Smart people make the DUMBEST car buyers!

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  • @stevefarrey4055
    @stevefarrey4055 8 місяців тому +517

    I’m in sales. When someone is bragging about their job, I tell them “I used to work at Pizza Hut”.
    It a good way to end a conversation.

    • @sabrifilms198
      @sabrifilms198 7 місяців тому +16

      thats funny cause I used to work at Pizza HUt too.

    • @darthdaddy6983
      @darthdaddy6983 7 місяців тому +7

      I just keep bragging right through humble comments like that 😊

    • @henryp9600
      @henryp9600 7 місяців тому +1

      this is gold!

    • @jimbojimson
      @jimbojimson 5 місяців тому

      I used to work at Pizza Hut

  • @joeroad6618
    @joeroad6618 8 місяців тому +361

    As an Engineer of 30 years I know the exact kind of guy your talking about, these guys never stay at one place to long as they claim they are "no longer challenged by the job" but in reality it's because they realize everyone hates them and is purposely making their life miserable!

    • @MyRegardsToTheDodo
      @MyRegardsToTheDodo 8 місяців тому +6

      Or because their engineering degree basically came in a cornflakes box and they leave before everybody realizes that they are terrible at their job and they'd get fired.

    • @cspl6134
      @cspl6134 8 місяців тому +12

      *you could have said 'engineer' but had to add 30 years 😂😂😂

    • @MyRegardsToTheDodo
      @MyRegardsToTheDodo 8 місяців тому +14

      @@cspl6134He just wanted to clarify that he's really old and that you probably have to speak a bit louder when talking to him.

    • @BenX74
      @BenX74 8 місяців тому +1

      Oh, you mean losers who take it easy and who are made look bad by people who actually perform?

    • @ISLAMICSTORIES13
      @ISLAMICSTORIES13 8 місяців тому

      that was the corniest and most cliche joke ive ever read. are you a cartoon character? @afreedog

  • @MuddyTubMedia
    @MuddyTubMedia 8 місяців тому +490

    As an electrical engineer, I promise we’re not all like this. One thing I’ve learned in my short 5 years of being an engineer is that there are a lot of people who know a lot more than me, and the best thing I can do is listen.

    • @r3beatty
      @r3beatty 8 місяців тому +28

      And yet you started your comment with "As an electrical engineer". i hope that was an attempt at irony.

    • @MuddyTubMedia
      @MuddyTubMedia 8 місяців тому +62

      @@r3beatty what? The point was, I’m also an engineer. If I didn’t say that, how would you know? It brings validity to the rest of the comment. If I said “I’m a doctor and I can tell you not all engineers are like this”, that wouldn’t make any sense.

    • @Michael-fi6ve
      @Michael-fi6ve 8 місяців тому +36

      How do you know someone is an engineer? They’ll tell you.

    • @MuddyTubMedia
      @MuddyTubMedia 8 місяців тому +19

      @@Michael-fi6ve I worked hard for that degree 😂

    • @Derekzparty
      @Derekzparty 8 місяців тому +7

      ​​​​@@Michael-fi6veAnyone can say they are an engineer. Being presented with a detailed work history, relevant certifications and a degree from an accredited university is the only way to know for sure.

  • @mrwtfmate100
    @mrwtfmate100 8 місяців тому +101

    Had a similar issue with an aviation mechanic. I was repairing the wiring on his telehandler as he scolded me about splicing in 6 inches of wire that was different color than factory. He stated "im an aircraft technician, this would never pass inspection!" I took a deep breath and replied "if this machine ever gets airborne, you will have bigger issues to worry about than the color of wires I spliced in" He got the memo after that.

    • @vintageexcellence
      @vintageexcellence 7 місяців тому

      As an exotic car mechanic I just want to say - what’s wrong with you lazy bastard, just find the right color and people won’t laugh at your work in the future.

    • @adf360
      @adf360 4 місяці тому +1

      In their defense, you want that personality type working on your aircraft. Speaking from experience, I was/am incapable of cutting corners, not following technical data, or deviating for any reason. I was afforded an opportunity to work w/Lockheed during my military career as a result, I won't work for them for any amount of $$ because they demonstrated a culture more worried about 'ideology' than stringent/quality practices. You get to see Boeing's mistakes because they are on the civilian side, Lockheed's are shadowed over by the military curtain. I can fly for free anywhere in the world and I don't for a reason.

  • @FluffyFerretFarm
    @FluffyFerretFarm 8 місяців тому +948

    I worked in the parts/service depth for H-D for 23 years.. the absolute WORST customers were engineers.. in my opinion, if anyone that has to tell you how smart they are, they usually aren't as smart as they claim to be

    • @Sizukun1
      @Sizukun1 8 місяців тому +35

      They're terrible customers in my experience too: always wanting to show off how they understand the math behind your product or service, while still getting the rest of the situation completely wrong but they know more things, allegedly.

    • @maynarddrivesfast804
      @maynarddrivesfast804 8 місяців тому +25

      ​@@Sizukun1this has been my experience with engineers across three different industries. They could all tell you how things were SUPPOSED to work on paper, but when it came to physical application they had no idea. I guess I should clarify that this has been my experience with YOUNGER engineers who didn't have more than a few years on the job.

    • @TheBrokenLife
      @TheBrokenLife 8 місяців тому +30

      This is pretty universally true of anyone who feels a need to quote their resume to you, no matter their profession.

