here's a fun fact: if you remember Clive (Rose's conspiracy theorist friend from the New Who pilot episode) his obsession with the Doctor was ignited as a young man when he discovered his father was one of the soldiers killed by the Imperial Daleks in this very story and the incident was covered up. Doctor Who continuity is wild
The human forces aren't the British Army - they're the RAF. They use rank titles that are more similar to the Navy than the Army - a Group Captain is the equivalent of a Navy Captain or an Army Colonel (I always assumed it was a reference to the rank that Lethbridge-Stewart started out with), Mike Smith would have a bomber jacket as part of his flight uniform (it was cold up there). Although he'd probably be on a charge for letting it get so shabby looking.
A friend of mine actually owns the original Black Dalek prop from this episode. It currently sits in his house and goes under the name of Derek. It makes a random appearance in one of my old livestreams.
@@93MANIAC Its one of my Modeller's Corner ones. They went through different titles depending on what happened during the stream. But I think the one the Dalek features is under the title - "Can you hear me now?! Simon apologies for everything & a Pug made from a Jag."
@@weirds0up He also had several different roles in Dr. Who previously like in Mind of Evil and Pyramid of Mars. Also the guy who played Radcliffe, George Sewell was in UFO and in turn the inspiration of Dr. Fuyutsuki from Evangelion.
39:58 "...they bring out their big gun, quite literally: the Special Weapons Dalek." Special Weapons Dalek in usual Dalek tone: "I AM HEAVY WEAPONS GUY."
It was my privilege to see Sylvester McCoy at a Con last year. And he was playing it up with the crowd enough, that it seemed like he could do another full series as the Doctor.
@@KevinTheTimeGeek86 it's my understanding that a big reason for so many actors following the "Troughton Rule" of doing three years and getting out is that it's a very serious and tiring gig. And not to diminish the audio adventures (because they're awesome), they are a different beast from full acting on the show, then the virtually worldwide publicity that comes with it.
@@KonElKent Yeah, I know. I was just being a glib little Big Finish devotee. Also, I'm a wee bit jealous you got to meet McCoy. He's one of the Doctors I haven't met yet. I also want to meet Capaldi. :D
Thinking about it, it might have been a subtle reference considering that takes place in ian's Classroom and he was the first action hero of doctor who
23:13 My headcanon for the election of the Emperor Dalek has always been simple: the one that survives the most fights and scores the most kills. For a species like them, might making right is a no-brainer, and a figure like the Emperor is there more out of necessity of simplified strategy rmore than anything, being more of a military commander rather than a political leader. -Teo
"One trait that I share with the Doctor is that I can TALK." The Entity just got a shiver down its spine from that...actually that line sounds like something Linkara would say before using his talking powers to beat up Mechakara or the King of Worms.
Funnily enough, when he talks about the "Daleks not being equal to each other" part, it just reminds me of a Doctor Who Unbound story "Masters of War". The Daleks in it were a bit more reasonable compared to their prime universe counterparts. While they still exterminate things incredibly quickly, they're not so stringent about what is actually inside of a Dalek's casing. Daleks are not only superior beings, but (in this particular case) all equally superior.
I love how the Daleks sound. Cold logic roaring out in all burning hate. They are, fittingly for fascists, hollow shells animated by corrosive, poisonous hate. They don’t even have a motive anymore, beyond their hatred of all other life for the crime of not being Daleks. Their battle cry is fitting. Exterminate. This isn’t war to them. This is extermination. They are not faced with sapient being ls to murder, but mere insects to, well, exterminate.
As a reminder the voices are the Daleks and the battle Computer are both the late Roy Skelton and Royce Mills, Brian Miller and K-9 Voice actor John Leeson.
Fun fact: The story's writer, Ben Aaronovitch, planned on including other aliens from past Dalek stories. Namely, the Ogrons from Day of the Daleks and the Mechanoids from the Chase. He ultimately decided against it because there was already a lot going on.
@@l0stndamned Yes. He also wrote the novel adaptation of this story, which is worth a read for the extra layers it adds, like for example, the special weapons Dalek is not utilised as well as it could be because it is considered to be a bit dodgy for not being a normal Dalek. That's apart from it being a bit insane, which is less of a problem in Dalek society.
Fun fact About the ogrens According to a big finished story, I don't remember which one they did not originally exist in the timeline.The time war daleks retroactively added them in Which is just fascinating
Definitely my second favorite classic Dalek story after Genesis of the Daleks. Also Ace bashing a Dalek with a baseball bat will never get old. And happy 60th anniversary Doctor Who - how time flies.
19:44 One detail I love about this serial, and a completely unintentional one, is that the rocket actually leaves a burn mark on the wall behind Ace and the Doctor. The prop gun had that much gun powder in it.
It's not the only time something like that happened during the filming of Doctor Who Sylvester McCoy was almost blown up during the filming of The Greatest Show in the Galaxy
@@93MANIACNot to mention when Sophie Aldred was almost electrocuted during the filming of Battlefield due to the water tank being used being totally unsuited for the job.
Fun Fact: Even back in the day, non-TV Doctor Who media portrayed the Daleks as being able to fly. My dad, an avid reader of the comics back when he was a kid, was VERY pleased when the 2005 revival showed one going up the stairs. "They could always do that, people used to joke about the stairs, but I KNEW they could fly..." Hell hath no smugness like a vindicated nerd.
fairly certain that the two biggest Causes for the time war were the first doctor episodes of the daleks Because without that they would probably stay in their bunkers And the chase where the freaking pepper pots get time travel
I would be remised if I didn't mention Mike's actor Dursley McLinden and the fact he and this story were a major inspiration on Russell T Davies's 'It's a Sin' (the story being referenced in Episode 4).
@kitestar Matthew Toffolo is 'Batmanmarch' on UA-cam and is a massive 'Doctor Who' fan and hosts a DW podcast called 'The Review of Death'. His brother Jonathan is a big Sylvester McCoy fan and has a funny habit of being very nitpicky on 7th Doctor costumes.
38:28 I'd say it seems hilariously easy to blind them by obstructing their eyestalks but I then I remembered when Will tried using a paintball gun and the dalek just _melted_ the paint off: "MY VISION IS *_NOT_* IMPAIRED"
Love, love, love this story. Sylvester wasn't my first doctor (that would be Tom Baker) but when I saw him, he quickly became my favorite classic doctor.
One thing I will say about the Cartmel (sp?) Masterplan is that the idea of an important founding member of a society growing to be it's greatest rebel sounds like it does have a lot of interesting story prospects. On the other hand, I think I agree with you that we don't have to have answers for everything, and sometimes it's better without them.
Shoutout to the Gameshow Reviewer for that amazing intro sequence! Btw, this is my favorite classic who story and the 7th Doctor is my favorite classic Doctor
“That’s not a transmat. This is a transmat!” OK EVERYONE, LINKARA WINS THE INTERNET, PACK IT UP, TIME TO GO HOME ETA: I am an extremely casual Dr. Who fan but DAMN I love the Dr. Who-ified AT4W intro! Gets me frickin pumped ^^
Ace and the 7th Doctor are my favorite as well. I also agree that the Doctor works best when there’s mystery about the character, and when they try to answer those mysteries it doesn’t seem to work. Anyway, even though I haven’t seen these episodes in awhile, it’s still one of my favorite stories.
