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Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald - Movie Review
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- Опубліковано 14 лис 2018
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Chris Stuckmann reviews Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, starring Eddie Redmayne, Katherine Waterston, Dan Fogler, Alison Sudol, Ezra Miller, Jude Law, Johnny Depp. Directed by David Yates.
Chris looks like a disappointed parent in the thumbnail
Gavin’s Friend where’s Gavin
Chris grew up with disappointed parents
the first fantastic beasts was pretty shitty to IMO
Please please review The Ballad of Buster Scruggs or The Other Side of the Wind
Insanepie 881689 GAVIN
“This is the worst Harry Potter movie”
Just wait until the film adaption of Cursed Child
Please no. Oh God no. No.
Was thinking the exact same thing.
Cursed Child never happened
They will probably make Hermione black again.
Is this happening? Gods help us
I agree 100% about Dumbledore needing more screen time. Jude Law played the character perfectly and you could really see how he would over time grow into the Dumbledore in HP 3-8.
Rowling had too much freedom. She's no screenplay writer. She's a book author. She needs a supervisor.
I agree , writing a screenplay is so different than a a book that's why harry potter films were good because jk rowling didn't involve in the writing process.
@@samersamer4783 We can only hope WB has learnt a lesson from this.
This movie could have been saved if she wrote it as a book first, then hire a screenwriter to help her with this movie.
She thinks too highly of her own writing skill. Just because someone is good at writing books doesn't mean they can write a good movie.
@@darrelsam419 She's gone the Anne Rice route of thinking her writing is perfect therefore she doesn't need an editor. Anne Rice's writing had a sharp decline when she fired her editor, and JK Rowling's writing took a sharp decline when she has to mash a whole book's worth of plot into a 2 hour film
Tia Aaron, so how do you explain the success of the first one? Something happened that was different in the second one. I just don’t know what.
JK has gone full George Lucas with these prequels. Never go full George Lucas.
One day, this comment is going to have 1k likes
I agree
I hate to be that guy but I like the prequels fight me
???? ¿¿¿¿ They are bad and you should feel bad for liking them.
Jeff K nope I don’t feel bad for liking something
I kinda missed Colin Farrell. He was way more intimidating.
Not really
Exactly
He's arguably the better actor
@@wahidahmed2525 Better than Depp?
@@liampatrick3110 yes. Depp had great movies in the 90's. Now most of his characters are just goofy af. Compared to that Colin had better performances & movies like in bruge, the lobster, the gentlemen etc
The fact that Jacob could remember what happened was bullshit. He says that the good memories of magic remained and he remembered everything. That means that there must be dozens or more people in the city that remember everything still because finding out that magic is real would not be a bad memory to most people. Therefore TONS of muggles are just boppin about knowing what happened?
Jacob was pretty much the only muggle having a good experience with magic in the first film... The rest would probably only associate it with fear and terror...
The others saw destruction and terror and why would they relate it to magic? If i saw explosion the first thing i would think about are bombs. Maybe some even remember bits about the bird but probably too afraid to even consider it real and just thinking it was a dream
No, at the end of Fantastic beasts 1, he didn't remember anything. Queenie must have given him his memory back.
Yep, classic JKR magic system inconsistency
@@666m111 I propose you to watch 1 again, because it was clearly stated that he remembers and why. I wasn't surprised at all that Jacob showed in 2, as it was not even hinted - we saw him remembering in first movie!
5/10 not enough fantastic beasts, too many people
Quite literally "cool story, needs more dragons"
1/10 Garbage movie with a fuck ton of retcons and fuck JK Rowling for saying those ridiculous statements about the characters in her books. She literally doesn’t care anymore and also she is just ashamed over the fact that she wrote a series of books that only includes white and straight people.
It’s like she has no clue about her own source material anymore because the movie keeps breaking the Harry Potter canon constantly. Also there is no reason why this movie should exist. This movie is so fucking bad that I can’t even believe that it was made.
First one I'll give an A-. This one is a D+
In classic fashion though, there will be a sequel where they give us loads of fantastic beasts but then the critics will say there was no character development but in this movie there was so Much character development but NO GODDAMN FANTASTIC BEASTS!!!
The first one struck a balance
Why can’t they do it again!!!
I wish Rowling would just stop retconning shit. Just make a new story and stop changing established lore and characters.
I'm sure she'll yell at everyone on Twitter who says it this time around too. I miss the old Rowling. I think the money's gone to her head and she's lost the artist side of herself.
It’s her story at the end of the day and she made it. If she wants to add things she definitely should. It’s not my right or yours or anyone’s to tell her not to do with her creation whatever she pleases.
@@issaosama4937 Anyone has the right to say they don't like it and criticize it.
She just short of a bit of cash and now on auto pilot at least she not going anywhere near Never Ending Story Remakes lol
Kinda like what i would like Star wars to do...i'm grateful for the competent Filmmaking...But like Chris said on sardonicast,i would like unconnected stories.
_The real crime in this movie is just it's so boring..._
- Chris Stuckmann
Old Chris is back. Giving ratings by movies ability to entertain and/or educate, instead of how cool or not, were special effects.
You miss quoted him dude
He's right. This movie was a joke. As a Potterhead, this was crushing.
Yea, I was actually more entertained by the dude straight up snoring to the left of me. And this was in a semi packed Dolby theatre...
Im a big potter head and man this movie was amazing
“Relentlessly boring” yep. I fell asleep my first time watching
I forgot the whole plot on the drive home from the theatre.
I fell asleep during the first one
And I thought the 1st film was boring to watch lol. Will watch it on Netflix next month (September 2020).
@@bluemartian9642 HAhahaha exactly me, man me and my friends looked so disappointed after we got out of that movie
I mean I fell asleep when Dumbledore and Grindelwald weren't on screen. I find myself a bit bored with both characters weren't on screen
Best sleep I ever had in a movie theatre.
Hahaha
Should've just made prequel series about Dumbledore. That would be awesome.
Agreed. I was hoping it would slowly be turning into that but who knows. I guess he's barely in it
I think that’s the thing that baffles me most about all of this. There is SO much they could have done so many interesting stories to tell and yet here we are
@@jennb3112 Seriously. And why retcon things like Nagini? Just seems very random
@@jennb3112 I guess they wanted a new franchise for children with "fantastic beasts" that gets more serious as the supposed fans grow up with it. But the problem is, it doesn't and won't have any fans to grow up.
Yeah, or maybe just tell the story from different points of view as a sort of anthology series. Regardless, let the first one just be Newt Scamander's relatively lighthearted story where he unexpectedly intersects with Grindelwald, and move on. Have the next one focus on Dumbledore and his relationship with Grindelwald. If there's more material to mine out of that story line, sure stay with Dumbledore.
But it feels really weird to me that Newt Scamander and the "Fantastic Beasts" name is getting shoved into a larger narrative about the rise of Grindelwald. It feels nakedly motivated by a desire to establish an new brand in the Harry Potter universe, and it just makes for a weird and unfocused story.
Dude, twice in one night?! I have to sleep, for God’s sake. Stop Stuckmannizing me, man!
