I notice that many survivors of cult exploitation are very sweet kind socially conscious people. they are people who care about making a better world. They are people with lots of empathy. And with lots of empathy comes a blurring between the lines of self and other. when your gut is telling you to say no, it knows best. No other person should be able to intrude upon that and change it. Steven I bet you are still healing from all you've been through. With time self-assurance will grow and you will be the number one person that you trust in every situation.
Puppy Alex Steven, let them down - they will get over it. In order for you to feel lifted up, sometimes you have to say NO. They will find someone else.
Fairy Guinevere hahaha I notice this too, but also PATIENCE, I mean wow. He will say we went back and forth like that for an hour or hour and a half. I'm like what?!? They would of had 5 min, after 5 min they could keep talking until I get to my car but they will have to follow me. It's clear to see why they hate psychologists. I would of told them they are claiming I am unable to face the paperwork...prove it, it's your claim to prove, not mine to disprove.
I like you Steve mango ! You have a good heart and that is what Scientology knew to , but instead they exploited and took advantage of your good heart ! I'm so glad you had a wake up moment that got you out of that cult .
I really enjoy listening to your videos Steven. You bring that personal contact [as much as you can in video] and your personal story. Thanks for taking the time and doing this.
I could listen to you talk about your scientology experience all day, it's unbelievable what you and others have endured.. Much respect to you Steven, keep the stories coming.😊💕👍
Anything after the first 'no' is just coercion - you could fight it in court. They don't have many people joining anymore, so they have to work damn hard on the people already in $cientology. Too bad - it sounds like most people are kind people who want to do their part to help the world.
With all these stories of yours, I find it so admirable that you resisted despite their strong persuasive methods. The rest of your life will be amazing. No one can take advantage of you.
I LOVE WATCHING YOUR VIDEOS AND CONTINUING TO LEARN THE INNER WORKINGS OF SCIENTOLOGY. SO YES, PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON THE SEA ORGANIZATION. I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH MYSELF BUT I LOVE TO HEAR MORE.
Your story would make a great Twilight Zone episode! Can you imagine the pressure they got from those above them to get you to sign? All intuition and compassion was thrown out the window.
After listening to everything you said about how ridiculous they were trying to coerce your to sign that stupid contract, I was so disappointed when you actually said, "I signed the contract."
Thanks for sharing Steven. This is typical staff recruitment behavior. I can't count the number of multi-hour efforts to get me to join staff I had to endure over the years. It is exhausting, especially when 4 people have you cornered. I wish someone would secretly video some of these recruitment efforts. People would be shocked to really see how intensely they go after you, pounding on your "help" button. Looking forward to seeing your Sea Org recruitment experience video.
well delivered Steven, and all I will say to you in regards to this is take a bow, you were amazing to maintain your strength throughout it all, despite their promises. And take credit in the fact that it took them 10 hours to get a signature off you in the first instance. When the mind is tired and the body is weak, we will do anything to find that resting place, stronger minds have given up a lot quicker. You continue to heal my good man, and continue to share your stories, talking does help. Best of luck.
Hi Steve. Good job with the videos. I just read your bio and it reminded me of an experience I had with Scientology. A few years ago, I was working at the production offices down the street from 'The Way To Happiness' office in Glendale. I had no idea at the time that it was a front for Scientology. I did know, however, that Scientology was a cult. One day I was walking back to the office with a co-worker after lunch and they came up to me and asked me to model for their advertising materials. I thought there was no harm in it and it sounded like fun. I went in and they made me sign something and they took some photos with me and others pretending to be interested in their facility. It was only after it was done that I realized the organization was linked to Scientology. I though, "Oh shit! I don't want to be a part of this in any way!' They offered me some books (one was dianetics, that's how I knew it was Scientology) and I said, "No thanks." I'm surprised they didn't push harder and let me go. I wanted to ask them not to use my photos but since I had already signed the release form I just let it go. I think to this day I am on the website but you can't see my face. Now that I read your bio I realize I may be in the booklets too. Creeps me out!
Freaks! You are a super strong young man and need to get on A&E with Mike Rinder and Leah Remini. Thank you for sharing your videos. A bean and cheese Barito. OMG!!!
Word clearing sounds like an absolute nightmare for people like myself who have Dyslexia lol I stutter when I try to read out loud. I'd be stuck in that room with the contract for a year.
Throughout this video I keep asking myself one thing: Unless he already had decided to join them, maybe subconsciously, why wouldn't he just get up and leave! Specially after that bean thing!
Steven, idk why, but you seem very natural in this vid. I like it. You're funny. Either you're on vacation or you had some quality time with hubby lol. Whatever it is, keep it up...
