Slowly but surely. Lots of behind the scenes (major) changes the last few months. Some of it is already visible, some of it is still hidden. Hang tight!
@@Dcrainmaker Hoping the major changes includes the option to calculate HRV Status, Training Status, Sleep Score, Body Battery, Recovery Time, etc on Garmin Connect, so that you do not have to sacrifice these metrics when switching to a "lower tier" watch like this for non-sport usage.
Great review as always, thank you! Your review of the Garmin Fēnix 3 many years ago helped me out with that purchase. I've been very happy with it ever since and used it quite fully, but 8+ years later most of the features don't work anymore (GPS, altimeter, temperature, smart notifications, LCD starting to discolour,...) but it still tells time and counts steps so I have a hard time getting rid of it just yet. My sister just got the Vívomove Trend and it wowed me. Hers is the peachy gold colour, and I've got my eye on the mist grey. I was glad to see you are still doing Garmin fitness watch reviews and have such a full review of this model. Thanks again Ray!
OK, so now we have had touch screens, AMOLED screens, LTE connectivity, speaker/microphone and wireless charging. When does Garmin tie all this together in one mother-of-all flagship watch?
SUPERBLY executed. This actually looks literally like a "smart watch" vs mini computermathingy. I was thinking they're might me contrast issues with gold on light gold display, but like you say it looks very visible in daylight so thays good. This is special vs most other, bulky, plasticy Garmin smartwatches with very pixely monochrome displays, I just don't get why they're so expensive, it feels like you're solely paying for the brand. I find them very unappealing and like they're from the 80s-90s.
This watch is not my cup of tea, I prefer my Epix. But I was hoping that it would be a possible watch for my wife. However, the fact that it is touchscreen operated only and that you can not pair it with a HR strap are show stoppers. However, good review as always. Hope to see you soon, talking about the FR265/965..
@@ashleyjohansson230 I actually owned the E2, but due to the fact that Garmin still has major issues sync'ing 2 watches with their Physio TrueUp, I sold it.Going to bed with an Epix on my left and the E2 on my right wrist was somewhat annoying.
Nice review! You haven't mentioned how much of basic use and specific use (measurements) spend battery and how often the watch needed charging. Good work though!
The one question I have for this and the Instinct Crossover - can you configure the hands to tell the time when you are in an activity? I realize they will sometimes obscure the data, but for some times of activities (touring, commuting) I'd love that.
Overall it seems to be a pretty complete hybrid health and fitness tracker with some bonus smart watch convenience features. The one thing I would have liked to have seen with this watch is at least the optical sensor that comes on the Venu 2. It just seems like one heck of a corner to cut for a new watch that is being released when the version 4 sensor is pretty prevalent and the version 5 is starting to get rolled out on new Garmin watches. The Venu 2 is also over 2 years old now and can be bought for less than this new Vivomove Trend.
I have the trend and wondering if I need to protect the glass with a protector or not. What is the quality of the glass on scratching protection? Thank you in advance for your responds!
I've got a Vivoactive 3 that I bought a few years ago, and a Vivomove Style that I found secondhand on eBay - charging cables are prone to wearing out quickly or not working; wireless charging would be a real win IMHO.
I just found out about the trend, and this watch looks PERFECT. I’ve been looking for a good hybrid watch for ages, but most hybrid watches definitely lack good fitness features. Unfortunately this thing is already almost 2 years old…do we know if/when garmin will update this? Is it still getting firmware updates? I wish they made this in a 44mm option, which looks like the vivomove luxe was, but that’s been discontinued :/
Great looking watch with plenty of features. Do you have to add your pin every time you want to pay? Even if it is at the subway turnstile? That would be hugely inconvenient.
nice review, mine is with the old premium one (discontinued) there is just one thing i cant use it anymore the screen doesnt work anymore so i cant correct the time and connect it to the app. anyway to purchase a spare lcd for it thx
Does the trend allow us to use premade excercises that are made in the Phone app? I'd like to make my own excercise, with precise amount of time or distance and rest after that. My fenix does that, but i want to buy trend for my wife and she is the runner too
My favorite part of all wireless products is that you not only have a wire but you also have the base/stand/pod to set it on. But it is neat since I do use it for my iPhone 🤷♂️
They'd end up being too thick. To cram the additional sensors in along with the watch hands, it would have quite a tall stack height. (Imagine adding a few extra mm to a Garmin Fenix S or Venu 2 etc)
I've noticed the elevation graph looks more like if it was GPS based as with the barometric altimeter it should look "smoother", is there some setting from which source the elevation is being recorded?
