As an Engineer of 30 years I know the exact kind of guy your talking about, these guys never stay at one place to long as they claim they are "no longer challenged by the job" but in reality it's because they realize everyone hates them and is purposely making their life miserable!
Or because their engineering degree basically came in a cornflakes box and they leave before everybody realizes that they are terrible at their job and they'd get fired.
As an electrical engineer, I promise we’re not all like this. One thing I’ve learned in my short 5 years of being an engineer is that there are a lot of people who know a lot more than me, and the best thing I can do is listen.
@@r3beatty what? The point was, I’m also an engineer. If I didn’t say that, how would you know? It brings validity to the rest of the comment. If I said “I’m a doctor and I can tell you not all engineers are like this”, that wouldn’t make any sense.
@@Michael-fi6veAnyone can say they are an engineer. Being presented with a detailed work history, relevant certifications and a degree from an accredited university is the only way to know for sure.
Had a similar issue with an aviation mechanic. I was repairing the wiring on his telehandler as he scolded me about splicing in 6 inches of wire that was different color than factory. He stated "im an aircraft technician, this would never pass inspection!" I took a deep breath and replied "if this machine ever gets airborne, you will have bigger issues to worry about than the color of wires I spliced in" He got the memo after that.
As an exotic car mechanic I just want to say - what’s wrong with you lazy bastard, just find the right color and people won’t laugh at your work in the future.
In their defense, you want that personality type working on your aircraft. Speaking from experience, I was/am incapable of cutting corners, not following technical data, or deviating for any reason. I was afforded an opportunity to work w/Lockheed during my military career as a result, I won't work for them for any amount of $$ because they demonstrated a culture more worried about 'ideology' than stringent/quality practices. You get to see Boeing's mistakes because they are on the civilian side, Lockheed's are shadowed over by the military curtain. I can fly for free anywhere in the world and I don't for a reason.
I worked in the parts/service depth for H-D for 23 years.. the absolute WORST customers were engineers.. in my opinion, if anyone that has to tell you how smart they are, they usually aren't as smart as they claim to be
They're terrible customers in my experience too: always wanting to show off how they understand the math behind your product or service, while still getting the rest of the situation completely wrong but they know more things, allegedly.
@@Sizukun1this has been my experience with engineers across three different industries. They could all tell you how things were SUPPOSED to work on paper, but when it came to physical application they had no idea. I guess I should clarify that this has been my experience with YOUNGER engineers who didn't have more than a few years on the job.
Back when I was a tech at a dealership, I never realized how appreciative I should have been to have a service adviser in-between myself and the customer. The customer service aspect of any job is the hardest part. Doug tells these stories so well, and is so relatable.
Strongly agreed, lots of people just don't realize how customer service can end up being. It's arguably one of the worst parts about any job that requires even the slightest bit of it, and I'm actually pretty great at handling situations and sort of holding the "level", and it's still an absolutely massive headache. Jobs where you don't have to deal with customers is where it's at, like you just said. The best. Daydream it up while working, don't have to listen and comprehend someone else hogwash, and then come up with your own. Just zone out and do the job instead.
Aerospace engineers don't earn enough to buy a GT3 lol. Definitely a manager of sorts or director. Most non-tech engineers never see more than $140k/yr.
@@Tagerrun Not anymore, especially if you live in a large metro area where houses are $750k. A house shouldn’t be more than 3x your annual income yet that’s not even the average transaction price anymore. I know it feels crazy to say especially when you’ve never seen $100k/yr but it’s really not that great. You’re still very much at risk of never retiring. And you certainly aren’t buying ANY GT P cars. A 4S or maybe an old Turbo.
You can also guarantee he’s not a very good aerospace engineer. It reeks of insecurity when someone keeps trying to impress you with their job title. Genuinely smart and successful people don’t need to boost their ego every 2 minutes.
I owned a retail business. Had my share of nightmarish customers. Many times I told my staff selling is like fishing. You gotta know which ones to throw back into the water.
hahahahaha thats a mistake for sure. We can cover for our sales weaknesses by only reeling in big fish and hungry fish. Thats easy. Not so easy is reeling in EVERY fish that comes our way. And maybe not that day but we can get a bullseye target created in the customer's mind which if the money is not in his pocket that day can find a way into his pocket at some later date. I have too often ran across mediocre and unmotivated sales agents and even worse: uncreative sales managers. They are the absolute worse!
@@jamesmedina2062 - You don’t know squat. The wrong customer will cost you money. If you’re a good salesman you see the signs and cut them loose to prey on someone else.
One of the most important things I've learned in the engineering field so far is that the best engineers ask questions so they can listen more than they have to talk and they are able to explain complex concepts and ideas to anyone on a middle school reading level. The guy mentioned in the video is every thing I hate in an engineer lol.
Most people have heard of the phase, "The customer is always right" that's not the complete quote, " The customer is always right, when it comes to taste" is the full quote, Rj in Oz
The sears saying (remember sears and roebuck?) Was "the customer is always right, until the point that the customer reads the fine print, then they will realize they are wrong". Thats close anyway
I'm a systems engineer. Honestly one of the most critical parts to succeed at my job is knowing when I DON'T know something so that I can defer to someone who does. I can say, at least based on personal experience, that this is sadly a rare trait. I know what I know, and I'll push back hard against people who clearly don't know what I know, but the moment you step outside that personal knowledge bubble you better be talking with someone who actually has the appropriate knowledge for that scenario.
As a Toyota technician, I’m not a fan of customer engineers either. Dude brought in his highlander complaining that air was blowing lightly on his face when set to feet. So I print out the literature from TOYOTA that says it’s normal to have some air movement from other vents. He began to tell me how it’s wrong cuz he’s an engineer. I don’t understand how one engineer is right compared to the teams of engineers that built the car, but who am I judge
My dad was a brilliant mechanical engineer. I always played with his ring. He told me it was to remind engineers that they too can make mistakes, and that they have a huge responsibility. The Canadian rings were rumoured to have been made from the iron recovered when the Quebec City bridge collapsed twice under construction killing 88 men. It seems many engineers pick up the cocky part and not the responsibility part.
I had always thought the metal was from the bridge, but the Wikipedia article claims that this is a myth as you stated. - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Ring
I worked at a tim hortons when I was sixteen. The owner would tell us he's an engineer every day we saw him. 1 day it took him 3 hours to figure out how to change rubber seal in the clean water tank on the toilet😂😂😂
@@drsrsv8884 Even if you don't know how to do that, these things either come with instructions or you can find a youtube video on how to do it, it's not that complicated. And yes, it is the own they think it is, it shows that the engineer had no practical skills whatsoever.