Hi Steve-Paul from Australia.I’m really enjoying your videos,you are interesting story teller,great detail,I felt like was there with you.I also resonate with your story and the many levels of manipulation you went through because I have been tricked as well.You have caring heart and Your so strong in your self to “pull out” as you did.It took my friend to “snap “ me out of it, I almost feel for it as well.xx
+Monica Richardson Hey Monica! Nice to hear from you ❤ Feel feee to shoot me an email so we can chat privately: mangoman7591@gmail.com or find me on Facebook!
The "yes sir", even for women, is a part of their naval background. Female ship captains are addressed as sir. I learned that they call women sir by watching Star Trek Voyager :)
Hey Steve! It’s your new friend that talked to you on Instagram yesterday! I subscribed to both of your channels and haven’t been able to get enough of you since! You are amazing! 😉
It is coercion and they did this crap to me too in Texas trying to get me to sign a contract to give them money.. Yea!!!! you ripped it up. Yes, Manipulative. Trying to wear you down and make you feel guilty. Why didn't you walk out earlier. Great to hear what lengths they will go through. Someone made me promise I would sign nothing if I went to check them out. So I told them this repeatedly, they still tried badgering me. They are Smarmy.
I am happy that you woke up and walked away from Scientology and reclaimed your life. Congratulations :D Question: Scientology has a web site, so, if you are not supposed to use the internet as Scientologists; why do they have a web site?
Beth Mcquillan I don't know much about it,but it seems they want as much information from you as they can so they can use it against you later as blackmail
wow! i never heard of this! first mistake you did was. Sticking around when you said no. I mean what do you expect if someone is saying no and STILL siting around listening to them?
They are sooo desperate for money I would not eat anything they whipped up, who knows what drugs might be in it, not that I have ever heard that they do that, but they are pretty crazy and targeted.
You didn't mention at first that the burrito also had cheese with the beans. That makes a big difference. I would have been farting away all night long if they offered me one. It would have made the party a lot of fun.
To Hector Ramirez Jr.that phrase came from the urban dictionary and you fit the description perfect. Your not even good at being a troll. And to say negative things about Steve and his videos to make people aware of crimes and the exploitation of people who are looking to better themselves is a true crime and that being said Hector maybe you should go join the sea org. im sure you would love making peoples lives miserable.
I've watched many of yours videos and it must be nearly 50 or more and your protest videos but still can't work out why you don't seem to have them hunting you like so many ex scientologist do with their p I and causing problems for you now you are out, has you are anti scientology. I think. But some ex scientologist have problems when they have escaped or how they left. So can you tell me how you don't seem to have are there reasons
Wtf is someone asking you about sexual position for? You’re talking about your experience in Scientology! As Stephanie from Full House would say, “how rude!”
Well, you dodged a bullet. Now turn to the one who made you, loves you and wants you to do the right thing... (repent) --- it's the Lord God Almighty; Jesus Christ.
Steven you were the nornal regular POLITE GUY. and your "recruiters" usually would have hesistated to use such lame, intrusive, pathetic schemes on you. - BUT human relationships and family are not as important as "church". So what does it matter that the recruiters repell a lot of people that would otherwise (at least for some time) have a good opinion on the "church" and the recruiters ? What does it matter that there will be embarrassing and awkward situations ? That many people will have a falling out (like you liking some of the guys but when they start pestering you you started to avoid them) ? - If the recruiters work through a LOT of very awkward situations they will end up with a FEW "successes" - and these folks are practically selling themselves into slavery in exchange for a "bridge to the rainbow". So the "church" (read top management, David Miscavige and maybe a few other people) can easily resign themselves to the fact count that the recruiters and registrars (sales people) will have to use up a lot of goodwill and discard a lot of prospects until they find the one guy or gal that can be coerced to work for free or sign on to the next course. Once they have a person MORE in their environment (at work or in their courses) they can work the magic of brainwashing on them. The more a person is sucked in, the better their chances are to KEEP a person under the spell. The recruiters and the middle management pushing them mercilessly are equally brainwashed - and there is ENORMOUS pressure on them to meet their targets - plus the "anything goes - it is for saving the planet after all" attitude gives the recruiters and sales people the necessary moral cover to be RUTHLESS. Not that I think they want to be a nuisance to other people and want to be ruthless - these well-intentioned folks wouldn't do half of the things when they were selling used cars - but in that context all restrictions of politeness, of not making a fool of yourself, of respecting boundaries and an No go are negated - they are trained by the cult to disregard all those natural reservations. For a registrar it would be an extreme weakness if he would "accept" the "excuse" that a person cannot afford a training. When they have college fund to plunder, a relative they could ask for a loan or a house on which to take ANOTHER mortgage or a credit card with STILL some credit - they have to be RUTHLESS. Showing sympathy - of course you do not want to go further into debt. Leah Remini talked about that (I think it was in the 2nd season. Scientology and the money). Also the late Sy Levy 2nd best selling registrar in flag (brining in around 10 million USD per year, his record was 15 millions) said that someone listened in on such conversations. If he wasn't ruthless enough or didn't use the right arguments.