Chris 👱🏻 can 👍 Stuckmannize 👅🤤 me 😁 as much as 🎉🎉 he 👱🏻 wants 👌
Mark Parkinson pause
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@Commander Shepard Hahaha. 😂😂😂
Voldemort was scary because he was barely human and incredibly dangerous with a wand.. grindelwald is also incredibly dangerous with a wand but is a master manipulator. They showed how he is always 100% calm in any situation and can persuade/manipulate people into following him with utter ease. That's what makes grindelwald so terrifying. He's a completely fresh and different villain to voldemort
0llieftw exactly! I think chris missed the point
And still, even if on paper he is terrifying because of his persuasive nature and powerful abilities, in the movie he didn't seem to have much relevance beyond "being the villain". He just talked and talked, and talked. He does not feel like the constant threat Voldemort used to be.
the fact that most of his followers didn't see what he did at the end of the movie makes him feel like a cult leader type of manipulator. in this respect i could see why he is extremely dangerous besides being very powerful as a wizard.
@@OhSo_Bear depends how people see fear. If you're afraid of someone with a scary face and incredible power with no conscience then voldemort will be better or if you fear someone with incredible power and the ability to manipulate so he gets whatever he wants whenever he wants then grindelwald is going to be a scarier villain
0llieftw You forget Voldemort’s Tom Riddle years. Talk about manipulation...
I thought the best scenes in this film were the flashbacks at Hogwarts. I'm not just saying that because of nostalgia, that's where I was most invested. All of the Dumbledore scenes were really good, and I do really like Newt. But I feel like we didn't get to see so many important moments. We just haven't spent enough time with these characters. There was way too much going on and yet not much going on at the same time, which is what makes the film seem boring. It's just hard to get invested right now, I really want to see Chris do a spoiler review on it.
What the heck is J.K. Rowling doing with these films?
Making $$$$$
@Fotus Knight lmao you're just pathetic
Fantastic Beasts and the Crimes of Grindelwald is the Harry Potter version of the Attack of the Clones.
@@JNeedleVidsI am sorry, I don't want to quarrel with you but George Lucas made prequels because people wanted him to make them for a very long time. He was always hesitant about it. And prequels had to be trilogy because you couldn't tell anakins whole story in one film. The fact that first two are bad is another story.
You know what was made only for money? Hobbit? You could easily tell the story in 3hours long movie but they made trilogy out of it for no reason but money.
George is actually a nice guy and it really hurt him when after all those years people were begging him to make prequels they started shitting on him and making fun of him.
He knew exactly what he wanted to tell and he told it. I appreciate prequels for that, even though they are mostly disappointment.
And don't forget that after selling SW to Disney, which he did because he wanted the franchise to continue but was to resistant to do it himself...he donated 70% of money he got from Disney to charities. Also he doesn't have any money from new movies now. Please, don't shit on him, he is truly nice guy compared to others
Void Darkness I mean its kind of true. Normally I would say an artists politics, is their own business. But its hard to ignore, when an artist directly injects it into their work, to the point that it affects the actual plot. Even that wouldnt be an issue, if the writing was well done. But there have been so many times, where JK Rowling cared more about her social political stance, that she was willing to cram it into a plot point, even if it wasnt earned. Even if it weakened it. Even worse, is that JK has a history of retconning past plot, in favor of pushing her social political views.
Like I said, if an artist wants their work to be political, thats fine. You can even disagree strongly with it, but if the writing is really great, then it speaks for itself. For the record, I liked the first Fantastic Beasts. Altho there was definitely some eye rolling moments because of what I said above. But I think the characters and the world building carried the film.
Two words: COLIN FARRELL.
To be honest, I would not have enjoyed Fantastic Beasts as much as I had had Colin Farrell not been in it. He brought such a menace and gravitas to the role, it elevated the stakes to such a level. It would've been great is the character of Percival Graves had been a secondary antagonist rather than Grindewald himself, just so we could get an excuse to see more of that tension. *sighs*
Erised Moon Colin Farrell should have been Grindelwald.
Fuck yeah. Why the hell did they settle with Depp though? Whether or not he assaulted Amber Heard, Grindelwald should have been Colin Farrell. The guy is a menacing presence.
I literally laughed when Johnny Depp was revealed in that movie. He looked so utterly ridiculous, though to be fair, it's not his fault that the make-up artists made him look like an albino walrus lol.
But yeah, they shoulda stuck with Colin Farrel regardless. I felt like he was the only good actor in the movie, minus Jacob Kawolski, who was pretty good too.
@@elliemoon88 I very audibly laughed too. It was just absurd. 10 years ago, I would have expected Johnny Depp to turn up in ridiculous makeup in practically any movie. But I really thought we were past that.
Colin was the star besides Jacob of the first film. Missed him here.
They need to switch the director to give a new wind in the franchise.
Also have someone else convert JK's ideas to film format. It felt like she wrote the script for a book and not a movie.
A series would ge better with how JK is writing the script.
I agree!!
This movie really showed that J.K. Rowling doesn't know how to write a good screenplay. There were several moments in the movie where I felt like things happened or characters showed up simply because they were in the book that the movie is based off of, but then I remembered there is no book to explain any of that confusing stuff.
grievous444 the movie felt like it was trying to replicate the slow but intense pace and dramatic reveals of Game of Thrones, but failed.
@@judaychop That is literally Yates's m.o. He thinks he's an Fantasy Epic Film Director when really he's a Heady Drama Film Director. Maybe if he approached the film as a heady drama, he would be more successful, unfortunately, he continues to try to be bigger than he is. He shouldn't have ever been allowed to do HP 6, much less continue the franchise with Fantastic Beasts.
YOU MEAN WRITER.
A C? That was very generous of you Chris.
My score. A D-
Agreed, the only good thing about this is the score and the first 5 minutes.
CHRIS "The real crime of this movie it is just so boring" LOL So Sad to hear the is not enough Dumbledore
@@toxeyboyo Yeah I think it's bc there is too much characters
They have a decent foundation in the first film; they should have developed the main quartet (newt, tina, jacob, queenie) and flesh out their character more. The dumbledore and grindelwald story line is fine, and lol all the others character could be swept away since they're all so unnecessary.
yeah every character relationship built up in the first one was just skipped over and destroyed in the new one, like yeah they hate each other now
Develope? They DID. That was what P1 did. They served up the the Core peeps. However I would say that the "other characters" are just as relevant as the core. Nowadays viewers are less and less connected with thick plot. That is not a misstep by the writer but a indictment of the viewers ability to keep up. Soooo sorry it isn't a 15 minute cartoon, and that's with commercials. Or a meme in a your next face book surf.
What they did to Queenie's character is OUTRAGEOUS
the trailer for this movie was insane and made Grindelwald a badass. But once you watch the movie you can cringe at how badly they wrote him into the plot
That's what I hate about this movie industry
His "persuasion" was total bullshit and lame.
It generally went along the lines of, Grindelwald murmuring, "You know you want to join me..."
Person that seemed like a good, nice person throughout the movie: "No! I don't! Go away!"
"You know you want to join... it's your destiny...."
"aaahhh... okay maybe I'll join you"
@@jajajinks1569 lol
They wrote everyone into the plot poorly, even the characters established in the previous film. This is the worst big budget film I've seen in years.
