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  • @contumacious5506
    @contumacious5506 4 роки тому +21

    I overheard a man speaking Choctaw about ten years ago at an Aldi supermarket in Moore, Oklahoma, and have even met monolingual Choctaw elders in southeast Oklahoma where I grew up. I also overheard an elderly Choctaw couple speaking Choctaw at a MacDonald's restaurant along the high here some years ago.

    • @hallieharker4384
      @hallieharker4384 3 роки тому +4

      I live in Oklahoma. I moved here from Texas a little over 16 years ago. Before that, I think I had only met one person in my life up till that point who was full blooded Native American. (He was Navajo and he was one of the Wind Talkers who came to speak to my American History class in high school, so to say I met him is not exactly true, but he did speak to my class.) Since moving to Oklahoma, though, I've met quite a few Native people, and they are some of the nicest and coolest people I've ever met!

  • @thomasolive6351
    @thomasolive6351 4 роки тому +47

    Interesting. You were able to pick up on several different aspects of speaking Choctaw. we have a past tense marker "tuk". For the sentence to be in the past tense, it must have "tuk" at or near the end of the sentence. nipi awashli = he/she/it is frying meat. nipi awashli li = I am frying meat. I see how you came to the conclusion on the ansha sentence. Howerver, it gives off more of a "He/She fried meat, here it is." You learned that "li" is used after verbs to indicate "I am doing (said verb)" However, that is not true for bvnna at the 5:40 mark. Chahta okla yvt America anuka miya atako America ia sv bvnna. Kanat Chahta anumpa anumpola hinla ka afama sv bvnna. At the 6:04 mark, you used kiyo instead of keyu. Kiyo is our negation marker and keyu is our word for no. Himak nittak vt nitak hullo nakfish. Himak nittak holhtina yvt pokkoli tuklo akocha tahlapi. Himak hvshi yvt eplil. your "do you want to go outside" at 6:25 was spot on in spelling. lol. at 6:55 ishi is the Choctaw word for "have/has." Howerver, it only works with objects that can be held and not living. I have a pencil. I have a book. I cant have a house. I cant have anything alive. At 6:59 the same thing kinda applies for hochvffo. It would be "sv hochvffo" I am hungry. That is a wonderful clip of Mississippi Choctaw speakers. Spelling is always a topic of discussion among Choctaw people. We spell how it sounds and therefore spellings can differ. Not to mention the different dialects. The Choctaw School of Language is still a functioning website. I'm so glad our language is being talked about. Yakoke Chito!

    • @imshawngetoffmylawn
      @imshawngetoffmylawn  4 роки тому +8

      Thomas Olive Wow thank you for that description! Very interesting stuff, I’ll keep that in mind, hopefully one day I’ll visit the Choctaw nations and practice with the people. Yakoke!

    • @EgyptNile
      @EgyptNile 3 роки тому

      @@imshawngetoffmylawn I’m trying to reconnect with my native side and learn Choctaw as well!! I have a discord server and channels for those reconnecting @ mmm.page/EgyptNile :)

    • @melinichole9578
      @melinichole9578 2 роки тому

      You don’t think this language sounds a little bit like Hebrew

  • @ericgibson413
    @ericgibson413 2 роки тому +8

    We don't have an actual spelling, we have common spellings. I'll give u props u did good.

  • @tonguesinc.8233
    @tonguesinc.8233 4 роки тому +16

    It's great you're spreading knowledge on these languages that don't get spotlight!

  • @rachellewhite4054
    @rachellewhite4054 3 роки тому +9

    I am Chahta. My tribe is Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma. Thank you for spreading info on my tribe. Also - I love the Irish! They often re-walk the trail of tears in honor of our tribe.
    It means so much to hear the words of my ancestors being spoken from you!

