Such a shame they really are great vehicles it just shows how bad neglect can really be. I have a desert non running Discovery 2 that's worth saving:) I used to do basement waterproofing in Boston I have never seen a vehicle that bad. You should keep that outside with the windows open and spray the whole inside with water and vinegar or bleach then vacuum after it dries. If you get sick it can be scary because the hospital can't really help
I've seen this four times. All four times where the result of the cars being stuffed into a metal storage container for an extended period of time. Those storage containers have no insulation and very temperature so quickly that moisture builds. I bet if you look into it further you'll find out that that Land Rover was stuffed in a storage container at some point.
Thank you for getting me in gear! 3 weeks ago I was driving my 92 Volvo 240 home (44K miles on the clock) and lost a cylinder. I proceeded home on three and got within 200 feet of my house and it wouldn't go any further. I called my wife and had her come in our 05 Scion xB and push me the remainder of the way! Since then, I haven't had motivation to investigate the problem, since we are retired and I don't really need a second car. I did disconnect the coil wire and turn it over and it sounds like something is wrong with every fourth revolution. Maybe a broken valve spring? Anyway, tomorrow is the day I'm going to investigate the problem. I don't want to part with it as it is my garage queen!
I had a friend who was a Master tech at a big Land Rover dealership back in the 90s. He told me it wasn’t uncommon for someone to get a massive repair bill estimate, they would simply say just give me whatever it’s worth now and have a new vehicle ready for me by the end of the day to pick up! And that’s just what they did! Just like changing a burnt out light bulb to them.
As one of your British subscribers, I appreciate the fact you call it a bonnet. I also appreciate the fact you’re honest with customers. Plenty would have been rubbing their hands together at the prospect of making a lot of money at her expense.
no idea why yanks etc like this... I cant stand Landies etc. absolute poor quality.. built by chimps. disgrace and no wonder our car history for quality over the years has been a laughing joke
I'm in the US so, bonnet makes no sense to me. A bonnet is a head covering. Shouldn't the roof be called the bonnet? Oh well, we are two countries separated by a common language. What really bothers me though, is that I can't understand certain British dialects. I'm not sure which ones but I have no problem with 'Queen's English'.
@@tims8603 As an Englishman, i always chuckle at fanny pack and pants, the joys of language, but as far as the Discovery there working on we have a special word for them when so far gone, we call them scrap or farm trucks if they will run.
I recently rescued a 98 D1 that had also been sitting since 2013. Like this one, it had been immersed in salt water at some point. It cost me 10K Cdn. to fix everything, and that was doing most of the work myself. I ended up gutting the whole interior and cleaning every piece individually, and redoing the headliner. Its been a great rig since, I use it tow my track car or a trailer in the summer, and its unstoppable in snow in the winter. Mine is definitely a keeper. Cheers from the Right Coast of Canada @Car Wizard!
Also have a 98 d1, and bought a couple parts cars as I heard how much trouble these things have. I did the brakes and a few other things when I got it, and after one year it is working great. So fun to drive.
great videos. Had a 2004 Discovery for a number of years. I might be wrong but I think the one in your video is a 2003. The 2004 had a fatter roof rack. Should you get that Disco up and running, just remember when you're filling it up at the pumps, shut the engine off. Otherwise you will run the gas stations underground tanks DRY. I bought it used in 2008 and sold it in 2012 for what I paid for it. Minus of course the $$$$$ maintenance .
Agreed on the year. I bought a 2003 Disco brand new and drove it until it rusted out in the rear. Unless the roof/and or roof rails were replaced this is indeed a 2003 Disco
The Car Wizard is famous on the Internet not just because of his repair abilities but especially because of his Midwest honestly, too. That's what made him successful.
Lmao bitch perfectly knew that the car is unusable. She was going for the good old 50-50 chance of "maybe he's gonna fix it". If you work in retail you know what im talking about
Wizard, the older we get, the faster time gets away from us. At 67, I can be talking to friends and say “remember that time five years ago?” Truth is it was 7,8 or 10. Kudos to to you for speaking to the owner candidly, and allowing her the opportunity to make the best decision. Also, you are indeed a rare breed by graciously scrapping the car, and then sending her the money. Rare breed? I’d say you are a man of character that’s almost extinct today; but there’s hope as you cannot be the only one.😊
We had a similar situation come by the shop once. A lady got a ford cougar from a divorce settlement. Came on flatbed and she asked us look it over. It was the worst car I had seen at that point. They were in court for 3 years and the car sat in high grass with the passenger window down 2”. The smell of mild was nauseating. The under body was just rust, brakes bushings tie rods sun frame all extra crispy. When she got the bad news she just looked at the car and started crying. My boss was at a lose for words. He told he could get running if she really wanted. She looked at my boss and said that her pos of husband made her go through hell to get this car after 3 years. She gave him the keys and the title and said I junk it. My boss called and paid for her cab ride home looked at me and said with a thick Russian accent “ never get married”.
I totally agree with Wizard’s thoughts on repairs. Never let a vehicle sit for long. It’s bad luck when a major component goes bad and it seems like you lose money on both options when deciding repair/replace but parking the vehicle long term rather than making that choice will turn out to be worse in the long run.
As a LR mechanic AND owner myself for over 20 years,i have seen worse and when discussing it with the customer at the end all they had to say was ..........i know,just fix it please. Mindblowing yes,but true story. It happened so many times,i'm not even suprised anymore,but still try to have a serious conversation with the owner and let them see their LR on a ramp to let them see for them selfs what their getting themselfs into. On this D2,the engine was toasted due to lack of coolant and probably overheated severly. And as the Car Wizzard said,that started the decay of this vehicle. Its sad,since it' s a great colour and spec. Respect for being honest to the customer and letting have her get the salvage money.👌👍
Great video,Car Wizard. What a profoundly smart customer. That's a smart woman right there. And it's not weird. The lady got bad advice from a lot of people, and she trusted you. You told her the truth and she believed what you said. This is a great story about a very smart woman and a very honest mechanic. And sadly, a Range Rover that sat in water so long, the water killed it .
Phil, you changed my perspective on this. I was thinking how foolish it was to spend the money to ship the car from NY to KS. Poor advice from a local shop, and/or family members can be very misleading.
I have a Disco 1 I am slowly making solid. Not restoring but fixing whatever needs fixing. I just fixed rust around the alpine windows and unblocked the sun roof drains. They'd leaked and the headliner was shot. Since I live in NZ kits to redo them aren't cheap to get so I redid it in grey polar fleece. Looks good, will be interesting to see how it holds up! I also got the rear wiper washer working again which was strangely satisfying even though it's a minor thing.
I live in upstate NY, and I have a similar story. '06 RRS SC, RF hub went in the middle of winter. Put it in the garage, and at the time I had no heat in the garage, didn't need the car, and figured I would get to it in the spring. Mistake. The salt and moisture literally destroyed the undercarriage. Brakes, control arms, radiator, condenser, brake lines, etc., etc., and yes the interior was completely covered in mold. This was over the span of a winter. I literally stripped the suspension, the braking system, and sanded/blasted the entire frame, etc. rebuilt everything that was salvageable, and purchased the remaining parts. I removed the majority of the interior, ionized the cabin, mold-bombed it, and oddly, used lemon juice on the seats, etc. The good thing was that I had no gas issues, and the car started even with crappy gas and sounded decent considering. Obviously, it has taken months and I am still not finished putting it back together, partially because I just don't have the time, and partially because I have a '14 RRS SC and a '15 RR SC, and partially because everything little thing that needs repair or refurbishing gets attention. I will complete it, however; when I don't know. The upside for me is that I probably have about $2K into it, but I don't even know how many hours. If I was smart I would have had the insurance company write it off as a bio-hazard due to the mold, but it does keep me busy when I have nothing else to do during the long cold winters here.
Parked very close to a coastal location in New York. Even in a garage that stuff will eat unprotected metal. The amount of fuzz on the aluminium and the amount of rust coupled with large exposed panels like the bonnet looking 'scoured' a testament to a vehicle kept near salt water.