Hassan Siddiqui *She, it was written by Rowling.. that’s why it’s so sad.
The thumbnail looks like Chris is rethinking life...
Takin a dump
john smith taco bell face lol
@@stevangonzalez5908 hee hee
Or taking a 12 pound dump
I saw the movie yesterday and I have no idea why Steve Kloves and David Yates didn't tell JK that the screenplay for this was just garbage. I am a huge Potterhead and I kind of think I see where Rowling is going with that big "reveal" at the end, and it might be genius, but most of the movie just feels unnecessary
Where is she going?
This film felt like a first draft that needed a big edit.
I have a feeling the contract between JK Rowling and Warner Bros gives her ultimate authority on the screenplay.
RENEHIKO I know... Yates is a great director, when he’s given good material. He did the best with what he had, but this movie’s subpar quality is due to JK Rowling, as she is taking everything that people loved in the first film and making it bland and boring. The Thestral Chase and the end twist were pretty cool, but this is a movie that doesn’t know its place. What “crimes” did Grindelwald commit in this movie? Like 5 and they’re all typical villain things
RENEHIKO how is it genius
I had hoped Grindewald's crime would involve an unknown beast (maybe Nagini?) which will make Newt want to investigate.
There weren't enough fantastic beasts in the movie.
*Acts like it’s epic?*
*Long drawn out film that thinks its way better than it is?*
So it’s essentially Batman vs Superman with wizards
@Batmandude 17 no way
@@advh6426 My cat's vomit is considered a masterpiece compared to this....
A movie with Batman and Superman going to Hogwarts would be a trillion times better than Batman v Superman and Crimes of Grindlewald put together.
literally the same thing I was thinking Lol
Should've asked your wife to join you on this review Chris, just saying.
yes! for a spoiler discussion video!
maybe :)
@@SamLizS I know right~ :9
@@rk-ve6jy Seconded!
That would be so great! I love it when we get to see the two of them together.
3:23 There isn't that much Depp-th to it...?
...ok I'll leave
Arcadgel Please do.
no stay! ... so we can kick you out
honestly I laughed so hard at this xD
Badum-tsh.
my thoughts exactly xD
The scene with Leta's bogart and the flashback of her brothers death was so haunting, and really beautifully shot. But moments like that were pretty few and far between for me in this film. Was anyone else thrown off by the constant POV shots? The cinematography and production design was just gorgeous, but in terms of filmmaking, this is easily David Yates worst one so far. All of his previous Harry Potter films were so well made, including the first Fantastic Beasts. But I had a lot more issues with the filmmaking in this one than I was expecting. I think it's time to see a new director step in for this series. Obviously the script has major issues, but I cant say the movie was that well directed either.
MY GOD THE POV SHOTS
Same.
The POV shots and the tons of Slo-mo shots were extremely distracting
The pov was so awkward! Thank god I'm not alone in this!
What I want to know is when Dumbledore gave up the suits and started wearing those dope ass robes.
Not only was the script a massive problem, but even the directing felt off from Yates's usual level of talent. So many awkward close-up shots, especially near the start, with people just staring into the camera as if they're in the trailer for a Barry Jenkins movie. Plus one distracting shot in a classroom with Zoe Kravitz that does away with the beautiful steady cam shots of the rest of the movie in favour of shaky handheld. A very specific complaint, I know, but still...
I thought that freecam moment was really janky too!
I noticed this too. It was jarring.
Yeah, that was weird. I wasn’t sure what to think when it suddenly cut to shaky cam.
Lol I too noticed that shaky cam 😛🤣
Not as if yates directing was any good to begin with
I consider myself a MASSIVE fan and I have to kind of agree. While I found a lot of enjoyment in the film myself I was annoyed by the big twist, and unlike Fantastic Beasts I would not recommend this movie to my friends or non hp fans. Its really quite disappointing considering how great fantastic beasts was. Thanks for a great review Chris.
Ashlee Pradella I’m still seeing it even though I am a fan of HP
This movie is epic
It's epic
Fantastic Beasts was awful. Crimes of Grindelwald was great
@@m.o.485 do u know that crimes of grindelwald is fantastic Beasts. Fantastic beasts the crimes of grindelwald is the best movie ever and wizarding world is the best franchise
Grindelwald and Dumbledore are by far the most interesting and best characters barely get screen time.
Way too many characters
Finally watched this... Masterpiece. It's like someone swapped the script for a bad fanfic and they actually shot it.
Indeed. Considering all the shipping around and forced "THESE TWO ARE A COUPLE EH", it does look like a bad fanfic!
I didn't like the movie but I actually really liked Grindelwald
Bernard same
Me, too. Strawman kind of had a point, which I appreciated. At least I now get why people would follow him. He's good at being a fascist.
Me too
I hated the character means he did a great job..
Grindelwald is awesome
I have mixed feeling about this movie. The first one was better.
-The storyline was extremely weak. The first act with Newt and his animals was interesting, but the second act was dragging the storyline. The story only built up with conflict and more conflict without a proper climax in the movie.
-Leta’s storyline was full of plot holes and mostly dragging the movie. There is a scene which includes her talking for the entire scene which I felt it was kind of unnecessary and makes you roll your eyes and go ‘uhh, can we move on to next part now?’ I liked Zoe’s acting, but it’s just David Yate’s poor storytelling skills.
-There were a lot of UNNECESSARY SUPPORTING CHARACTERS. Like seriously, the movie could have been 100% fine without them.
-The title 'Fantastic beasts’ sounds like an mere excuse.
-Nagini and McGonagall were useless. Fanservice.
-I hate Grindelwald makeup. He looks like a weirdo out of a Tim Burton movie here.
-Dumbledore with Muggles clothes? No.
-The twist in the last scene left me...speechless. What is it, Cursed Child?
What twist
Ok, I agree about Nagini. With McGonagall though, why couldn’t it have been her? There was no reason to introduce a random nameless character to show up for five minutes when they could include her for that little bit of fan service. As for that ending “twist” three simple google searches blow it entirely out of the water
Literally everyone seems to wear muggle clothes now.
Katrina Heller
David yate? You do know that JK Rowling is the one that wrote the script.
What was the twist?
Dumbledoore and Grindleward was great though and perfectly acted
Sadly both have almost nothing to do.
@@christianschmidt8476 And that's Rowling's fault who wrote Dumbledore and Grindelwald into a bland character while Jude Law and Johnny Depp did their best with the material they were given
Am i the only one who really liked the movie?
You are not alone, I liked it a lot, huge fan of Harry Potter also... i don’t understand all the hate, it has it’s problems... but i truly enjoyed it.
yes
No I'm with you
@Stereo Typist yeah man, everything has to suck to these bastards but things from back in the 90's and 2000's is masterpiece, fuck off 2010's >>>>>>>>>>>>90's
I loved this movie as well. It is better than the first Fantastic Beasts.
Chris grew up as a *Fantastic Beast*
Is that his nickname in bed?
Can understand the disappointment then
I think we need to watch the movie for this reference
Chris I believe what happened with this movie is that it had too much and, personally, something that should be avoided. I mean, I don't think there was anything to tell. Not much depth. I call it the Spider-Man 3 syndrome: too many characters and sub-plots. And I would have preferred a single spin-off story about Grindelwald and his motivations.