    • @icehawk2928
      @icehawk2928 8 місяців тому +15

      Why the tf was an engineer buying a Harley though? Lol

    • @EdwardYG-Li
      @EdwardYG-Li 8 місяців тому +35

      The problem is not engineers, it's the ones that have to tell you they're an engineer or how smart they are. 😂

  • @alanbriggs86
    @alanbriggs86 8 місяців тому +111

    Back when I was a tech at a dealership, I never realized how appreciative I should have been to have a service adviser in-between myself and the customer. The customer service aspect of any job is the hardest part. Doug tells these stories so well, and is so relatable.

    • @whatta7793
      @whatta7793 8 місяців тому +4

      Strongly agreed, lots of people just don't realize how customer service can end up being. It's arguably one of the worst parts about any job that requires even the slightest bit of it, and I'm actually pretty great at handling situations and sort of holding the "level", and it's still an absolutely massive headache. Jobs where you don't have to deal with customers is where it's at, like you just said. The best. Daydream it up while working, don't have to listen and comprehend someone else hogwash, and then come up with your own. Just zone out and do the job instead.

  • @ben501st
    @ben501st 8 місяців тому +380

    That wasn't an engineer. That was a project manager with an aerospace engineering degree.

    • @jhempsrt4
      @jhempsrt4 7 місяців тому +31

      My thoughts exactly. The three options thing is a dead give away, this guy is a PM.

    • @garythecyclingnerd6219
      @garythecyclingnerd6219 7 місяців тому +14

      Aerospace engineers don't earn enough to buy a GT3 lol. Definitely a manager of sorts or director. Most non-tech engineers never see more than $140k/yr.

    • @Tagerrun
      @Tagerrun 7 місяців тому +7

      @@garythecyclingnerd6219that’s still a shit load of money lol

    • @garythecyclingnerd6219
      @garythecyclingnerd6219 7 місяців тому +7

      @@Tagerrun Not anymore, especially if you live in a large metro area where houses are $750k. A house shouldn’t be more than 3x your annual income yet that’s not even the average transaction price anymore. I know it feels crazy to say especially when you’ve never seen $100k/yr but it’s really not that great. You’re still very much at risk of never retiring.
      And you certainly aren’t buying ANY GT P cars. A 4S or maybe an old Turbo.

    • @rwdplz1
      @rwdplz1 7 місяців тому +1

      Be shocked if he had the degree, he's managing engineers, therefore he must be smarter than the engineers!

  • @chrisl461
    @chrisl461 8 місяців тому +159

    You can also guarantee he’s not a very good aerospace engineer. It reeks of insecurity when someone keeps trying to impress you with their job title. Genuinely smart and successful people don’t need to boost their ego every 2 minutes.

    • @MrSeanman30
      @MrSeanman30 8 місяців тому

      I'm a NOTARY! I know everything. But I'm not a judge.

    • @すどにむ
      @すどにむ 8 місяців тому +1

      Maybe they work for the lowest bidder of the space part of aerospace

    • @ISLAMICSTORIES13
      @ISLAMICSTORIES13 8 місяців тому

      he only being a notary because it was relevant@@MrSeanman30

    • @casualsweater
      @casualsweater 7 місяців тому +1

      @@すどにむahahahahahahahah that was creative

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 7 місяців тому

      i bet he works at boeing.

  • @stuffhappens5681
    @stuffhappens5681 8 місяців тому +40

    I owned a retail business. Had my share of nightmarish customers. Many times I told my staff selling is like fishing. You gotta know which ones to throw back into the water.

    • @jamesmedina2062
      @jamesmedina2062 8 місяців тому

      hahahahaha thats a mistake for sure. We can cover for our sales weaknesses by only reeling in big fish and hungry fish. Thats easy. Not so easy is reeling in EVERY fish that comes our way. And maybe not that day but we can get a bullseye target created in the customer's mind which if the money is not in his pocket that day can find a way into his pocket at some later date. I have too often ran across mediocre and unmotivated sales agents and even worse: uncreative sales managers. They are the absolute worse!

    • @stuffhappens5681
      @stuffhappens5681 8 місяців тому +3

      @@jamesmedina2062 - You don’t know squat. The wrong customer will cost you money. If you’re a good salesman you see the signs and cut them loose to prey on someone else.

  • @Hope4NewDay1
    @Hope4NewDay1 8 місяців тому +33

    One of the most important things I've learned in the engineering field so far is that the best engineers ask questions so they can listen more than they have to talk and they are able to explain complex concepts and ideas to anyone on a middle school reading level. The guy mentioned in the video is every thing I hate in an engineer lol.

  • @rjnation5042
    @rjnation5042 8 місяців тому +149

    Most people have heard of the phase,
    "The customer is always right" that's not the complete quote,
    " The customer is always right, when it comes to taste" is the full quote, Rj in Oz

    • @RadialSeeker113
      @RadialSeeker113 8 місяців тому +3

      Lol no. Ferrari won't sell you a bedazzeled sf90 coz of how distasteful it is.

    • @LovelessAndroid
      @LovelessAndroid 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@RadialSeeker113
      No, but if no one bought a certain model of Ferrari, they would stop making it.

    • @paulcarmi8130
      @paulcarmi8130 8 місяців тому

      The sears saying (remember sears and roebuck?) Was "the customer is always right, until the point that the customer reads the fine print, then they will realize they are wrong". Thats close anyway

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 8 місяців тому +2

      We can see your name. Why the signature line?

    • @paulcarmi8130
      @paulcarmi8130 8 місяців тому

      @@joshuagibson2520 because he's a ho----mo

  • @jblyon2
    @jblyon2 8 місяців тому +18

    I'm a systems engineer. Honestly one of the most critical parts to succeed at my job is knowing when I DON'T know something so that I can defer to someone who does. I can say, at least based on personal experience, that this is sadly a rare trait. I know what I know, and I'll push back hard against people who clearly don't know what I know, but the moment you step outside that personal knowledge bubble you better be talking with someone who actually has the appropriate knowledge for that scenario.

