As of October 9th, 2024, The Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society announced they'll be restoring NYC L-3a 3001 to operation! You can help by donating here: fortwaynerailroad.givingfuel.com/nyc-3001 Article: railfan.com/new-york-central-4-8-2-mohawk-to-be-restored-to-operation/?fbclid=IwY2xjawFzdhFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHSTZgEOjxoRDZ63taCvKVWNfNuza37rjcnYhsXEBLLCWrxyrKykDRR7J-w_aem_lu5cv2Phf-CAKJvntrSbTg
I have a former classmate at my old school who’s favorite railroad is the New York Central, and I bet he’ll love this. This channel name is “ThatRedFolkner”
6:55 It looks like NYC steam is going to be ressurected. Today, at The National New York Central Railroad Museum in Elkhart, Indiana, the group there, along with the Fort Wayne Railroad (operators of Nickel Plate Berkshire No. 765) have announced that Mohawk No. 3001 is to be restored into full operational condition. The first NYC steam in over 60 years.
I really hope that would mean that a mad group of people could try and build a NYC Hudson from scratch and bring one of the famous engine designs to life
4:04 - The shape of the builder's plate shows that this loco, 3037, was a product of the Lima Locomotive Works. Alvin Staufer in his book "Steam Power of the New York Central System" writes that also 3100-3124 (L4a) and 3125-3149 (L4b) were Lima-built.
Still amazed there’s actually two of them left. 3001 was straight up lucky getting sold to the T&P before steam on the NYC ended, and 2933 _should've_ been scrapped with the other 598 Mohawks. Shop crews just manger to keep it hidden long enough
The Niagaras and Hudsons weren't so fortunate. It's unfortunate that American citizens weren't as mobilized as the Brits were when it came time to steam preservation.
I'm just glad the the Texas and Pacific railroad was mentioned, as it is my home railroad and I have a lot of personal history with them. It is interesting that a New York Central Mohawk ended up in Texas. I never knew that
@@WAL_DC-6B unless if both of them survived together, somebody should have saved 3001 and preserved it somewhere before being displayed where it currently is now. And Texas & Pacific 638 would have survived and stay at the same display area today.
I appreciate the whistle information, and the music choice. Thanks. It's so interesting how a fleet can go from 300 steam locomotives to none in something like 10 or 20 years. Development really happens fast.
The New York Central Mohawk is my favorite steam locomotive, as it was the first NYC engine I saw in person. I have an O gauge Lionel one, great sound, and a lot of power.
Pretty amazing video of the New York Central Mohawk locomotives. These are another beautiful locomotives. One of my Aunts has a Lionel New York Central Mohawk locomotive No. 3000.
@@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory thanks. My Aunt also has a Lionel New York Central Commodore Vanderbilt, Reading T1 2100, Western & Atlantic “General” #3, Conrail SD60M, Lionel Lines 2-4-2, Pennsylvania Railroad K4, Reading Iron Heritage 2-8-0, Pennsylvania Railroad 460, and other Lionel models.
We have some Bachman dcc Mohawks at the model railroad club I am a part of. They are such reliable engines and easily our must dependable steamers for train shows able to run longer reliably even longer than some diesels
I use the 2-8-2 Locomotives for industrial switching and the 4-6-2 Mixed Traffic Locomotive for Branchlines and Shortlines on Class 2 and Class 3 Railroads.
Wooo! Love me some elephant eared Mohawks! Great video as always, your style and pace works so well to get the information across while being clear and concise! Keep up the awesome work!
Great and unique fact I did wonder when steam locomotives were getting played out but I figured somewhere around the 1950’s steam locomotives transitioning to Diesel locomotives and most locomotives run by electric.
something to note: although the L3 design was successful as dual service, only the L3a ever actually pulled passenger (and freight). L3b and L3c engines were designated as freight only. Source: nycshs
This was the first time I've ever looked into the NY Central's Mohawks and I can safely say they're one of my favorite steam locomotives ever along with NY Central's own Niagara's, their streamlined engines, and UP's FEF-3s.
Excellent video! Where did you find the source for the clip at 5:14? I’m building a layout centered around that scene at Hiles Tower in New London, Ohio. Thanks and keep up the great work!
Yes, I adore the Mohawks, I saw 2933 in St. Louis in 2018, a real beauty. I especially love the dual-service L-3s and L-4s. 3001 is, in my honest opinion, the luckiest surviving steam locomotive. T&P to the rescue. The only surviving steam locomotive to have pulled the 20th Century Limited.
