In my opinion, the enhancement mods should not be part of this discussion. Those would apply to any DB9 volante of that generation and are not specific to the car on sale. Everything else is surely valuable advice from a very knowledgeable person! Thank you.
Yes, you are correct, the enhancement mods should not be taken into consideration as part of purchase price. However, drive a stock DB9V faster than walking pace and the limits of a std spec DB9 Volante are soon reached meaning that if wanting to enjoy the ride above walking pace (okay, I jest a little), the enhancements are inevitably needed. The point I was trying to get across here was that if someone arrives at that (inevitable) conclusion, a younger DB9 at less all up cost will perhaps be the better option, but this car was only brought to my attention because of the stick and 3 peddles, and as that becomes rarer as time ticks on, does in itself command a premium. As someone has highlighted in the comments, this car would suit an at home DIY’r, then with a slightly lower purchase price combined with evolving the car at home, would result in an awesome purchase 👍
No doubt it's a lovely car. I've been planning to buy a Db9 or a Rapide for the past year. I'm still in the process of saving up a good deposit for it. But in this time, I'm doing as much research as possible and your channel has of great benefit. Thank you for informing and the air of negativity is heathly.
The reasoning behind This idea of “add repairs cost to purchase price and you would be better of with the newer model” lacks something, wich is the amount of money you will have to spend repairing the newer model, that will certainly not be fault free
My interest in the DB9 models is because of the relative ease of working on them. I’m blessed with a little garage space plus a modicum of mechanical knowledge and hence, doing the plugs and coils I think is something I could tackle on my own. Other than those rear cover bolts, everything is easy to get to. Same for oil changes, not that complicated, less still on RHD cars with the steering box not in the way, ARB bushes too, not overly hard to do. The only thing I’d be a bit iffy about was messing around with the brakes and anything in that area. But I do wonder whether more people should spend some quality time with a workshop manual for these.
The brakes are basically the same as what go on Porsches and Cayenne's, look near identical to the 4 pot on the rear of my Cayenne and they're easy to swap. Porsche (Brembo) are designed to be swapped out trackside as street pads are useless on track and track pads are NOT road legal. The abundance of videos i've found for mono block callipers are for the Cayenne which may give you the confidence to tackle them. Good luck with that buddy... I'm taking my time shopping for the right DB9 to come along...
Interesting, how did you pick up learning how to do the mechanical side of the repairs? When you say they are easy to work with, are you comparing that with the average car maintenance? Thanks Nabeel
@@nabeelhussain1154 Hi Nabeel, I take a systematic approach. Disassembly is about the method for most aspects, taking your time and lay out the items as you go. Reassembly is about proper lubrication and torque settings of fasteners. Honestly it may even be worth going to a breakers yard and get an old calliper from any vehicle as take it apart, the mono blocks are technically easier on pad replacement and a little more tricky if this includes the discs. Mechanical sympathy goes a long way too. I remember the coolant pipes (plastic) blew on my Cayenne a few years ago which was a £4000+ cost to repair at a dealership. Always being a guy up for a challenge
@@OverlandTT Thank you for your reply, you definitely saved alot of bucks, more so I like the idea of maintaining a pride and joy yourself. My personal interest has always been Db9 and Rapide. I am still in the process of saving a good deposit for either one. (about a year away). In the meanwhile I have been doing alot of research and asking questions. Luckily I have a decent size garage where I'll be storing this imaginary car for now. But like yourself I want to work on it myself where I can I like the idea of systematic approach. Just to add I won't be in any rush to work on it (so time wouldn't be of an issue). Have you ever considered doing tutorial clips on the Db9 for basic maintenance? Thanks
I bought a 2007 DB9 with 40,000 klms and a full Aston service service history.A week later a error message showed the following."Do not start,Oil pump fault".I sent it to my local Aston dealer.They gave me a $7000 bill.They said I needed plugs,coils and numerous gaskets.No mention of the oil pump issue.Found an independant Aston trained workshop.
This video highlights the importance of getting an independent specialist, like Bamford Rose, to carry out a full inspection and highlight any potential problems with quotes for the works to be carried out so a potential buyer can then use to haggle down the asking price or simply walk away.