  • @kimblem.w9952
    @kimblem.w9952 8 місяців тому +171

    When Reddit Mods go to a Porsche dealership

    • @MagMan4x4
      @MagMan4x4 7 місяців тому +3

      Lmao gold comment

  • @AhsanU
    @AhsanU 8 місяців тому +76

    A drummer that skips or misses rehearsals is extremely common 😂

    • @switchcars
      @switchcars 8 місяців тому +2

      Underrated comment.

    • @dougrobinson8602
      @dougrobinson8602 7 місяців тому +4

      Especially if they've spontaneously combusted.

    • @dannork1240
      @dannork1240 7 місяців тому +4

      Every time I’ve seen it, it’s because that drummer is in like 7 bands and can’t remember WHICH band is playing what day😂

    • @wydopnthrtl
      @wydopnthrtl 5 місяців тому

      LOL... I'm thinking yeah right you gave your word. Customer sitting there and making a profit vs banging on drums and spending currency.

  • @Trex6767
    @Trex6767 8 місяців тому +25

    As a Toyota technician, I’m not a fan of customer engineers either.
    Dude brought in his highlander complaining that air was blowing lightly on his face when set to feet. So I print out the literature from TOYOTA that says it’s normal to have some air movement from other vents. He began to tell me how it’s wrong cuz he’s an engineer. I don’t understand how one engineer is right compared to the teams of engineers that built the car, but who am I judge

  • @fortijr
    @fortijr 8 місяців тому +29

    My dad was a brilliant mechanical engineer. I always played with his ring. He told me it was to remind engineers that they too can make mistakes, and that they have a huge responsibility. The Canadian rings were rumoured to have been made from the iron recovered when the Quebec City bridge collapsed twice under construction killing 88 men. It seems many engineers pick up the cocky part and not the responsibility part.

    • @jebeda
      @jebeda 6 місяців тому +1

      I had always thought the metal was from the bridge, but the Wikipedia article claims that this is a myth as you stated. - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Ring

    • @patrick383ironworker
      @patrick383ironworker 5 місяців тому

      As a structural ironworker; this should be true

  • @blockpartyvintage1568
    @blockpartyvintage1568 8 місяців тому +37

    I hope he sees this

  • @Austinandjules
    @Austinandjules 8 місяців тому +29

    I worked at a tim hortons when I was sixteen. The owner would tell us he's an engineer every day we saw him. 1 day it took him 3 hours to figure out how to change rubber seal in the clean water tank on the toilet😂😂😂

    • @MyRegardsToTheDodo
      @MyRegardsToTheDodo 8 місяців тому +7

      ​@@drsrsv8884 Even if you don't know how to do that, these things either come with instructions or you can find a youtube video on how to do it, it's not that complicated. And yes, it is the own they think it is, it shows that the engineer had no practical skills whatsoever.

    • @8kigana
      @8kigana 7 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@MyRegardsToTheDodoI love youtube, so many experts or guys who have experience or know how to fix stuff or answer things from stay at home moms to former Delta Force operators 😆.

    • @SkylineFTW97
      @SkylineFTW97 7 місяців тому

      ​@@drsrsv8884It should mean that he can quickly figure out how to do a basic repair or at least know where he can find the relevant info. I studied engineering myself. I already had practical experience doing this sort of thing before. My dad was a plumber and started taking me on jobs with him when I was 12 or so in order to gain experience actually inspecting and repairing stuff.

  • @jayring77
    @jayring77 8 місяців тому +33

    All I saw was the title and a Porsche and my mind immediately screamed "DOUG STORY!!" - Doug car story is best car story. Love what he's putting out there on @switchcars. That collection of trucker stories was huge fun.

    • @MrSeanman30
      @MrSeanman30 8 місяців тому +1

      You honestly believe this dude tells the best stories? The guy with the cartel truck does in my opinion. This Doug guy flexed a "Customers" Lamborghini because he was trying to shame a man for lying about his not car being a real Lamborghini. Is that just not odd to you?

    • @jayring77
      @jayring77 8 місяців тому

      @@MrSeanman30 His stories make me laugh the most 🤷‍♂️ and I can appreciate most of the customers he's had to wade through to get where he is today. Plus I hold similar disdain for Corvette owners 😑

    • @MrSeanman30
      @MrSeanman30 8 місяців тому +1

      @jringhisen seems like he creates many of the problems. Ie going after a dude in a fake Lamborghini that is no customer of his or anything. That would be like taking your parents car to Prom and pretending your dad's Lamborghini is yours. Except worse, it's a customer's car lmao. I get embarrassed driving turo rental cars and I'm just trying to have fun driving and see what I want to get next. We can all agree on the corvette owners 😂 You'd be pissed if your mechanic whipped your car around the block, let alone pretending it's yours to prove to a Stanger

    • @jayring77
      @jayring77 8 місяців тому

      @@MrSeanman30 I think anyone showing up in a fake Lambo that won't back off the fact it's fake deserves whatever walks their way. Owning up to the truth diffuses most situations....unless it's a presidential election 💀

  • @arctictruck10
    @arctictruck10 8 місяців тому +28

    Kia Stinger engineering of starter placement is an example of them not having to be a mechanic.

  • @V8-friendly
    @V8-friendly 8 місяців тому +8

    I am a retired electronics engineer and a mechanic in aerospace by trade. Very proud of my achievements, but not a know-it-all. I feel no need to lecture others. Also good to have a wide knowledge base and plenty of hands-on experience to rely on to form your own opinion. Saved me plenty of money in the past.

