The MAC and PC of Cab Sims | Captor X vs Ox Box | Gear Corner
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
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The Captor X offers a lot for it's price. But can it keep up with the OX BOX?
Let's find it out. One thing is sure: these two units remind me a lot of Macs and PCs to be honest... :)
-My OX Box video:
• OX BOX vs CAB WITH MIC...
-Two Notes Captor X video (Thomann's Guitars and basses channel):
• Two Notes NAMM 2020 | ...
Check out the Captor X and the OX Box for yourself here:
-Two Notes Captor X:
bit.ly/33FPfcW
-Universal Audio OX BOX:
bit.ly/2IyOeuj
The Captor X in this video has been sponsored by Two Notes.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction | Playing | Captor x + OX Box
01:32 Why MAC and PC ???
02:10 Playing - strat | OX + Captor X
02:43 Strengths of the Captor X: Twin Tracker
04:01 Captor X: Stereo experience
04:49 Captor X: Room and Reverb
05:58 Captor X: Impulse Responses
06:43 Captor X: App runs on phones
07:29 Playing P90 | Captor X
07:57 Captor X: Updates and registration
09:03 Captor X: Mic placement
09:53 Playing tele | Captor X
10:10 Captor X: Best Headphones sound
10:30 Captor X: Bass cabs and mics
10:52 Captor X: Price
11:03 Playing Les Paul | Captor X
11:14 Captor X: Tweaking on the fly
11:48 Captor X: Noise Gate
12:12 Captor X: It does MIDI
12:33 Strengths of the OX: Panning the mics
13:26 OX: multiple EQ
14:19 Playing tele | Captor X
14:31 OX: The Effects | Compressor, Reverb, Delay, master EQ
15:05 Playing OX | Stereo sound + 1176 Compressor
16:12 OX: The Software User Experience
16:56 OX: Amp and Cab compatibility | Ohms
17:15 OX: Power switch :)
17:47 THE SOUND | WHICH ONE IS BETTER?
18:02 Playing Les Paul | Captor X + OX Box
19:21 Playing tele | 3 Cabs in the Captor X
20:35 What about the Attenuation?
21:33 Attenuation Test with a Room Mic
23:14 Let's sum everything up | Which is better?
Gear used in this video:
-Fender Telecaster Custom Shop '53 reissue
(a similar custom shop tele: bit.ly/2KFVJld)
-Gibson Les Paul Custom Shop '58 reissue bit.ly/2FxKvek
-Gibson Les Paul CM 2015 - heavily modified (thin nitro refin; Lollar Dog Ear P90; Emerson electronics)
-Barocsi "Frankenstrat" (2000 Fender American Standard body + Warmoth neck)
-Carl Martin Panama: bit.ly/2VsuePB
-Coppersound Foxcatcher: coppersoundpedals.com/
-Tate FX Antares overdrive: www.tatefx.co.uk/
-REVV Dynamis 7/40 head: bit.ly/2IxwoId
-One Control Agamidae switcher: bit.ly/2YZgiib
-Ernie Ball cables and strap: bit.ly/2Io0dfg
-Cordial CRI series cables: bit.ly/2XiVLBR
-Evidence Audio patch cables: bit.ly/2Ixylo1
-Palmer 1x12 cab bit.ly/2YD1DHa
Other gear I use in my videos:
-Harley Benton Fusion-II Roasted SSP bit.ly/31FVawf
-Barocsi Troublecaster - Custom built T-style guitar with Gretsch Filtertrons
-Supro Tremolo: bit.ly/2Zpxn75
-REVV G3: bit.ly/2FvuANy
-REVV G4: bit.ly/2ZhxX39
-Analogman King of Tone: www.analogman.com/
-Tate FX Raise the Dead Germanium: www.tatefx.co.uk/
-Source Audio Nemesis delay: bit.ly/2Dft6Gd
-Dunlop Gypsy Fuzz pedal: bit.ly/2VKw4K0
-Morgan 1x12 cab Twilight: bit.ly/2KFihDq
-NUX SOS Looper bit.ly/31TMxPx
The speech mic:
-SENNHEISER MKH 416: bit.ly/2w1EAMP
Audio Interface:
-Audient iD44: bit.ly/2Jo73zN
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Kris Barocsi
Thanks Kris, great video. I actually just bought a Captor X. For bedroom rockers and occasional gigging this is an incredible box for the price! Very happy with it!
