My 22 eco 2.7 is loud as fuck without the silencers and the VTA mod. Literally sounds like a diesel truck spooling up now😂 My wife heard me coming through our neighborhood 1/4 mile away👍🏻🤙🏻
Those are NOT turbo silencers, they help spin the incoming air for faster spooling, some dingbact said the are silencers and everyone with a UA-cam channel jumps on it spreading the bs
Yep. I think they actually call them vortex generators. But a lot of people have reported being able to hear the turbos more, and I’ve had no adverse consequences. No doubt less turbulent air flow, while better for efficiency, also decreases NVH, but up to the individual user if the juice is worth the squeeze so to speak. Plus it’s easily 100% reversible.
The hot side compressor is the only place anything matters. If you think swirling inlet air before it hits the cold side wheel does anything you're mistaken.
They do help spool faster, but by STOPPING air rotation, so that the turbulence is eliminated where the intake splits. Otherwise the vortexes from the turbos would travel backwards up to the intake split and then turbulence and resistance would result.
I know some people could never hear theirs. I always could, and can hear them better now. And then the VTA is an obvious difference. But none of it’s meant to be too serious. Just an easy mod for fun. Sorry it didn’t work out for you, but thanks for watching.
I know that some people say they can’t hear their turbos or can only hear them on hard acceleration. I’ve always heard them clearly. Especially now. Im not sure what the difference is.
Sorry. I replied yesterday, but I don’t see it on here now: Correct. If anything you can out a small breather filter on the BOV to keep dirt dobbers and stuff out, but don’t cap it off, otherwise there where be no where for the excess pressure to vent.
I’m probably over thinking this. But….. by unhooking the dump valve to the intake, in my theory it should over all allow cooler intake air by not recirculating and or releasing the hotter pressurized air into the intake. Most likely minimal if any difference, just my thought.
@@GooseAutoWorksit has to be higher it’s inevitable. By design turbo charger air is higher due to running through a mechanical device that uses hot exhaust gases to function. But like I said the difference in the intake would be minimal at best
Hello. So those systems don’t really overlap. My catch cans still collect oil blow by. The plumbing removed from the diverter valve puts it back into the intake pre-throttle body. The lines that carry oil blow by come from the valve cover and crankcase.
Correct. If you do anything, you can put a small breather filter on to keep dirt dobbers out something out, but you don’t want to cap it. Otherwise the excess air pressure can’t vent.
I just did this mod on my 2018 3.5 and removing the “silencers” definitely made the turbos louder but then when I did the blowoff valve mod I can barely hear the whistle now. Did this happen to anybody?
@@GooseAutoWorks I ordered a cap for the other pipe. Just wanted to test it by using tape lol. Maybe that is causing it. Will try it again once I get the correct cap fitting for it.
A small cone filter with metal top makes it sound a lot better than open tube. Trust me I did it today and listened to it both ways. With filter it sounds so much better. Like I said, I used a small filter similar to a cold air intake filter. It spanks !
I did indeed. I thought about that afterwards. I just tuned the truck though so I’ll do a before and after for that or something. Sport mode definitely makes a big difference for acceleration! I like it 😎
So as many have said these are not T silencers they are velocity collars. Also the a T does not recirculate into the intake just for recirculation is slows the rpm of the T bearings as so you don't slam on them. These were designed for stop and go everyday commuting not racing.
@GooseAutoWorks found another vid and a comment that said after '20 they stopped installing them as a cost savings and they are negligible on performance 🤷♂️
I think it’s pretty much the same. The layout may be slightly different, but the method carries over. It doesn’t improve anything per se. It’s more just for fun; to hear the turbos spool better and to get that audible blow off noise. I personally love it and have had zero issues at all since doing the mods.
Not that I’ve noticed really. It’s actually gone up about about half a mile/gallon, but I attribute that to me trying to get better mileage with my driving habits lately.
No. The “silencers” are basically just for NVH. The VTA just makes the diverter valve act as a blow off valve. My fuel economy hasn’t changed at all and it sounds a lot better in my opinion.