@@MyRegardsToTheDodoI love youtube, so many experts or guys who have experience or know how to fix stuff or answer things from stay at home moms to former Delta Force operators 😆.
@@drsrsv8884It should mean that he can quickly figure out how to do a basic repair or at least know where he can find the relevant info. I studied engineering myself. I already had practical experience doing this sort of thing before. My dad was a plumber and started taking me on jobs with him when I was 12 or so in order to gain experience actually inspecting and repairing stuff.
All I saw was the title and a Porsche and my mind immediately screamed "DOUG STORY!!" - Doug car story is best car story. Love what he's putting out there on @switchcars. That collection of trucker stories was huge fun.
You honestly believe this dude tells the best stories? The guy with the cartel truck does in my opinion. This Doug guy flexed a "Customers" Lamborghini because he was trying to shame a man for lying about his not car being a real Lamborghini. Is that just not odd to you?
@@MrSeanman30 His stories make me laugh the most 🤷♂️ and I can appreciate most of the customers he's had to wade through to get where he is today. Plus I hold similar disdain for Corvette owners 😑
@jringhisen seems like he creates many of the problems. Ie going after a dude in a fake Lamborghini that is no customer of his or anything. That would be like taking your parents car to Prom and pretending your dad's Lamborghini is yours. Except worse, it's a customer's car lmao. I get embarrassed driving turo rental cars and I'm just trying to have fun driving and see what I want to get next. We can all agree on the corvette owners 😂 You'd be pissed if your mechanic whipped your car around the block, let alone pretending it's yours to prove to a Stanger
@@MrSeanman30 I think anyone showing up in a fake Lambo that won't back off the fact it's fake deserves whatever walks their way. Owning up to the truth diffuses most situations....unless it's a presidential election 💀
I am a retired electronics engineer and a mechanic in aerospace by trade. Very proud of my achievements, but not a know-it-all. I feel no need to lecture others. Also good to have a wide knowledge base and plenty of hands-on experience to rely on to form your own opinion. Saved me plenty of money in the past.
"I'm an aerospace engineer." Dude probably makes glue for 3M... not designs or invents it... just makes it. They gave him a white coat to wear on the production line, and he thought it was a PhD.
I worked for Goodyear Aerospace, and Doug is 100% correct in his assessment of these individuals. Congratulations on your successful escape, and a hilarious story!
Great story! I’m also an aerospace engineer! I met Doug a number of years back when I was shopping for a GT3… hey wait! I didn’t realize you knew 2 heavy set aerospace engineers shopping for a GT3. Wonder if I know him?
I've been selling cars for 25 years. This guy was not worth dealing with. If it was just someone trying to devalue the car, the response is, "Yeah, it has a couple scratches and door dings, that's why we priced it like that. If you want a new car, I can show you one."@@paulcarmi8130
I had a deal turned down because I was insisting on the mileage when the timing belt was changed. The seller never provided a physical proof. It was a 1100usd audi a3. It's cheap, but am I wrong in insisting on a vital part?
I’m an engineer and I’ve been a used car customer recently. The sales guy was great: he realized at some point of the inspection of the car that I’m an automotive engineer (I did not mention this, just doing my usual checks on the used vehicle). We got along great, I bought the car and he thanked me numerous times about how pleasant it was to deal with each other. Probably he had some bad experiences with engineers before…
I used to work as service advisor in car dealership. By far the worst customers were the IT engineers. For some reason they thought that all the brand new cars have the same level of quality and everything must be absolutely perfect. No mate, your $20 000 entry level SUV is not the equivalent of $100 000 Porsche Cayenne. No, the interior will not be as quiet as $200 000 Rolls Royce. It is slightly crap and that's why it's cheap. One of the IT guys broke off the trunklid trim piece when opening trunk (he forgot to unlock the car first). So he was absolutely convinced that we must cover it with warranty. Nah bro, warranty is for issues that are direct result from manufacturing flaw. The fact that you broke it is not a factory's flaw. So he went on an on with this, called multiple times, sent many emails to me and my manager. Eventually my manager gave up and purchased new trim + paintjob with company's expense to get rid of that guy.
As an Engineer I'd like to officially apologize for that particular individual; as his personality (i.e. - Expert in one area = Expert in ALL areas!) does not represent ALL of us. Some of us? Yes, but (thankfully) not ALL Engineers. : )
Having an engineering degree, and _being_ an engineer are two very different things. For example, the engineers a Morton/Thiokol told NASA to not launch _Challenger_ and the degrees holding managers overruled them, and 7 astronauts died.
I have a close friend who was a car salesman. Old farmers w/cow dung on his boots gets out of a very old and extremely beat up truck. No exageration... he asks to see the new top of the line F150 on the lot. Leather seats and all possible options. My friend said ok... but your going to have to clean your boots first. They both go around back and literally wash his boots. Go for a test drive. Farmer who is in dirty coveralls pulls out a roll of cash and pays for it outright. Then says the farm needs 5 work trucks and they negotiate the sale of those. A week later the guys wife comes in and buys a new eddie bauer expedition. All 7 cars bought through my friend because he treated the guy w/respect. (Ford dealership in Olney Illinois about 25yrs ago) Never... ever..... judge a book by its cover.
I do side work and one day I had an " engineer " . He kept on bird dogging me til the point the job was halfway done and I flipped and said do it yourself no charge for what I've already done. Put my tools up and cleaned them. He started complaining... I told him to call a tow truck. Truck sat at my shop for 3 days before a tow truck came. Sometimes F people that act like that.
The conversation would have ended pretty soon after he gave me shit for having to leave by 6. Its been stated and you agreed. Tough shit. Mr I'm an aerospace engineer probably hasn't been told that in ages
People who crow the loudest about being engineers are 100% NOT engineers. Just like people who crow the loudest about being military were probably never in the military. And ESPECIALLY if they claim to have been Special Forces. They were 100% not in the Special Forces.
We had an engineer as a customer. Austin Martin made him feel important. 4runner had rusty lugs, he bought his own. I put 5 on each wheel and went to ask him where the new wheel lock key set is. Stupid me. His answer was, I hate wheel lock keys. I guess he couldn't count to 6
I like your Allen Iverson quote referring to practice (coached hoops for many years and loved to show it to kids). Doctors as well have proven to be odd customers (sales experience as well)......
Doug is the type of guy that says "I'm like..." when telling a story, when he is actually talking about what he was thinking, rather than what actually happened.
I’m in the jewelry business and can confirm engineers are the worst customers to deal with for these exact reasons. Engineers are a lot like corvette owners.
M.E. here for 32yrs.... that guy falls into one of two categories. He's either financially tight (which is my guess because he didn't immediately pay for it) OR he's nothing but a pure academic who likes to research data and never set his hand to reality. Wouldn't surprise me if that was the first time he drove a GT3 or maybe even a Porsche. Me... I get just as much joy out of repairing / modifying a sports car as I do driving them.