It doesnt even to be by the water- anywhere upstate NY will do that to a car- I worked as a mechanic for a bit after grad school and most everything looked like that- but if you need further proof, just check out some of south main's videos.
Your observations about not putting off a repair until some time later (which will always be later than you think) is so wise. There's no reason for anyone to heed my advice, but for whatever it's worth, here it is: if you've got a car, and you're not wealthy, join a credit union and put a bit away each week or month, so you have access to a cheap loan when a situation like that comes around.
@@pops55650 Don't be so sure, around here (NC) junked cars will sit on the lot for a month of two max and then crushed. It's incredibly frustrating to these old Land Rovers with still plenty of good parts left sent to the crusher...
I can concur with time just passing one by. Remember parking my 06 Subaru Impreza due to the infamous Head Gasket issue. It became a true garage queen at that point. Swore I would fix it myself and had even bought all the parts and tools I needed. 7 years later it finally runs. I had a mechanic fix it as I had no time to do it myself. Luckily I have a nice enough garage where it allowed my car to sit for so long without any other issues arising. Started it every other week when I kept it in the garage which always ran perfect until it began to overheat. Do as Mr. Wizard says! Don't sit on repairs! Have it fixed, sell it off or if it's to far from repair, junk it. .
A couple years after my parents bought a secondhand Monte Carlo it had engine trouble. Long story short it needed an engine and transmission rebuild, but so much worse. Apparently it was T-boned and salvaged because the frame was split and never repaired. The engine mounting needed to be repaired as it had warped over time. Beyond the shock of discovering we were driving a death trap we just couldn't afford the list of repairs it needed so we surrendered the title to our mechanic as payment for the little work he had done. 5 years later my grandfather's car was in the shop and our mechanic loaned us the Monte Carlo for 2 weeks. He had invested his time into it and turned it into a nice car. Family members said we should have felt cheated but my family understood the car only had value for someone who could fix it themselves. We actually felt good that he saved the car.
Actually the money spent shipping it to you wasn’t a real waste, you told her the truth and no more money will be wasted on this vehicle. Other shops may have charged her a lot just to get it running and ignore the rest of the problems. Literally could cause her thousands in hospital bills breathing in that mold. Or worse.
Absolutely. Its better to spend 2 grand on the truth and get nothing physical in return, than to spend the same or more on a polished turd that will cost tenfold in the future.
Agreed. She paid for an honest appraisal and got it. No more money wasted after that. Although she could have used Eric O. at South Main Auto who are in NYS
The money spent to ship a car hundreds of miles was absolutely and stupidly a waste. It is so obvious that the car became a goner a long time ago. We'll never know the whole story, but it never should have come down to this to reach a sensible conclusion about this car.
@@hydorah Yep, I was thinking the same and even though I feel Eric O. would have looked it over for her in a fair manner, I seriously doubt he'd have been willing to even look at it because it's a European vehicle as he has stated before he avoids working on them as much as possible.
Oh, this is going on Car Wizard's list of Weird Customer Stories. Car Wizard is a Saint! If I were in his shoes and this nightmare showed up at my shop, I'd have some choice four-letter words for this customer. Especially due to the massive mold issue! Recommendation for the customer.... Call up the nearest junk yard and tell them they can have it, _if they're willing to NOT charge you for hauling it away!_ *Edit:* Called it!
With the mold and severe rust being signs of a flood... along with upstate NY and 2013 date you mentioned I found the following incident: "The heavy rains also pushed streams over their banks in the Adirondacks and caused flooding as far south as Chenango County, north of Binghamton. [...] "When I woke up, l was already in water waist deep," he said Fire officials said there was two to three feet of water on some streets in the village of Herkimer and that emergency crews have rescued at least three people from their flooded homes. There are several reports of flooded basements. " I just hope the other shop that held this vehicle to do what I'm assuming were two minor unnecessary things didn't lead her on and leech money off of her a bit by bit throughout the years. I'd want to throw that thing away too after that. You're a good man for sending her the check. 👍
Honestly, as weird as this whole situation is I actually agree with the customers decision to junk the car. It's just not worth fixing. As you've said before in previous videos, "if you get into a wreck, insurance gives you the value of the car and the rest is lit on fire. You burned all that money!" I agree with that statement, it's not worth it.
@@donc6781 it will live on to help save other Rovers and BMWS that are in need. I believe this one is the same chassis as the BMW X5 but I could be wrong. Either way it will certainly live on to help other cars. A deep steam cleaning and sanitization certainly could make a lot of the interior components reusable again. If you got someone like Larry Kosilla from Ammo NYC to do a quick detail on it he could definitely make it safe to enter at the very least and reduce the health hazard risks for sure.
Huracine Sandy happened in November 2012, there was a lot of flood cars from that in downstate NY. I can totally see her not being sure if previous mechanics were competent enough and you were her last chance, it didn’t work out so car was written off.
The Project Farm videos about rust converters, Fluid Film and truck bed sprays might have saved this from rust, a few minutes every fall to touch up underneath. The newer vehicles have a better dip process, so the slowly failing computer chips are usually more of a problem after 15 years. Especially for some brands that tend to have a lot more electrical errors when scanned after years of use.
In the late 70’s my dad bought us boys a Scout that was rusted like this. Gave us some great experience learning that we didn’t want to become auto mechanics. Some time I wish I still had it, but this brought back so many painful memories.
We owned a 2000MY Discovery 2 here in the UK from 2004 to 2017 with the 2.5L Td5 diesel engine and the R380 5-speed manual box. Great vehicle, and mechanically it was incredibly reliable, but my word it rusted so badly. At 9 years old it needed welding on the rear chassis rails, and not too long after that it needed a new rear quarter chassis. A drooping headlining is par for the course with these, but all of that mould saddens me. What I will say though is that a lot of people would so dearly love a chassis that solid here in the UK, because they're normally far worse than this. Over here, that would be regarded as a solid project vehicle, especially as so many are scrapped with terminal rot, meaning there's plenty of good interiors available. It's a shame it's being scrapped as it'd make a great project for somebody if they had the time - indeed I'd love to have had it because we never got the 4.6L V8.
Thank you Wizard and Mrs. Worked at a Land Rover garage, and fell in love with Defenders. Vehicle from a flood. Ground up rebuild - YIKES Think $2k to ship across the country, get $500 scrap?
That D2 would make an ideal project car for someone looking to uprate one in their spare time.. As for park and forget,i did that when the alternator went on a rare in the UK pick up,i seen the prices of a new alternator and said sod that i'll hunt around for a 2nd hand alternator instead,then couldn't get the bolt out so then it rained like hell and became a next dry day job.. Nearly three years later it was seized solid on the brakes,seized doors etc so it went it's journey. If you have a motor sat like that in the open it doesn't take long for it to get a whole lot worse
I would simply be glad for the reasonable, understanding client. This situation goes really badly more often than not. The forwarding of the funds from salvage is a good gesture. Feel sorry for them too. That transportation was not inexpensive.
Crazy no one looked before deciding to ship it. I had a '95 Discovery. Just sold it. Great rig but lacking comfort. Sold it. Almost bought a Discovery 2 but head gasket worries. Picked up a 2012 LR4 HSE a month ago. Overlanding rig. Great capable rig.
The minute he said the rotors were rusted to the point the wheels were basically locked And mentioned the corrosion under the hood I already knew it was submerged
Not submerged, that's years of sitting in dirt. You can see grass remnants under parts of the suspension. Brakes that look like that won't happen from a flood car. It takes years of rain splatter and moisture.
That's normal corrosion for upstate New York due to the yearly winter salt baths so unless some precautions were taken to mitigate the damage, that's what you end up with after a decade or so.
I had a really weird situation like that but more insane at my shop. Customer came in and the car was in terrible shape. Had been sitting for years, was an 05 with only 30k on it. Car needed a suspension rebuild, four tires, all new light bulbs, quite a bit of wiring work, and more. And the customer called us after we provided the initial quote and asked us to look at MORE stuff to quote. By the end of it, we had a quote for 42,000 dollars, 34,000 of which was a new OEM engine. The customer approved ALL of it, insane.