I took mine out and unhooked the vta and put a filter on it..nothing really but a cool little pshh when you let off i recommend hole in bottom of intercooler so it can drain or just get a new truck
My 22 eco 2.7 is loud as fuck without the silencers and the VTA mod. Literally sounds like a diesel truck spooling up now😂 My wife heard me coming through our neighborhood 1/4 mile away👍🏻🤙🏻
Yeah I can definitely tell. Not sure why it varies so much from truck to truck or person to person, but I like it 😎
Ya ok Pinocchio
My 2021 2.7 makes great turbo noise as well.
@@tedd7028Nice!🤙🏻
Those are NOT turbo silencers, they help spin the incoming air for faster spooling, some dingbact said the are silencers and everyone with a UA-cam channel jumps on it spreading the bs
Yep. I think they actually call them vortex generators. But a lot of people have reported being able to hear the turbos more, and I’ve had no adverse consequences. No doubt less turbulent air flow, while better for efficiency, also decreases NVH, but up to the individual user if the juice is worth the squeeze so to speak. Plus it’s easily 100% reversible.
The hot side compressor is the only place anything matters. If you think swirling inlet air before it hits the cold side wheel does anything you're mistaken.
They are for nvh and are actually aimed counter the rotation of the turbos. So whatever they call them.
Facts
They do help spool faster, but by STOPPING air rotation, so that the turbulence is eliminated where the intake splits. Otherwise the vortexes from the turbos would travel backwards up to the intake split and then turbulence and resistance would result.
i put mine back in because i didnt notice any sound change
waste of time
I know some people could never hear theirs. I always could, and can hear them better now. And then the VTA is an obvious difference. But none of it’s meant to be too serious. Just an easy mod for fun. Sorry it didn’t work out for you, but thanks for watching.
On my 17' with the 3.5 I coould hear the turbos when towing under boost......my 19' with the 3.5 can't hear a thing.Odd??
I know that some people say they can’t hear their turbos or can only hear them on hard acceleration. I’ve always heard them clearly. Especially now. Im not sure what the difference is.
its because after 2017 ford used bigger turbos that spool slower which is why the newer ones dont whistle
wromg they are indeed bigger turbos but now with elecgronic wastegates if u want real turbo sounds the 11-16 3.5 have the manual wastegates
I can’t hear the turbos on my 19 either. My 22 transit I hear them though. Weird
Did you notice any negative effects on performance
No, not at all. If there is any negative effect, it’s negligible. And the fun turbo noises make up for it anyway lol
So you only cap off the intake side, not the bov? Leave it open correct?
Correct
Sorry. I replied yesterday, but I don’t see it on here now: Correct. If anything you can out a small breather filter on the BOV to keep dirt dobbers and stuff out, but don’t cap it off, otherwise there where be no where for the excess pressure to vent.
What size is the chair tips
They’re 1 ⅛”. I’ve got a link you can use in the video description for some.
I’m probably over thinking this. But….. by unhooking the dump valve to the intake, in my theory it should over all allow cooler intake air by not recirculating and or releasing the hotter pressurized air into the intake. Most likely minimal if any difference, just my thought.
Also just checked my 23’ and it doesn’t have the “silencer” anti vortex things in it
Yeah, maybe. I’m not sure how the charged air temp compares to under hood atmosphere air.
They removed these in ‘21 I believe
@@GooseAutoWorksit has to be higher it’s inevitable. By design turbo charger air is higher due to running through a mechanical device that uses hot exhaust gases to function. But like I said the difference in the intake would be minimal at best
Wrong unless you live in cooler atmospheric areas.
OK how come nobody saying that when you undo the blow off valve you no longer need to buy the oil catch can how come nobody talks about that
Hello. So those systems don’t really overlap. My catch cans still collect oil blow by. The plumbing removed from the diverter valve puts it back into the intake pre-throttle body. The lines that carry oil blow by come from the valve cover and crankcase.
Catch can is for blow by hole in the intercooler or VTA helps with condensation
Mines 2020 did not make a difference at all not louder just add blow off valves from summit racing and it sounds great that worth it
So you only cap off the intake side, not the bov? Leave it open correct?
