@@BoeingOfficial they are patreons, the comment section usually on these videos makes jokes about James Bissonnette because he's always been mentioned at the end of the video but Kelly moneymaker was the second most mentioned
James Bisonette and Kelly Moneymaker: a feud as long as time to determine who can pay that guy's bills for longer. Well, today, Kelly Moneymaker has become history, and James Bisonette came out victorious. To all the Kelly Moneymaker supporters: RIP Kelly, 2019-2024. You are all part of this history now. And we have learned over the years, that history, does, indeed, matter.
On that note, I will now (edit: incorrectly) quote myself: [THIS IS WRONG, leaving for posterity] "As far as I can ascertain, James Bissonette is first thanked for supporting the channel in the video "Ten Minute History - World War One and International Relations (Short Documentary)", uploaded November 6th, 2018" *It's ACTUALLY "Ten Minute History - The Dutch Revolt (Short Documentary)", uploaded 28th of August, 2018* Kelly Moneymaker is first thanked on-screen in "Why does Russia Own Kaliningrad/Königsberg? (Short Animated Documentary)", uploaded 13th of September, 2019 She is first thanked verbally in "How Harsh was the Treaty of Versailles Really? (Short Animated Documentary)", uploaded 11th of December 2019 I would also like to acknowledge Skye Schapelle(?) forgive me if I misspelt that Sky(e?), who has been supporting the channel since "Ten Minute History - Mussolini and Fascist Italy", uploaded 5th of February, 2019 And a shout out to Christian S. Trenk, whose name has been appearing on screen for as long as James' name has been being read out.
@TheRealMycanthrope But the real question is, my dear friend, is when did the esteemed Kelly Moneymaker make their first appearance in the accreditations of said channel's videos? The starting year given by me was but an assumption judging on my personal experiences, and has no scientific backing. Further research into the first accreditation of our esteemed Kelly is needed for clarity of the information, dear colleague.
As far as I can ascertain, James Bissonette is first thanked for supporting the channel in the video (edited, previous was incorrect) "Ten Minute History - The Dutch Revolt (Short Documentary)", uploaded 28th of August, 2018. (I'm absolutely sure this time, I did the work on this one) Kelly Moneymaker is first thanked on-screen in "Why does Russia Own Kaliningrad/Königsberg? (Short Animated Documentary)", uploaded 13th of September, 2019 She is first thanked verbally in "How Harsh was the Treaty of Versailles Really? (Short Animated Documentary)", uploaded 11th of December 2019 I would also like to acknowledge Skye Schapelle(?) forgive me if I misspelt that Sky(e?), who has been supporting the channel since "Ten Minute History - Mussolini and Fascist Italy", uploaded 5th of February, 2019 And a shout out to Christian S. Trenk, whose name has been appearing on screen for as long as James' name has been being read out. (Later edit to add an "s" to "Bissonette", as this is the correct spelling)
I just asked this ChatGPT to make it look like you only wasted your time, but... "I don't have access to specific video scripts or archival data from UA-cam channels, including the History Matters channel. To find the first mention of Kelly Moneymaker in the supporters list, *you could search through the channel's videos and check the end credits for each one,* or look into the description of specific videos where the supporters are noted. If you have any further questions or need information on another topic, feel free to ask!" The balls on that thing to suggest I do its dirty job myself...
Waste of time, effort and money, IMHO. Other countries where those in power spend effort to rename places (or things like schools, museums, airports and public buildings) obviously can't prioritize.
Same reason there's no point in switching the US to metric, science n important shit's already done in metric so what you're really talkin about is spending a shitton of money to replace every roadsign in the country.
Tradition is another reason, which partially relates to can't be bothered. If you grow up all your life calling your territory a certain name, changing it seems kind of silly. Now if those British people had been slave owners, then you might see a push now days to change those state names. But then again, that movement to push the renaming of things has faded away. No one even suggested renaming Washington D.C. But that movement might start up again if another black man gets beaten by police.
He was going going to say "I hope you suffer because of this episode" but realized the algorithm wouldn't work promote the video so he decided not to do so
King William, King and Queens, Charles City, Prince George, James City, King George, Caroline, Hanover, Amelia, Brunswick, Mecklenburg, Henrico, and I’m sure many other places are named after British royalty. All those names are affiliated with the royal family’s of the Stuart’s or the Hanovers. Maryland has a lot of them too
I live near Manassas, Virginia, in *Prince William* County. British place names are everywhere here, but no one seems to notice. I did, because I moved here from further west, and have a British parent. I used to live in an apartment complex here named for the Duke of Wellington...which was adjacent to Hastings Drive, Wellington Road, and Dumfries Road...
0:27 it's ten, technically. Delaware was named after the Delaware river, which was named after the title of an english governor : sir Thomas West, third baron de la Warr.
As an American, there is some discussion from changing Kansas to "James Bissonette" but we can't decide on the proper font, and only if Nebraska becomes "Kelly Moneymaker".