Funnily enough. I rewatchd spiderman 3 recently. I went in it remembering not liking it and everyone tends to say it's bad but honestly. It's quite good. And in many ways has more heart than many of the super heroes coming out today. It's a little unfocused but definently not a movie that doesn't have substance.
You have as many characters and subplots in Heat or in Dark Knight and it works perfectly while taking only 10 or 15 minutes more...this movie could be cut to hour and half and you wouldnt miss anything. The problem is with her incapability to adapt book into screenplay...It is completely different kind of writing. As if you said you could do a symphony for orchestra because you can write a song with guitars and drums.
This movie is epic
This movie is perfect
@@bruh3128 It's your opinion and you have the right to keep it
To me it's just a transition movie to guide us to the third movie, it showed us how Grindelwald managed to get Credence to believe him so that he could bring Credence with him as a future weapon :)
I liked it and the different plots worked quite together to bring us to the end of the movie. I didn't find it confusing or boring at all!
Yeah, I'm totally agree with you. It is like the step to the third movie. In this movie they only give us information and answer questions. That's all
I liked it~ I found the connections interesting, and I find Newt really awesome (he reminds me of a student I tutor)
They had the perfect Grindelwald in the first one (Colin Farrell) and replaced him with Jonny Depp
johnny depp lost his mojo years ago. he plays the same weird character.
Ethan you hit the nail on the head
Yes!!!!
@@Revan-eb1wb I would have agreed with that comment, until I watched his performance as Whitey Bulgar in "Black Mass" back in 2015. Give it a gander. He's terrifyingly phenomenal in it.
@@ComedyBros5 i saw the movie. yes, he was great in it. but thats it. one movie in like a million years. he just picks too many shitty movies and shitty roles
Wow. Even though you aren't going that great in terms of network and stuff, you still upload 2 vids in 1 day. 👏👏👏👏Respect to you bro.
Some Kid t
Man's gotta eat.
The thing I liked about the first Fantastic Beasts movie was getting to know the characters so intimately, and the promise of knowing them even better in the future. It was interesting because with the Potter books/movies, we saw the characters grow up, but with Fantastic Beasts, they were adults already; we had no idea what their lives had been up to this point. I loved getting to know Newt as the awkward, gentle hero, and Tina as the bolder, defensive rule-following heroine (who is a bit awkward herself). Then there was the delightful Jacob, Queenie, Credence, Graves/Grindelwald (who was far more intriguing as Graves), and others.
Then, in Crimes of Grindelwald (which I saw only once, and forgot most of the plot immediately), they just sort of stop. Sure, we get a little background about Newt and others from the flashbacks. But somehow they took these lovely characters from the first movie and made me stop caring about them. Tina’s mad at Newt because of a stupidly-contrived misunderstanding? They hardly talk to each other in the movie, but when Newt does talk it’s...poetic? (Actually, it’s a ridiculous and improbable mix of awkward and poetic.) Jacob is back (yes!), but with no buildup? Theseus and Leta, neither of whom we’ve met yet, are suddenly engaged? What’s up with Credence exactly? And don’t get me started on Queenie.
As for the plot, I don’t understand how a movie with so much seemingly happening at once can also feel like filler. The characters barely interacted, and when they did it was disappointing. The “twists” and sad moments were so strange that I hardly cared about them (and I WANTED to care!).
All in all, as a huge Harry Potter fan, I was hugely disappointed. I can only hope that whatever went so terribly wrong will be fixed in the next movie.
I appreciate your honest, well thought out critique of this film. I personally enjoyed it but I loved listening to your thoughts.
Fantastic Waste: The Crimes of Warner Bros
its JK Rowling. WB cannot make any decisions in this franchise
Crimes of J.K Rowling you mean?
caio lucas Bingo 😁
Pegasus 1127 And I suppose WB had no say in stretching this franchise into 5 movies at least? Besides this is hardly the first time a franchise has suffered under their guidance *cough* DC *cough*
Peter Wilson wb has rights over dc. They can do whatever they want. Harry Potter on the other hand is owned by Rowling. She has made a contract with them.. She tells the stories n even the casting decision i guess and wb does the movies.. So stretching into 5 or 10 is her idea.
Got to love sequels to prequels
Exactly...it gets ridiculous at some point
brandon ellis exactly lol
I pretty sure it went like this
Chris: "Wow..."
Sam: (Sad) "Chrissy... That movie was so disappointing..."
Chris: (Hug) "I know..."
Just picked it up at Redbox.
Wife fell asleep in 20 min, I started playing switch and hour in then still it went on... I never truly understood what was going on....... not anyone's intentions good guys or bad guys.... who the fuck are the characters and why am I supposed to care other then the cast from the first film
RedBox still exists?
Fantastic Cash Grab and the Crimes of Johnny Depp.
Cherry Stone lol
I really do no blame Johnny Depp for this movie. JK Rowling is a great author of novels but is a bad screen writer. She dumped so much info, it is very hard to appreciate the end of the movie
@@1rjona I like Johnny Depp but he was really boring and not memorable. The movie has to much useless plot and a filler for the next film. I was really angry watching this as a huge HP fan.
@@rayray117 Yes, but why was he boring and not memorable? Could it be the lines he was given? Because the plot did not make sense. For this you need to blame screenwriter, who is JK Rowling. I really wished she just made another novel
I was fine with dep and law. My main issue was nagini. Completely pointless.
I hated the fact that:
Leta dies (along with her convoluted plot with Yusuf Kama)
Queenie goes insane and Tina doesn't react
Nagini was useless
Grindelwald and Dumbledore weren't gay (or shown to be intimate with eachother)
The Philospher Stone was never used
Credence is actually Aurelius Dumbledore
The main quartet (Newt, Tina, Jacob and Queenie) were very underwhelming and less character driven
Yeah I thought what's up with Queenie? She's total nuts in this movie suddenly.
Credence might be the child of the 3 muggles raping Ariana, and he might be carrying her Obscurus which would be GENIUS if that's what Grindelwald meant with "your brother wants to kill you" (he was not speaking to Credence but to Ariana) but still, agree to all of what you wrote
My brain when i heard Aurelius 🤯. It also didn make sense to me n i just felt like it was pulled out of the ass. But then again the theory of ariana.
Those were really the only problems when I watched it. It was a bit slow but I liked it still
I think they showed the romance between Grindlewald and Dumbledore in a very subtle and mature way.
Yes lets hate a movie cause "mA faVoUriTE wiZaRD isNT gAy"
That morgue scene was a masterclass in how NOT to do exposition dumps.
I absoultely loved the film and saw it 3 times over the corse of it's opening weekend...mostly to make sense of all that's going on. I see this addition as a stepping-stone of sorts for the next films, so I have faith that Rowling knows the story she wants to pan out over these films, and things will be cleared up in the next 3 installments. I'm just so excited about the plot twist.
Lol
Lol.
J. K. Rowling created this amazing universe. Ok. Fair enough.
But in term of movies and screenplay, she should stay away.
This review is just sad, honestly. But I will go see the movie anyway.
I'm fine if she writes the basic story but leave the screenplay to the professionals. Stay along for the ride. Give and reject ideas as a producer, but leave the writing to an actual screenwriter.