Good video, I have a 2007 DB9 volonte. Firstly I’ll say I love it navy blue beautiful tan leather interior I bought it at 29,000KM. I’ll give all potential buyers the real deal. Maintenance isn’t cheap 14-15 liters of oil at 30-40$ (Canadian) per liter. This year at 33,000 KM I had to change front breaks carbon fiber damn expensive after work an installation 3000.00$ I also bought new rear tires 550..-650.00$ per tire. So far that’s it. I knew it going in. I however bought it for 62,000$ Canadian dollars so I think I’m doing well, and I remain very happy with this car. I’ve owned a Porsche before, and I’ll say this Aston Martin are meticulousness in their building standards, I’ve never had a car with the most beautiful paint job ever. However to be clear they are not cheap to own like Toyota’s or Honda’s. Also the wheels are a bitch to keep clean the brake dust is substantial. In Canada I drive it only 7 months a year.
"and I’ll say this Aston Martin are meticulousness in their building standards" This is obviously not the case, is it! If it were, you wouldn't need someone like Mike/Bamford Rose. Let's be honest, this isn't, in any way, Lexus build quality ... It's not even a Toyota Corolla build quality. Basically, Aston's are cr@p, especially in terms of build quality and reliability. My boss had an Aston 1st month - 16 days at the shop being repaired 2nd month - 15 3rd month - 18 days There wasn't a 4th month! As for Porsche, tell me, how many lawsuits have they gone through for mechanical/engine engineering issues? Having seen the cr@p my brother went through with his Porsche, it has soured me for life. Porsche/Aston all show, lot of dough, no go!
utubecomment21 ok let me clarify, you seem adamant to be negative towards Aston Martin and that’s your right. High end cars require expensive maintenance and time. Sadly your boss sounds like he has lemon. My costs over the past 4 years have been a fraction of that. My notice to all thinking about buying an AM is simply be prepared for substantially higher costs than if you had a domestic or Japanese vehicle ie oil change at least 3x greater. Regardless I love the quality of the interior, the engine looks like a piece or art and I’ve never had a vehicle with a paint job of such beauty and high quality. There hand built and inspector/builder (Mick Moten) did a wonderful job on my car. I’m not here to convince you simply inform other potential buyers of challenges in the future, hence my own reason for viewing this video. Regards
@@martyincanuckistan3635 I don't really have an opinion, I'm simply reiterating what is so blindly obvious. However, your initial statement isn't just incorrect, it's that it can't be true in light of this UA-cam Channel. And the excuse that expensive cars are so expensive to maintain, is just that ... and excuse. If Lexus can bring out a reliable £350,000+ hyper car, why can't Aston do so with a car costing near one third of the price? Please show me a channel where Lexus cars are having to be corrected and re-engineered to such a degree, at a cost of £50,000+ The Gaydon cars, and Aston in general are poorly designed, and tragically engineered products, that's why we're all having to go to an engineer like Mike, to correct problems that shouldn't be problems. As I've said before, the problem is fanboyism. My brother went through the same thing with his Porsche. Constant "k repair bills, a blown engine, bits of the car falling off and more repair bills. But ask him about it, and the'll tell you its reliable. And how many class actions has there been against Porsche for various engine issues? These cars are poorly engineered on a mass scale.
Like I said previously your entitled to your opinion, channels like this are a blessing indeed and I find them helpful prior to future purchases, as for Lexus I had a 2013 Lexus is250 sport, and it wasn’t perfect, infact I had nothing but transmission problems, in general it was a good car but like the Aston not perfect. Like all cars made by human beings. The only perfect car I have downed was a 1985 Toyota Supra, oil changes and tires were my only costs for 13 years. But it’s not even close to what an Aston Martin is. My Aston is a car I use to cruise on occasion it’s not a daily drive I have a 2019 VW golf gti a fun car but prone to electrical issues sadly. What I find strange is if you dislike Aston, and don’t own one or intend buying one like I am, why even watch this video ? Strange indeed
@@martyincanuckistan3635 "Like I said previously your entitled to your opinion," Like I said before, I don't have an opinion. it's about FACTS backed up by empirical evidence! If one is too blinded by fanboyism, that's their problem, but to try to convince that these generations of Aston's aren't anything but one engineering disaster after another, is totally false! And the very existence of Bamford Rose, their work, the various corrective engineering projects and solutions, backs that up. It's not really up for debate! I'll leave you be. All the best.
Just shows how you need to do your homework and get help and advice from the people who work on these cars. Great video and if I ever take the plunge and buy my dream car (Aston of course) I will come and see you guys.
