As many have noticed, Seles was not American citizen until 1994. I got my data from www.wtatennis.com/players/player/190141/title/monica-seles As you can see, only the current nationality is available through the website. Unfortunately, I didn't do enough research on my end either. My apologies to those feel offended. I will fix this issue in the next update.
Yes absolutely Moncia seles was a Yugoslavian back in her rise as a tennis star so we have to be grateful for Serbia too to bring an Unbelievable legend to tennis.
Steffi's resume and professionalism speak for themselves. 1988 was also her golden year, as she completed a Super Slam, the only player to have achieved that in a period of 12 months, winning all four Grand Slam Titles, the Olympic Gold Medal (Golden Slam), and the WTA Tour Championships. Graf won five major consecutive titles in 1988-89 and four more in 1993-94, making her the only women’s singles player to win four consecutive titles in a career - twice. She is also the only singles player, male or female to have won at least four titles at each Grand Slam, a sign of her remarkable versatility and adaptability across all kinds of surfaces. ALSO 377 Weeks at No.1 (lowest ranking was 93 back on 11/21/83 this was back when she debuted). Retired too early, she was ranked No.3 at time of retirement.
Oh yes Monica owned everyone on all surfaces except grass. Very very sad what happened to her. Funny enough they I think tried to get her from stopping her shrieking when she made a shot. But the stabbing was too traumatic she never really recovered.
Good times with the battles between the William sisters and Henin & Clijsters, with Davenport, Capriati and Sharapova in the mix, that was the golden age of women's tennis. And Seles ❤❤❤
@@JB-xw6bz Is there a better time period for women's competition? Serena is arguably the best women's tennis player and only the ones named above could give her a run for her money in her prime. Graf is among the greats, but her only real competition was Seles, who pretty much dominated her until the accident.
@@joaquingonzalo1945 Wikipedia... Monica Seles (/ˈsɛləs/; Hungarian: Szeles Mónika, pronounced [ˈsɛlɛʃ ˈmoːnikɒ]; Serbian: Моника Селеш, Monika Seleš; born December 2, 1973) is a retired professional tennis player, who represented Yugoslavia and the United States and is also a member of the International Tennis Hall of Fame. An ethnic Hungarian, she was born and raised in Novi Sad, Yugoslavia. She became a naturalized American citizen in 1994 and also received Hungarian citizenship in June 2007.[1][2] A former world no. 1, she won nine Grand Slam singles titles, eight of them as a teenager while representing Yugoslavia, and the final one while representing the United States.
Wow - I did not know Halep did not quit the top 10 since 2014 !!!! That’s 5 years now !!!! Not her Nbr 1 fan but she’s one of the most consistent players for the past 5 years ... interesting video , thanks for sharing
Monica Seles forever number 1. What happened to her is unconscionable. She had 8 grand slams at 19 years old and had her whole 20s ahead of her. It's scary to think how many she would have amassed had she not been so brutally interrupted. At 19, Serena only had 1 grand slam. Still, Seles had the most amazing game I've ever seen. Serena has the power and serve. Seles had the devastating return game. I am so bitter Serena didn't get to play the original Monica. I can only imagine the points. 😍😍😍😍
@C o NO, Serena was born in 1981. When Monica was number 1 in the world, Serena was only 10, 11, and 12 years old. Serena beat Monica after the stabbing incident when Monica obviously was not the same player. Monica was incredible before that horrible tragedy. Her groundstrokes and mental toughness were unmatched .
Seles ranking varies a lot after the stabbing but she managed to be in the top 10 steady from 1995 thru 2003! The years of Hingis&Davenport & Williams Sisters. Admired her tenacity so much!!! Definitely her absence in 1994 benefit Sanchez Vicario & Conchita Martinez and many others(nobody expected Conchita win Wimbledon 94)Miss Monica so much... the aggressive and precise game of Monica Seles! uuuhhhh heeeeee!!! lol love MS!!!!
Seles could've challenged Graf as GOAT, but we'll never know for sure. She came back, but I don't think she was 100%. Maybe 98%, but even that small dip kept her from being one of the all-time greats.
Graf was the most benefited with Seles absence. Anyway Graf is far from being the GOAT, her record of more weeks in number one (not anymore) was, in many ways, circumstantial.
@@cutechilean Everytime saw Sanchez Vicario in the final is like "wow she is so consistent to beat everybody" and lost with Graf at the final (except USO94) and her record with Seles before the stabbing 1-9. Besides Graf,Sanchez Vicario benefits a lot from Seles absence. Like when you say "in many ways, circumstancial" love it bro
Graf should really thank Monica's stabber. The stabbing made Graf #1 again. Poor Seles was badly hurt, both physically and psychologically. Seles was never the same player afterwards.
anderson Screw idiots like that. That's like saying Serena only won so much because she was bigger and stronger than everyone else. Too bad all the greats didn't play in the same era. Can you imagine Serena. Martina, Chrissy, Billy Jean, Margaret Court, Venus etc, etc competing year after year, head to head!!!! In ä Word, WOW
@@Trepur349 She did but at the end of their career and while they were much older. Seles who was the serious competition and potential winner had to drop. So no real competition for Graf. Serena had tough competition she was just so far ahead she made everyone else look weaker. lol
@@nikosgr9290 Serena had tough competition at the beginning of her career, Cljisters, Henin etc. But they were all retired by 2008. The rest of Serena's career, where she won 2/3rds of her slams, she had no competition, Kerber, Wozniaki and Halep being 2nd through 4th best players of the last decade. All laughably worse than Everet, Martina, Seles, Sabatini, Davenport etc.
She had no competition, because she mastered a shot no woman can play that well. The backhand slice is an underrated and underused shot, especially in women's tennis today. Everyone is just playing brainless power tennis. If the girls would use their brain and play low slice shots against Serena, Serena would have tough time lifting the ball over the net with her 175 pounds.
tjrtt not true. The slice - at least the way Steffi hit it - would be incredibly effective today. All the women today hit the same ball, hard and flat. That’s why Serena has prospered. Take the ball out of her zone and make her actually time it and add controlled pace, and she won’t be so effective. (Remember her loss in the US Open semis a couple years ago.). The other women would be even more pressed playing against that knifing slice.