I agree....she is amazing writer...From Harry Potter to Strike books, I love her style and the way she explores the story. But that is something very different than writing screenplay. In book you have as many pages as you want but in script you are limited. No one wants to see the movie that has 3 hours. So you have to make cuts in characters and story. She simply can't do that and many others cannot either. Book adaptations are very difficult and the longer book(or story) is the more difficult it is to adapt it.
I write screenplays but I would never even dare to write a book, because you have to have different kind of tools and there is nothing wrong about that.
Also, I believe she might be able to write a great script, but in order to do that she would have to be limited to only one or two films...when you know you can make 5 films and still make a shit ton of money, you don't care how weak the story is...you have three more movies to tell a simple story that could be told in two films and it would be amazing(fast pace, less and only important characters, etc)
Problem is who at Warner Brothers is going to say NO to J.K. Rowling?
Shes an incredibly limited writer, when you compare her writing in books and film to that of say...George RR Martin, who has a plan for a story and doesnt keep writing things up as he goes thru the years unlike Rowling, you really see it, George has written many of the episodes of Game of thrones himself and the dialogue and pacing, and everything is absolutely perfection, Rowling just doesnt know how to write a movie and everyone is too scared at this point to say anything back to her, it's like how no one wanted to call George Lucas out for the god awful script for the prequels ,rather sad actually because she had a creative vision and she created an amazing and iconic world that I loved as a kid and she is just tearing it down herself
Chris I like your beard, please keep it
Do you like my beard too?
Fuck me now maT!
Not to disrespect Chris, but no one is as good as growing a beard as Isaac Butterfield.
Mark Parkinson Lol true
Movie Night u bet
In my opinion Grindelwald in this movie wasn't bad. He was freaking cool.
My favorite moment of the movie when Grindelwald threw his "needy" pet from the sky
SPOILERS AHEAD
I must say I'm quite surprised by the negative reviews about this movie, since I very much enjoyed it. I agree on the part with the things that don't make sense, there were a few in there, but as far as I can see there were no major plotholes (tho I only saw it once, so I might have missed something) so I can totally look over those small things. I don't think there is stuff that needs to be cut out, and for me it also didn't feel that slowpaced, but it was rather that things were happening very quick. There was a LOT of content but for me it didn't feel like it was over the top. The CGI was droolworthy, not only the end fight (which was absolutely epic imo) but also the beginning with Grindelwald which I really really liked. The actors were brilliant, Eddie Redmayne ofc, Jude Law too, and who surprised me most is Johnny Depp because I think he portrayed Grindelwald amazingly. The movie is a lot darker than the one before, and while at the beginning (before the 1st) I was wondering wth they wanted to make 5 movies about, but I'm beginning to understand how widespread that story is and I love how there are so many parallel plots and so many different locations. I do have a few critique points, one being Nagini, because while I like the idea, she seemed kinda unnecessary in this movie and just like JK wanted to collect some Brownie Points for diversity in the cast. I really really hope we will see more of her in the following movies. Another thing I didn't like was how the (romantic) relationship between Dumbledore and Grindelwald didn't get touched on too much. I mean we see them in the Mirror of Erised (yes Dumbledore, sure you see a pair of socks), but idk, I had hoped for more. Here too I hope we get more in the movies to come. But all in all, I'm absolutely stunned by the movie and I love it, it was dark, it was complicated, there were some really cute and lighthearted and funny scenes too (the Baby Nifflers are my favourites), and while I'm mostly confused about the 'Credence being Aurelius Dumbledore' thingie I like it because it is something I didn't expect. And I'm looking forward to the explanation/clarification that we will hopefully get in the next movie(s).
i dont think this movie was poor written, the story line actually not that bad, the costumes, CGI......the movie has the best visual, but the negative reviews come from JK's screenplay, the way this movie tells the story was unbelievably boring
So many new characters and i barely know or care about them after leaving the theater, remember how we went crazy about nagini ? i don't know why did JK put her in the story and what was she doing in this movie, if she's there only for the romance ? it failed so hard, and did you notice credence was the only person acknowledged her appearance ? the same thing with newt's brother.
Leta lestrange my god she vomited tons of expositions, she was so underdeveloped, she was just there to give people the plot, didn't have any interact with newt's brother except there was a kiss and when grindelwald killed her i was like " did she just died, am i supposed to feel sad for theseus or something" because i didn't feel anything, it was so lame, didn't feel shocked at all , and so many more problems........ .But these are just my personal thoughts, i was so sad while watching, as a potterhead, iam worried for those future fantastic beasts movies.
Agree
@@winterwolf211 Rowling already explained why Tom and Harry never became obscurials.
Ye i liked it as well
yeah I honestly think that while most of those critique points are true to some degree, we also need to take into consideration that this is mostly a filler movie? like it builds up, and in my case it worked because I can't wait for the thrid part, maybe it didn't work quite so well or at all for other people (which i'm really sorry about) but I'm sure that a lot of things that seem now confusing probably will be cleared up in the next part. This part was mostly there to expand the story, I feel like. And maybe it's not a good idea to do that with something where you get new content only every two years, but that's how it is.
My friend slept through the movie.
abhishek sk they just dragged it soo much...first part was too good comparing this...but you may have some other thought about it...
I almost fell asleep during all the exposition.
@@duartevader2101 just the end was good with some vfx... Or else booooooring
Same as my friend
I almost fell asleep during the Lestrage family exposition. Boring.
This entire movie is just a big set up movie, with an absurd amount of plot lines. Rowling needs to have a co-writer at least keep things in check.
She's getting a co-writer Steve kloves who the screenwriter of all harry potter movies & Dan Fogler the actor of Jacob loved the script & also said this series is leading to a massive war alongside WWII
Isaac Newton something need to change writing wise and I hope him coming in helps because this movie was a disappointment to a lot of people because it was entirely set up. Deathly Hallows part 1 didn’t feel like this and it’s purpose was to set up part 2. I hope what you are saying is correct as a world war mixed with the world Harry Potter could be amazing so long as they go dark with it.
@@MrLeary73 the story of fb2 wasn't that bad if you think about it it's just the screenwriting was so bad. If that'll be under Steve Kloves I think we have hit the rock bottom with FB2 & we can only go up from here.
@@buzzwithdrip6347 The first fb captured the magic of harry potter especially in the United States version of ministry. I think the story was just not good. I wasn't interested in the Jacob and queenie story and her leaving to join grindlwald wont last more than a movie unless she is thinking three steps ahead and going in as a spy or something. Goldstein was wasted in the movie and could have been better used. The lestrange portion of the story was meh and the prophecy seemed just lazy and a rehash of the harry potter prophecy. The next movie they are going to have to use Dumbledore in some way more than likely at the end of the movie vs grindlewald, Goldstein needs to be used more, the stakes need to be raised for Newt and Dumbledore for this film to bounce back the series.