I totally agree with your comments Mike, at first glance car looks a good buy, but you do really need to do your homework or they can become a money pit. If the car was FAULT FREE and because of its rarity, then £40k -£42k would be a fair price, but not with all the issues it has just to get it on the road. We all expect to have to spend a few quid when we buy one of these wonderful machines, but I'd like to have some joy from it first before having to spend money. Tyres do wear out, a clutch, well we've all been caught having to replace one after a few years. A service, well I would have that done as the first thing anyway with a view to looking at what may be needed in the future. But coil packs, plugs, possibly replacement manifolds in case the cats have been destroyed or close to it, are something I would view as a possible requirement down the road if I was looking at a long term ownership. If the car was closer to £28k - £30k then it could be worth serious consideration. Get the essentials done to get some enjoyment with a view to looking at the manifolds suspension and any further bits and in a few years time after ownership then it wouldn't be so much an issue and as you say it would be a good motor for years ahead. At the end of the day you can spend £50k on a later model and it may be a car you don't spend anything major on and have years of stress free motoring. But buy without doing your homework and it certainly wont be if you buy at this price and with the issues it has. I hope the seller realises that they've possibly had many years free motoring doing just the essentials but now its in need of some serious expenditure and to sell they may have to review their sale price.
Very good video and you have confirmed what I thought buy the latest DB9 you can ?? it will cost more but it will pay the owner back My other view is buy from an Aston Dealership and keep the Warranty going Its a Car Plan Warranty and I have used the same warranty with a Jaguar XK for years and never had an issue repair bills can be High on Aston so I am belt and braces Latest model i can afford and AM Warranty I would like your views am I an the right track I hopefully get a DB9 in around 18 months and I will keep it long term they are special and they should hold value so a nice nest egg for my son when i have left the Grid
Can you please do a video of whether you can put the V12 vantage bonnet louvres on the V8 please !!!!! I know I keep asking but I will stop bothering you!! Lol Great channel When I get mine you’re my first port of call for it’s once over! Thanks Kevin
In my opinion, the enhancement mods should not be part of this discussion. Those would apply to any DB9 volante of that generation and are not specific to the car on sale. Everything else is surely valuable advice from a very knowledgeable person! Thank you.
Yes, you are correct, the enhancement mods should not be taken into consideration as part of purchase price. However, drive a stock DB9V faster than walking pace and the limits of a std spec DB9 Volante are soon reached meaning that if wanting to enjoy the ride above walking pace (okay, I jest a little), the enhancements are inevitably needed. The point I was trying to get across here was that if someone arrives at that (inevitable) conclusion, a younger DB9 at less all up cost will perhaps be the better option, but this car was only brought to my attention because of the stick and 3 peddles, and as that becomes rarer as time ticks on, does in itself command a premium. As someone has highlighted in the comments, this car would suit an at home DIY’r, then with a slightly lower purchase price combined with evolving the car at home, would result in an awesome purchase 👍
No doubt it's a lovely car. I've been planning to buy a Db9 or a Rapide for the past year. I'm still in the process of saving up a good deposit for it. But in this time, I'm doing as much research as possible and your channel has of great benefit.
Thank you for informing and the air of negativity is heathly.
if your saving up for one have at least 10k in the bank in addition for future bills
One day I hope to own one of these Astons. Truly beautiful cars
The reasoning behind This idea of “add repairs cost to purchase price and you would be better of with the newer model” lacks something, wich is the amount of money you will have to spend repairing the newer model, that will certainly not be fault free
Cant stop watching your videos, so interesting and honest, have opened my eyes to the aston ownership, still saving my penny's for a v12 vantage
I was tempted to buy one but bought a coupe.So glad I did.
My interest in the DB9 models is because of the relative ease of working on them. I’m blessed with a little garage space plus a modicum of mechanical knowledge and hence, doing the plugs and coils I think is something I could tackle on my own. Other than those rear cover bolts, everything is easy to get to. Same for oil changes, not that complicated, less still on RHD cars with the steering box not in the way, ARB bushes too, not overly hard to do. The only thing I’d be a bit iffy about was messing around with the brakes and anything in that area. But I do wonder whether more people should spend some quality time with a workshop manual for these.
The brakes are basically the same as what go on Porsches and Cayenne's, look near identical to the 4 pot on the rear of my Cayenne and they're easy to swap. Porsche (Brembo) are designed to be swapped out trackside as street pads are useless on track and track pads are NOT road legal. The abundance of videos i've found for mono block callipers are for the Cayenne which may give you the confidence to tackle them. Good luck with that buddy... I'm taking my time shopping for the right DB9 to come along...
Interesting, how did you pick up learning how to do the mechanical side of the repairs?
When you say they are easy to work with, are you comparing that with the average car maintenance?
