This was an epoch moment for me. I was in a seminar with Adam and I finally got the setting of the shoulder. The chi now flows and these abilities are manifesting. I'd say almost nobody teaches or understands this critical yet overlooked method.
Drew You are missing it. Be open. It's about using whatever is good for you, not one thing. There is something to learn hear. Don't just crap on whatever you don't understand.
Sensei Southall it's not viable on its own. No one is saying that it is all you have to know. There are some masters teaching internal stuff that will only teach it to people with a lot of training in external martial arts. It is something that helps and is good to know.
I've never seen someone do Taiji the way Mizner does it. What he says in this video is so true. I study Xingyi and we do many takedowns without the use of grabbing. If my shoulders are not sunk and soft the throws don't work. It is very hard to get past not having your shoulders raised or stiff. Also the Yi/Intention is so important.
Exactly!! Soft knees, heavy elbows, rounding the shoulders and connect with the rest of the body through the large latissimus and rhomboid muscle groups. Sink into it.
I love teacher like him who explains stuff so easily (because they really understand what they teach) and don't hide all basic teachings as secrets or display it as a mysterious force.
Song (release) and ting (awareness) and practice is how he is doing it. Most martial arts teach externally and so they are strong and tight. Tai Chi at this level is internal. Once you use strength it is external not internal and then not tai chi. Very well explained in the video.
After have the body parts what have to be released, released. Are we taking the easiest way to push the partner : the way we can stay released, comfortable ? Or every way and direction is possible with or without an adapted technique but the maintain of internal movement ? Thank you.
If you know Nei gong, then ylu understand Yi, and lastly you understand Chi. It is like a never ending cycle. Climb up a mountain and there is always another mountain.
@@DiscoverTaiji I tried this on a buddies friend of mine he was having a hard time moving my arm, i felt all his force but he couldn’t move my arm he looked at me like “follow my movements” haha i almost laughed. I don’t think this is sticky hands tho. Is this right? When you say “position” you mean with the joints in an open position? Or simple relaxed in any position?
@@DiscoverTaiji Thanks for the quick reply sifu. How would you know if the shoulder is in the correct condition? And is it only possible to apply the technique demonstrated in the video once you are full?
Hey everyone ! Hello Mr Mizner, first I want to say here that I have a deep respect for your awesomes skills - which are not a fake thing like a lot of people could believe -seeing this unusual way of generating power. Maybe you have been teached by some master for a part, but I can feel that these is the result of a deep individual research which engage body and mind, intellect and emotions in a hard hard hard way. And I can imagine easily the loneliness it required too. If you are not the only one (some systema guys show awesome habilities too, hiding - I think - the real work to get to it, coming from Chinese way of working the body) but the way you do is impressive. Nevertheless I have a question and in a way some kind of reserve ! A friendly one ☺️ but important to my eyes : You guys mastering these skills (you, Chineses and russians) often seems not to be well oxygenated, and not so healthy. I have a pretty good idea I think about the standing and movement work which causes - natural and necessary - strong imbalance (like all physical activity do but here with a strong intensity ) to generate this power. And these kind of work you must go in but out too... Like a respiration. So my question is : Do you go out of this work sometimes ? often ? Thanks a lot Adam (or Mr Mizner) Friendly yours G
I've been doing internal wc with a little of your style once in contact u can do what u are demonstrating but u get a guy say 120 kilo plus coming in with full heated punches u cannot get in contact to do what u do specifically if his boxing trained very hard to pull off my friend
Pugs snap in&out with ladderal foot work u cannot get in contact with there arms and cos of the lack of foot work in marashall arts it will not happen. Well at least for the normal jo blow anyway. Just a thumbs up was your thinking behind this.as boxers are in the ring every day getting a floging. Doing 10 to 15 to 20 rounds a night with one on one flogging it out in the ring blood nose winded nock down every day.i have to say as much as I love Marshall arts to many people put down boxing.in my opinion boxing would have to be the best form of self defense real confidence not fake like black belts. Once it used to be look out for that guy he a marshal artes. Now its look out for that guy his a golden glove. Well out my my fights on the street and people I've met.just my opinion
Like here in Australia u get those out back aboriginal fellows like 100 140 kilo if there not boxing in the ring there fighting in the street every day moses all flat teeth all missing bottle scars every where.i mean come on bro a little bit of reality on the situation.