Awesome video as ever Kris! So much cool gear out there at the moment and the Two Notes is amazing value 😀
Very fair review Kris. Unbiased opinion and clear points on features relevant to practical use live and in the studio.
This was a great comparison of these two products. Thanks
Dude, thanks for all the hard work with this video. I find it very helpful.
Excellent! I’ve had the Captor X since they came out, I preordered that bad boy lol this just reinforced what I already thought and it was a great honest video. I mean it’s half the price, and it’s AMAZING. Thanks!
Best comparison review of these two on the internet! Keep'em coming!
Thanks a lot!!
Really nice comparison Kris. I already have a Captor X and love, but I sure would like to try the OX as well.
Great Video! Just what I needed! Thanks Kris! 👍👍
just what I needed. Thanks for the video!
This has been so helpful thank you Kris
The Captor X is the choice for me. The size of the thing compared to what it does is insane. I would consider taking the Captor X to a gig, where as i see the OX Box only as a studio thing! Either way, both the OX and the Captor X is amazing products, and they both shine at what they do!
Speaking of shining at what they do, wonderful video Kris!
Although I want to love the captor THE single most important thing to me is the sound. The OX is the clear winner in this department.
Im really loving your playing
Great perspective, nice honest approach.
Thank you! 🙏
I just got through HOURS of loadbox reviews. This is by far the best. GREAT JOB! But... On EVERY example to my ears, the ox sounds just way better... as much as I would like to prefer the Captor, damn it.
i agree, the ox is so warm and real life like. i'd still like to see if the captor could be tweeked to sound warmer, there's lots to work with inside it. but, the captor does cut, for live use, probably more usable. and that's my main desire is to find the best live unit.
@@MRxr400 I now had both devices and checked them out thoroughly. You can make the Captor sound as good as the ox, if you are using 3rd party IRs and NOT the internal stuff. I use packs from valhallir.at and if you take your time it is really worth it. I also compared to a Boss Wazaa TAE and it does not stand a chance.
But my setup now is a captor (no x) and I am doing the IRs in the Torpedo plugin or the IR loader in Ableton live. The Captor is analog, so I have one less AD/DA Conversion.
Damn it, I would get the OX again for ease of use if the wifi connection was stable...
And also, the build in analog Speaker sim in the Captor is good enough for live use ;)
@@berndkiltz when you say it doesn't stand a chance, do you mean the Boss was a lot better, or the other way around? I'm considering these two at the moment, so would be really interested to hear your thoughts
Don’t forget… the Ox is now almost “3 times” the cost of the Captor X.
But, is it “3 times” better ? My personal opinion = no.
And captor is built like a brick and seems gig worthy. The Ox, gets a big no.
I’ve had the Ox and weighed the options. In a mix you’d be extremely sensitive to hear much difference at all, and that was the biggest difference too me, along with the features, price, etc. the Captor wins on all counts in my book and sits on y recording desk waiting to do it’s thing whenever I need stellar tones for a song.
For me, it’s almost perfect.
Best! ✌🏼
Great comparison! I'm super glad I bought the Captor X some months ago. Was still wondering if the Ox is that better considering the price, but seems like you can tweak the X to match the advantages of the Ox! :)
OX Box wins in this comparison to my ears. I have been mixing amps in my studio live room for 20+ years using a wide array of techniques and approaches and the OX Box has that familiar live room Mojo. Easy pick for my ears.
Agreed
THANKS FOR THE REVIEW! I've been researching for a couple weeks now and I needed to hear from someone who is picky like me. Many people like the OX but I'm going Two Notes. I really liked the shimmering sound, stereotypes, headphones sound and the attenuation.
