I'm going to save this Discovery 2 before it TOTALLY Melts Down!

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  • @stealthg35infiniti94
    @stealthg35infiniti94 10 місяців тому +319

    Being a professional Electronic Technician, I'm pretty sure I know what happened. The fuse would blow, so the customer kept putting a higher and higher amp fuse to make it stop. Well, he finally put a high enough fuse that exceeded the amperage what the circuit can carry. The wire is now the weakest point and will melt taking out neighboring wires. The moral of the story: If you blow a fuse, find out WHY it blew. Don't be stupid and keep putting more fuses in, otherwise you may end up like this guy.

    • @Flies2FLL
      @Flies2FLL 10 місяців тому +44

      Did you know in aviation, we are NOT allowed to reset a tripped circuit breaker? Unless this is a safety of flight item, you leave it tripped and write it up on the ground.
      These devices exist for a reason....

    • @ChrisPatrick-q6k
      @ChrisPatrick-q6k 10 місяців тому +11

      Agreed, unless you're in the very rare situation where the original spec underestimated the resistance. Chucking in a higher amp fuse can even cause a fire.

    • @abarratt8869
      @abarratt8869 10 місяців тому +8

      Indeed so. For added emphasis - as @stealthg35infiniti94 says, find out why the fuse blew! Don't replace it with a bigger fuse, don't guess or bodge it.
      If you know enough to be able to properly diagnose an electrical fault, go ahead and do so. If you're guessing, stop, and get a professional to have a look at it. If you don't know what a multi meter is, you're probably going to need someone else to take a look at it.

    • @johngaither9263
      @johngaither9263 10 місяців тому +7

      An electronic professional should know a direct short should blow any amperage fuse instantly.

    • @Jimmyky77
      @Jimmyky77 10 місяців тому +1

      Maybe it was a fusable link that shorted out and melted

  • @thatguy6111
    @thatguy6111 10 місяців тому +86

    Having had a Disco 2 get under my skin I understand the customers decision. There are land rovers and then there is ”My Land Rover.” And they are not the same thing.

    • @andresboza8285
      @andresboza8285 10 місяців тому +5

      Exactly! That ownership feeling. This is my car! All those miles shown in the odometer have been driven by me.

    • @abdelhassand
      @abdelhassand 10 місяців тому

      hear, hear!!

    • @sotirislabrou5058
      @sotirislabrou5058 10 місяців тому +2

      On top of that, who can guarantee that this cannot happen in a similarly aged car? Not to mention that this is not 'your' car and you can't really be sure that is maintained as yours.

    • @frankzappa3834
      @frankzappa3834 10 місяців тому +2

      My Dad is the same way. Single owner and less than 100k miles. He will never own another truck.

    • @matth4069
      @matth4069 10 місяців тому +1

      100% correct

  • @arriagada1957
    @arriagada1957 10 місяців тому +6

    Scotty kilmer said not to buy

  • @InsideOfMyOwnMind
    @InsideOfMyOwnMind 10 місяців тому +213

    A British car with electrical problems? Never happens.😂

    • @jomaoliveira7949
      @jomaoliveira7949 10 місяців тому +19

      Prince of Darkness vibes😅

    • @clydedoris5002
      @clydedoris5002 10 місяців тому +12

      They never leak oil either (because they don't work)

    • @jomaoliveira7949
      @jomaoliveira7949 10 місяців тому +17

      @@clydedoris5002 oil leaks are auto rustpoofing technology

    • @DirkDeadeye_
      @DirkDeadeye_ 10 місяців тому +8

      Absolutely unheard of. What is this nonsense! 😂😊

    • @ChrisPatrick-q6k
      @ChrisPatrick-q6k 10 місяців тому

      Hey don't be so disrespectful about our sxxt cars!!!!😂
      You know it was the unions and Margaret Thatcher that destroyed our car industry. There were some very good designs, but greed, corruption and management incompetence wrecked it all.

  • @waterzap99
    @waterzap99 10 місяців тому +20

    A new defender is $100k. Shops are going to do well for the next few years. $5000 repair vs new truck is not even a comparison anymore.

    • @rafaeloreirorodriguez5278
      @rafaeloreirorodriguez5278 5 місяців тому

      That is why I maintain my old school defender 300 tdi black series actually those and a few other limited editions pre ford era in great conditions are actually more expensive than a brand new defender. The good thing is that 200 and 300 tdi are sturdy and quite reliable engines only downside is that are pretty agricultural almost a tractor.

  • @alexm1736
    @alexm1736 10 місяців тому +16

    If the customer would not fiddle with the fuse (im sure he installed biger fuse) which then melted there wouldn't be wires melted that far and to that level. The fuse blows for a reason. If you put the same fuse and it goes that means there is something real wrong. The customer did make things worse.

    • @matth4069
      @matth4069 10 місяців тому

      Funny enough the power wires going to the HVAC fan in these are known to heat up and burn at the butt connectors completely stock, especially when owners don't maintain the filter strip and it withers away, letting leaves and all kinds of trash fall into the blower, causing it to run with restriction and heat the wires up even more. I epoxied a metal screen just behind the filter strip on both my Discos to really prevent anything from entering.