Her slice was amazing and she has one of the best forehands ever. That's some good variety. But anyone saying Steffi didn't have the competition that Serena had are absolutely false. Serena's toughest rival during her career has been her own sister. Have you seen some of the players Steffi beat to win Slams? Also Steffi retired at a pretty low age because of injury but also she was the best ever, so why wouldn't she. She had no real motivation anymore. Serena on the other hand won most her Slams after the age of 30 that's when Steffi already retired and there's no competition when Serena reached her 30's. Steffi faced players that were way more consistent. Steffi constantly met the same players in the final of Slams or even earlier. And we can't forget that Seles could have been the GOAT or at least make it similar to Navratilova vs Evert. Steffi vs Seles would be an all time rivalry. Serena has never faced a player at the level of Seles so while it is sad that she got stabbed that would only make Steffi have a truly truly tough career with playing a top 5 of all time player throughout her career, Serena hasn't had that. Serena faced some strong players but not consistently.
Lindsay Davenport was asked in an interview after her retirement who was the toughest player she had competed against (taking into account she played in the Graf, Williams sisters, caparati, Henin era) she replied by saying Steffi Graf that her slice was never given the credit it should have had.
The saddest part here is Monica Seles stabbing.. Steffi Graf pre 1990 achievements are great but her post 93 stabbing achievements are totally questionable.. 6-7 out of 11 GS she won after Seles stabbing is undeserving, so do is her no 1 status at that period.. history was cheated.. Seles was truly gone ( she was never the Seles after comeback) ,
@Illya Kuryakin look at this video...seles took over for a couple if weeks..lol...graf did not deserve her slams after the stabbing...believe what u believe but seles owned her before the stabbing...
@Illya Kuryakin blimey Ur here as well . what a psychopath says dsnt matter we r fans of true tennis and we all know what the truth is. Other than the Wimbledons all the other post 93Ao grandslams of Graf are extra gifts. Whole world knows that and your thorough UA-cam campaign can't change that..
@Illya Kuryakin your blackmail scandal story didn't work either. And everyone knows Seles won 7 of 9 and how many graf won and suddenly after Seles gone she won 5 of 5 . But it seems Ur shameless and dsnt possess a normal mind so even after so much bashing u got all over UA-cam ,it didn't make u realise that Ur wrong. So u know the jihadis they are such brainwashed their thought can't be changed with truth.. I leave it at that..if it were someone sensible I would continue the points..but no point talking to you
@@bozzanovva1596 this Illya is a psychiatric patient . Don't argue you will waste your time. We all know the truth. Graf would get max 11+4 GS without Hamburg stabbing.. whole world knows that
Graff is undoubtedly the greatest female tennis player of all times! None can rival her technique, foot work, consistency, power, grace, humility and sportmanship. She retired at 30 in her prime. If she had played a few more years, no one would ever beat her GS records.
For me Steffi won only one doubles grandslam, if you're going to decide on greatest ever then it would be 1 Martina N, 2 Margaret, 3 Serena, 4 Steffi, 5 Billie Jean, 6 Martina H . If choosing the best you must consider all their accomplishments, not just in singles. I did however put her at 4! Maybe if you had to decide singles player only it would be a tie between Steffi and Serena!
@@ronnieconner5908 to me doubles are completely irrelevant. Dont even watch them 🤷♀️ so I dont take them into consideration when ranking best players.
@@PozoBlue everyone is not you! To me Martina Navratilova was the best ever. I watch both singles and doubles. I respect your decision but feel all players accomplishments are important and everyone is entitled to their opinion! 🤓 oh, and have a nice day! 🤓
Who cares? Seles did take over number 1 from Graf before the stabbing and would have 8 of Graf's Grand Slams had she not been attacked. The fact is Graf's career would never had been what it is had her fan not taken out Seles with a knife
I remember vividly when Monica Seles came in with her famous grunt and two-handed forehand-backhand combo and literally changed the game forever. The stabbing incident is the only reason why she didn't reach #1 on this list. No shade to the other ladies but Monica was simply legendary and freak of nature talent-wise.
I hated the grunting. I always rooted against Seles (and Sharapova, and Serena) because I consider it to be unsportsmanlike. It is impossible to know, but I think it highly likely that if Seles had not been stabbed Serena would be #1 on this list because Seles and Graf--both of whom are better than Serena, in my opinion--would have split many titles and weeks at number one.
Steffi Graf is the greatest female tennis player of all time. Her stats are better than Serena's in every category. The only reason people think Serena is better is because she's won one more slam than Graf (23-22). BUT people don't take into account Serena entered many more slams than Graf did and has played much longer. Actually Graf's enter to win ratio in slams is far better than Serena. Add to that Graf actually won the calendar golden slam and dominated her era like no other player. Serena has had to many highs and lows. Go take a critical look at the stats. Graf is greatest of all time. One more thing this SPECULATION Graf wouldn't have been as successful because of the Monica Seles stabbing is pure bull shit. Graf played who was in front of her. Graf retired on top and had she stayed in the sport may have won 30 slams.
Well said Timothy. Statistically speaking Steffi's stats are far more impressive than Serena's. One of the ways I rank the greatest playersi is by comparing their best seasons. Steffi has had 5 seasons where she won 3 or more grand slams, 3 times where she won every match. Her 1988/89/93/95/96 seasons all rank in my top ten of all time. Only one of Serena's - 2002
@@reynardtg Serena has the greatest serve of all time and maybe the best return of serve. Steffi had a great serve too and the superior forehand. Steffi was the best mover in tennis history. Her sliced back hand was natural and she volleyed better than Serena who is a mediocre volleyer. I prefer the fluid gazelle style of Graf to the power thuggery of Serena and and the modern game.
@@timothyhudson9976 Agree with you. Was watching clips here from the Australian Open 1994 last week. Arguably Steffi at the peak of her powers, everything working, but her movement was phenomenal. One other thing that separated Steffi was her pursuit of perfection on the court rather than records, unlike Serena and Martina who nailed their colours to achieving status in the game as the best ever. When Steffi won her q/f against MJ Fernandez Wimbledon 95, for example, she was elated because she knew she had played near perfect tennis.
Does anyone know the reason at 3:31 to 3:33 when Conchita Martínez surpasses Jana Novotná and Martina Hingis becoming world No.4 by the end of 1996? There should be no tournament at that time for such drastic change in ranking.
10:47 I know it is hard to distinguish them since they are twins. But I think you put picture of Kristýna Plíšková instead of Karolína! You must have made Kristýna pretty amused though if she sees this.. :D
Wonderful video; it showed us by numbers the performance of the big players. I always knew that Serena is great, but never imagined that she was that great. She ranks right after Graf and Navratilova, and she is still playing. Wow, what an achievement, dear Serena. I wish you continue to play and get back to RANK NUMBER ONE, which you deserve. I believe this video will silence all the Serena haters who are prejudiced and are jealous of her outstanding abilities.