  • @driverjamescopeland
    @driverjamescopeland 8 місяців тому +15

    "I'm an aerospace engineer."
    Dude probably makes glue for 3M... not designs or invents it... just makes it. They gave him a white coat to wear on the production line, and he thought it was a PhD.

    • @MrEShive
      @MrEShive 7 місяців тому +3

      LMFAO your comment got me dead bro..
      Dude prolly makes glue for 3m and sniffs it too 🤣🤣🤣

  • @jeffreyoldham55
    @jeffreyoldham55 8 місяців тому +8

    I worked for Goodyear Aerospace, and Doug is 100% correct in his assessment of these individuals. Congratulations on your successful escape, and a hilarious story!

  • @studiolezard
    @studiolezard 8 місяців тому +46

    I hope your aerospace engineer watches this.

    • @romka5967
      @romka5967 8 місяців тому

      Howard from the big bang theory

  • @gedward4335
    @gedward4335 8 місяців тому +50

    He wasn’t difficult because he was an engineer, it’s because he was from NY.

    • @salami99
      @salami99 7 місяців тому +2

      broken world

    • @wydopnthrtl
      @wydopnthrtl 5 місяців тому +1

      I'm an engineer in Ohio. Um.... yeah I have to agree. But there are a few here too that think they know more than they really do.

  • @stephen3164
    @stephen3164 8 місяців тому +28

    Great story! I’m also an aerospace engineer! I met Doug a number of years back when I was shopping for a GT3… hey wait! I didn’t realize you knew 2 heavy set aerospace engineers shopping for a GT3. Wonder if I know him?

    • @pali1H
      @pali1H 8 місяців тому +4

      I see what you did there

  • @estern001
    @estern001 8 місяців тому +224

    When someone starts nitpicking a used car, the correct response is, "You're looking for a new car. They're over there. Bye!"

    • @paulcarmi8130
      @paulcarmi8130 8 місяців тому

      That depends on the dealer, doesnt it? I mean i dont disagree, just throwing it out there

    • @estern001
      @estern001 8 місяців тому

      I've been selling cars for 25 years. This guy was not worth dealing with. If it was just someone trying to devalue the car, the response is, "Yeah, it has a couple scratches and door dings, that's why we priced it like that. If you want a new car, I can show you one."@@paulcarmi8130

    • @marv3914
      @marv3914 8 місяців тому +7

      I had a deal turned down because I was insisting on the mileage when the timing belt was changed. The seller never provided a physical proof. It was a 1100usd audi a3. It's cheap, but am I wrong in insisting on a vital part?

    • @carsonmiller9658
      @carsonmiller9658 8 місяців тому

      yes, you are absolutely in the wrong. it was $1100. @@marv3914

    • @rustler08
      @rustler08 8 місяців тому +16

      Tell me you're broke without telling me.
      There's nothing wrong with having expectations of an expensive used car.

  • @t4iga121
    @t4iga121 8 місяців тому +25

    I think the issue was that this engineer was a narcicist. That's the defining quality here.

    • @hr7834
      @hr7834 6 місяців тому

      😂😂😂

  • @Gemini_0815
    @Gemini_0815 7 місяців тому +1

    I’m an engineer and I’ve been a used car customer recently. The sales guy was great: he realized at some point of the inspection of the car that I’m an automotive engineer (I did not mention this, just doing my usual checks on the used vehicle). We got along great, I bought the car and he thanked me numerous times about how pleasant it was to deal with each other. Probably he had some bad experiences with engineers before…

  • @Mart77
    @Mart77 8 місяців тому +2

    I used to work as service advisor in car dealership. By far the worst customers were the IT engineers. For some reason they thought that all the brand new cars have the same level of quality and everything must be absolutely perfect. No mate, your $20 000 entry level SUV is not the equivalent of $100 000 Porsche Cayenne. No, the interior will not be as quiet as $200 000 Rolls Royce. It is slightly crap and that's why it's cheap.
    One of the IT guys broke off the trunklid trim piece when opening trunk (he forgot to unlock the car first). So he was absolutely convinced that we must cover it with warranty. Nah bro, warranty is for issues that are direct result from manufacturing flaw. The fact that you broke it is not a factory's flaw. So he went on an on with this, called multiple times, sent many emails to me and my manager. Eventually my manager gave up and purchased new trim + paintjob with company's expense to get rid of that guy.

  • @CelicaAutocrosser
    @CelicaAutocrosser 8 місяців тому +6

    If that “aerospace engineer” works at Raytheon, it would explain his attitude. Most of those people think they are high and mighty.

  • @repentnow1720
    @repentnow1720 8 місяців тому +3

    As an Engineer I'd like to officially apologize for that particular individual; as his personality (i.e. - Expert in one area = Expert in ALL areas!) does not represent ALL of us. Some of us? Yes, but (thankfully) not ALL Engineers. : )

  • @fasillimerick7394
    @fasillimerick7394 8 місяців тому +3

    Having an engineering degree, and _being_ an engineer are two very different things. For example, the engineers a Morton/Thiokol told NASA to not launch _Challenger_ and the degrees holding managers overruled them, and 7 astronauts died.

  • @tylershelton7386
    @tylershelton7386 8 місяців тому +3

    Wisdom and intelligence are two very distinct human qualities. It’s rare to have both.