  • @mongo64071
    @mongo64071 10 місяців тому +5

    Wow. That’s weird (not!) A British car with a broken electrical system. I can’t imagine that this is even worth $3k. I would have junked it. And you still haven’t even found out why it melted or how to prevent it from happening again. I would never trust this truck again. I’d be driving with a fire extinguisher next to me even after the repair.

    • @neildean7515
      @neildean7515 10 місяців тому +2

      Out of interest why is old british electrical issues such poor quality… cost savings!!!!

    • @mongo64071
      @mongo64071 10 місяців тому

      @@neildean7515 not sure it’s cost. These rovers were pretty expensive in their day. They could have spent the money on decent wiring. I’ve been driving much cheaper Japanese cars since the 80s and none of them had anything like this happen.

    • @williamwoods8022
      @williamwoods8022 10 місяців тому

      @@mongo64071 I NEVER had any problems with the electrics on any of the BL cars I owned - they were excellent reliable cars. Then again I looked after and serviced them myself and NEVER used cheap parts in them - I always used Lucas or Unipart original parts in my cars. They always started first time every time here in very cold Scotland in the winter. The problems are caused by the owners and garages that used cheap parts in the cars and then when they stared to have problems or broke down they would blame the car/manufacturer or Lucas instead of themselves - same goes for the owners that never bothered to service or look after their cars and then they would blame them as well but this goes for all cars with these owners. It is the same with the clowns who are clueless with electrics who bodge up the electrical system and then the new owner blames the manufacturer/Lucas for any problems and the clowns that respout the drivel they have spouted about the cars/Lucas etc.

  • @johnanchovie2b
    @johnanchovie2b 10 місяців тому +87

    If the car is essentially good, and the owner knows the car and where it is at repair wise, then it would be viable to spend 3000 on this level of repair. The car is a know quantity, a replacement used car is unknown. I prefer known quantiles personally.

    • @Joe-hz1nw
      @Joe-hz1nw 10 місяців тому +7

      Agreed for a reliable vehicle. I’ve put $2k of maintenance (some myself, some with a mechanic) into a 1998 Honda Accord.
      For a Discovery II, I’d definitely hesitate, definition of a money pit (and they are one of my favorite).

    • @paulstejskal
      @paulstejskal 10 місяців тому +2

      @@Joe-hz1nwagreed. We are in a similar spot with our 01.

    • @williamjones4483
      @williamjones4483 10 місяців тому +7

      The ideal solution would be to replace the wiring harness with a new factory harness. Personally, I do not like patchwork wiring with this much damage.

    • @gregedmand9939
      @gregedmand9939 10 місяців тому +9

      Having replaced entire wiring harnesses in fighter aircraft at my last job, doing the wire-by-wire method could end up being an expensive fool's errand. With that much visible damage, there is still what is hidden. You can replace six obviously melted ones and putting power to a circuit will just reveal what was still hidden. Unless you have the whole harness out on a bench and check each and every connector and wire you are looking at hundreds of hours. Buying a new harness, is the only way to warranty your work. Attempting to do so in the car... 👎

    • @andrewash9318
      @andrewash9318 10 місяців тому +2

      Agreed. For this vehicle, you’d have to budget $2000 a year for maintenance and repairs anyway. To buy or lease a reliable replacement vehicle, new or used, would still cost much more on an annual basis. $3000 sounds like a lot to spend at one time, but if it helps give the owner an additional 10 years of life on an otherwise solid engine, it’s insignificant.

  • @forgingluck
    @forgingluck 10 місяців тому +46

    The tipping point for me would be about 6 to 8k... There's plenty of value in having your own, that you're used to the quirks and features of, rather than just swapping to another used one.

  • @jameshenry3530
    @jameshenry3530 10 місяців тому +67

    The owner should continue the repair. If he buys another comparable
    Range Rover, it will have its own list of defects.

    • @johngaither9263
      @johngaither9263 10 місяців тому +3

      I disagree. He's still going to end up with a problematic Discovery when the repairs are completed.

    • @jalsr.speak2379
      @jalsr.speak2379 10 місяців тому +1

      Everything ran good except for the stuff effected by the short. Chances good to have a nice land rover again.

    • @andresboza8285
      @andresboza8285 10 місяців тому +3

      And it won't have the love, the history, all those cherished family moments over so many years. Geez! Even a new Land Rover won't fit the bill.

    • @russelljacob7955
      @russelljacob7955 10 місяців тому

      I would get the new harness depending on what other work has been done

  • @brucesahroian1482
    @brucesahroian1482 10 місяців тому +4

    #5 Its a Landrover!!!!!!

  • @1AEROSOL.1PUFF
    @1AEROSOL.1PUFF 10 місяців тому +109

    LET'S GIVE IT TO GRIMES, HE PULLED THAT DASH COMPLETELY OUT, AND IT WAS PAINFUL TO SEE 👀 😢

    • @logdon17
      @logdon17 10 місяців тому +6

      That was the easy part, now lets see if he can rewire everything and get it back together..