Right on man, thanks and have fun with the Captor X. Make sure to get the Victory Copper closed 2x12 cab sim with the classic mic set. It’s insane. I’m exclusively using that since I got it (which was after this video unfortunately). Check out my newer videos for that cab sim. You‘ll see in the description box under every video where I‘ve been using the OX and where the Captor X. Cheers
The OX €1399,00 the Captor X €519,00 then the choice is quickly made, especially when you hear the differences. In my opinion, you only use the OX in the studio, you use the Captor in the studio and live, the Captor much more handy and the Twins sound absolutely great. And the fact that you can also use the Captor X software on your iPhone is a must. If you see the price difference, then you really don't have to think about it for long, for me the Captor X is absolutely great and for me the number one!!!
Dear Kris, I’ve subscribed today to your channel and already seen 4-5 videos!! very nice and useful subjects in your tube!!!! thanks a lot!!!
Thank you Alessandro!! Welcome dude, enjoy the videos. 😁
@@KrisBarocsi thankssss!! I try again with m’y question... I would have a question: if I don’t need to record myself or produce songs...but I just want to obtain the best tone from my tube amps via the OX or the X...can I avoid using sound board...pc...studio monitor and use for home playing and small venue gigs a configuration like that?
tube amp head into captor X (or OX) into a PA speaker? if so...would the result be as good as what I am listening in your video? at any volume I guess?
and now the final question: if this set up is viable...which PA speakers would you suggest? thanks a lot in advance for your help!
Hey, unfortunately I have zero experience with PA speakers. It will work for sure but I can't tell you which of them will sound any good for guitar. To be honest, good sounding small active PA speakers will cost you at least as much as for example the Presonus Eris 5 studio monitors. These sound fantastic, don't cost a lot and you don't really need an audio interface for them if you don't want to record yourself. Just plug the OX / Captor X straight into the Eris 5 monitors with the fitting cable and set the volume as you like. For more comfort you can put a tiny Behringer mixer between the OX and the speakers. But you don't necessarily need that. You only need a cell phone / ipad / computer to tweak the chosen load box.
If you prefer having a small PA system I'm sure you'll find infos in forums, written by players with experience. As told, I can't help you with that, sorry.
Cheers
@@KrisBarocsi thanks à lot!!! really appreciate your advice!!! i will check also small studio monitor as a solution!!
I gotta say the two notes gets my vote i like the almost limitless personalization it provides. the limited impedance isn’t that important for a bedroom/ basement rocker, as for a studio my choice would be get both (or all of em just Incase)
Wow, great playing, open minded, non-biased review and obviously a ton of knowledge. Many thanks!
Thanks so much! 👍
Thank you for this . I have both units
Ha, I'm a Mac guy and have the Ox. My good buddy is getting the Captor X. Someday we'll do our own side by side comparo. Nice review.
Excellent video my friend. Hope you’re staying safe and are well. All love brother!!!
Albus. Band I’m doing good man, thanks! Stay safe buddy and thanks for the comment!
I don’t even care for cab sims... I’m just here to watch and hear you play! 🤘🏻
I've been using a Torpedo Live for a few years and love it. No brainer for me to choose the Captor X for my second load box/cab sim/etc. At twice the price, the Ox is maybe a tiny bit warmer as said below? I don't really hear it. Personally, it's one of those micro differences I won't miss...gotten lot's of compliments on tone with the Torpedo Live...assuming the Captor X is pretty much the same tech if not better.
Very nice demo!
Could you provide us with a general idea of your setup? Are you using your studio monitors for playback?
Are we able to change room, reverb, and other parameters through your amps cab too, or is it all through your playback system, monitors, etc.
I actually have a Captor X, but I’ve yet to spend hardly anytime with it yet. I got as far as loading the apps on my iPad for control and registered and setup apps on my Mac.
I won’t be home for another week and Ihave so many questions that the manual doesn’t really cover that well…
I guess I’ll figure it out, but I was sure hoping you could provide some info on your gear setup and your workflow?
Great video and I’ll be watching a few more times to get as much as I can from your terrific demo.
Best! ✌🏼
Great video and presentation of both units. Been doing research on the Ox for awhile now and all indications are the attenuator function is probably it's worst feature (in terms of how it degrades the sound).
For someone looking to get into semi-professional home studio production, can I assume the Ox has a bit more bite in that area where the Captor X is a more overall better bang for the buck in terms of picking up the guitar and jamming ?