Noses all flat teeth all missing bottle scares every where hands all smashed from boxing and fighting on the streets people are Sirius miss lead I think most people haven't even seen a good blew befor. Just trying to help that's all not putting anyone down. But to many people have been viewing Bruce lee moveis. No disrespect in any means.far as I concern if u only practice Marshall arts u are almost guaranteed to be beat up.thats just life
Interception is the key. Stealing the first move, etc. All martial arts are the same. You don't need to be the fastest or the strongest but you have to be there in time with the exact force. The harmony. That needs practice no matter the style is. MMA, TMA, etc.
A block coming in with full heated punches. that would be near impossible. Even for you. U cannot get control to do that. Well here in Australia people throw with bad intent. But great stuff. Unfortunately easier said than done my friend
Its nothing to do with chi its science and takes min to learn. When he tenses its force against force so strongest wins. You simply relax and push even slightly in another direction all his force then follows yours. Like pushing on the side of a car push as hard as you like but as it moves forward you and your force go with it simple
John Vervaeke is a Tajiquan practitioner and teaches Cognitive Science at the University of Toronto. Here he gives a naturalistic account of Chi: ua-cam.com/video/vcp6J1T60qc/v-deo.html
It is acutally easier to do that while sitting. In that way you have actually 4 legs and your center of gravity is much lower. If you practice internal arts, try it yourself. The important thing is to open up the shoulder and he will not teach you that. So don't waist your money.
Hi Adam, thank you for the great insight on internal work. It is my understanding that in Qigong we do a lot of twisting in particular twisting of the spine in bone marrow practice. You have mentioned that twisting will result in emptying the Qi, does it mean that Qigong practitioners can’t achieve results that you are teaching in Taiji? I have studied with Shaolin monks for a short period of time and have watched them very closely for number of years as they demonstrated hard core Qigong, iron shirt, etc due to their ability to store and redirect Qi to any parts of the body. I was wondering if you could comment on twisting in Qigong vs. not twisting in Taiji, are these different Qi or am I missing something? Thank you.
Great stuff but with a big new Zealand fellows twice your body weight. Is very hard to do. U have to remember u are a expert. And even u would have trouble. Remember these people are not trying to hit u .and with no intent. But hay good video.
He is doing two different things and passing it off as the same. First time he try's to push DOWN, cant move the guy. Second time he PUSHES/PULLS slightly to the side AND at a higher point on his arm. The guy may be in a solid stance but his forearms and hands extend beyond his front knee. He's vulnerable to manipulation at the those points. This is not magical, although some may think it is. It's pure physics. It's a technique passed off as 'Chi' . These are valid techniques for manipulating a persons balance but nothing to do with 'internal energy'. BJJ, wrestling etc. all do it but with less compliant partners. Aikido does it with compliant partners...Look at what he's doing, don't listen to what he says...
As always, Adam doesn't tell you HOW to mobilize the shoulder, just "song" (relax) and the student goes flying. And what's the bit with the basketball ? If I'm full I'm not flexible and that's the goal here ? I look so spiritual and nice because I''m empty ? Mindless, stupid movements ? Oh PLEASE !
Another bulshido lol. One of these guys got exposed recently check you tube. He was trying all this hocus pocus and the mma fighter just punched him the face knocking him out. These guys are just in it for the money and if you really believe it you must be missing the fundamentals of a sound and healthy mindset. A fool and his money are easily parted. Also this guy his so called hocus pocus no touch knockout and chi attacks etc don't seem to work on third party's lol. He went to a demo recently and he struggles doing these magic force moves with people who are not part of his entourage. But suddenly once his student comes along he is flipping, rolling flying and running etc all over the place where just a push of his fingers lol. Its an old and proven scam that you have insiders working inside the crowd or with you at all times. He will never demo it in a impartial crowd or in the ring as he knows he will get knocked out within a few seconds. Do you think the worlds best fighters such as baukaw, boxers wouldn't have learned this voodoo crap if it had any substance? They dedicated their lives to strengthening and conditioning there body and basic tested moves not this crap. Guys like this make me sick but there will always be fools and the gulable who will follow people like this and he knows it. I can tell you one thing now his services won't be cheap lol!
@@ozymanfree What does that mean? This is bullshit and he knows it. Why doesn't he ever do this on someone who hasn't paid to be at his seminar?? It's NONSENSE.. Prove it works against ANYONE else or a wrestler, Muay Thai or BJJ fighter. PLEASE.