@Jose Cardenas Good point. Wimbledon springs to mind as I think it was all over in under an hour and it stopped Seles completing the calendar grand slam as I think she won the other 3 but I would have to check but yes you are right that was a close match and even clay was not her best surface she still won 5 or 6 French Open titles which is pretty amazing
Serena and Venus has played through some of the toughest eras in tennis, and they both are still playing top notch tennis today, especially for their age. Incredible
What software is used to make these 'ranking history' videos? I've seen so many of these charts and I'd like to make one myself but I have no idea how.
Monika Seleš was Serbian untill 94 and forced to take American citizenship becauce so she can compete during the international sanctions to Serbia. Also Jelena Dokić is Serbian not Australian. To many faults on purpouse or not big dislike from me. Many mistakes in football ranks also I've noticed.
Danilo Ninkovic jelena Dokic played under Australian citizenship at the time she was top ten in the world. She changed to Serbia after then back to Australian
Dokic started her career playing for Australia, switched to Yugoslavia at the beginning of 2001, and switched back to Australia at the end of 2005. So yes, her peak rankings were achieved while she was playing for Yugoslavia. (I'm Australian ftr) She details the reasons for her changes of allegiance in her autobiography.
So proud we had 3 times number one in female tennis: Seles, Ivanovic and Jankovic. Novak is our treasure in male tennis. Waiting for Olga Danilovic to take the world top in max 5 years! 🇷🇸
Seles play under Yugoslavian flag till stabbing (first 8 Grand Slam titles), the same thing for Jelena Dokic, she wasn't playing under the Australian flag.
I can’t agree. I think she was a cheat. That bullshit fucking screaming that she did and hoes like Sharapova do is ridiculous. Same with Nadal and Djokovic, it’s an advantage to cover the balls noise through the air and a disadvantage to their playing partner. Should be banned, you don’t need to do it. Don’t hear boxers or mma fighters carrying on like that
Danilo Ninkovic ooh I new a Serb would comment when I mentioned Djokovic, haha. But if you think that comment is stupid Federer actually said it. But saying Federer to an arrogant Serb would only induce more negative comments. Federer is and always will be the GOAT. Also two handed backhands should be banned
Since 1975, only 28 women have been ranked No. 1 in singles. Of these, only 8, all legends of the game, had runs of 52 consecutive weeks or more at the top: Graf(3x), Serena, Navratilova, Evert, Seles & Hingis (2x), and Henin & Barty(once). By April next year, Swiatek will more than likely join this distinguished group when she records her 52nd consecutive week as No. 1.
Serena played in a lot more GS. If Steffi played in that many GS, she'd have more titles. Also, every other category Graf is ahead of Serena. Those that say Serena is unquestionably the GOAT need to actually look at the stats. You CAN make the argument for Serena, but it's no slam dunk. And don't forget Navritolova and Evert, with massive numbers of single titles under their belts (double that of Serena).
When you’re closer to 40 and still beating kids that are not even 20 or early 20’s come back and make this argument! It’s much harder to accomplish what Serena has accomplished or is currently than what Steffi did...
Why didn't you put the first names of the two younger Maleeva sisters (Кaterina and Magdalena), how should one know which one is which? Also the third Maleeva sister (Manuela) weren't called Maleeva-Fragniere and weren't competing for Switzerand before 1990
@@___kamal0902 aaajjjjaaaa eso es imposible, habiendo tenido Chile un número 1 en Tenis , tanto en hombres como en mujeres y teniendo a una Chilena 11 del mundo en la actualidad 🤣🤣🤣🇨🇱😎💪
@@@Андрей-ш7в5д Monika played unfair thats all. Her "noises" prevented form hearing if its slize or top spin. She only won with this unfair trick. And Steffi Graf won in spite of Monikas unfairness a lot of matches against her. Steffi Graf had a much better trained body a Monika. Because of that Monika needed these unfair behaviour to win.
@@aesop8694 True but that's not to say Steffi still wouldn't have been as great. We'll never know the greatness of their rivalry because of an asshole.
What achieved Monica Seles between 1989 and 1993 is amazing. When she came back to the competition after 28 months she was hitting the ball with more power, but her lack of movement due to her binge eating problems never let her to be a serious contender in Grand Slams tournaments. Binge eating disorders caused by the huge injustice she suffered in 1993 and the premature death of her beloved father and also coach who had started fighting against a cancer even before Monica courageous come back. I will never forget the miserable indifference with which Mrs Graf was winning Grand Slams tournaments during Monica’s absence. Despite that deranged man stabbed Monica with the declared intention of letting Graf to dominate again Frau forehand had never mentioned Monica during her speeches at the Grand Slams final ceremonies, except for the 1993 US Open edition when they made her a direct question about Monica, otherwise she wouldn’t had spent a single world about her greatest rival. Only Gabriela Sabatini and Helena Sukova contacted Monica for expressing her true human and professional support. Hopefully Monica showed her best human qualities after her retirement from professional tennis after 2003 and for me she will always be the best.
I mean we'll never know how good Seles would have been if she wasn't stabbed. Maybe Seles would be considered the GOAT today if she wasn't stabbed. Maybe she would have still come up slightly short of the almost impossibly good run Graf had between 1987 and 1991. It's impossible to say. Important to note that the peak of Graf's career happened years before the stabbing. Take away half of Graf's titles 1993 on, and I think Graf is still arguably the GOAT simply because of how good she was in the late 80s
@@starside7 It was a cruel and disgusting act, but still... Even at Seles BEST. Graf was better in my opinion, they played a lot against each other and Steffi won most of the matches...
@sara lincoln I know that, but that makes no difference. That was sad and horrible. I saw that on TV. But still, i was young and did not realize how good she was 😊 Why i has to defend my opinion against this fan, because i am german too? Do you think i sat at home and cheered after that? Seems like it, because you have to write it in BIG letters, shame on you... It's my opinion and it's backed up with statistcs, nobody knows how it would be if this has not happened
As many have noticed, Seles was not American citizen until 1994. I got my data from www.wtatennis.com/players/player/190141/title/monica-seles
As you can see, only the current nationality is available through the website. Unfortunately, I didn't do enough research on my end either. My apologies to those feel offended. I will fix this issue in the next update.