Honestly surprised by the customer's response, and you're a real standup guy for sending her whatever you get from the scrap yard! Just hope they get rid of the nasty bits themselves first, if it's a self service yard.
I am very pleased that you are sending the customer the junk money for it. Maybe she really just didn't know what else to do and at least she can recover a little of the shipping cost.
I'm always going to watch a D2 video. I've had one for a little over 5 years and I've learned quite a bit about them. It's a shame to see one in this condition. I'd like to know which salvage as I'd like to buy the headlights. I want to retrofit mine with projectors so doing it with an extra set means the vehicle doesn't have to be down while I do all that custom work
Well, if you read the comments Wizard I would agree that this car was parked outside where their long grass or weeds. A window left open or broken and sat for many years. Maybe this lady was paying storage, who knows. She sent it to you because out of site out of mind. Anyway, good of you to refund the scrap payment to her. Very sad situation.
That looks like a Hurricane Sandy vehicle. Date is about right, and with that much mold they had it flooded with something. I've seen quite a few vehicles with 2012-2013 registration stickers and tires and I'm like NOPE.
I've stopped this at 11.44 and have to say here in England that heap of shit would go straight to the scrap yard because that's all it's good for. Maybe have the doors and wings ( fenders) off to sell the rest is complete scrap. I've now watched the full video and I'm happy to say that I was correct! Off you go to the junk yard pronto!
To be fair to her, she probably had no idea that there was so much wrong with it. If she has had previous experience of being ripped off then at least she had peace of mind that an expert has looked at it. Imagine if she had taken it to a local garage and they tried to fix it for a couple of thousand?
Couple thousand what more like 5k to start on the fuel system alone are u serious? Fuel tank Lines Fuel rails All injectors Fuel pump and filter Fuel neck Price those parts alone u will be like holy shit!!! Then u have labor Then all the brakes complete with calipers and lines Then labor now to the engine lol Now to the interior lol This would be 20k easily
Yup 20k and I'm sure British import car parts are 5 times more than a GM product. Labor rates are at 120 bucks an hour . Imagine the labor just to remove the interior, throw out the carpet. Paint the floorboards with a rust proof paint, install new carpet and then pay a specialist to clean with vinegar the leather to remove rest mold (or find an interior from a junkyard). You may run into rusted wiring under the carpet etc. Then you need a whole new exhaust including cat and oxygen sensors. Those two things are the "thousands".
I've got a 98 300TDI and I've had it 15yrs and spent easy £5k keeping on the road, top end rebuild, fuel pump rebuild and £2.5k body and chassis welding only to find £2k of that welding was bodged and covered well (in fact more effort had been put into bodging than the work it would of need to sort it in the first place) Luckily I found out one of my friends was welder that is happy to accept booze, favours and electric money to sort most of the problems and will eventually get round to doing the rest, I only nearly scrapped it when I found out about the £2k welding that needed redoing but the only thing that stopped me was having just paid £700 out for the fuel pump. I love that car and would spend silly money on it if it's repairable as long as the wife doesn't find out.
I bought my 4th one again last December. I used the excuse I didn't have a way of getting a Christmas tree!🤷🏼♂️ Seemed like a logical thing when I bought it?
There is this Land Cruiser about a block from where i work and its been sitting for at least 8 years, i have asked them to sell to me like 3 times and they always say "nope i am going to fix it soon". I now have noticed new rust spots on it, i live near the coast so i know what the sea breeze does to a vehicle, i am not saying this discovery is the case but i hate it when people hold on to cars and let them rust away instead of selling them when they still have a chance to get fixed up and used.
Actually, mold only has the spores when its alive and growing, remove the water source. it dies and or stops growing via airborne spores, although it probably still wouldn't be a good idea to breathe dead mold dust particles.
FYI: last inspected in 2012 (2013 is the year the sticker expires not the year it was issued) In NY we have different colors each year it goes on in a cycle. Red, Blue, Gray, Yellow then it repeats. In NY cars 25 years old and newer must pass OBD2 and safety each year. Safety only for new cars and any car 25 years old or older. The CEL must be off and can only have one monitor pending or not set. Here in NY the air bag and ABS light can be on and you will still pass inspection, again if the CEL is on you FAIL. If your car has aftermarket tint that is too dark you will also fail inspection. This truck will fail for that rust here in NY, that thing is scrap.
Can they fail you for non functioning windows? like if you roll the windows down and pull the relay, and just say "the windows don't work", would that be a way around failing from tint?
@@SaxaphoneMan42 That's one trick you can try to play. If you pull in with the windows down. You can hope that they won't play with the window switch but if they put the windows up and see their tinted you will fail. But now they can't fail you if the windows don't work
With that many restrictions, I would get an out of state UPS mail box (not a PO Box) and register my car from there. Like here in Kansas. You don't even have to show your car to renew, just show your proof of insurance and you're good.
@@goqwertygoThat's one way you could go sometimes, especially in small villages and towns. Not necessarily in New York City. You have to change your registration if your car is in the state for more than 30 days. I know other states have a similar law, so small town police upstate especially in the Adirondacks or on Long Island. Might give you a ticket or try to bust your balls after a while but in a big city like New York City or Buffalo nobody's really going to mess with you.
I wonder if a prison sentence was involved in it sitting for so long. And the owner just got out and found out that a family member parked the car in a pond/river while drunk.
I honestly thought Wizard was going to tell the customer he wouldn't touch and offer to sell it to a salvage yard. I'm pretty sure that's what I would do if I were a mechanic. There just isn't enough vehicle left to start from, and you would be cutting off and drilling out bolts left and right.
Body looks good, wheels will go for money, Wizard can probably get a better salvage price than the customer, so yep scrapping in Kansas is the best option.
This what you would expect to find on most 4x4s when you buy second hand in the UK and Ireland it's due to the weather. We have so much rain and unpredictable wether the cars just rot. Also here in Ireland cars are kept outside all seasons all year round the sheds are used to keep the garden equipment. Its more common to see tractors, quad's and trailers inside.
Depending where in New York State she lives it might have cost her more to recycle the Vehicle then just send it out of state via delivery service and have a shop scrap it for her and get money back. I am happy that you where able to get great content from this Situation. Love your content
That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I live 20 min north of the city and recently scrapped a car, made $500. It was honestly in similar condition (though not quite so bad). It was rusty, didn't run, very moldy interior. They came with a tow truck and a check and just took it away. And the company that did that doesn't appear to have any restrictions on where they pick up cars from.
I remember leaving my old LS400 in my father in law back yard with some other cars for several years when Valvoline Instant Oil Change recommended a transmission flush on my vehicle. Not knowing that I had I closed transmission the Lexus dealership informed me that VIOC ruined my transmission. I took it and parked it for several years until the used transmissions were very affordable. All the other vehicles had mice droppings and mold everywhere in the interior, even the vehicle that had only been sitting for one year but the LS400 had no mold or mice droppings inside. The exhaust had rotted out from sitting in grass but everything else was still good. It started up with just a new battery. Those Lexus LS models were made really really well in the 90’s.
Wizzard you are a very nice person. I knew it was a boat anchor right off and you did too. I didn't pick any of your three scenarios cause I knew you wouldn't touch this turn with a ten foot pitchfork. I love your videos.
So... What kind of treatment would you recommend for that mold? Is there anything you CAN do to get the mold removed or killed to be safe to be around? Would an Ozone fogger do any good or would it be too little too late for that Land Rover?
I'm all about saving cars, but yeah. This one is done. Oddly, my buddy and I have two older Nissans that have sat for much longer that still moved and ran with no interior distress or other odd things. While they didn't run well, they could still be jumped and moved under their own power. (A 90 300ZX and 89 Skyline GT-R).
@@skylined5534 Southeast Pennsylvania! Here it's more what they put on the roads that eat the metal, not just moisture (no salty air either). They even sat on the dirt.
The walk around this truck was a real surprise..... I've never seen rotors so rusty. Looks like they were "Deep Fried"!!! Sad story overall! I had to off load my 2006 Mini.... it started having Weekly problems... Time to GO!!!