I’m not a gadget nerd. I’m mainly just interested in a “smart” watch 🧭 to monitor my heart rate❤️🩹nightly during sleep (and daily) to alert🚨 /notify me audibly⏰ (not just w/vibrations), with high/low rates inputs. The blood oxygen🩸sensor is a plus of course. Any other option is nifty but doesn’t float my boat. Ques? - Have You Done a Test of These Audible Functions (regarding any Watch you’ve tested)? if so, I’ve yet to see it in any of your vids. If you have, can you direct me to them? Thanks, Dave
How did you manage to ship that workbench to the U.S.? My wife works at the company who makes these and shes wondering how you did it, cause they do not ship into the U.S. 😅
I am a big fan of the vivomove series, I got the vivomove style on release and it's been an amazing watch to me. When they released the style model, they also released the smaller S variant, ever since then it feels, like they've been releasing an S variant successor, nothing for the style model. I hope we get an upgrade there aswell, these S successors are too small for my wrist...
@@Dcrainmaker that’s for confirmation. I’m trying to find a watch for my partner to replace her Apple Watch and whoop, one device without a big monthly. Unicorn device 🤣
This watch is $399 CAD for the "womens" colours and $369 for black/gray. Ray, do you know of any reason for the price difference? Seems like all have the stainless steel bezel and silicon bands. Same size, same features. I reached out to garmin twitter but is this just 100% a pink tax for women? This watch is also pretty confusing from a price standpoint. Sure the battery is a bit better, but you can get an apple watch SE for $329 CAD
This is cool! Any idea if Garmin will be releasing a USB-C to other type Garmin Cable? I'd love to be able to plug my Fenix 6 into my MacBook without a dongle!
Hello mate, DId u know garmin increased price of all watches especially fenix series in australia by 200$, when i called them they said they dont know, could be inflation. IT's been1 year since fenix released, and how can they increased the price now, do u think it's fair, pls have a look for us
I'd wish they'd make something between this and the Instinct Crossover. Like an Instinct Crossover, but more elegant and less chunky. More in the style of a Marq and less like a G-Shock. And please with full-button operation, and I'd prefer a transflective color LCD.
According to the specs, the Vivomove Trend _does_ support TrueUp but _not_ Physio TrueUp. In other words: Yet again, Garmin has chosen to NOT support a real dual-watch use case! I can't figure out why Physio TrueUp is not a primary feature of all new watches (since 2019). Like Garmin tries to prevent us from buying a second watch (second to a high-end watch like Fenix, Epix etc.). It doesn't make sense. Any idea why yet another new watch doesn't support Physio TrueUp, Mr. Rainmaker? It's frustrating!
It’s messy. It doesn’t support true Physio True-Up because Physio True-Up itself is syncing of training load metrics. Thus, it doesn’t itself generate those. But, it will send them to a watch that does.
@@Dcrainmaker Oh, interesting. If I'm using a Vivomove Trend as a primary device (everyday use) and a Fenix 7 during training, does this mean that I will be able to see an updated e.g. Training Readiness status on my Garmin Connect app?
@@BrianSoegaard The Vivomove Trend will contribute the sleep data, and other aspects, which Training Readiness can pickup. Garmin has re-architected much of the Physio True-Up bits in the background over the past few months, and the final pieces are literally being slotted in place currently - so some things are a bit fuzzy. I'm working on a post to detail it all, but this specific example you stated should work correctly. The one main gap is Body Battery is still not synced across devices.
