How SpaceX Will Build One Starship Every 24 Hours!
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- How SpaceX Will Build One Starship Every 24 Hours!
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It would be amazing if those goals were met. I'd love to see them become so cheap and plentiful that it would be viable for humanity to just fill some rockets full of scientific instruments and remotely send them all throughout our the solar system. Having permanent large bases/satellites parked in orbit around moons and planets mapping and gathering data would be great!
Now that's the EXACT IDEA what I was having, also by launching from the Moon.
LOL.. and who the hell would pay for all those scientific projects, even if the launch vehicles were free ???
@@KrustyKlown have you ever heard of a place called NASA? Or maybe even the European Space Agency? Heck, Musk might even just do it himself and charge research institutes subscription fees for his data.
@@KrustyKlown Now, I'm not a Musk fan, by a long shot. Even a Mars colony is a bit too far-off for this decade (let alone for human mentality).
I'm just thinking of an idea that if the Starship is also possible to carry cargo or be built on the Moon, it can really send science probes or satellites without much of a fuss. For example maybe universities send 3D models and material blueprints needed and it can be produced by some lunar bases, and launch along with 10 other probes to somewhere like Neptune, the fail risks would also be smaller. My comment may not be completely truthful, but it does have some fair points.
@@noorspetsialist5547 Starship for carrying cargo or science projects to other Moons/Planets seems like it may prove cost effective.. even with Earth orbit refueling. But we will still be faced with the current limitations of funding those projects.
As for Mars .. unless someone can come up with a profitable business plan for building a Mars colony (it will cost $ Trillions even with free transportation).. that ain't never going to happen,. but It's fun to talk about.
A Starship a day does not mean you build a starship in one day you can build a starship in a month and still have a Starship a day if you have 30 starships in the pipeline at the same time.
Serial fabrication may succeed with daily output with the correct parallel pipelining in serial fashion and methods which do not require more than a combined 24 hours of processing and disruption queues.
3D printing is good for parallel production and has good serial integration. Yet, Roll to Roll is king, possibly, for cold weld hull production.
Exactly although I likely won't see it in my life time lol Sure would be a heck of a space fleet.
That’s true, but it was never implied otherwise. No one mentions building a starship IN a day. 🤷♂️
Wow, thanks for the insight ... that is how production works >_
@@countmorbid3187 , you’re welcome 🤣 .
I'm sure that Henry Ford was ridiculed for attempting to mass produce the Model T
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Thanks for the high quality productions.
If this does happen, that would be 365 rockets built per year. Thats a lot of rockets being put into use! 😲
I doubt we’ll ever see this. A Starship per day would require six engines per day. SpaceX isn’t planning that rate for many years. By the time that’s possible, chances are they’ll have moved on to the “next big thing,” and Starship as we now know it will be a relic. I DO think they could make five Starship hulls a week within three years or so, but what would the point be if they can only make six engines a week? 🤷♂️
He needs a bigger starship graveyard ...
I hope they have lots of methane and metal
That is alot of rockets
Another "fly-in-the-ointment" is the fuel required to met those Starship goals. That's a LOT of liquid methane and oxygen!! 🚀
It's just a matter of ramping up production of both over time and it will be many years like at least a decade before could realize such a high production rate.
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 oh ya, just 'ramp it up' 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And here I thought building a single raptor engine per day was a rough goal
It is! Building a rocket engine is harder than building the damn rocket it self
@@its_nihar Yes rocket engine pushes the limits of engineering
*insert "Is not rocket science" line here*
They’re already doing it. Once the design is validated, SpaceX should be able to get production up to 20 engines/day within 4 or 5 years. I don’t see any problems with producing one every 2 days (180 per year) once they’ve got that going.
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A big oven might be good for applying the heat shielding on the current Starship there are some very tuff thermal coatings that are used on piston crowns and other industrial applications made by companies like Swain Tech Coatings. If a way could be found to apply that type of heat shielding directly to the ship like a skin. Or to something that could be attached to the ship like a shell that might work better than fish scale tiles.