One of the most intersting thing about US history in general is our geneal acceptance of keeping either original names or the names of places we were given when land was transfered, which is why the US has place names in English, French, Spanish, Russian (I'm looking at you Alaska), or through one of the many American Indian names. If you look at a lot of other former European colonies, in Asia or Africa, a lot of place names were changed after the european power left. India city names are a good example. Although for some odd reason Naimibia kept a lot of German city names, even after they were occupied by the South Africans during WW1. Now that I have spoken from my Soapbox, I have a new GeologyHub video to watch :D
I enjoy when we decide to pick a different pronunciation for a place named after a more famous location for no real reason. Doubly so when the more famous location is also in the US like the towns of Oregon Wi and Nevada Iowa.
Namibia used to and may still have some things named after Goering, but it's Heinrich Goering, who was a colonial governor and not as notorious as one of his sons.
I once asked in a comment, "How does Kelly Moneymaker make her money?" Kelly herself replied to me, "By working as a nurse." A proud day for me in UA-cam terms.
It's like your episode about the Philippines. They kept the name because they couldn't agree on a better one that everyone liked, so they just kept the name that everybody hated equally.
Something else i"ve noticed about the counties in the original thirteen is that while the Cavalier colonies of the south have districts named for the high aristocracy (Virginia has York, King & Queen, Henrico, Chesterfield (same with South Carolina), Queen Anne and Prince George for Maryland, Charlotte and Mecklenburg for North Carolina, etc.) while the names in New England are more typically named for where the first branch of settlers originated (Essex, Plymouth, Hartford, Hampshire, etc.) or by general names of triumph (Providence, New Haven). Meanwhile the majority of New York counties outside the Hudson region are a mix of names given by post-Revolutionary settlers or names from the time of Haudenosaunee dominance, meaning that these regions as a whole can be read a way to rack the progress of American settlement and its demographics with the principle extending to the commoner north and the aristocratic south.
Don’t forget the counties. Most states that were originally colonies didn’t even bother with changing those names. Thus you get a weird situation where three of the major counties around Washington, DC now bear the names of present British royalty-Charles County (corresponding to our present King Charles III), Prince William County (corresponding to our present Prince of Wales) and Prince George’s County (corresponding to the young son of our present Prince of Wales).
First time in a while watching a video of yours. Glad you're no longer rushing your narrative at a hundred words-per-second but also hope you consider doing longer videos in the future, a la CGP Grey.
I think it was Niall Ferguson who said that "the American Revolution" was in many ways not so much a rejection of Britishness but rather an emphatic assertion of it, or something like that.
Scotland is part of Britain. The first monarchs of Britain were Scottish. The British Empire was administered and defended by Scottish civil servants and soldiers. So yeah, makes sense to me
@@charlottescrafts I know that, I know the Stuarts, I know the Scots supplied the Empire's best troops in colonial period, some its best scientists, engineers, generals, etc. So they are stakeholders. On the other hand, I know Robert the Bruce, the Jacobite Rebellions and what came after, I saw how popular Braveheart was, and I just watched the Scots openly debate seceding from the UK a couple of years ago. So it both does and doesn't make sense to me, and I find that ironically funny.
It really was a far left revolution that only occured in part of the British nation, becoming a separatist civil war. The Americans saw themselves as basically being "one of the newer bits" of Britain. They effectively couldn't align that with the rotten borough and lord systems. The english at the time viewed themselves as unusually forward and free since compared to say France or the Holy Roman Empire, Britain was very progressive. They allowed a whole 1% of the population to vote even.
Because they are different states 😆 You forgot the two Virginias... that's a Civil War thing. There's a great book named "How the States got their Shapes" (and a less good TV show... although the first season is actually good.) that explains the various reasons.... mostly because of differing economic and political interests. Plus, we're a big country... plenty of space to divide up.
I assume the "The Catholic One" is Maryland and only refers to Queen Mary's name and then riffs on her version of Christianity for the joke. But at the time of the revolution/constitutional-convention, Maryland had laws barring Catholics and Jews from holding elected/appointed office in (and maybe employment with) Maryland's government. I don't know how many other states had similar laws.
Also keep in mind that the names had been around for around 100-200 years (depending on who you consider "the first to colonize" an area and would have made a lot of people angry (general public) because they were far more "loyal to a state" than a specific government. Also, while it was against the British.... the American Revolution War was NOT entirely against the British Monarch so much as British TAXES. Meaning that even AFTER the victory, most of the US political figures KNEW that they would have to establish trade/good-will with the UK overall, and attempting to change state names at that point would have upset the British Monarch, making any NEW trade/good-will gestures more likely to fail before they actually began.
This is the first time I knew there even was any talk of changing the states' names. Trying to erase all British influence would have been impossible. There were so many cities and towns throughout the colonies named after British places.