I tend to feel that the last two seasons of Classic Who were the biggest influence on New Who. The Doctor being darker and manipulative, more focus on the companions and their own back stories, more frenetic pacing, and improved effects.
Which made me remember when Nash from Radio dead air did Doctor Who videos a long time ago, he made a list of classic serials for new Who fans to watch that tied into what the series was doing currently. And in that video, he pointed out that Remembrance would be one of the serials that would be one the easiest for a new Who fan to get into, precisely because it felt like a story new Who could do today.
These were actually the only episodes of Classic Who I own on DVD (Mostly because this was before they did season sets for them.) Appropriately because you mentioned this was your favorite episode set in your first Doctor Who review. So thanks for that, Lewis. Also, happy thanksgiving.
"I'm not saying Ace would have single-handedly ended the time war if she was there" LINKARA, YOU FOOL, she WAS in the Time War, Big Finish's Galifrey Sub-Series on the Time War has here in there!
31:37 The Answer to that besides the Prop gun not working: Imprvovised line. Sometimes writers and directors need something that closes off a scene and come to find out day of shooting that something is missing to close out the scene As for the serial: got on DVD. Irony you mentioned Rick of Rick and Morty in a Doctor Who review this week
One could argue that The Hand of Omega did end up in the wrong hands at the end. Especially if the Time Lords used it in the time war. The war caused so much destruction that the Time Lords are just as bad as the Daleks were. It would have been better if the doctor just destroyed it or kept it himself.
I will argue that the best cliffhanger in the series is the end of Episode 1 of Earthshock, however this comes a close second. (Incidentally my two favourite stories)
In all the multiverse one of the universes I'd like to visit is the one where Linkara is The Doctor. But with my luck I'd end up in a universe where the only difference is that the letter S looks like a backwards Z.
The fact the Daleks took so long to change in order to be able to handle stairs makes sense when you consider that to have room for improvement would imply they aren't already perfect. By their very nature they would actively resist accepting that anything about them was less than perfection.
Andrew cartmel didnt actually have a whole backstory planned as thoyght recently said only tease the Doctor’s background, retaining the mystery and All he wanted to do [with the “Cartmel Masterplan”] is throw the Doctor back into shadow again and just give hints of what was going on criticized timeless child for all backstiry detail revealed
With schedule slippage like this, I wouldn't be surprised if Linkara does a Christmas video if February. *grabs popcorn* time to watch Linkara talk about my second favorite show
I remember watching Nash's reviews of classic Doctor Who and he did a list of classic episodes that were intended for new viewers, this one was number two. Also if it wouldn't take a huge chunk of time that you probably don't have I would like to see a video about your personal favorite Doctor Who episodes both classic and new but again since I know you have various projects going on I understand why you wouldn't be able to right now.
The novelisation of this is excellent. This was a point where Target gave the writers more page count to work with, as well as making more effort to get the original writers to novelise their own stories (or at least writers adept at the eras the stories came from, avoiding the text to page jobs Terrance Dicks was churning out by the early 80’s). Ben Aaronovitch did this one, fleshing out and expanding the characters as well as building out the internal lore with things like document extracts at the start of chapters. Terry Molloy, who played Davros in the TV story, does the audiobook reading and he is brilliant at it. The novelisation was also chosen to represent the Seventh Doctor in the 50th anniversary novel reprint line.
Fun fact....a Captain named Mike does have another Who reference when he was dismissed....in INVASION OF THE DINOSAURS, Mike Yates was revealed to be in league with the evil humans, thus the Brigadier let's him leave.
My first doctor was Tom Baker with Genesis Of The Daleks on a rerun when I was I think 5 or 6? I can’t remember all I do remember is when I first rewatched it. I love Tom’s outfit and can say he’s my absolute favourite of all time but seeing McCoy or others involving the Daleks is always good :)
As a Brit, some facts and fun trivia. 1. No, they don't. Far as I understand it, if the army needed help, they'd call in other regiments, call in off-station soldiers or some TROJAN Units. What's a TROJAN Unit? Well, the UK police hasn't used guns on a standised basis since the 1960's and the most your average officer is armed with is a taser. TROJAN is the armed police division and are armed with pistols and carbines. Unlike America, England doesn't have a massive gun problem since we changed our laws around after the Dunblane Primary School shooting in Scotland where everyone who has a gun needs a license and in most cases, they're outright banned. What happened in Dunblane? Long story short, a fired boy scouts leader walked into a primary school gym and killed 17 and injured 15 before he killed himself. Why was he fired? Because the County Commissioner was worried about "his moral intentions towards boys" after receiving complaints about things like boys being forced to sleep close to him in his van when on trips. In other words, they believed he was a paedophile although he was never charged with any actual crimes. Instead of guns, we have a knife crime problem although shootings do still occasionally happen; especially now our economy has gone to utter shit. 2. The Daleks were created by the late Terry Nation and, due to the terms of their contract, the BBC were essentially licensing out the characters from him which is a major reason why their appearances were often sporadic. He wrote basically all of the classic series Dalek episodes just because the BBC didn't want to have to sit around and wait to possibly get a thumbs down. Nation wouldn't refuse to okay a script if he penned it himself, right? He also got a slice of merchandising sales and this was before the practice of using loopholes and specific wording to screw creators was as common so he made a pretty penny to say the least. When Nation died in 1997, the rights went to the BBC since the contract was only for his life and wouldn't default to his family. 3. In fact, Nation conceptualised a US Dalek spin-off TV series in 1965 but this never went anywhere both due to the BBC suing him and because he realised Doctor Who didn't really exist in the USA. Doctor Who wasn't really a big thing in the USA until the 1996 movie (or at least, not at such a level that a spin-off show would be worth the time and money) so it would be pretty much dead on arrival.. 4. Terry Nation is also the creator of Blake's 7 as well as the Cybermen but, mostly due to lessons learnt from the Dalek affair three years earlier, they made sure they held the actual rights to the Cybermen. 5. To expand on that Dalek stairs joke, this was supposed to put the joke to rest since Andrew Carmel (the script editor and Turner's right-hand man) thought it was played out and getting repetitive. This and the Doctor having a proactive role in the story were the first two concepts he had when writing "Nemesis Of The Doctor" whose script became Remembrance. The joke was iconic and a fan favourite though so it didn't really die until "Dalek" in 2006. 6. The Doctor was originally supposed to use the grenade launcher on the Dalek but it was changed to Ace because of his hatred for guns. 7. Coal Hill School became the basis of a 2016 spin-off called Class that was cancelled after one season which equalled only eight episodes due to godawful ratings even in a post-UA-cam world. We're talking under 100k viewers for a brand new episode airing for the first time. Why did it perform so badly? Probably because the concept sounds like fanfiction and the Doctor Who show barely featured Capaldi. It was Doctor Who in location name only that happened to have the Eleventh Doctor occasionally pop up. Add onto that the core series going into a ratings slump around the time as well since Capaldi's era was stagnating and it was a death sentence. 8. The computer is voiced by John Leeson, the voice of K-9, doing a Davros impression. For reference, Davros has had four different actors over time but the one playing him at the time was Terry Molloy. 9. The headmaster is played by Admiral Ozzel from The Empire Strikes Back. The casting was an in-joke on the fact that the late Michael Sheard was most well known in the UK as Maurice Bronson on the children's show Grange Hill which ran for a concurrent THIRTY YEARS.