That's how creditable of a mechanic he is plus going viral on UA-cam enabled the whole world to discover his shop. Without UA-cam or the internet in general he would probably be only be working on local costumer cars. I wouldn't be surprised if some people try to on a whim move to the witacha area just so they can live near the wizards shop.
Looks like normal New York to me, it's clearly been sitting for some time, but that's what road salt does. You could save the rotors if they're thick and not pitted by cleaning them off both sides with a wire brush on a grinder. That and new pads and they'll wear in pretty quick. Mold is so bad it even ate the music clip for raising the lift. Fun story, my driver is a 1994 G20. I got it in 2021 from a state auction. Usually you have no idea where those vehicles came from but I recognized it, it had spent most of the last 10-12 years in a parking garage basement. Sometimes didn't move for three, four years at a time. All I did was put tires on and change the oil and I've driven it ever since. Some of the parts look crusty like that, but it drives fine. You aught to list it for sale for like $1500, send her $1000 and keep $500. Maybe have Hoovie sell it or something.
Wiz, you need to have potential customers from out of state send you pics, at least one under the hood and one or two inside. Save them the money for shipping a biohazard and/or basketcase all the way to Omega.
reminds me of a car i went to see. the owner told me very positively that he had used it two years ago. after some digging in i found that it hadnt been driven at all for AT LEAST 6 years
David I am glad you really like these vehicles. In Australia they are only purchased by people who want to run around cities and do quick sojourns up north now and again. For serious hard work Landcruisers are the go plus Nissan and some Mitsubishi Pajero models. The Range Rovers are not properly supported in the bush and around the city dealers price gouge to hell on repairs. Not a popular vehicle here in Australia although odd groups of folks seem to love them.
My last Disco 2 was a 2000 TD5 manual on 170k miles and it was in worse condition than this one underneath 😮 It’s still on the road 😂 My current one is a 2003 TD5 Auto that has less the 80k miles on it and has been undersealed to stop the rot 👍🏻🏴
at 10:20 you can see the rear frame rails. This is the first place you have to look. I made that mistake. I'm shocked you cannot see a visible hole in the right side, but I assure you the right rear quarter frame is rusted through. The 1/4 frame is only $500 shipped from the UK. The 30 hrs it took me to install really sucked though.
I was a backyard mechanic in the 1990’s. Someone had a Cadillac that had sat for years. He just wanted me to get the motor to turnover. I tried all the tricks without removing the motor and it would not rotate an inch. I wish I would have removed a head. I still wonder what the cylinders looked like to cause it not to move at all. The moral I learned was don’t let a car sit.
I don't think so. That's what you get when you park a vehicle in a shaded moist area for years. You won't get corrosion on pulleys that bad from a single flood. That rear window was broken for quite some time, that's what caused the interior to mold up.
That’s like a 94 Land Cruiser that showed up at my shop yesterday. Started missing randomly. Engine bay is missing half of its fasteners. Oil everywhere, random side of road repairs. Customer story doesn’t add up, interior is trashed. I regret accepting the tow 😅
The weirdest thing about this is how normal that Disco looks to me! 🙂 Here in northern Scotland most vehicles of that age look like that! Underneath my "daily driver" ('09 plate FL2/LR2) is much worse than that Disco...and you should see my '93 Defender! Also not uncommon here for folks to take their car in for it's annual MOT certification and tell the workshop to scrap it rather than fix it and get it back - its normal practice to completely empty the vehicle of any personal items before sending it for inspection, just in case! Quite right, though, about every job taking twice as long due to a nightmare of broken bolts and rounded nuts!
One of the youtube channels I watch in the UK saw their van left outside in the rain with the hood open. What's worse is this was for 2 weeks and the head was removed and not covered at all so the internals were open to the elements. This tops that at least the entire interior wasn't a bio hazard zone.
I'm guessing it was a tow vehicle for a boat and it got flooded at a slipway. I had a disco 1.Chassis solid but body rot was terrible I replaced it with a disco 2 td5 (V8s are unusual in UK) the body was solid but everything else rotted. I parked it for a couple of weeks and never noticed the obligatory D2 sun roof leak. When I went back the mould had started. Gave the D2 to my brother in law for spares. I saw it last week after it sat in a field for a couple of years. The interior is now its own ecosystem.
I know its missing a catalytic converter. I just stopped caring after the list got to 3 pages long.
Why don't you just send it to different UA-cam'ers and have fun rebuilding it? 👨🔧👩🏼🔧👨🏾🔧🤘👀🤘
Such a shame they really are great vehicles it just shows how bad neglect can really be. I have a desert non running Discovery 2 that's worth saving:) I used to do basement waterproofing in Boston I have never seen a vehicle that bad. You should keep that outside with the windows open and spray the whole inside with water and vinegar or bleach then vacuum after it dries. If you get sick it can be scary because the hospital can't really help
Looks like flood damage and/or lived near an ocean...
I've seen this four times. All four times where the result of the cars being stuffed into a metal storage container for an extended period of time. Those storage containers have no insulation and very temperature so quickly that moisture builds. I bet if you look into it further you'll find out that that Land Rover was stuffed in a storage container at some point.
@@skidrowslasher3632 They have weak axles, ask anyone who made one into a trail rig.
Thank you for getting me in gear! 3 weeks ago I was driving my 92 Volvo 240 home (44K miles on the clock) and lost a cylinder. I proceeded home on three and got within 200 feet of my house and it wouldn't go any further. I called my wife and had her come in our 05 Scion xB and push me the remainder of the way! Since then, I haven't had motivation to investigate the problem, since we are retired and I don't really need a second car. I did disconnect the coil wire and turn it over and it sounds like something is wrong with every fourth revolution. Maybe a broken valve spring? Anyway, tomorrow is the day I'm going to investigate the problem. I don't want to part with it as it is my garage queen!
Hoovie walks in - Slaps roof , How Much?
Yeah he'll buy it lmao 🤣
Now that’s funny!
No he won’t, because he knows wizard won’t work on it.
I JUST BOUGHT THE CHEAPEST LAND ROVER IN THE US
Then ask the wizard to fix it anyway
I had a friend who was a Master tech at a big Land Rover dealership back in the 90s. He told me it wasn’t uncommon for someone to get a massive repair bill estimate, they would simply say just give me whatever it’s worth now and have a new vehicle ready for me by the end of the day to pick up! And that’s just what they did! Just like changing a burnt out light bulb to them.
Fun story and ending.
It's not a hard decision to make when you're looking at a 7 or 10 grand repair bill and start thinking about how that's a good down payment
As one of your British subscribers, I appreciate the fact you call it a bonnet. I also appreciate the fact you’re honest with customers. Plenty would have been rubbing their hands together at the prospect of making a lot of money at her expense.
no idea why yanks etc like this... I cant stand Landies etc. absolute poor quality.. built by chimps. disgrace and no wonder our car history for quality over the years has been a laughing joke
And a trunk would be called a "Boot".
Even in the Caribbean we call it Bonnet
I'm in the US so, bonnet makes no sense to me. A bonnet is a head covering. Shouldn't the roof be called the bonnet? Oh well, we are two countries separated by a common language. What really bothers me though, is that I can't understand certain British dialects. I'm not sure which ones but I have no problem with 'Queen's English'.
@@tims8603 As an Englishman, i always chuckle at fanny pack and pants, the joys of language, but as far as the Discovery there working on we have a special word for them when so far gone, we call them scrap or farm trucks if they will run.
I recently rescued a 98 D1 that had also been sitting since 2013. Like this one, it had been immersed in salt water at some point. It cost me 10K Cdn. to fix everything, and that was doing most of the work myself. I ended up gutting the whole interior and cleaning every piece individually, and redoing the headliner. Its been a great rig since, I use it tow my track car or a trailer in the summer, and its unstoppable in snow in the winter. Mine is definitely a keeper. Cheers from the Right Coast of Canada @Car Wizard!
Also have a 98 d1, and bought a couple parts cars as I heard how much trouble these things have. I did the brakes and a few other things when I got it, and after one year it is working great. So fun to drive.
Nice to hear you intend to forward what you net on salvage back to the owner. This speaks volumes about the integrity of the Omega Auto Clinic.
Very high integrity.
