Our little fodder system
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- Опубліковано 8 бер 2017
- ** 03/01/2018 ** Hey everyone. Thanks for stopping over. Since the release of this video, it has grown in popularity and many questions have been asked. Before asking, read through the comments below. Good chance you'll find what you need. Also, this was a second video to an earlier on I made. That may also assist you in what your looking for. At the end though, trial by error was my teacher and it may be yours too. Don't be discourage. Thanks! ***
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• Fodder for our rabbits...
Our little fodder system. After a couple years of trial and error this system seems to work best for us. We use no apple cider vinegar, hydrogen peroxide or anything else during the watering/ growing process. No special lights and the heat source is the home HVAC system. Keep your temps around 65-70 degrees. Barley can get yeasties and wheat can get mold. Proper temps, good watering and good drainage helps prevent those. With either, if you don't get good growth within the first 2-3 days in a tray keep an eye out for the mold or yeasties.
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This system is awesome . I helped bale hay on my dad's farm when I was a child . Imagine a small room growing the same food as huge fields . No back breaking work in the summer heat 🤣
This is by far the most economical system I have ever seen to grow microgreen, thank you so very much!
Yes this is an easy cheap system... best I've seen yet
This is exactly what I was looking for. Well done and Thank you from SC!!
Wow it amazes me how many people want to pull down someone willing to stick their neck out to teach. Thank you so much for both the film and time responding to the comments.
I actually read through them. Plan to try this with my chickens and report back how it works.
Have a great day
How did it work out?
How did this work for your chickens? What grains did you use and about how much did you grow for how many hens?
Hope to hear from you!
Best home fodder setup I've seen on UA-cam.
Thanks!
@@CKKnifeandTool hi, do you need to add any chemicals while being soaked? because I have seen some videos like that.
Great system. Great video. Thanks for not milking this to a 20 min video. You gave us what need and you shut up (in a nice way.)
Glad it was helpful!
Lol
I like the way you used your shower area as a green house...if you have extra space indoors for growing that is the best in my opinion.
WOW! I have been wanting to start growing some meat chickens and trying to figure out where I can grow some fodder for my chickens. I have two showers, one I never use! What a great idea!
Sky Watcher
Perfect method... you nailed it!
Love love it. Just one question. Why not go direct to black trays after sprouting?
That is a very good system you have going there. Thanks for sharing this information step-by-step. Do you have a video on you distributing this fodder to the chickens? Love to see them as they're eating it. Thanks 👍😊
You are a life saver. I have tried to achieve good results with fodder and have failed miserably in summer there is no grass. Chooks, rabbits, cows we all need this. Well done!!!
Wayne Flint.... Glad to hear.
Great video............I read through all the comments. The snarky comments are difficult to ignore.............but doable. So, the pvc on the shelves is just to give the trays the angle you need, yes? Too bad people feel they must challenge your system............silly and rude. Thank you for sharing what you do. By the way, I have been sprouting various seeds and grains for 20 plus years and your variant take was refreshing. What works for you is a wonderful thing. More please.
Could be so the roots of the seedlings don't get attached to the shelf. Just a guess.
Pipes help angel the trays to drain. And yes... it is the internet so folks tend to be a bit.... well.
some people just have a mean nature, they need an adjustment
I wish all thumbs would break on those people who gave a thumbs down....shame on you ppl :-)))
At the end of the day you gotta realise that a lot of folks on the internet are there because in the real world no one will tolerate their nonesense
Thanks for the great tutorial
Jasmine Cherie hi jasmine i love you from INDONESIA
Great watch another episode on agritechguru chenal on UA-cam
Thanks for the heads up...
Interesting setup. Thanks for sharing.
Gorgeous fodder! Well thought out system, thanks so much for sharing! God Bless
thanks for sharing this vid,im sure it will helps me a lot for this knowledges to produce a healty food for my goats...
thanks for the video. much appreciated
Thanks for this, it's absolutely amazing, all you use is natural ventilation and light, no fuss, just a simple system
Glad you like it!