Others have pointed out that these troops are RAF, and not army, which explains Mike's flying jacket, however, that still leaves us needing an explanation for the rest of his attire being civilian. IMO, Mike is "in mufti", "mufti" being British military slang for civilian clothing, mostly in the context of what is worn off duty, but sometimes associated with personnel going "under cover" for operational reasons.
I think Planet of the Daleks was the earliest Doctor Who story I remember watching. It was repeated in the early 90's. i met Sylvester Mccoy at a con who is a very lovely man and he signed my DVD copy of Rememberence.
34:55 - personally I think the revelation of the Timeless Child should’ve been that they were the Master, it just fits better than having them be the Doctor given how the Master keeps getting killed off ‘for realsies this time, no one could’ve survived that’ so often only to show up again with no explanation (iirc the one time he was called out on it he just handwaved it away with something like “Come now Doctor, the whole universe knows I’m indestructible.” This could’ve then been tied into the Cartmel Master Plan elements that had been put in place by having the Doctor being the one who found the Timeless Child and reverse engineered Regeneration from them (although hopefully with less implications of torture and abuse than what we got). I don’t see the anti-authoritarian, anti-noninterventionist Doctor being a founding member of Time Lord society necessarily a problem. There’s nothing to say that their society was founded as being authoritarian and isolationist rather than it falling into that over time. In fact, arguably it’d make more sense if the early Time Lords were more pro-active given throughout the series we have gotten the odd mention of them being active in the distant past. As such, there’d be no issue having the Other being like the Doctor and founding Time Lord society. Probably also worth remembering that the Doctor himself has grown and changed over the regenerations; recall that the very first episode ends with him abducting two people, and later on in the very same serial he would’ve murdered a guy in cold blood if one of said abductees hadn’t been there to stop him. Also, iirc, the First Doctor could at times be a little bit racist and sexist, so he probably wasn’t as far removed from his societies attitudes as later regenerations were. I also don’t think that having the Other be in lockstep with Time Lord society even if it was authoritarian and noninterventionist would necessarily be that bad a thing as it would open up storytelling opportunities for the show to show us how the Other changed over time and became the Doctor. I think the biggest issue though, is that this would need to be planned out in advance (even only as vague bullet points) rather than dropping the reveal with no idea of where to take it and the showrunner just walking away going “eh, that’s the new guy’s problem”.
You know , if you completely ignore the master's character throughout the entirety of classic doctor who and the majority Of the extended universe How he was literally characterized by the fact that he was dying and only had one life And ignore the fact that the doctor has essentially been a trickster demigod since the start Like the master is a character who is actually required to be just another time.Lord because a lot of his problems come from the fact that he is in that special He's not important.He's not The smartest He's just some egomaniac
So funny thing, for BBC children in need 2023 they showed a doctor who short of Davros presenting the prototype of the dalek, with a little gag of the doctor breaking it and replacing one of it’s appendages with a plunger. Plus the actor who plays a pre mutated Davros was a decent choice and his reaction to the plunger is priceless
I was actually thinking about posting the Rick and Morty thing just as you brought it up! My dad was a huge Doctor Who fan, but I mostly know New Who, with only a few classic episodes under my belt.
A nice quiet scene with the Doctor and a regular person, going over the consequences of his actions and the meaning of the things he does. With a cafe worker who was the same actor that played the butler on Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
Now I'm curious about your thoughts on The Happiness Patrol. Do you think you can do a review on that in the future? Also, random question: Which is your favorite Doctor of the original series? And which is one is your favorite in the revival series?
Well, he answered it was the Seventh Doctor overall, and for the modern series given how much he mentions him it's probably the Twelfth Doctor. EDIT, I also apologize for answering your question instead of Linkara.
That’s one thing you have to hand to modern Who: when Davros shows up, it’s treated as a BIG DEAL. Children in Need notwithstanding. But I’m not opposed to restored Davros.
I'm pretty sure this was my first DW story. I think it was airing on WTTW Chicago around I want to say 2000-ish. DW was a show I had heard about growing up but never bothered to research as a kid. This was still well before the renaissance and the show was still extremely niche nerd shit. And to be honest, it went over my head. Like, I enjoyed the Daleks themselves as the little bastards they are, but the show felt too...specifically British for me to comprehend. It would still take a few years before Who would connect with me, and when it finally did, it took even longer for me to connect with the 7th Doctor. Tom Baker was my ride or die. Of course, now I realize this is one of the best Who stories of all time. It's fantastic. A great example of how Who can make any budget feel cinematic.
36:14 that's another fun thing about Doctor Who and, honestly, Sci Fi in general; the use of everyday things in prop and set design. Even in New-who there's moments where the Doctor is changing cables around in his Tardis and those cables are just audio jack leads.
A cable is just a cable.No matter what you go wiring is usually the same my thought Also at certain points and newhood the tardis is literally chronically made out of junk I don't think the war Doctor and the ninth Doctor actually had different interiors.I think the doctor had just slowly replaced peace after peace over time
Remembrance is the first 7th Doctor story I ever watched, as part of the Doctors Revisited specials they ran back in 2013 for the 50th anniversary. I……didn’t absorb much of it. I was still new to the franchise, only got into it a year before, and was still adapting to how the Classic Era worked. But last year I started a watch through of Classic Who, starting with 7s run start to finish and I loved watching Remembrance. It’s a nice anniversary piece without being a traditional anniversary piece.
The battle computer was voiced by John Leeson, who previously played K-9 in Doctor Who. Leeson was asked to make his voice sound like Davros, to trick viewers into thinking the computer was Davros, so he watched past episodes for reference. Trivia about the headmaster who was a mind-controlled servant of the Daleks in this episode, he's played by Michael Sheard, best known to UK audiences for playing Deputy Headteacher Maurice Bronson on the popular children's television drama series, Grange Hill, though he's likely best known to international audiences as Admiral Ozzel in Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back. He actually has a long history with Doctor Who, along with Remembrance of the Daleks he also appeared in the First Doctor story The Ark (1966), the Third Doctor story The Mind of Evil (1971), two Fourth Doctor in stories Pyramids of Mars (1975) (for which he later recorded a DVD commentary) and The Invisible Enemy (1977), and the Fifth Doctor story Castrovalva (1982). He appeared on the Big Finish Eighth Doctor audio adventure, The Stones of Venice. He was a regular guest at both Doctor Who and Star Wars conventions over the years in the U.S. and the UK. Another interesting tidbit about Sheard that connects his character to the Daleks, Sheard is also known for portraying Adolf Hitler five times in his career: in Rogue Male (1976), The Tomorrow People (1978), The Dirty Dozen: Next Mission (1985), Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989) and the documentary Secret History: Hitler of the Andes (2003). One of the potential actors who were in the running to play Mike Smith in this episode was Mark McGann, the brother of Paul McGann aka. The Eighth Doctor.