    • @ericgibson413
      @ericgibson413 2 роки тому +1

      But the Choctaw nation is corrupt, ask about my sister who died at their boarding school. Don't be so proud

    • @rachellewhite4054
      @rachellewhite4054 2 роки тому +2

      @@ericgibson413 I blame christianity, and the government for that corruption. I am still proud of my family history, but that doesn’t mean I support residential boarding schools

  • @cbbuntz
    @cbbuntz 2 роки тому +5

    I grew up in the Choctaw nation. I actually helped document interviews with the last surviving original enrollees. A lot of the interviews were conducted in Choctaw. All I picked up was "what is your name?" because each interview started that way. Also, my nephew is related to one of the WWII code talkers which is a pretty cool thing to have in your family tree.
    But I've never heard Choctaw spoken in the wild outside of those interviews. Sadly, it's pretty much a dead language now.

    • @ronaldbrown5946
      @ronaldbrown5946 Рік тому

      Very interesting how were the interviews conducted? And who for? Thank you

    • @neshobadude83
      @neshobadude83 7 місяців тому +1

      Not a dead language. Come to Mississippi, the original homeland. My family still speak it fluently. We have a lot of fluent speakers here. Visit the tribal office or our casinos and you’ll hear us speaking Choctaw. I was born in 1983 and even I learned English in school. Choctaw was my first language

  • @EgyptNile
    @EgyptNile 3 роки тому +15

    My grandparents was fully Choctaw from Mississippi 😁✨

    • @JazSteele
      @JazSteele 3 роки тому +1

      Same !!

    • @EgyptNile
      @EgyptNile 3 роки тому +1

      @XxIll -fated that’s a slur don’t use that

    • @justbamsy9285
      @justbamsy9285 2 роки тому

      @XxIll -fated yeee. Chi 5$ aki. But no worries. I find any slur or racial profiling pretty funny.

    • @justbamsy9285
      @justbamsy9285 2 роки тому

      @@EgyptNile we don’t mind

    • @Violet-cw8is
      @Violet-cw8is Рік тому

      My 3rd g gma was and her parents, but they died in the Yellow Fever Epidemic that killed thousands of Choctaw, when she was an infant.

  • @jimowens6199
    @jimowens6199 2 роки тому +5

    There are a few things to add. First, none of those pictures with people in traditional clothes were Choctaw.
    Another thing is that Van Cleave Live Oak are fake. In the US, there are high requirements for the federal government to recognize tribes. The Van Cleave "tribe" do not pass muster, so they are only state recognized, which was bolstered in part by nepotism on the side of the state of Mississippi and the "chief". They have very little understanding of Choctaw culture, traditions, etc. and their customs are pretty foreign to us. However, the MOWA band is recognized as being pretty similar to us, so federally-recognized Choctaw bands generally support their federal recognition since they have a very strong argument to claim relation to us.
    The clans (iksa not iska) do not exist due to cultural annihilation on the part of the federal government, but animals being part of the nomenclature is pretty correct (at least that's what old timers have said).
    Here are some notes on the phrases:
    She fried the meat - Nipi awashli tuk. (tuk indicates something that happened in the past. There is no "she" because Choctaw is contextual, so the phrase could equally mean he, she, or it). the "hli" part is off, too, but you do seem to catch the contextual nature of the language, which is rough since other languages don't have that. To say that you saw or smelled someone do it, you'd just say that, which would be "Nipi awashli pisali tuk" (I saw her/him/it fry meat). To say you smelled it in your context, it would be "Nipi awashli aiishwali tuk" (I smelled the frying meat.)
    I've never heard asha being a suffix to describe whether you were there or not; it just means "where something is" as far as I know. It could maybe be the suffix -ash, which indicates something that happened in the past?
    For the first phrases, here's how a native speaker would construct it: Chahta anumpa ahchiba fehna - Your translation is exactly right. Aiali is one of those words that varies wildly depending on context, but its common use is to mean something is from somewhere.
    The second phrases is pretty good. It has lots of weird things in it and is kind of a complex phrase. It would be: America iali sv bvnna; Chahta yvt okchaya aiasha.
    The third phrase is one of those that has a lot of lingual quirks. Choctaw is very direct, so there is no "and well", "and so", etc. I would kind of swap things around to be: Hattak Chahta anumpoli afama sv bvnna.
    The fourth phrases are great. It has perfect structure and is what a native speaker would say, but it has another little quirk: There are suffixes that indicate questions, so your phrases would look like this: Katimma iala chi o? ("O" indicates an interrogative with an action taking place). The other phrase would have the same rule, so it would just be "Nanta pisala chi o?)
    The greeting phrase is correct, but sounds a little odd to me. I've heard of hvt being used. I guess the Oklahoma dialect I speak doesn't use it, but it's definitely a subject marker. Aside from that nitpick, those phrases are perfect, too.
    The next two phrases are perfect, too. The weather one is a little rough. Here's what we say: Himak nittak kucha ya omba. (Today it is raining outside). "Hikia" means standing. The interrogative about weather is perfect, except since it indicates an action, you'd end it with "o", but you understand the sentence structure.
    My parents have two dogs: sv ki micha ishki itatuklo yvt imasha ofi tuklo. The only thing missing from the other phrase is the subject marker (hochifo yvt...). The phrase for parents seems odd, but it's in the dictionary, which is odd. You'd never use "sv" with a father, only with a mother, which is confusing. I'd just say "aki cha svshki" (my father and mother)
    Being hungry: ilimpa himonasi (let's eat now); sv hochvffo. ilhkoli does mean "move", but it means like to move a limb or to shift around; movement to go somewhere is "ia".
    Those women in the video sound like they're speaking very formally. Unfortunately, my speech and that of some others I've met have a more informal style, so even we have some problems understanding each other. It gets even more complex because all of our different communities were squished together in Oklahoma, so there are tons of dialects and it can be very different amongst them.
    Overall, really good for someone without any prior knowledge of the language.