@@rm5902 Almost to a fault. This guy is such a straight shooter he doesn't even need sights.🤣
It's probably going to cost the Wizard to have it junked. There will be NO salvage
@@wickertwm Body panels, glass, lights, lots of things to salvage, just very little in the way of functional or interior.
great videos. Had a 2004 Discovery for a number of years. I might be wrong but I think the one in your video is a 2003. The 2004 had a fatter roof rack. Should you get that Disco up and running, just remember when you're filling it up at the pumps, shut the engine off. Otherwise you will run the gas stations underground tanks DRY.
I bought it used in 2008 and sold it in 2012 for what I paid for it. Minus of course the $$$$$ maintenance .
Agreed on the year. I bought a 2003 Disco brand new and drove it until it rusted out in the rear. Unless the roof/and or roof rails were replaced this is indeed a 2003 Disco
You sending her the salvage money really shows your character. I doubt any other shop would even consider this.
Fr, the Car wizard is one of a kind.
The Car Wizard is famous on the Internet not just because of his repair abilities but especially because of his Midwest honestly, too. That's what made him successful.
Lmao bitch perfectly knew that the car is unusable. She was going for the good old 50-50 chance of "maybe he's gonna fix it". If you work in retail you know what im talking about
I would of sent her flowers too. RIP Land Rover 😂
Wizard, the older we get, the faster time gets away from us. At 67, I can be talking to friends and say “remember that time five years ago?” Truth is it was 7,8 or 10.
Kudos to to you for speaking to the owner candidly, and allowing her the opportunity to make the best decision. Also, you are indeed a rare breed by graciously scrapping the car, and then sending her the money. Rare breed? I’d say you are a man of character that’s almost extinct today; but there’s hope as you cannot be the only one.😊
We had a similar situation come by the shop once. A lady got a ford cougar from a divorce settlement. Came on flatbed and she asked us look it over. It was the worst car I had seen at that point. They were in court for 3 years and the car sat in high grass with the passenger window down 2”. The smell of mild was nauseating. The under body was just rust, brakes bushings tie rods sun frame all extra crispy. When she got the bad news she just looked at the car and started crying. My boss was at a lose for words. He told he could get running if she really wanted. She looked at my boss and said that her pos of husband made her go through hell to get this car after 3 years. She gave him the keys and the title and said I junk it. My boss called and paid for her cab ride home looked at me and said with a thick Russian accent “ never get married”.
W man
Never get married? How about make sure you're marrying the right person instead of rushing into the bedroom? Those NEVER last!
A Ford Cougar of all things, extra damage.
I agree 👍
@@JoDo777 hindsight is always 20/20
I totally agree with Wizard’s thoughts on repairs. Never let a vehicle sit for long. It’s bad luck when a major component goes bad and it seems like you lose money on both options when deciding repair/replace but parking the vehicle long term rather than making that choice will turn out to be worse in the long run.
I'm mostly just glad to hear you understand the dangers of mold.
@Mr. Mackey about as much as your useless comment
My college has mold in dorm rooms and would just paint over it
You know how many people's houses I've went inside and it reeks of mold ?
Mold. Rover
I work under a lot of houses, and people customers truly don’t understand mold.
As a LR mechanic AND owner myself for over 20 years,i have seen worse and when discussing it with the customer at the end all they had to say was ..........i know,just fix it please.
Mindblowing yes,but true story. It happened so many times,i'm not even suprised anymore,but still try to have a serious conversation with the owner and let them see their LR on a ramp to let them see for them selfs what their getting themselfs into.
On this D2,the engine was toasted due to lack of coolant and probably overheated severly. And as the Car Wizzard said,that started the decay of this vehicle. Its sad,since it' s a great colour and spec.
Respect for being honest to the customer and letting have her get the salvage money.👌👍
Great video,Car Wizard.
What a profoundly smart customer. That's a smart woman right there. And it's not weird. The lady got bad advice from a lot of people, and she trusted you. You told her the truth and she believed what you said. This is a great story about a very smart woman and a very honest mechanic. And sadly, a Range Rover that sat in water so long, the water killed it .
Phil, you changed my perspective on this. I was thinking how foolish it was to spend the money to ship the car from NY to KS. Poor advice from a local shop, and/or family members can be very misleading.
Name it aqua. Rover......
Just looking at that interior should tell anyone this vehicle is in very poor condition.
@@petesmitt Actually terrifying if you understand how dangerous mold really is to humans especially when inhaled.
@@petesmitt sounds like she had not seen the car in person for some time so possibly didn't have any idea how bad it had got
I have a Disco 1 I am slowly making solid. Not restoring but fixing whatever needs fixing. I just fixed rust around the alpine windows and unblocked the sun roof drains. They'd leaked and the headliner was shot. Since I live in NZ kits to redo them aren't cheap to get so I redid it in grey polar fleece. Looks good, will be interesting to see how it holds up! I also got the rear wiper washer working again which was strangely satisfying even though it's a minor thing.
I’m sure that, if the owner would put it on B.A.T. listed as a “Silver Jubilee Special Edition” (1 of 1), Hoovie would snap it up!
I live in upstate NY, and I have a similar story. '06 RRS SC, RF hub went in the middle of winter. Put it in the garage, and at the time I had no heat in the garage, didn't need the car, and figured I would get to it in the spring. Mistake. The salt and moisture literally destroyed the undercarriage. Brakes, control arms, radiator, condenser, brake lines, etc., etc., and yes the interior was completely covered in mold. This was over the span of a winter. I literally stripped the suspension, the braking system, and sanded/blasted the entire frame, etc. rebuilt everything that was salvageable, and purchased the remaining parts. I removed the majority of the interior, ionized the cabin, mold-bombed it, and oddly, used lemon juice on the seats, etc. The good thing was that I had no gas issues, and the car started even with crappy gas and sounded decent considering. Obviously, it has taken months and I am still not finished putting it back together, partially because I just don't have the time, and partially because I have a '14 RRS SC and a '15 RR SC, and partially because everything little thing that needs repair or refurbishing gets attention. I will complete it, however; when I don't know. The upside for me is that I probably have about $2K into it, but I don't even know how many hours. If I was smart I would have had the insurance company write it off as a bio-hazard due to the mold, but it does keep me busy when I have nothing else to do during the long cold winters here.
My guess its a flood vehicle that sat. The rust, mold, and corrosion definitely wouldn't be that bad if it sat for 10 years
Sitting outside in grass or gravel with a broken window will definitely do this over 10 years.
Salt from the road crews in the winters does that to vehicles. Indiana (where I grew up) has the same issues.
Parked very close to a coastal location in New York. Even in a garage that stuff will eat unprotected metal. The amount of fuzz on the aluminium and the amount of rust coupled with large exposed panels like the bonnet looking 'scoured' a testament to a vehicle kept near salt water.
It doesnt even to be by the water- anywhere upstate NY will do that to a car- I worked as a mechanic for a bit after grad school and most everything looked like that- but if you need further proof, just check out some of south main's videos.
@@jerzy4151
I'm just going on what I've seen when living in coastal areas, salt water and bad weather mixed are brutal!
Your observations about not putting off a repair until some time later (which will always be later than you think) is so wise.
There's no reason for anyone to heed my advice, but for whatever it's worth, here it is: if you've got a car, and you're not wealthy, join a credit union and put a bit away each week or month, so you have access to a cheap loan when a situation like that comes around.
Panels and wheels look straight and would be useful for other D2 owners.
I’m sure the junk yard will try to part it out before crushing
@@pops55650
Don't be so sure, around here (NC) junked cars will sit on the lot for a month of two max and then crushed. It's incredibly frustrating to these old Land Rovers with still plenty of good parts left sent to the crusher...
@@x-man4702 Don't worry, Car Wizard is sending it to a Land Rover exclusive salvage yard and so they will take care of it.
I can concur with time just passing one by. Remember parking my 06 Subaru Impreza due to the infamous Head Gasket issue. It became a true garage queen at that point. Swore I would fix it myself and had even bought all the parts and tools I needed. 7 years later it finally runs. I had a mechanic fix it as I had no time to do it myself. Luckily I have a nice enough garage where it allowed my car to sit for so long without any other issues arising. Started it every other week when I kept it in the garage which always ran perfect until it began to overheat. Do as Mr. Wizard says! Don't sit on repairs! Have it fixed, sell it off or if it's to far from repair, junk it. .