Wow, great job.
Yes absolutely Moncia seles was a Yugoslavian back in her rise as a tennis star so we have to be grateful for Serbia too to bring an Unbelievable legend to tennis.
Cool way to View Stats Good Ideal!
thats right
Yes. I was about to take note of that. She was a citizen of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.
Steffi's resume and professionalism speak for themselves. 1988 was also her golden year, as she completed a Super Slam, the only player to have achieved that in a period of 12 months, winning all four Grand Slam Titles, the Olympic Gold Medal (Golden Slam), and the WTA Tour Championships. Graf won five major consecutive titles in 1988-89 and four more in 1993-94, making her the only women’s singles player to win four consecutive titles in a career - twice. She is also the only singles player, male or female to have won at least four titles at each Grand Slam, a sign of her remarkable versatility and adaptability across all kinds of surfaces. ALSO 377 Weeks at No.1 (lowest ranking was 93 back on 11/21/83 this was back when she debuted). Retired too early, she was ranked No.3 at time of retirement.
The GOAT ! Of that there is no question.
She retired on her own terms while she was still near the top of her game.
Feel so sad to see Seles' ranking dropped right after being stabbed. She could be number one for much longer than that.
Definitely
Yes, just imagine how her career would have gone had that stabbing not occurred 😔
Wtf? She was stabbed??? Im gonna have to google this
Oh yes Monica owned everyone on all surfaces except grass. Very very sad what happened to her. Funny enough they I think tried to get her from stopping her shrieking when she made a shot. But the stabbing was too traumatic she never really recovered.
the girl that invented orgams on court... uhhh eeeh uuuh eeeh uukkk oink oink... unfairest player of all times.
10:51 Simona Halep
Good times with the battles between the William sisters and Henin & Clijsters, with Davenport, Capriati and Sharapova in the mix, that was the golden age of women's tennis. And Seles ❤❤❤
Maybe your golden age
the best was monica seles, serena williams no comment.
Sharapova took meldonium and she grunts
@@JB-xw6bz Is there a better time period for women's competition? Serena is arguably the best women's tennis player and only the ones named above could give her a run for her money in her prime. Graf is among the greats, but her only real competition was Seles, who pretty much dominated her until the accident.
biff tannen Actually Graf still had a better h2h against Seles until the knife attack.
Seles played for Yugoslavia
Thanks for pointing out. It will be fixed in the next update.
@@joaquingonzalo1945 Wikipedia... Monica Seles (/ˈsɛləs/; Hungarian: Szeles Mónika, pronounced [ˈsɛlɛʃ ˈmoːnikɒ]; Serbian: Моника Селеш, Monika Seleš; born December 2, 1973) is a retired professional tennis player, who represented Yugoslavia and the United States and is also a member of the International Tennis Hall of Fame. An ethnic Hungarian, she was born and raised in Novi Sad, Yugoslavia. She became a naturalized American citizen in 1994 and also received Hungarian citizenship in June 2007.[1][2] A former world no. 1, she won nine Grand Slam singles titles, eight of them as a teenager while representing Yugoslavia, and the final one while representing the United States.
I remember she won her 1st world junior championships at d age of 13!💪
She played for Yugoslavia AND later frim 1994 for the USA.
monica seles was the best.
Wow - I did not know Halep did not quit the top 10 since 2014 !!!! That’s 5 years now !!!! Not her Nbr 1 fan but she’s one of the most consistent players for the past 5 years ... interesting video , thanks for sharing
Greetings from Romania my dude!
This is fantastic to visually see how players moved up and down the ranking through the years!!! Great job!!!!!
Interesting Venus finally climbed on top for Serena just to take it from her! They became no.1 and 2 a decade after they did it the first time!
Monica Seles forever number 1. What happened to her is unconscionable. She had 8 grand slams at 19 years old and had her whole 20s ahead of her. It's scary to think how many she would have amassed had she not been so brutally interrupted. At 19, Serena only had 1 grand slam. Still, Seles had the most amazing game I've ever seen. Serena has the power and serve. Seles had the devastating return game. I am so bitter Serena didn't get to play the original Monica. I can only imagine the points. 😍😍😍😍
nope... seles played the best, serena just rivaled it
www.stevegtennis.com/head-to-head/women/Serena_Williams/Monica_Seles/
@@mahasajan That was long after the stabbing
@@MrRazorblade999 nope... records say it all
@@mahasajan Again, it was AFTER the tragedy. Can you read at all?!
@C o NO, Serena was born in 1981.
When Monica was number 1 in the world, Serena was only 10, 11, and 12 years old.
Serena beat Monica after the stabbing incident when Monica obviously was not the same player.
Monica was incredible before that horrible tragedy. Her groundstrokes and mental toughness were unmatched .
Aga Radwanska 🇵🇱 was consistently top 10 and so close to number 1 😢. She retired too soon 😔
Is she retired?
@@bogdanescu86 yess
She retired? no wonder I haven't seen her on TV lately! oh well
Great court instincts. Didn't quite have the power to win a major.
Bogdan Dumitrescu yes she retired and now she is pregnant.
Great Video. Thanks for this!
Monika Seleš, Yugoslavia no SAD
Dok nije postala Amerikanka
Thanks for pointing out. It will be fixed in the next update.
@@randomstats3020 Thank you RandomStats for your work! Great!
Monika seles is from romania
@@davidog3453 Romania? Cool! I didn't know she's a gypsy.
3:47 OMG Hingis destroying everybody
And she was 16 years old lol
Seles ranking varies a lot after the stabbing but she managed to be in the top 10 steady from 1995 thru 2003! The years of Hingis&Davenport & Williams Sisters. Admired her tenacity so much!!! Definitely her absence in 1994 benefit Sanchez Vicario & Conchita Martinez and many others(nobody expected Conchita win Wimbledon 94)Miss Monica so much... the aggressive and precise game of Monica Seles! uuuhhhh heeeeee!!! lol love MS!!!!
Seles could've challenged Graf as GOAT, but we'll never know for sure. She came back, but I don't think she was 100%. Maybe 98%, but even that small dip kept her from being one of the all-time greats.
Graf was the most benefited with Seles absence. Anyway Graf is far from being the GOAT, her record of more weeks in number one (not anymore) was, in many ways, circumstantial.