My Garmin vivomove TREND arrived today and it is stuck in some DEV MODE. I have it connected to my MacBook Air, and Garmin Express talks to it and it is even running Garmin software ver. 2.13. Any thoughts on how to do a factory reset without any buttons or access to the menu?
Garmin finally moving to an actual charging standard, is this the real world? (Written by somebody who owns as many charging cables as he owns Garmin Forerunners)
I loved the colorful Mirror finish on my VM Sport. But changed to the Venu2s because of way better Sensor and better Battery Life. Sp02 also was not that good on VM Sport. Display Brightness was ok.
Thinking of buying Garmin Vivomode Trend, I got iPhone 12 mini. Does anyone know if it is possible to reply thru the watch to text messages if its paired with iPhone? Thank you in advance! 🤗 -Luna
Nice watch and great review as always ;-) Honestly, I think wireless charging as i is today is in some ways already outdated. The energy loss compared to wired charging is a problem to me in these times, when excessive use of energy is a problem all over the world. Secondly it often takes more time (although apparently not in this particular case), and to me that's more cumbersome than plugging a cable in
@@Dcrainmaker Thanks! I was hoping this would be my suit-and-tie-compatible hybrid replacement for Fenix. Simpler in functionality but at least comparable in battery life. Alas, I have to wait a bit more. Instinct Crossover nearly did it, but it looks too rugged to fit the purpose.
The more I'd supposedly benefit from wearing these things overnight, the more they need to be able to run indefinitely while being charged only while I'm in the shower. Yes, even if I skip a shower here or there. I do not need to add having to worry about scheduling the care and feeding of yet another pet to my life.
Ok, now we need TrueUp to actually work so I can run with my Forerunner and chill with this one
Slowly but surely. Lots of behind the scenes (major) changes the last few months. Some of it is already visible, some of it is still hidden. Hang tight!
@@Dcrainmaker Hoping the major changes includes the option to calculate HRV Status, Training Status, Sleep Score, Body Battery, Recovery Time, etc on Garmin Connect, so that you do not have to sacrifice these metrics when switching to a "lower tier" watch like this for non-sport usage.
Great review as always, thank you! Your review of the Garmin Fēnix 3 many years ago helped me out with that purchase. I've been very happy with it ever since and used it quite fully, but 8+ years later most of the features don't work anymore (GPS, altimeter, temperature, smart notifications, LCD starting to discolour,...) but it still tells time and counts steps so I have a hard time getting rid of it just yet. My sister just got the Vívomove Trend and it wowed me. Hers is the peachy gold colour, and I've got my eye on the mist grey. I was glad to see you are still doing Garmin fitness watch reviews and have such a full review of this model. Thanks again Ray!
OK, so now we have had touch screens, AMOLED screens, LTE connectivity, speaker/microphone and wireless charging. When does Garmin tie all this together in one mother-of-all flagship watch?
SUPERBLY executed. This actually looks literally like a "smart watch" vs mini computermathingy. I was thinking they're might me contrast issues with gold on light gold display, but like you say it looks very visible in daylight so thays good. This is special vs most other, bulky, plasticy Garmin smartwatches with very pixely monochrome displays, I just don't get why they're so expensive, it feels like you're solely paying for the brand. I find them very unappealing and like they're from the 80s-90s.
I just wish there was some contrast between the dial, markers, and hands
Me,too. 😢
So disappointing that Garmin Pay doesn't work in Canada. I hope that changes. Wireless charging I think is the future for phones and watches
Great combination of the Analog Style with the Display. Would love to have a Watch like this with the Features ans Profiles of a Forerunner 255.
Finally a good contender for a new watch! I'm using the nokia withing HR and I wonder if I should jump the shark
The hands were indicating the dial position too. When you swiped to the cups display the hand was part of the gauge, not just moving out of the way.
Yup, it's pretty cool!
This watch is not my cup of tea, I prefer my Epix. But I was hoping that it would be a possible watch for my wife. However, the fact that it is touchscreen operated only and that you can not pair it with a HR strap are show stoppers. However, good review as always. Hope to see you soon, talking about the FR265/965..