Great review and I bought a Captor X as a result. I'm sold! I could be wrong, but I was able to use one mic to my right channel and one mic to my left, sending two outs of the Captor X to the DAW. Was I mistaken?
that twin tracker really sounds great!
If you want to do Twin Tracker, record two channels in mono, then go to the timeline and move one of them 2ms or so and it will do the job :)
Perfect video!
Even if I'm french and had dinner with Guillaume (lovely, generous person) my ears prefer the Ox.
The long one, was a very good one 😉, thanks Kris yet again!
Both seem very nice as from your video. Taking a deep look into my wallet, i'd decide for the torpedo. Speaking prices, just out of curiosity: why aren't you naming prices in your videos? Greetz Vik
I've found the cabs that come with the Captor X are either very harsh/spikey or dull. I've added the Orange, Laney and Victory cabs from two-notes store and it's soooo much better than the built in ones. Fits nicely with your Mac/PC analogy in that you can get it to sound good but it takes a bit of tweaking, very much like a PC. Also what you mentioned about the splitting the mics on the OX, you can set the captor X to dual mono and do the same thing.
Thanks for this video I just bought the Captor X... Best investment I ever made as a gigging musician. Does everything I need plus more than I ever thought imaginable.
Since I already have the Audient Sono with Two Notes .... So, two notes ..... Yeaaaayyyyyy✌️
Brilliant , thanks ,,, Cpt x for me will be
Hello Kris.. very nice video.. I'm very interested in a device with IR built-in to use it with headphones at home to study... I've understood that you really enjoy the captor X for headphones sound quality.. but what do you think comparing Captor X and Suhr reactive load IR? I've seen that almost all comments to this video are focused on IR simulation quality (but you've clarified many times that better IR could be purchased or 'tuned' for every labeled device..) while in my opinion the most relevant behavior is the 'dynamic response' of a loadbox simulating real speakers.. sensitivity to musician touch.. something that we can't listen by demos but it's something that you can feel under your fingers when play guitar and listen by ears while using the device. In my opinion I would to buy the best 'realistic' device under fingers (not the best sounding in terms of frequencies.. because that could be tuned) and the best device listening it by headphones. Thank you very much! 🙏
That was a great comparison video Kris, these are both great products, i think with the price UA are charging they should of added a lot more of the simple features like IR loader and i think the attenuation could be better. Good job buddy.
Thanks!!!!
Ox sounds better to me. More natural or something. Some weird midrange hollow thing with the Captor X.
I love the sound of the OX … but I wish UA would pay attention to it. It has been over two years since the last update and the hardware interfacing and WiFi problems linger.
Oh... Captor X is so tempting with those options and the price, but (at least in this review) with Ox Box there is something great in tone that I don't hear with Captor :(
I think for me,the best feature of the OX are those stereo room mics……and the plate reverb….I absolutely hate the attenuator….I ended up going with a Fryette PS-100 and a Two Notes CabM+ for IR’s……like anything else,the IR’s make a huge difference..I didn’t like ANY of the stock IR’s in the Two Notes,but I put some Ownhammer IR’s in it,and it sounds great.…..Both of these are great boxes though…it’s amazing to have all these choices now..
This is a tough decision I'll have to make, but I'm mostly buying one for the attenuation. I'm leaning Ox but idk.
My conclusion after watching several comparisons of these devices: The OX sounds warm and analogue, just right. The Captor X on the other hand artificial, harsh and fuzzy (just listen to the comparison starting at 18:02 ) . And that's all that counts, at least for me.
Been watching a lot of them too and I totally agree. Most UA-camrs got paid for either review (or given the device) but you can hear it on every video. I would really like to prefer the captor because it is small and inexpensive, but the ox is just sounding way better!
Will do my own test in person when the captor arrives, hopefully next week.
@@berndkiltz Ich hatte auch gehofft, dass der Captor mithalten kann und habe nicht damit gerechnet, dass (zumindest in den Videos) so deutliche Unterschiede zu hören sind.
Bin gespannt auf dein Fazit nach dem Test!