I'm going to say... within 53 hours from now, someone will comment that they know and work with this guy and might even name drop the company. the world is funny like that.
The “I’m an engineer” guys are just as annoying to their coworkers. Most engineers don’t go around pulling the “engineer” card left and right. The ones that do though can be some of the most annoying people you’ll ever deal with. They also do it frequently enough that it FEELS like all engineers do it.
The mountain bike crew I ride with engineer-heavy. Some of them are gearheads and pretty good wrenchs, but the best thing is when they argue. It’s not possible for either of them to be wrong, ever. 😂
I sold high end cars for many years. When engineers start taking about engineering issues and how my competition's is better I say great. You obviously know more about this car than I do. Let's go sit down and talk about price.
As an Engineer, I even have to dealt with these special cases. It is hilarious to see their reaction. If was dealing with this person, I would been "Ha an Aerospace Engineer eh. You know get your head out of the clouds. You are high on life, but not down to Earth."
It translates to much more than just mechanical things. My father has a Ph. D in Aerospace, had a pretty good career then became a professor of aerospace. He knows everything. What is interesting is that he isnt all that smart, just really focused and really likes airplanes. When it comes to reading people, he is a bit lost. Overall a good guy, but an interesting person to observe.
As a carpenter with 40 years on the job, the worst people are the ones that think they're better than you. When I was still in high school, I thought I wanted to be a photographer. There was a photography class trip to a pro fashion shoot. We watched the photographer set up and start shooting. There were several people from the advertising agency there that were trying to tell them what they should do. I happened to be in earshot of them near the photographer. He gave me a look in the middle of this and it told me everything I wanted to know about the business. I finished the class with top honors and swore I would never let myself get in the position of being told how to do my job. If they are shown they are wrong it can get really ugly or they just walk away.
One of the first things I learned was to seek out input from the people who build what i design and the people who service what i design. Theyve been doing it longer than me and know what works and what doesn't. With that said when it comes to my cars i know more than 99.9% of the salesmen out there. I became an engineer because of cars. I have been doing all ny own maintenance and mods since i was 15 years old. Engine swaps, replacing wiring harness, upgrading turbos/superchargers, etc.
I was a machinist in a shop that made aerospace parts for allied signal, King radio, Bendix etc. We did a lot of prototyping. Some of the engineers were okay but the vast majority of them were as bad or worse than the guy you were dealing with.
Ehhh... I've run into my share of cantankerous toolmakers in my time who just kinda liked to make things hard too. But, I've learned that you guys are cheap dates. A candy bar dropped off with my print will get pretty much any problem corrected without much trouble. For emergencies, I've been known to make a pizza materialize. I've designed some horrible atrocities against machining that were all taken care of with a bag of M&Ms and a quick conversation. 😂
@@Headcase650 I've found it to be more of a cold war to see who would decide cross the DMZ of "decent dude" first. 😅 At my current job I was asked to get something entirely trivial quoted for a build. I said, "Don't we have a maintenance shop that can do this?", which was met with "Oh... our guy's won't do stuff like that for us." Really..? I walked out into the shop, introduced myself, explained what I'd like to have done, and asked them if they had time to do it or if I needed to send it out, and who I needed to talk to so they accounted for their time on my job. They just about jumped off of their chairs (literally... they were just sitting around) begging me not to send it out and asked me why we never used them. 🤦♂ I made up a dirty drawing, filled out a work order, they asked for a few clarifications, I ordered the material, and then I got my parts. Easy peasy. I made sure they always got first right of refusal on all of my jobs after that (they did 99% of them) and they also got donuts when I did. If I pooched it, then it was candy and pizza time. 😉 I don't know why some guys make it so hard...
I worked at a division of intel’s R&D department, and the engineers I worked with were almost all fixated on the results they wanted, not what they actually got. It’s hard to change that mindset.
It's such a horrible bit of blackmail when a customer asks you to prove something they know you can't prove. Just take everything at face value and trust the company selling it to you. If you can't trust them, go elsewhere. I guess some people go through life making a nuisance for themselves at every transaction to get a deal.
When he said that engineers know a lot about one thing and think it works for everything reminds me of the Big Bang Theory when Leonard’s car breaks down. He asks everyone in the car if they know anything about engines they all say yes and then asks if they know how to fix one.
When I'm selling a vehicle, if the customer starts getting picky about the condition and especially if they are rude. I stopped the negotiation and asked them to leave. I never sell when I have to. Only when I want to. So, I am not in a position where I have to put up with disrespectful behavior.
This was not an engineer, this was a Business Bachelor, working in sales for a firm that produces parts for larger aerospace firms... and probably a firm that was divested/outsourced from their main customer in a restructuring.
My family does e-commerce sales and one thing I’ve learned is you can always feel when a customer is going to be a problem. Oh and I’ve learned that 9/10 the customer you’re going above and beyond for will come be coming back with “issues”
My dad is exactly like this. He’s a mechanical engineer and goes into so much detail about any car and it’s condition and it’s a bit annoying lol. In racing terms, checking conditions of a race car is insanely important to maximize performance.
...you probably also have detailed log books to prove it all. "March, 19 2024: Wore one black and one navy blue sock. Will revise housekeeping standard A36.234 to include chromatic analysis in future sock pairings." 😉
Good video. 1st time channel viewer. I'm a retired electrical tech who's worked with electrical, mechanical, and chemical engineers. "Cheapness" to the point of ridiculousness is a common trait among engineers. I can't help but wonder if cheapness is a driver for engineer bad behavior. An old mechanical engineer boss used to proudly tell me how he and his wife went over the week's sales receipts every Friday night. The guy had 2 kids, then his wife left him. He should've listened to me when I told him that there were better things to do on a Friday night from a wife's perspective.
The green glows I like way more than I thought I would. Some people might think I’m crazy but I think I’m gonna go for them and miss out on the military blue 4s. I like the Jordan 1 silhouette more and not in the budget to get both with a newborn
As someone who works with engineers like this guy often, I can assure you he's like this because he doesn't understand why his colleagues don't respect him more. He's spent his entire career producing sup par work, getting critizised for it, and then getting frustrated as to why the organization didn't proceed with his idea. He's seeking out situations where he can validate himself. Just be thankful he didn't have a PHd or he'd be 10x worse.
I owned a hardware store for 25 years selling paint the whole time. After I sold it I went to work in a prison. Worst job ever!!! I was working the tool control and was being audited by the state. I had some latex enamel paint. The woman freaked out because it said enamel and was convinced it was oil based and wasn’t allowed on the compound. I told her enamel just means a hard shiny surface that latex means it’s waster based and that I had sold it for over 20 years. She looked mean dead in the face and said “my daddy was a painter and I know more about it than you”. I walked off and never went back. Screw that place and screw those people.