Thanks a million mate. I needed this. God bless you
Спасибо CK Knife and Tool
Буду пробовать ва метод
Мне нравится ваш опыт проращивания
if you want to greatly increase your output with this, fertilise your water at the top , it will greatly increase the food value of your fodder, after trying many fertilizers, the best turned out to be composted chicken droppings, then make a solution by trickling water thru them, and add it sparingly to your water, we also use this in our greenhouse, with super results
Make a video on that
Rabbit droppings work even better, I hear!
Try Ormus, we make a great agricultural product as well as a food grade product for pets and people. The plant product can be consumed without harm, and the increase in growth rates will be very hard to miss. Look what Ken Rohla is showing using Vancouver Island Ormus Kola Brand. Natural, biocompatible, consumable.
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www.vancouverislandormus.net/learn-more
@@kevinhay7421 any benefits from wheatgrass juice
@@MattrixNY rabbit poo has less nitrogen than chicken poop. If you want quicker green tops, like this fodder, use chicken poo.
Thank you, that was so easy to follow. You did very well.
Thank you! I enjoyed the video very much, gonna start my fodder system now! Feeling confident!
Best of luck!
good ideas for folks with small flock of critters.
Ive started doing this with oats and they sprout great! Under 10$ for a 50 pound bag. It turns into weeks worth of fodder.
Do you grow yours indoors or outdoors? I've tried with oats before out side and they did not do well. I reckon the bugs effected it or the heat. I live in southeast Louisiana.
Love this is had so many issues with my fodder system. I think this video addressed them all
self watering system great. expecting more videos from you. BTW, thanx for sharing
I know this is an old video, but it's awesome.. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks!
This is just Gr'888. God Bless you.
Very informative sir,appreciate your time.
Very nice job and inspiring me to get growing fodder. Thanks.
Thanks for this great idea! My 4 chickens could clear a 5x10 foot area of my lawn straight down to the dirt in one day, but this should satisfy their need for green! As to the waste water issue, one youtube farmer demonstrated his prep method for fodder in which he washed his seeds thoroughly, then soaked in a rather strong bleach solution (1 cup bleach to 3 gallons water), washed the seeds again, a couple of times, I think, then soaked for 24 hours. I think this process will likely produce cleaner return water from the flood and drain, and therefore, reusable water. I am going to try this with a pump and timer on a small scale and see what happens. Thanks again for this great idea.
5 x 10?... that's a hell of a lot of fodder you need!
Здрасьте! А зачем это?
Perhaps you need to rewatch this. It's not a strong bleach solution. That would kill the sprouts. You just want to make a solution of bleach in a spray bottle to disinfect the Folgers coffee container.
Better off using peroxide to disinfect your seeds
The bleach is used as a disinfectant to kill mold. Different places at different times of the year have different conditions that would promote mold growth. Use more bleach accordingly If needed.
Thanks a lot I have learnt something good
Great video with very simple explaintion
Thanks for this video, it's a simple and clear approach.
Hey it was awesome idea. I am planning to grow goats, i was worrying for the land. After seeing your video i got lot of confidence. your method is easy and simple no need to spend any money. You made my day. Thanks lot. Put some more videos as like this.
How do you grow goats?
@@vickyhull845 :))
@@vickyhull845 You don't. LOL You raise them....:)
Great, clear, detailed video. Nice information and helpful to those getting started.
However, I might mention - don’t get too far ahead in storing grain - all grain and seed will get buggy. Unless lots of pesticides are used in the field, it’s just the way it is. If used in a couple of months it’s not an issue but just like at home when you have beans, grains stored - you will find yourself with moths flying everywhere if it’s been stored for 6 months. If you have never had this happen (and you are over 50) you have heavy pesticide sprayed grain, seeds, beans to keep them from infesting the fields.
Please remember, sanitation and safe hygiene is crucial if you are doing this for your personal use, ie making sprouts for your salads, sandwiches but also for your stock etc. see before.
