wow, lt will bring huge need for the US to pay more attention to these countries human right situation and debates about if they are still democracy countries
This one actually is not that bad if you've watched the whole video. Sure, the China bashing is represented. But they also gave DJI rebuttal space and didn't cut out ex-DJI partner Colin Guinn's positive comments about DJI even though he could have slagged them off and/or FT could have cut out any positive remarks.
DJI drones are not cheap at all. They have best tech in civilian drones. Even Russia and Ukraine are both using DJI civilian drones for throwing bombs from the air, as they have no other ways to turn to.
Chinese government subsidize drone. Chinese government subsidize EV. Chinese government subsidize Huawei. How much money Chinese government.has? The solution is to buy, buy, buy Chinese products. That would bankrupt Chinese government.
The USA America calls it "Liberation" instead of "Invasion". That was what US call it in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia and the list goes on... Why the double standard? Confused... Please enlighten. Genuine question... Instances of the United States "liberated" or overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government) China 1949 to early 1960s Albania 1949-53 East Germany 1950s Iran 1953 * Guatemala 1954 * Costa Rica mid-1950s Syria 1956-7 Egypt 1957 Indonesia 1957-8 British Guiana 1953-64 * Iraq 1963 * North Vietnam 1945-73 Cambodia 1955-70 * Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 * Ecuador 1960-63 * Congo 1960 * France 1965 Brazil 1962-64 * Dominican Republic 1963 * Cuba 1959 to present Bolivia 1964 * Indonesia 1965 * Ghana 1966 * Chile 1964-73 * Greece 1967 * Costa Rica 1970-71 Bolivia 1971 * Australia 1973-75 * Angola 1975, 1980s Zaire 1975 Portugal 1974-76 * Jamaica 1976-80 * Seychelles 1979-81 Chad 1981-82 * Grenada 1983 * South Yemen 1982-84 Suriname 1982-84 Fiji 1987 * Libya 1980s Nicaragua 1981-90 * Panama 1989 * Bulgaria 1990 * Albania 1991 * Iraq 1991 Afghanistan 1980s * Somalia 1993 Yugoslavia 1999-2000 * Ecuador 2000 * Afghanistan 2001 * Venezuela 2002 * Iraq 2003 * Haiti 2004 * Somalia 2007 to present Honduras 2009 * Libya 2011 * Syria 2012 Ukraine 2014 * 2014 - 2022 - 6 countries yet to verify. Pakistan 2022 * Haiti 2022 *
Yeah because every time a government falls in a corrupt country its the USA's fault lol. Surprised you didn't add the Soviet Union and Russia to the list. Almost like you don't want to consider the possibility lol...
All is so true, they are a bunch of warmongering people and it has to stop, how many individuals have lost there lives from all those countries that have been interfered with, I would say millions, the USA has a lot of blood on there hands
14:08 thats Whampoa Military Academy, a former KMT military academy that ceased operations after 1949, now exists as a historical heritage site as a symbol of national independence. This is not much different from the British visiting the Imperial War Museum or Americans visit the Independence Hall. The fact that the FT didn't realize or look into it, and just jumping to conclusions surprised me
Minor corrections-- it was moved to Nanking in 1928 and the institution is still functioning in Taiwan. But as you said, the site is literally just a museum.
It's honestly kind of arrogant to think China's military production base cannot self supply their own drones. Look, China has an automated missile production factory, they got logic chip sourced from private companies, steel/nitrocellulose from SOE.
These journalists didn't even spend the time trying to understand the situation. For instance, the Army Official School shown on 14:12 is a cultural heritage facility for the legendary Huangpu Armny Official School, which provided many army officials to the army under the governance of the Nationalist Party (aka: Kuomintang) which has fled to Taiwan after the Chinese civil war. This school is no longer in use. Anyone who understands the difference between Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese characters can see this. Also, temporary (from half a day to a week) military training is commonly adopted by schools and organisations in China as this training is viewed beneficial to improve students and employees' strength, perseverance and team playing sprit. It is sad that the misunderstanding between two cultures have been manipulated by some ppl to promote their own political agendas.