Even then, most sane people realised the futility of it. Especially considering that at the time many continued to consider themselves culturally British even if the political ties were severed. I seem to remember reading that there was one guy who so wanted rid of British influence that he demanded the USA no longer speak English and instead everyone should learn to speak ancient Greek because it was the true language of democracy! I can only imagine the looks people must have given him!
Australia also has British names for our states. A big north-eastern state wanted to name itself after Queen Victoria, but my home state had already taken 'Victoria' so they other went 'okay...Queensland it is!'
The strange thing about New York is that when the Duke of York became King James II, he was so unpopular that hew was soon after chased out the country by his own daughter and her Dutch husband, the famous King William & Queen Mary. One of King James's unpopular innovations was to reorganize several of England's colonies (including New York) into the Dominion of New England. William & Mary quietly reversed the creation of the Dominion and appointed new royal governors, and new charters, for each of the old colonies under their traditional names.
I was literally just thinking about Colonial America and, *Bam!* History Matters makes a video! Awesome! Also, Pennsylvania Mentioned! RIP KellyMoneymaker
It’s more of Maine wanted to be independent. They didn’t get protection from Massachusetts during the war of 1812 as the Brit’s owned Nova Scotia and New Brunswick at the time and wanted to get more land and more direct routes between Halifax and Montreal/Quebec City. So they applied for statehood and Massachusetts was fine with it but Maine couldn’t really get to statehood because of the coasting act. Once that was cleared they applied for statehood, problem is the issue with slavery became tied with it and it was the Yang to Missiouri’s Ying with the Missouri Compromise.
I don't really care if they would name after the British I consider it a part of history and getting rid of everything is like getting rid of our history of the British
I like how you have the British names in the east, the French names in the middle and the Spanish names in the west. And everywhere you also have the Indian names. Its like you can see Americas history by looking at a map.
1:09 'why? well, the most important reason is that names have a lot of sticking power.' didn't prevent Americans (and many others) from changing names on the map (plus their personal names, newspaper titles etc) during or after WW1 which looked too German. in the UK the reigning house changed its name too.
FWIW, the Declaration of Independence stated "it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another", no mention of cultural issues.
So kinda like the same reason why there is still a "Kaiserslautern" in Germany and France is still called "Frankreich" in German. Renaming places is hard.
A lot of Americans saw themselves as English (Welsh, Cornish, Scottish or Irish), and England (or britain) as their mother country. The whole war was fought over their lack of the, 'rights of natural born Englishmen'.
What were these rights? Universal suffrage was not introduced in Great Britain until 1918 (males) and 1928 (females). The electorate was tiny until 1832, then smallish until 1867. Many British people were subject to taxation without representation in 1776 so Americans in the colonies were demanding something which most British people (and most of the world's population) did not have. The vast majority of those redcoats they were fighting hand to hand did not have it either. These were not recognised "rights of natural-born Englishmen" - it was special privileges for a certain ruling class in the colonies so not, perhaps, as noble as might appear.
I think another reason was because of simplicity and convince. Those States already had the names in their colonial days so, changing them could be hard since it would take a while for everyone to learn that the name had changed (Especially back then, even more so for people in rural Communites) and for them to actually use the new name. Instead of what everyone already knew it as. I mean a lot of people still write it as Turkey, not Türkiye or refer to all of the Netherlands as Holland since that's what they are used to. Although it has been done a fair amount of times with success. As Someone in Ontario we have two places that have famously changed their name the first is our Capital Ottawa, which was called Bytown and Kitchener which used to be called Berlin, but was changed during WW1 die to anti-German sentiments.
I just realized this entire channel is probably him just being curious and asking questions that he does the research to answer, and then he uses it to make a video as a side thing
I love how the comment section, instead of talking about the video's subject focuses on the fact that Kelly Moneymaker was not mentioned
I feel the opposite.
We have priorities okay
Don't care
Who are they
@@BoeingOfficial they are patreons, the comment section usually on these videos makes jokes about James Bissonnette because he's always been mentioned at the end of the video but Kelly moneymaker was the second most mentioned
RIP Kelly Moneymaker
Stopped making money just Kelly now
Kelly MinimumWageWorker@@etdabeast13
@@etdabeast13this is a bar fr
Bills come due for everyone... Except James Bisonette.
He is still alive. Kelly was simply imprisoned for counterfeiting money, so his donations turned out to be worthless.
James Bisonette and Kelly Moneymaker: a feud as long as time to determine who can pay that guy's bills for longer.
Well, today, Kelly Moneymaker has become history, and James Bisonette came out victorious.
To all the Kelly Moneymaker supporters: RIP Kelly, 2019-2024. You are all part of this history now. And we have learned over the years, that history, does, indeed, matter.