@@MrLeary73 story was Ithink somewhat good they have a hard task to get it back together but they can although its gonna be hard
I was thoroughly entertained by the movie as a whole, though I can definitely understand what people say when it was confusing at times and maybe even convoluted. For me and with the help of my other half pointing it out, I think this movie established that Grindelwald is the most dangerous dark wizard of all time. What I mean is that while he just seems like a villain and not a whole lot more, he can bring people to his cause just by talking to them, telling them what they want to hear and holding out a hand of friendship. Unlike Voldemort who used fear and intimidation to gain follows, Grindelwald appeals to his followers with arguable logic and that makes any human being dangerous. Especially the number of people he was able to sway with just words kinda makes him a bit frightening.
I agree with your views on grindelwald. While reading the original Harry Potter books when they first came out Grindelwald never seemed like Vilain in the traditional sense to me like Voldemort. If he was, it also would’ve been harder to justify the relationship he had with Dumbledore. I believe it also reflects nicely on dumbledore’s statement that the world doesn’t solely consist of pure good and pure evil. I think its an element that reflects more in the cast as well, with Nagini showing good intentions and Newts brother marrying Leta Lestrange. I feel it’s a slight improvement over the “gryfindor good” and “slitherin bad” consensus the books had.
I haven't seen this and after quite a few reviews saying the same thing I don't think I will. I get the feeling that maybe this fantastic beasts series would have been better as a book rather than a movie especially with all the subplots and characters in it. There's only so much you can do in a 2-3 hour movie. And you know I actually liked how Harry Potter ended. I don't think we needed a huge backstory on dumbledore and grindelwald. We're given hints and told how this battle was epic between them and you know maybe they should've left that in our imaginations. Sometimes the magic is in keeping things quiet. Sometimes you don't need to know every last detail. I'll stick to my Harry Potter books and leave the rest of this series here.
I couldn't agree more. I wish it weren't the case, but I think it's Rowling lacking in screenwriting ability. The films feel like a novelist wrote the script and tried to get a books worth of detail and character into the story. There just isn't enough time in a 2 and a half hour film.
It honestly feels similar to the Star Wars prequels. Some great ideas, terrible writing, and everyone afraid to challenge George Lucas.
someone sounds like a Star Wars fanboy. Give it a chance with the perspective that this is a setup movie. Ya get to see some amazing sets, new creatures, and places we’ve never seen in the Wizarding World. Plus Newt is precious as usual.
You know the first Fantastic Beasts WAS based on a book?
@@shayvandy4981 I don't know if I'd say I'm a fanboy, but I love the Star Wars films. I don't obsess over them. But it's easy to see a comparison between Rowlings role in this series and Lucas' role in Star Wars. And I would accept this as a set up movie, but then what was the first one? Are there now two set up films in this five film series? The visuals and creatures we're great, but the story was lacking and overly convoluted.
@@SPM0717 a textbook?
Oh boy. Sadly, I agree 100%.
I grew up with Harry Potter movies and I love them to bits. Nostalgia goggles are a thing, sure, but you'll have to forget and forgive so much about this movie in order to actually like it, nostalgia isn't going to be enough. It's the first time I'm sad and disappointed about a Harry Potter movie and the taste it left in my mouth is just getting worse the more I think about it. If it wasn't for some charming moments in this it would have been hard to keep on watching. And the big reveal.. Let's just say JK did some 'Cursed Child' level of shit. And on top of all of this it felt like a filler movie. Let's hope they'll give as a decent third movie because I'm starting to lose faith in this franchise and it breaks my freaking heart.
It's Always a pleasure to hear Your take on Films Chris, whether they be good or bad.
I had a hard time caring about what was happening, I can’t imagine what the kids were thinking when the beasties weren’t onscreen.
Ive been saying this since order of the phoenix.
David yates can make a damn gorgeous looking movie. But thats about it.
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I believe Half Blood Prince was handled superbly, but yes, Yates has Joel Schumacher syndrome.
@@CynicalCharmer haha nice one
@@CynicalCharmer HBP was 2 hours of angsty teen romance with 5 minutes of something about Snape writing a potions book
@@DysnomiaFilms yeah hbp has the least action out of all of them.
(it was my favorite book tho!)
The reason I enjoyed Half Blood Prince was the slower pacing, but that's more my tastes. I'm one of the few people that has issue with Azkaban, so that works against my popularity. I think Deathly Hallows part one should have taken note, and made the first part majorly about the side-characters dealing with what's going on, before bouncing back the leads with the second half. The first instead was overlong, and the second was mindless.
I did however, after coming back from it last night, thoroughly enjoy Fantastic Beasts 2. I wasn't huge on the first instalment, but don't get the angst directed against Crimes Of Grindelwald. I didn't have issues following any of the plot, and didn't feel bored. There were some minor issues I had, but when it came to JK retconning the lore of the books and movies, I still didn't take issue. I believe for this particular kind of prequel to work, it needs to separate itself (something the first really struggled to do) from the universe, and if changing stuff is the way to go about it, I don't really mind. I'm not a purist though.
I don't understand this storyline in general.. Why wouldn't they just make a Voldemort origin story?
Niels Valgaeren This will be a Voldemort origin story. We’re getting there slowly.
@@zakc2340 thought it would but then I still don't like newt as a main character. Just my opinion though.
We have a Voldemort origin story... Half Blood Prince (IMO the worst movie adaptation)
She will probably fuck it up and add unnecessary plotlines that make no sense in the greater scheme of things.
There already is one....its a novel called "Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince"
Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald is better than the rest of the adaptations Yates did for the Harry Potter books. Sure, it has some inconsistencies but it's a pretty good solid story with the best onscreen villain from the Wizarding World. I don't get the hate. First The Last Jedi and now this? People need to be more open-minded when going to the movies.
M Paulson I call it The Last Jedi effect, when a movie that has been most recently released since The Last Jedi was released and the movie has been apart of an popular franchise that has been around for a while and when it is released, it is very decisive to the fans of the series
@@emilykruger2844 As a writer myself, I find it extremely curious. Over the course of a year I've seen many films I believe are decent, if not good, but audiences tend to hate intensely. For one, I loved The Last Jedi (and Fantastic Beasts:TCoG) and I am surprised people call certain aspects of the film "plotholes" or things like that.
@@mpaulson4285 Maybe people need someone to blame for they lack of understanding? Something like: "If I can't follow the story / don't understand this or that it's YOUR fault, not mine?". I've seen people bashing Crimes for its supposed plot holes. The only problem was: they weren't plot holes... Viewers just didn't watch carefully enough. I don't say there aren't any, but a lot of things were a product of people's lack of focus. I have some experiences in writing, too (but not in English - it's not my native language), so I'm always careful with my verdicts. It's easy to miss something during watching/reading and make fool of yourself. Additionally, everyone has their own set of experiences that influence how they view the art, so opinions will vary anyway :)
All I want is a scene where Grindelwald is talking to a Muggle in a bar. Like in Black Mass where Depp is having dinner and making sure the guy won't rat him out. Then the guy pulls a gun out and shoots Grendelwald and we get to see how he would handle that situation. But no that's okay, more ominous walking and whispering.
As a huge Harry Potter fan, I really enjoyed this movie, but it has problems, that Chris talked about. In the end, not the best movie in the franchise, but still very enjoyable and I accually liked that the movie was slow and that it took everything so EPIC!!!! B-
I enjoyed it too!! Thought I was the only one 😅
This movie was boring.
Well, it's 2018, of course our beloved franchises are gonna get shitty new entries. What an year...