I know it is being reported it can't be paired with a HR strap, but on the Garmin site it shows ANT+. I thought that was what is used for HR straps?
Get your wife the enduro 2, I got one and its perfect.
@@ashleyjohansson230 I actually owned the E2, but due to the fact that Garmin still has major issues sync'ing 2 watches with their Physio TrueUp, I sold it.Going to bed with an Epix on my left and the E2 on my right wrist was somewhat annoying.
So glad to see the hand alignment adjustment - that the hands were a tick off was irritating me!
Nice review! You haven't mentioned how much of basic use and specific use (measurements) spend battery and how often the watch needed charging.
Good work though!
1. will I be able to use timer in the workout mode?
2. can I customize timer function as a swipe shortcut?
I have one question...can i see on display notifications from google maps? Like 100m turn right etc?
I think this watch would get more people into the system if it just had GPS built in. Not everyone wants a watch which screams sports watch.
this is very cool, i hope they make alternate colours
The charging port of my Fenix 5 is definitely on the way out, I will now wait for wireless charging on a future multi sport watch before replacing it.
The one question I have for this and the Instinct Crossover - can you configure the hands to tell the time when you are in an activity? I realize they will sometimes obscure the data, but for some times of activities (touring, commuting) I'd love that.
Hi Ray, do you have a comparison of the vivomove trend vs vivoactive 4?
Overall it seems to be a pretty complete hybrid health and fitness tracker with some bonus smart watch convenience features. The one thing I would have liked to have seen with this watch is at least the optical sensor that comes on the Venu 2. It just seems like one heck of a corner to cut for a new watch that is being released when the version 4 sensor is pretty prevalent and the version 5 is starting to get rolled out on new Garmin watches. The Venu 2 is also over 2 years old now and can be bought for less than this new Vivomove Trend.
I have the trend and wondering if I need to protect the glass with a protector or not. What is the quality of the glass on scratching protection?
Thank you in advance for your responds!
I've got a Vivoactive 3 that I bought a few years ago, and a Vivomove Style that I found secondhand on eBay - charging cables are prone to wearing out quickly or not working; wireless charging would be a real win IMHO.
I just found out about the trend, and this watch looks PERFECT. I’ve been looking for a good hybrid watch for ages, but most hybrid watches definitely lack good fitness features. Unfortunately this thing is already almost 2 years old…do we know if/when garmin will update this? Is it still getting firmware updates? I wish they made this in a 44mm option, which looks like the vivomove luxe was, but that’s been discontinued :/
Great looking watch with plenty of features. Do you have to add your pin every time you want to pay? Even if it is at the subway turnstile? That would be hugely inconvenient.
I think this Watch is super cute! Great review! Will connect to speed and cadence sensors?
Whats the difference to the older Vivomove Style?
Is it possible to see the hour in dark conditions?
Wondering if wireless charging will come to the Fenix 8. If not the 8 then the 9…
I hope I can get this watch soon.....(Malaysia always been late because it's consider small market....,😂)
Do the hands still make the noise while they move?
Dc Rainmaker. Just wanted to know what you do to keep your smartwatches clean?. Do you run them through water or just wipe them down. Thanks
Nice review and very nice looking hybrid watch! What kind of battery life you getting out of it?
nice review, mine is with the old premium one (discontinued) there is just one thing i cant use it anymore the screen doesnt work anymore so i cant correct the time and connect it to the app.
anyway to purchase a spare lcd for it thx
Does the trend allow us to use premade excercises that are made in the Phone app? I'd like to make my own excercise, with precise amount of time or distance and rest after that. My fenix does that, but i want to buy trend for my wife and she is the runner too
does it have fall detection like they first advertised when it was releasing?
My favorite part of all wireless products is that you not only have a wire but you also have the base/stand/pod to set it on.
But it is neat since I do use it for my iPhone 🤷♂️
Why do these watches never have built in gps? I don't want to always carry my smartphone while running.