@@BlackSeries_ Meine Captor müsste die Tage kommen - OX box und Boss TAE verpacke ich gerade zum zurückschicken. Video dazu mogen 1900 auf meinem Channel.
Meine Theorie: Captor X Line out in meinen AxeFX, von dem dann die Speakersim nehmen, sollte geiler klingen. Hoffen wirs mal :)
during that part of the clip, looks like Ox is using a 2x12 Cab and the Captor X using one of Kris' 1x12 IRs. so, that would be the source of at least some of the tone difference. I have to imagine the CaptorX can be tweaked warmer when needed.
Here I am
still using just a cable between mu guitar and amp
I really like your attention to details. Definitely I will go back to this video if I'll be buying one of these magic boxes
Artur Brzozowski Thanks Artur! Cheers
The Torpedo X sounds way more "digital" to me... a good alternative to it in its pricerange would probably be the Suhr Reactive I.R.
I dont't need hunderts of possible sound settings (my AMP should produce the sound I want, not the (simply said) the LOAD). If I have 1-3 very good sounding settings, I would be more than happy.
Fantastic video and best on these two great products. Being only a home guitarist how would captor x compare to a neural dsp Plini or Nolly?
mikeyjhn Hey, thanks! It’s mainly a preference thing. The Captor X allows you to use your tube amp at home and the plugins allow you to avoid using amps. So if you have an amp you love, the Captor is awesome together with it. If you don’t have an amp you like, the plugins are the simpler solution and cheaper too.
@@KrisBarocsi Thank you so much for taking the time to reply I really appreciate it and your sage advice. Love your playing and videos!
I would have a question: if I don’t need to record myself or produce songs...but I just want to obtain the best tone from my tube amps via the OX or the X...can I avoid using sound board...pc...studio monitor and use for home playing and small venue gigs a configuration like that? tube amp head into captor X (or OX) into a PA speaker? if so...would the result be as good as what I am listening in your video? at any volume I guess? and now the final question: if this set up is viable...which PA speakers would you suggest? thanks a lot in advance for your help!
Interesting video, but when it comes down to parting with the money I would rather two MD421s and a 121. The two 421s would do a lot of good for me and the 121, I’m not worthy. They’re awesome.
I owned the X and the Ox.. Sold both and now want the Ox back.
The Ox is Super Simple to use. If you wanna spend less time messing with settings and eqs and all that, The OX is perfect. The Ox to me, Sounded more natural and warm. The attenuator wasnt that great on the OX but it worked. Just so many good, easy, warm sounding features on the OX.
So why did i sell it? because i was a idiot and believing all the hype about these Two Notes products. So i buy a Captor X.
The X just seemed like i was playing with EQs and settings more than playing. It was hard to make it sound "natural" with higher gain rock tones, The attenuator didnt really offer much but it did work. I like the smaller foot print BUT no on/off switch? so you have to unplug it when not in use which is annoying.
The X may have a TON more cabs but who really needs all them cabs? I would take 5 great sounding cabs over 100 crappy sounding cabs any day.
I absolutely agree with you on the OX being absolutely fantastic. About the Captor X though... These cab simulator load boxes will always sound as good as the simulations are. The stock cabs in the Captor X are really not bad but you have to tweak them. I just got a Victory Copper 2x12 simulation for my Captor and I stopped tweaking it. That’s always a good sign. Haha! Now I’m at a point were it’s pretty much impossible to tell the difference between the OX and the Captor X (with this Victory cab sim).
As a last point: I agree (again) that the OX will make you tweak less right “out of the box “. That’s a legit argument. But it has to be said: you can get to the same result with something like the Captor too. Cheers
And eventually you will end up buying a isolation cab because everything else is just a compromise 😉
With the x, you have to go either with some good official cabs, like Mesa or now Victory or with some good known impulse responses. If you're messing with standard or unofficial cabs, then good luck. No wonder you didn't like it
@@maxmustardman298 Catch up.
@@maxmustardman298 I Agree. Nothing like the Real thing. I will take my Fender Princeton miked-up " Anytime " over Anything. Nice to have choices & options. I keep it Old-school and get to playing.
