult-like, but I'd like to see that kind of mentality in more factions in future games.
And don't forget the BoS in Hidden Valley pointing their guns at you and demanding you to take off everything you're carrying and get the fuck out of their bunker if you go there without Veronica. Or the Railroad in Fallout 4 doing something similar and not letting you go until you explain who the hell you are and how did you find their secret hideout. Although the Railroad have extra reasons to be distrustful of strangers considering what they do.
How appropriate to have that song in the background
Oh great they've sent me a MORRAAAAAN
It doesn't seem like low intelligence to me, It just seems like the Courier in this video has ADHD.
well you just screwed up saving dean, you can't use the barter option with him.
dead money was quite hard to get through, ESPECIALLY the guard holograms!!!
When he said "I'll blast your ass so far through your head" I just died laughing.
I wanted to be friends Domino! You little weasel!
If you wanted to be friends, you should never do that barter check.
southparkkenny2 well its too bloody late for that, free XP was free XP, and i am not crazy to start the Dead Money DLC again from the start...hell no. Shame really....
southparkkenny2 Barter check?
@@StoicNatsoc it is quite short if u have done the dlc once.
i like how he gets smart all of a sudden
Itz a bomb. Goubum
I like the way Dean speaks =D
Dead Money might've been my favorite DLC.
Dean did that to me too. I demand I follow you. Alright, let's go. Whoops, sorry, you already got one, I guess I won't follow you afterall.
Virgin Bethesda Fallout 4 vs Chad Obsidian Fallout:new vegas
I play using hardcore for all my playthroughs, I believe my character was hurt bad when I took this video. So that would explain it.
Dean Domino is one of my favorite characaters in Fallout New Vegas
0:36 Sounds a bit like Stewie
0:32 Good to know the Courier gathered enough intelligence to make a coherent sentence!
This one Barter check is what sets ALL Dean's plot line to shit. How was I supposed to know he will outright wanna murder me in the Casino if I commit to this Barter check?
Yeah. And the thing is for Dog/God and Christine it's pretty easy to figure out why they're good with you and how to save them, but with dean... his ego is so fragile and barter checks make him murderous. So it's really difficult to even figure out in the first place why he wanted to kill you
@@thesaviordj1987 I mean he's easy enough to save once you get a feel for his personality - He's got an incredibly fragile ego and 200 years in the Sierra Madre has made him a bit paranoid. So don't spook him, insult him, or one-up him and he's fine.
I did my first playthrough on Hardcore, and I'm really glad I did. I feel like Dead Money would be way too easy on Normal, but on Hardcore the Sierra Madre is a really tense and oppressive place. I went through about 50 Doctor's Bags and 20 Hydras before we even got into the casino.
this is why i prefer new vegas, Obsidian weren't lazy and low intel had appropriate replies
Ben Cross It still sucks compared to F1 and 2.
Ben Cross Not really, appropriate replies were few and far between (some characters in DLCs, mostly). Also, a moronic main character's speech is very inconsistent, sometimes they're very articulate, sometimes they're basically braindead.
Franek Kimono: Of course it's handled worse compared to the first games, the sequels have voice acting too. It would have cost a shitload of money to create appropriate replies for everyone. Anyway, sometimes the lack of NPC reaction makes the conversations actually funnier in my opinion.
Dávid B But even in older Fallouts there were few long dialogues on low INT. Most of the people on the wasteland (even those famous talking faces) were reacting like "get out of here you moron, don't waste my time" and it forced you to search another route to finish a quest, so really voice acting should have those short answers and it isn't that much of a work, especially when you work with something like 10 voice actors and just modulate their voice.
Ben Cross Bullshit.
After the first few "moron style
replies he become a fucking intellectual.
There is no TOTALLY different dialogue to have as a moron. It's just some poor piss-ass flavor.
Dialogue in F1 and F2 was a master piece...TEN FUCKING YEARS AGO !
***** I like to think the courier was hustling him. Pretending to be dumber than you actually are can help you out in certain situations.
RIP Barry :(
I love Dean
"It's a bomb,Go boom"
I think you need to use a stimpack
whats funny is.... this conversation is extremely important in deciding deans fate. you HAVE to play ball with him, or he'll be hostile at the end of the dlc.
1:52
aaaand you just killed him. yes. passing this speech check is actually a bad thing.
H u h
*UGGIE*
hahahaha man i love fallout XD
I love the small detail that he accentuates "Just because I work in entertainment doesn't mean *I*'m a moron" if you fail the check.
Can you finish the Sierra Madre DLC without having to fight Dean? I couldn't manage it :c
+MBOmnis Don't do the barter and speech checks with him, if you do it later on he attempts to kill you.
Paulius Zubrus That's probably where I screwed up, then. Thanks for the info.
No problem!
He was. ;-;
And you need to escort him to the Fountain, if not he betrays you anyways
I had no idea the chair had a bomb, I always chose to stand
doesnt understand the word "misunderstandings" but can fluently throw off "I'll save my questions for the end - please, go on". if he has a speech of 25.
Respect for the green pip
I think you are getting Fallout 3 and New Vegas mixed up.
Fallout 3 wasn't challenging in the fucking slightest. Enemies scaled to your level, and there was practically no downside to having 10 Intelligence because all the other SPECIAL stats weren't as good.
Dean the Meat Skeltin
The inconsistency is kinda annoying. At first you are dumb as a sack of rocks, then suddenly you barter like a pro-salesman about what to do.
I hope they look into that in Fallout 4.
fuck......jaajajaja
Kinda strange that it jumps in and out of 'dumb'mode. I assumed all of the dialogue had 'dumb' interpretations.
Dead Money was the hardest DLC, or at least it felt that way. Everyone and everything is out to kill you. 'The Pitt,' which came close in oppressiveness, let you be really allied with one of the factions.
Hnh?
"Just because I work in entertainment doesn't mean I'm a moron."
No, but getting stuck here does!
Lol Pilate!!!!! RIP BARRY DENNEN
U can't be stupid like fallout 1 and 2 now your character has to be smart
Obviously make the British guy the posh villainous type, classic American games and movies xD
no they aren't with 100 sneak and watching their incredibly obvious patterns.
Such a lust for explosions! Who!?!?!?!?!?!?
I wonder if he thought shit shit shit do not sit up
Also Rubick's voice actor
Misund...? Hmmmmmmmmm........
Bomb!Where?"stays up and look at the chair."Boom!
Hnh?
....How did you even get that many?
No deathclaws in Dead Money..
It's actually challenging.
4-21-18 anyone?
i love all these videos xD
How the fuck?
i like this
it's subtle. I love it
Misund...? Ummm.
Dead Money, The closest thing to fallout 3 in New Vegas.
the video has low intelligence because he bought this DLC
I hate this dlc.