    • @LM-ki5ll
      @LM-ki5ll 2 роки тому

      Wait Oklahoma Choctaw actually support the MOWA? For decades I thought it was the opposite, I know the Poarch Band of Creek Indians the only federally recognized tribe in Alabama turned on the MOWA when they got federal recognition.
      The Van Cleave Choctaw I wouldn't say are a "tribe" but they do seem like a remnant of choctaw descendants, who were successful in creating a private school for their children distinct from white or black schools. Several communities of Choctaw remnants exist around Louisiana from Rapides parish to St Tammany parish to Hancock County and elsewhere with names like Baptiste, Johnson, Favre and other core Choctaw names.
      In 1902 several hundred were trafficked to Ardmore, OK; but dozens remained and are recorded plainly as such. I also found out some were listed on the Mississippi Choctaw roll after the dawes roll but they returned to Louisiana just as the Jena Band did. The reason why the Jena band was able to get recognition was with the active support of the MIssissippi Band due to their linguistic and cultural retention + an act of congress.
      But neither the CN nor the MBCI seem to be advocating for the MOWA.

  • @moonoverhwy367
    @moonoverhwy367 2 роки тому

    I absolutely love this video! Good job!!- I'm currently learning Choctaw and I have to agree. After having learned two other languages (Spanish and French), Chahta Anumpa is by far, the hardest.😩

  • @datasterisk3809
    @datasterisk3809 3 роки тому +7

    I believe that most of the inconsistent material you found is a consequence of Choctaw being a spoken language first and foremost. MBCI reservation has a number of different communities and each has their own little quirks that differentiates, say, red water speakers from conehatta speakers from pearl River and so on. Spellings are also all over the place so bogue chitto can become bok cito or conehatta can be konihata depending on who you ask

  • @aaronchambers9888
    @aaronchambers9888 2 роки тому

    LOVE the way chawkta sounds

  • @bas5693
    @bas5693 3 роки тому +3

    I’m Choctaw Indian..... I used to live in Oklahoma but I moved to Alaska am I do have a lot of family members that live in Oklahoma still

  • @savannahtheequestrian263
    @savannahtheequestrian263 2 роки тому

    I'm Choctaw but I don't know much about the language so this helps a lot

  • @t3nstudios647
    @t3nstudios647 4 роки тому +7

    We now have a digital dictionary! Lol

  • @emilygold7170
    @emilygold7170 4 роки тому +10

    Yeah, that's not exactly how we speak Chahta or pronounce it. Good luck and keep learning.