Enjoyed this video as well, no worries about the wait. Glad to see some of the Mohawks survived. As l said in comments section of the previous New York Central Hudson's video, check out the complete reproduction of famous steam locomotives in England ( Doncaster?) With locomotives such as the Tornado rebuilt from scratch.
First, I’m a big fan of your videos! I did just want to provide a correction as 3037 you have pictured has a LIMA builder plate which got me looking, as my great grandfather was working there at the time. L-1d 2585-2684, , L3-b 3035-3049 and lastly L4-b 3100-3149 all were built by Lima. Fun fact, the last L4-b order cost the NYC $182,633 for each locomotive. So can’t give ALCO all the credit. Also worth mentioning the NYC was Lima’s best customer with a total of 872 locomotives delivered. Source: Lima the history by Eric Hirsimaki.
Those Mohawk locomotives were one of the strongest steam trains in the US until the diesels took over and nearly every one of these locomotives were scrapped 🚂💥
Ever since I saw the famed UA-cam series the Mohawk that wouldn't quit I fell in love with the New York Central mohawks, at least some 3124's sisters survives
Nice Amtrakguy365 also Western Maryland 734 was replaced by C&O 1309 however 734 will be restored also is there any that you can do the NYCs Electric locomotives?
The New York central Mohawks are the only example of large New York central steam power to survive since all of New York central’s Hudsons and Niagaras were scrapped.
Idea for future episode: engines of Amtrak/New York central crossover with the EMD F and E units since both railroads owned those models and even the same individual locomotives.
Two of the L4b Mohawks, 3144 and 3148 were fitted with Timken roller bearing rods in the 1940's along with other modifications. They proved to be two of the fasted Mohawks on the system. However, with the coming of the Niagara there was no need to modify any others. MTH Premier has accurately modeled both of those engines in O scale.
A lot of people don't know but the st.louis transportation museum has a lot of rare pieces like the Mohawk that you stated but also the other remaining daylight in all black a aero train plus the Y6b I believe could be Y6a I forget. Also Frisco 1522 that use to run back in the day.
“If i had a nickel for every time the NYC named one of their most iconic locomotives after a river, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it’s happened twice.”
As of September 11th, 2023 during the monthly city of Elkhart common council meeting it was revealed that a organization from Fort Wayne Indiana (Possibly the Fort Wayne railroad Historical society who currently operates NKP765) has expressed interest and is very close to acquiring NYC 3001 from the city of Elkhart in order to restore it to possibly operating condition to be used in excursions. One of the challenges though is that some members of the city council are opposed to the idea of 3001 leaving because it is an asset to the city and it is this opposition that has killed off past attempts at restoring it.
you should make Engines of NYC for thier electrics too, like the S and P motors they owned, which (correct me if im wrong) were unique to that railroad great video btw
Every time I see this video, I can't help but be reminded of #HistoryInTheDark and his lampooning of Alfred Perlman, especially about the two surviving Mohawks...
My favorite NYC steam locomotive would be: New York Central 4-8-2 “Mohawk”. My favorite NYC diesel locomotive would be: New York Central EMD E9. My favorite NYC electric locomotive would be: New York Central T-Motor.
@@nssteampunk4865 3124 for is kinda odd because the look it has is on none of the nyc mohawks 3124 in trainz has smoke deflectors and a feed water heater
As of October 9th, 2024, The Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society announced they'll be restoring NYC L-3a 3001 to operation! You can help by donating here: fortwaynerailroad.givingfuel.com/nyc-3001
Article: railfan.com/new-york-central-4-8-2-mohawk-to-be-restored-to-operation/?fbclid=IwY2xjawFzdhFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHSTZgEOjxoRDZ63taCvKVWNfNuza37rjcnYhsXEBLLCWrxyrKykDRR7J-w_aem_lu5cv2Phf-CAKJvntrSbTg
And on the same day as Thomas's 40th anniversary
Seems like Railfans are eating good tonight
Holy shit! It’s actually happening!
3001 Return To Steam
That means that 3001 will be joining alongside 765 in the future!
She may run in New England
these seem nice
For sure. I got a feeling someone will be restoring it soon.
whats a train
Ain't no way?!?!
Let bro cook 🔥
Oh my god 😂
As of rematching this, 3001 is set to be restored to running order with an all NYC passenger train
Those are my favorite after “The Mohawk wouldn’t quit”
Who’s here when 3001 was announced to get restored to operating condition?
I have a former classmate at my old school who’s favorite railroad is the New York Central, and I bet he’ll love this. This channel name is “ThatRedFolkner”
Possibly.