@@cutechilean Everytime saw Sanchez Vicario in the final is like "wow she is so consistent to beat everybody" and lost with Graf at the final (except USO94) and her record with Seles before the stabbing 1-9. Besides Graf,Sanchez Vicario benefits a lot from Seles absence. Like when you say "in many ways, circumstancial" love it bro
I remember she won her 1stworld junior championships at d age of 13!💪💪 sadly that she's too powerful for Steffi Graf's fan to handle🙂☺
Graf should really thank Monica's stabber. The stabbing made Graf #1 again. Poor Seles was badly hurt, both physically and psychologically. Seles was never the same player afterwards.
Poor Monica Seles. The most talented woman tennis player along with Navratilova. So sad for her horrible incident
That Graf lady is something 🔥
Kingz_xxi just played against shit for a long time
@@bencb3 Per ELO and other stats that adjust for quality of opponent she played against tougher opponents than Serena Williams, so try again
anderson Screw idiots like that. That's like saying Serena only won so much because she was bigger and stronger than everyone else. Too bad all the greats didn't play in the same era. Can you imagine Serena. Martina, Chrissy, Billy Jean, Margaret Court, Venus etc, etc competing year after year, head to head!!!! In ä Word, WOW
@@Trepur349 She did but at the end of their career and while they were much older. Seles who was the serious competition and potential winner had to drop. So no real competition for Graf. Serena had tough competition she was just so far ahead she made everyone else look weaker. lol
@@nikosgr9290 Serena had tough competition at the beginning of her career, Cljisters, Henin etc.
But they were all retired by 2008. The rest of Serena's career, where she won 2/3rds of her slams, she had no competition, Kerber, Wozniaki and Halep being 2nd through 4th best players of the last decade. All laughably worse than Everet, Martina, Seles, Sabatini, Davenport etc.
Miss Graf: 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997 Those are the years in which she was ranked #1.
Titles:
1986 - 8
1987 - 11
1988 - 11
1989 - 14
1990 - 10
1991 - 7
1992 - 8
1993 - 10
1994 - 7
1995 - 9
1996 - 7
1997 - 1
1998 - 3
1999 - 1
During Seles' reign Graf won:
1991: San Antonio, Hamburg, Berlin, Wimbledon, Leipzig, Zurich, Brighton
1992: Boca Raton, Hamburg, Berlin. Wimbledon, Leipzig, Zurich, Brighton, Philadelphia
1993: Hilton Head
Seles:
1989 - 1
1990 - 9
1991 - 10
1992 - 10
1993 - 2
1994 - did not play
1995 - 1
1996 - 5
1997 - 3
1998 - 2
1999 - 1
2000 - 3
2001 - 4
2002 - 2
2003 - 0
Loving that historic moment when Ana and Jelena were no1 and no2 at the same time
More Serbian again!
Simona Halep 💙💛❤️
Cold player, in important moments disappears completely.
@@jelenaostapenko2218 gtfoh,dumbass kid
@@jelenaostapenko2218 ?
E varza Halep,tu-i dumnezaii ei.
Who is Halep?
9:02 sharapova: “hi everybody”
9:03 sharapova: “bye bye”
😂😂😂😂😂
Graf, what a player! Remember those games in the 80's. 👏
Graf didn't have the type of competition Serena had. Monica Seles' stabbing truly changed the course of history.
She had no competition, because she mastered a shot no woman can play that well. The backhand slice is an underrated and underused shot, especially in women's tennis today. Everyone is just playing brainless power tennis. If the girls would use their brain and play low slice shots against Serena, Serena would have tough time lifting the ball over the net with her 175 pounds.
@@lgeiger Tennis is way more athletic than it was in Graf's time. That slicing backhand wouldn't stand a chance even against a mediocre player today.
tjrtt not true. The slice - at least the way Steffi hit it - would be incredibly effective today. All the women today hit the same ball, hard and flat. That’s why Serena has prospered. Take the ball out of her zone and make her actually time it and add controlled pace, and she won’t be so effective. (Remember her loss in the US Open semis a couple years ago.). The other women would be even more pressed playing against that knifing slice.
Her slice was amazing and she has one of the best forehands ever. That's some good variety.
But anyone saying Steffi didn't have the competition that Serena had are absolutely false. Serena's toughest rival during her career has been her own sister. Have you seen some of the players Steffi beat to win Slams?
Also Steffi retired at a pretty low age because of injury but also she was the best ever, so why wouldn't she. She had no real motivation anymore.
Serena on the other hand won most her Slams after the age of 30 that's when Steffi already retired and there's no competition when Serena reached her 30's.
Steffi faced players that were way more consistent. Steffi constantly met the same players in the final of Slams or even earlier. And we can't forget that Seles could have been the GOAT or at least make it similar to Navratilova vs Evert. Steffi vs Seles would be an all time rivalry. Serena has never faced a player at the level of Seles so while it is sad that she got stabbed that would only make Steffi have a truly truly tough career with playing a top 5 of all time player throughout her career, Serena hasn't had that. Serena faced some strong players but not consistently.
Lindsay Davenport was asked in an interview after her retirement who was the toughest player she had competed against (taking into account she played in the Graf, Williams sisters, caparati, Henin era) she replied by saying Steffi Graf that her slice was never given the credit it should have had.
Petra was so close to being number 1 early 2012 and again this year 😭
Was also surprised that she never been number 1,l thought she was when she won those Wimbledon titles.
Steffi GOAT of the wta🙌🏻
Lol. No
@@reinebautistamercado4286 Lol. Yes.
@@dagda3000 amen!
@@techexpress01 No.lol
@O 285 Thanks to her own strengths.
Love Justine Henin and Kim Clijsters. Thanx for all those beautiful years...
Seles raced up those rankings and took the top spot so quickly!
The saddest part here is Monica Seles stabbing.. Steffi Graf pre 1990 achievements are great but her post 93 stabbing achievements are totally questionable.. 6-7 out of 11 GS she won after Seles stabbing is undeserving, so do is her no 1 status at that period.. history was cheated.. Seles was truly gone ( she was never the Seles after comeback) ,
Agreed...but seles took over graf.for a couple of weeks in 1996..
@Illya Kuryakin look at this video...seles took over for a couple if weeks..lol...graf did not deserve her slams after the stabbing...believe what u believe but seles owned her before the stabbing...
@Illya Kuryakin blimey Ur here as well . what a psychopath says dsnt matter we r fans of true tennis and we all know what the truth is. Other than the Wimbledons all the other post 93Ao grandslams of Graf are extra gifts. Whole world knows that and your thorough UA-cam campaign can't change that..