The best 6 minutes of taiji instruction I’ve watched in 30 years of practice. Absolute gold!
But what is the key?
@@DULCECARICIA Chi cultivation
Thanks so much!
I love watching a great teacher/master at work 👍🏽
Such priceless teachings for sincere students of Tai Chi. Such a treat. Awesome.
Graham John Pritchard this shit don’t work in a real attack lol
David Lenis it's not all u need but definitely is a plus.
Excellent Sifu
This was an epoch moment for me. I was in a seminar with Adam and I finally got the setting of the shoulder. The chi now flows and these abilities are manifesting. I'd say almost nobody teaches or understands this critical yet overlooked method.
Han Kim any advice how to set the shoulder: letting it melt down the spine while neck is long?
What prevents the man from just letting go or moving his Center to a different place
Drew You are missing it. Be open. It's about using whatever is good for you, not one thing. There is something to learn hear. Don't just crap on whatever you don't understand.
Its because I understand that I say this. It's not viable self-defense
Sensei Southall it's not viable on its own. No one is saying that it is all you have to know. There are some masters teaching internal stuff that will only teach it to people with a lot of training in external martial arts. It is something that helps and is good to know.
sounds so easy, can't wait to see this happen...
So deep and so awesome!!
I've never seen someone do Taiji the way Mizner does it. What he says in this video is so true. I study Xingyi and we do many takedowns without the use of grabbing. If my shoulders are not sunk and soft the throws don't work. It is very hard to get past not having your shoulders raised or stiff. Also the Yi/Intention is so important.
Exactly!! Soft knees, heavy elbows, rounding the shoulders and connect with the rest of the body through the large latissimus and rhomboid muscle groups. Sink into it.
The summation! Thank you.
Thank you very much for this video.
His volunteer looks like he’s flopping around like an actor.
I love teacher like him who explains stuff so easily (because they really understand what they teach) and don't hide all basic teachings as secrets or display it as a mysterious force.
But it's all bollocks, though 🤦🏻♂️
thank you for the video!
Great sharing moment!
The details that make the diference...
Yes, the details make the difference but you seem to be missing them...no disrespect intended.
Thanks for this clarification
nice very nice. love to cross hands. much respect.
like to see more students who understand
it seems that you will find what you need to the moment you can understand that what you are looking for
Andrej Sudorgin that’s a great quote and so true in so many ways
I was wondering how he's doing that for real I would love to meet this guy
Song (release) and ting (awareness) and practice is how he is doing it. Most martial arts teach externally and so they are strong and tight. Tai Chi at this level is internal. Once you use strength it is external not internal and then not tai chi. Very well explained in the video.
After have the body parts what have to be released, released. Are we taking the easiest way to push the partner : the way we can stay released, comfortable ? Or every way and direction is possible with or without an adapted technique but the maintain of internal movement ? Thank you.
Can we have him in joe organ podcast?
wangchen tsogyal who is joe organ?
bien entendre.
If you know Nei gong, then ylu understand Yi, and lastly you understand Chi. It is like a never ending cycle. Climb up a mountain and there is always another mountain.
Like meditation another way of knowing thy self through movement.
When you say set, you mean relax the shoulder?
yes, release the shoulder. But release it in the correct position.
@@DiscoverTaiji I tried this on a buddies friend of mine he was having a hard time moving my arm, i felt all his force but he couldn’t move my arm he looked at me like “follow my movements” haha i almost laughed. I don’t think this is sticky hands tho. Is this right? When you say “position” you mean with the joints in an open position? Or simple relaxed in any position?
Hi sifu Adam, what do you mean by setting the shoulders?
The correct condition of the shoulder in tcc practice.
@@DiscoverTaiji Thanks for the quick reply sifu.
How would you know if the shoulder is in the correct condition? And is it only possible to apply the technique demonstrated in the video once you are full?
@@muhammadzaman4510 It is simple. Release the shoulder just how you release any joint. Song means to release.
@@seanhand396 Thanks Sean 😊. But it seems like there is more going on in the video
@@seanhand396 Muhammad Zaman only if it were that simple! we would all be masters! :-D
Hey everyone !