Frankly this is a bit embarrassing. Got out competed, both in the tech and the price, then had to out right ban them. If it is a security risk then it wouldnt be a tariff it should be a ban. Yet banning them from being sold in the us doesnt mean it can't be used or people can just buy it from elsewhere. This is not solving the security issue
There is no security risk for flying DJI drones. 1. If you want your flight to be secret, you fly it offline. 2. Your flight data is stored in microSD.
Skydio has world leading obstacle avoidance, which they can still use to compete with DJI - yet they choose to back out of the consumer market while lobbying. As a DJI fan, I would have 100% bought a foldable Sykdio 3 with just 30 minutes of battery life and 5km range (Skydio 2 was $999 USD, around 20 minutes battery life, 2km range, not foldable) - not even asking for DJI's level of 45 minutes of battery life and 20km of range.
Even DJI haters have to admit that their drones are the best at that price, the only way to block them is to find excuses related to national security.
How does a tariff make sense? The American companies that invest in China would just sell to other markets instead of the US. Making stuff in the US is simply not economical no matter which market you sell to.
Reality check- the US market however lucrative is not the only market, unfortunately. Whatever the US concerns, however we'll documented or validated they will content with the reality that China cannot be contained, end of discussion .
We sell them one Boeing they have to sell millions of drones. Bring the drones on. Let's beggar the b*****. Now Boeing stop making planes that can't stay in the air
Also, from the Chinese comment below 14:08 is a historically important but already defunct military school (we call it museum), it has free entrance but require reservation. And those "military combat clothes" you can get them from Temu or something. Mind you PLA military-specified production facilities are not allow to sell their stuff to civilian economy, wonder why? Because they are too competitive.
I have a DJI Ronin 4D because it is so convenient to use. I do wish other companies made such a camera because their codecs are better than DJI such as Australian company Blackmagic, but they haven't (yet)!
It's quite funny! The proof of DJI's Chinese military connection is a photo taken in front of a museum? Yes, the old army school was famous 100 years ago, and has been a museum for many decades.
The Chinese model of subsidy generally provides financial support at the developmental phase of an industry, and once the business take off the support will diminish. This is the same philosophy of how they fight poverty in recent years. In the West, the government instead often subsidize big inefficient businesses that are too big to fail.
What Haye Kesteloo referred to as an "Army Officer School " was actually a Museum ( 14:10 ) . This was an "Army Officer School " at the time of Japanese Invasion into China ! You can find many Museums in China recording the Japanese Invasion / Opium Wars etc ......
It is ridiculous that a large number of Chinese companies do military-style team building and are considered to be related to the military. You know, all middle school and college students in China have to do similar military-style team building activities. Do Americans know nothing about this?
I advice total ban, all farmers, fire fighters, law enforcements, disaster relief organizations will thankyou for improving their work environment's national security
Dji is a Chinese firm,it normally that they should doing business under the Chinese rules,and make the security of nation. The practice is similar for America government to regulate their companies
It's easy to ban DJI, well I think the US means every Chinese drones, but the key is where the consumers can find a comparable drone to get. Well, I guess then Skydio will probably come up with a $3000 basic consumer drone.
You can ban DJI as you want but people will still find ways to buy DJI drones. It's simply because DJI drones are the best drones you can buy. Skydio? It's garbage comparing to DJI.
USA: When we lose, we ban capitalism, this is US exceptionalism
Ok, so should every country also ban US manufactured drones? It's not protectionism, it's because of security, of course.
wow, lt will bring huge need for the US to pay more attention to these countries human right situation and debates about if they are
still democracy countries
Said the same thing about Huawei when the west couldn't keep up with their 5g tech
How many Consumer grade US made drones do you know of?? Please do name me some..
actually its because of INsecurity
US manufactured drones don't exist, They were bankrupted due to DJI
This piece is bought to you by skydio. When we can't compete we defame you.😂
😂😂😂
They think we're stupid 😂
If you can't beat them, ban them. Might as well just come out and say this video was sponsored by Skydio.