Learn to write.
Nothing’s going to be perfect all the time
MCU's not on that list (for the majority, it got the best entries this year). Deadpool 2 was fantastic for X-Men too. Sadly, Venom prevented 2018 from being a near-perfect movie year for Marvel. There's also a chance for Aquaman to be the best DCEU movie (that is if DCEU is a beloved franchise at all).
@@andyparker5688 Ant Man and the Wasp was pure garbage IMO
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You're quite in the minority since it has an IMDB score of 7.4/10, RT critics score of 88%, RT audience score of 80% and Metacritic score of 70%. Quite damn good.
But if you hate it, then that's fine. Still, doesn't mean it sucks just because you don't like it.
It'S "rowling" not "rowling"
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I told myself if I watch it I'll wait for it to be on HBO, just watched Crimes of Grindelwald and yeah it pretty much sucks. There's just really no one to cheer for or really care about, the plot is vague and feels rushed, waaaaaay to much CGI. You can tell that J.K. Rowling and Warner Brothers gave it their all & put their heart & soul into the Harry Potter movies. I've watched them over & over again, I still enjoy them... especially Azkaban.
Fantastic Beasts feels rushed, no heart and while you see it that feeling of wonder & magic is just not there. Tip to Hollywood and other studios, despite what you think, not everything needs a prequel.
No shit but if a crappy movie can make +650 million at the box office I dont think they really care whether the franchise "needs" a prequel or not.
@@john-doe842 It's all about the money unfortunately.
@@macross25 yeah..
"The real crime of this movie is that it's just too boring"
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everyone is talking how this movie is overstuffed and jumpes from one plot to the other, but I don't recall anybody telling this about infinity war
i can't recall , infinity war was a really long film .
@Craig James Review you know what would've been a great idea? Merging this movie with it's follow up movie.
The thing is, by the point of Infinity War, you've had plenty of time to get to know and grow invested in the characters. This movie introduces and kills off a ton of side character all in the same movie without giving you much time to actually get to know them. This felt like 2 or 3 movies worth of content in one film.
Infinity war knew how to do the jumping. When they left one storyline for the other, people were invested into them and really wanted to know what happens next. So later when the movie jumps back to it, people aren't disappointed because nearly all of those storylines were exciting. It is similar to what George R.R Martin does in the game of thrones books. Execution is the key here
Because Infinity War was a great movie. This wasn't.
I loved the books, I hated the movies (such a bad editting and acting except for the veterans of course).
This movie I liked it, everybody says "too many characters, it's confusing..." but any Harry Potter's movie has more characters. They say the plot is confusing but never say what confuse them and so they go on.
I would have love to see the Harry Potter movies portrait like this, with that direction, good performances, costume direction, sound direction, etc.
I think the problem is that JK writes with the future and all these possibilities already in her mind which may work well for books, but doesn't exactly lend itself to movies. I actually really liked the film though.
This review has literally summed up every feeling I had. I couldn’t put it into words and your review did it. I am a huge Harry Potter fan and I am the same as your wife, I can quote random facts no problem. There were moments in the movie I had no idea what was going on. There were a lot of things I liked, but the screenplay was the biggest problem for me.
It's probably the iron man 2 of this prequel series
The mission impossible 2 or the ocean twelve of this series
More like the Last Jedi
Or X-Men Origins: Wolverine
Or Shrek 420: midlife crisis
Naw more like Iron Man 3 and Thor Dark World:P
Completley agree with everything you said . I also found the film boring and confusing at times and massively disappointing even though I did enjoy some moments and characters.
Fantastic review!
I agree I still liked the movie but it was the lower type Harry Potter type movie
I disagree with your review I actually liked this film I don't understand all of the hate for this movie at all, I liked how Johnny Depp made his escape from prison and I think he added a ton of new things to the character that I really liked, I'm not much of a Harry Potter fanatic but I do enjoy this movie and the first one that just my overall opinion
Personally, I didn’t care for the Redmayne character in the first one at all. And it looks like I can just pass on this one.
Newt was hugely irritating (not as much as the 'beasts' though). It's kind of forgivable, possibly endearing when the children in HP act a bit ridiculous, when a group of adults act the same way it just seems daft. It's a very clever and brilliant way to further milk the US and worldwide fanbase who have all grown up now.
I agree something about not only his character but the actor rubs me the wrong way... he’s not likable in my opinion.
@@superstarDJ537 I hate the way they protray the lead roles in the HP movies, i like Daniel Radcliffe as an actor, but he was unbearable in the last HP movies, maybe is a Yates thing, because i loved the character in the 3 and 4th movie (Alfonso Cuarón
and Mike Newell) Chris columbus did a great job too, but it was more child-like (which make sense for the first two movies)
But Yates does this thing of having the lead character being super awkard, unrelatable, i feel he tries to create funny situations, but it ends up being super cringy. Harry Potter felt super out of character in his movies to me, and apparently he did the same with Newt...
I enjoyed newt and think Eddie hit it out of the park. I think too many people need some amazing socially perfect main character that’s oh so cool and don’t like that in reality some people are socially awkward and that’s ok.
Joel McMath I’m glad you enjoyed his character, but I don’t think it was his shyness that people had a problem with. There are lots of shy, awkward characters that people really like. Neville Longbottom and Amelie Poulain, for example. I think it’s because Newt is just bland and dull. You don’t know much about him aside from the fact that he’s kind and gentle and he likes animals. He’s also just too good a person. He’s not flawed or complex enough, making him one-dimensional and rather boring. All the Harry Potter characters were interesting because they were morally grey and had flaws. It made them more realistic. Newt just seems too perfect, and is not developed enough to be interesting.
i honestly thought the first fantastic beast is ok.. but hearing the second one being this disappointing i guess ill just skip and just go watch overlord instead :)
ooo good choice, Overlord does NOT disappoint
Don't listen to the critics, watch it for yourself and make your own opinion, this movie is great in my opinion
This film is MUCH better than the first film. See for yourself.
Excellent Choice!
You should check out Widows.
He kills a loyal friend immediately, slaughters innocent people including infants. I think that's more than him walking around.
Of course, Grindlewauld's character doesn't have much depth. You have to use inferences from the HP-verse to understand his character. Only Albus and perhaps his aunt, Bathilda Bagshot, and the staff at Durmstrang, which he was expelled from, truly know Grindlewauld. Dumbledore would never fall in love with an obvious monster. OF COURSE, Grindlewauld's most deadliest weapon, other than his wand (the Elder Wand), is his ability to charm & manipulate people to his aims, including the Great Albus Dumbledore, who was willing to abandon his family for Gellert & essentially become his 1st follower, although technically they were equals. I liked the length of this movie. I hate how rushed movies are nowadays due to people bitching b/c of their short attention spans. Now, yes, this movie has serious questions/blunders about McGonagall, the Dumbledore family lineage, Dumbledore being a DADA teacher (though that really doesn't so much bother me), etc. This movie was many things, but dull is FAR from true.
How do you know Grindelwald's "evil-ness" was obvious from the start? If there's anything I love about this franchise, it's the moral ambiguity. "The world isn't separated into good people and Death Eaters". Grindelwald and Dumbledore could've easily been school friends who agreed on everything, except the former took it just a step too far. Nobody is 100% monster.