@Illya Kuryakin your blackmail scandal story didn't work either. And everyone knows Seles won 7 of 9 and how many graf won and suddenly after Seles gone she won 5 of 5 . But it seems Ur shameless and dsnt possess a normal mind so even after so much bashing u got all over UA-cam ,it didn't make u realise that Ur wrong. So u know the jihadis they are such brainwashed their thought can't be changed with truth.. I leave it at that..if it were someone sensible I would continue the points..but no point talking to you
@@bozzanovva1596 this Illya is a psychiatric patient . Don't argue you will waste your time. We all know the truth. Graf would get max 11+4 GS without Hamburg stabbing.. whole world knows that
Dementieva, the best player without a grand slam.
So unfair that she competed in an era that had so many competitive players.
Jankovic & Ivanovic & Dokic ❤
Crazy Girl Seleš (Born in Novi Sad)
Djokovic
Graff is undoubtedly the greatest female tennis player of all times! None can rival her technique, foot work, consistency, power, grace, humility and sportmanship. She retired at 30 in her prime. If she had played a few more years, no one would ever beat her GS records.
For me it's Billie Jean King the greatest female tennis player of all time
For me Steffi won only one doubles grandslam, if you're going to decide on greatest ever then it would be 1 Martina N, 2 Margaret, 3 Serena, 4 Steffi, 5 Billie Jean, 6 Martina H . If choosing the best you must consider all their accomplishments, not just in singles. I did however put her at 4! Maybe if you had to decide singles player only it would be a tie between Steffi and Serena!
@@ronnieconner5908 to me doubles are completely irrelevant. Dont even watch them 🤷♀️ so I dont take them into consideration when ranking best players.
@@PozoBlue everyone is not you! To me Martina Navratilova was the best ever. I watch both singles and doubles. I respect your decision but feel all players accomplishments are important and everyone is entitled to their opinion! 🤓 oh, and have a nice day! 🤓
Great visual of Graf’s record for most weeks at number one than any other female tennis player during this time
the 1996 numbers are wrong, seles never took over number 1 from graf. she was co ranked number 1 with her points actually being lower than graf's
Who cares? Seles did take over number 1 from Graf before the stabbing and would have 8 of Graf's Grand Slams had she not been attacked. The fact is Graf's career would never had been what it is had her fan not taken out Seles with a knife
I don't debate with people that use insults when someone disagrees. So fuck off.
@@adammendez9297 coulda woulda shoulda. the numbers are what they are and that is what people care about
@@tellmeto Stop lying! You know, she wouldn't get so many slam titles, when Monica were not around!
@@starside7 how am i lying when i am saying numbers say the truth, not coulda woulda shoulda? go study logic.
I remember vividly when Monica Seles came in with her famous grunt and two-handed forehand-backhand combo and literally changed the game forever. The stabbing incident is the only reason why she didn't reach #1 on this list. No shade to the other ladies but Monica was simply legendary and freak of nature talent-wise.
I hated the grunting. I always rooted against Seles (and Sharapova, and Serena) because I consider it to be unsportsmanlike. It is impossible to know, but I think it highly likely that if Seles had not been stabbed Serena would be #1 on this list because Seles and Graf--both of whom are better than Serena, in my opinion--would have split many titles and weeks at number one.
5:57 both Belgians on the top
7:38 and Serbians
Great video! looking forward to your ranking on table tennis!
The race between Kim and Justine in their early years was amazing.
The hate in the comments on Graf just because she's German. If she was an American we would definitely see different comments.
steffi graf= queen=respect=class
@O 285 She didn´t hurt anybody, right?! Neither with knife nor with anything else.
@O 285 Seems Parche is not the only crazy one.
Venus Williams up there since 1999...
Steffi Graf is the greatest female tennis player of all time. Her stats are better than Serena's in every category. The only reason people think Serena is better is because she's won one more slam than Graf (23-22). BUT people don't take into account Serena entered many more slams than Graf did and has played much longer. Actually Graf's enter to win ratio in slams is far better than Serena. Add to that Graf actually won the calendar golden slam and dominated her era like no other player. Serena has had to many highs and lows. Go take a critical look at the stats. Graf is greatest of all time.
One more thing this SPECULATION Graf wouldn't have been as successful because of the Monica Seles stabbing is pure bull shit. Graf played who was in front of her. Graf retired on top and had she stayed in the sport may have won 30 slams.
Well said Timothy. Statistically speaking Steffi's stats are far more impressive than Serena's. One of the ways I rank the greatest playersi is by comparing their best seasons. Steffi has had 5 seasons where she won 3 or more grand slams, 3 times where she won every match. Her 1988/89/93/95/96 seasons all rank in my top ten of all time. Only one of Serena's - 2002
@@reynardtg Serena has the greatest serve of all time and maybe the best return of serve. Steffi had a great serve too and the superior forehand. Steffi was the best mover in tennis history. Her sliced back hand was natural and she volleyed better than Serena who is a mediocre volleyer. I prefer the fluid gazelle style of Graf to the power thuggery of Serena and and the modern game.
@@timothyhudson9976 Agree with you. Was watching clips here from the Australian Open 1994 last week. Arguably Steffi at the peak of her powers, everything working, but her movement was phenomenal. One other thing that separated Steffi was her pursuit of perfection on the court rather than records, unlike Serena and Martina who nailed their colours to achieving status in the game as the best ever. When Steffi won her q/f against MJ Fernandez Wimbledon 95, for example, she was elated because she knew she had played near perfect tennis.
Does anyone know the reason at 3:31 to 3:33 when Conchita Martínez surpasses Jana Novotná and Martina Hingis becoming world No.4 by the end of 1996? There should be no tournament at that time for such drastic change in ranking.
10:47 I know it is hard to distinguish them since they are twins. But I think you put picture of Kristýna Plíšková instead of Karolína! You must have made Kristýna pretty amused though if she sees this.. :D
Fantastic video. Congrats.
Came here just for the legend: Clijsters
Wonderful video; it showed us by numbers the performance of the big players. I always knew that Serena is great, but never imagined that she was that great. She ranks right after Graf and Navratilova, and she is still playing. Wow, what an achievement, dear Serena. I wish you continue to play and get back to RANK NUMBER ONE, which you deserve. I believe this video will silence all the Serena haters who are prejudiced and are jealous of her outstanding abilities.
Thats krystina pliskova in the picture not karolina
how can you tell? lmao
@@charlie172011 cause she's holding racket in her left arm and Kristyna is lefty. And their noses are slightly different.