  • @regisidec5478
    @regisidec5478 2 роки тому +1

    I’m Choctaw of Mississippi

  • @michaeldavis9190
    @michaeldavis9190 4 роки тому +11

    I live in Pushmataha county lol, and I have no clue who Pushmataha is. Oklahoma's education system is a joke.

    • @contumacious5506
      @contumacious5506 4 роки тому

      Hey Doofus, don't blame your own ignorance on your teachers. I grew up in Broken Bow, Oklahoma and have known about Pushmataha and others my whole life. Several elementary and middle school teachers were Choctaw, and we sometimes attended a Choctaw church.

    • @michaeldavis9190
      @michaeldavis9190 4 роки тому +4

      @@contumacious5506 I don't blame the teachers. MOST of my teachers were fine, but Oklahoma's education system is objectively horrible. I have not lived in Oklahoma my whole life, nor do I live in Broken Bow, nor have I ever attended a Choctaw church. Broken Bow is significantly more Choctaw than the town I live in. If Pushmataha is so important, then I should have learned about him in school. Your knowledge of Pushmataha is not a result of you studying, it's something you obtained through osmosis due to your environment. I was not in said environment. The fact of the matter is that you had people to educate you, and i did not. If you know who Pushmataha is and I don't, wouldn't it be more productive to educate me than berate me for my ignorance?

    • @chrystadelacruz9293
      @chrystadelacruz9293 3 роки тому

      Maybe others are to blame maybe not. I seek out knowledge myself. I'm from California and I knew who he was. Maybe u should educate yourself.

    • @KateeAngel
      @KateeAngel 3 роки тому

      Here in Russia it is often hardly better. Depends on a school, of course. Mine had a good English language, and was specialized on it, but anything else suffered. We haven't learned anything about Winter war in history lessons, even though it is a really important and recent historical event for my native town Vyborg. I believe because our country is so large and diverse, local history should be a special subject in every region,along with Russian history and world history

    • @SmashinAdams
      @SmashinAdams 3 роки тому

      Like every other old chief, he was a slaver. Tikba ihiya.

  • @marshe2244
    @marshe2244 2 роки тому +1

    You should do Yup'ik!

  • @RelenaJenn
    @RelenaJenn 3 роки тому +1

    Do you know how to say "Oh, wife my dear"?
    I am trying to figureout this Native American, song that was passed down.
    I used to think it was Cherokee, but one lady told me it sounded like Choctaw.
    Granny used to sing it as well, my sister said Granny father also used to sing it.
    I really am trying to find out which tribe it would be from. It isn't easy and all. So, any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!!! (If you can help at all.)

  • @ELYYY99
    @ELYYY99 Місяць тому

    We still speak it in Chicago.

  • @rjaschoctaw
    @rjaschoctaw 2 роки тому +1

    Mississippi Choctaw here 🤙

  • @Wild.win.
    @Wild.win. 3 роки тому

    Love the channel name

  • @DarkovNyteGaming
    @DarkovNyteGaming 3 роки тому

    Native Americans didn’t get citizenship until 1920’s and didn’t get to use our traditional ceremonies until 1970’s

  • @TD-ir5xw
    @TD-ir5xw 2 роки тому +2

    Ummm we do NOT wear headdresses. 🤦‍♀️

  • @noahinson
    @noahinson 2 роки тому +1

    Im chickasaw so choctaw isnt 100% understandable to me, but the stuff that is intelligible was relatively good!

  • @georgeherbertcarson7538
    @georgeherbertcarson7538 2 роки тому +2

    A lot of black Americans(aboriginals) in the Louisiana Mississippi area are Chata (Choctaw) and don’t even know it. Our classification was changed over time.