You were so young and I've been watching your videos and I feel like when you were young in school and bullied then when you went to Cali it sounds like right after graduation. I feel horrible that they had you the minute you went to that first 20 buck thing, I remember the minute my daughter graduated the credit card apps were in the mail and she got 2 and one was quite a bit so you being with these take no for an answer fucks!!! Honestly I'm glad your husband came into your life when he did. If they need money why not have the stars give them this money they want? I know, getting to credit card debt. My daughter maxed them right away and not that great of a part time job cause she was in school as well and living with me but I've been disabled and I had zero money to help her but eventually she got them paid off. I'm saying credit card companies are jerks going for young kids and poor you and these freaks. I'm a wicked witch when I see people fucked with!!! I'm just saying I've been watching all your videos and then leah reminis dad ad from Scientology really pisses me off while I'm watching ur vids. He's 69 and I say go on disability fool if your unwell! I am on it . Is this ad shit on purpose?? If so, it's bull! Anyway keep up on vids
are you a bit fixated on Scientology buddy? think emotional pressure, love bombing and dropping contracts on you after this.. I'd say most people with a strong character would even feel uncomfortable rejecting their super friendly offer.. anyone who is easily lead, vulnerable or easily lead, would be taken in... I'd say others would see through it very quickly as a hard emotional pressure based sales technique and the tactic would actually drive people who are pretty together well away... lots of beaming as you say... got a similar treatment after doing on course on a just having a look, no interest in joining and told the course was stand alone and not part of anything else, just a self improvement course... but it included divulging "overts" for future auditing, so clearly that is not a stand alone course, I was told the course was not faith based and I shoudl do it and see if it worked.. but when I finished suddenly that changed and going straight to another course and not testing it, my number given to a recruiter... tour given, lots a flattery, three people focusing on me, one asking in jolly tone "has I said yes yet.. and I was smart so I would of course" , ... totally unethical, and then the contract of belief in things about Scientology I could not sign honestly as i had no where near the knowledge to do so.. even if I wanted to, the 2,5 -5 year contract etc. as you have seen yourself steven... this is after doing one course which I was told had no commitment and was separate .... anyone who's been about, with a bit of world experience would see right through it.. unless in a vulnerable state.. so blatant. The make you feel like a special one thing is common it seems. .. this was a couple of months after I started my course and about a week or two after I finished it. The material they have, is pretty good advice, lots from other philosophies and religions... You experience sound very like mine.. it's funny how they downplay the contract, but still play it up... and it is dishonest to sign something you don't believe or can't due to lack of knowledge.... man... I'd say let it go, don't let this experience take up so much of your mind, you have given a warning, done you bit... if you put to much time on it, it will harm you. All the best from Ireland.
holy fuck man... they really went to town on you.... thank God they don't have many people in their NATIONAL AFFAIRS OFFICE OF IRELAND here in Ireland. These people doing it, what are they thinking? they are aware they are using unethical methods to get you to join... while claiming to be ethical promoter and ethically based in a serious way. How do they square this in their heads.. if they are unethical and know they are running a scam, ok, but I get the feeling they think they are ethical and moral people helping... The woman recruiter called the head hancho, the leader of the UK operation, sir.. and in a weird way, you don't usually get that hierarchy language except in a military or similar set up... I've watched a few videos, most seem to be hit pieces with made up stuff, just hopping on the bandwagon of attacking Scientology... your story resonates with mine big time... you got it bigger and "better" though, but after a longer time... they hadn't the same amount of people for me, three people basically, including the head for the UK and Ireland, it was funny, he said he didn't usually talk to those on my level, in a nice way, but I think i was supposed to feel honored lol also, I had done one course... so the stuff on the form was absurd to even present to me... leaving aside the fact I had taken this course on a "I'm just doing the course" understanding. How can people who believe they are doing good, engage in this? how can they talk about "overts" and honesty, and use dishonest methods? I don't think they will do well in Dublin, they are setting up an ideal church here, to be done in 8 months, with no basic church here at all. Perhaps I should do a video too... a few non exaggerated experiences by people like yourself and myself, who have nothing to gain from exposing tactics, could help.. but I would not get into covering them beyond my own experience and maybe posting the documents to become staff I have and that other form. .. stuff by celebs and the like is worthless, they get publicity etc for "exposing" them.... You know, the thing that hit me, was their pitch, their tactics were so overtly con tricks and scam oriented, they lacked skill in a con... it was like being in a parody of a recruitment, their pitch, would make people say no.... also, they are too American in style, is seems cheesy and weak, ham fisted... and the video material is awful, from an Irish perspective.. and after we got rid of the catholic church, and church trying to bully will be shown the door... social justice warrior bigots and the LGBT are the new bullies on the block and they go for anyone who doesn't fully support them... they love attacking people, if the LGBT see them as being homophobic (there was a gay man at an important level in their Dublin office) they will go to town on them.. the LGBt, here anyway, is a powerful hate group, and they have had to make up things to rail about and attack people who have non conforming views.... also, the american style will fuck them up, they will seem like Mormons, who are at least open and pretty chilled out, and honest... ... can you PM me, I'll scam my forms so you can see them and we can compare. I think they will be recruiting people too quick, as they did with me, and it won't work... but to insure people are ready for the love bombing and tactics, some leaflets being handed out could do the trick. I haven't seen many videos like yours, do you know many other people with this experience? call it, the standard scam. There are too many people cashing in n the "attack sceintology bandwagon" saw Hubbard's grandson, a moronic tourist looking for chicks and free beer... their recruiting tactics being shown up, show up the rest... no decent group recruits this way.