The fish scale tiles were chosen because of the ease of application and replacement - and the 304X Stainless has a higher heat tolerance then most steels do,which makes reentry even more survivable.
@@TraditionalAnglican Also because the tiles expand when they heat up, if it was one big piece it would crack.
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Great video! I can only imagine the future of space exploration.
One a day. Amazing thought! Will we see it done? Who can say? There's a long road yet to implementation. But many of the required pieces of infrastructure are present, the know-how is largely learned, and there is motivation. Given the needed resources, it's a practical idea today - needing implementation mostly, rather than vast research and increased knowledge of the far-reaching unknown. If they need to get to that pace, we can be pretty well assured that it will be done.
During WW2 the Ford plant at Willow Run could produce a B24 4 engined bomber every 63 minutes. Never underestimate what modern production lines could achieve with enough funding and robots. Look out Putin !
I see where your coming from but thats just not the case, in ww2 alot of countries had significant spending into their military whereas, given that we are in peace time many countries dont even put 2% into defense spending, not to mention that modern production lines are only expected to make around 150 f-35s this year, ww2 planes never needed computer components like planes need today, and given seemingly frequent shortages of various computer components you're never going to make a starship each day, let alone a modern fifth generation aircraft, and lets not even consider that the 2 things are completely different in both scale and purpose.
Maybe completion of one airplane every 63 min.
But the completion of an airplane every 63 minutes is not the same as building one every 63 minutes.
(Just saying)
@@MrShaun1011 Musk was saying one starship off the production line every 24hrs
@@HorsleyLandy88 I never mentioned Musk in my comment 👀 I was not referring to Musk- thanks anyway - not sure what I might have done if you had never educated me.
Furthermore, if you Had understood 'MY' comment, -"off the production line" was exactly my point...(just saying)
@shaun swistak The whole thread is about Starship, you obviously don't understand.
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One thing that comes to mind when thinking about automation in building starship, is the automotive industry. Not only a robot production line to weld it all. The chioce of stainless is really fitting and smart here. Because other techniques of the automitive production lines will be applicable. One is stamping of parts into shape. So when the shape and construction is finalised, the can make forms to shape the steel into parts for the nose cone, internal elements, and other parts. The sheet goes in and the machine spits out parts ready to be welded up. Very much how the parts for the body of a car are prodcuced. That alone, while initially expensive in setup, can incease productivity to a ridiculus degree. Actually, due to the way it´s constructed, starship will be able to make use of a lot of the production strategies refined for decades by the car industry. I expect SpaceX to, once development has mostly finished, start setting up a network of suppliers for everything that won´t be needed to be produced in house and multiple factories dedicated for certain specific parts that cannot be outsourced like the heatshield, egnines and body of the rocket. If they truly want to push down the price, they will need to make use of the economy of scale at every step.
Damn dude u really put ur time on this comment
@@brandondineo2335 I literally wrote that in less than 10 minutes.😆
Can you do a video of all the start-up launch companies and what they are up to?
Great job.
Ive thought about this topic often ! once you work out the defects then you can start standardizing the parts ! I say its highly plausible !
I'm just curious...why doesn't SpaceX produce one sheet of stainless steel metal onsite that's the length of the entire rocket (up to the nose cone section) and weld that one piece together vs. doing all the rings? I'm guessing they don't want to build the manufacturing capabilities to produce a stainless steel sheet of that size?
im thinking structural integrity, and stainless steel is not that strong at holding itself up. there's a video of a rocket which basically folded on itself, and I'm pretty sure it was made of stainless steel but I might be completely wrong
They like vertical integration, but there are limits to how efficient that is.
Or how about stainless steel the length of the booster, much thinner than Saran wrap and rolled onto a mandrel and cold welded to itself?
It comes from the steel mill on a roll, that's the cheapest way to make it with the same thickness.
Build a steel smelter at Boca Chica? Not happening in my lifetime.
Ive had dreams of seeing fleets of starships fly out of earth, i think its possible in our lifetime
Sounds like a waste of oil, I don’t want madman to waste my tax dollars in my lifetime.
In your dreams homie.