    • @GrimesGarage
      @GrimesGarage 10 місяців тому +4

      @@logdon17shouldn’t be too much of a hassle. One by one, just takes time.

    • @andresboza8285
      @andresboza8285 10 місяців тому +4

      He truly deserves all the credit, as he has been the knight in shiny armor on this case.

    • @fist003
      @fist003 10 місяців тому +3

      that's really crazy

    • @justinfleming3551
      @justinfleming3551 10 місяців тому +3

      @@GrimesGarage I admire you Grimes. You have learned a lot from the Car Wizard and you take on projects no matter their complexity with calmness and confidence and work until the job is completed. That takes real dedication, patience and commitment and I applaud you for it. Keep up the good work! 😎

  • @danielhurst8863
    @danielhurst8863 10 місяців тому +9

    Check the windshield cowl at the bottom of the windshield. I would bet that it is either cracked or not flush against the windshield. This piece is way more important that most Disco 2 owners understand, because it keeps water out of your vehicle. When it is compromised, water will drip in under the dash and up against everything under the dash. It will short out your main wiring harness, it will cause damage to the BCU, it can cause door issues.
    The part is rather expensive at $350, but cheaper than $5K.

    • @timothykraus7654
      @timothykraus7654 10 місяців тому +3

      Did you notice of the two bolts from over the steering column when the Mrs was talking about the dash ! The right side bolt was rushed and showed obvious water markings from above the bolt that made it rust ! Glad you know this and shared . that could be the source if the water in the electric system causing the short ! Im a Volvo guy and know the rust points in older combo pre2000

    • @GrimesGarage
      @GrimesGarage 10 місяців тому

      I’ll have to take a look, there was corrosion on the exposed wiring

    • @landrover8327
      @landrover8327 10 місяців тому +1

      The fresh air inlet is notorious for allowing water to weep in when it rains, leaks between the duct and the steel panel it's bolted to. Best solution is to loosen bolts and sikaflex around where the duct seats against the steel then tighten up, when cured after 24 hours fit a plastic hood over the duct to prevent water coming in during extreme weather too which you can make with an old 5 litre plastic container.

  • @davidellefson4556
    @davidellefson4556 10 місяців тому +4

    That guy needs an FJ not a rover

    • @Land_Raver
      @Land_Raver 10 місяців тому

      They get stuck way too easily.

  • @jeffboyer8214
    @jeffboyer8214 10 місяців тому +3

    Well do research 1st and then don't buy it.
    I had a co worker rover suck coolant through the supercharger and he didn't catch it and blew it up.
    No rover for me .
    5k get rid of it.

  • @jessecain1646
    @jessecain1646 10 місяців тому +10

    If he bought another one whose to say that one would have the same or other issues that are just as expensive. He obviously loves his vehicle. So if I had the money and had an excellent shop to work on it and know it's going to get done right I would spend the extra money to get it done. This was an excellent video, it answered I had on this subject. Thank everyone at Omaga for doing what you do to keep these mechanical works of art goin.

  • @Spokaneexploration
    @Spokaneexploration 10 місяців тому +12

    It honestly depends on the maintenance history and the ownership of the vehicle history like say he's had the vehicle a long time and he's done transmission replacement differentials etc depending on the condition of the vehicle you know exactly what you have if you put that kind of money into it if you go out and buy another one you can be in the hole just as bad because that one needs transmission work differential work other stuff that will add up just as much money as fixing the one you have that you know doesn't have those issues

    • @willcarson7328
      @willcarson7328 2 місяці тому

      Those transmissions are very solid, ive never really heard of people having issues

  • @andymair7992
    @andymair7992 10 місяців тому +8

    Looks like Grimes is the Electrical Wizard! 😃

  • @1crustyoldmsgtretired870
    @1crustyoldmsgtretired870 10 місяців тому +23

    The circuit using the wire that burned through is most likely where the short initially occurred.
    I don't envy Grimes in the forthcoming task. Way back in 1980, I got to build an entire body harness for a Lincoln Town Car that had a similar meltdown. We couldn't just get a new harness from Ford, but they were more than happy to sell us all the stuff to build our own. I quit eating spaghetti for a while after that.

  • @eggmanfryer
    @eggmanfryer 10 місяців тому +5

    You asked what I would do in the same circumstance, I have no idea. I would never buy a used Land Rover, BMW, Mercedes or Audi. they cost WAY too much to drive after the warranty expires.
    I have a 2004 Nissan Maxima. Runs like a champ and cost next to nothing to repair it when it breaks down. When I bought the car a year and a half ago it had around 115k miles. I replaced tires, battery and wiper blades for around $800.00.
    Then I replaced the struts, sway bar ends, drive shafts and the spark plugs & coil packs (for less than $3,500.00). ...oh, yea. I almost forgot. I bought about $400.00 in special tools to make the job go way easier. (That includes having a 4 wheel alignment done at a repair shop after I did the work)
    I recently replace two A/C hoses and recharged the system with 134a for less than $75.00. I am a plumber by day and a shade tree mechanic by night. Most nights I just sleep though.