On that note, I will now (edit: incorrectly) quote myself: [THIS IS WRONG, leaving for posterity] "As far as I can ascertain, James Bissonette is first thanked for supporting the channel in the video "Ten Minute History - World War One and International Relations (Short Documentary)", uploaded November 6th, 2018"
*It's ACTUALLY "Ten Minute History - The Dutch Revolt (Short Documentary)", uploaded 28th of August, 2018*
Kelly Moneymaker is first thanked on-screen in "Why does Russia Own Kaliningrad/Königsberg? (Short Animated Documentary)", uploaded 13th of September, 2019
She is first thanked verbally in "How Harsh was the Treaty of Versailles Really? (Short Animated Documentary)", uploaded 11th of December 2019
I would also like to acknowledge Skye Schapelle(?) forgive me if I misspelt that Sky(e?), who has been supporting the channel since "Ten Minute History - Mussolini and Fascist Italy", uploaded 5th of February, 2019
And a shout out to Christian S. Trenk, whose name has been appearing on screen for as long as James' name has been being read out.
@TheRealMycanthrope But the real question is, my dear friend, is when did the esteemed Kelly Moneymaker make their first appearance in the accreditations of said channel's videos? The starting year given by me was but an assumption judging on my personal experiences, and has no scientific backing. Further research into the first accreditation of our esteemed Kelly is needed for clarity of the information, dear colleague.
Also James Bissonette is always on top, so.....
@@Ola20089 How. Dare. You?! On Kelly Moneymaker's dead body?!
As a proud member of the Kelly Moneymaker group, I inform you we joined to the Captain Sidedog gang.
We need a video entitled "Why did Kelly Moneymaker leave the video credits"
Probably Britain's fault
But a 10-Minute history version: a short video wouldn't have the right gravitas.
Got to be because of Napoleon
Because of Soviet intelligence
@@leeham1405 Fun fact: No. It was Napoleon
What?! NO KELLY MONEYMAKER?!?!
Same.
I remember James Bissonnet was once not mentioned. Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Kelly Moneymaker couldn't make enough
someone needs to make kelly moneymaker in memoriam
No, she's financing the change the name of one American state 😃
WHAT HAPPENED TO KELLY MONEYMAKER??
I mean it's a paid subscription
She married Jerry Brokeson.
Maybe they ran out of money. 😔
Dude they MAKE money, it's in their name @@togerboy5396
@@togerboy5396He can just make more lol
0:56
"Sir! The farmers! They're revolting!"
"Ah, come on, that's a bit harsh, sure they smell a little but I wouldn't say they're revolting"
Elite refference
chicken run reference?
Oversimplified goes wild
@@philapinyo Oversimplified reference
@@philapinyoOversimplified's video on French Revolution
As far as I can ascertain, James Bissonette is first thanked for supporting the channel in the video (edited, previous was incorrect) "Ten Minute History - The Dutch Revolt (Short Documentary)", uploaded 28th of August, 2018. (I'm absolutely sure this time, I did the work on this one)
Kelly Moneymaker is first thanked on-screen in "Why does Russia Own Kaliningrad/Königsberg? (Short Animated Documentary)", uploaded 13th of September, 2019
She is first thanked verbally in "How Harsh was the Treaty of Versailles Really? (Short Animated Documentary)", uploaded 11th of December 2019
I would also like to acknowledge Skye Schapelle(?) forgive me if I misspelt that Sky(e?), who has been supporting the channel since "Ten Minute History - Mussolini and Fascist Italy", uploaded 5th of February, 2019
And a shout out to Christian S. Trenk, whose name has been appearing on screen for as long as James' name has been being read out.
(Later edit to add an "s" to "Bissonette", as this is the correct spelling)
Valuable research
I just asked this ChatGPT to make it look like you only wasted your time, but...
"I don't have access to specific video scripts or archival data from UA-cam channels, including the History Matters channel. To find the first mention of Kelly Moneymaker in the supporters list, *you could search through the channel's videos and check the end credits for each one,* or look into the description of specific videos where the supporters are noted. If you have any further questions or need information on another topic, feel free to ask!"
The balls on that thing to suggest I do its dirty job myself...
yup
you're doing god's work
Kelly Moneymaker might have been a man, my father was named Kelly.
It seems Kelly Moneymaker has been BANISHED. Her long and bloody feud with James Bisonette has resulted in a James Bisonette victory.
Moneymaker may still rise again...
The 5 year war has ended
I'm crying right now.
It turns out James Bisonette was the moneymaker all along
"Can't be bothered" must be the most understandable and relatable reason for not doing some things.
Waste of time, effort and money, IMHO. Other countries where those in power spend effort to rename places (or things like schools, museums, airports and public buildings) obviously can't prioritize.
Also somewhat ironically it’s a quite British response
Same reason there's no point in switching the US to metric, science n important shit's already done in metric so what you're really talkin about is spending a shitton of money to replace every roadsign in the country.
"Can't be bothered" is the greatest of traits of American culture.