I work in the HVAC and energy assessment industry and some of the biggest hints that I am told in the first 5 minutes of an intro, to walk away from a deal are, "I am an engineer", "I know or am a lawyer", complaining or wanting you to go over some other contractors good work, demining laborers in general,... I had a "nuclear" professor (even worse then an "engineer") fill up an exterior supply to the up stair with cellulose because he "knew that the workers that build the house are idiots and did not insulate that cavity". I told him "sorry I can not get him anytime on my calendar."
An actual engineer with an accredited degree and works in that profession actually has both theory and hands on experience, that’s a stereotype, or if not, one just claims to be an engineer.
The frequent mention of his status as an engineer reminds me of Margaret Thatcher’s quote: “Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't.”
Very common for someone to be very smart on paper and in a particular setting. But to be socially aware of yourself and have common sense is often foreign to these people.
As an engineer, I HATE when other engineers use their titles as some BS credential that somehow makes them an expert in everything. Only thing you are an expert in is critical thinking, logic, & math (and those aren't even guaranteed). We've all seen PLENTY of dumbăss engineering scenarios (especially in cars lol). It's not the flex he thinks it is 😂
I've heard this story from 2 other people and didn't want to believe it was it true, but I should have known better due to the experience in question. He asked me what I do for a living and I said that I'm an aerospace engineer. It was literally the only time I mentioned my career. I am the one that a prior engagement and was late to the test drive because of work, and despite politely explaining I needed to get going he just kept trying to keep me there for an immediate sale so I reluctantly agreed to the deposit just to get out of there. And yes, my mother died 2 days after the test drive and I let him know so he wouldn't think I was ignoring him. He STILL harassed me like a desperate ex, going so far as to call me THREE times in 30 minutes during my mother's funeral and leaving nasty voicemails. The rest of his story about clutch inspection and 3 levels of inspection is completely fictional. Bottom line, there's 2 sides to every story. Be skeptical of the side that's trying to impress you with wild details. Signed, The Bartender who tricked this guy into letting me drive a Porsche and desperately didn't want him bouncing my deposit check. I guess we're both schmucks.
A guy came in 30 min before closing on a Saturday with an Audi Q5 and asked for a wheel change. We were still full, so I politely declined. After he complained that we HAD TO do it and he’s an ENGINEER at Mercedes Benz (no one in Germany calls it …Benz, it’s just Mercedes…) he bought a way too weak carjack (insisted on the cheapest) and a cheap wrench. I confirmed, that the wrench would fit his lug nuts. After a few minutes, the MB engineer came back and was furious, that I’m too stupid to sell him the right tools. The wrench didn’t fit. It was a 2in1… all he had to do was rotate the adapter 180° as stated on the packaging 😁
Engineers are deffinetly the worst to deal with. We had a difficult engineer while I worked at a Nissan dealer he swore black and blue his rear springs required replacement as they would sag when the car was fully loaded. He had no tow hitch either, we were all scratching our heads as to how much he was loading into his car
I’m in sales. When someone is bragging about their job, I tell them “I used to work at Pizza Hut”.
It a good way to end a conversation.
thats funny cause I used to work at Pizza HUt too.
I just keep bragging right through humble comments like that 😊
this is gold!
I used to work at Pizza Hut
As an Engineer of 30 years I know the exact kind of guy your talking about, these guys never stay at one place to long as they claim they are "no longer challenged by the job" but in reality it's because they realize everyone hates them and is purposely making their life miserable!
Or because their engineering degree basically came in a cornflakes box and they leave before everybody realizes that they are terrible at their job and they'd get fired.
*you could have said 'engineer' but had to add 30 years 😂😂😂
@@cspl6134He just wanted to clarify that he's really old and that you probably have to speak a bit louder when talking to him.
Oh, you mean losers who take it easy and who are made look bad by people who actually perform?
that was the corniest and most cliche joke ive ever read. are you a cartoon character? @afreedog
As an electrical engineer, I promise we’re not all like this. One thing I’ve learned in my short 5 years of being an engineer is that there are a lot of people who know a lot more than me, and the best thing I can do is listen.
And yet you started your comment with "As an electrical engineer". i hope that was an attempt at irony.
@@r3beatty what? The point was, I’m also an engineer. If I didn’t say that, how would you know? It brings validity to the rest of the comment. If I said “I’m a doctor and I can tell you not all engineers are like this”, that wouldn’t make any sense.
How do you know someone is an engineer? They’ll tell you.
@@Michael-fi6ve I worked hard for that degree 😂
@@Michael-fi6veAnyone can say they are an engineer. Being presented with a detailed work history, relevant certifications and a degree from an accredited university is the only way to know for sure.
Had a similar issue with an aviation mechanic. I was repairing the wiring on his telehandler as he scolded me about splicing in 6 inches of wire that was different color than factory. He stated "im an aircraft technician, this would never pass inspection!" I took a deep breath and replied "if this machine ever gets airborne, you will have bigger issues to worry about than the color of wires I spliced in" He got the memo after that.
As an exotic car mechanic I just want to say - what’s wrong with you lazy bastard, just find the right color and people won’t laugh at your work in the future.
In their defense, you want that personality type working on your aircraft. Speaking from experience, I was/am incapable of cutting corners, not following technical data, or deviating for any reason. I was afforded an opportunity to work w/Lockheed during my military career as a result, I won't work for them for any amount of $$ because they demonstrated a culture more worried about 'ideology' than stringent/quality practices. You get to see Boeing's mistakes because they are on the civilian side, Lockheed's are shadowed over by the military curtain. I can fly for free anywhere in the world and I don't for a reason.
I worked in the parts/service depth for H-D for 23 years.. the absolute WORST customers were engineers.. in my opinion, if anyone that has to tell you how smart they are, they usually aren't as smart as they claim to be
They're terrible customers in my experience too: always wanting to show off how they understand the math behind your product or service, while still getting the rest of the situation completely wrong but they know more things, allegedly.
@@Sizukun1this has been my experience with engineers across three different industries. They could all tell you how things were SUPPOSED to work on paper, but when it came to physical application they had no idea. I guess I should clarify that this has been my experience with YOUNGER engineers who didn't have more than a few years on the job.
This is pretty universally true of anyone who feels a need to quote their resume to you, no matter their profession.
Why the tf was an engineer buying a Harley though? Lol
The problem is not engineers, it's the ones that have to tell you they're an engineer or how smart they are. 😂
Back when I was a tech at a dealership, I never realized how appreciative I should have been to have a service adviser in-between myself and the customer. The customer service aspect of any job is the hardest part. Doug tells these stories so well, and is so relatable.