  • @wydopnthrtl
    @wydopnthrtl 5 місяців тому +1

    I have a close friend who was a car salesman. Old farmers w/cow dung on his boots gets out of a very old and extremely beat up truck. No exageration... he asks to see the new top of the line F150 on the lot. Leather seats and all possible options. My friend said ok... but your going to have to clean your boots first. They both go around back and literally wash his boots. Go for a test drive.
    Farmer who is in dirty coveralls pulls out a roll of cash and pays for it outright. Then says the farm needs 5 work trucks and they negotiate the sale of those. A week later the guys wife comes in and buys a new eddie bauer expedition. All 7 cars bought through my friend because he treated the guy w/respect. (Ford dealership in Olney Illinois about 25yrs ago)
    Never... ever..... judge a book by its cover.

  • @GodBeforeMoney
    @GodBeforeMoney 8 місяців тому +19

    My wife’s an Electrical Engineer, and would never do this, but she will beat you to death on price. Best negotiator I’ve seen outside of Ed.

  • @alabama2uz
    @alabama2uz 8 місяців тому +249

    Intelligent people often have the hardest time recognizing their own biases.

    • @jmowiscoproud
      @jmowiscoproud 8 місяців тому +1

      Without a doubt

    • @edw.b856
      @edw.b856 8 місяців тому +4

      Dunning-Kruger effect for the win!

    • @salt-emoji
      @salt-emoji 8 місяців тому

      Idk man, to me that perfectly describes an idiot.

    • @cpt_nordbart
      @cpt_nordbart 8 місяців тому +2

      Who said that? Do you have evidence?
      ;)

    • @jeffreyjones3616
      @jeffreyjones3616 8 місяців тому +11

      Then.... they aren't actually intelligent

  • @davidwier2862
    @davidwier2862 8 місяців тому +2

    I do side work and one day I had an " engineer " . He kept on bird dogging me til the point the job was halfway done and I flipped and said do it yourself no charge for what I've already done. Put my tools up and cleaned them. He started complaining... I told him to call a tow truck. Truck sat at my shop for 3 days before a tow truck came. Sometimes F people that act like that.

  • @CrashBandiii
    @CrashBandiii 8 місяців тому +4

    The conversation would have ended pretty soon after he gave me shit for having to leave by 6. Its been stated and you agreed. Tough shit.
    Mr I'm an aerospace engineer probably hasn't been told that in ages

  • @jaball77
    @jaball77 8 місяців тому +3

    People who crow the loudest about being engineers are 100% NOT engineers. Just like people who crow the loudest about being military were probably never in the military. And ESPECIALLY if they claim to have been Special Forces. They were 100% not in the Special Forces.

  • @dualsportrider3221
    @dualsportrider3221 8 місяців тому +2

    We had an engineer as a customer. Austin Martin made him feel important. 4runner had rusty lugs, he bought his own. I put 5 on each wheel and went to ask him where the new wheel lock key set is. Stupid me. His answer was, I hate wheel lock keys. I guess he couldn't count to 6

  • @agrippa1234
    @agrippa1234 8 місяців тому +2

    I like your Allen Iverson quote referring to practice (coached hoops for many years and loved to show it to kids). Doctors as well have proven to be odd customers (sales experience as well)......

  • @BatCaveOz
    @BatCaveOz 8 місяців тому +39

    Doug is the type of guy that says "I'm like..." when telling a story, when he is actually talking about what he was thinking, rather than what actually happened.

    • @MrSeanman30
      @MrSeanman30 8 місяців тому +1

      Yup lol. After hearing him flex a customer's Lamborghini on a guy who bragged about a kit car being a real Lamborghini was insane.

  • @Mr.E4U
    @Mr.E4U 8 місяців тому +43

    I’m in the jewelry business and can confirm engineers are the worst customers to deal with for these exact reasons. Engineers are a lot like corvette owners.

    • @Orcawhale1
      @Orcawhale1 8 місяців тому +13

      Most of them ARE Corvette owners.

    • @matthewstreit1650
      @matthewstreit1650 8 місяців тому +8

      What if I’m an engineer AND a corvette owner 😂 I must be atrocious

    • @mikeerin5031
      @mikeerin5031 8 місяців тому +6

      I would give your statement more credibility if you didn’t work in an industry that makes all efforts to deceive customers.

    • @jeff95ta83
      @jeff95ta83 8 місяців тому +3

      @@Orcawhale1 So over 51% of engineers own Corvettes? From what I've seen, they like boring commuter vehicles.

    • @Mr.E4U
      @Mr.E4U 8 місяців тому

      @@mikeerin5031 I would give your statement more credibility but you’re clearly not educated on the subject.

  • @wydopnthrtl
    @wydopnthrtl 5 місяців тому +1

    M.E. here for 32yrs.... that guy falls into one of two categories. He's either financially tight (which is my guess because he didn't immediately pay for it) OR he's nothing but a pure academic who likes to research data and never set his hand to reality. Wouldn't surprise me if that was the first time he drove a GT3 or maybe even a Porsche.
    Me... I get just as much joy out of repairing / modifying a sports car as I do driving them.

  • @BoldUlysses
    @BoldUlysses 8 місяців тому +2

    Doug is the best storyteller. Love the videos featuring his stories.

  • @johnhufnagel
    @johnhufnagel 8 місяців тому +5

    I'm going to say... within 53 hours from now, someone will comment that they know and work with this guy and might even name drop the company.
    the world is funny like that.

  • @Bob-qs6wg
    @Bob-qs6wg 8 місяців тому +4

    Some deals just aren't worth the price you have to pay. Good show Doug !!!

  • @billbob4856
    @billbob4856 5 місяців тому +1

    The “I’m an engineer” guys are just as annoying to their coworkers.
    Most engineers don’t go around pulling the “engineer” card left and right. The ones that do though can be some of the most annoying people you’ll ever deal with. They also do it frequently enough that it FEELS like all engineers do it.