If Skydio spent as much money on actually building drones as they spend on buying FT articles maybe they wouldn't be crippled by Chinese sanctions.
This one actually is not that bad if you've watched the whole video. Sure, the China bashing is represented. But they also gave DJI rebuttal space and didn't cut out ex-DJI partner Colin Guinn's positive comments about DJI even though he could have slagged them off and/or FT could have cut out any positive remarks.
@@L-K-K its an adv of skydio obviously
Did she say Chinese forcing the US to use their technologies?
Yes, she think US is victim
Do you really believe the western media
Yes, and trump said China is raping America.
CCP controlled DJI!!! She said
😂😂😂
So many American companies also have links to their military, so do other countries stop using those products?
Boeing for example they are big 3 of usa militry industrial complex and also have duopoly in civilian aircraft market around the world
The United States can build drones that are more in line with "national security" at 10 times the price
and still need import critical part from China 😂
But they will be a national security threat to every country who uses these MIA drones.
Selling things too cheap is now corporate crime?
The problem is that even if American companies sell cheap drones, no one buys them.（ DJI drones are expensive. If you don't know, I can correct you）
DJI drones are not cheap at all. They have best tech in civilian drones. Even Russia and Ukraine are both using DJI civilian drones for throwing bombs from the air, as they have no other ways to turn to.
@@jason980e Question is for the same quality product which would be more expensive. Why are people not buying American cheap drones?
If USA can build a drone that's as good and as cheep as DJI, by all means. Don't let those warmonger back-end-dealing policiticans control us.
🤣They stop Huawei , is to let Apple sell us the same phone for 5 years.
Chinese government subsidize drone.
Chinese government subsidize EV.
Chinese government subsidize Huawei.
How much money Chinese government.has?
The solution is to buy, buy, buy Chinese products. That would bankrupt Chinese government.
Not always about subsidies. Huawei had 5G tech ready to go. What we get here is a 4G+ knock off
@@trickslies844He is being sarcastic 😂
You should be special counsil of US commerce department. You get it.
Aipac should definitely fund you
Assuming it's true. If government subsidies can make products cheaper for consumers, is that a crime?
Sooner or later Chinese made underware will become a national threat to this American！🤣🤣🤣
they becane hysteric with chinese garlic remember 😂
No problem, that Americans will revert to wearing his birthday suit. Security issues resolved.
The USA America calls it "Liberation" instead of "Invasion". That was what US call it in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia and the list goes on... Why the double standard? Confused... Please enlighten. Genuine question...
Instances of the United States "liberated" or overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government)
China 1949 to early 1960s
Albania 1949-53
East Germany 1950s
Iran 1953 *
Guatemala 1954 *
Costa Rica mid-1950s
Syria 1956-7
Egypt 1957
Indonesia 1957-8
British Guiana 1953-64 *
Iraq 1963 *
North Vietnam 1945-73
Cambodia 1955-70 *
Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
Ecuador 1960-63 *
Congo 1960 *
France 1965
Brazil 1962-64 *
Dominican Republic 1963 *
Cuba 1959 to present
Bolivia 1964 *
Indonesia 1965 *
Ghana 1966 *
Chile 1964-73 *
Greece 1967 *
Costa Rica 1970-71
Bolivia 1971 *
Australia 1973-75 *
Angola 1975, 1980s
Zaire 1975
Portugal 1974-76 *
Jamaica 1976-80 *
Seychelles 1979-81
Chad 1981-82 *
Grenada 1983 *
South Yemen 1982-84
Suriname 1982-84
Fiji 1987 *
Libya 1980s
Nicaragua 1981-90 *
Panama 1989 *
Bulgaria 1990 *
Albania 1991 *
Iraq 1991
Afghanistan 1980s *
Somalia 1993
Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
Ecuador 2000 *
Afghanistan 2001 *
Venezuela 2002 *
Iraq 2003 *
Haiti 2004 *
Somalia 2007 to present
Honduras 2009 *
Libya 2011 *
Syria 2012
Ukraine 2014 *
2014 - 2022 - 6 countries yet to verify.