Strongly agreed, lots of people just don't realize how customer service can end up being. It's arguably one of the worst parts about any job that requires even the slightest bit of it, and I'm actually pretty great at handling situations and sort of holding the "level", and it's still an absolutely massive headache. Jobs where you don't have to deal with customers is where it's at, like you just said. The best. Daydream it up while working, don't have to listen and comprehend someone else hogwash, and then come up with your own. Just zone out and do the job instead.
That wasn't an engineer. That was a project manager with an aerospace engineering degree.
My thoughts exactly. The three options thing is a dead give away, this guy is a PM.
Aerospace engineers don't earn enough to buy a GT3 lol. Definitely a manager of sorts or director. Most non-tech engineers never see more than $140k/yr.
@@garythecyclingnerd6219that’s still a shit load of money lol
@@Tagerrun Not anymore, especially if you live in a large metro area where houses are $750k. A house shouldn’t be more than 3x your annual income yet that’s not even the average transaction price anymore. I know it feels crazy to say especially when you’ve never seen $100k/yr but it’s really not that great. You’re still very much at risk of never retiring.
And you certainly aren’t buying ANY GT P cars. A 4S or maybe an old Turbo.
Be shocked if he had the degree, he's managing engineers, therefore he must be smarter than the engineers!
You can also guarantee he’s not a very good aerospace engineer. It reeks of insecurity when someone keeps trying to impress you with their job title. Genuinely smart and successful people don’t need to boost their ego every 2 minutes.
I'm a NOTARY! I know everything. But I'm not a judge.
Maybe they work for the lowest bidder of the space part of aerospace
he only being a notary because it was relevant@@MrSeanman30
@@すどにむahahahahahahahah that was creative
i bet he works at boeing.
I owned a retail business. Had my share of nightmarish customers. Many times I told my staff selling is like fishing. You gotta know which ones to throw back into the water.
hahahahaha thats a mistake for sure. We can cover for our sales weaknesses by only reeling in big fish and hungry fish. Thats easy. Not so easy is reeling in EVERY fish that comes our way. And maybe not that day but we can get a bullseye target created in the customer's mind which if the money is not in his pocket that day can find a way into his pocket at some later date. I have too often ran across mediocre and unmotivated sales agents and even worse: uncreative sales managers. They are the absolute worse!
@@jamesmedina2062 - You don’t know squat. The wrong customer will cost you money. If you’re a good salesman you see the signs and cut them loose to prey on someone else.
One of the most important things I've learned in the engineering field so far is that the best engineers ask questions so they can listen more than they have to talk and they are able to explain complex concepts and ideas to anyone on a middle school reading level. The guy mentioned in the video is every thing I hate in an engineer lol.
Most people have heard of the phase,
"The customer is always right" that's not the complete quote,
" The customer is always right, when it comes to taste" is the full quote, Rj in Oz
Lol no. Ferrari won't sell you a bedazzeled sf90 coz of how distasteful it is.
@@RadialSeeker113
No, but if no one bought a certain model of Ferrari, they would stop making it.
The sears saying (remember sears and roebuck?) Was "the customer is always right, until the point that the customer reads the fine print, then they will realize they are wrong". Thats close anyway
We can see your name. Why the signature line?
@@joshuagibson2520 because he's a ho----mo
I'm a systems engineer. Honestly one of the most critical parts to succeed at my job is knowing when I DON'T know something so that I can defer to someone who does. I can say, at least based on personal experience, that this is sadly a rare trait. I know what I know, and I'll push back hard against people who clearly don't know what I know, but the moment you step outside that personal knowledge bubble you better be talking with someone who actually has the appropriate knowledge for that scenario.
When Reddit Mods go to a Porsche dealership
Lmao gold comment
A drummer that skips or misses rehearsals is extremely common 😂
Underrated comment.
Especially if they've spontaneously combusted.
Every time I’ve seen it, it’s because that drummer is in like 7 bands and can’t remember WHICH band is playing what day😂
LOL... I'm thinking yeah right you gave your word. Customer sitting there and making a profit vs banging on drums and spending currency.
As a Toyota technician, I’m not a fan of customer engineers either.
Dude brought in his highlander complaining that air was blowing lightly on his face when set to feet. So I print out the literature from TOYOTA that says it’s normal to have some air movement from other vents. He began to tell me how it’s wrong cuz he’s an engineer. I don’t understand how one engineer is right compared to the teams of engineers that built the car, but who am I judge
My dad was a brilliant mechanical engineer. I always played with his ring. He told me it was to remind engineers that they too can make mistakes, and that they have a huge responsibility. The Canadian rings were rumoured to have been made from the iron recovered when the Quebec City bridge collapsed twice under construction killing 88 men. It seems many engineers pick up the cocky part and not the responsibility part.
I had always thought the metal was from the bridge, but the Wikipedia article claims that this is a myth as you stated. - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Ring
As a structural ironworker; this should be true
I hope he sees this
I worked at a tim hortons when I was sixteen. The owner would tell us he's an engineer every day we saw him. 1 day it took him 3 hours to figure out how to change rubber seal in the clean water tank on the toilet😂😂😂
@@drsrsv8884 Even if you don't know how to do that, these things either come with instructions or you can find a youtube video on how to do it, it's not that complicated. And yes, it is the own they think it is, it shows that the engineer had no practical skills whatsoever.
@@MyRegardsToTheDodoI love youtube, so many experts or guys who have experience or know how to fix stuff or answer things from stay at home moms to former Delta Force operators 😆.
@@drsrsv8884It should mean that he can quickly figure out how to do a basic repair or at least know where he can find the relevant info. I studied engineering myself. I already had practical experience doing this sort of thing before. My dad was a plumber and started taking me on jobs with him when I was 12 or so in order to gain experience actually inspecting and repairing stuff.
All I saw was the title and a Porsche and my mind immediately screamed "DOUG STORY!!" - Doug car story is best car story. Love what he's putting out there on @switchcars. That collection of trucker stories was huge fun.
You honestly believe this dude tells the best stories? The guy with the cartel truck does in my opinion. This Doug guy flexed a "Customers" Lamborghini because he was trying to shame a man for lying about his not car being a real Lamborghini. Is that just not odd to you?