  • @Naut1188
    @Naut1188 5 місяців тому +1

    Dude was hiding his character and personality flaws behind his job title.
    Apologies from all the engineers that aren't like this.

  • @stephenlea5765
    @stephenlea5765 8 місяців тому +1

    I’m a mechanical engineer & lifelong hands-on gearhead, and unfortunately I’ve worked with many engineers like this.

  • @ooklamoc4411
    @ooklamoc4411 8 місяців тому +2

    The mountain bike crew I ride with engineer-heavy. Some of them are gearheads and pretty good wrenchs, but the best thing is when they argue. It’s not possible for either of them to be wrong, ever. 😂

    • @MowerModdin
      @MowerModdin 8 місяців тому +1

      as an engineer in training, I can confirm this is a problem that we share

  • @aliassmithandjones9453
    @aliassmithandjones9453 8 місяців тому +3

    when I encounter nitpickers like that I'll say "It is what it is" repeatedly

  • @JohnnyWishbone85
    @JohnnyWishbone85 6 місяців тому +2

    As an engineer, I have no respect for engineers.

  • @OneOut1
    @OneOut1 8 місяців тому +9

    I sold high end cars for many years. When engineers start taking about engineering issues and how my competition's is better I say great. You obviously know more about this car than I do. Let's go sit down and talk about price.

  • @vinnycent007
    @vinnycent007 8 місяців тому +1

    As an Engineer, I even have to dealt with these special cases. It is hilarious to see their reaction. If was dealing with this person, I would been "Ha an Aerospace Engineer eh. You know get your head out of the clouds. You are high on life, but not down to Earth."

  • @Setanta69
    @Setanta69 8 місяців тому +2

    Tabutt is always a great storyteller. I am subscribed to SwitchCars, and it is awesome to watch his podcasts.

  • @dc1674
    @dc1674 6 місяців тому

    It translates to much more than just mechanical things. My father has a Ph. D in Aerospace, had a pretty good career then became a professor of aerospace. He knows everything. What is interesting is that he isnt all that smart, just really focused and really likes airplanes. When it comes to reading people, he is a bit lost. Overall a good guy, but an interesting person to observe.

  • @firesurfer
    @firesurfer 8 місяців тому

    As a carpenter with 40 years on the job, the worst people are the ones that think they're better than you.
    When I was still in high school, I thought I wanted to be a photographer. There was a photography class trip to a pro fashion shoot. We watched the photographer set up and start shooting. There were several people from the advertising agency there that were trying to tell them what they should do. I happened to be in earshot of them near the photographer. He gave me a look in the middle of this and it told me everything I wanted to know about the business. I finished the class with top honors and swore I would never let myself get in the position of being told how to do my job.
    If they are shown they are wrong it can get really ugly or they just walk away.

  • @sutherlacd27
    @sutherlacd27 8 місяців тому

    One of the first things I learned was to seek out input from the people who build what i design and the people who service what i design. Theyve been doing it longer than me and know what works and what doesn't.
    With that said when it comes to my cars i know more than 99.9% of the salesmen out there. I became an engineer because of cars. I have been doing all ny own maintenance and mods since i was 15 years old. Engine swaps, replacing wiring harness, upgrading turbos/superchargers, etc.

  • @Headcase650
    @Headcase650 8 місяців тому +1

    I was a machinist in a shop that made aerospace parts for allied signal, King radio, Bendix etc. We did a lot of prototyping. Some of the engineers were okay but the vast majority of them were as bad or worse than the guy you were dealing with.

    • @TheBrokenLife
      @TheBrokenLife 8 місяців тому +1

      Ehhh... I've run into my share of cantankerous toolmakers in my time who just kinda liked to make things hard too. But, I've learned that you guys are cheap dates. A candy bar dropped off with my print will get pretty much any problem corrected without much trouble. For emergencies, I've been known to make a pizza materialize.
      I've designed some horrible atrocities against machining that were all taken care of with a bag of M&Ms and a quick conversation. 😂

    • @Headcase650
      @Headcase650 8 місяців тому

      @@TheBrokenLife I think it's the symbiotic love-hate relationship. 😃

    • @TheBrokenLife
      @TheBrokenLife 8 місяців тому

      @@Headcase650 I've found it to be more of a cold war to see who would decide cross the DMZ of "decent dude" first. 😅
      At my current job I was asked to get something entirely trivial quoted for a build. I said, "Don't we have a maintenance shop that can do this?", which was met with "Oh... our guy's won't do stuff like that for us." Really..? I walked out into the shop, introduced myself, explained what I'd like to have done, and asked them if they had time to do it or if I needed to send it out, and who I needed to talk to so they accounted for their time on my job. They just about jumped off of their chairs (literally... they were just sitting around) begging me not to send it out and asked me why we never used them. 🤦‍♂ I made up a dirty drawing, filled out a work order, they asked for a few clarifications, I ordered the material, and then I got my parts. Easy peasy.
      I made sure they always got first right of refusal on all of my jobs after that (they did 99% of them) and they also got donuts when I did. If I pooched it, then it was candy and pizza time. 😉 I don't know why some guys make it so hard...

  • @aygwm
    @aygwm 8 місяців тому +1

    I almost became an engineer, and then I realized I’d have to deal with people like that for my whole career and I went into a different field.

  • @anthonydietmeier6524
    @anthonydietmeier6524 5 місяців тому +1

    How do you know if someone is an engineer? Wait thirty seconds, they'll tell you.

  • @S2kTi
    @S2kTi 8 місяців тому +2

    Some car deals just arent worth it.