@Mobius1F4 Fire, Smoke and Steam
@Mobius1F4 🖒🖒🖒
ima sub then
I saw his old 97 video!
6:55 It looks like NYC steam is going to be ressurected.
Today, at The National New York Central Railroad Museum in Elkhart, Indiana, the group there, along with the Fort Wayne Railroad (operators of Nickel Plate Berkshire No. 765) have announced that Mohawk No. 3001 is to be restored into full operational condition.
The first NYC steam in over 60 years.
Brings a tear to my eye.
I really hope that would mean that a mad group of people could try and build a NYC Hudson from scratch and bring one of the famous engine designs to life
4:04 - The shape of the builder's plate shows that this loco, 3037, was a product of the Lima Locomotive Works. Alvin Staufer in his book "Steam Power of the New York Central System" writes that also 3100-3124 (L4a) and 3125-3149 (L4b) were Lima-built.
Still amazed there’s actually two of them left. 3001 was straight up lucky getting sold to the T&P before steam on the NYC ended, and 2933 _should've_ been scrapped with the other 598 Mohawks. Shop crews just manger to keep it hidden long enough
The Niagaras and Hudsons weren't so fortunate. It's unfortunate that American citizens weren't as mobilized as the Brits were when it came time to steam preservation.
@@HHopebringer in the case of the NYCRR, blame a certain Mr. Perlman's anti-steam policy...
2933 slightly does resemble a Hudson albeit with the different wheel arrangement.
@@kristoffermangila untill you realise he donated 2933 to the museum [hearsay in the dark: he was drunk]
And 3001 is truly very lucky now.
I'm just glad the the Texas and Pacific railroad was mentioned, as it is my home railroad and I have a lot of personal history with them. It is interesting that a New York Central Mohawk ended up in
Texas. I never knew that
The Texas & Pacific is another beautiful railroad.
If that T&P 2-10-4 hadn't been vandalized to the point where it was scrapped, then NYC 3001 would never have been preserved.
@@WAL_DC-6B unless if both of them survived together, somebody should have saved 3001 and preserved it somewhere before being displayed where it currently is now. And Texas & Pacific 638 would have survived and stay at the same display area today.
I appreciate the whistle information, and the music choice. Thanks.
It's so interesting how a fleet can go from 300 steam locomotives to none in something like 10 or 20 years.
Development really happens fast.
The New York Central Mohawk is my favorite steam locomotive, as it was the first NYC engine I saw in person.
I have an O gauge Lionel one, great sound, and a lot of power.
I think we all know why we came back here....
Awesome! I saw both surviving nyc Mohawks! 2933 and 3001!
I’ve only seen 3001 because she’s closer to where I live.
They almost look like the Hudsons
Very informative video. At least two were saved. I can't wait for the Niagara video. In my humble opinion, the epitome of steam power.
Pretty amazing video of the New York Central Mohawk locomotives. These are another beautiful locomotives. One of my Aunts has a Lionel New York Central Mohawk locomotive No. 3000.
Cool! I have the same one! Its one of my favorite engines
@@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory thanks. My Aunt also has a Lionel New York Central Commodore Vanderbilt, Reading T1 2100, Western & Atlantic “General” #3, Conrail SD60M, Lionel Lines 2-4-2, Pennsylvania Railroad K4, Reading Iron Heritage 2-8-0, Pennsylvania Railroad 460, and other Lionel models.
We have some Bachman dcc Mohawks at the model railroad club I am a part of. They are such reliable engines and easily our must dependable steamers for train shows able to run longer reliably even longer than some diesels
*Happy Rodney Noise*
6:38 *angry rodney noises*
They *[REDACTED]* wrecked The Central!
Great video! The Mohawks were definitely some fascinating (and good looking) Steam Engines, lol.
INCOMING NEW YORK CENTRAL FOAMERS! I REPEAT, INCOMING NEW YORK CENTRAL FOAMERS!
I use the 2-8-2 Locomotives for industrial switching and the 4-6-2 Mixed Traffic Locomotive for Branchlines and Shortlines on Class 2 and Class 3 Railroads.
What are you talking about?! You don’t own a railroad
I’m glad two of them still stand!
I'm so happy two New York Central icons have been preserved. 4-8-2s are some of my favorite steam locomotives and the mohawks are no exception
We’ve been waiting for a second episode of this playlist, really good video :D
Wooo! Love me some elephant eared Mohawks! Great video as always, your style and pace works so well to get the information across while being clear and concise! Keep up the awesome work!