They'd end up being too thick. To cram the additional sensors in along with the watch hands, it would have quite a tall stack height. (Imagine adding a few extra mm to a Garmin Fenix S or Venu 2 etc)
Does it work wireless charging with Garmin Venu 3?
I've noticed the elevation graph looks more like if it was GPS based as with the barometric altimeter it should look "smoother", is there some setting from which source the elevation is being recorded?
I’m not a gadget nerd. I’m mainly just interested in a “smart” watch 🧭 to monitor my heart rate❤️🩹nightly during sleep (and daily) to alert🚨 /notify me audibly⏰ (not just w/vibrations), with high/low rates inputs. The blood oxygen🩸sensor is a plus of course. Any other option is nifty but doesn’t float my boat. Ques? - Have You Done a Test of These Audible Functions (regarding any Watch you’ve tested)? if so, I’ve yet to see it in any of your vids. If you have, can you direct me to them? Thanks, Dave
How did you manage to ship that workbench to the U.S.? My wife works at the company who makes these and shes wondering how you did it, cause they do not ship into the U.S. 😅
I am a big fan of the vivomove series, I got the vivomove style on release and it's been an amazing watch to me.
When they released the style model, they also released the smaller S variant, ever since then it feels, like they've been releasing an S variant successor, nothing for the style model.
I hope we get an upgrade there aswell, these S successors are too small for my wrist...
Can it broadcast hr?
Does/Did it work with an Apple MagSafe charger?
DesFit says it doesn't. However, it does work with a Galaxy Watch charger.
Elevate 3.0! Great review!
How does it compare to the Forerunner 965?
It has a barometer but no a baro app? :(
Will this watch show any HRV data in the app?
Sadly not.
@@Dcrainmaker that’s for confirmation. I’m trying to find a watch for my partner to replace her Apple Watch and whoop, one device without a big monthly. Unicorn device 🤣
@@tiptoptigger I have a polar Vantage M2 and it it does HRV. Similar price point
Thats a bummer. Really thought HRV would be standard. Is it the hardware or the software that doesn't support HRV?
@@robbienio This should be a software gap. The sensor used here is the same sensor as on the Fenix 6, which does have HRV support.
Finally, about time!
Now they only need to implement it in the watches I actually care about xD
This watch is $399 CAD for the "womens" colours and $369 for black/gray. Ray, do you know of any reason for the price difference? Seems like all have the stainless steel bezel and silicon bands. Same size, same features. I reached out to garmin twitter but is this just 100% a pink tax for women? This watch is also pretty confusing from a price standpoint. Sure the battery is a bit better, but you can get an apple watch SE for $329 CAD
This is cool!
Any idea if Garmin will be releasing a USB-C to other type Garmin Cable? I'd love to be able to plug my Fenix 6 into my MacBook without a dongle!
I purchased a third party one and it works well (Amazon)
Hello mate, DId u know garmin increased price of all watches especially fenix series in australia by 200$, when i called them they said they dont know, could be inflation. IT's been1 year since fenix released, and how can they increased the price now, do u think it's fair, pls have a look for us
I'd wish they'd make something between this and the Instinct Crossover. Like an Instinct Crossover, but more elegant and less chunky. More in the style of a Marq and less like a G-Shock. And please with full-button operation, and I'd prefer a transflective color LCD.
Great review! I have to know, what do you wear day to day the most?
Lately a Forerunner 965, or FR955 prior to that.
According to the specs, the Vivomove Trend _does_ support TrueUp but _not_ Physio TrueUp. In other words: Yet again, Garmin has chosen to NOT support a real dual-watch use case! I can't figure out why Physio TrueUp is not a primary feature of all new watches (since 2019). Like Garmin tries to prevent us from buying a second watch (second to a high-end watch like Fenix, Epix etc.). It doesn't make sense. Any idea why yet another new watch doesn't support Physio TrueUp, Mr. Rainmaker? It's frustrating!
It’s messy. It doesn’t support true Physio True-Up because Physio True-Up itself is syncing of training load metrics. Thus, it doesn’t itself generate those. But, it will send them to a watch that does.