Hello, great video 👍
I would like to know the name of the device that your coffee mug is sitting on top of. The device scrolling the subscribe text. thank you.
Thanks! That’s something my brother in law built and programmed for me. It was an awesome DIY present and it’s one-of-a-kind, sorry. Cheers
I just asked him if he would build one for order. He told its not cheap (material + many hours of work) but for around 200€ he could make one. Let me know if you’re interested. Cheers
I’ve had a cab m and a captor. I sold both of them as the signal was just way too harsh and digital sounding. I would choose exactly the same cabs as my live set up and nothing sounded remotely like what I would have expected. The Ox seems to sound much more natural, but I’m curious if anyone has tried a cab m v the x.....is there much of a difference?
Mr Barocsi, please if you can , doing Boss Waza TAE vs OX vs CapX or simple TAE , your gear demos absolutely best, only what really important, no water, and you really great guitarist (opposite most other guitar youtubers,) and no arrangement.
If you want to do Twin Tracker, record two channels in mono, then go to the timeline and move one of them 2ms or so and it will do the job :) Also, to my hears, the Ox is by far superior sonically. it built for studio work. also the reverb on the Ox is ridiculous. I have the Ox and I have IRs. Ox behave differently on each speaker set. saying that, there is no bad sound. it's all about the mix. For me, I'd take the Ox but only for studio work. If its for a gig (Ox dont have XLR out??? dont bother live unless you do optical which you won't on a stage), Boss Waza Tube Expander. If I am on a budget then most definitely the Captor X. overall price to features to performance then of course the Captor X. the Captor X is not bad sounding, just need EQ work, I just like the way the Ox behave with amps.
The Two Notes has a lot of extra fizz on the sound which I don't like. Did you EQ that fizz in Kris? I thought the OX sounded better but is lacking in many features that the Two Notes offers. I'm still sitting on the fence until someone gets this right and at the right price
Hi Kris! I have finale bought the Captor X and I am really happy! do you have any advise on some good cab packs I can buy on the two notes store? or maybe some nice IRs that you could advise?
or maybe do you have some good preset you have done on the captor X you can share or I can buy from you? thanks in advance! Alessandro
Congrats Alessandro! I can highly recommend the cab sim I‘m using for pretty much everything: the Victory Copper 212 closed simulation with the classic mic set. Super natural sound without long tweaking. Cheers
@@KrisBarocsi thanks a lot! classic or boutique version?
@@Sissiosissio1979 I found the classic to be more versatile and transparent.
@@KrisBarocsi thankssssss
@@KrisBarocsi Thanks Kris...just to be clear, you are stating the CLOSED back...and not the OPEN back, correct?
After listening with headphones during your sound comparison around the 18min mark, I was quite surprised by your comment you don’t think there’s any real difference in sound quality. Maybe it’s just the way it comes across on UA-cam, but in my headphones and to my ears there’s a considerable difference. OX sounds far more natural in the comparison clips to me. So much so, I was instantly turned off the Captor X 🤷♂️ Thanks for the great content again Kris 👍
DJ T Hey, nice to hear from you, good to know you’re doing well. Congrats on your Wilson Tele. :)
It’s important to say, that these two (OX and CaptorX) sound as good as the cab sim is. I‘ve spent weeks and weeks with tweaking the OX until I was happy with this one preset. It’s now as good as it can get for me. I only had a few hours with the Captor X and these are the basic cabs that are unlocked if you buy the unit. They are really nice but surely not the best you can get. Since then I have their new Victory cab simulations and man... the Copper 2x12 closed back simulation is a whole different story. 😁
Kris Barocsi Ok gottcha thanks. Have you also had any GOOD experience with just basic reactive load attenuators. I know the ToneKing amps work well (iron man atten.) as I have an Imperial mkii and Sky King. If you have tried some, did you find anyone is better than another for retaining an amps character and edge of breakup at attenuated volumes? I’m wondering what the best option might be for basic attenuation between a head like Friedman Small Box and cabinet.