Pakistan 2022 *
Haiti 2022 *
Yeah because every time a government falls in a corrupt country its the USA's fault lol. Surprised you didn't add the Soviet Union and Russia to the list. Almost like you don't want to consider the possibility lol...
All is so true, they are a bunch of warmongering people and it has to stop, how many individuals have lost there lives from all those countries that have been interfered with, I would say millions, the USA has a lot of blood on there hands
sponsored by the sore losers from skydio.
Please Ban.. it . I would love to see how much $$ the govt bureaus and private farmers spend to replace their farming drones..
2030: used DJI drones selling on eBay for $100k
@@wedmunds DJI is currently selling cheapest drone at $150
it was never about national security, it was all about insecurity
-u,s amurica.
To be more accurate --> $
Should China ban Nike, Boeing, GM, KFC... for the sake of national interest?
Fun fact: China KFC is very localized and performs 100000 times better than it does in the USA.
@@flyingaugust9142 Same as McDonald's 😂😂
Military industrial complex is alive and well
US propaganda is really taking off
14:08 thats Whampoa Military Academy, a former KMT military academy that ceased operations after 1949, now exists as a historical heritage site as a symbol of national independence. This is not much different from the British visiting the Imperial War Museum or Americans visit the Independence Hall. The fact that the FT didn't realize or look into it, and just jumping to conclusions surprised me
They don't care about facts, they just want to mislead the audience with pictures
They had a conclusion first, then looked for support. Classic confirmation bias
欲加之罪何患无辞
It’s like a group of American doing cosplay at the Alamo and you use that as evidence that they are tied to US military 😂
Minor corrections-- it was moved to Nanking in 1928 and the institution is still functioning in Taiwan. But as you said, the site is literally just a museum.
Communist China is capitalism on steroids. China made the USA begin to look like the Soviet Union. 🤣🤣🤣
They're scared 😂
Did Skydio lobby Congress? If Skydio paid this lady Stefaniack, then she needs to tell the truth that she was paid by Skydio
lobbying is LEGAL in USA.
What u gonna do?
boeing is also part of US militarily complex too....
And have duopoly in passenger airliners
thanks for the new info sherlock.
@@mastershredder2002 mention not bro . its easily obtainable info lots of people dont know .
感谢FT提供午间笑料。
14:08 这是黄埔军校的大门，是个中国人都认识。
民国时期最著名军校，培养了很多抗日将领，校长是蒋介石。49年蒋介石带领国军转进台湾时，黄埔军校就解散了。50年台湾建立凤山军校算是继承黄埔军校。现在大陆就剩个壳子做博物馆。竟然有人说这是军校，不是蠢就是坏。😂😂😂
这说明中国已经发明时光机和平行宇宙了。穿越到一九二几年的平行宇宙，和控制黄埔军校的共产党军官们合作。笑死我了。
It's honestly kind of arrogant to think China's military production base cannot self supply their own drones. Look, China has an automated missile production factory, they got logic chip sourced from private companies, steel/nitrocellulose from SOE.
These journalists didn't even spend the time trying to understand the situation. For instance, the Army Official School shown on 14:12 is a cultural heritage facility for the legendary Huangpu Armny Official School, which provided many army officials to the army under the governance of the Nationalist Party (aka: Kuomintang) which has fled to Taiwan after the Chinese civil war. This school is no longer in use. Anyone who understands the difference between Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese characters can see this. Also, temporary (from half a day to a week) military training is commonly adopted by schools and organisations in China as this training is viewed beneficial to improve students and employees' strength, perseverance and team playing sprit. It is sad that the misunderstanding between two cultures have been manipulated by some ppl to promote their own political agendas.
What a poor skydio! failed to copy dji, ban dji is the last hope.
Should the world ban circulation USD? The answer is Yes.😄 There is a over supply of USD.