@@Dcrainmaker Oh, interesting. If I'm using a Vivomove Trend as a primary device (everyday use) and a Fenix 7 during training, does this mean that I will be able to see an updated e.g. Training Readiness status on my Garmin Connect app?
@@BrianSoegaard The Vivomove Trend will contribute the sleep data, and other aspects, which Training Readiness can pickup. Garmin has re-architected much of the Physio True-Up bits in the background over the past few months, and the final pieces are literally being slotted in place currently - so some things are a bit fuzzy. I'm working on a post to detail it all, but this specific example you stated should work correctly. The one main gap is Body Battery is still not synced across devices.
My Garmin vivomove TREND arrived today and it is stuck in some DEV MODE. I have it connected to my MacBook Air, and Garmin Express talks to it and it is even running Garmin software ver. 2.13. Any thoughts on how to do a factory reset without any buttons or access to the menu?
You neēd to send it back
Garmin finally moving to an actual charging standard, is this the real world? (Written by somebody who owns as many charging cables as he owns Garmin Forerunners)
It's got a short battery life, in comparison to my Withings 20 days, Huawei GT3 10 days.
I loved the colorful Mirror finish on my VM Sport. But changed to the Venu2s because of way better Sensor and better Battery Life. Sp02 also was not that good on VM Sport.
Display Brightness was ok.
Can anyone confirm that charging via a phone works wirelessly? I've can I use my power sharing on Galaxy fold 5 to charge this watch
I was so keen for this watch until you said there's no internal gps. Instantly out of the question.
LMAOOO, "this moderately sketchy old thing I found in A bin" that was priceless!!! 😁 don't we all have those
I like my vivomove style, but I wish it had wireless charging, the garmin charging port is lame.
Thinking of buying Garmin Vivomode Trend, I got iPhone 12 mini.
Does anyone know if it is possible to reply thru the watch to text messages if its paired with iPhone?
Thank you in advance! 🤗
-Luna
Nice watch and great review as always ;-)
Honestly, I think wireless charging as i is today is in some ways already outdated. The energy loss compared to wired charging is a problem to me in these times, when excessive use of energy is a problem all over the world.
Secondly it often takes more time (although apparently not in this particular case), and to me that's more cumbersome than plugging a cable in
Incorrect
I was thinking on getting this for my mom, but the battery life is amazingly low.
I would have traded wired charging for onboard GPS
Me too.
Why the hell compare it with the Vivomove Sport and not Style? A lot more similar
Hi, what is the battery life?
Theoretical 5 days, but I'm getting about 3ish, likely because I'm doing 60-90 mins of workout per day.
@@Dcrainmaker Thanks! I was hoping this would be my suit-and-tie-compatible hybrid replacement for Fenix. Simpler in functionality but at least comparable in battery life. Alas, I have to wait a bit more. Instinct Crossover nearly did it, but it looks too rugged to fit the purpose.
Finally,a watch that an average teacher would not think that it is a smart watch
It was a great device for cheating
can you connect things like power meters to it?
If they have wireless charging on the next Fenix, I’m going to start saving my pennies.
tbh, if this existed with onboard gps, id ditch the venu2plus i have for it.
This or lily 2? 😩
i am still on 245 for two and half years and i will wait for 265
For me it's a real pity that it doesn't have its own GPS sensor. That really just kills the watch for me as I don't like running with my phone
The more I'd supposedly benefit from wearing these things overnight, the more they need to be able to run indefinitely while being charged only while I'm in the shower. Yes, even if I skip a shower here or there. I do not need to add having to worry about scheduling the care and feeding of yet another pet to my life.
Thank you
Great watch
No GPS, no buy
I finally get to do it. FIRST!!!
Imagine typing first on a vid then finding out you weren't
If I have to take it off I don't care how it charges but I'd rather not pay for this unnecessary and inefficient feature.
Who's wearing this to bed?
965! 265! Gimme gimme gimme
another downgrade to the style
First