I'd stay away from theroux... his jimmy saville connection and now trying to rationalize and sanitize his and others complicity make him a low life... not to be trusted.
First of all, I never said there was anything wrong with making money (that assumption speaks to YOUR values). As a public speaker, I gave him a tip that all speakers learn if they want to keep the attention of an audience. How long do YOU listen to a speaker that says "um..um..um...between words or "like..like..like..? Studies prove people are turned off by those tics. Secondly he asked for donations to repair his camera and another video about how Scientology bankrupted him and all his extensive debt. He also stated that he would like people to contact him to file a class action suit. So if he wants to be successful in these FINANCIAL or VIDEO endeavors then he needs to learn to speak without the idiocincracies that people find annoying. Common Sense.
this is the second comment ive noticed not to say there isnt more from you if you dont like his videos then why are you watching ?? the last comment you left i couldnt reply as it was taken down before i could why are you so against steven telling his story ?
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I notice that many survivors of cult exploitation are very sweet kind socially conscious people. they are people who care about making a better world. They are people with lots of empathy. And with lots of empathy comes a blurring between the lines of self and other. when your gut is telling you to say no, it knows best. No other person should be able to intrude upon that and change it. Steven I bet you are still healing from all you've been through. With time self-assurance will grow and you will be the number one person that you trust in every situation.
Puppy Alex Steven, let them down - they will get over it. In order for you to feel lifted up, sometimes you have to say NO. They will find someone else.
Fairy Guinevere hahaha I notice this too, but also PATIENCE, I mean wow. He will say we went back and forth like that for an hour or hour and a half. I'm like what?!? They would of had 5 min, after 5 min they could keep talking until I get to my car but they will have to follow me.
It's clear to see why they hate psychologists. I would of told them they are claiming I am unable to face the paperwork...prove it, it's your claim to prove, not mine to disprove.
Or easily manipulated people.
Did he just say Billion year contract?! WTF how is that even possible?
@@mephistopheles5327 They believe in reincarnation that's why.
I loved when you called that guy out that keeps asking about position! That was awesome!
I like you Steve mango ! You have a good heart and that is what Scientology knew to , but instead they exploited and took advantage of your good heart ! I'm so glad you had a wake up moment that got you out of that cult .
I really enjoy listening to your videos Steven. You bring that personal contact [as much as you can in video] and your personal story. Thanks for taking the time and doing this.
I could listen to you talk about your scientology experience all day, it's unbelievable what you and others have endured.. Much respect to you Steven, keep the stories coming.😊💕👍
Anything after the first 'no' is just coercion - you could fight it in court. They don't have many people joining anymore, so they have to work damn hard on the people already in $cientology. Too bad - it sounds like most people are kind people who want to do their part to help the world.
What a bunch of relentless torture!! David Miscavige is the SP.
With all these stories of yours, I find it so admirable that you resisted despite their strong persuasive methods. The rest of your life will be amazing. No one can take advantage of you.
I LOVE WATCHING YOUR VIDEOS AND CONTINUING TO LEARN THE INNER WORKINGS OF SCIENTOLOGY. SO YES, PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON THE SEA ORGANIZATION. I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH MYSELF BUT I LOVE TO HEAR MORE.