@@memezoffuckery3207natural gas methane, not oil.
@@etralin3dream983 not liquid o2?
@@leviellis9034 both liquid o2 and liquid methane
Something tells me they will redesign the shape of the starship, the final shape will be less conical.
The problem with production of huge spaceships like how you make cars is design changes takes some time to adapt. 3D printing however, like Relativity Space's Terran 1 would be quicker to adapt..
I'm aware that SpaceX has a goal of over 300 Starships a year (at a cost of 2.5 million each - which when compared to the nearly half a billion dollar cost for a 747 is astounding). Considering the flight to ... anywhere on Earth would be 17 minutes or less, that's a hell of a platform for private aerospace. I think the stacks they're producing in 2023 is more based on their current launch and test schedule. Once it's flightworthy, expect that to increase dramatically.
2.5m you have one raptor v2
A rocket is simple compared to an aircraft.
@@jebes909090 false
It’s 2.5 million per flight. Originally $2million per flight in 2017 but thanks to inflation 2.5m
@@TheAmericanCatholic surprisingly true actually. a rocket is simple.
the SLS has a nicely designed flame diverter where SpaceX wants to destroy its launch mounts all the time it tries to launch its Starship rocket.
Great as usual!
I think that is entirely possible
We must realize that the Texas Starbase is only a test facility and neither a production nor a launch site.
Thats in Florida on the East Coast and/or Vandenburg on the West Coast.
In the future, there may certainly be several such bases such as Tesla's Gigafactories scattered around the world, the same probably applies to Spaceex.
If Spacex plans to be able to fly to, say, around the world within an hour as they have said, several factories are needed.
So if in the future a booster lands again on the launch site or breaks, then the upper part of the starchip cannot be used (fly back) if it has flown to Europe or Asia. This means that there must already be a booster at these landing sites to be able to lift the Starchips again, so probably a future factory nearby as well.
Starship may out compete planes and create other product offerings with their production line up. The key is to produce enough to break even and sustain upgrade expenses. The right balance of labor, profit, and regulation, executed at speed above disruption is critical to success.
Not sure a booster is required for international flights?
Building factories in other countries is VERY complicated due to US National Security Technology Laws which applies to Rockets (but not cars).
Can't your security.
But if Tesla can have factories in both England and Germany (as well in China), Spacex should be able to have at least one factory in Europe, just as a backup at least.
Maybe not one that builds new rockets but a service station or a landing site, since they still have to be refueled for the return trip.
Yup, landing platforms could be anywhere, and would need to be worldwide, probably with easy transportation to an airport hub for regional connection flight... or high speed rail... or eventually Boring Tunnel 'express lanes'
Only the Rocket factories would be limited in where they can be built.
Awesome
Even on a week would be awesome!
In the early days of flight, air planes were basically hand made in barns. Who back then could have imagined the 1000s of jets we now have flying? And if you want to talk about production capacity, consider the bombers build per day in WW2.
I hope they start rolling Starships out like Model Ts, but the Space Shuttle had lofty goals too, and we know how that program turned out.
Like how the Teslas have ill-fitting panels, inexplicable rattling, and unpredictable "AI" that sometimes kills people?
@@user-gn1cl9ix7p That problem comes from people not paying attention, and assuming that the car will drive for them.
Sounds similar to a small number of semi trucks hauling a large number of cargo containers, one load at a time. Reasonable enough.
In WWII the UK had Churchill tanks that were 'coach built' sounds 'great' - but it was not at at all - what it meant was that the turret was built to marry up with a single tractor unit, as a unique pairing - great - until someting went wrong. The US had production lines, interoperaility - that left UK manufacturing sprawling in the dirt
I have t ask has that booster even flown yet? does the heatshield still fall off th pointy end every time someone sneezes? Just asking because these little videos seem to make a lot of assumptions.
I believe a tradeoff will be needed between thermal and shock resistance of the shields and the use of fluids to absorb the heat, similar to Stoke Aerospace's design. Since weight is crucial, I'm not sure if some kind of integrated air liquefaction scheme can be integrated at large enough scale and speed of distribution from the air encountered. I imagine where there is pressure, there is vacuum to be exploited to cool a portion of compressed air for use as coolant, passive design most likely.