If your roots are getting light tan to brown you have Phytophthora or phythium. The roots should be very white unless they are affected by some type of fungi or bacteria. It affects roots, stems, etc. and everything grown whether hydroponically, in native soil, or in artificial potting mixes (bark, peat, coir, perlite, mixes). It is a water molds issue, sanitation, and making sure your water source is clean. And once in the water or ground (like folks who use their ponds, river, creeks, etc or water from gutters, cisterns, etc. as a water source) - it can be devastating and takes years to get rid of. Greenhouses and hydroponics etc - it can wipe out hundreds of thousands of dollars of crops. If you see this starting, test (contact your local county extension service run by state university) and then make sure you get rid of it and find out how to keep it at bay. You may need to use UV, Ozone or otherwise treat water supplies - there are some chemicals not as bad as others if trying to stay organic. Greenhouses have to do this to recycle water sources or they would waste huge volumes. They also use RO systems. Just remember UV doesn’t work well on cloudy water.
I assume wanting an organic source of feed is the reason you are doing this because quite frankly, you can buy commercially grown feed cheaper and easier than gathering and making your own mixes or sprouts. Though I think sprouts, used judiciously, especially, in the winter is a great idea for all your animals if done right. Just be sure not to overdo - don’t want to have to stock up on pepto ir have to call the vet or dispose of animals due to your good intentions.
If you have a medium to large operation, check with someone like Dramm to get them to help come up with a water system that treats and recycles the water, to get safe rainwater, etc. They can help with even small and have lots of information on their site… mostly directed to GH and growing operations but water quality is their specialty. If you have never had a problem, you might say what a bunch of bacon- but it only takes one time to change your mind but then it’s too late.
But one easy way to prevent this is to keep hose nozzles, tools etc off the ground and hard surfaces - when you read about those two in particular you will see preventative measures. Keep trays, pots, etc off the ground or flooring. Keep these hard surfaces disinfected - you may not like this but look at Physan20, products like Sanidate etc. These have similar ingredients hospitals, nursing homes, restaurants, food processing plants, etc use to try and keep safe without bleach which is harmful to skin, eyes, lungs, fabrics etc and must be constantly remade. Just clothing damage is enormous pain in the butt as far as I’m concerned. But bleach solutions must be mixed accurately at the right levels or you might as well use plain water. It’s can be inactive in 24 hours down to as low as 2 hours depending on other factors like how dirty the item was to begin with. Dirt deactivates the killing power of your sanitation and disinfection strength if not washed clean first. The surface must be washed first to remove gross dirt (visible dirt) then disinfected, and then sanitized. The Clorox company explains this on their site. But the surfaces must stay wet with the solution at least 10 minutes to work. Disinfection will have a rinse step, but sanitized (final step) is used to air dry on the surface. The drying once the item is completely clean helps in the killing of whatever might still be active.
I realize Some of this applies to wheat grass, sprouts people use s for your chickens, etc but … again when you read you can see how it can infect raised beds, native soil, equipment etc and it’s years to get rid of sitting barren unless heavy chemicals are used. And that’s not a guarantee. In some countries, they use heavy duty steam equipment to sanitize beds and soil, but the US is slow to adopt anything not “chemical based”. Wonder why?
Please read the information on these diseases mentioned (bacteria, fungi, etc) because this isn’t the only issues - there is botulism, e-coli, salmonella, etc you could be passing to your livestock causing fertility, spontaneous abortion, and other sickness issues.
I realize this is a bit rambling but you can do the research. Best wishes.
Thank you
You can purge the storage with CO2. Get dry ice put it in a jar with aquarium tube sticking out of the top. I use copper tube on the end and shove it down to the bottom. After a while with the lid gently resting on it. Stick a match in there. If it goes out it's purged. Don't open it again till you need to use it. Store in temp stable area so you don't have temperature shifts. That will get the container breathing again. Then you lose the CO2.