Thanks
Nabeel
@@nabeelhussain1154
Hi Nabeel, I take a systematic approach. Disassembly is about the method for most aspects, taking your time and lay out the items as you go. Reassembly is about proper lubrication and torque settings of fasteners. Honestly it may even be worth going to a breakers yard and get an old calliper from any vehicle as take it apart, the mono blocks are technically easier on pad replacement and a little more tricky if this includes the discs. Mechanical sympathy goes a long way too.
I remember the coolant pipes (plastic) blew on my Cayenne a few years ago which was a £4000+ cost to repair at a dealership. Always being a guy up for a challenge
@@OverlandTT Thank you for your reply, you definitely saved alot of bucks, more so I like the idea of maintaining a pride and joy yourself.
My personal interest has always been Db9 and Rapide. I am still in the process of saving a good deposit for either one. (about a year away). In the meanwhile I have been doing alot of research and asking questions.
Luckily I have a decent size garage where I'll be storing this imaginary car for now.
But like yourself I want to work on it myself where I can I like the idea of systematic approach. Just to add I won't be in any rush to work on it (so time wouldn't be of an issue).
Have you ever considered doing tutorial clips on the Db9 for basic maintenance?
Thanks
@@nabeelhussain1154 would be interested in your research for a db9, would you care to discuss? Thanks, Minkos2@yahoo.co.uk
'8.30 - "It's a bit of a c*nt conundrum". 🤣
Wow, eye opening video. Love the DB9's but for the look and more reasonable running costs the Jaguar XKR has to be the one to go for.
The Jag would never be a choice for me personally, but I do understand why you say that.
XKR = Poor man's DB9
When you touch the gas pedal on an Aston Martin V12 you’ll change your mind on the Jaguar
I bought a 2007 DB9 with 40,000 klms and a full Aston service service history.A week later a error message showed the following."Do not start,Oil pump fault".I sent it to my local Aston dealer.They gave me a $7000 bill.They said I needed plugs,coils and numerous gaskets.No mention of the oil pump issue.Found an independant Aston trained workshop.
This video highlights the importance of getting an independent specialist, like Bamford Rose, to carry out a full inspection and highlight any potential problems with quotes for the works to be carried out so a potential buyer can then use to haggle down the asking price or simply walk away.
Good video, I have a 2007 DB9 volonte. Firstly I’ll say I love it navy blue beautiful tan leather interior I bought it at 29,000KM.
I’ll give all potential buyers the real deal. Maintenance isn’t cheap 14-15 liters of oil at 30-40$ (Canadian) per liter. This year at 33,000 KM I had to change front breaks carbon fiber damn expensive after work an installation 3000.00$
I also bought new rear tires 550..-650.00$ per tire. So far that’s it. I knew it going in. I however bought it for 62,000$ Canadian dollars so I think I’m doing well, and I remain very happy with this car. I’ve owned a Porsche before, and I’ll say this Aston Martin are meticulousness in their building standards, I’ve never had a car with the most beautiful paint job ever. However to be clear they are not cheap to own like Toyota’s or Honda’s. Also the wheels are a bitch to keep clean the brake dust is substantial. In Canada I drive it only 7 months a year.
"and I’ll say this Aston Martin are meticulousness in their building standards"
This is obviously not the case, is it! If it were, you wouldn't need someone like Mike/Bamford Rose. Let's be honest, this isn't, in any way, Lexus build quality ... It's not even a Toyota Corolla build quality. Basically, Aston's are cr@p, especially in terms of build quality and reliability.
My boss had an Aston
1st month - 16 days at the shop being repaired
2nd month - 15
3rd month - 18 days
There wasn't a 4th month!
As for Porsche, tell me, how many lawsuits have they gone through for mechanical/engine engineering issues? Having seen the cr@p my brother went through with his Porsche, it has soured me for life. Porsche/Aston all show, lot of dough, no go!
utubecomment21 ok let me clarify, you seem adamant to be negative towards Aston Martin and that’s your right. High end cars require expensive maintenance and time. Sadly your boss sounds like he has lemon. My costs over the past 4 years have been a fraction of that. My notice to all thinking about buying an AM is simply be prepared for substantially higher costs than if you had a domestic or Japanese vehicle ie oil change at least 3x greater. Regardless I love the quality of the interior, the engine looks like a piece or art and I’ve never had a vehicle with a paint job of such beauty and high quality. There hand built and inspector/builder (Mick Moten) did a wonderful job on my car. I’m not here to convince you simply inform other potential buyers of challenges in the future, hence my own reason for viewing this video. Regards
@@martyincanuckistan3635 I don't really have an opinion, I'm simply reiterating what is so blindly obvious. However, your initial statement isn't just incorrect, it's that it can't be true in light of this UA-cam Channel.