Tradition is another reason, which partially relates to can't be bothered. If you grow up all your life calling your territory a certain name, changing it seems kind of silly. Now if those British people had been slave owners, then you might see a push now days to change those state names. But then again, that movement to push the renaming of things has faded away. No one even suggested renaming Washington D.C. But that movement might start up again if another black man gets beaten by police.
2:37 He didn’t say “I hope you enjoyed this episode”
heartbreaking
:O
*thud sound
Evil history matters be like: i hope you hated this episode.
He was going going to say "I hope you suffer because of this episode" but realized the algorithm wouldn't work promote the video so he decided not to do so
:c
Where is Kelley Moneymaker?
Probably stopped making money:(
is she safe? is she all right?
We need a welfare check on her
@@dw1419”it seems in your anger, you killed her.”
Where is boogilywoogily?!
What happened to Kelly Moneymaker
S/He stopped making money...
@@AduckButSpain Strange.
Just Kelly fpr you, call her money and maker is silent now
Went broke!
Passed away. Never to be forgotten.
Kelly, wherever you are thank you for your contributions
All the Kelly Moneymaker people finding learning the shame of when Party Boyco disappeared from the credits.
Party Boyco went against the Bisonette dictatorship and was assassinated
Kelly Moneymaker finally ran out of money
Underrated comment!
Let’s be honest, if you make your username “moneymaker”, you deserve to go
She'll now take on the name "Kelly Flat-broker."
Because James Bissonnette liked the names too much and so he wouldn’t let them change them
This is truly one of the Khanate of Khiva moments of all time
Zip it up once your done
Maybe he needs to up his patroon tier.
and hanga danga dingle Rodney Gheritt Crikey
One of the best history channels on UA-cam. Thanks for all the good work.
And in just 3 minute intervals as well.
@@frenzalrhomb6919l liked the ten minute videos better.
@mirzaahmed6589
Yeah, you're absolutely right. They were heaps more detailed and even funnier than the three minute ones . . If that's even possible!!
We need a community post on the loss of Kelly Moneymaker
Kelly Troublemaker!
I live in Virginia and the number of references to Britain are too many to count whether it’s cities, counties or rivers.
Hey hey! William and Mary alum here. The great Commonwealth forever
King William, King and Queens, Charles City, Prince George, James City, King George, Caroline, Hanover, Amelia, Brunswick, Mecklenburg, Henrico, and I’m sure many other places are named after British royalty. All those names are affiliated with the royal family’s of the Stuart’s or the Hanovers. Maryland has a lot of them too
I live near Manassas, Virginia, in *Prince William* County. British place names are everywhere here, but no one seems to notice. I did, because I moved here from further west, and have a
British parent. I used to live in an apartment complex here named for the Duke of Wellington...which was adjacent to Hastings Drive, Wellington Road, and Dumfries Road...
It's a shame New England is taken.
But New New England isn’t
Kelly Moneymaker has met defeat. On this very day. James Bissonette has won. The war is over guys
The Hamilton-Burr reference was a nice touch.
0:27 it's ten, technically. Delaware was named after the Delaware river, which was named after the title of an english governor : sir Thomas West, third baron de la Warr.
Wanted to say this.
I would have wanted to say this, if I'd actually known this.
I always thought it was after the Delaware tribe but, I guess that's not what they called themselves?
@@sonoftheway3528 Nope, from what i read, the Delaware tribe was name after the river and the bay, not the other way around.
@@sonoftheway3528 they actually called themselves the Heckawee
WOAH, Where’s Kelly Moneymaker?
0:15 This visual of the individual 13 States is very cool, also thank you for not making New Jersey look crappy like most visualizers do
Well it does that enough its self 😂
HEYOOOOOOO
New Jersey and New York have both the same Orange colour glad to see someone make a reference to the region New Netherlands of former Dutch colonies
@@TonySpike beat me to that joke
As an American, there is some discussion from changing Kansas to "James Bissonette" but we can't decide on the proper font, and only if Nebraska becomes "Kelly Moneymaker".
Bleeding James Bissonette doesn’t quite have that ring to it…
Uncle Sam with the dual AR-15s nearly made me spit my drink...lol
He kept them in the trunk of his Dodge Charger.
Merica!
Historically accurate
You know it's good when History Matters uploads
One of the most intersting thing about US history in general is our geneal acceptance of keeping either original names or the names of places we were given when land was transfered, which is why the US has place names in English, French, Spanish, Russian (I'm looking at you Alaska), or through one of the many American Indian names. If you look at a lot of other former European colonies, in Asia or Africa, a lot of place names were changed after the european power left. India city names are a good example. Although for some odd reason Naimibia kept a lot of German city names, even after they were occupied by the South Africans during WW1. Now that I have spoken from my Soapbox, I have a new GeologyHub video to watch :D
I enjoy when we decide to pick a different pronunciation for a place named after a more famous location for no real reason. Doubly so when the more famous location is also in the US like the towns of Oregon Wi and Nevada Iowa.