Great advice! Thanks for taking the time to share.
Thanks for sharing your experience
If I had a sink and heated barn, I'd be doing this for sure!!! I'm saving this!!
Thank you so much for this great video. very helpful!
Great informative tutorial! Thank you very much for posting it. Can you maybe post a video of your animals eating the beautiful fodder you made for them? That would be a great video I think. ☺️
I was wishing the same...
Elegant system! Thanks for sharing it.
This was some great information! There's a lot of detail which helps tremendously when you don't know what the heck you're doing! LoL. Thanks!
This is the most informative video I've found on fodder. I started my system but am having a lot of trouble with bacteria/mold and seeds not sprouting. Thank you for all the tips.
Hello, did you overcome the problems and producing? Please share your experience and learning.
Using the bleach will help with bacteria. Seeds are not sprouting because they need more water or more drainage
@@Doksamauru Thank you!!! looking to get my system started again with fresh chicks!
My wife would be happy if I'd occupy our shower with trays of plants
Is there any apart barnley seeds, because here in Mautitius we don't get barnley seeds,please reply.
@@blackstorm1768 you can use maize, wheat lentils etc. Beans
Happy to water the fodder you mean, multitasking ;-)
😂
Thanks. It was a nice presentation.
Vahid Melati (Iran)- I enjoyed watching this video. I hope you always good luck!
Thank you! You too!
i do similar using straight barley.............great conversion numbers for the barley............feed to chidkens
john Killen ididnt know that chicken also eats this
Thank you for sharing your method and insights. It is very helpful!
Do you know the variety of the field pea you use? I am using a winter pea seed but am not getting nearly the amount of growth. Our barley and sunflower sprouts are 4-5” tall in 7 days but the pea sprouts are half that. Thank you!!
Truett Roberts ... The field pea I use is round. About a 1/4” diameter.
Shalom! I really enjoyed watching your tutorial on Foder. Thank you so very much. Blessings to you and yours!
Michelle from Norco Southern California
Thanks alot, I'm from Africa but I like farming alot with this method I will save a lot, May God bless you so much with this teaching
Great tutorial. Thanks. I will surely try to produce for feeding my lambs.
1) From setting to harvesting, how many days cycle? At 5:24 this result is on what day?
2) Are the barley and corn of any particular type for this fodder production?
2) Do you pre-wash the barley and corn with detergent? Which one?
3) Daily how many times do you run water on setter tray? For how long each time?
Kindly guide further.
No further guidance as a reply. :-/
That is an amazing system! How many chickens do you have? How long does one tray last for you? The rotating system is brilliant! I would like to try this
Great video! Thank you so much for sharing and giving me another project. Semper Fi!
Awesome video! Exactly what I was looking for 👍
Glad I could help!
You are the best👍🏻
Well I just dont understand one thing. This fodder is great but seeds use their stored starch to sprout and grow so does the increase in digestibility compensate for the loss of energy.
Cheers for the video mate. I’m looking at getting a few goats at some point in the future. This sort of set up would be brilliant at fattening up the weepers before sending them off to market. It’d be even cheaper still if I could barter a Kidd or two for a few hundred kilos of grain. 😃
Excellent explanation really enjoyed
was cooking bacon and eggs while this was running, but how many cows, productivity on this. I am gonna be focused on a new barn and work shop this year. thinking of a screened lean to work on some type of fodder system and possibly slidding doors for ease of access to it. (harvested rain./pond water should be used and natural heat/sunlight) I might even try piping a control valve off the barn to harvest into a tank and some in a bay engineered to store maybe 20 gallons of water at any time and excess goes over to the 20k gallon tank neat video, but could be doing a better operation of things to be honest.
Start from where you are
Time et effort perfects
Nice, my wife does this with wheat for our rabbits.
What the best temperature for fodder?
Absolutely amazing content. Thank you
Great system. Thx for the info.
Amazing! I'm a novice from South East Asia /Philippines. I really like more info on how to start.