Happy turkey day and doctor who day! Remembrance for me is easily one of the best Dalek tv stories period, right up there with Power, Genesis, and 9's Dalek story.
It's interesting that you mention Davros being overused when I've seen him all of twice in Nu Who, and both times were for MASSIVE schemes. Goes to show how powerful restraint can be.... which is funny when the Daleks themselves are probably overused. Though for me, the Daleks will always retain some menace since I was introduced to them through 9. The way even a lone disabled Dalek was treated as a 1 alien force of annihilation. The fear it brought out in The Doctor. Then the anger, the sadism, and hate. It showed for all his whimsy and energy, these things brought out his very worst.
IIRC, there's something in the contract between Terry Nation's estate and the BBC that if they don't use the Daleks a certain number of times per whatever time period the BBC loses the rights to continue using them at all?
@@00andJoe Ah. That would do it. Transformers also has to make sure it uses characters frequently enough to maintain the rights to them. Which is why some recolors and remolds are made. Not necessarily to fill a known demand, but to keep the name in circulaiton.
I like to think the 7th Doctor was a chessmaster, it's just that he was always stuck playing speed chess, starting with an incomplete set of pieces on his side, against an opponent with a full set. ...and yet still managed to pull off masterful checkmates against said opponents. He was great at improvising plans as he went along and discovered the enemy's plans bit by bit. Which I frankly find far more impressive than assuming he knows what's going on at all times and is always 5 steps ahead. It doesn't matter if he's playing catch up while you're five steps ahead of him, the Doctor WILL outsmart you.
40:34 Huh, did not know the conflicts between the Irish and the modern British (as in, not the Welsh, who were the original Britons the island is named after) go so far into more recent history.
Great review, but I feel the need to point out that Andrew Cartmel has gone on record saying that the details of the Masterplan were *never* supposed to be revealed on screen. He wanted it to only ever be hints and teases.
A few and they definitely help, but the story itself is just not that great. I suspect they also fix the sound mixing, which was awful in the copy I have.
My husband showed me this four-parter for the first time last night. This was perfect timing and we absolutely had to watch your take now! I like how you summarize episodes, as you catch things I don't.
18:35 - Definitely a "pants to be darkened" moment. Also, I recently started watching the 2005 relaunch of Doctor Who, and I really like what I've seen so far, especially the "Dalek" episode, which does a great job showing how much of a threat just one of those tin cans poses. It's a shame they don't give out Oscars for TV shows, though, because Eccleston was absolutely on fire in that episode. 26:03 - "Class is Pain 101. Your instructor's (C)Ace(y Jones)".
Ace’s music player would cause issue in Colditz, where it gave the Nazis laser technology and swung the war right in their favour. Fortunately someone from that timeline went back to Colditz Castle and unwittingly prevented the development that created her world.
If he show had continued for one more season, guess she would have been on Galifrey for the time war. Wasnt the plan for her departure to basically be her going to the time lord academy
Happy Thanksgiving, and Happy TARDIS Day!! I have fond memories of this serial. Hell, how could I have not loved Ace, she was so badass! As a young lass that mostly had male heroes, the screaming of most of the female companions got old pretty fast.
here's a fun fact:
if you remember Clive (Rose's conspiracy theorist friend from the New Who pilot episode) his obsession with the Doctor was ignited as a young man when he discovered his father was one of the soldiers killed by the Imperial Daleks in this very story and the incident was covered up.
Doctor Who continuity is wild
Bloody hell, how did I not pick up on that until now?! That's amazing continuity :D
Dang 😮
guessing this was an addition to the novelisation?
Wow just wow
in this story? 42 years prior?!?!
13:10 "Ace! Give me some of that Nitro-9 that you're not carrying!" Love those kinds of lines.
The human forces aren't the British Army - they're the RAF. They use rank titles that are more similar to the Navy than the Army - a Group Captain is the equivalent of a Navy Captain or an Army Colonel (I always assumed it was a reference to the rank that Lethbridge-Stewart started out with), Mike Smith would have a bomber jacket as part of his flight uniform (it was cold up there). Although he'd probably be on a charge for letting it get so shabby looking.
How do the daleks decide who gets to be emperor?
Swimsuit competition.
It's a competition in who can scream "EXTERMINATE!" the most menacingly.
A friend of mine actually owns the original Black Dalek prop from this episode. It currently sits in his house and goes under the name of Derek. It makes a random appearance in one of my old livestreams.
Awesome can you tell me which livestream it appeared in?
@@93MANIAC Its one of my Modeller's Corner ones. They went through different titles depending on what happened during the stream. But I think the one the Dalek features is under the title - "Can you hear me now?! Simon apologies for everything & a Pug made from a Jag."
Yes it is that one. It happens at 1:46:39 within the stream.
@@WhitehouseFilms There's no direct link to the video only a timeline which does not take me to your video
Found the Livestream. That is freaking wild.
Was... that Geoffrey the Butler as the café owner?!? Also Happy Thanksgiving to all the Whovians!! I am truly thankful for this month.
Yes it was. He could probably snark Davros into submission if he wanted.
Yes it is. And the headmaster was played by Michael Sheard who also played Admiral Ozzel in Empire Strikes Back
😁Nice catch
@@weirds0up The headmaster is clumsy as he is stupid.
@@weirds0up He also had several different roles in Dr. Who previously like in Mind of Evil and Pyramid of Mars. Also the guy who played Radcliffe, George Sewell was in UFO and in turn the inspiration of Dr. Fuyutsuki from Evangelion.
39:58 "...they bring out their big gun, quite literally: the Special Weapons Dalek."
Special Weapons Dalek in usual Dalek tone: "I AM HEAVY WEAPONS GUY."
WHO TOUCHED SASHA
It was my privilege to see Sylvester McCoy at a Con last year. And he was playing it up with the crowd enough, that it seemed like he could do another full series as the Doctor.
He technically already has and then some thanks to Big Finish. :D
@@KevinTheTimeGeek86 it's my understanding that a big reason for so many actors following the "Troughton Rule" of doing three years and getting out is that it's a very serious and tiring gig. And not to diminish the audio adventures (because they're awesome), they are a different beast from full acting on the show, then the virtually worldwide publicity that comes with it.
@@KonElKent Yeah, I know. I was just being a glib little Big Finish devotee. Also, I'm a wee bit jealous you got to meet McCoy. He's one of the Doctors I haven't met yet. I also want to meet Capaldi. :D
The scene where Ace bashes the Dalek with her baseball bat while it's shooting lasers at her was great. Plus, she jumps through a glass window!
Thinking about it, it might have been a subtle reference considering that takes place in ian's Classroom and he was the first action hero of doctor who
And she twists her ankle in a logical way while doing it.
As I said in my comment, when I first saw this as a teen, I didn't quite get it. But I DID get that scene! That shit was crazy and I loved it!
McCoy came into my local gaming shop while he was travelling between two conventions. He seemed like an awesome guy from what little I witnessed.