Your story would make a great Twilight Zone episode! Can you imagine the pressure they got from those above them to get you to sign? All intuition and compassion was thrown out the window.
thats awesome that you recognized immediately the mind games that they were playing. Theres alot of people that wouldnt see that. ; )
After listening to everything you said about how ridiculous they were trying to coerce your to sign that stupid contract, I was so disappointed when you actually said, "I signed the contract."
Thanks for sharing Steven. This is typical staff recruitment behavior. I can't count the number of multi-hour efforts to get me to join staff I had to endure over the years. It is exhausting, especially when 4 people have you cornered. I wish someone would secretly video some of these recruitment efforts. People would be shocked to really see how intensely they go after you, pounding on your "help" button. Looking forward to seeing your Sea Org recruitment experience video.
Brian Smith yes! How come nobody has successfully snuck a camera inside?
To be qualified for staff, one only needs to have a pulse.
And a healthy bank balance ;)
@@Kristopher342 In my case the bank account requirement was waived. They were only looking for warm bodies.
@@Kristopher342 It's the scientologists that don't have a bank account that get on staff to get the bridge
well delivered Steven, and all I will say to you in regards to this is take a bow, you were amazing to maintain your strength throughout it all, despite their promises. And take credit in the fact that it took them 10 hours to get a signature off you in the first instance. When the mind is tired and the body is weak, we will do anything to find that resting place, stronger minds have given up a lot quicker. You continue to heal my good man, and continue to share your stories, talking does help. Best of luck.
Hi Steve. Good job with the videos. I just read your bio and it reminded me of an experience I had with Scientology. A few years ago, I was working at the production offices down the street from 'The Way To Happiness' office in Glendale. I had no idea at the time that it was a front for Scientology. I did know, however, that Scientology was a cult. One day I was walking back to the office with a co-worker after lunch and they came up to me and asked me to model for their advertising materials. I thought there was no harm in it and it sounded like fun. I went in and they made me sign something and they took some photos with me and others pretending to be interested in their facility. It was only after it was done that I realized the organization was linked to Scientology. I though, "Oh shit! I don't want to be a part of this in any way!' They offered me some books (one was dianetics, that's how I knew it was Scientology) and I said, "No thanks." I'm surprised they didn't push harder and let me go. I wanted to ask them not to use my photos but since I had already signed the release form I just let it go. I think to this day I am on the website but you can't see my face. Now that I read your bio I realize I may be in the booklets too. Creeps me out!
Freaks! You are a super strong young man and need to get on A&E with Mike Rinder and Leah Remini. Thank you for sharing your videos. A bean and cheese Barito. OMG!!!
No cheese...just bean and tortilla.
Oops...yes the burrito did have cheese.
I can just watch and listen to you for hours. lol
OMG, Steven your hilarious... crazy story...
Steven. . nicely done. . . Those folks be crazy, yo!
Keep exposing Scientology! Also you are very handsome :)
Word clearing sounds like an absolute nightmare for people like myself who have Dyslexia lol I stutter when I try to read out loud. I'd be stuck in that room with the contract for a year.
Me too isn't Tom Cruise Dyslexic, maybe he signed that contract to get them off his back.
I love your videos!
Throughout this video I keep asking myself one thing: Unless he already had decided to join them, maybe subconsciously, why wouldn't he just get up and leave! Specially after that bean thing!
How can those people sleep at night? I hope the spell is broken and they all wake up soon. That is crazy!
Steven, idk why, but you seem very natural in this vid. I like it. You're funny. Either you're on vacation or you had some quality time with hubby lol. Whatever it is, keep it up...
I love to listen to you. You have a very soothing voice.
Hi Steve-Paul from Australia.I’m really enjoying your videos,you are interesting story teller,great detail,I felt like was there with you.I also resonate with your story and the many levels of manipulation you went through because I have been tricked as well.You have caring heart and Your so strong in your self to “pull out” as you did.It took my friend to “snap “ me out of it, I almost feel for it as well.xx
Steve, I love you and your videos. Keep up the good work and thank you for all your hard work in making and posting these videos.
HI Nice to see that you are exposing them and speaking the truth ! We met a few months ago. I am the filmmaker for The 13th Step that exposes AA.
+Monica Richardson Hey Monica! Nice to hear from you ❤ Feel feee to shoot me an email so we can chat privately: mangoman7591@gmail.com or find me on Facebook!
The "yes sir", even for women, is a part of their naval background. Female ship captains are addressed as sir. I learned that they call women sir by watching Star Trek Voyager :)
Thanks for your help! It's been really useful! At this moment they are asking me for being a staff member.
Are you still in scientology!?
That was an awesome story. I love your videos. Your helping a lot of people.
Thank you, we really enjoyed your video.