@@Dachshund-br8pj that need to change the pronounciation has thrown me for a loop a few times, espcially in Upstate New York :D
Okay, but I want Mount McKinley back to Mount McKinley.
Much to work with. Oregon's 36 county names include 9 indigenous names and a bunch of dead white guys. Why not more like Lake and Union?
Namibia used to and may still have some things named after Goering, but it's Heinrich Goering, who was a colonial governor and not as notorious as one of his sons.
I’m glad everyone else is also alarmed that Kelley MoneyMaker isn’t there
I once asked in a comment, "How does Kelly Moneymaker make her money?" Kelly herself replied to me, "By working as a nurse." A proud day for me in UA-cam terms.
"Where is Kelly Moneymaker, are they safe? Are they alright?"
"It seems.... in your anger, you killed her."
Inflation hit hard on Kelly Moneymaker
You might even say his assets shrank a bit.
Kelly needed the money for eggs
Kelly is not making money anymore.
Perhaps too much money was made hence the inflation.
It's like your episode about the Philippines. They kept the name because they couldn't agree on a better one that everyone liked, so they just kept the name that everybody hated equally.
1:58 nice bit of verisimilitude with the gun smoke.
Verisimilitude? You trying to get 90% of us to google that word?
A cromulent observation
Never thought of this one
Well, aren't you happy that someone did?
@ absolutely
@@Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie
👍
Same here!
Kelly Moneymaker lost his money and is now just Kelly Maker
Bad cryptocurrency play
It appears from the evidence that Kelly is actually a girl. How dare you misgender her!!! 😂
Something else i"ve noticed about the counties in the original thirteen is that while the Cavalier colonies of the south have districts named for the high aristocracy (Virginia has York, King & Queen, Henrico, Chesterfield (same with South Carolina), Queen Anne and Prince George for Maryland, Charlotte and Mecklenburg for North Carolina, etc.) while the names in New England are more typically named for where the first branch of settlers originated (Essex, Plymouth, Hartford, Hampshire, etc.) or by general names of triumph (Providence, New Haven). Meanwhile the majority of New York counties outside the Hudson region are a mix of names given by post-Revolutionary settlers or names from the time of Haudenosaunee dominance, meaning that these regions as a whole can be read a way to rack the progress of American settlement and its demographics with the principle extending to the commoner north and the aristocratic south.
They should’ve named a state after James Bissonnet for his funding of the Revolutionary War
Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
why they changed it i can’t say
@@mackenziecoleman8103 because the English stole it from the Dutch
@@mackenziecoleman8103 Maybe they liked it better that way?
@@mackenziecoleman8103People just like it better that way
@@Aureus_ So take me back to Constantinople
You no longer hope I enjoyed this episode? Thanks a lot, HistoryMatters.
0:10 biblically accurate american
Hahaha😂
Cue the 10000 James Bissonete jokes
All of them lame like those who post "First".
@@deadon4847 first timer or not subscribed for long enough?
Nah, everybody is distracted this time by the lack of Kelly Moneymaker.
Oddly enough everyone's focused on Kelly moneymaker
I wonder who James Bissonete actually is
0:56 nice Shay’s Rebellion reference.
Don’t forget the counties. Most states that were originally colonies didn’t even bother with changing those names. Thus you get a weird situation where three of the major counties around Washington, DC now bear the names of present British royalty-Charles County (corresponding to our present King Charles III), Prince William County (corresponding to our present Prince of Wales) and Prince George’s County (corresponding to the young son of our present Prince of Wales).
First time in a while watching a video of yours. Glad you're no longer rushing your narrative at a hundred words-per-second but also hope you consider doing longer videos in the future, a la CGP Grey.
I think it was Niall Ferguson who said that "the American Revolution" was in many ways not so much a rejection of Britishness but rather an emphatic assertion of it, or something like that.
Let us ponder the irony of a Scotsman saying that....
@@MM22966 I have a news flash for you... Scotland has been part of Britain for 200 years...
Scotland is part of Britain. The first monarchs of Britain were Scottish. The British Empire was administered and defended by Scottish civil servants and soldiers. So yeah, makes sense to me
@@charlottescrafts I know that, I know the Stuarts, I know the Scots supplied the Empire's best troops in colonial period, some its best scientists, engineers, generals, etc. So they are stakeholders.
On the other hand, I know Robert the Bruce, the Jacobite Rebellions and what came after, I saw how popular Braveheart was, and I just watched the Scots openly debate seceding from the UK a couple of years ago.
So it both does and doesn't make sense to me, and I find that ironically funny.
It really was a far left revolution that only occured in part of the British nation, becoming a separatist civil war. The Americans saw themselves as basically being "one of the newer bits" of Britain. They effectively couldn't align that with the rotten borough and lord systems.
The english at the time viewed themselves as unusually forward and free since compared to say France or the Holy Roman Empire, Britain was very progressive. They allowed a whole 1% of the population to vote even.