23:13 My headcanon for the election of the Emperor Dalek has always been simple: the one that survives the most fights and scores the most kills. For a species like them, might making right is a no-brainer, and a figure like the Emperor is there more out of necessity of simplified strategy rmore than anything, being more of a military commander rather than a political leader.
-Teo
"One trait that I share with the Doctor is that I can TALK."
The Entity just got a shiver down its spine from that...actually that line sounds like something Linkara would say before using his talking powers to beat up Mechakara or the King of Worms.
Big Terry McGinnis energy
Maybe Vyce, too.
Sometimes that can be the best tool you have.
That dalek election joke is pretty funny when u remember the dalek parliament from asylum of the daleks
Also, ironically, the daleks have like several different secret societies, alia, the illuminati
Funnily enough, when he talks about the "Daleks not being equal to each other" part, it just reminds me of a Doctor Who Unbound story "Masters of War".
The Daleks in it were a bit more reasonable compared to their prime universe counterparts. While they still exterminate things incredibly quickly, they're not so stringent about what is actually inside of a Dalek's casing. Daleks are not only superior beings, but (in this particular case) all equally superior.
@@RevanNautbtw the unbound stories are awesome my favorite are full fathom five and sympathy for the devil
There’s a fan theory that the Dalek Emperor is the same Dalek who attempted to exterminate Davros back in “Genesis.”
I love how the Daleks sound. Cold logic roaring out in all burning hate. They are, fittingly for fascists, hollow shells animated by corrosive, poisonous hate. They don’t even have a motive anymore, beyond their hatred of all other life for the crime of not being Daleks. Their battle cry is fitting. Exterminate. This isn’t war to them. This is extermination. They are not faced with sapient being ls to murder, but mere insects to, well, exterminate.
“This is not war. This is pest control.”
@@JamesAdams-nd1td Precisely.
Well put!
@@Gasoline85 Thank you.
That exact.mindset is found among humans.
It's almost odd that they never retconned Skaro into a future version of Earth.
As a reminder the voices are the Daleks and the battle Computer are both the late Roy Skelton and Royce Mills, Brian Miller and K-9 Voice actor John Leeson.
Fun fact: The story's writer, Ben Aaronovitch, planned on including other aliens from past Dalek stories. Namely, the Ogrons from Day of the Daleks and the Mechanoids from the Chase. He ultimately decided against it because there was already a lot going on.
Is that the same guy who wrote the Rivers of London series?
@@l0stndamned Yes. He also wrote the novel adaptation of this story, which is worth a read for the extra layers it adds, like for example, the special weapons Dalek is not utilised as well as it could be because it is considered to be a bit dodgy for not being a normal Dalek. That's apart from it being a bit insane, which is less of a problem in Dalek society.
Fun fact About the ogrens
According to a big finished story, I don't remember which one they did not originally exist in the timeline.The time war daleks retroactively added them in
Which is just fascinating
21:15 Talks about going on tangents but doesn't take the time to tangent and point out that was Geoffrey from The Fresh Prince.
Definitely my second favorite classic Dalek story after Genesis of the Daleks. Also Ace bashing a Dalek with a baseball bat will never get old. And happy 60th anniversary Doctor Who - how time flies.
19:44 One detail I love about this serial, and a completely unintentional one, is that the rocket actually leaves a burn mark on the wall behind Ace and the Doctor. The prop gun had that much gun powder in it.
It's not the only time something like that happened during the filming of Doctor Who Sylvester McCoy was almost blown up during the filming of The Greatest Show in the Galaxy
@@93MANIAC That era of the show really liked its pyrotechnics it seems
@@93MANIACNot to mention when Sophie Aldred was almost electrocuted during the filming of Battlefield due to the water tank being used being totally unsuited for the job.
I remember my college had a copy of the Remembrance Of The Daleks on their video shelf.
Fun Fact: Even back in the day, non-TV Doctor Who media portrayed the Daleks as being able to fly. My dad, an avid reader of the comics back when he was a kid, was VERY pleased when the 2005 revival showed one going up the stairs.
"They could always do that, people used to joke about the stairs, but I KNEW they could fly..."
Hell hath no smugness like a vindicated nerd.
Happy Thanksgiving Linkara! This is a perfect video for Doctor Who's 60th Anniversary this month.
Today is the sixtieth
Happy thanksgiving and happy 60th anniversary to the biggest doctor who fan I know.
"Did we do good?"
"Time will tell"
*CUT TO THE GREAT TIME WAR* (Most fans see Rememberance as one of the inciting incidents of the great time war.)
Remembrance and Genesis I think are the first two moves in the Time War
fairly certain that the two biggest Causes for the time war were the first doctor episodes of the daleks Because without that they would probably stay in their bunkers
And the chase where the freaking pepper pots get time travel
5, 6, 7, 8.... There's Linkara at the gate....
“9, 10… you’re going down again.”
Is that the right line?
I would be remised if I didn't mention Mike's actor Dursley McLinden and the fact he and this story were a major inspiration on Russell T Davies's 'It's a Sin' (the story being referenced in Episode 4).
Thank you linkara I’m now watching this episode on tubi for the first time
That DW-esque title sequence is a work of beauty!
And now to show this to Matthew Toffolo’s brother just so he can say ‘That costume is wrong for this, this and this’.
I understood that reference.
I don’t get the reference
I didn't. Explain please!
@kitestar Matthew Toffolo is 'Batmanmarch' on UA-cam and is a massive 'Doctor Who' fan and hosts a DW podcast called 'The Review of Death'. His brother Jonathan is a big Sylvester McCoy fan and has a funny habit of being very nitpicky on 7th Doctor costumes.
those guys suck
Just about to watch this and my dad stopped me to make me watch the episode first. Guess it's a Doctor Who night now!
38:28 I'd say it seems hilariously easy to blind them by obstructing their eyestalks but I then I remembered when Will tried using a paintball gun and the dalek just _melted_ the paint off: "MY VISION IS *_NOT_* IMPAIRED"
Love, love, love this story. Sylvester wasn't my first doctor (that would be Tom Baker) but when I saw him, he quickly became my favorite classic doctor.
One thing I will say about the Cartmel (sp?) Masterplan is that the idea of an important founding member of a society growing to be it's greatest rebel sounds like it does have a lot of interesting story prospects. On the other hand, I think I agree with you that we don't have to have answers for everything, and sometimes it's better without them.
After The Timeless Child retcon, I agree.
Maybe it’d be better if that was a part of a different show from the start of it.
Shoutout to the Gameshow Reviewer for that amazing intro sequence!
Btw, this is my favorite classic who story and the 7th Doctor is my favorite classic Doctor
Actually credit for the intro goes to Zeroryoko999!
@@AT4W For the musical score, yes, but weren't the visuals done by TGR? Either way, props to both of them for their amazing work!
@@keyblademasterclark Nope, it was me. Logo and Music.
@@zeroryoko999 In that case, well done! Definitely felt like something you'd see in Classic Who
@@zeroryoko999 In that case, well done! Definitely felt like something you'd see in Classic Who
“That’s not a transmat. This is a transmat!”