    • @willcarson7328
      @willcarson7328 2 місяці тому

      Ive got a discovery 2, ive had it for 2 years, ive done the basic breaks, coil packs, spark plug and wires, alternator and buying it and im still into it less than the maintenance on your maxima

  • @ericbeauchea8526
    @ericbeauchea8526 10 місяців тому +4

    It's a nice truck but there's no way I'd spend that. That's why I sold my D3 and got an LX 470. At least the repairs are worth making.

  • @evol111
    @evol111 10 місяців тому +4

    Discovery's are prone to have bad wiring, ground issues, blown head gaskets and leaky sunroofs.. Absolutely not worth fixing especially if your in middle America or the west coast cause you have to pay the additional transport costs on top of the parts. I worked for a rover dealer for ten years and have lots of horror stories the reputation is well earned. If I were Wizard I'd make him pay as you go cause if he repairs the truck and the guy cant/won't pay he won't be able to sell it at a price where he can make money.

    • @Land_Raver
      @Land_Raver 10 місяців тому

      I worked for a Toyota dealership for 11 years, my stories are probably worse. Problem after problem from them. And not one Land Rover came through the shop there.

    • @darkiee69
      @darkiee69 10 місяців тому +1

      I don't think the owner works for minimum pay, this is his play car, and he took it to the wizard. He have the money to spend on it. He's probably sunk a lot of money in to t already to sort out other issues, that's why he's willing to spend to get this one taken care off instead of buying a "new" used car.

  • @LilYeshua
    @LilYeshua 10 місяців тому +8

    I'm more curious as to what caused the shorts so that could be corrected. I still remember someone stopping on the highway in front of the service station I used to work at and running towards us desperately asking us for a fire extinguisher because his whole dashboard was on fire

  • @clydedoris5002
    @clydedoris5002 10 місяців тому +3

    As an armchair owner id say junk it and buy something more reliable

  • @papawoody9597
    @papawoody9597 10 місяців тому +2

    A British vehicle with electrical problems like is a zebra with stripes.

  • @thomasfastiggi5916
    @thomasfastiggi5916 10 місяців тому +2

    It appears the windshield is cracked on this car. There are rust streaks down the roof line from the jack on top of the roof too. I suggest he call his insurance company about the wire fire. If he is lucky they will total it out under his comprehensive coverage. it makes no sense at all to put 5 cents into a car that would make Lucas the prince of darkness proud.

  • @brucemitchell5637
    @brucemitchell5637 10 місяців тому +2

    I had one of these , same year, same options. Biggest POS i've ever owned! As soon as I would fix one thing, two other things would break! My advice to the poor guy that owns this POS is run away as fast as youcan!

  • @kennethross786
    @kennethross786 10 місяців тому +6

    As the Car Care Nut opined in one of his videos, overall mileage often matters less than how what miles it has were acquired. I'd put more money into this one than even what an equivalent used one would cost, because I know the history - how it's been maintained, major services that have been done, etc. in short, how whatever miles I had put on it were acquired. If he buys another LR Discovery 2 with similar miles, he has no idea of the history. It may have been maintained very badly (or not at all), it may have been abused, been wrecked ... better to keep what you know than risk coughing up $6-8k on a used one and find out it'll need a head gasket or worse.

  • @steelwheels327
    @steelwheels327 10 місяців тому +31

    Grimes is a hell of a good troubleshooter !! i don't know how you remember where everything goes when putting it all back together . Love this indepth format

    • @GrimesGarage
      @GrimesGarage 10 місяців тому +6

      Luckily the rover shop manual is readily available. Really helped with teardown

    • @bikecommuter24
      @bikecommuter24 10 місяців тому +2

      Every Tech-shop has their own way of keeping track , the manual is one, placing the parts on the carts as you take them off in order is another, taking pictures is also another method that works for short and simple jobs, there are different ways I was a mechanic for 40 plus years and used all kinds of methods I especially liked the zip lock bags I would take a part off put in the bag write with a marker on the bag what it was and kept going.
      Something they didn't mention is all of the screws, bolts, fasteners, clips, etc you need to put those in bags or bins, sometimes that one missing special bolt or screw will prevent you from finishing a job, I work on cars in High School, Jets in the Air Force for 15 years and then got out and worked on cars and motorcycles.

    • @benjaminlusskin3211
      @benjaminlusskin3211 10 місяців тому

      As my father always says READ THE MANUAL!@@GrimesGarage

    • @Mizmilla
      @Mizmilla 7 місяців тому

      I am going through a 2000 Disco 2 restore right now with my trusted mechanic. When I looked at the LR taken apart with wires everywhere, I had an immediate panic attack. Then I remembered that this is my dream car and he is making sure it will be safe and long lasting for me. It is slowly coming back together and I’m excited for the end reveal.

  • @allworldmusic8270
    @allworldmusic8270 10 місяців тому +2

    A couple of thousand dollars it is worth it as long as there are no other major issues with the car, I had a Discovery 1 which I never liked but if it's a solid car fix it.