She needed confirmation from a trusted shop that it is not worth fixing.
A couple years after my parents bought a secondhand Monte Carlo it had engine trouble. Long story short it needed an engine and transmission rebuild, but so much worse. Apparently it was T-boned and salvaged because the frame was split and never repaired. The engine mounting needed to be repaired as it had warped over time. Beyond the shock of discovering we were driving a death trap we just couldn't afford the list of repairs it needed so we surrendered the title to our mechanic as payment for the little work he had done.
5 years later my grandfather's car was in the shop and our mechanic loaned us the Monte Carlo for 2 weeks. He had invested his time into it and turned it into a nice car. Family members said we should have felt cheated but my family understood the car only had value for someone who could fix it themselves. We actually felt good that he saved the car.
Actually the money spent shipping it to you wasn’t a real waste, you told her the truth and no more money will be wasted on this vehicle. Other shops may have charged her a lot just to get it running and ignore the rest of the problems. Literally could cause her thousands in hospital bills breathing in that mold. Or worse.
Absolutely. Its better to spend 2 grand on the truth and get nothing physical in return, than to spend the same or more on a polished turd that will cost tenfold in the future.
Agreed. She paid for an honest appraisal and got it. No more money wasted after that. Although she could have used Eric O. at South Main Auto who are in NYS
The money spent to ship a car hundreds of miles was absolutely and stupidly a waste. It is so obvious that the car became a goner a long time ago. We'll never know the whole story, but it never should have come down to this to reach a sensible conclusion about this car.
@@hydorah Yep, I was thinking the same and even though I feel Eric O. would have looked it over for her in a fair manner, I seriously doubt he'd have been willing to even look at it because it's a European vehicle as he has stated before he avoids working on them as much as possible.
There will be some half decent bits and pieces that can be salvaged but it's so sad to see a lovely Disco going well before it's time. 🙁
The countryside is littered with dead discos.
Oh, this is going on Car Wizard's list of Weird Customer Stories.
Car Wizard is a Saint! If I were in his shoes and this nightmare showed up at my shop, I'd have some choice four-letter words for this customer. Especially due to the massive mold issue! Recommendation for the customer.... Call up the nearest junk yard and tell them they can have it, _if they're willing to NOT charge you for hauling it away!_
*Edit:* Called it!
You should gift it to Hoovie and let him pay you to fix it!!! 👀
With the mold and severe rust being signs of a flood... along with upstate NY and 2013 date you mentioned I found the following incident:
"The heavy rains also pushed streams over their banks in the Adirondacks and caused flooding as far south as Chenango County, north of Binghamton.
[...]
"When I woke up, l was already in water waist deep," he said
Fire officials said there was two to three feet of water on some streets in the village of Herkimer and that emergency crews have rescued at least three people from their flooded homes. There are several reports of flooded basements. "
I just hope the other shop that held this vehicle to do what I'm assuming were two minor unnecessary things didn't lead her on and leech money off of her a bit by bit throughout the years.
I'd want to throw that thing away too after that. You're a good man for sending her the check. 👍
Honestly, as weird as this whole situation is I actually agree with the customers decision to junk the car. It's just not worth fixing. As you've said before in previous videos, "if you get into a wreck, insurance gives you the value of the car and the rest is lit on fire. You burned all that money!" I agree with that statement, it's not worth it.
It’s literally the Only decision that makes sense. I’m surprised the Wizard didn’t refuse to work on it, it ready for the junk yard
@@donc6781 it will live on to help save other Rovers and BMWS that are in need. I believe this one is the same chassis as the BMW X5 but I could be wrong. Either way it will certainly live on to help other cars. A deep steam cleaning and sanitization certainly could make a lot of the interior components reusable again. If you got someone like Larry Kosilla from Ammo NYC to do a quick detail on it he could definitely make it safe to enter at the very least and reduce the health hazard risks for sure.
@@mds2465 that was the first gen L322 Range Rover (2002-2005) that was mostly an X5 under the skin.
@@kraignadjkovic5494 far from "mostly"-- but they did share the engine.
Huracine Sandy happened in November 2012, there was a lot of flood cars from that in downstate NY.
I can totally see her not being sure if previous mechanics were competent enough and you were her last chance, it didn’t work out so car was written off.
The Project Farm videos about rust converters, Fluid Film and truck bed sprays might have saved this from rust, a few minutes every fall to touch up underneath. The newer vehicles have a better dip process, so the slowly failing computer chips are usually more of a problem after 15 years. Especially for some brands that tend to have a lot more electrical errors when scanned after years of use.
Fluid film is awesome. It saves you thousands of dollars.
Fluid film and cosmoline based undercarriage oils are great products.
Salted roads and non galvanized steel. Chipsets and limp home mode.
Both are great methods of inbuilt obsolescence.
In the late 70’s my dad bought us boys a Scout that was rusted like this. Gave us some great experience learning that we didn’t want to become auto mechanics. Some time I wish I still had it, but this brought back so many painful memories.
We owned a 2000MY Discovery 2 here in the UK from 2004 to 2017 with the 2.5L Td5 diesel engine and the R380 5-speed manual box. Great vehicle, and mechanically it was incredibly reliable, but my word it rusted so badly. At 9 years old it needed welding on the rear chassis rails, and not too long after that it needed a new rear quarter chassis. A drooping headlining is par for the course with these, but all of that mould saddens me.
What I will say though is that a lot of people would so dearly love a chassis that solid here in the UK, because they're normally far worse than this. Over here, that would be regarded as a solid project vehicle, especially as so many are scrapped with terminal rot, meaning there's plenty of good interiors available. It's a shame it's being scrapped as it'd make a great project for somebody if they had the time - indeed I'd love to have had it because we never got the 4.6L V8.
Thank you Wizard and Mrs. Worked at a Land Rover garage, and fell in love with Defenders. Vehicle from a flood. Ground up rebuild - YIKES
Think $2k to ship across the country, get $500 scrap?
That D2 would make an ideal project car for someone looking to uprate one in their spare time..
As for park and forget,i did that when the alternator went on a rare in the UK pick up,i seen the prices of a new alternator and said sod that i'll hunt around for a 2nd hand alternator instead,then couldn't get the bolt out so then it rained like hell and became a next dry day job..
Nearly three years later it was seized solid on the brakes,seized doors etc so it went it's journey.
If you have a motor sat like that in the open it doesn't take long for it to get a whole lot worse
Maybe turn it into a dedicated mud plugging rig!
A ”No start issue” is beyond an understatement.
I would simply be glad for the reasonable, understanding client. This situation goes really badly more often than not.
The forwarding of the funds from salvage is a good gesture. Feel sorry for them too. That transportation was not inexpensive.
A guess? The customer pretty much anticipated this outcome and will use any salvage proceeds to offset her shipping costs.
Crazy no one looked before deciding to ship it. I had a '95 Discovery. Just sold it. Great rig but lacking comfort. Sold it. Almost bought a Discovery 2 but head gasket worries. Picked up a 2012 LR4 HSE a month ago. Overlanding rig. Great capable rig.
The minute he said the rotors were rusted to the point the wheels were basically locked And mentioned the corrosion under the hood I already knew it was submerged
Not submerged, that's years of sitting in dirt. You can see grass remnants under parts of the suspension.
Brakes that look like that won't happen from a flood car. It takes years of rain splatter and moisture.
@@volvo09 Let me just say it was exposed to a hell of a lot of water/moisture over a significant time…. whilst unattended
@@JDMHaze absolutely
That's normal corrosion for upstate New York due to the yearly winter salt baths so unless some precautions were taken to mitigate the damage, that's what you end up with after a decade or so.
Must have come over from the UK towed behind a submarine.