    • @TD-ir5xw
      @TD-ir5xw 2 роки тому +4

      Stop appropriation

    • @chiefchosen8126
      @chiefchosen8126 2 роки тому

      Yes you're correct I'm CHAHTA By LINEAGE OUR NATIONALITIES WERE STOLEN FROM US MY PEOPLE NEVER WORE SLAVES WE OWNED OUR OWN LANDS I AM THE AMERICAN INDIAN ON ALL SIDES OF MY FAMILY FULL BLOOD BUT THEY WANT TO STEAL OUR LANDS AND CALL US AFRICAN WHEN WE'RE NOT THEY'RE THE INVADERS FROM SIBERIA

    • @leeema5119
      @leeema5119 2 роки тому

      stop you're embarassong, those of us who are actually african and choctaw and suffered from these policies don't like you fools taking our struggles to deny the fact that you are all CLEARLY black african as hell. I am proud to be black, I am proud to be choctaw. Own your ancestry, stop taking the slave master narrative that stated africa and africans were inferior.

    • @LM-ki5ll
      @LM-ki5ll 2 роки тому

      no top, those of us who are actually black and choctaw dont appreciate this b.s. revision of history or reality. You are african.

  • @WeLoveWarzone
    @WeLoveWarzone 3 роки тому

    Hachi hohchiloh natah?

  • @BuffalosHeard
    @BuffalosHeard 3 роки тому

    No...I doubt it.

  • @courtneysisneros1293
    @courtneysisneros1293 4 роки тому +4

    Chahta anumpa anumpuli chommi la hinla

    • @contumacious5506
      @contumacious5506 4 роки тому

      Chahta im-anumpa chohmi-hosh anumpoli-l-ahinla

  • @nzjosiah
    @nzjosiah 3 роки тому

    Pushmataha is my great great great grandfather!

    • @justbamsy9285
      @justbamsy9285 2 роки тому +1

      Sooo.. we’re related

    • @nzjosiah
      @nzjosiah 2 роки тому

      @@justbamsy9285 well hey there fam!

    • @melinichole9578
      @melinichole9578 2 роки тому +1

      Hello family I’m related as well

    • @TD-ir5xw
      @TD-ir5xw 2 роки тому +2

      Surrrrreeeeeee 🤦‍♀️🤣

  • @TD-ir5xw
    @TD-ir5xw 2 роки тому

    Why are you talking smack about Oklahoma. Grow up.

  • @ErinIshimoticha
    @ErinIshimoticha 2 роки тому

    It’s “iksa” not “iska”.

  • @JNTR-he8lq
    @JNTR-he8lq 3 роки тому +3

    All those pics and not one true Choctaw (Chahta) Indian shown!!! You only showed $5 indians 🤣🤣😂🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @leeema5119
      @leeema5119 2 роки тому

      you're gonna be black whether you call people $5 or not stay mad and a 🦝

    • @LM-ki5ll
      @LM-ki5ll 2 роки тому +1

      you arent either

    • @JNTR-he8lq
      @JNTR-he8lq 2 роки тому +1

      @@LM-ki5ll you absolutely right “Choctaw” is a white oppressor’s term! Not even a original name! Don’t be mad just OVERstand what u trying to make an argument about!! 🤡😂😂😂

    • @stormy-le6pb
      @stormy-le6pb Рік тому

      @J.NTR $5 Indians are Black people like Dane Calloway & Blacks who have this myth that they have Indian in their family & DNA proved they had zero American markers. $5 Indian Dane Calloway was arrested for selling fraudulent Native American genealogy charts to other desperate $5 Indian black people.

    • @stormy-le6pb
      @stormy-le6pb Рік тому

      J.NTR $5 Indians have nothing at all to do with Native Americans. The 1st $5 Indians were white men & now the 2nd $5 Indians are the black men. Blacks always copy cat what white people do & they want to do it next, so blacks are the 21st century $5 Indian

  • @mrrants2590
    @mrrants2590 2 роки тому

    Chi chata anumpa achokmali tok