OK EVERYONE, LINKARA WINS THE INTERNET, PACK IT UP, TIME TO GO HOME
ETA: I am an extremely casual Dr. Who fan but DAMN I love the Dr. Who-ified AT4W intro! Gets me frickin pumped ^^
A Dr Who episode just in time for Thanksgiving after the Doctor just got done erasing Rick Sanchez from existence.
Ace and the 7th Doctor are my favorite as well. I also agree that the Doctor works best when there’s mystery about the character, and when they try to answer those mysteries it doesn’t seem to work. Anyway, even though I haven’t seen these episodes in awhile, it’s still one of my favorite stories.
I tend to feel that the last two seasons of Classic Who were the biggest influence on New Who. The Doctor being darker and manipulative, more focus on the companions and their own back stories, more frenetic pacing, and improved effects.
I also feel at times that a lot of early big finish felt like a prototype version of modern doctor who aswell so throw that in there
Which made me remember when Nash from Radio dead air did Doctor Who videos a long time ago, he made a list of classic serials for new Who fans to watch that tied into what the series was doing currently. And in that video, he pointed out that Remembrance would be one of the serials that would be one the easiest for a new Who fan to get into, precisely because it felt like a story new Who could do today.
A lot of the New Who writers actually did write for Big Finish, so that makes sense.
Ace is also my favorite classic era companion. This story and "The Curse of Fenric" from the following year are the reasons why.
These were actually the only episodes of Classic Who I own on DVD (Mostly because this was before they did season sets for them.) Appropriately because you mentioned this was your favorite episode set in your first Doctor Who review. So thanks for that, Lewis. Also, happy thanksgiving.
I like that you dressed up as one of your favorite doctors, because it's not that off from what your character usually wears.
Making the Ace baseball bat scene even better? That one scene inspired the Crowning Moment of Awesome page on Tvtropes.
"I'm not saying Ace would have single-handedly ended the time war if she was there" LINKARA, YOU FOOL, she WAS in the Time War, Big Finish's Galifrey Sub-Series on the Time War has here in there!
31:37 The Answer to that besides the Prop gun not working: Imprvovised line.
Sometimes writers and directors need something that closes off a scene and come to find out day of shooting that something is missing to close out the scene
As for the serial: got on DVD.
Irony you mentioned Rick of Rick and Morty in a Doctor Who review this week
One could argue that The Hand of Omega did end up in the wrong hands at the end. Especially if the Time Lords used it in the time war. The war caused so much destruction that the Time Lords are just as bad as the Daleks were. It would have been better if the doctor just destroyed it or kept it himself.
I will argue that the best cliffhanger in the series is the end of Episode 1 of Earthshock, however this comes a close second. (Incidentally my two favourite stories)
5:01 It's true, he doesn't dress like a clown anymore, instead, going by your cosplay, he dresses like the Riddler.
Apparently, some of the first Sylvester McCoy scripts were originally made for the Colin Baker Doctor, as the transition happened during a BBC strike.
Happy 60th anniversary, whovians.
Also, Happy Thanksgiving!! 🦃
In all the multiverse one of the universes I'd like to visit is the one where Linkara is The Doctor. But with my luck I'd end up in a universe where the only difference is that the letter S looks like a backwards Z.
And all pizzas come with pineapple.
Could be worse, could be the universe where they say "par-ME-ZEE-an"
I would pay good money to see a universe like that.
The fact the Daleks took so long to change in order to be able to handle stairs makes sense when you consider that to have room for improvement would imply they aren't already perfect. By their very nature they would actively resist accepting that anything about them was less than perfection.
Andrew cartmel didnt actually have a whole backstory planned as thoyght recently said only tease the Doctor’s background, retaining the mystery and All he wanted to do [with the “Cartmel Masterplan”] is throw the Doctor back into shadow again and just give hints of what was going on criticized timeless child for all backstiry detail revealed
With schedule slippage like this, I wouldn't be surprised if Linkara does a Christmas video if February. *grabs popcorn* time to watch Linkara talk about my second favorite show
What's your 1st favorite?
Only your second?!
@@DavidRYates-tk2tq Yes is there a problem?
@@ericwhite1942 Supernatural
@@Pikachu2Ash I actually like Supernatural a little bit more than Doctor Who
The Jaimacan guy in the cafe later played Geoffrey in The Fresh Prince and also The 7th Doctor's monolog in that scene is incredible
I lost it at the checkerboard floor board cliff hanger. "STOP! DON'T MOVE" EEEEEEEEEEEOOOORORRROROROOOWWW
I remember watching Nash's reviews of classic Doctor Who and he did a list of classic episodes that were intended for new viewers, this one was number two. Also if it wouldn't take a huge chunk of time that you probably don't have I would like to see a video about your personal favorite Doctor Who episodes both classic and new but again since I know you have various projects going on I understand why you wouldn't be able to right now.
Man lately I'm completely immersed in Doctor Who, between work and now this.
The novelisation of this is excellent. This was a point where Target gave the writers more page count to work with, as well as making more effort to get the original writers to novelise their own stories (or at least writers adept at the eras the stories came from, avoiding the text to page jobs Terrance Dicks was churning out by the early 80’s). Ben Aaronovitch did this one, fleshing out and expanding the characters as well as building out the internal lore with things like document extracts at the start of chapters. Terry Molloy, who played Davros in the TV story, does the audiobook reading and he is brilliant at it. The novelisation was also chosen to represent the Seventh Doctor in the 50th anniversary novel reprint line.
21:16 Geoffrey from "Fresh Prince of Bell-Air!"
Fun fact....a Captain named Mike does have another Who reference when he was dismissed....in INVASION OF THE DINOSAURS, Mike Yates was revealed to be in league with the evil humans, thus the Brigadier let's him leave.
My first doctor was Tom Baker with Genesis Of The Daleks on a rerun when I was I think 5 or 6? I can’t remember all I do remember is when I first rewatched it. I love Tom’s outfit and can say he’s my absolute favourite of all time but seeing McCoy or others involving the Daleks is always good :)
As a Brit, some facts and fun trivia.
1. No, they don't. Far as I understand it, if the army needed help, they'd call in other regiments, call in off-station soldiers or some TROJAN Units. What's a TROJAN Unit? Well, the UK police hasn't used guns on a standised basis since the 1960's and the most your average officer is armed with is a taser. TROJAN is the armed police division and are armed with pistols and carbines.
Unlike America, England doesn't have a massive gun problem since we changed our laws around after the Dunblane Primary School shooting in Scotland where everyone who has a gun needs a license and in most cases, they're outright banned. What happened in Dunblane? Long story short, a fired boy scouts leader walked into a primary school gym and killed 17 and injured 15 before he killed himself. Why was he fired? Because the County Commissioner was worried about "his moral intentions towards boys" after receiving complaints about things like boys being forced to sleep close to him in his van when on trips. In other words, they believed he was a paedophile although he was never charged with any actual crimes. Instead of guns, we have a knife crime problem although shootings do still occasionally happen; especially now our economy has gone to utter shit.