The police actually use that signing tactic for people to sign statements they don’t want to, under duress. :/ :/ :/
Hey Steve! It’s your new friend that talked to you on Instagram yesterday! I subscribed to both of your channels and haven’t been able to get enough of you since! You are amazing! 😉
I heard your story before so glad you got situtaional awareness... Man you dodged a Bullet!!
Great story. Thanks for sharing.
This is such an interesting video! Thank you for sharing
Crazyests thing i ever heard.... holly shit
Damn this guy is so good I grabbed paper and put an S on it!! Would have been a great staff member but then again you are a better human.
SMH!!! Whew, you're very strong honey...keep helping others with your videos!!!
Omg that's just so crazy.. I'm so happy you are out of this cult!! 😆
It is coercion and they did this crap to me too in Texas trying to get me to sign a contract to give them money.. Yea!!!! you ripped it up. Yes, Manipulative. Trying to wear you down and make you feel guilty. Why didn't you walk out earlier. Great to hear what lengths they will go through. Someone made me promise I would sign nothing if I went to check them out. So I told them this repeatedly, they still tried badgering me. They are Smarmy.
Love your energy 😊🌞☕️
Their "contracts" mean nothing really. A billion year contract?
Thanks for sharing.
More about sea org. Thank you for your courage. What u r doing is important.
I would have caved for two bean and cheese burritos. But only if they threw in guacamole.
gotta have guac....
If this was a tv show I would not believe it was true. Now if it was a steak and baked potato...I might sign. I'm so sorry this happened to you.
Five hours per day? That's an extremely generous offer. Most staffers end up working at least 15 hours per day...
I am happy that you woke up and walked away from Scientology and reclaimed your life.
Congratulations :D
Question: Scientology has a web site, so, if you are not supposed to use the internet as Scientologists; why do they have a web site?
The website is to tell the rest of the world about Scientology to recruit people
“Do I really need a bean and cheese burrito right now?” 😅 Yikes, that’s a pretty nightmarish gaslighting experience.
Remember these notes when you join that Scientology wackos. "RE, MI, DO, MI, SOL"
Sex questions??? Oh hell no. Not their business. Freaks! They are!
Beth Mcquillan I don't know much about it,but it seems they want as much information from you as they can so they can use it against you later as blackmail
wow! i never heard of this! first mistake you did was. Sticking around when you said no. I mean what do you expect if someone is saying no and STILL siting around listening to them?
I would just be dubious of any organization that values a 5 year contract in a seemingly comparable fashion to a billion year contract.
They are sooo desperate for money I would not eat anything they whipped up, who knows what drugs might be in it, not that I have ever heard that they do that, but they are pretty crazy and targeted.
The good old reach and withdraw. How clever of them.
you said you didnt sign in your 4 hour post...?
You didn't mention at first that the burrito also had cheese with the beans. That makes a big difference. I would have been farting away all night long if they offered me one. It would have made the party a lot of fun.
The TL;DW.. He eventually gives in to high pressure tactics to join staff. The nope moment came when ordered to clean toilets.
No crap.. if this were me I would have sh$t my pants in fear
They ran objective processes with you and didn't let you leave
We chose you to be on staff = I need another signed contract before 2 on Thursday no matter what
They prey on people
The Staff Data form is on Reddit
Yes, want to see sea org. recruitment.
Sell me that beautiful dresser and I'll forgive you your haircut! =)
the toilet lady did u a big favor
Did you give scientology a chance friendo?
insane omfg insane..poor you..what a trip
It's tragic what those damn cultists did to your hair. And your manhood. You should sue, finnochio.
Creepy stuff
Just dont get involved into any other cults religions or politics
Sounds worse than a timeshare sales pitch.
I meant SEA ORG
To Hector Ramirez Jr.that phrase came from the urban dictionary and you fit the description perfect. Your not even good at being a troll. And to say negative things about Steve and his videos to make people aware of crimes and the exploitation of people who are looking to better themselves is a true crime and that being said Hector maybe you should go join the sea org. im sure you would love making peoples lives miserable.
You love that cult .crazy and nuts.
I've watched many of yours videos
and it must be nearly 50 or more and your protest videos but still can't work out why you don't seem to have them hunting you like so many ex scientologist do with their p I and causing problems for you now you are out, has you are anti scientology. I think.
But some ex scientologist have problems when they have escaped or how they left.
So can you tell me how you don't seem to have are there reasons
Wtf is someone asking you about sexual position for? You’re talking about your experience in Scientology! As Stephanie from Full House would say, “how rude!”
Well, you dodged a bullet. Now turn to the one who made you, loves you and wants you to do the right thing... (repent) --- it's the Lord God Almighty; Jesus Christ.