Correct. If you do anything, you can put a small breather filter on to keep dirt dobbers out something out, but you don’t want to cap it. Otherwise the excess air pressure can’t vent.
I just did this mod on my 2018 3.5 and removing the “silencers” definitely made the turbos louder but then when I did the blowoff valve mod I can barely hear the whistle now. Did this happen to anybody?
You only removed the rigid piping, correct? And did you cap off the hole from the upper area it attached to?
@@GooseAutoWorks I ordered a cap for the other pipe. Just wanted to test it by using tape lol. Maybe that is causing it. Will try it again once I get the correct cap fitting for it.
A small cone filter with metal top makes it sound a lot better than open tube. Trust me I did it today and listened to it both ways. With filter it sounds so much better. Like I said, I used a small filter similar to a cold air intake filter. It spanks !
Like a breather filter? I’m familiar. Now I’m curious. I might have to give it a shot lol. Thanks!
Do you have an example of what you mean?
@CaptainThisShip like this: www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=breather+filter&_sop=12
How do you attach the breather ? Is there some sort of coupler you need ?
Usually it’s just a hose clamp. In this case you’d probably want a breather that would fit over the diverter valve nub.
5:25 you forgot to put the truck in sport mode
I did indeed. I thought about that afterwards. I just tuned the truck though so I’ll do a before and after for that or something. Sport mode definitely makes a big difference for acceleration! I like it 😎
@@GooseAutoWorks Ohhh yesss we love sport mode 🤟🏻
Which model year & ecoboost "generation" were you working on here?? Doesn't look like my 2011 3.5L Eco's engine compartment.
It’s a 2017, so this would be the Gen 2 Ecoboost.
Boomba blow off valve will make her whistle
I’ll check it out.
What's the difference in MPGs before and after mod?
No noticeable change. With my commute and driving style, I’ve averaged right around 17.7 the whole time I’ve owned the truck.
What size where the chairnleg rubbers. The link has multiple sizes to choose from. Thank you in advance.
The 1-⅛” size. Should be the default when the link opens.
@@GooseAutoWorks cool just didn't want to assume.
So as many have said these are not T silencers they are velocity collars. Also the a T does not recirculate into the intake just for recirculation is slows the rpm of the T bearings as so you don't slam on them. These were designed for stop and go everyday commuting not racing.
I have a stock 2015 eco boost platinum. I love the turbo sound
Weird, just doing this mod now on my '21 3.5...and those 2 baffles or whatever arent in my intake tracts...😮
Yeah some of the 14th gens seem to have them and some don’t. I’m not sure if it’s a 2.7 vs 3.5 thing or what.
@GooseAutoWorks found another vid and a comment that said after '20 they stopped installing them as a cost savings and they are negligible on performance 🤷♂️
M@@Smoothy38
i bought a 2023 xlt, there was NO baffle/silencer in the intake when i checked.
They were removed for the 14th Gen from what I understand.
Is all of this the same with the 2018 2.7? Also What all does this improve if anything at all.
I think it’s pretty much the same. The layout may be slightly different, but the method carries over. It doesn’t improve anything per se. It’s more just for fun; to hear the turbos spool better and to get that audible blow off noise. I personally love it and have had zero issues at all since doing the mods.
Any change in Mpg?
Not that I’ve noticed really. It’s actually gone up about about half a mile/gallon, but I attribute that to me trying to get better mileage with my driving habits lately.
are there any disadvantages to removing the “silencer” and VTA system?
No. The “silencers” are basically just for NVH. The VTA just makes the diverter valve act as a blow off valve. My fuel economy hasn’t changed at all and it sounds a lot better in my opinion.
@@GooseAutoWorksdid you confirm this with engineers or something?
I took mine out and unhooked the vta and put a filter on it..nothing really but a cool little pshh when you let off i recommend hole in bottom of intercooler so it can drain or just get a new truck
Yeah more of a fun little thing to do that doesn’t take much time and is next to free. Plus it’s just as easily reversible if you wanted.