@@MrSeanman30 His stories make me laugh the most 🤷♂️ and I can appreciate most of the customers he's had to wade through to get where he is today. Plus I hold similar disdain for Corvette owners 😑
@jringhisen seems like he creates many of the problems. Ie going after a dude in a fake Lamborghini that is no customer of his or anything. That would be like taking your parents car to Prom and pretending your dad's Lamborghini is yours. Except worse, it's a customer's car lmao. I get embarrassed driving turo rental cars and I'm just trying to have fun driving and see what I want to get next. We can all agree on the corvette owners 😂 You'd be pissed if your mechanic whipped your car around the block, let alone pretending it's yours to prove to a Stanger
@@MrSeanman30 I think anyone showing up in a fake Lambo that won't back off the fact it's fake deserves whatever walks their way. Owning up to the truth diffuses most situations....unless it's a presidential election 💀
Kia Stinger engineering of starter placement is an example of them not having to be a mechanic.
I am a retired electronics engineer and a mechanic in aerospace by trade. Very proud of my achievements, but not a know-it-all. I feel no need to lecture others. Also good to have a wide knowledge base and plenty of hands-on experience to rely on to form your own opinion. Saved me plenty of money in the past.
"I'm an aerospace engineer."
Dude probably makes glue for 3M... not designs or invents it... just makes it. They gave him a white coat to wear on the production line, and he thought it was a PhD.
LMFAO your comment got me dead bro..
Dude prolly makes glue for 3m and sniffs it too 🤣🤣🤣
I worked for Goodyear Aerospace, and Doug is 100% correct in his assessment of these individuals. Congratulations on your successful escape, and a hilarious story!
I hope your aerospace engineer watches this.
Howard from the big bang theory
He wasn’t difficult because he was an engineer, it’s because he was from NY.
broken world
I'm an engineer in Ohio. Um.... yeah I have to agree. But there are a few here too that think they know more than they really do.
Great story! I’m also an aerospace engineer! I met Doug a number of years back when I was shopping for a GT3… hey wait! I didn’t realize you knew 2 heavy set aerospace engineers shopping for a GT3. Wonder if I know him?
I see what you did there
When someone starts nitpicking a used car, the correct response is, "You're looking for a new car. They're over there. Bye!"
That depends on the dealer, doesnt it? I mean i dont disagree, just throwing it out there
I've been selling cars for 25 years. This guy was not worth dealing with. If it was just someone trying to devalue the car, the response is, "Yeah, it has a couple scratches and door dings, that's why we priced it like that. If you want a new car, I can show you one."@@paulcarmi8130
I had a deal turned down because I was insisting on the mileage when the timing belt was changed. The seller never provided a physical proof. It was a 1100usd audi a3. It's cheap, but am I wrong in insisting on a vital part?
yes, you are absolutely in the wrong. it was $1100. @@marv3914
Tell me you're broke without telling me.
There's nothing wrong with having expectations of an expensive used car.
I think the issue was that this engineer was a narcicist. That's the defining quality here.
😂😂😂
I’m an engineer and I’ve been a used car customer recently. The sales guy was great: he realized at some point of the inspection of the car that I’m an automotive engineer (I did not mention this, just doing my usual checks on the used vehicle). We got along great, I bought the car and he thanked me numerous times about how pleasant it was to deal with each other. Probably he had some bad experiences with engineers before…
I used to work as service advisor in car dealership. By far the worst customers were the IT engineers. For some reason they thought that all the brand new cars have the same level of quality and everything must be absolutely perfect. No mate, your $20 000 entry level SUV is not the equivalent of $100 000 Porsche Cayenne. No, the interior will not be as quiet as $200 000 Rolls Royce. It is slightly crap and that's why it's cheap.
One of the IT guys broke off the trunklid trim piece when opening trunk (he forgot to unlock the car first). So he was absolutely convinced that we must cover it with warranty. Nah bro, warranty is for issues that are direct result from manufacturing flaw. The fact that you broke it is not a factory's flaw. So he went on an on with this, called multiple times, sent many emails to me and my manager. Eventually my manager gave up and purchased new trim + paintjob with company's expense to get rid of that guy.
If that “aerospace engineer” works at Raytheon, it would explain his attitude. Most of those people think they are high and mighty.
As an Engineer I'd like to officially apologize for that particular individual; as his personality (i.e. - Expert in one area = Expert in ALL areas!) does not represent ALL of us. Some of us? Yes, but (thankfully) not ALL Engineers. : )
Having an engineering degree, and _being_ an engineer are two very different things. For example, the engineers a Morton/Thiokol told NASA to not launch _Challenger_ and the degrees holding managers overruled them, and 7 astronauts died.
Wisdom and intelligence are two very distinct human qualities. It’s rare to have both.
I have a close friend who was a car salesman. Old farmers w/cow dung on his boots gets out of a very old and extremely beat up truck. No exageration... he asks to see the new top of the line F150 on the lot. Leather seats and all possible options. My friend said ok... but your going to have to clean your boots first. They both go around back and literally wash his boots. Go for a test drive.
Farmer who is in dirty coveralls pulls out a roll of cash and pays for it outright. Then says the farm needs 5 work trucks and they negotiate the sale of those. A week later the guys wife comes in and buys a new eddie bauer expedition. All 7 cars bought through my friend because he treated the guy w/respect. (Ford dealership in Olney Illinois about 25yrs ago)
Never... ever..... judge a book by its cover.
My wife’s an Electrical Engineer, and would never do this, but she will beat you to death on price. Best negotiator I’ve seen outside of Ed.
Intelligent people often have the hardest time recognizing their own biases.
Without a doubt
Dunning-Kruger effect for the win!
Idk man, to me that perfectly describes an idiot.
Who said that? Do you have evidence?
;)
Then.... they aren't actually intelligent
I do side work and one day I had an " engineer " . He kept on bird dogging me til the point the job was halfway done and I flipped and said do it yourself no charge for what I've already done. Put my tools up and cleaned them. He started complaining... I told him to call a tow truck. Truck sat at my shop for 3 days before a tow truck came. Sometimes F people that act like that.
The conversation would have ended pretty soon after he gave me shit for having to leave by 6. Its been stated and you agreed. Tough shit.
Mr I'm an aerospace engineer probably hasn't been told that in ages
People who crow the loudest about being engineers are 100% NOT engineers. Just like people who crow the loudest about being military were probably never in the military. And ESPECIALLY if they claim to have been Special Forces. They were 100% not in the Special Forces.
We had an engineer as a customer. Austin Martin made him feel important. 4runner had rusty lugs, he bought his own. I put 5 on each wheel and went to ask him where the new wheel lock key set is. Stupid me. His answer was, I hate wheel lock keys. I guess he couldn't count to 6
I like your Allen Iverson quote referring to practice (coached hoops for many years and loved to show it to kids). Doctors as well have proven to be odd customers (sales experience as well)......
Doug is the type of guy that says "I'm like..." when telling a story, when he is actually talking about what he was thinking, rather than what actually happened.
Yup lol. After hearing him flex a customer's Lamborghini on a guy who bragged about a kit car being a real Lamborghini was insane.