Steven you were the nornal regular POLITE GUY. and your "recruiters" usually would have hesistated to use such lame, intrusive, pathetic schemes on you. - BUT human relationships and family are not as important as "church". So what does it matter that the recruiters repell a lot of people that would otherwise (at least for some time) have a good opinion on the "church" and the recruiters ?
What does it matter that there will be embarrassing and awkward situations ? That many people will have a falling out (like you liking some of the guys but when they start pestering you you started to avoid them) ? - If the recruiters work through a LOT of very awkward situations they will end up with a FEW "successes" - and these folks are practically selling themselves into slavery in exchange for a "bridge to the rainbow".
So the "church" (read top management, David Miscavige and maybe a few other people) can easily resign themselves to the fact count that the recruiters and registrars (sales people) will have to use up a lot of goodwill and discard a lot of prospects until they find the one guy or gal that can be coerced to work for free or sign on to the next course.
Once they have a person MORE in their environment (at work or in their courses) they can work the magic of brainwashing on them. The more a person is sucked in, the better their chances are to KEEP a person under the spell.
The recruiters and the middle management pushing them mercilessly are equally brainwashed - and there is ENORMOUS pressure on them to meet their targets - plus the "anything goes - it is for saving the planet after all" attitude gives the recruiters and sales people the necessary moral cover to be RUTHLESS. Not that I think they want to be a nuisance to other people and want to be ruthless - these well-intentioned folks wouldn't do half of the things when they were selling used cars - but in that context all restrictions of politeness, of not making a fool of yourself, of respecting boundaries and an No go are negated - they are trained by the cult to disregard all those natural reservations.
For a registrar it would be an extreme weakness if he would "accept" the "excuse" that a person cannot afford a training. When they have college fund to plunder, a relative they could ask for a loan or a house on which to take ANOTHER mortgage or a credit card with STILL some credit - they have to be RUTHLESS. Showing sympathy - of course you do not want to go further into debt. Leah Remini talked about that (I think it was in the 2nd season. Scientology and the money). Also the late Sy Levy 2nd best selling registrar in flag (brining in around 10 million USD per year, his record was 15 millions) said that someone listened in on such conversations. If he wasn't ruthless enough or didn't use the right arguments.
You were so young and I've been watching your videos and I feel like when you were young in school and bullied then when you went to Cali it sounds like right after graduation. I feel horrible that they had you the minute you went to that first 20 buck thing, I remember the minute my daughter graduated the credit card apps were in the mail and she got 2 and one was quite a bit so you being with these take no for an answer fucks!!! Honestly I'm glad your husband came into your life when he did. If they need money why not have the stars give them this money they want? I know, getting to credit card debt. My daughter maxed them right away and not that great of a part time job cause she was in school as well and living with me but I've been disabled and I had zero money to help her but eventually she got them paid off. I'm saying credit card companies are jerks going for young kids and poor you and these freaks. I'm a wicked witch when I see people fucked with!!! I'm just saying I've been watching all your videos and then leah reminis dad ad from Scientology really pisses me off while I'm watching ur vids. He's 69 and I say go on disability fool if your unwell! I am on it . Is this ad shit on purpose?? If so, it's bull! Anyway keep up on vids
Man!
Wow
my god Mr. mango...ur drawer looks just awful
gremoserio I love those drawers, it just needs some furniture polish.
I thought they didnt accept gay guys? This dude is fruiter than fruit punch
#hotmess
are you a bit fixated on Scientology buddy? think emotional pressure, love bombing and dropping contracts on you after this.. I'd say most people with a strong character would even feel uncomfortable rejecting their super friendly offer.. anyone who is easily lead, vulnerable or easily lead, would be taken in... I'd say others would see through it very quickly as a hard emotional pressure based sales technique and the tactic would actually drive people who are pretty together well away... lots of beaming as you say... got a similar treatment after doing on course on a just having a look, no interest in joining and told the course was stand alone and not part of anything else, just a self improvement course... but it included divulging "overts" for future auditing, so clearly that is not a stand alone course, I was told the course was not faith based and I shoudl do it and see if it worked.. but when I finished suddenly that changed and going straight to another course and not testing it, my number given to a recruiter... tour given, lots a flattery, three people focusing on me, one asking in jolly tone "has I said yes yet.. and I was smart so I would of course" , ... totally unethical, and then the contract of belief in things about Scientology I could not sign honestly as i had no where near the knowledge to do so.. even if I wanted to, the 2,5 -5 year contract etc. as you have seen yourself steven... this is after doing one course which I was told had no commitment and was separate .... anyone who's been about, with a bit of world experience would see right through it.. unless in a vulnerable state.. so blatant. The make you feel like a special one thing is common it seems. .. this was a couple of months after I started my course and about a week or two after I finished it.