There is a ton of information here on UA-cam. Did you read my comments in the description box? Also, there are some good fodder groups on Facebook you could look into and maybe find folks from your own region.
Hi again. I tried mixed seeds from local poultry market. Philipino style. It's making bubbles on surface. I did soak, rinse and used bleach. It's more than 24hours now. Wish I could share pics.. Fb. Messenger?
Hi again. I tried mixed seeds from local poultry market. Philipino style. It's making bubbles on surface. I did soak, rinse and used bleach. It's more than 24hours now. Wish I could share pics.. Fb. Messenger?
Thank you for the clear instructions. I notice the grass is pretty green. Do the trays get any sun at all? Is your grain feed grade and should the grains be untreated (anything else?)?
I'd like to know these, too.
I also wanna know
Good tutorial. Appreciate it
Such a great information
watching from india 🇮🇳
This is a great tutorial. Do you know how much supplies ran you to get started? I'd love to do this for my chickens!
lulubelle3188 .... The racks were around $35 each and I used two I bought from Home Depot or Lowe’s. The black trays were about the same for 10 (I think). The soaking and such can be had for free.
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Have you had any problems with crop compaction with the chickens? I know those pea shoots can be kind of stringy and that bottom tray seemed kind of long. Also, how much do you give per bird roughly? I have 8 chickens and would like to give 2 trays per day for all 8. Does that seem like too much or too little?
The fodder was primarily for rabbits and whatever was left went to chickens. I'd think a tray for 4 hens would be good and 2 for 8 fine. I wouldn't use it for they're only food source but I think what you stated would be a good start.
I think that would be the maximum I would give them, plus their feed of course. Thanks for the response and video!
I am so excited to try this! I couldn’t see from the video but would be interested to see how you have the watering system set up. I could see the PVC pipes on top of the metal shelving unit but not how they are all hooked together. Could you please show/tell me how you did that? I am going to recreate your set up at my place. I loved your video, so informative.
Great video. I learned something that I knew nothing about.
Glad it was helpful!
thank you nice system for places with less rains and hot climates thank you
HElko. Thank you for sharing vdo, very interesting system. May I ask how many times you have to water the plants in a day or you have run the system all day long?
I water them every 3 hours for about 5 minutes
@@korlimservices4180 and don't get moldy?
@@danielfarkas5579 No Sir. They dont !
Liked your set up! Good video.
Exactly what I needed to know 👌🏾
Thank a lot.
I enjoyed viewing your system working.
Please inform if the trickling of water is continuous or if there are intervals? How many days for growing to feed the animals?
Tks much
The trickling is continuous as seen in the video. There's a good flow yet not too strong to disturb the newest sprouts.
Is that really necessary? I mean, thats wasting a lot of water
We are just starting to do this for our 150+ chickens! 😀 Do they eat the root system, too?
Oh yeah!
A good video, self-explanatory
Thank you for your video
Luke, I am your Fodder... 😂😂
smart idea, slant the tray
thats incredible....thanks
Awesome 👍 Thanks exactly what I was thinking of doing
suggestion...collect the running water and give it to ur plants...no waste of water since that is getting harder and harder to come by.,
We did collect the water in Rubbermaid totes that equated to around 20 liters at each watering. We then used the water for the grass, flowers and planter beds. We stopped this because we moved it into the shower but also because the system has to be manageable by all of our family members and 20+ liters of water could not be moved by the kids. Awesome comment and conservation ideas though!
I understand why this works for his family. I would take the same system and plumb it fir grey water. My kitchen sink has grey water plumbed to an awesome lemon grass and mint garden growing crazy big crops!
I will start worrying about water reserves when the meat industry (and government) does. It takes 66 gallons of water and destruction to the Amazon rain forest (and world) to produce one cancer causing beef burger... Go figure!
Freshwater is getting harder to come by because usa is selling it to China thay were jest pumping it into big ships but thay made a law so thay can't do that now so thay ship it in tones of bottles to get away with it. $$$ will buy anything and destroy everything.
mohawksniper79 Can you please quote your sources on this?