2:13 North Carolina mentioned!!!!💪😎💪
Sugestion to video: How did Japan react to the scramble of Africa?
Probably: "That's nice, but we're too busy scrambling Asia."
Very interesting topic. Add China too
They were more busy westernizing really
They went after Korea , Taiwan and Manchuria
Better one, why was Japan excluded.
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Why does America have two Carolinas and two Dakotas?
Because they are different states 😆 You forgot the two Virginias... that's a Civil War thing. There's a great book named "How the States got their Shapes" (and a less good TV show... although the first season is actually good.) that explains the various reasons.... mostly because of differing economic and political interests. Plus, we're a big country... plenty of space to divide up.
I wanted it to be because of Charles I and Charles II (but it's not).
I assume the "The Catholic One" is Maryland and only refers to Queen Mary's name and then riffs on her version of Christianity for the joke. But at the time of the revolution/constitutional-convention, Maryland had laws barring Catholics and Jews from holding elected/appointed office in (and maybe employment with) Maryland's government. I don't know how many other states had similar laws.
I think Rhode Island and Pennsylvania were better than the rest.
Is Maryland not named after Queen Mary of ‘Mary and William’’ fame? James VII &II was a Roman Catholic…
Actually just looked it up, Maryland is named after Queen Henrietta Maria who was the wife of King Charles I
NY's constitution barred Catholics from public office until 1806. NJ's until 1844.
@@brianaitkenhead4526 There is a college of William and Mary in Virginia.
I would have thought 'New England' would have at least given it a shot.
Washington East?
That's not a formal, official name though.
@@nlpnt Huh... I always thought it was one of the states. Guess I learned something new today.
Nope it's a region.
In The North East.
No idea why it's called that.
Also keep in mind that the names had been around for around 100-200 years (depending on who you consider "the first to colonize" an area and would have made a lot of people angry (general public) because they were far more "loyal to a state" than a specific government.
Also, while it was against the British.... the American Revolution War was NOT entirely against the British Monarch so much as British TAXES. Meaning that even AFTER the victory, most of the US political figures KNEW that they would have to establish trade/good-will with the UK overall, and attempting to change state names at that point would have upset the British Monarch, making any NEW trade/good-will gestures more likely to fail before they actually began.
City of Charlotte, City of Charlottesville, City of Augusta to name but 3 pre Revolutionary War place names still in use today.
Charleston SC is a big one, same with Charlestown in MA in Boston
This is the first time I knew there even was any talk of changing the states' names. Trying to erase all British influence would have been impossible. There were so many cities and towns throughout the colonies named after British places.
Even then, most sane people realised the futility of it. Especially considering that at the time many continued to consider themselves culturally British even if the political ties were severed. I seem to remember reading that there was one guy who so wanted rid of British influence that he demanded the USA no longer speak English and instead everyone should learn to speak ancient Greek because it was the true language of democracy! I can only imagine the looks people must have given him!
They kept the names because James Bissonette convinced all of them to do so
I appreciate this channel for answering questions that I wasn't going to ask. Now I know 😂
1:19 Promiscia had me choking 😂😂😂
Scrolled down for this😂
It's their name. Changing the names erases the history not only of the place, but the people who lived and worked there. Glad they kept the names.
Australia also has British names for our states. A big north-eastern state wanted to name itself after Queen Victoria, but my home state had already taken 'Victoria' so they other went 'okay...Queensland it is!'
As anyone who's worked in management knows, no one might do anything for years, but if you move to make a change, suddenly everyone has a better idea
The strange thing about New York is that when the Duke of York became King James II, he was so unpopular that hew was soon after chased out the country by his own daughter and her Dutch husband, the famous King William & Queen Mary. One of King James's unpopular innovations was to reorganize several of England's colonies (including New York) into the Dominion of New England. William & Mary quietly reversed the creation of the Dominion and appointed new royal governors, and new charters, for each of the old colonies under their traditional names.
can u make a vid on the history of grilled cheese sandwich?
I was literally just thinking about Colonial America and, *Bam!* History Matters makes a video! Awesome!
Also, Pennsylvania Mentioned!
RIP KellyMoneymaker
No "I hope you enjoyed this episode" or Kelly Moneymaker? What a tragic day.
We love our brothers and sisters across the pond. We may have fought a war for independence, but we still love them all the same.
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Please do "why didn't Massachusetts keep Maine?" video next!
iirc it was the "slave-free" state balance (cue missouri compromise)
It’s more of Maine wanted to be independent. They didn’t get protection from Massachusetts during the war of 1812 as the Brit’s owned Nova Scotia and New Brunswick at the time and wanted to get more land and more direct routes between Halifax and Montreal/Quebec City. So they applied for statehood and Massachusetts was fine with it but Maine couldn’t really get to statehood because of the coasting act. Once that was cleared they applied for statehood, problem is the issue with slavery became tied with it and it was the Yang to Missiouri’s Ying with the Missouri Compromise.