Best moments:
3:29, 3:39, 4:19, 4:29, 4:45, 6:57 (for Hingis' comeback after years without playing + Schnyder almost at her best), 10:30, 10:40, 10:44, 10:51, 10:56.
Návrátilová is more Czech than American
Tomáš Kouba then why did she play for usa? Im confused
@@Boomboxboi She escaped from communism
and more man than woman
jo no
Spirlea 💛 Simona HALEP 💛
sara lincoln 😂
Pre stabbed Seles and Althea Gibson are the two best players ever. Both had circumstances which gave them a short time at the top.
@Jose Cardenas Good point. Wimbledon springs to mind as I think it was all over in under an hour and it stopped Seles completing the calendar grand slam as I think she won the other 3 but I would have to check but yes you are right that was a close match and even clay was not her best surface she still won 5 or 6 French Open titles which is pretty amazing
Serena and Venus has played through some of the toughest eras in tennis, and they both are still playing top notch tennis today, especially for their age. Incredible
Havent won a slam in how long?
@@joehalliday6081 And how many players have never won a slam let alone 23? What kind of asinine comment is this?
@@RichTake you’re speaking of yourself when you say asinine comment?
Thanks a lot for the video. Tennis is fun. ❤️
Sharapova well done 👍🏻
Steffi shes the number1and Matina is number2 Chris number3 Kim and Anna Adine number4 Sareena and Maria Sharapova number5...Bingo
6:13 María Sharapova.... ❤️
Lol
She seems to be a likable person, but there used to be some controversy around her
What software is used to make these 'ranking history' videos? I've seen so many of these charts and I'd like to make one myself but I have no idea how.
Gaby Sabatini was a top 10 for almost 10 years. In 1991 was only 15 point to numer one. If only she had won Wimbledon in 1991!
Amazing video !!
Monica Seles so amazing !! love to you Monica 💙
You sparked my interest for women tennis
the girl that invented orgams on court... uhhh eeeh uuuh eeeh uukkk oink oink... unfairest player of all times.
Serena 2014-2016 i loved watching her work
Simona is the Best! :)))
#3 was the highest position for a female Argentine tennis player. Grande, Gaby!
Monika Seleš was Serbian untill 94 and forced to take American citizenship becauce so she can compete during the international sanctions to Serbia. Also Jelena Dokić is Serbian not Australian. To many faults on purpouse or not big dislike from me. Many mistakes in football ranks also I've noticed.
Danilo Ninkovic jelena Dokic played under Australian citizenship at the time she was top ten in the world. She changed to Serbia after then back to Australian
WRONG, she was Yugoslavian untill 1994
At the end of the day, who gives a shit. It’s about tennis not nationality
Dokic started her career playing for Australia, switched to Yugoslavia at the beginning of 2001, and switched back to Australia at the end of 2005. So yes, her peak rankings were achieved while she was playing for Yugoslavia.
(I'm Australian ftr)
She details the reasons for her changes of allegiance in her autobiography.
@@samprase1268 Right and Serbia back then was part of Indonesia not Yugoslavia.
It is the wrong Pliskova, in the picture it is Kristyna (and Karolina was the number one!)
1 graf 2,s wiliams 3 navratilova 4 higins 5 seles. 6 clijsters .7 v viliams 8 a muresmo 9 ivanovič 10 s halep
how can you tell? lmao
It’s obviously Kristyna
Martina H. being n°1 for 209 weeks within such a short career shows how brilliant she was.
So proud we had 3 times number one in female tennis: Seles, Ivanovic and Jankovic. Novak is our treasure in male tennis. Waiting for Olga Danilovic to take the world top in max 5 years! 🇷🇸
2:18 Monica got stabbed in the back in the middle of a tennis match, that’s why she lost her rank. She also played for Yugoslavia back then
Celui qui a réalisé l' évolution de l' historique du classement des 10 meilleurs joueuses du monde est un génie. Merci à lui.
D'accord avc toi
graf, graf, graf, graf.....377 weeks number one. i' m not sure someone can surpass this record
Seles play under Yugoslavian flag till stabbing (first 8 Grand Slam titles), the same thing for Jelena Dokic, she wasn't playing under the Australian flag.
Nobody talking about two sisters being on top of the rankings?wtf that’s amazing... 5:30
serena ..legend
Because nobody cares....
@@OriginalSilke sure you're the prettiest ..
@@Xajane02 : Definitely not, but at least I am not pumped up with steroids and I don't look like a sibling of Mike Tyson.
there's just one female number one of tennis for me and that woman is *Monica seles*
I agree. 8 grand slams as a teenager and countless on the way had it not been for that psycho.
I can’t agree. I think she was a cheat. That bullshit fucking screaming that she did and hoes like Sharapova do is ridiculous. Same with Nadal and Djokovic, it’s an advantage to cover the balls noise through the air and a disadvantage to their playing partner. Should be banned, you don’t need to do it. Don’t hear boxers or mma fighters carrying on like that
@@dmkappa62 Hahaha this is the most stupid comment I've ever heard.
Danilo Ninkovic ooh I new a Serb would comment when I mentioned Djokovic, haha. But if you think that comment is stupid Federer actually said it. But saying Federer to an arrogant Serb would only induce more negative comments. Federer is and always will be the GOAT. Also two handed backhands should be banned
@@dmkappa62 Now I see as I asumed you are classic fedtard like your arogant crying idol. And I'm Croat not Serbian.
🇦🇷 S A B A T I N I 🇦🇷
Si buen logro de Sabattini, aunque es mejor el de Anita Lizama de 🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱 q fue número 1
Did the song/music used for the third one get changed from Skylike?
Yes and I hate it
@@thegymteen Me too! The song went so well with the image of the rankings and changes.
Nice video Serena Williams is the goat of women tennis.
@ yep she is
In your dreams
justine henin will always be my favorite as tennis skills is corcerned it was a pleasure to watch especially that beautiful backhand
it was a joy to watch her perfect technique and amazing foot work, Henin also my favorite all times
Haleeeeeep!!!
🇹🇩🇹🇩🇹🇩🇹🇩🇹🇩🇹🇩
From Romania!
I hope you would make more videos like this one that shows the achievements of the big players in order people would get their information straight.
I'm proud of Halep because she won her first Wimbledon championship a few days ago
Jelena Jankovic queen, the best backhand ever. Sharapova queen number 2.