@@pivotguydc1149 again, read the Harry Potter books. Book 6 in particular and Book 7 explores the Dumbledore/Grindlewald relationship and Grindlewauld's youth issues. There was not moral ambiguity with Gellert in his youth. Even when he was young, he had a vision of acquiring great power, conquest and rule over inferior wizards & muggles, for the so-called greater good. He masked his scheme to Dumbledore, luring him with power, the hunt & search for the Deathly Hallows, and Dumbledore himself was young, frustrated/angry with muggles for what they'd done to his sister, Ariana. It was the blowout confrontation between Aberforth, Albus and Gellert that finally forced Dumbledore to see the truth in the man he loved, the man that'd be the closest equal of his generation that he'd ever come close to finding (though Dumbledore was more powerful than Gellert). Again, read the books & some Harry Potter Lexicon, too
Actually, we only knew Dumbledore tought transfiguration during Voldemort's time. From the talk with the ministry we learned they forbidden Dumbledore teaching Dark Arts as they saw him as a threath. Eego, Dumbledore tought transfiguration only in later years. But even before learning it, I can't see why it's so surprising. Snape was a potion master, but he tought Dark Arts as well in third book when the other teacher was sick. You can't expect the school stopping teaching the subject, because one teacher can't teach at the moment. They always give someone to do it in meantime... Dumbledore could easily substituting.
I though The Crimes of Grindelwald was emotional, and magical, and fantastic. Everyone always seems to hate the movies I really love
cause you seem to love movies every one hates bitch .
You're trolling, I'm sure. Though, regardless, it's pretty sad. A person enjoys a movie, so you feel the need to insult them? Your parents went awry somewhere along the line.
Same here, mate.
Tbh I disagree with reviewers about this movie. I like the diversity of characteristics in this movie. It has some faults of course and I admit to that and it wasn’t a good follow up to the first movie which I loved but it’s still an enjoyable movie.
Yeah. I enjoyed the slower pace honestly when it wasn't too focused on the Grindelwald plot so much. But I also agree that there were so many characters and subplots that most of the returning cast except for Newt had nothing significant to do. They were just there for the ride.
Less standalone than the previous film was, definitely.
Alexander Sison yeh I agree I also liked humour but sometimes it felt that the interactions are there just for the sake of it.
Gustav Mahler diversity of characters is not the same diversity you are thinking about. It means different personalities and sub plots for characters. It doesn’t mean cast diversity ....
Tx, Chris -I enjoy how you put your won personal likes / dislikes into context to help further your review and analysis...always a pleasure to watch your reviews! cheers Ottawa Guy
I love how every single reviewer has to qualify their level of HP fandom before these bad reviews.
I completely agree though. I genuinely thought that the problem was me and I just wasn't following the plot all that well and was getting distracted by the first viewing. But seeing these reviews I now realise that the movie is the problem. The plot is utter crap. The explanations make no sense. The editing is weird.
Usually I agree with you, but I didn't like the first Fantastic Beasts and I watched your review before watching the movie so my expectations were quite low. However, I liked it, it is true that it has too many open plots and it is a tad long but I enjoyed, it felt like an adventure. Although I agree with you that Jude Law as Dumbledore is just amazing, the best part of the movie!
Isaac Gene Asensio I stopped reading at “I didn’t like the first fantastic beasts” the door is that way, bye.
Same here, didn’t like the first one.
I have to disagree. I enjoyed it immensely, maybe even more than the first. This movie in my book was a complete and total triumph so much so that I am seeing it again this weekend for the 2nd time now that I know what to expect. I love the world of Harry Potter as well and I have read all the books, got my Patronus and House at Pottermore and can't wait for the next installment in the series. Loved Jude Law's protrayal of Dumbledore it was 10 times better than Michael Gambon's ( who as Dumbledore I despised) though Johnny Depp as Grindewald I could take it or leave it, I would have much preferred for Colin Farrel to have kept on with the role but alas it could not be done. There were some cut-away scenes that were awful not going to lie but overall I loved it and had a great time watching it.
Yeah, agree!
Isis2265 yup just saw it and really enjoyed it
This movie was objectively awful and you’re lying to yourself as a desperate fan
Alright, now in my opinion, this was just a bit of a mess. The whole plot is interesting, but the storytelling isn't executed well. It's good, but could've been pieced together way more clearer. The first Fantastic Beasts had good pacing and a well-emphasized conflict.
nice opinion hugh
It's wild that this is the first film to get lower than a B+
The problem with this movie is JK Rowling wrote it as if it were a book, and what you can put into a book isn't the same as what you can put into a movie. Time is limited and you can't spend so much of it in so many other subplots. Just look at the poster. It is literally like one of those city based anime with a gigantic cast to follow but they got at least 12 episodes to explore them.
I don't know if Warner Bros. learnt anything at all after the misfire of their DC properties, and unless Walter Hamada changes the company's policy and primes the studio's return to director-driven roots, WB's nasty habit of world-building continues to do more harm to subsequent Wizarding World movies as well as its reputation to the eyes of both fans and casual audiences. 😢
Update: JK Rowling's growing stature as a controversial figure doesn't exactly help either. 😑
Damn shame too, the Wizarding World has so much potential...
Eh, I enjoyed it but I can see where you, and others, are coming from. It's not one of my favorite movies of the franchise but it's not the worst either.
That being said, I think no one will disagree on how weak and inconsistent the overall plot is. I really do hope that this movie was meant to be a foundation of Grindelwald's campaign and that going forward we'll get to see an actual coherent storyline with more intriguing characters aside from Dumbledore and Grindelwald.
I'm not hugely disappointed but definitely not blown away either.
What's the worst in the franchise you think?
@@Jmoaks419 Personally I'd go with the first Fantastic Beasts or Chamber of Secrets. Granted, I still liked those movies as well. Being the worst in the Potter/Wizarding World isn't that big of a deal.
Overall as far as the movies go and if anyone cares: Deathly Hallows 2 > Prisoner of Azkaban > Order of the Phoenix > Goblet of Fire > Deathly Hallows 1 > Philosopher's Stone > Fantastic Beasts 2 > Half-Blood Prince > Fantastic Beasts 1 / Chamber of Secrets.
The thing is not a lot of people care or know about grindlewald or his character most people just know him as the old guy voldemort killed, hell most people didn't know he was a character. And for a movie call crimes of grindlewald he it doesn't sound like he commits any crimes.
@@SuperGamerxl Multiple counts of murder, jailbreak and public incitement sure sound like crimes to me.
It's also not true that most people don't know anything about him; anyone who has read the books definitely know him as more than "the old guy Voldemort killed" and that's quite a lot of people.
And even if you haven't read the books, the movie does a great job showing you who Grindelwald is, that's one of its greatest, or as some would argue only strengths.
@@averytroester7364 xD
Eddie Redmayne as Newt Scamander is best
"And David Yates did a great job directing it" I did a spit take when you said that. He's awful, and I don't know why they keep using him. He's from the Zach Snyder school of "make everything look dark and miserable and lifeless" directing.
I disagree he understands this world he's a great director only this time he kinda slipped
fuck you