Space X is preparing for the first of several test flights with starship. B7 S24 is looking to fly within a few weeks. B9 S25 will soon be up and testing for the next flight. Testing a new rocket means that things are expected to go wrong then Space X can make adjustments.
When things get rushed mistakes get made and overlooked ..
Look what just happened. The Musk cult is really stupid. Trump scum stupid.😅😅😅😅😅😅
You have to be willing to sacrifice every thing to go to space everything
I wonder what will happen when the sabre engine comes into play. If he could swap the raptors out for sabres that would be a massive upgrade.
i guess they plan to build a factory similar to ford factory,
mass production of parts... in the future maybe
Although technically possible they likely don't mean they ship will start and end production in the same day. Rather they will parallel production of enough that you end up with one and the end of production every day. i.e. One a day. There is no reason SLS couldn't do this as well. Or anything else really. This is just demand driven. How about a small cruse ship. Takes a year, Make 365 factory locations. Why don't they.... Well. Not enough demand is the only reason.
I think she means total build time.
@@kokofan50 Maybe. In manufacturing, Man hours or production rate are much more commonly used. Build time is just not that useful of a number. But I agree, she doesn't have a background in manufacturing so it's possible she faffed that up. Personally I have more confidence in her so I don't think so. But no proof.
To make a long story short, SLS has been using the "Phased Project Planning" approach, which is not geared towards the kind of mass production and Agile approach that SpaceX is using.
I think people are forgetting that Brazil is trying to lease out a huge facility that’s just 100 km south of the Equator.
Maybe brasil should focus on its massive poverty problem first 🤣
"Built by the lowest bidder." ~ Armageddon
The honest answer to the question is, "no" they can't and never will be able to produce 1 Starship every 24 hours.
8.35 wow!!! great cgi
Yes
Comparing this video to the actual events of the launch the other day, I think Gwen has the right idea.
Acuérdate de arreglar la refrigeración fría de la naves tiene que ser menos fría .por eso hubo una falla en la desconexion de starship con súper heavy
This is cool, but "fast food rockets" seem like they could be as hazardous to one's health as eating all your meals at McDonald's
Stick to the salads if you must.
Does anyone know if Starship is capable of achieving Mars when it's not at it's closest orbit to Earth? Could missions studying Mercury, Venus and the Sun get a Starship to Mars the long way or is the fuel for that too much? Obviously not ideal for human flights but deploying probes along the way during a cargo mission seems like a useful way to keep missions running even on the years Mars is farther away.
Even if they can only do 1 starship a day and 1Booster a week that’s more then enough to meet future demands!!!
After the last functional prototype they'll go to chain production with the first Starship viable model spacex could modify this and they'll think about other vehicles generation with new application.
Also they'll make and use new propulsions ever going to upgrade to stay in space.
I think they will improve starship to a point of it almost not being starship anymore, it will just be a ehole nother rocket launching to mars and further
I had a dream last night about a Starship Launch. In the dream, the launch was successful and everyone was cheering & losing their minds.
Keep dreaming loser. That's the only place Starship will ever succeed.😅😅😅😅😅
Starship is built different guys
Ahhhh that’s why it exploded !
I'm ready 🏗🗼
I can't wait for the day that starship is shined and polished to look like a mirror...example "The Bean" in downtown Chicago IL. That's what the real StarShip and booster will look like when their not prototypes.
Shotwell did a few years in the auto industry (Chrysler)... So once again, car manufacturing lends itself to other industries. There is no chance that there will ever be 365 ships made in a year (at one plant), and why would anyone need that many ships when most of them would be reusable. That many ships would require an industry that simply doesn't exist yet. Starship 1.0 is too small for any realistic Mars missions. The bigger 12 meter original Starship idea would be a better fit for that mission. Once they have their starlink fully deployed, it's not going to take thousands of ships to maintain it (sat replacement flights)... So your going to have a number of giant ships sitting around looking for work. Then there is the NASA nuclear rockets which would make inner solar system flights obsolete for chemical fueled Starship.. Unless SpaceX is allowed to work on nuclear versions of Starship.