And the excuse that expensive cars are so expensive to maintain, is just that ... and excuse. If Lexus can bring out a reliable £350,000+ hyper car, why can't Aston do so with a car costing near one third of the price?
Please show me a channel where Lexus cars are having to be corrected and re-engineered to such a degree, at a cost of £50,000+
The Gaydon cars, and Aston in general are poorly designed, and tragically engineered products, that's why we're all having to go to an engineer like Mike, to correct problems that shouldn't be problems.
As I've said before, the problem is fanboyism. My brother went through the same thing with his Porsche. Constant "k repair bills, a blown engine, bits of the car falling off and more repair bills. But ask him about it, and the'll tell you its reliable. And how many class actions has there been against Porsche for various engine issues?
These cars are poorly engineered on a mass scale.
Like I said previously your entitled to your opinion, channels like this are a blessing indeed and I find them helpful prior to future purchases, as for Lexus I had a 2013 Lexus is250 sport, and it wasn’t perfect, infact I had nothing but transmission problems, in general it was a good car but like the Aston not perfect. Like all cars made by human beings. The only perfect car I have downed was a 1985 Toyota Supra, oil changes and tires were my only costs for 13 years. But it’s not even close to what an Aston Martin is. My Aston is a car I use to cruise on occasion it’s not a daily drive I have a 2019 VW golf gti a fun car but prone to electrical issues sadly.
What I find strange is if you dislike Aston, and don’t own one or intend buying one like I am, why even watch this video ? Strange indeed
@@martyincanuckistan3635 "Like I said previously your entitled to your opinion,"
Like I said before, I don't have an opinion. it's about FACTS backed up by empirical evidence! If one is too blinded by fanboyism, that's their problem, but to try to convince that these generations of Aston's aren't anything but one engineering disaster after another, is totally false! And the very existence of Bamford Rose, their work, the various corrective engineering projects and solutions, backs that up. It's not really up for debate!
I'll leave you be.
All the best.
Just shows how you need to do your homework and get help and advice from the people who work on these cars.
Great video and if I ever take the plunge and buy my dream car (Aston of course) I will come and see you guys.
I totally agree with your comments Mike, at first glance car looks a good buy, but you do really need to do your homework or they can become a money pit.
If the car was FAULT FREE and because of its rarity, then £40k -£42k would be a fair price, but not with all the issues it has just to get it on the road.
We all expect to have to spend a few quid when we buy one of these wonderful machines, but I'd like to have some joy from it first before having to spend money. Tyres do wear out, a clutch, well we've all been caught having to replace one after a few years. A service, well I would have that done as the first thing anyway with a view to looking at what may be needed in the future. But coil packs, plugs, possibly replacement manifolds in case the cats have been destroyed or close to it, are something I would view as a possible requirement down the road if I was looking at a long term ownership.
If the car was closer to £28k - £30k then it could be worth serious consideration. Get the essentials done to get some enjoyment with a view to looking at the manifolds suspension and any further bits and in a few years time after ownership then it wouldn't be so much an issue and as you say it would be a good motor for years ahead.
At the end of the day you can spend £50k on a later model and it may be a car you don't spend anything major on and have years of stress free motoring. But buy without doing your homework and it certainly wont be if you buy at this price and with the issues it has. I hope the seller realises that they've possibly had many years free motoring doing just the essentials but now its in need of some serious expenditure and to sell they may have to review their sale price.
Very good video and you have confirmed what I thought buy the latest DB9 you can ?? it will cost more but it will pay the owner back My other view is buy from an Aston Dealership and keep the Warranty going Its a Car Plan Warranty and I have used the same warranty with a Jaguar XK for years and never had an issue repair bills can be High on Aston so I am belt and braces Latest model i can afford and AM Warranty I would like your views am I an the right track I hopefully get a DB9 in around 18 months and I will keep it long term they are special and they should hold value so a nice nest egg for my son when i have left the Grid
Can you please do a video of whether you can put the V12 vantage bonnet louvres on the V8 please !!!!!
I know I keep asking but I will stop bothering you!! Lol
Great channel
When I get mine you’re my first port of call for it’s once over!
Thanks
Kevin
Kevin, look for red pants on UA-cam. The guy has 2 v8 vantages. He tracks one of them and has a v12 bonnet fitted for extra cooling.
johnc5clive brilliant many thanks for that appreciated
No probs. He has lots of useful content and quite open to questions. Good luck 👍