  • @kennethcohagen3539
    @kennethcohagen3539 7 місяців тому

    I worked at a division of intel’s R&D department, and the engineers I worked with were almost all fixated on the results they wanted, not what they actually got. It’s hard to change that mindset.

  • @althejazzman
    @althejazzman 8 місяців тому +1

    It's such a horrible bit of blackmail when a customer asks you to prove something they know you can't prove. Just take everything at face value and trust the company selling it to you. If you can't trust them, go elsewhere. I guess some people go through life making a nuisance for themselves at every transaction to get a deal.

  • @Roguecooley
    @Roguecooley 8 місяців тому

    When he said that engineers know a lot about one thing and think it works for everything reminds me of the Big Bang Theory when Leonard’s car breaks down. He asks everyone in the car if they know anything about engines they all say yes and then asks if they know how to fix one.

  • @mwaynem
    @mwaynem 8 місяців тому +1

    When I'm selling a vehicle, if the customer starts getting picky about the condition and especially if they are rude. I stopped the negotiation and asked them to leave. I never sell when I have to. Only when I want to. So, I am not in a position where I have to put up with disrespectful behavior.

  • @aland7236
    @aland7236 6 місяців тому +1

    Just so everyone knows, it is okay to fire customers. There's no shame in doing so.

  • @brenyz5013
    @brenyz5013 8 місяців тому +1

    When I sell a car here is how it goes !! If you want it buy it . If you don’t good by !!!

  • @bikkiikun
    @bikkiikun 5 місяців тому

    This was not an engineer, this was a Business Bachelor, working in sales for a firm that produces parts for larger aerospace firms... and probably a firm that was divested/outsourced from their main customer in a restructuring.

  • @99names16
    @99names16 7 місяців тому

    My family does e-commerce sales and one thing I’ve learned is you can always feel when a customer is going to be a problem. Oh and I’ve learned that 9/10 the customer you’re going above and beyond for will come be coming back with “issues”

  • @johnwight6041
    @johnwight6041 8 місяців тому +1

    Doug should have known an engineer from out of town buying a used GT3 an hour and a half before needing to leave wasn’t going to work in time

  • @AceShadowbloodcivic
    @AceShadowbloodcivic 8 місяців тому

    My dad is exactly like this. He’s a mechanical engineer and goes into so much detail about any car and it’s condition and it’s a bit annoying lol. In racing terms, checking conditions of a race car is insanely important to maximize performance.

    • @AlessandroGenTLe
      @AlessandroGenTLe 8 місяців тому +1

      Well, if you're 130kg of a person (like that engineer), believe me best "perfomance improvement" you can do is just lose 60kg...

  • @jeffbrinkerhoff5121
    @jeffbrinkerhoff5121 7 місяців тому

    I dealt with "high-end" clientele in the Palm Beach area and learned to smile, draw the hard line, and to enjoy the gyrations of unruly clients.

  • @GTPoor
    @GTPoor 8 місяців тому +1

    Doug is one of my favorite guests. Love his podcast as well.

  • @blocheadz
    @blocheadz 8 місяців тому +2

    I'm an aerospace engineer and change oil, engines, brakes and my own socks!

    • @TheBrokenLife
      @TheBrokenLife 8 місяців тому +4

      ...you probably also have detailed log books to prove it all.
      "March, 19 2024: Wore one black and one navy blue sock. Will revise housekeeping standard A36.234 to include chromatic analysis in future sock pairings."
      😉

  • @crankypaul8484
    @crankypaul8484 7 місяців тому

    Good video. 1st time channel viewer. I'm a retired electrical tech who's worked with electrical, mechanical, and chemical engineers. "Cheapness" to the point of ridiculousness is a common trait among engineers. I can't help but wonder if cheapness is a driver for engineer bad behavior. An old mechanical engineer boss used to proudly tell me how he and his wife went over the week's sales receipts every Friday night. The guy had 2 kids, then his wife left him. He should've listened to me when I told him that there were better things to do on a Friday night from a wife's perspective.

  • @jhalanilong
    @jhalanilong 8 місяців тому

    The green glows I like way more than I thought I would. Some people might think I’m crazy but I think I’m gonna go for them and miss out on the military blue 4s. I like the Jordan 1 silhouette more and not in the budget to get both with a newborn

  • @trackpackgt877
    @trackpackgt877 8 місяців тому

    Man I love these stories and I love the way he tells them keep them coming

  • @turbo_brian
    @turbo_brian 8 місяців тому

    As someone who works with engineers like this guy often, I can assure you he's like this because he doesn't understand why his colleagues don't respect him more. He's spent his entire career producing sup par work, getting critizised for it, and then getting frustrated as to why the organization didn't proceed with his idea. He's seeking out situations where he can validate himself.
    Just be thankful he didn't have a PHd or he'd be 10x worse.

  • @wesleyweber8488
    @wesleyweber8488 8 місяців тому

    I owned a hardware store for 25 years selling paint the whole time. After I sold it I went to work in a prison. Worst job ever!!! I was working the tool control and was being audited by the state. I had some latex enamel paint. The woman freaked out because it said enamel and was convinced it was oil based and wasn’t allowed on the compound. I told her enamel just means a hard shiny surface that latex means it’s waster based and that I had sold it for over 20 years. She looked mean dead in the face and said “my daddy was a painter and I know more about it than you”. I walked off and never went back. Screw that place and screw those people.