Sharapova ❤️❤️❤️
Sharapova & Myskina & Kuznetsova & Dementieva & Safina & Zvonareva & Petrova & Chakvetadze 🇷🇺♥️
Since 1975, only 28 women have been ranked No. 1 in singles. Of these, only 8, all legends of the game, had runs of 52 consecutive weeks or more at the top: Graf(3x), Serena, Navratilova, Evert, Seles & Hingis (2x), and Henin & Barty(once). By April next year, Swiatek will more than likely join this distinguished group when she records her 52nd consecutive week as No. 1.
Superiga!
Never realised Date-Krumm was in the top 10 for that long...incredible
Who?
Wasn't #1, but was the Queen! Gaby Sabatini😍😍😍😍
Kournikova ?
Lo de Sabattini muy discutible
Steffi stopped to play at the age of 30,
it took Serena 6 years longer to equal her record.
Serena played in a lot more GS. If Steffi played in that many GS, she'd have more titles. Also, every other category Graf is ahead of Serena. Those that say Serena is unquestionably the GOAT need to actually look at the stats. You CAN make the argument for Serena, but it's no slam dunk. And don't forget Navritolova and Evert, with massive numbers of single titles under their belts (double that of Serena).
@@Paulafan5 I rest my case.
Paulafan5 lol ahead in every category.
Serena has 23 single grandslams > Steffi 22
Serena has 14 double grandslams > Steffi 1
Serena has 2 mixed grandslams > Steffi 0.
Serena has 4 olympic gold medals > Steffi 0
When you’re closer to 40 and still beating kids that are not even 20 or early 20’s come back and make this argument!
It’s much harder to accomplish what Serena has accomplished or is currently than what Steffi did...
@@dblog huh? what kind of fan statement is this? as if you would know that...
Why didn't you put the first names of the two younger Maleeva sisters (Кaterina and Magdalena), how should one know which one is which? Also the third Maleeva sister (Manuela) weren't called Maleeva-Fragniere and weren't competing for Switzerand before 1990
La argentina 🇦🇷 Gabriela Sabatini, la unica latina en el top ten en los últimos 30 años, leyenda
Pero no llego al 1.
@@senorx9175 y alguna otra latina llegó al top ten en estos 30 años almenos? No sabes leer lo que escribió el tipo?
Y Anita Lizama de 🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱 la única de Latam, en ser NÚMERO 1 de la HISTORIA 🇨🇱💪✌️😎🎾
@@avh8200 nunca falta el chileno acomplejado....
@@___kamal0902 aaajjjjaaaa eso es imposible, habiendo tenido Chile un número 1 en Tenis , tanto en hombres como en mujeres y teniendo a una Chilena 11 del mundo en la actualidad 🤣🤣🤣🇨🇱😎💪
1:00 It should be noted that Chris Evert quit the tour after the 1989 US Open, where she was seeded 4th. Explains her sudden drop-off afterwards.
My family are great fans of Monica Seles. We are Indonesians.
the girl that invented orgams on court... uhhh eeeh uuuh eeeh uukkk oink oink... unfairest player of all times.
@@barfuss2007 it is very impolite.if she wasnt stabbed.she could won more then 15 gs
@@@markovitorovic3257
she was stabbed but she also killed tennis
@@barfuss2007 what are u talking about? When she was playing Graf cannot win nothing. She is true legend. Not Graf - half man half woman.
@@@Андрей-ш7в5д
Monika played unfair thats all. Her "noises"
prevented form hearing if its slize or top spin. She only won with this unfair trick. And Steffi Graf won in spite of Monikas unfairness a lot of matches against her.
Steffi Graf had a much better trained body a Monika. Because of that Monika needed these unfair behaviour to win.
That was very cool.
Steffi Graf...the best and greatest ever to grace the court 🤩🤗
JaySkillz. You really can't say that as Seles was the top player until a German assassin stabbed her in the back whilst she was playing Graf.
@@aesop8694 True but that's not to say Steffi still wouldn't have been as great. We'll never know the greatness of their rivalry because of an asshole.
Yeah she is the GOAT.
What achieved Monica Seles between 1989 and 1993 is amazing.
When she came back to the competition after 28 months she was hitting the ball with more power, but her lack of movement due to her binge eating problems never let her to be a serious contender in Grand Slams tournaments.
Binge eating disorders caused by the huge injustice she suffered in 1993 and the premature death of her beloved father and also coach who had started fighting against a cancer even before Monica courageous come back.
I will never forget the miserable indifference with which Mrs Graf was winning Grand Slams tournaments during Monica’s absence.
Despite that deranged man stabbed Monica with the declared intention of letting Graf to dominate again Frau forehand had never mentioned Monica during her speeches at the Grand Slams final ceremonies, except for the 1993 US Open edition when they made her a direct question about Monica, otherwise she wouldn’t had spent a single world about her greatest rival.
Only Gabriela Sabatini and Helena Sukova contacted Monica for expressing her true human and professional support.
Hopefully Monica showed her best human qualities after her retirement from professional tennis after 2003 and for me she will always be the best.
Simona Halep🇷🇴🇷🇴🇷🇴❤️
90 - 05 was pretty entertaining to watch. Too many ladies to name and they were all fierce. Great competition.
Monica Seles is Yugoslavian!
Jennifer and Monica don’t get enough credit for what they brought to the game especially at such a young age.
I never realized as a german that Steffi Graf was THAT dominating... Holy Cow!
GOAT for a reason
With the support from a disgusting crazy fan! Anything is possible!
I mean we'll never know how good Seles would have been if she wasn't stabbed.
Maybe Seles would be considered the GOAT today if she wasn't stabbed. Maybe she would have still come up slightly short of the almost impossibly good run Graf had between 1987 and 1991.
It's impossible to say.
Important to note that the peak of Graf's career happened years before the stabbing. Take away half of Graf's titles 1993 on, and I think Graf is still arguably the GOAT simply because of how good she was in the late 80s
@@starside7 It was a cruel and disgusting act, but still... Even at Seles BEST.
Graf was better in my opinion, they played a lot against each other and Steffi won most of the matches...
@sara lincoln I know that, but that makes no difference. That was sad and horrible. I saw that on TV. But still, i was young and did not realize how good she was 😊 Why i has to defend my opinion against this fan, because i am german too? Do you think i sat at home and cheered after that? Seems like it, because you have to write it in BIG letters, shame on you... It's my opinion and it's backed up with statistcs, nobody knows how it would be if this has not happened