The evaluation is a pretty simple one. The OX is a studio workhorse for multi-tracking and has a bit more refined, built in (and proprietary) cab models where the Torpedo X is for the everyday musician with tube amps that needs decent cab options oob, an IR loader, a really good headphone practice option, DI out and some attenuation both at home and at gigs. The OX price will hopefully be offset by paying studio work where the X is an investment for a working musician to be flexible anywhere they play. For those that say "this one sounds better, more natural, etc" listen to Pete Thorn demo anything. He proves that even decent gear can sound incredible with the right approach and some time tuning it all out.
Ox probably giving the same sound but because of fletcher munchies will sound dark. Captor probably bleeding some presence to make up for it. Would be nice to have a presence boost on the ox or something like others have
That’s most probably the case, yes. What matters to me is which sounds more like my rig at stage volume. And that’s hands down the Captor X. The OX with some sort of a presence compensation would be awesome.
@@KrisBarocsi thanks kris. It’s so hard to make a decision with all these great options. I’m glad your channel’s here to help us out
Hey Kris. I bet you know this: Can I connect a 16 Ohm speaker to the 8 Ohm Version of the Captor X? I know there's a 16 Ohm version of the Captor X, I bought the wrong model. I have a Marshall SV20 (which supports both 8 and 16 Ohm), the Captor 8 Ohm. However, the speaker of the Marshall SV112 has 16 Ohms.
Hey, you really shouldn’t do that. Sorry to say this but you might have to swap that Captor X. If you mismatch the impedance you can damage your gear and it won’t even sound right. It’s really important to pay attention to this. Good luck mate!
@@KrisBarocsi thanks Kris for the quick reply. Ok, I hear you. I'll obey the rules of impedance. First I wanted to get the Marshall SV112 cab and replace the speaker with a G12H. Now I'll probably order a Zilla cab. I texted withe the guys and they'll build a cab matching the vintage Marshall style.
They need to make the OX 2.0 1/4 of the size of this one. It’s just way too big, even with a rack to haul around. The first time I played one in person it seems twice the size as it looks in demo videos. I’d even take a 2U rack unit. Space is expensive, and heavy/unwieldy stuff sucks playing out live.
If i could afford an Ox Box i would go with that for its sound quality, but the Captor X is more in my price range and still sounds good.
I can see how the Captor X is more in line with the modern approach. I like it but... I like the Ox Box better. As with most things there are so many choices and sometimes I wonder if we aren't over complicating a glass of water here with all the sound options. KISS? Thanks Kris!
It sucks sorting through Ir's or captures or whatever they are called as well.
Nice review, after watching many other videos of the OX, lots of users talk about how the OX get disconnected all the time from the wifi forcing you to shut down the app, switching off and on the device. That’s a pain in the a** and really cut the flow and the working process. While the Captor X with the bluetooth system is way more stable. So, is true that the OX sounds better, warmer and more real. But in the other hand, having connection problems and being the double of the price, are not small details.
I’d like the Captor X sounds better and has a more 3D reverbs like the OX, because it’s smaller and costs half of the price (just to have the best of both worlds hahahaha)
Maybe for a professional musician, OX is better, I think for a person who likes to enjoy playing guitar at home, wants to record the ideas and play with cool features for a good price, Captor X is the choice.
Is just my opinion!
I am amazed people want wifi in a device like this!
Based on this video, the Ox Box has better or at least wider stereo field, which puts you more into the scene. Apart from that, the Captor X just has more options and flexibility. Maybe Two Notes can improve the algorithms still, or maybe the device just doesn't have the computing power for those Ox Box reverbs.
just use your daw for the stereo field and the reverb.
I was surprised by the comments in the video regarding the "sound in the room" during the attenuation section. The Captor may preserve the "presence" but sounds MUCH smaller on the youtube playback, further away from the original sound - especially noticeable at 20 dB attenuation.
Hey Matt, that has a reason: the OX doesn’t offer an equally loud attenuation setting so I had the choice of setting it way more quiet or a little bit louder than the Captor on it’s -20db setting.
Fact is, the OX really takes away most of the clarity of the guitar tone and the Captor doesn’t. Which makes the attenuated sound of the Captor way more enjoyable and true to the original tone. Does that help? I hope. :)
To my ears the captor x often sounds a bit thinner in the mids and more top end than the ox in almost every demo I’ve watched. However, I still like the sound of both but prefer the sound of the ox for sure… but I don’t have the money for it so it’s the captor x 🤷♂️
Ox sounds MUCH better! Very much befitting the difference in price.