Hello Mr Mizner, first I want to say here that I have a deep respect for your awesomes skills - which are not a fake thing like a lot of people could believe -seeing this unusual way of generating power. Maybe you have been teached by some master for a part, but I can feel that these is the result of a deep individual research which engage body and mind, intellect and emotions in a hard hard hard way. And I can imagine easily the loneliness it required too. If you are not the only one (some systema guys show awesome habilities too, hiding - I think - the real work to get to it, coming from Chinese way of working the body) but the way you do is impressive.
Nevertheless I have a question and in a way some kind of reserve ! A friendly one ☺️ but important to my eyes :
You guys mastering these skills (you, Chineses and russians) often seems not to be well oxygenated, and not so healthy. I have a pretty good idea I think about the standing and movement work which causes - natural and necessary - strong imbalance (like all physical activity do but here with a strong intensity ) to generate this power.
And these kind of work you must go in but out too... Like a respiration.
So my question is : Do you go out of this work sometimes ? often ?
Thanks a lot Adam (or Mr Mizner)
Friendly yours
G
I don't understand what you mean by twisting. Can you provide more explanation?
Twisting is an error in this system.
Just an analogy of emptiness.
Why do all the people doing the demos do the silly jump??
I've been doing internal wc with a little of your style once in contact u can do what u are demonstrating but u get a guy say 120 kilo plus coming in with full heated punches u cannot get in contact to do what u do specifically if his boxing trained very hard to pull off my friend
Pugs snap in&out with ladderal foot work u cannot get in contact with there arms and cos of the lack of foot work in marashall arts it will not happen. Well at least for the normal jo blow anyway. Just a thumbs up was your thinking behind this.as boxers are in the ring every day getting a floging. Doing 10 to 15 to 20 rounds a night with one on one flogging it out in the ring blood nose winded nock down every day.i have to say as much as I love Marshall arts to many people put down boxing.in my opinion boxing would have to be the best form of self defense real confidence not fake like black belts. Once it used to be look out for that guy he a marshal artes. Now its look out for that guy his a golden glove. Well out my my fights on the street and people I've met.just my opinion
Like here in Australia u get those out back aboriginal fellows like 100 140 kilo if there not boxing in the ring there fighting in the street every day moses all flat teeth all missing bottle scars every where.i mean come on bro a little bit of reality on the situation.
Noses all flat teeth all missing bottle scares every where hands all smashed from boxing and fighting on the streets people are Sirius miss lead I think most people haven't even seen a good blew befor. Just trying to help that's all not putting anyone down. But to many people have been viewing Bruce lee moveis. No disrespect in any means.far as I concern if u only practice Marshall arts u are almost guaranteed to be beat up.thats just life
Interception is the key. Stealing the first move, etc. All martial arts are the same. You don't need to be the fastest or the strongest but you have to be there in time with the exact force. The harmony.
That needs practice no matter the style is. MMA, TMA, etc.
Well then you would run. Do not try to find a profound conclusion and figure out a result. Do what's simple.
bravo
A block coming in with full heated punches. that would be near impossible. Even for you. U cannot get control to do that. Well here in Australia people throw with bad intent. But great stuff. Unfortunately easier said than done my friend
Its nothing to do with chi its science and takes min to learn. When he tenses its force against force so strongest wins. You simply relax and push even slightly in another direction all his force then follows yours. Like pushing on the side of a car push as hard as you like but as it moves forward you and your force go with it simple
John Vervaeke is a Tajiquan practitioner and teaches Cognitive Science at the University of Toronto. Here he gives a naturalistic account of Chi: ua-cam.com/video/vcp6J1T60qc/v-deo.html
so you got same skills as Adam Mizner, and you can teach me in minimal time? where do I sign up?
Well put, to be harsh....borderline bs..and yes anyone can do it
@@vonclap hahaha!
It is acutally easier to do that while sitting. In that way you have actually 4 legs and your center of gravity is much lower. If you practice internal arts, try it yourself. The important thing is to open up the shoulder and he will not teach you that. So don't waist your money.
Also notice he first pushes against the man's frame, then when he demos the power he pulls in the direction of the punters weakness.
What type of a workshop was this?
Hi Adam, thank you for the great insight on internal work. It is my understanding that in Qigong we do a lot of twisting in particular twisting of the spine in bone marrow practice. You have mentioned that twisting will result in emptying the Qi, does it mean that Qigong practitioners can’t achieve results that you are teaching in Taiji? I have studied with Shaolin monks for a short period of time and have watched them very closely for number of years as they demonstrated hard core Qigong, iron shirt, etc due to their ability to store and redirect Qi to any parts of the body. I was wondering if you could comment on twisting in Qigong vs. not twisting in Taiji, are these different Qi or am I missing something? Thank you.