I’ve always admired the 4-8-2 wheel arrangement.
I've been looking forward to this
LIMA FOREVER
Finally, an in-depth video on the famed Mohawks. I have an admiration of the Mohawks, particularly L4b #3135
Does it have something to do with a certain fictional railroad in Colorado?
Great and unique fact I did wonder when steam locomotives were getting played out but I figured somewhere around the 1950’s steam locomotives transitioning to Diesel locomotives and most locomotives run by electric.
*He returns!* Great footage and fantastic music towards the middle.
I heard of this type, but never understood as a child what it meant. Thanks again!
something to note: although the L3 design was successful as dual service, only the L3a ever actually pulled passenger (and freight). L3b and L3c engines were designated as freight only. Source: nycshs
So glad I got off youtube shorts in order to go watch this
F THE SHORTS
@@OldIronVideo No YT shorts
All my homies hate YT shorts
Been patiently waiting for this!
I would love too see you cover the JNR steam locomotives
This was the first time I've ever looked into the NY Central's Mohawks and I can safely say they're one of my favorite steam locomotives ever along with NY Central's own Niagara's, their streamlined engines, and UP's FEF-3s.
There is a Mohawk locomotive too in New York, Chicago and St Louis better known as the nickel plate road
Excellent video! Where did you find the source for the clip at 5:14? I’m building a layout centered around that scene at Hiles Tower in New London, Ohio.
Thanks and keep up the great work!
As one who loves the Mohawk 4-8-2s, and owns a rare HO-scale model of an L1, I'm grateful for this video.
I have zero clue how I went from a 60’s-90’s railfan to a 1860’s-1930’s railfan. But I’m obsessing over the beauty of steam these days
Yes, I adore the Mohawks, I saw 2933 in St. Louis in 2018, a real beauty. I especially love the dual-service L-3s and L-4s. 3001 is, in my honest opinion, the luckiest surviving steam locomotive. T&P to the rescue. The only surviving steam locomotive to have pulled the 20th Century Limited.
I saw that one back in April, still a beautiful looking locomotive. Looked recently painted.
Mohawks on the New York Central Railroad were many called their 4-8-2s in both freight and passenger trains throughout the NYC System.
Enjoyed this video as well, no worries about the wait. Glad to see some of the Mohawks survived. As l said in comments section of the previous New York Central Hudson's video, check out the complete reproduction of famous steam locomotives in England ( Doncaster?) With locomotives such as the Tornado rebuilt from scratch.
Wow! This is such a good video, although I do the the Trainz stuff in the videos. But anyways, keep up the good work!
Nice I’ve been waiting for this :D
First, I’m a big fan of your videos! I did just want to provide a correction as 3037 you have pictured has a LIMA builder plate which got me looking, as my great grandfather was working there at the time. L-1d 2585-2684, , L3-b 3035-3049 and lastly L4-b 3100-3149 all were built by Lima. Fun fact, the last L4-b order cost the NYC $182,633 for each locomotive. So can’t give ALCO all the credit. Also worth mentioning the NYC was Lima’s best customer with a total of 872 locomotives delivered. Source: Lima the history by Eric Hirsimaki.
Those Mohawk locomotives were one of the strongest steam trains in the US until the diesels took over and nearly every one of these locomotives were scrapped 🚂💥
For mountain types I’m betting
I like your work, because you provide us with vaulable informations about the forgotten New York Central
who's here after 3001 is announced to return to steam a month ago?
I hope one day One of the mohawks 3001 or 2933 Will operate again in the near future
The return of the King
New York Central: Road of the Future!
Ever since I saw the famed UA-cam series the Mohawk that wouldn't quit I fell in love with the New York Central mohawks, at least some 3124's sisters survives
Nice Amtrakguy365 also Western Maryland 734 was replaced by C&O 1309 however 734 will be restored also is there any that you can do the NYCs Electric locomotives?
I've seen 3001 once. It's sad that she's being kept outside to suffer the blistering heat and frigid cold.
The New York central Mohawks are the only example of large New York central steam power to survive since all of New York central’s Hudsons and Niagaras were scrapped.
Thank you for making good videos like this! Good quality, good footage, and very charming voice^^
I love this and the engines of Amtrak series! Maybe if I have motivation I might make my own called "Engines of Queensland Rail"
Very informative and some incredible old footage ..thanks for sharing and educating us on this former railroad co.
Idea for future episode: engines of Amtrak/New York central crossover with the EMD F and E units since both railroads owned those models and even the same individual locomotives.