I’m in the jewelry business and can confirm engineers are the worst customers to deal with for these exact reasons. Engineers are a lot like corvette owners.
Most of them ARE Corvette owners.
What if I’m an engineer AND a corvette owner 😂 I must be atrocious
I would give your statement more credibility if you didn’t work in an industry that makes all efforts to deceive customers.
@@Orcawhale1 So over 51% of engineers own Corvettes? From what I've seen, they like boring commuter vehicles.
@@mikeerin5031 I would give your statement more credibility but you’re clearly not educated on the subject.
M.E. here for 32yrs.... that guy falls into one of two categories. He's either financially tight (which is my guess because he didn't immediately pay for it) OR he's nothing but a pure academic who likes to research data and never set his hand to reality. Wouldn't surprise me if that was the first time he drove a GT3 or maybe even a Porsche.
Me... I get just as much joy out of repairing / modifying a sports car as I do driving them.
Doug is the best storyteller. Love the videos featuring his stories.
I'm going to say... within 53 hours from now, someone will comment that they know and work with this guy and might even name drop the company.
the world is funny like that.
Some deals just aren't worth the price you have to pay. Good show Doug !!!
The “I’m an engineer” guys are just as annoying to their coworkers.
Most engineers don’t go around pulling the “engineer” card left and right. The ones that do though can be some of the most annoying people you’ll ever deal with. They also do it frequently enough that it FEELS like all engineers do it.
Dude was hiding his character and personality flaws behind his job title.
Apologies from all the engineers that aren't like this.
I’m a mechanical engineer & lifelong hands-on gearhead, and unfortunately I’ve worked with many engineers like this.
The mountain bike crew I ride with engineer-heavy. Some of them are gearheads and pretty good wrenchs, but the best thing is when they argue. It’s not possible for either of them to be wrong, ever. 😂
as an engineer in training, I can confirm this is a problem that we share
when I encounter nitpickers like that I'll say "It is what it is" repeatedly
As an engineer, I have no respect for engineers.
Mutual.
I sold high end cars for many years. When engineers start taking about engineering issues and how my competition's is better I say great. You obviously know more about this car than I do. Let's go sit down and talk about price.
As an Engineer, I even have to dealt with these special cases. It is hilarious to see their reaction. If was dealing with this person, I would been "Ha an Aerospace Engineer eh. You know get your head out of the clouds. You are high on life, but not down to Earth."
Tabutt is always a great storyteller. I am subscribed to SwitchCars, and it is awesome to watch his podcasts.
It translates to much more than just mechanical things. My father has a Ph. D in Aerospace, had a pretty good career then became a professor of aerospace. He knows everything. What is interesting is that he isnt all that smart, just really focused and really likes airplanes. When it comes to reading people, he is a bit lost. Overall a good guy, but an interesting person to observe.
As a carpenter with 40 years on the job, the worst people are the ones that think they're better than you.
When I was still in high school, I thought I wanted to be a photographer. There was a photography class trip to a pro fashion shoot. We watched the photographer set up and start shooting. There were several people from the advertising agency there that were trying to tell them what they should do. I happened to be in earshot of them near the photographer. He gave me a look in the middle of this and it told me everything I wanted to know about the business. I finished the class with top honors and swore I would never let myself get in the position of being told how to do my job.
If they are shown they are wrong it can get really ugly or they just walk away.
One of the first things I learned was to seek out input from the people who build what i design and the people who service what i design. Theyve been doing it longer than me and know what works and what doesn't.
With that said when it comes to my cars i know more than 99.9% of the salesmen out there. I became an engineer because of cars. I have been doing all ny own maintenance and mods since i was 15 years old. Engine swaps, replacing wiring harness, upgrading turbos/superchargers, etc.
I was a machinist in a shop that made aerospace parts for allied signal, King radio, Bendix etc. We did a lot of prototyping. Some of the engineers were okay but the vast majority of them were as bad or worse than the guy you were dealing with.
Ehhh... I've run into my share of cantankerous toolmakers in my time who just kinda liked to make things hard too. But, I've learned that you guys are cheap dates. A candy bar dropped off with my print will get pretty much any problem corrected without much trouble. For emergencies, I've been known to make a pizza materialize.
I've designed some horrible atrocities against machining that were all taken care of with a bag of M&Ms and a quick conversation. 😂
@@TheBrokenLife I think it's the symbiotic love-hate relationship. 😃
@@Headcase650 I've found it to be more of a cold war to see who would decide cross the DMZ of "decent dude" first. 😅
At my current job I was asked to get something entirely trivial quoted for a build. I said, "Don't we have a maintenance shop that can do this?", which was met with "Oh... our guy's won't do stuff like that for us." Really..? I walked out into the shop, introduced myself, explained what I'd like to have done, and asked them if they had time to do it or if I needed to send it out, and who I needed to talk to so they accounted for their time on my job. They just about jumped off of their chairs (literally... they were just sitting around) begging me not to send it out and asked me why we never used them. 🤦♂ I made up a dirty drawing, filled out a work order, they asked for a few clarifications, I ordered the material, and then I got my parts. Easy peasy.
I made sure they always got first right of refusal on all of my jobs after that (they did 99% of them) and they also got donuts when I did. If I pooched it, then it was candy and pizza time. 😉 I don't know why some guys make it so hard...
I almost became an engineer, and then I realized I’d have to deal with people like that for my whole career and I went into a different field.
How do you know if someone is an engineer? Wait thirty seconds, they'll tell you.
Some car deals just arent worth it.
I worked at a division of intel’s R&D department, and the engineers I worked with were almost all fixated on the results they wanted, not what they actually got. It’s hard to change that mindset.
It's such a horrible bit of blackmail when a customer asks you to prove something they know you can't prove. Just take everything at face value and trust the company selling it to you. If you can't trust them, go elsewhere. I guess some people go through life making a nuisance for themselves at every transaction to get a deal.
When he said that engineers know a lot about one thing and think it works for everything reminds me of the Big Bang Theory when Leonard’s car breaks down. He asks everyone in the car if they know anything about engines they all say yes and then asks if they know how to fix one.
When I'm selling a vehicle, if the customer starts getting picky about the condition and especially if they are rude. I stopped the negotiation and asked them to leave. I never sell when I have to. Only when I want to. So, I am not in a position where I have to put up with disrespectful behavior.
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Just so everyone knows, it is okay to fire customers. There's no shame in doing so.
When I sell a car here is how it goes !! If you want it buy it . If you don’t good by !!!
This was not an engineer, this was a Business Bachelor, working in sales for a firm that produces parts for larger aerospace firms... and probably a firm that was divested/outsourced from their main customer in a restructuring.