I went to High School in King George County, VA, which kept its name through the Revolution.
Pittsylvania County here. Representing the British prime minister and first Earl Chatham. Also a town down the street from my hometown
Hey! That's fairly close to where I grew up. I've lived in Texas 20 years now, but I grew up in Fauquier County
@@Bluestar1079 Who also has the city of Pittsburgh named after him.
WHERE IS KELLY MONEYMAKER???
Another amazing video
Kelly Moneymaker was my favorite name
Thank you for answering the questions about America that we've never asked.
2:37 it feels wrong when he doesn't say i hope you enjoyed this episode
Because they lost Kelly money maker
I can't decide if the You suck allusion to presumably Burr and Hamilton, or the It's Rome ghost is my favourite scene.
So pretty much practicality.
this made my day better
I don't really care if they would name after the British I consider it a part of history and getting rid of everything is like getting rid of our history of the British
And yet, we have woke fools doing exactly that kind of thing right now.
I like how you have the British names in the east, the French names in the middle and the Spanish names in the west. And everywhere you also have the Indian names. Its like you can see Americas history by looking at a map.
@@HermitKing731 Then there are the place names that just make you go "Why?".
Have you ever been to Bucksnort, TX?
@@HermitKing731 True plus A bit of German and scandinavian and Italian
Promiscia! Is that a "Virginia is for Lovers" reference? "Aaron Burr to be Shot" and "Aaron Burr to be shot again". ❤Love the Easter Eggs!❤
1:09 'why? well, the most important reason is that names have a lot of sticking power.' didn't prevent Americans (and many others) from changing names on the map (plus their personal names, newspaper titles etc) during or after WW1 which looked too German. in the UK the reigning house changed its name too.
2:07 I guess Aaron Burr must have been knee-capped the first time...
James Bisonette comes out on top once again!
0:40 actually it's the name of William Penn + the latin word for forest: "silva".
Yeah, and he could have expanded information on those states that did change their names.
@@cristiantalero96 No state changed its name after the Revolution. There were a few (like Massachusetts) that never had British names to begin with.
Can we bring back 10 minute history?
This is the same country with 67 towns called springfield. I dare say, thinking of original names for places is not their strongsuit.
Because James Bissonette rejected all proposed names
FWIW, the Declaration of Independence stated "it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another", no mention of cultural issues.
I am delighted to find out about the etymological origin of the state of Virginia's name.
It was named after the first person born there. Well, first English person born there but still.
Then you'll love the sketch Mitchell and Webb did about naming place names...
That's a way to say "our head of state doesn't fuck around".
recommendation for next episode: what happened to Kelly Moneymaker
Kelly aint Making that Money anymore
It’s a great day when history matters upload
So kinda like the same reason why there is still a "Kaiserslautern" in Germany and France is still called "Frankreich" in German. Renaming places is hard.
Not when you're a communist dictatorship, apparently. The eastern bloc changed cities' names more often than people changed pants.
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A lot of Americans saw themselves as English (Welsh, Cornish, Scottish or Irish), and England (or britain) as their mother country. The whole war was fought over their lack of the, 'rights of natural born Englishmen'.
What were these rights? Universal suffrage was not introduced in Great Britain until 1918 (males) and 1928 (females). The electorate was tiny until 1832, then smallish until 1867.
Many British people were subject to taxation without representation in 1776 so Americans in the colonies were demanding something which most British people (and most of the world's population) did not have. The vast majority of those redcoats they were fighting hand to hand did not have it either. These were not recognised "rights of natural-born Englishmen" - it was special privileges for a certain ruling class in the colonies so not, perhaps, as noble as might appear.
@@MrBulky992 you summed that up very well. The colonists were dreaming of something that didn't exist except in their imagination.
I think another reason was because of simplicity and convince. Those States already had the names in their colonial days so, changing them could be hard since it would take a while for everyone to learn that the name had changed (Especially back then, even more so for people in rural Communites) and for them to actually use the new name. Instead of what everyone already knew it as. I mean a lot of people still write it as Turkey, not Türkiye or refer to all of the Netherlands as Holland since that's what they are used to. Although it has been done a fair amount of times with success. As Someone in Ontario we have two places that have famously changed their name the first is our Capital Ottawa, which was called Bytown and Kitchener which used to be called Berlin, but was changed during WW1 die to anti-German sentiments.
The weirdest part is how even after the revolution many of the founding fathers still referred to themselves as "English" or "Englishmen"
Because the picture that is painted now is wrong.
Washington's idea of independence from Britain was different to that that is believed today.
I just realized this entire channel is probably him just being curious and asking questions that he does the research to answer, and then he uses it to make a video as a side thing
And here I thought New York was named after the city of York instead of the Duke.
As a Marylander and who works for the museums talking about the founding of Maryland, "The Catholic One" is hilarious to me!
HOLY SHIT BABE HISTORY MATTERS UPLOADED
James Bissonette has become too powerful