  • @jake_of_the_jungle9840
    @jake_of_the_jungle9840 10 місяців тому +3

    I used to have a c4 corvette that lights and blinkers would come on when you hit bumps, slapping the door panel would make them go out

  • @kenny31000
    @kenny31000 10 місяців тому +3

    i would get a new car at this point and take that one to the junk yard at this point

  • @kenbo80
    @kenbo80 10 місяців тому +25

    Somebody must have smelled the meltdown and ignored it. Bad idea. Kudos to Grimes for the courage to tackle this. Good luck!

  • @waynekaminski5438
    @waynekaminski5438 10 місяців тому +3

    Once the wiring is garbage, replace it with a new one. The cost to repair = cost of a new harness. Then there is no wire by wire testing and possible failure of old wiring down the road. However, once you are at this decision of buying a new harness, there are all the modules connected to the harness that should be also checked. So at this point you may be into this for $8-10k. Now it's time to search for a different vehicle (not another Land Rover, lol) that will be hella more reliable and sell this Land Rover as a parts vehicle. Moral of the story: don't buy a Land Rover and then hang custom pieces on it.

    • @glennbeadshaw727
      @glennbeadshaw727 10 місяців тому +1

      I was thinking exactly the same thing and if it was me this would be headed to the junkyard and I'd be using the money saved as a down payment on a Toyota Land Cruiser

  • @mikemorris4952
    @mikemorris4952 10 місяців тому +2

    It's called a Discovery because ownership is a total voyage of new discoveries. Crap, like all LR.

  • @abelreyna8781
    @abelreyna8781 10 місяців тому +3

    I had a 2004 dark gray Disco 2. I miss the old drama queen.

  • @Paul_Caruana
    @Paul_Caruana 10 місяців тому +12

    Thanks wizard for that very interesting video. In your (and Grimes) opinion, what could have caused such a massive short circuit?

    • @atodaso1668
      @atodaso1668 10 місяців тому

      I bet the wires were not melted before the owner decided to unfuse the circuit. It was probably something as simple as a blower motor or door lock actuator, now he needs a new body harness...

    • @GrimesGarage
      @GrimesGarage 10 місяців тому +2

      It appears to have originated from the column lock solenoid.

    • @Paul_Caruana
      @Paul_Caruana 10 місяців тому

      @@GrimesGarage Thanks for the update. I appreciate it, especially considering how busy you must be on that nightmare wiring loom. To me it’s scarily amazing how a steering lock problem can lead to this disaster!

  • @frasermitchell9183
    @frasermitchell9183 10 місяців тому +3

    I'd fit a good used loom (US=harness), carefully checked before fitting, and the customer made aware that no warranty can be given.
    What puzzles me is why fuses didn't blow to isolate the fault, Can it be that somebody had a blow fuse and just replaced it with a far higher amp fuse to "get things going". I suspect the current owner was sold a pup.

  • @WiekingderViking
    @WiekingderViking 10 місяців тому +3

    I would buy a 2011 4Runner. I love my Brit motorcycles but this is no bueno!

  • @bigbill709
    @bigbill709 10 місяців тому +2

    Your customer must have deep pockets?

  • @gregedmand9939
    @gregedmand9939 10 місяців тому +7

    It's truly amazing how many people ignore what a fuse is there for, and will go to great lengths to avoid discovering what would cause one to blow. In past years, some would slip a penny in to replace a blown glass house fuse or more up to date: get out the duct tape to hold down an "annoying" circuit breaker... And burn their home down. Doing it in modern vehicles is even more stupid as they are so well designed not to just fail with out reason. And before I forget: adding Mrs Wizard to your creative team, full time, was a masterful stroke!

  • @jimbo5728
    @jimbo5728 10 місяців тому +2

    This would have been even more entertaining, if the air bag fired in the face of whoever the genius is who kept upping the fuse rating till wires melted. Charred harness is close to the airbag wires. Fuses are there to protect against this very expensive repair!!

  • @michaelholmes9892
    @michaelholmes9892 10 місяців тому +3

    I would never buy an old Land Rover.

  • @markcalvary6371
    @markcalvary6371 10 місяців тому +2

    Never buy a Land Rover or any British car. Expensive to buy, parts are very expensive and the labor rate is high!

  • @leivabernie
    @leivabernie 10 місяців тому +10

    Guys you’re in this far, just keep going.

  • @MrKillswitch88
    @MrKillswitch88 10 місяців тому +2

    Melted wiring isn't a joke, back in 1998 a short resulted in an onboard fire that downed Swissair flight 111.

  • @jamesellsworth9673
    @jamesellsworth9673 10 місяців тому +3

    Owners know these are expensive vehicles to own and maintain. I'd spend the money and also understand that more expensive repairs were in my future.

  • @lawrenceralph7481
    @lawrenceralph7481 10 місяців тому +2

    Looks awful.
    After you are done. You still have an old unreliable Discovery 2.

  • @THESMARTERMAN555
    @THESMARTERMAN555 10 місяців тому +2

    Might wanna go over the cooling system too, the engine might burn up too. Trash vehicles.