I had a really weird situation like that but more insane at my shop. Customer came in and the car was in terrible shape. Had been sitting for years, was an 05 with only 30k on it. Car needed a suspension rebuild, four tires, all new light bulbs, quite a bit of wiring work, and more. And the customer called us after we provided the initial quote and asked us to look at MORE stuff to quote. By the end of it, we had a quote for 42,000 dollars, 34,000 of which was a new OEM engine. The customer approved ALL of it, insane.
Honestly surprised by the customer's response, and you're a real standup guy for sending her whatever you get from the scrap yard!
Just hope they get rid of the nasty bits themselves first, if it's a self service yard.
I was ranking the probabilities in in the same order as presented. I was surprised it was C.
@@russellhltn1396 It wasn’t C at all. The answer wasn’t in the 3 possibilities
I am very pleased that you are sending the customer the junk money for it. Maybe she really just didn't know what else to do and at least she can recover a little of the shipping cost.
I'm always going to watch a D2 video. I've had one for a little over 5 years and I've learned quite a bit about them. It's a shame to see one in this condition. I'd like to know which salvage as I'd like to buy the headlights. I want to retrofit mine with projectors so doing it with an extra set means the vehicle doesn't have to be down while I do all that custom work
Well, if you read the comments Wizard I would agree that this car was parked outside where their long grass or weeds. A window left open or broken and sat for many years. Maybe this lady was paying storage, who knows. She sent it to you because out of site out of mind. Anyway, good of you to refund the scrap payment to her. Very sad situation.
That looks like a Hurricane Sandy vehicle. Date is about right, and with that much mold they had it flooded with something. I've seen quite a few vehicles with 2012-2013 registration stickers and tires and I'm like NOPE.
I've stopped this at 11.44 and have to say here in England that heap of shit would go straight to the scrap yard because that's all it's good for. Maybe have the doors and wings ( fenders) off to sell the rest is complete scrap.
I've now watched the full video and I'm happy to say that I was correct! Off you go to the junk yard pronto!
To be fair to her, she probably had no idea that there was so much wrong with it. If she has had previous experience of being ripped off then at least she had peace of mind that an expert has looked at it. Imagine if she had taken it to a local garage and they tried to fix it for a couple of thousand?
Couple thousand what more like 5k to start on the fuel system alone are u serious?
Fuel tank
Lines
Fuel rails
All injectors
Fuel pump and filter
Fuel neck
Price those parts alone u will be like holy shit!!!
Then u have labor
Then all the brakes complete with calipers and lines
Then labor now to the engine lol
Now to the interior lol
This would be 20k easily
Yup 20k and I'm sure British import car parts are 5 times more than a GM product. Labor rates are at 120 bucks an hour . Imagine the labor just to remove the interior, throw out the carpet. Paint the floorboards with a rust proof paint, install new carpet and then pay a specialist to clean with vinegar the leather to remove rest mold (or find an interior from a junkyard). You may run into rusted wiring under the carpet etc. Then you need a whole new exhaust including cat and oxygen sensors. Those two things are the "thousands".
@@cbruno12180 I feel like 20k is lowballing it. If the rust is that bad in the engine bay, we could be talking frame replacement/reinforcement.
You missed the missing exhaust pipes, probably cats. Also probably a rusted out chassis around the rear wheel arches. SCRAP!
I've got a 98 300TDI and I've had it 15yrs and spent easy £5k keeping on the road, top end rebuild, fuel pump rebuild and £2.5k body and chassis welding only to find £2k of that welding was bodged and covered well (in fact more effort had been put into bodging than the work it would of need to sort it in the first place) Luckily I found out one of my friends was welder that is happy to accept booze, favours and electric money to sort most of the problems and will eventually get round to doing the rest, I only nearly scrapped it when I found out about the £2k welding that needed redoing but the only thing that stopped me was having just paid £700 out for the fuel pump.
I love that car and would spend silly money on it if it's repairable as long as the wife doesn't find out.
Mate that's mint in the UK for Discovery 2 !
Simplest things to work on in td5 guise,love them! Just sold mine and miss it
I bought my 4th one again last December. I used the excuse I didn't have a way of getting a Christmas tree!🤷🏼♂️ Seemed like a logical thing when I bought it?
There is this Land Cruiser about a block from where i work and its been sitting for at least 8 years, i have asked them to sell to me like 3 times and they always say "nope i am going to fix it soon". I now have noticed new rust spots on it, i live near the coast so i know what the sea breeze does to a vehicle, i am not saying this discovery is the case but i hate it when people hold on to cars and let them rust away instead of selling them when they still have a chance to get fixed up and used.
I'm surprised you didn't notice the drivers side catalytic converter has been cut off.
Yep, stuck out like a sore thumb! But then it was least of problems i would say.
a lot of his viewers don't know you can just cut those things off and he doesn't want to be the way they found out
Actually, mold only has the spores when its alive and growing, remove the water source. it dies and or stops growing via airborne spores, although it probably still wouldn't be a good idea to breathe dead mold dust particles.
FYI: last inspected in 2012 (2013 is the year the sticker expires not the year it was issued) In NY we have different colors each year it goes on in a cycle. Red, Blue, Gray, Yellow then it repeats. In NY cars 25 years old and newer must pass OBD2 and safety each year. Safety only for new cars and any car 25 years old or older. The CEL must be off and can only have one monitor pending or not set. Here in NY the air bag and ABS light can be on and you will still pass inspection, again if the CEL is on you FAIL. If your car has aftermarket tint that is too dark you will also fail inspection. This truck will fail for that rust here in NY, that thing is scrap.
Can they fail you for non functioning windows? like if you roll the windows down and pull the relay, and just say "the windows don't work", would that be a way around failing from tint?
@@SaxaphoneMan42 That's one trick you can try to play. If you pull in with the windows down. You can hope that they won't play with the window switch but if they put the windows up and see their tinted you will fail. But now they can't fail you if the windows don't work
With that many restrictions, I would get an out of state UPS mail box (not a PO Box) and register my car from there. Like here in Kansas. You don't even have to show your car to renew, just show your proof of insurance and you're good.
@@goqwertygoThat's one way you could go sometimes, especially in small villages and towns. Not necessarily in New York City. You have to change your registration if your car is in the state for more than 30 days. I know other states have a similar law, so small town police upstate especially in the Adirondacks or on Long Island. Might give you a ticket or try to bust your balls after a while but in a big city like New York City or Buffalo nobody's really going to mess with you.
@@goqwertygo not worth it , it's still gonna cost you so might as well make the repair and enjoy a functional car
I wonder if a prison sentence was involved in it sitting for so long. And the owner just got out and found out that a family member parked the car in a pond/river while drunk.
Honesty is the hardest thing for people to accept! Keep up the good work
I honestly thought Wizard was going to tell the customer he wouldn't touch and offer to sell it to a salvage yard. I'm pretty sure that's what I would do if I were a mechanic. There just isn't enough vehicle left to start from, and you would be cutting off and drilling out bolts left and right.
Yeah you'd have to want to fix that specific one and get a donor car, and in this situation the donor would be the one worth keeping.
Complete waste, off to the junk yard
Body looks good, wheels will go for money, Wizard can probably get a better salvage price than the customer, so yep scrapping in Kansas is the best option.
This what you would expect to find on most 4x4s when you buy second hand in the UK and Ireland it's due to the weather. We have so much rain and unpredictable wether the cars just rot. Also here in Ireland cars are kept outside all seasons all year round the sheds are used to keep the garden equipment. Its more common to see tractors, quad's and trailers inside.
Depending where in New York State she lives it might have cost her more to recycle the Vehicle then just send it out of state via delivery service and have a shop scrap it for her and get money back. I am happy that you where able to get great content from this Situation. Love your content
That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I live 20 min north of the city and recently scrapped a car, made $500. It was honestly in similar condition (though not quite so bad). It was rusty, didn't run, very moldy interior. They came with a tow truck and a check and just took it away. And the company that did that doesn't appear to have any restrictions on where they pick up cars from.
@@ericg7044 remember when you guys crushed all those perfectly good cars? good times
Poor truck just needs a little love. That mold will wash off. I have a 95 and love it. Been wanting an 04 too!
At 9:58 you can see half of the exhaust is missing... How did you not see that 😁
Probably the camera blocking it
Noticed that too!