I don't buy there is no chance of 365 ships made per year at one plant or that kind of demand is impossible.
For ship and booster fabrication, most likely, that kind of scale will require borrowing techniques used for fabricating MEMS devices, micro chips, and sized up to fit hull parameters. Most likely, if this route is taken, the tooling would be modular built. The vacuum and clean room processing would need a novel linkage design similar to how spacecraft dock to each other to allow for a scaled up roll to roll nanosheet cold weld process, air bearing separator sheet mandrel rolls, pick and place dissimilar gecko feet, laser cutting arms, and air bearing roller presses.
Some of the difficulties I see are separating air bearing pressure from cold welding vacuum, fabrication of nano film the length of a booster rocket and preservation techniques prior to production use, cutout and handling of segments for things such as vascular/nervous systems, windows, doors, joints, etc...
Post production repair techniques would need to be compatible with the integrity of the new design by requiring techniques similar to micro grafting of bone, vascular, nerve, optical, and other tissues.
Demand for the ships could be offset and support labor with recycle and repurpose integrated design for use in secondary markets such as storage, shelving, furniture making via repurposed building stock. Cut and gut methods need to be labor and small business friendly, competitive with utilization of existing resources. I believe shipping containers go through similar fabrications on mass scale as well and have secondary demand. Also, the fabrication methods need to be compatible with tooling of other items that integrate into the ship, tanks, silos, and land based applications of similar functions. Compressed Air Energy Systems (CAES), Bio reactors, Hyperloop sleeves, Refinery vessels, and anything else that could make use of the integrated vascular, sensing, and signalling network capabilities for safety, comfort, and fine tuned thermal regulation layers. The more sophistication integrated into the shell has potential to bringing down cost for integration of these and other features into other products and leads to incentive for modular tooling to fit specifically to application.
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your last question :- not likely, but if it does happens it will be at 2050 or 2075. after lunar stuff have been builded.
How do you control engineers burn out with all that on the job work time.
I think it’s possible Boeing even builds over 30 aircraft a month at Renton facility and they don’t even do it efficiently.
Fantazje ze latają w kosmos
That women, Shotwell is anything but practical.
Build a Raptor a day? Sure.
No, in a production line it would be straightforward to release one rocket per day. If I took a team 14 days to produce a rocket, with a production line consisting of 14 rockets working through the production process you could have one rocket completed at the end of the line, resulting in one per day.
Considering they rolled out a Liberator Bomber approx every hour during WW2 and that's with 1940s tech. With enough infrastructure they can do a rocket per day. Keeping in mind that each individual rocket may take a month or more to build. Is it do-able ... yes. Will they do it ? That's the bigger question since it has yet to achieve orbit.
"The whole point of star ship" is to be purpose built, for each mission
actually they have already brought in a lot of robots, much of the ship welding is done robotically now.
It would be possible, if building a raptor engine is just as easy as building a v4 engine motor
Spacex will cease to exist before this will ever be possible. Always with some outlandish goals that cant be met
Every other launcher manufacturer is building each rocket like a Rolls Royce limousine or a Ferrari sports car with a dedicated team of specialist engineers. This also applies to each of the major components including the engines. The RL25 engines on SLS, which each have the same thrust as a Raptor2, cost $25M per engine and can only be manufactured at the rate of two *per year*. The BE4 engine costs over $2M each and BO apparently can only build about a dozen per year for the proposed ULA Vulcan launcher and its own New Glenn. Raptor2 is produced on an assembly line by robots, just like a Tesla and supervised by the same sort of technicians used by Tesla. Each Raptor 2 costs about $250K, and that will come down. Each Raptor assembly line can produce almost four hundred engines per year, enough for sixty Starships a year. That is SpaceX can build as many new Starships in 2024 as the total Falcon 9 launch record for 2022. However 60 Starship launches will cost SpaceX *less* than 60 Falcon 9 launches even though Starship has five times the payload to LEO.