My family does e-commerce sales and one thing I’ve learned is you can always feel when a customer is going to be a problem. Oh and I’ve learned that 9/10 the customer you’re going above and beyond for will come be coming back with “issues”
Doug should have known an engineer from out of town buying a used GT3 an hour and a half before needing to leave wasn’t going to work in time
My dad is exactly like this. He’s a mechanical engineer and goes into so much detail about any car and it’s condition and it’s a bit annoying lol. In racing terms, checking conditions of a race car is insanely important to maximize performance.
Well, if you're 130kg of a person (like that engineer), believe me best "perfomance improvement" you can do is just lose 60kg...
I dealt with "high-end" clientele in the Palm Beach area and learned to smile, draw the hard line, and to enjoy the gyrations of unruly clients.
Doug is one of my favorite guests. Love his podcast as well.
I'm an aerospace engineer and change oil, engines, brakes and my own socks!
...you probably also have detailed log books to prove it all.
"March, 19 2024: Wore one black and one navy blue sock. Will revise housekeeping standard A36.234 to include chromatic analysis in future sock pairings."
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Good video. 1st time channel viewer. I'm a retired electrical tech who's worked with electrical, mechanical, and chemical engineers. "Cheapness" to the point of ridiculousness is a common trait among engineers. I can't help but wonder if cheapness is a driver for engineer bad behavior. An old mechanical engineer boss used to proudly tell me how he and his wife went over the week's sales receipts every Friday night. The guy had 2 kids, then his wife left him. He should've listened to me when I told him that there were better things to do on a Friday night from a wife's perspective.
The green glows I like way more than I thought I would. Some people might think I’m crazy but I think I’m gonna go for them and miss out on the military blue 4s. I like the Jordan 1 silhouette more and not in the budget to get both with a newborn
Man I love these stories and I love the way he tells them keep them coming
As someone who works with engineers like this guy often, I can assure you he's like this because he doesn't understand why his colleagues don't respect him more. He's spent his entire career producing sup par work, getting critizised for it, and then getting frustrated as to why the organization didn't proceed with his idea. He's seeking out situations where he can validate himself.
Just be thankful he didn't have a PHd or he'd be 10x worse.
I owned a hardware store for 25 years selling paint the whole time. After I sold it I went to work in a prison. Worst job ever!!! I was working the tool control and was being audited by the state. I had some latex enamel paint. The woman freaked out because it said enamel and was convinced it was oil based and wasn’t allowed on the compound. I told her enamel just means a hard shiny surface that latex means it’s waster based and that I had sold it for over 20 years. She looked mean dead in the face and said “my daddy was a painter and I know more about it than you”. I walked off and never went back. Screw that place and screw those people.
Doug is a drummer. It all makes sense now 😅
I work in the HVAC and energy assessment industry and some of the biggest hints that I am told in the first 5 minutes of an intro, to walk away from a deal are, "I am an engineer", "I know or am a lawyer", complaining or wanting you to go over some other contractors good work, demining laborers in general,...
I had a "nuclear" professor (even worse then an "engineer") fill up an exterior supply to the up stair with cellulose because he "knew that the workers that build the house are idiots and did not insulate that cavity".
I told him "sorry I can not get him anytime on my calendar."
I set this to 2x speed and it was like he was speaking at regular pace 😅 then Ed came on and it was like an auctioneer 😂
Engineers make ideas, machinist and mechanics have to make those ideas actually work.
@@drsrsv8884 yeah that’s why the engineers always want ceiling fans exactly in the same spot they tell me to put ceiling ducts.
The best engineers have hand on experience
An actual engineer with an accredited degree and works in that profession actually has both theory and hands on experience, that’s a stereotype, or if not, one just claims to be an engineer.
@@ryharh7139 Live in the real world
The frequent mention of his status as an engineer reminds me of Margaret Thatcher’s quote: “Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't.”
We had a customer demand the algorithms from a field engineer it was hilarious!
Doug stories make the day better! Thanks always Doug, have a great day!
Very common for someone to be very smart on paper and in a particular setting. But to be socially aware of yourself and have common sense is often foreign to these people.
As an engineer, I HATE when other engineers use their titles as some BS credential that somehow makes them an expert in everything. Only thing you are an expert in is critical thinking, logic, & math (and those aren't even guaranteed). We've all seen PLENTY of dumbăss engineering scenarios (especially in cars lol). It's not the flex he thinks it is 😂
I've heard this story from 2 other people and didn't want to believe it was it true, but I should have known better due to the experience in question. He asked me what I do for a living and I said that I'm an aerospace engineer. It was literally the only time I mentioned my career. I am the one that a prior engagement and was late to the test drive because of work, and despite politely explaining I needed to get going he just kept trying to keep me there for an immediate sale so I reluctantly agreed to the deposit just to get out of there. And yes, my mother died 2 days after the test drive and I let him know so he wouldn't think I was ignoring him. He STILL harassed me like a desperate ex, going so far as to call me THREE times in 30 minutes during my mother's funeral and leaving nasty voicemails. The rest of his story about clutch inspection and 3 levels of inspection is completely fictional.
Bottom line, there's 2 sides to every story. Be skeptical of the side that's trying to impress you with wild details.
Signed,
The Bartender who tricked this guy into letting me drive a Porsche and desperately didn't want him bouncing my deposit check. I guess we're both schmucks.
As an engineer who has worked with many other engineers… this is so true.
A guy came in 30 min before closing on a Saturday with an Audi Q5 and asked for a wheel change.
We were still full, so I politely declined. After he complained that we HAD TO do it and he’s an ENGINEER at Mercedes Benz (no one in Germany calls it …Benz, it’s just Mercedes…) he bought a way too weak carjack (insisted on the cheapest) and a cheap wrench. I confirmed, that the wrench would fit his lug nuts.
After a few minutes, the MB engineer came back and was furious, that I’m too stupid to sell him the right tools. The wrench didn’t fit.
It was a 2in1… all he had to do was rotate the adapter 180° as stated on the packaging 😁
I used to have an engineer friend. He reminded me all the time. I would kindly remind him he’s 200k in debt and I earn more with zero debt.
@afreedog not for him. He’d go bankrupt before he ever pays that off. Don’t know or care. Used to be friends.
Engineers are deffinetly the worst to deal with. We had a difficult engineer while I worked at a Nissan dealer he swore black and blue his rear springs required replacement as they would sag when the car was fully loaded. He had no tow hitch either, we were all scratching our heads as to how much he was loading into his car
Engineering > Sales
If you have autism.
The full saying is "the customer is right in matters of taste."
Don't let customers roll over you.
That dude is what we call a “soul sucker”
That BMW M coupe at 7:55 😮❤😊