  • @calabar92
    @calabar92 10 місяців тому +3

    Get a toyota land cruiser that's the best solution

  • @bigbill709
    @bigbill709 10 місяців тому +2

    I would have walked away from the vehicle when you called and said 2 to 3 grand or more to fix it.

  • @nickacoutin2505
    @nickacoutin2505 10 місяців тому +2

    I had a 2003 what a piece of crap died with 76,000 mile after a put $10,000 in it .

  • @fubartotale3389
    @fubartotale3389 10 місяців тому +2

    Whats wrong with the Land Rover?
    Well, for starters, it's a Land Rover...

  • @spambot6221
    @spambot6221 10 місяців тому +3

    Car Wizard - i have a long hiatory with Landrover back to the mid 90s. A lot of these had wiring harness issues from the factory.

  • @ryanaustin2617
    @ryanaustin2617 10 місяців тому +4

    For the works that you have to do, I suspect it will surpass $5,000. It comes down to how you feel about the vehicle whether it has any sentimental value to you, but for the financial perspective, it is not worth repairing it.

  • @JOHNJ0HN9111
    @JOHNJ0HN9111 10 місяців тому +2

    lucky the land rover didn't burn to the ground...why waste that money don't ask me.. to each there own.. i would of parted it out and make my money back and got another one..

  • @jeremya3120
    @jeremya3120 10 місяців тому +3

    Hey wizard take the oil cap off and replace the vehicle underneath it sounds like the right move

  • @neildean7515
    @neildean7515 10 місяців тому +3

    Wow, i would have thought this year would have basic wiring!!! A New 100k one will be miles and miles of this and i suspect after 10 years use, almost every modern car will be scrapped because cost will be too high for hidden electrical issues, let alone potential fire risks..

    • @genekelly8467
      @genekelly8467 10 місяців тому +2

      And the depreciation is so fast that a minor accident will cause the insurance company to total the car.

  • @michaelhawkins5530
    @michaelhawkins5530 10 місяців тому +3

    There is no way I would ever fix this. Just by another one and transfer the accessories.

  • @shipmanschaum
    @shipmanschaum 10 місяців тому +2

    This is a Game Show I have been on many times 😵
    I have built 3 discoveries first one d2 offroad stuff just like that one, 2nd one green blew head gasket rebuilt engine blew again sold. 3rd one was d1 white rare manual blew head gasket, hot tanked, shaved decked heads, valves new radiator everything. Ran great put Headman headers custom exhaust gained some power was nice. But one thing I didn't replace the fuel line and the exhaust flange leaked. The fuel line blew out and the truck went up in flames on the road when my mother was driving it. I probably would have rebuilt the engine bay again but that wiring harness and dash yall are working on was completely toast. Sad today 😭
    Love yalls Videos Wizards 💯🙂

    • @shipmanschaum
      @shipmanschaum 10 місяців тому +2

      😅 That is the Question "where do you draw the line " In a Love Hate relationship 🤪 It took me 3 Rovers the last one in flames. Taillight housings will melt so go ahead an upgrade your bulbs to led save you a ticket.
      If you find someone like the Wizard Team with Knowledge and Patience, Pay them there's not many people who will do this quality of work.

  • @AeroGuy07
    @AeroGuy07 10 місяців тому +2

    My stepsister drove one of these for years. Her husband hated it because he knew when it broke down it was going to cost $1000, at the minimum, to fix it.

  • @gregbuser4690
    @gregbuser4690 10 місяців тому +26

    The good news is that there should be no shortage of Landrover Discoverys in junk yards to get parts from.

    • @JohnHoganN8
      @JohnHoganN8 10 місяців тому

      😂😂

    • @damienwilloughby
      @damienwilloughby 10 місяців тому

      🤣

    • @BobSmith-ui4qu
      @BobSmith-ui4qu 10 місяців тому +2

      No, you are wrong. It’s hard to find Disco 2 now.

    • @BobSmith-ui4qu
      @BobSmith-ui4qu 10 місяців тому +1

      That is a good looking Disco, I have never seen such a clean one. So little rust. Have taken mine apart removal of the dash is not bad. It’s better if you have a copy of the RAVE manual then you have the shop manual from LandRover.

    • @gregbuser4690
      @gregbuser4690 10 місяців тому

      Must have sent them all to the crusher, because they certainly aren't on the road considering their unreliability.@@BobSmith-ui4qu

  • @safffff1000
    @safffff1000 10 місяців тому +3

    LOL, just get a Land Cruiser used.

  • @bobamu
    @bobamu 10 місяців тому +3

    This one's getting a sequel video, I can feel it...

  • @johngaither9263
    @johngaither9263 10 місяців тому +2

    Wiring ala Chef Boyardee. Reminds me of Fiat or Smiths electrics. In every other car brand I know of a direct short will blow every amperage fuse there is. Melting the insulation off of wire requires a lot of heat which takes a lot of current. Why bother to have fuses if short circuits this severe can continue without any restraint? Only the Brits and Italians doing wiring this way.