Is there even enough titanium or stainless steel to manufacture that amount
Problem isn't starships built, its launches. If you have 600 starships and 2 capable launch/catch sites its not going to matter.
I am also not afraid of self sacrifice
Relativity Space will probably print for SpaceX and SpaceX will share their knowledge to them on how to not explode a rocket.
Spacex will show them how to explode. Fixed it for you moron.😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Like I'm all for progress. But as of right now there are basically no payloads being launched above 10 tons. Is there really the demand for hundreds of starships?
Just imagine the parking lot.
I wonder why didn't they experiment with super heavy first? They are maybe too much in a hurry. The should now focus on testing and perfecting super heavy launch and landings
I think we'll see around say 10 launches a year maximum and maybe 30 ships for the first year, this would increase if other nations took up some of the launch opportunities for countries with an equatorial site potential.
North African nations maybe could offer this for the economic wealth it would bring. If I were Ghana or Mauritania I would seriously be thinking of offering Musk the rights to build a star city there. Saudi Arabia, Yemen and such nations have the right geography to offer to Starship Star Cities. Australia and New Zealand too have such opportunities for space cities.
After the last display …. Maybe they should take 48 hours
Elon would also be threatening all the manufacturing personnel that he would fire everyone unless they became "hard core!". I worked with a former Tesla engineer and this was a common practice.
10 rockets in 10 days is 1 rocket per day. Simple bit of parallel manufacturing.
There’re MORE technologies ie infrastructures needed than just going to Mars. Apollo has taught us a lesson. 🤷🏿👨🏿💻👨🏿💻👨🏿⚕️👨🏿⚕️🤔
Well... How many reusable Starships are needed before they are lying around doing nothing. Not to mention that level of cryogenic fuels production and how many launch pads you would need. Presumably even if your sending some of them on one way trips to Moon/Mars they would quickly outpace ability to launch them without vast increases in infrastructure and demand.
There's no such thing as a high school shop class.
The heat isn't the problem, Falcon 9 is mostly carbon composit, it's the cost.
... and the only commonly reusable portion of the F9 is the booster that never hits orbital velocity. Heat is what _incinerates_ the upper stage on reentry. The Crew Dragon capsule is also reusable, but it has a heck of a heat shield on the bottom.
Si fabrica una starship con fibra carbon que sean lo suficientemente resistente . Pesado y duradero al maximo como el prototipo del acero inoxidable anterior . que se recicle.
When parts are prefabbed to 24 hour intergation
Why isn't the booster made of carbon fiber if it doesn't have high re-entry temperatures?
It needs to fly first. One starship a day is a fantasy aimed at clueless public.
SN and starship are 2 different things
It might have worked to use carbon-carbon for reentry, but they couldn't manufacture that
But what about Starship v.2 which will be much larger than v.1?
Starship v2 will take 2days
I wonder if *SpaceX will buy *ULAs* launch site and fit a *StarShip* launcher on it?
won't happen
I will predict that starship will NEVER reach production of 1 per day. Simply due to the fact that it will be superseded by a better SpaceX vehicle long before then
Interesting
For space exploration for example mars, its not just trip to space like apollo in 1969 mars would be around 2 years and with people needs we need even more rockets for reason like cargo so its logical to build that many rockets.
In my eyes, it is a question of _should,_ not could.
Should spacex built a starship every 24 hours?
Even if they could slap starships together that fast, i think it would be unwise for them to do so. It leaves virtually no room for quality control or wuality assurance.
And if there is any industry you NEED quality assurance & control in, it's the space sector.
No other class of machine deals with harsher mechanical stresses, harsher vibratory & thermal loads, and harsher enviornmental conditions, both short term and long term, than that.
1:27 You misquoted Gwynne Shotwell. She did not say "on". the written quote is correct but your spoken error changes the entire meaning of her statement.
Who is flying on a starship built in 24 hours? NOT ME 🤣
I don’t believe the level of demand will support the infrastructure required for that level of production. Its not economically sustainable.
Not now but it will be in say 8--10 years.
wow. Hope fuel for all f that will not be a problem