The Captor X sounds quite boxy and "static" in comparison, the Ox wide - huge! - with loads of bottom end and top shimmer and to my ears much more naturally sounding.
Maybe the Captor X will bite and get through better in a mix (untweaked), but I prefer the lively sound of the Ox.
Wow! The sound is all around you, embraces you! What a great and gorgeous device!
There aren’t many instances in youtube demos where I think one sounds infinitely better and can tell which is which while just listening and not watching. The OX simply blows the door off the two notes, a shame its so expensive 😢
I wish they would still support it. Its pretty old at the moment and we have no idea if a new one is coming or we are just stuck with this version with old software. That is what is keeping me from picking up an Ox Box
@@HamHavoc Not sure if UA discontinued the support of the Ox Box. For me it is simply a finished product at the highest level.
The OX sounds better and simple to use. The plate reverb is the best I have ever herd. The master EQ makes it easy to balance your sound. Sound is king! Sorry both don’t compare. Ox is full and realistic. If you don’t hear the sound difference you need to drop your Ax and never play music again because you’re deaf. It’s not really hard to tell it’s night and day.
Being deaf didn't stop Beethoven and look at him go.
And what about the boss Waza tube amp expander?
Never tried it so I can’t say too much about it. I’ve heard good things though. If BOSS decides to send me one over for a test, I’m super happy to check it out and even compare it to its rivals. Cheers
I think there is a huge difference in sound quality.
The OX is just too expensive for the differences to me. Lacking IR loading...
I think what the Ox is doing is much more sophisticated than IRs.
Both look great but knowing myself I prefer something that requires minimal tweaking and sounds good. Ox box wins in that regard
Who is using these with High Gain amps? I have a 5150 III Stealth.
Captor X is more what I am looking for. Bass cabs are not an afterthought!
Right! Who disturbs then neighbors more a 40 watt guitar amp or a 400 cab with 8 10s? I also like to run a bass cab with guitar for hyper clean tones 🤘🏽
Some companies play the features game and some companies just give you what REALLY WORKS.
Haha! I see what you did there. Both can work really good though. Depending on which person you are, you can decide which one is more “yours“. 🙂
@@KrisBarocsi Ha! Yes, well you have to be EVEN in your appraisal. Different demographics really...
Expensive for digital guitar thing...meeeeehhhh....maybe if i run a studio, for now i only trust fractal for my money LOL....
Btw im using two notes captor for my amp and happy with the result, might try the x when it comes to indonesia
And from the comparison the x more in ur face tone than the ox..but still this 2 r good
Shit. I watched this because I was looking to buy the Captor X but the Ox sounded miles better. Although I still dig the features on the Captor X. So confused now
I'm going to be honest, to my ears your sound/tone sounded better & more natural using the OX. Now the price difference is rough.
Haha! Yeah to be honest I’d be really disappointed in the OX if it didn’t sound any more natural and refined with that price tag. 😆 It’s important to say though that I finetuned the Captor X since this video and with the Victory Copper 2x12 cab sim it got really close to the OX‘s sound definition. 🤷♂️
Right, to my ears the OX sounds more present and detailed with better sound localisation... Anyway, as an amateur and hobby guitarist (well playing in the band or two in normal times) I bough the Captor X... 😂
@@staccami With all the problems the OX has had with customer reviews on the hard time it has connecting to your iPad they need to correct that, plus I would like XLR outs on it like the Captor-X
I’ve owned both, sold the Ox… The Two Notes is more versatile, mobile and sounds better in my opinion. Plus it’s so much cheaper.. in the end it’s all subjective anyway.
why do I always like the more expensive gear?
The OX allows you to connect it to your WIFI router so you don't have to connect your computer directly to it
I think they both sound kinda unnatural. Definitely not like a speaker with one or two mics on it.
Nooooo...this s#&t is new to me.
Captor x sounds flat to my ear
I’m completely distracted by your bipolar haircut