So much wrong, i stopped caring
The cats were gone
@@CarWizard 😂😂
10:10 I noticed a missing converter also....was it parked at a ocean side parking lot, for a time...
Here in NY they apply liquid rust to our road surfaces every winter. The results are like hydrochloric acid. Everything just dissintegrates
Gotta look out for those car dealers and car company shareholders...
I remember leaving my old LS400 in my father in law back yard with some other cars for several years when Valvoline Instant Oil Change recommended a transmission flush on my vehicle. Not knowing that I had I closed transmission the Lexus dealership informed me that VIOC ruined my transmission. I took it and parked it for several years until the used transmissions were very affordable. All the other vehicles had mice droppings and mold everywhere in the interior, even the vehicle that had only been sitting for one year but the LS400 had no mold or mice droppings inside. The exhaust had rotted out from sitting in grass but everything else was still good. It started up with just a new battery. Those Lexus LS models were made really really well in the 90’s.
Looks like someone stole a cat off it too
I've had D2's for the last 17 years, love them!
Nice parts car, keep the center lock, axles, body panels, and usable trim
Mold aside, this is a great project car! And please don't junk it, the parts can be used to save other classic Land Rovers!
You probably can buy the parts at the salvage yard.
This scenario had me thinking that this was a prank on you set up by Tyler!!! I do feel bad for the lady who owned this pile!!! 👍👍🙂
I was going to say this feels like a expensive trolling. How much did it cost to ship that POS from NY ?
Wizzard you are a very nice person. I knew it was a boat anchor right off and you did too. I didn't pick any of your three scenarios cause I knew you wouldn't touch this turn with a ten foot pitchfork. I love your videos.
At least the rust is solid.
So... What kind of treatment would you recommend for that mold? Is there anything you CAN do to get the mold removed or killed to be safe to be around? Would an Ozone fogger do any good or would it be too little too late for that Land Rover?
I'm all about saving cars, but yeah. This one is done. Oddly, my buddy and I have two older Nissans that have sat for much longer that still moved and ran with no interior distress or other odd things. While they didn't run well, they could still be jumped and moved under their own power. (A 90 300ZX and 89 Skyline GT-R).
You must live somewhere inland and warm or those cars would have a lot of extra ventilation by now.
@@skylined5534 Southeast Pennsylvania! Here it's more what they put on the roads that eat the metal, not just moisture (no salty air either). They even sat on the dirt.
I bought an 03 Disco 2 recently and pit could be an identical twin to this one. And yet, I love it so much.
You should offer that to Hoovie and see if he takes it.
I bet he's already on his way with a stack of cash.
If it had a Mercedes badge on it Hoovie might try to save it.
I imagine the cost to ship from New York to Kansas has got to be a good part of the value of the car.
Actually her response was the only reasonable one!
The walk around this truck was a real surprise..... I've never seen rotors so rusty. Looks like they were "Deep Fried"!!! Sad story overall! I had to off load my 2006 Mini.... it started having Weekly problems... Time to GO!!!
Someone really paid to ship that.
That's how creditable of a mechanic he is plus going viral on UA-cam enabled the whole world to discover his shop.
Without UA-cam or the internet in general he would probably be only be working on local costumer cars.
I wouldn't be surprised if some people try to on a whim move to the witacha area just so they can live near the wizards shop.
Looks like normal New York to me, it's clearly been sitting for some time, but that's what road salt does.
You could save the rotors if they're thick and not pitted by cleaning them off both sides with a wire brush on a grinder. That and new pads and they'll wear in pretty quick.
Mold is so bad it even ate the music clip for raising the lift.
Fun story, my driver is a 1994 G20. I got it in 2021 from a state auction. Usually you have no idea where those vehicles came from but I recognized it, it had spent most of the last 10-12 years in a parking garage basement. Sometimes didn't move for three, four years at a time. All I did was put tires on and change the oil and I've driven it ever since. Some of the parts look crusty like that, but it drives fine.
You aught to list it for sale for like $1500, send her $1000 and keep $500. Maybe have Hoovie sell it or something.
Non starting issue.
The issue is its not driven for 10 years 🤣
Understatement of the year!
Wiz, you need to have potential customers from out of state send you pics, at least one under the hood and one or two inside. Save them the money for shipping a biohazard and/or basketcase all the way to Omega.
Seems like it spent tome time in the water.
I'd even say some time in the ocean
Or parked on grass.
Nope.. you don't see that in a regular car... very strange...in fact is very unreliable cars
reminds me of a car i went to see. the owner told me very positively that he had used it two years ago. after some digging in i found that it hadnt been driven at all for AT LEAST 6 years
Weirded-out Wizard...maybe you can salvage parts like the door handles, side-view mirrors, etc.?
That’s a 2003 Discovery, the 2004 had one year only fat roof bars, unless the owners swapped them for older ones, very unlikely though
You should sell it to Hoovie. ;O)
David I am glad you really like these vehicles. In Australia they are only purchased by people who want to run around cities and do quick sojourns up north now and again. For serious hard work Landcruisers are the go plus Nissan and some Mitsubishi Pajero models. The Range Rovers are not properly supported in the bush and around the city dealers price gouge to hell on repairs. Not a popular vehicle here in Australia although odd groups of folks seem to love them.
My last Disco 2 was a 2000 TD5 manual on 170k miles and it was in worse condition than this one underneath 😮 It’s still on the road 😂 My current one is a 2003 TD5 Auto that has less the 80k miles on it and has been undersealed to stop the rot 👍🏻🏴
at 10:20 you can see the rear frame rails. This is the first place you have to look. I made that mistake. I'm shocked you cannot see a visible hole in the right side, but I assure you the right rear quarter frame is rusted through. The 1/4 frame is only $500 shipped from the UK. The 30 hrs it took me to install really sucked though.
it looked like it was missing one of the catalytic converters
I was a backyard mechanic in the 1990’s. Someone had a Cadillac that had sat for years. He just wanted me to get the motor to turnover. I tried all the tricks without removing the motor and it would not rotate an inch.
I wish I would have removed a head. I still wonder what the cylinders looked like to cause it not to move at all. The moral I learned was don’t let a car sit.
That LR was under water, period.
I don't think so. That's what you get when you park a vehicle in a shaded moist area for years. You won't get corrosion on pulleys that bad from a single flood.
That rear window was broken for quite some time, that's what caused the interior to mold up.
nope... just in NY..PA is just as bad..salted winter roads
The Discovery 2 has to be one of my all time favorite looking vehicles
Rolling Scrap Metal!! Aka Land Rover Discovery
That’s like a 94 Land Cruiser that showed up at my shop yesterday. Started missing randomly. Engine bay is missing half of its fasteners. Oil everywhere, random side of road repairs.
Customer story doesn’t add up, interior is trashed.
I regret accepting the tow 😅
The weirdest thing about this is how normal that Disco looks to me! 🙂 Here in northern Scotland most vehicles of that age look like that! Underneath my "daily driver" ('09 plate FL2/LR2) is much worse than that Disco...and you should see my '93 Defender! Also not uncommon here for folks to take their car in for it's annual MOT certification and tell the workshop to scrap it rather than fix it and get it back - its normal practice to completely empty the vehicle of any personal items before sending it for inspection, just in case! Quite right, though, about every job taking twice as long due to a nightmare of broken bolts and rounded nuts!
I'm driving into Newton, rolling by the Wizards shop. Listening to this video, I look over and there's the Land Rover.
One of the youtube channels I watch in the UK saw their van left outside in the rain with the hood open. What's worse is this was for 2 weeks and the head was removed and not covered at all so the internals were open to the elements. This tops that at least the entire interior wasn't a bio hazard zone.
I'm guessing it was a tow vehicle for a boat and it got flooded at a slipway.
I had a disco 1.Chassis solid but body rot was terrible I replaced it with a disco 2 td5 (V8s are unusual in UK) the body was solid but everything else rotted. I parked it for a couple of weeks and never noticed the obligatory D2 sun roof leak. When I went back the mould had started. Gave the D2 to my brother in law for spares. I saw it last week after it sat in a field for a couple of years. The interior is now its own ecosystem.