2. The Daleks were created by the late Terry Nation and, due to the terms of their contract, the BBC were essentially licensing out the characters from him which is a major reason why their appearances were often sporadic. He wrote basically all of the classic series Dalek episodes just because the BBC didn't want to have to sit around and wait to possibly get a thumbs down. Nation wouldn't refuse to okay a script if he penned it himself, right? He also got a slice of merchandising sales and this was before the practice of using loopholes and specific wording to screw creators was as common so he made a pretty penny to say the least. When Nation died in 1997, the rights went to the BBC since the contract was only for his life and wouldn't default to his family.
3. In fact, Nation conceptualised a US Dalek spin-off TV series in 1965 but this never went anywhere both due to the BBC suing him and because he realised Doctor Who didn't really exist in the USA. Doctor Who wasn't really a big thing in the USA until the 1996 movie (or at least, not at such a level that a spin-off show would be worth the time and money) so it would be pretty much dead on arrival..
4. Terry Nation is also the creator of Blake's 7 as well as the Cybermen but, mostly due to lessons learnt from the Dalek affair three years earlier, they made sure they held the actual rights to the Cybermen.
5. To expand on that Dalek stairs joke, this was supposed to put the joke to rest since Andrew Carmel (the script editor and Turner's right-hand man) thought it was played out and getting repetitive. This and the Doctor having a proactive role in the story were the first two concepts he had when writing "Nemesis Of The Doctor" whose script became Remembrance. The joke was iconic and a fan favourite though so it didn't really die until "Dalek" in 2006.
6. The Doctor was originally supposed to use the grenade launcher on the Dalek but it was changed to Ace because of his hatred for guns.
7. Coal Hill School became the basis of a 2016 spin-off called Class that was cancelled after one season which equalled only eight episodes due to godawful ratings even in a post-UA-cam world. We're talking under 100k viewers for a brand new episode airing for the first time. Why did it perform so badly? Probably because the concept sounds like fanfiction and the Doctor Who show barely featured Capaldi. It was Doctor Who in location name only that happened to have the Eleventh Doctor occasionally pop up. Add onto that the core series going into a ratings slump around the time as well since Capaldi's era was stagnating and it was a death sentence.
8. The computer is voiced by John Leeson, the voice of K-9, doing a Davros impression. For reference, Davros has had four different actors over time but the one playing him at the time was Terry Molloy.
9. The headmaster is played by Admiral Ozzel from The Empire Strikes Back. The casting was an in-joke on the fact that the late Michael Sheard was most well known in the UK as Maurice Bronson on the children's show Grange Hill which ran for a concurrent THIRTY YEARS.
#4 is not entirely correct. There was a time when that John Leeson did not play K-9 - during the 79-80 season, where he was voiced by David Brierly.
Others have pointed out that these troops are RAF, and not army, which explains Mike's flying jacket, however, that still leaves us needing an explanation for the rest of his attire being civilian. IMO, Mike is "in mufti", "mufti" being British military slang for civilian clothing, mostly in the context of what is worn off duty, but sometimes associated with personnel going "under cover" for operational reasons.
Why didn't Geoffrey just give Uncle Phil his beloved Lucille? He'd have this whole situation under control in an hour.
Linkara the actress who played the professor actually passed away last month
I think Planet of the Daleks was the earliest Doctor Who story I remember watching. It was repeated in the early 90's. i met Sylvester Mccoy at a con who is a very lovely man and he signed my DVD copy of Rememberence.
34:55 - personally I think the revelation of the Timeless Child should’ve been that they were the Master, it just fits better than having them be the Doctor given how the Master keeps getting killed off ‘for realsies this time, no one could’ve survived that’ so often only to show up again with no explanation (iirc the one time he was called out on it he just handwaved it away with something like “Come now Doctor, the whole universe knows I’m indestructible.” This could’ve then been tied into the Cartmel Master Plan elements that had been put in place by having the Doctor being the one who found the Timeless Child and reverse engineered Regeneration from them (although hopefully with less implications of torture and abuse than what we got).
I don’t see the anti-authoritarian, anti-noninterventionist Doctor being a founding member of Time Lord society necessarily a problem. There’s nothing to say that their society was founded as being authoritarian and isolationist rather than it falling into that over time. In fact, arguably it’d make more sense if the early Time Lords were more pro-active given throughout the series we have gotten the odd mention of them being active in the distant past. As such, there’d be no issue having the Other being like the Doctor and founding Time Lord society.
Probably also worth remembering that the Doctor himself has grown and changed over the regenerations; recall that the very first episode ends with him abducting two people, and later on in the very same serial he would’ve murdered a guy in cold blood if one of said abductees hadn’t been there to stop him. Also, iirc, the First Doctor could at times be a little bit racist and sexist, so he probably wasn’t as far removed from his societies attitudes as later regenerations were. I also don’t think that having the Other be in lockstep with Time Lord society even if it was authoritarian and noninterventionist would necessarily be that bad a thing as it would open up storytelling opportunities for the show to show us how the Other changed over time and became the Doctor. I think the biggest issue though, is that this would need to be planned out in advance (even only as vague bullet points) rather than dropping the reveal with no idea of where to take it and the showrunner just walking away going “eh, that’s the new guy’s problem”.
You know , if you completely ignore the master's character throughout the entirety of classic doctor who and the majority Of the extended universe
How he was literally characterized by the fact that he was dying and only had one life
And ignore the fact that the doctor has essentially been a trickster demigod since the start
Like the master is a character who is actually required to be just another time.Lord because a lot of his problems come from the fact that he is in that special
He's not important.He's not The smartest He's just some egomaniac
So funny thing, for BBC children in need 2023 they showed a doctor who short of Davros presenting the prototype of the dalek, with a little gag of the doctor breaking it and replacing one of it’s appendages with a plunger. Plus the actor who plays a pre mutated Davros was a decent choice and his reaction to the plunger is priceless
... You do realise the actor was Julian Bleach, who has played Davros in every appearance of the modern era, right?
@@bookswithike3256 I did not, no wonder he was a good choice
I was actually thinking about posting the Rick and Morty thing just as you brought it up!
My dad was a huge Doctor Who fan, but I mostly know New Who, with only a few classic episodes under my belt.
A nice quiet scene with the Doctor and a regular person, going over the consequences of his actions and the meaning of the things he does.
With a cafe worker who was the same actor that played the butler on Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
Remembrance of the Daleks is my favorite Seventh Doctor story and favorite Dalek story too.
How do Dalek's pick leaders?
They the one with enough pepper to get the job done but salty enough to exterminate.
:)
Pick
Now I'm curious about your thoughts on The Happiness Patrol. Do you think you can do a review on that in the future?
Also, random question: Which is your favorite Doctor of the original series? And which is one is your favorite in the revival series?
Well, he answered it was the Seventh Doctor overall, and for the modern series given how much he mentions him it's probably the Twelfth Doctor. EDIT, I also apologize for answering your question instead of Linkara.
That’s one thing you have to hand to modern Who: when Davros shows up, it’s treated as a BIG DEAL.
Children in Need notwithstanding. But I’m not opposed to restored Davros.