  • @bubbahodge2197
    @bubbahodge2197 8 місяців тому +2

    Doug is a drummer. It all makes sense now 😅

  • @EdA-bz3bu
    @EdA-bz3bu 8 місяців тому

    I work in the HVAC and energy assessment industry and some of the biggest hints that I am told in the first 5 minutes of an intro, to walk away from a deal are, "I am an engineer", "I know or am a lawyer", complaining or wanting you to go over some other contractors good work, demining laborers in general,...
    I had a "nuclear" professor (even worse then an "engineer") fill up an exterior supply to the up stair with cellulose because he "knew that the workers that build the house are idiots and did not insulate that cavity".
    I told him "sorry I can not get him anytime on my calendar."

  • @doorgoo
    @doorgoo 7 місяців тому +1

    I set this to 2x speed and it was like he was speaking at regular pace 😅 then Ed came on and it was like an auctioneer 😂

  • @Louzahsol
    @Louzahsol 8 місяців тому +14

    Engineers make ideas, machinist and mechanics have to make those ideas actually work.

    • @Louzahsol
      @Louzahsol 8 місяців тому +1

      @@drsrsv8884 yeah that’s why the engineers always want ceiling fans exactly in the same spot they tell me to put ceiling ducts.

    • @marklangren3142
      @marklangren3142 8 місяців тому +3

      The best engineers have hand on experience

    • @ryharh7139
      @ryharh7139 8 місяців тому

      An actual engineer with an accredited degree and works in that profession actually has both theory and hands on experience, that’s a stereotype, or if not, one just claims to be an engineer.

    • @marklangren3142
      @marklangren3142 8 місяців тому

      @@ryharh7139 Live in the real world

  • @BuyoutVied
    @BuyoutVied 6 місяців тому +1

    The frequent mention of his status as an engineer reminds me of Margaret Thatcher’s quote: “Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't.”

  • @RobsNeighbor
    @RobsNeighbor 8 місяців тому +2

    We had a customer demand the algorithms from a field engineer it was hilarious!

  • @tomkopp2115
    @tomkopp2115 8 місяців тому

    Doug stories make the day better! Thanks always Doug, have a great day!

  • @Peccs91
    @Peccs91 8 місяців тому +1

    Very common for someone to be very smart on paper and in a particular setting. But to be socially aware of yourself and have common sense is often foreign to these people.

  • @SirOtterman
    @SirOtterman 8 місяців тому +1

    As an engineer, I HATE when other engineers use their titles as some BS credential that somehow makes them an expert in everything. Only thing you are an expert in is critical thinking, logic, & math (and those aren't even guaranteed). We've all seen PLENTY of dumbăss engineering scenarios (especially in cars lol). It's not the flex he thinks it is 😂

  • @BuffBroc
    @BuffBroc 7 місяців тому

    I've heard this story from 2 other people and didn't want to believe it was it true, but I should have known better due to the experience in question. He asked me what I do for a living and I said that I'm an aerospace engineer. It was literally the only time I mentioned my career. I am the one that a prior engagement and was late to the test drive because of work, and despite politely explaining I needed to get going he just kept trying to keep me there for an immediate sale so I reluctantly agreed to the deposit just to get out of there. And yes, my mother died 2 days after the test drive and I let him know so he wouldn't think I was ignoring him. He STILL harassed me like a desperate ex, going so far as to call me THREE times in 30 minutes during my mother's funeral and leaving nasty voicemails. The rest of his story about clutch inspection and 3 levels of inspection is completely fictional.
    Bottom line, there's 2 sides to every story. Be skeptical of the side that's trying to impress you with wild details.
    Signed,
    The Bartender who tricked this guy into letting me drive a Porsche and desperately didn't want him bouncing my deposit check. I guess we're both schmucks.

  • @Horse_In_A_Bookcase
    @Horse_In_A_Bookcase 8 місяців тому +5

    As an engineer who has worked with many other engineers… this is so true.

  • @aschbackenhoernchen9576
    @aschbackenhoernchen9576 7 місяців тому

    A guy came in 30 min before closing on a Saturday with an Audi Q5 and asked for a wheel change.
    We were still full, so I politely declined. After he complained that we HAD TO do it and he’s an ENGINEER at Mercedes Benz (no one in Germany calls it …Benz, it’s just Mercedes…) he bought a way too weak carjack (insisted on the cheapest) and a cheap wrench. I confirmed, that the wrench would fit his lug nuts.
    After a few minutes, the MB engineer came back and was furious, that I’m too stupid to sell him the right tools. The wrench didn’t fit.
    It was a 2in1… all he had to do was rotate the adapter 180° as stated on the packaging 😁

  • @stevenpage8847
    @stevenpage8847 8 місяців тому +1

    I used to have an engineer friend. He reminded me all the time. I would kindly remind him he’s 200k in debt and I earn more with zero debt.

    • @stevenpage8847
      @stevenpage8847 8 місяців тому

      @afreedog not for him. He’d go bankrupt before he ever pays that off. Don’t know or care. Used to be friends.

  • @johnwalters6025
    @johnwalters6025 8 місяців тому

    Engineers are deffinetly the worst to deal with. We had a difficult engineer while I worked at a Nissan dealer he swore black and blue his rear springs required replacement as they would sag when the car was fully loaded. He had no tow hitch either, we were all scratching our heads as to how much he was loading into his car

  • @FishyEngineer420
    @FishyEngineer420 7 місяців тому +2

    Engineering > Sales

    • @Xentronius
      @Xentronius 7 місяців тому

      If you have autism.

  • @randominternetuser2888
    @randominternetuser2888 День тому

    The full saying is "the customer is right in matters of taste."
    Don't let customers roll over you.

  • @bigvision
    @bigvision 8 місяців тому +2

    That dude is what we call a “soul sucker”

  • @gregpeterson6432
    @gregpeterson6432 8 місяців тому +1

    That BMW M coupe at 7:55 😮❤😊