Awesome video thank you. I would love to see an experiment done on your channel where you use Backing Soda instead of Bleach, I feel it might be healthier but I am unsure if it would prevent mold in this system. Thank you 💗
I used baking soda in the past as well as hydrogen peroxide but didn't get very good results. But, results vary in regions so I would never dismiss the idea for you or someone else.
What about colloidal silver instead of bleach?
Use a 0.1% potassium permanganate solution. It is safe and effective and inexpensive. It is odorless and tasteless. It is used all over the world to treat drinking water. It's used to treat fungal infections for feet at higher concentrations.
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for sharing this video! My chickens are going to love this!
I'm so glad!
Molly Joy - Did they love it?
@@annwithaplan9766 They did, indeed!
Is there any special seed to use as fodder for chickens? My chicks love grass and they have completely eaten every blade of grass in their run area. I would love to grow some for them.
Mine too. I've been wanting to make a box with a screen over it. I've seen it done. As the greens grow, they nibble. I didn't know what to use to get started. This sounds perfect
When you use fodder for feeding animals, do you have to run some kind of calculation on converting how much fodder would equal how much real grain?
How do you do this without wasting grain, but not overfeeding also?
Add in your better quality food. Chickens will eat what they want. You will notice how much grain you are over feeding, so give less in accordance. Ask the chickens, not youtube.
Very cool system.
I appreciate your video as a newbie
Thank you I have been interested in sprouting for my goats and chickens. Any idea how much a good system? I have been thinking about using the bakery type shelves that roll around.
It's the trays that you should work around. The shelf system you mention should be able to handle the trays.
CK Knife and Tool thanks
Home Depot sells multiple sizes of wheels that can be mounted to those wire rack shelves, which they also sell.
I might have missed it, but while they are in the rack system are they being water 24/7? Or is it on a timer two or three times a day?
Twice a day. Once in the morning and once in the evening
CK Knife and Tool awesome thanks for the reply! Also do you feed your chickens anything else in addition to this?
Scratch and Peck, various scraps every now and then from the house, meal worms, expired (or close to it) oatmeal and cereals. Mostly this is in the winter when the bugs and such are less prevalent.
CK Knife and Tool are meal worms considered a treat? Or could you make that part of there daily diet if you could breed enough of them?
It's a supplement to us. Winter time treat only. All depends on what you have at your disposal and budget.
This system is good that you power water on top and it flows up to down trays
Great video. Thanks!
Thank you so much for the video but how often do you water the trays?
Favour Desimhi.... Watering is twice a day.
Thanks - informative video. Why field peas? I have seen mixing sunflower seeds with barley but not peas. Do the chickens like it better? Is the barley/pea cheaper mix than straight barley?
Field pea had a higher growth percentage and a higher protein percentage. I tried BOSS (Black oil sunflower seed) and where it did grow in this system, it didn't yield as much compared to Field Pea. BOSS is just easier to get.
CK Knife and Tool thanks for the response - what is the mix ratio of pea/barley
The 40 gal can can hold around 125 lbs. and the field pea I've used came in 40 lb bags where the barley was 50 lb bags. I did say a 30/70 (barley/field pea)
@@CKKnifeandTool where do you purchase your feed? I've looked online and only found azure to have barely and field pea. I know in your information box under the video it says to look in the comments. I dont know if anyone has asked but I've watched the video 8 times and read all comments and can't see where you purchase your grains. Thanks so much! Great video do much information.
Teaching is very clear; thank you.
Awesome Tutorial
How much of it do you feed per rabbit daily?
We did about a 4” square per rabbit. This video has a bit more info but is a little older. Still relevant to today though. Hope it helps.
ua-cam.com/video/17v0bAb-JHk/v-deo.html
I am so sorry I do not have any answer for that I do not raise rabbits to eat I don't know how much you would feed them anyway if they they were pet's