And also a national security risk.
The f? Which US company doesn't have strong links to the State?
Frankly this is a bit embarrassing. Got out competed, both in the tech and the price, then had to out right ban them.
If it is a security risk then it wouldnt be a tariff it should be a ban. Yet banning them from being sold in the us doesnt mean it can't be used or people can just buy it from elsewhere. This is not solving the security issue
The idea behind the ban is to try help kick-start a domestic drone industry. I am not convinced it will be particularly effective but oh well.
There is no security risk for flying DJI drones.
1. If you want your flight to be secret, you fly it offline.
2. Your flight data is stored in microSD.
It is your money, buy whatever you want, at your own risk.
They bought this channel and journalist instrad💀
The US has this Loser mentality blame the winner.😂😂😂😂
What a disgusting video
No USA drones company can compete to China made drones…which is much much better modern & more hightech.
When USA can't outcompete, it resorts to tarrifs bans and elimination, what a gentleman 😂
You ban something you could not manufacture yourselves. why?
The point is only American company allow the biggest, monopoly and only
0.40: "....man, please don't let this stuff get into the wrong hands." Exactly, don't let Pentagon get those.
"Losers focus on winners . Winners focus on winning."
🤣They stop Huawei , is to let Apple sell us the same phone for 5 years.
Skydio has world leading obstacle avoidance, which they can still use to compete with DJI - yet they choose to back out of the consumer market while lobbying. As a DJI fan, I would have 100% bought a foldable Sykdio 3 with just 30 minutes of battery life and 5km range (Skydio 2 was $999 USD, around 20 minutes battery life, 2km range, not foldable) - not even asking for DJI's level of 45 minutes of battery life and 20km of range.
Probably more $ serving the US establishment including the US MIC
No. Just because Usa companies can’t compete they want to ban. Totally wrong let DJI stay first responders need them.
US : when everything else failed bring out National Security and ban them 😂
Could the US afford not buying Chinese drones? Corrected the title.
Imagine the indignation from America if a country banned Microsoft or Facebook for working with the US military
What? That’s American companies for American military…are you dumb?
China already banned Facebook, Google, twitter
Didn't they?
Facebook is banned in Cnina )
@@tsyka1 iphone, Tesla, Microsoft are not banned.
@@tsyka1facebook drive many color revolution include Hong Kong2019
Even DJI haters have to admit that their drones are the best at that price, the only way to block them is to find excuses related to national security.
How does a tariff make sense? The American companies that invest in China would just sell to other markets instead of the US. Making stuff in the US is simply not economical no matter which market you sell to.
Reality check- the US market however lucrative is not the only market, unfortunately. Whatever the US concerns, however we'll documented or validated they will content with the reality that China cannot be contained, end of discussion .
Next episode: How CCP uses Christmas trees made with forced labor to spy on Americans’ daily lives
🤣
Those trainings are called 军训 and it's just boy scout retreats all students and organizations do
Thanks FT for being "impartial" and conveniently left out the real reason DJI locked Guinn out. What a joke.
Skydio spent millions of dollars in lobbying.
After watching this. The conclusion is there is no security risk but you can ban it in for other reason.
Every Chinese college student has military training when they enter school. This is very common in China.
So does Isreal so what's the difference between them both
The difference is that China does not actively create wars, we do it for defense
Hey, I did national service in Germany too.
I did it in Korea, What's your point?
14:09 this place is something more like a museum， its not modern army school，it‘s a school for army in 1900 century
What does excessive politicization and over-politicization mean for the United States?
We sell them one Boeing they have to sell millions of drones. Bring the drones on. Let's beggar the b*****. Now Boeing stop making planes that can't stay in the air
🤣They stop Huawei , is to let Apple sell us the same phone for 5 years.
It appears that anything made in China will have a data link to CCP. I am really worried about my Sonicare toothbrushes now. 🤣🤣🤣
Also, from the Chinese comment below 14:08 is a historically important but already defunct military school (we call it museum), it has free entrance but require reservation. And those "military combat clothes" you can get them from Temu or something. Mind you PLA military-specified production facilities are not allow to sell their stuff to civilian economy, wonder why? Because they are too competitive.