    • @williamwoods8022
      @williamwoods8022 10 місяців тому

      It was because the guy stuck a higher amp circuit breaker into it that caused the problem as the Wizard has answered someone above - and as many have said on here as well that someone must have stuck a bigger fuse in it as this would not have happened if the correct fuse was in it as the fuse stops the wires from doing this. I NEVER had any problems with any of the British cars I owned electrically because I always used original Lucas or Unipart parts in my cars as I looked after and serviced my own cars - it is the owners and garages that used cheap parts in the cars that caused the problems or break downs and then they blamed the cars/manufacturer/Lucas etc.

  • @Czechbound
    @Czechbound 10 місяців тому +13

    Well done *Grimes* : that must be a very, very mentally exhausting job. You'd need a lot of resilience I guess to keep going after doing the first 10 wires, and have only another 40+ to go. And then to have to test everything. And then put everything back together, and test it again.

  • @jamestyndall529
    @jamestyndall529 10 місяців тому +3

    It's time to call J&J Auto wreckage and tell them you got another one for the yard

  • @fubartotale3389
    @fubartotale3389 10 місяців тому +2

    Insert "Joseph Lucas, the prince of darkness" joke here.

  • @jamesphelps4168
    @jamesphelps4168 10 місяців тому +2

    No junk it or sell for parts! Not worth the money,. 😅

  • @pops55650
    @pops55650 10 місяців тому +1

    I had a 1974 VW bus with wires going to the carbs, I think a fuel shut off solenoid. One wire had fallen ont a heat shiel during a long drive from California to Seattle, melted the insulation and once it shorted, melted wires from the engine to under the dash. Had to rent a u-haul in Weed California to Seattle. My brother rewired it the following year and got it running. Always use the correct fuse and make sure your wires are secured away from anything hot.

  • @rootbeer666
    @rootbeer666 10 місяців тому +5

    Guess is a grounding problem.

    • @atodaso1668
      @atodaso1668 10 місяців тому

      More like an owner problem, the wire melted because he removed the fuse entirely instead of finding the issue of why the fuse was blowing. It's almost like fuses were designed to prevent wires from melting every time something stops working...

  • @jeffzekas
    @jeffzekas 10 місяців тому +2

    Notice that the only person who misses owning a Land Rover is car wizard, who is a car mechanic, because unless you are a mechanic, you do not want to own any Land Rover vehicle.

  • @georgebettiol8338
    @georgebettiol8338 10 місяців тому +3

    My preferred method would be to source a front portion of the body wiring harness from a 'trusted Land Rover recycler' - i.e. one that carefully removes the wiring loom from the wreck and doesn't just 'yank' the wiring loom off the car - check the general condition and continuity of the proposed harness and then install the harness to the vehicle and connect the relevant wires to the rear portion of the body wiring loom using robust and appropriate connections (preferably soldered) that are staggered in order to avoid a single excessively large 'connection bundle'. Needless to say, it's very time consuming and requires a focused work ethic (no interuptions) to pull it off without introducing a future 'family of gremlins'. How do I know this, I have done it and won't ever do it again - phew!

  • @dbrandon4528
    @dbrandon4528 10 місяців тому +3

    That thing is a mechanical total

  • @Fordgpw1942ocalafl
    @Fordgpw1942ocalafl 10 місяців тому +2

    Perfect doner for my diesel discover with a rotted body

  • @sleepyhollow783
    @sleepyhollow783 10 місяців тому +1

    #5. It's a Land Rover...
    I would be on suicide watch working on that thing with that many wires accessible to string myself up by...
    Please stay safe Mr. Grimes!

  • @britton6062
    @britton6062 10 місяців тому +1

    If Grimes pulls this off..........wow.
    Might have to start calling him MR. GRIMES.

  • @grassfedcontent
    @grassfedcontent 10 місяців тому +1

    A new 2023 SUV similarly sized would be $40k minimum. Worth up to $5k to fix considering the rest of the car is in great shape and could last 10 years or more under responsible ownership

  • @billwampler9608
    @billwampler9608 10 місяців тому +5

    These are known to be electrical nightmares. I owned a 2003 disco with the 4.6. Never again.

  • @habbadabbado5765
    @habbadabbado5765 10 місяців тому +1

    He knows the vehicle, where it’s been, how it’s been maintained, etc. so I’d stick with it. Seems like someone was exceeding the limits of the circuit with larger amp fuse

  • @Dozav7
    @Dozav7 10 місяців тому +1

    Other channels have advertising for gambling or pay-2-win games, while the Wizard has his wife’s parts-crafting using parts off of vehicles we’ve seen. Love it!