It just depends on the method and goals. In this video i was teaching a specific method.
For what it's worth, there is no such " bone marrow practice" the so called " washing the marrow" is a level of attainment not a method.
@@DiscoverTaiji is that guy a paid actor? He seems pretty good at acting like he’s being thrown around
@@eddiebicakci7363 😂, nothing stopping you to explore and try for yourself...
Sounds like bs. I would like it to be real though. Is there any video of these guys sparring against someone who's not their student?
I dont think so
Yeah.....
The martial man on UA-cam
When is Sifu Adam coming back to Ca.?
In 3 days :)
It is very hard to practise the internal style for some people so i won't critisize the others style because some people does for the health !
do you teach this on the online course? if so how many months or years will it take to gain 1/2 of this skill from your online course?
yes its taught in the course. there is no way to predict how fast one will progress, it is up to the person.
You got it yet??
😍
Any thoughts on a taiji qigong called coiling set? (ua-cam.com/video/r3uFvs6QsEQ/v-deo.html for instance)
finally, the missing piece...
Great stuff but with a big new Zealand fellows twice your body weight. Is very hard to do. U have to remember u are a expert. And even u would have trouble. Remember these people are not trying to hit u .and with no intent. But hay good video.
i have seen many . of these clips but none of his students seem to know how to fold. a basic thing to learn.
neither what do you mean by fold? And these aren’t his students(except for Curtis)...it’s a seminar which anyone can go to
He is doing two different things and passing it off as the same. First time he try's to push DOWN, cant move the guy. Second time he PUSHES/PULLS slightly to the side AND at a higher point on his arm. The guy may be in a solid stance but his forearms and hands extend beyond his front knee. He's vulnerable to manipulation at the those points. This is not magical, although some may think it is. It's pure physics. It's a technique passed off as 'Chi' . These are valid techniques for manipulating a persons balance but nothing to do with 'internal energy'. BJJ, wrestling etc. all do it but with less compliant partners. Aikido does it with compliant partners...Look at what he's doing, don't listen to what he says...
И?
🤔😏
more of this "Ramblin' Fu"
Mate u would have to fight on the street every day to full that off. And even then chances are very slim.not being rude but I mean come on bro.
Too much repetition. Don't have to say the same exact thing 10 times.
As always, Adam doesn't tell you HOW to mobilize the shoulder, just "song" (relax) and the student goes flying.
And what's the bit with the basketball ?
If I'm full I'm not flexible and that's the goal here ?
I look so spiritual and nice because I''m empty ?
Mindless, stupid movements ?
Oh PLEASE !
This is the most laughable bs I’ve ever seen
Somebody call this guy out please? Nobody jumps like that from being touched…
LOLOLOLOL
Another bulshido lol. One of these guys got exposed recently check you tube. He was trying all this hocus pocus and the mma fighter just punched him the face knocking him out. These guys are just in it for the money and if you really believe it you must be missing the fundamentals of a sound and healthy mindset. A fool and his money are easily parted. Also this guy his so called hocus pocus no touch knockout and chi attacks etc don't seem to work on third party's lol. He went to a demo recently and he struggles doing these magic force moves with people who are not part of his entourage. But suddenly once his student comes along he is flipping, rolling flying and running etc all over the place where just a push of his fingers lol. Its an old and proven scam that you have insiders working inside the crowd or with you at all times. He will never demo it in a impartial crowd or in the ring as he knows he will get knocked out within a few seconds. Do you think the worlds best fighters such as baukaw, boxers wouldn't have learned this voodoo crap if it had any substance? They dedicated their lives to strengthening and conditioning there body and basic tested moves not this crap. Guys like this make me sick but there will always be fools and the gulable who will follow people like this and he knows it. I can tell you one thing now his services won't be cheap lol!
Are you tested you ? Mmm
@@ozymanfree What does that mean? This is bullshit and he knows it. Why doesn't he ever do this on someone who hasn't paid to be at his seminar?? It's NONSENSE.. Prove it works against ANYONE else or a wrestler, Muay Thai or BJJ fighter. PLEASE.
Lmao sooo fake
Are you tested you ? Mmm