The material they have, is pretty good advice, lots from other philosophies and religions...
You experience sound very like mine.. it's funny how they downplay the contract, but still play it up... and it is dishonest to sign something you don't believe or can't due to lack of knowledge....
man... I'd say let it go, don't let this experience take up so much of your mind, you have given a warning, done you bit... if you put to much time on it, it will harm you.
All the best from Ireland.
holy fuck man... they really went to town on you.... thank God they don't have many people in their NATIONAL AFFAIRS OFFICE OF IRELAND here in Ireland. These people doing it, what are they thinking? they are aware they are using unethical methods to get you to join... while claiming to be ethical promoter and ethically based in a serious way. How do they square this in their heads.. if they are unethical and know they are running a scam, ok, but I get the feeling they think they are ethical and moral people helping...
The woman recruiter called the head hancho, the leader of the UK operation, sir.. and in a weird way, you don't usually get that hierarchy language except in a military or similar set up...
I've watched a few videos, most seem to be hit pieces with made up stuff, just hopping on the bandwagon of attacking Scientology... your story resonates with mine big time... you got it bigger and "better" though, but after a longer time... they hadn't the same amount of people for me, three people basically, including the head for the UK and Ireland, it was funny, he said he didn't usually talk to those on my level, in a nice way, but I think i was supposed to feel honored lol also, I had done one course... so the stuff on the form was absurd to even present to me... leaving aside the fact I had taken this course on a "I'm just doing the course" understanding.
How can people who believe they are doing good, engage in this? how can they talk about "overts" and honesty, and use dishonest methods?
I don't think they will do well in Dublin, they are setting up an ideal church here, to be done in 8 months, with no basic church here at all. Perhaps I should do a video too... a few non exaggerated experiences by people like yourself and myself, who have nothing to gain from exposing tactics, could help.. but I would not get into covering them beyond my own experience and maybe posting the documents to become staff I have and that other form. .. stuff by celebs and the like is worthless, they get publicity etc for "exposing" them....
You know, the thing that hit me, was their pitch, their tactics were so overtly con tricks and scam oriented, they lacked skill in a con... it was like being in a parody of a recruitment, their pitch, would make people say no.... also, they are too American in style, is seems cheesy and weak, ham fisted... and the video material is awful, from an Irish perspective.. and after we got rid of the catholic church, and church trying to bully will be shown the door... social justice warrior bigots and the LGBT are the new bullies on the block and they go for anyone who doesn't fully support them... they love attacking people, if the LGBT see them as being homophobic (there was a gay man at an important level in their Dublin office) they will go to town on them.. the LGBt, here anyway, is a powerful hate group, and they have had to make up things to rail about and attack people who have non conforming views.... also, the american style will fuck them up, they will seem like Mormons, who are at least open and pretty chilled out, and honest...
... can you PM me, I'll scam my forms so you can see them and we can compare. I think they will be recruiting people too quick, as they did with me, and it won't work... but to insure people are ready for the love bombing and tactics, some leaflets being handed out could do the trick.
I haven't seen many videos like yours, do you know many other people with this experience? call it, the standard scam. There are too many people cashing in n the "attack sceintology bandwagon" saw Hubbard's grandson, a moronic tourist looking for chicks and free beer... their recruiting tactics being shown up, show up the rest... no decent group recruits this way.
I'd stay away from theroux... his jimmy saville connection and now trying to rationalize and sanitize his and others complicity make him a low life... not to be trusted.
He's warning people by giving them knowledge.
You use the word "like" constantly. If you plan to make money on videos then you need to make sure you're watchable.
I think you assumption that he is doing this 'to make money' is an error, and is more of an insight into what your values are, than his. Good day
First of all, I never said there was anything wrong with making money
(that assumption speaks to YOUR values). As a public speaker, I gave him a tip that all speakers learn if they want to keep the attention of an audience. How long do YOU listen to a speaker that says "um..um..um...between words or "like..like..like..? Studies prove people are turned off by those tics.
Secondly he asked for donations to repair his camera and another video about how Scientology bankrupted him and all his extensive debt. He also stated that he would like people to contact him to file a class action suit. So if he wants to be successful in these FINANCIAL or VIDEO endeavors then he needs to learn to speak without the idiocincracies that people find annoying. Common Sense.
this is the second comment ive noticed not to say there isnt more from you if you dont like his videos then why are you watching ?? the last comment you left i couldnt reply as it was taken down before i could why are you so against steven telling his story ?
B Butler obama said like uh uhm uh uhhhh every other word, and hes often remembered as eloquent.
Ive subscribed. Videos are extremely interesting and important. And I love that big old dresser behind you.