吓唬老外对，没事
US and North Korea, samey same but same. Ban something from opponent.
Basically the Chinese govt is better for international business than the US govt.
Instead of bitching they should improve their govt policies
1:41 did she really say China is forcing Us to use Chinese technology? 🤣🤣oh’ my god..was she born on April the 1st?
should the USA ban FT?
Skydia spent 1 million to lobby feds btw
I have a DJI Ronin 4D because it is so convenient to use. I do wish other companies made such a camera because their codecs are better than DJI such as Australian company Blackmagic, but they haven't (yet)!
The question is: Is the usa able to make and build its own drones factories😂?
nope
What a dumb question
Yes but Ten time price
No, put 1000% tariff, let those buy pay, and distribute among billionaires Americans. That’s how capitalism works.😊
It's quite funny! The proof of DJI's Chinese military connection is a photo taken in front of a museum? Yes, the old army school was famous 100 years ago, and has been a museum for many decades.
Ban everything!
The Chinese model of subsidy generally provides financial support at the developmental phase of an industry, and once the business take off the support will diminish. This is the same philosophy of how they fight poverty in recent years. In the West, the government instead often subsidize big inefficient businesses that are too big to fail.
This is the classic we can't compete so we'll pull the security card! America - you are just too predictable now.
14:12 天啊 那张是去黄埔军校团建吧 美国人已经到了这种地步了吗 东升西落并非玩笑啊
Financialtimes 是日本人所有的英国媒体
Also this video propaganda is brought to you by Skydio...American capitalism at its best!
USA - Can't compete.. Ban them😂😂😂
Getting a slice of those 60billion...
The hypocrisy of the the "free market Capitalists".
When has the US govt listened to its citizens or most govts? Ask us if govts should stop encouraging war, but you won't ask this question.
I think the world should also stop buying Apple phones. Nothing against US. Purely for personal security reasons.
US propsganda😮
The hypocrisy
what if everyone buys DJI, fearing that it might be banned?
What Haye Kesteloo referred to as an "Army Officer School " was actually a Museum ( 14:10 ) . This was an "Army Officer
School " at the time of Japanese Invasion into China ! You can find many Museums in China recording the Japanese
Invasion / Opium Wars etc ......
Yes of course the US should ban Chinese drones.
China has the best drones. No way I am buying over priced and lower tech stuffs from America.
USA ia too too obsessed with countries which are developing without us interest. Sick Mentality.
For losers, EVERYTHING (even Garlic) is National Security issue. 🤣
that is a heritage site of millitary acadmy from 100 years ago. which was not used anymore! what is FT talking about?!
It is ridiculous that a large number of Chinese companies do military-style team building and are considered to be related to the military. You know, all middle school and college students in China have to do similar military-style team building activities. Do Americans know nothing about this?
America behaves like North Korea ~
If it wants to have very few very expensive drones, it can do that.
I advice total ban, all farmers, fire fighters, law enforcements, disaster relief organizations will thankyou for improving their work environment's national security
didn't know jeff winger was in the drone space
Is this serious? or just a joke?
It is like a meticulous coach teaching techical know how to take advangtage of all possibilities. It has left mental note for sure.
They will, after reverse engineering it!
gross video
Politicians are just jokes.
Dji is a Chinese firm,it normally that they should doing business under the Chinese rules,and make the security of nation. The practice is similar for America government to regulate their companies
It's easy to ban DJI, well I think the US means every Chinese drones, but the key is where the consumers can find a comparable drone to get. Well, I guess then Skydio will probably come up with a $3000 basic consumer drone.
Ah, so you're saying there's market failure?
You can ban DJI as you want but people will still find ways to buy DJI drones. It's simply because DJI drones are the best drones you can buy. Skydio? It's garbage comparing to DJI.
🤣They stop Huawei , is to let Apple sell us the same phone for 5 years.