  • @Draconius1000
    @Draconius1000 10 місяців тому +1

    the problem is, when he buy another discovery, he could easy get the same problem or worse, that vehicle he knows, and that vehicle will have less problems
    Its land rover and even by parts that car will selling too long

  • @-jimmyjames
    @-jimmyjames 10 місяців тому +2

    I cringe at their site. Ive rebuilt their electronics so manyyyyy times. Yay Lucas lectrics. Ive had to replace front rear drive train. Axles etc. usually from water intrusion creating a gear oil milkshake and a magnet pulls bearings out of drain. If they r good they r great. But always a gamble in my opinion. I ha e a 2012 in my drive way with no compression on half the cylinders. Early 5.0 chain issue. My customer bought it. Drove 300 miles and kaboooom. Engine is 9-12k. Amd it will need all new timing, sc bearing, pumps. Seals. Yadda yadda. Hope he has abooot 18k

    • @-jimmyjames
      @-jimmyjames 10 місяців тому

      When theu run well theu are awesome
      But always keep a savings account and name it Rover repair and maintenance. Lol. Im a arsehole. My apologies

    • @-jimmyjames
      @-jimmyjames 10 місяців тому

      Mrs Wizards knick knacks r pretty rad. That pump clock is cooool

  • @s.k.y_kitty3godward850
    @s.k.y_kitty3godward850 10 місяців тому +1

    So ,coming from British person Wizard, those Land Rovers are basically junk 😮

  • @Aaron48219
    @Aaron48219 10 місяців тому +2

    A British car with electrical problems, big surprise.

  • @Watcher3223
    @Watcher3223 10 місяців тому +1

    It was a mistake of the owner to have bypassed the fuse with a circuit breaker that was likely rated higher in amps than the original fuse, allowing the short circuit to persist and cause such extensive damage that will cost so much more to fix than it could have.
    Remember, boys and girls: if a fuse blows, replace it with one of the exact same amp rating. But if it blows again, stop! Find out why the fuse is blowing. While occasionally fuses can just fail for no reason, the majority of the time they blow because there is a problem in the circuit. Keeping on replacing the same fuse when it blows is wasteful while using a higher rated fuse creates a potentially dangerous fire hazard.

  • @Bhughe4
    @Bhughe4 10 місяців тому +2

    I'm in agreement with you that a new harness isn't the most cost effective option. I do strongly disagree on replacing single wires one by one as needed. It is not a cost effective use of your techs time or the customers money.
    The used/scrap yard option would be the best way. Used interior harnesses usually fair pretty good because they are away from the engine heat, vibration and the elements. The connectors aren't brittle, the insulation won't crumble. There is sure fire way to test your new-to-you harness.
    Place the overlay harness in the cabin roughly where it will be installed and take your Fluke meter and check continuity end to end of the harness. There is no guessing or hoping or luck involved. Its a yes its good or no I got an open circuit in a wire.
    I'm interested to see how this one turns out in a later installment!! Keep up the great work guys!!
    Sincerely, Brian.
    Current Master ASE technician and (formally) Land Rover Gold Certified technician of 10 years : )

    • @willcarson7328
      @willcarson7328 2 місяці тому

      I mostly agree but by the time you get all the wiring tables and check every single pin on every single connector i cant imagine you would have made up much time over splicing a dozen wires

  • @buckmckibben5998
    @buckmckibben5998 10 місяців тому +1

    Seriously, is there such a thing as a “good” Rover? Literally everything I see on every auto channel features several rolling disasters called Rover. From engine to trans to wiring they ALL seem to have numerous serious problems.

  • @TheSleepingonit
    @TheSleepingonit 10 місяців тому +2

    I once turned a dead mini fridge into a book case

  • @complimentarycatz
    @complimentarycatz 10 місяців тому +4

    Get a Lexus! Geez

  • @adminmick
    @adminmick 10 місяців тому +5

    #2 I would say;
    interior review was fantastic!

  • @jamesredman1263
    @jamesredman1263 10 місяців тому +1

    "If you want to go into the wilderness in style, buy a Range Rover.
    "If you want to get back home, buy a Toyota."

  • @christopherdawes4414
    @christopherdawes4414 10 місяців тому +1

    Sometimes it's better the devil you know, mixed with affection for the vehicle. We have all had at least one car where the heart ruled the head. Fully understandable if you have ever owned a Land Rover!

  • @kclefthanded427
    @kclefthanded427 10 місяців тому +5

    Can't imagine what would a new Land Rover Discovery do

  • @scootermann83
    @scootermann83 10 місяців тому +1

    Finally an interior review without her saying " hidey hole, lovely, or cheeto fingers" 😂. And I like the idea of selling garbage as art.

  • @aztech4x4mechanical
    @aztech4x4mechanical 10 місяців тому +4

    Your estimated prices are pretty dam reasonable, I doubt many workshops could fix it for that.

  • @timothykraus7654
    @timothykraus7654 10 місяців тому +1

    Danielhurst8866 and I saw the windshield water marks on the right bolt over the steering column . he know these discos I don't . I has to read a shit load of comments to fund he had a similar idea WHY ! I said the bolt thing and he thought the windshield thing ! Would live to know what it really was besides the foolish owner staging a direct short to the harness !

  • @PatrickJago
    @PatrickJago 10 місяців тому +1

    If I owned it since new I would fix it because I keep my vehicles in shape and don’t know what I would get from buying another one

  • @houseofno
    @houseofno 10 місяців тому +1

    Electrical work on a UK product. The Lucas Prince of Darkness has struck again.

  • @jagvette1
    @jagvette1 10 місяців тому +1

    Rather than repair harness, surely replacement is better ?Cheaper to replace and IF it was mine I would want a fresh harness. Why the hell didn't a fuse blow ?