I'm pretty sure this was my first DW story. I think it was airing on WTTW Chicago around I want to say 2000-ish. DW was a show I had heard about growing up but never bothered to research as a kid. This was still well before the renaissance and the show was still extremely niche nerd shit. And to be honest, it went over my head. Like, I enjoyed the Daleks themselves as the little bastards they are, but the show felt too...specifically British for me to comprehend. It would still take a few years before Who would connect with me, and when it finally did, it took even longer for me to connect with the 7th Doctor. Tom Baker was my ride or die.
Of course, now I realize this is one of the best Who stories of all time. It's fantastic. A great example of how Who can make any budget feel cinematic.
36:14 that's another fun thing about Doctor Who and, honestly, Sci Fi in general; the use of everyday things in prop and set design. Even in New-who there's moments where the Doctor is changing cables around in his Tardis and those cables are just audio jack leads.
A cable is just a cable.No matter what you go wiring is usually the same my thought
Also at certain points and newhood the tardis is literally chronically made out of junk
I don't think the war Doctor and the ninth Doctor actually had different interiors.I think the doctor had just slowly replaced peace after peace over time
Remembrance is the first 7th Doctor story I ever watched, as part of the Doctors Revisited specials they ran back in 2013 for the 50th anniversary. I……didn’t absorb much of it. I was still new to the franchise, only got into it a year before, and was still adapting to how the Classic Era worked. But last year I started a watch through of Classic Who, starting with 7s run start to finish and I loved watching Remembrance. It’s a nice anniversary piece without being a traditional anniversary piece.
The battle computer was voiced by John Leeson, who previously played K-9 in Doctor Who. Leeson was asked to make his voice sound like Davros, to trick viewers into thinking the computer was Davros, so he watched past episodes for reference.
Trivia about the headmaster who was a mind-controlled servant of the Daleks in this episode, he's played by Michael Sheard, best known to UK audiences for playing Deputy Headteacher Maurice Bronson on the popular children's television drama series, Grange Hill, though he's likely best known to international audiences as Admiral Ozzel in Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back.
He actually has a long history with Doctor Who, along with Remembrance of the Daleks he also appeared in the First Doctor story The Ark (1966), the Third Doctor story The Mind of Evil (1971), two Fourth Doctor in stories Pyramids of Mars (1975) (for which he later recorded a DVD commentary) and The Invisible Enemy (1977), and the Fifth Doctor story Castrovalva (1982). He appeared on the Big Finish Eighth Doctor audio adventure, The Stones of Venice. He was a regular guest at both Doctor Who and Star Wars conventions over the years in the U.S. and the UK.
Another interesting tidbit about Sheard that connects his character to the Daleks, Sheard is also known for portraying Adolf Hitler five times in his career: in Rogue Male (1976), The Tomorrow People (1978), The Dirty Dozen: Next Mission (1985), Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989) and the documentary Secret History: Hitler of the Andes (2003).
One of the potential actors who were in the running to play Mike Smith in this episode was Mark McGann, the brother of Paul McGann aka. The Eighth Doctor.
Happy turkey day and doctor who day!
Remembrance for me is easily one of the best Dalek tv stories period, right up there with Power, Genesis, and 9's Dalek story.
It's interesting that you mention Davros being overused when I've seen him all of twice in Nu Who, and both times were for MASSIVE schemes. Goes to show how powerful restraint can be.... which is funny when the Daleks themselves are probably overused.
Though for me, the Daleks will always retain some menace since I was introduced to them through 9. The way even a lone disabled Dalek was treated as a 1 alien force of annihilation. The fear it brought out in The Doctor. Then the anger, the sadism, and hate. It showed for all his whimsy and energy, these things brought out his very worst.
IIRC, there's something in the contract between Terry Nation's estate and the BBC that if they don't use the Daleks a certain number of times per whatever time period the BBC loses the rights to continue using them at all?
@@00andJoe Ah. That would do it. Transformers also has to make sure it uses characters frequently enough to maintain the rights to them. Which is why some recolors and remolds are made. Not necessarily to fill a known demand, but to keep the name in circulaiton.
fun fact the cafe working talking to the Doctor? That Jeffory from Fresh Prince of Bel-Air
And the music track "Dalek Target" you used as an insert for Vyce.
That & the music track "One of Many" from Star Trek TNG
I like to think the 7th Doctor was a chessmaster, it's just that he was always stuck playing speed chess, starting with an incomplete set of pieces on his side, against an opponent with a full set. ...and yet still managed to pull off masterful checkmates against said opponents. He was great at improvising plans as he went along and discovered the enemy's plans bit by bit. Which I frankly find far more impressive than assuming he knows what's going on at all times and is always 5 steps ahead. It doesn't matter if he's playing catch up while you're five steps ahead of him, the Doctor WILL outsmart you.
I hope everyone has a wonderful Thanksgiving this year and thank you Linkara for releasing this
Well the Daleks do have a Parliament. Maybe they choose an Emperor by figuring out which one shouts the loudest
The Big Finish audio story The Davros Mission explains how Davros took over Skaro.
40:34 Huh, did not know the conflicts between the Irish and the modern British (as in, not the Welsh, who were the original Britons the island is named after) go so far into more recent history.
Happy Turkey Day, Linkara. This episode is something else to be thankful for! ^^
Indeed, also happy 60th Anniversary to the good Doctor Who!
Great review, but I feel the need to point out that Andrew Cartmel has gone on record saying that the details of the Masterplan were *never* supposed to be revealed on screen. He wanted it to only ever be hints and teases.
18:12 Have you seen the updated effects on Revelation of the Daleks on DVD and Blu-Ray Disc, Linkara?
A few and they definitely help, but the story itself is just not that great. I suspect they also fix the sound mixing, which was awful in the copy I have.
"tiki torch enthusiast" is such a clever euphemism
A little bit of piracy? Doctor, you wouldn't download a shuttle.
Keff's music sounds like old school Final Fantasy boss music
My husband showed me this four-parter for the first time last night. This was perfect timing and we absolutely had to watch your take now! I like how you summarize episodes, as you catch things I don't.
That van! It's the famous Monty Python Cat Detector Van!
18:35 - Definitely a "pants to be darkened" moment. Also, I recently started watching the 2005 relaunch of Doctor Who, and I really like what I've seen so far, especially the "Dalek" episode, which does a great job showing how much of a threat just one of those tin cans poses. It's a shame they don't give out Oscars for TV shows, though, because Eccleston was absolutely on fire in that episode.
26:03 - "Class is Pain 101. Your instructor's (C)Ace(y Jones)".
You mean Eccleston deserved an Emmy or Golden Globe. He may have at least 1 BAFTA.
Clearly the Dalek Emperor is the one who had the idea to add hoverjets to their casings so they can go up stairs
OMG
Love Linkara's Doctorized intro :)
Ace’s music player would cause issue in Colditz, where it gave the Nazis laser technology and swung the war right in their favour. Fortunately someone from that timeline went back to Colditz Castle and unwittingly prevented the development that created her world.
If he show had continued for one more season, guess she would have been on Galifrey for the time war. Wasnt the plan for her departure to basically be her going to the time lord academy
Happy Thanksgiving, and Happy TARDIS Day!! I have fond memories of this serial. Hell, how could I have not loved Ace, she was so badass! As a young lass that mostly had male heroes, the screaming of most of the female companions got old pretty fast.