Ahead of the Niagra video. I've seen photos of Niagaras in operation in the mid 50s heading seasonal passenger trains to Mackinaw City, MI.
It’s ironic that the only surviving versions are Mexican Niagras both in Mexico and one on the New Hope and Ivyland, which is being restored slowly.
Two of the L4b Mohawks, 3144 and 3148 were fitted with Timken roller bearing rods in the 1940's along with other modifications. They proved to be two of the fasted Mohawks on the system. However, with the coming of the Niagara there was no need to modify any others. MTH Premier has accurately modeled both of those engines in O scale.
Cool video AmtrakGuy365. My Grandpa as a NTH RailKing L3 Mohawk.
I was in Elkhart just last week! I love seeing 3001
I saw 2933 in st Louis but i live in indiana .the Hoosier state will be excited to see 3001 back in steam
I'm excited for the Niagara video. This series is so good!
Oh man I wish you did a video about the NYC A1 Berkshire or NYC K5-b pacific (aka The Mercury)
I love the Mohawks. They have very cool designs.
I hope one day, the 3001 or 2933 gets restored to operational condition one day.
Well, it looks like that wish will come true sooner than expected.....
Boy do I have news for you😂
@@4fproductions637 I just heard!
I know! I’m excited!
A lot of people don't know but the st.louis transportation museum has a lot of rare pieces like the Mohawk that you stated but also the other remaining daylight in all black a aero train plus the Y6b I believe could be Y6a I forget. Also Frisco 1522 that use to run back in the day.
The Y is a Y6a
Nice video!
Quite Amazing.
Out of all the 4-8-2's, besides the frisco t-54's, thease are my favorite :)
“If i had a nickel for every time the NYC named one of their most iconic locomotives after a river, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it’s happened twice.”
As of September 11th, 2023 during the monthly city of Elkhart common council meeting it was revealed that a organization from Fort Wayne Indiana (Possibly the Fort Wayne railroad Historical society who currently operates NKP765) has expressed interest and is very close to acquiring NYC 3001 from the city of Elkhart in order to restore it to possibly operating condition to be used in excursions. One of the challenges though is that some members of the city council are opposed to the idea of 3001 leaving because it is an asset to the city and it is this opposition that has killed off past attempts at restoring it.
I miss engines of Amtrak thank you
You make FANTASTIC videos
you should make Engines of NYC for thier electrics too, like the S and P motors they owned, which (correct me if im wrong) were unique to that railroad
great video btw
Great video with wonderful history
0:23 is that what I think it is?
THE EAGLE LAKE & WEST BRANCH RAILROAD #2?
YES I've been waiting for this
just a bit of a heads up, at 4:50 you put the converison rate for inches to milimetres instead of the measurement (driver size). Great video though!
Nice Video
Every time I see this video, I can't help but be reminded of #HistoryInTheDark and his lampooning of Alfred Perlman, especially about the two surviving Mohawks...
A. Perlman: "I WANT THAT STEAM ENGINE!!"
love this new series do his again
Haven't seen footage like this. Cool!
My grandfather operated Mohawks. TD Atlanta
hey jared i have a cool idea !
you should complete engines of new york central part 5!!!
Hi AmtrakGuy365! I love ur videos!
What is your favorite New York central locomotive.
My favorite NYC steam locomotive would be: New York Central 4-8-2 “Mohawk”.
My favorite NYC diesel locomotive would be: New York Central EMD E9.
My favorite NYC electric locomotive would be: New York Central T-Motor.
Yes!
Very well done, thank you.
A very reliable mixed-traffic steam engine that redefined New York Central's mainline passenger & freight services in the early 20th century.
Wait all this time the AFT and Chessie System Special Auxiliary tender was a Mohawk Tender!? I thought it was from another T1.
Mohawks are spectacular!
THIS IS THE ROAD TO THE FUTURE! NEW YORK CENTRAL!
Does anyone else remember The Mohawk that Wouldn’t Quit?
yes
Me!
Me too.
@@nssteampunk4865 3124 for is kinda odd because the look it has is on none of the nyc mohawks 3124 in trainz has smoke deflectors and a feed water heater
The New York Central rr had the best looking 4-8-2 type locomotives of any railroad in my opinion, specifically the L3 & L4 classes.
I love the NYC 4-8-2 Mohawks
Me too.
@@nathancorcoran5347 Same here mine is 3001
Super cool video with lots of history 👍
The New York Central Mohawks were a relative of the Hudson’s as they have similar fronts.
Love this. Thanks.