Wow! That defence in the first game was amazing! I would love to see a thorough freeze frame analysis of it, the gate placements at the bottom left of the nexus was flawless and deserves more scrutiny, along with the at least 2 perfect (or nearly perfect) baneling denial events.
I'm so glad to see Tempests getting some love. I've always felt they were criminally underused (though, the buff certainly did help). Also, Harstem didn't lose the Papership during Game 2 at all :|
For some reason watching harstem defend in this series reminded me of GiantGrantGames legacy of the void challenge runs. The unit funnels were so good it honestly looked like fighting the AI at some points.
As a protoss player, I have no complaints about this video, I play random a lot as well but generally hate mirror matchups, HOWEVER pvp is a beautiful mess I can hardly look away from! Loved every second of this!
If we get another patch, can we make the Mother Ship a building instead of a unit? Make it like a flying Nexus. Give it a sentry mode and allow overcharge. Be pretty interesting.
been wondering, how do you cast this with the camera movement? Is there like a spectator camera thats also in the replay or is this some kind of automatic camera?
I'm just gonna say it. Tectonic Destabilizers should give you bonus damage against burrowed units. It makes too much sense not to (and I hate Lurkers from what they did to me back in Brood War but that's besides the point).
So you want to make skytoss even more anoying and unbeatable. Why do you make my life worse! Lurker is my favorite unit why do you want to nerf him. If terrans have siege tanks why cant zerg have their equivalent.
@@hivetech4903 I'd be fine with a buff for Zerg too. It just annoy-tickles my brain to think "there is every reason why this tech should give bonus damage considering it's screwing up the ground itself but it doesn't" every time I see it. Honestly could just be, like, 5 bonus damage or something. Not even that much. Besides, if the zerg is making Lurkers against skytoss, then were they really going to win anyway?
Jesus that build timing difference should tell you exactly the difference of caliber between the players in the anti-spoiler series, a 10 second difference is insane considering the game is less than 2 minutes in.
Hey winter do you think you could do a video on how the competitive architecture works for pro StarCraft? Like how to qualify for certain tournaments and how follow each tournament
If only MaxPax went to the World Championship of SC2 in August. He'd probably make it to the top 4 if he could avoid Serral and Reynor in his bracket. MaxPax rarely loses to Korean Terrans since he gets so much practice against Clem.
Bro, what we want is Starcraft 2 from Pros and SC EVO COMPLETE. Not bronze league, not stormgate or other sh111t. You are a great caster, really one of the best. But CAST MORE SC EVO, goddamn!
Honestly don't know why people keep saying carriers are to win the game. Out of all casts I've seen the last month. I don't think carriers was the reason for any wins. Rather the opposite. They are expensive and vulnerable to corruptor stacks flying straight in over them and spreading out a bit. Storms can't hit them now because they would also hit the carriers and interceptors etc. I think carriers are underpowered af. interceptors are expensive too.
Lambo threw that 2nd game so hard. He was about 2 minutes from winning and then lets 2 tempests turn the game around wth? On high Korean level air toss gets consistently slapped down super hard - and that's what Lambo would have needed to do, instead he let Harstem grow his air army. Tja ...
22:15 Get off my creep..... I wish you inserted a Radiohead - Creep reference.... I don't belong here.... Anyways....I will probably upvote and re-watch as long as it's P/T v Z I have no reason for living except watching korean branded sc2 excellence
queens should really do more ground damage. its silly how little they do considering what they look like. are they the only unit that has separate ground and air damage rates?
Watching these two compared to Koreans seems like 'bronze league heroes'. If a Korean toss would lose an oracle after not getting any drones, he'd probably get his passport revoked.
Tempest is infinitely better vs Zerg late game than Carriers. Zerg will never engage into Carriers at pro level, they will just use viper to abduct 1 carrier at a time, and because carrier has shorter range than abduct and are expensive, Zerg will find huge value. Tempest on the other hand out range most unit in the game and can bring massive value for protoss. Tempest does lose to corruptor but the key is you don’t build too many tempest, 6 is enough and you see Lambo cannot commit to more corruptor because Harstem has a big ground army.
Harstem, loosed his best of 3 or won? Why U dont show holly serie best of 3?? I like how good he is. Im subscriber, but finger down for You not show holly serie with Harstem. Max Pax is overratet in my opinion.
I loved to watch hes play, its remembering my old games as a tos in lan offline Broodwar parties my apm was bad but still loots of good memories ;) sc2 is a different game btw, i dont like sc1 vs sc2 now, what next sc2 vs AoE or something other bullshit?
22:29
Winter, after casting thousands of games, forgets his original personality and has his casting consumed by Brenda, even if only for a second.
You either die a caster, or live long enough to unwittingly join the Hive Mind with Brenda and the Knitting Crew™. 😢
The dramatic Diablo 3 music in the background making it even more intense 😂
Not consumed, but possessed by the vengeful spirit of geriatric Brenda
Wow! That defence in the first game was amazing! I would love to see a thorough freeze frame analysis of it, the gate placements at the bottom left of the nexus was flawless and deserves more scrutiny, along with the at least 2 perfect (or nearly perfect) baneling denial events.
That has got to be the best bonus content i have ever seen. Please keep doing this:)
"Grab em by the... remarkably fragile legs." Clever way to phrase that xD
I'm so glad to see Tempests getting some love. I've always felt they were criminally underused (though, the buff certainly did help).
Also, Harstem didn't lose the Papership during Game 2 at all :|
The mothership is basically cheaper than a carrier these days if you factor in the cost of the interceptors. It's totally worth it.
Totally agree. Going full carrier Skytoss feel like a guaranteed way to lose vs high level late game zerg but a sprinkle of Tempests works so well.
@@MattMarshallUK Mass carrier without supporting units is very easy to counter, just build a mass of the unit that is cost effective against it.
4:00 The maxpax tactics are insane, I like that kind of games a little weird but showing innovation
23:23 The protoss called to the skies - and the sky answered! B]
For some reason watching harstem defend in this series reminded me of GiantGrantGames legacy of the void challenge runs. The unit funnels were so good it honestly looked like fighting the AI at some points.
Protoss vs Protoss is my favorite matchup. I love how quick and goofy the matches are. Thanks for the MaxPax games! They're the best!
Thx for making my day a little bit better
"And the mothership tanking it" that's not something you hear, ever :D
That pvp was amazing, please show more of those if you know of some!
Your commentary is truly enjoyable!
🛡️ SPOILER SHIELD
Extra spoiler shield.
@@leafykilledouble extra spoiler shield 🛡️
Cheers brother. Proving comments section doesn’t have to be a cesspool. 🫡
@@chrisR-B like it is a problem of those who write spoilery comment that people who are afraid of spolers look down to check a top comment.
o7
These two are like watching my uncles fight. 😢
I don’t want it to happen but boy it’s fun to watch.
Deep sea creature from harstem sea coming up for a brief glimpse to the sky
"Thrown the saddest fungle of all and dies" made me laugh ngl
Lambo vs Harstem???? What year is this? Tuesday?!? 😂❤
Love these two!!
Considering just yesterday watched Harstem'lambo'scarlet guide to units (recommend) its 2023.
thats some GOUDA starcraft
My day just got a whole lot better!
The last time I was this early only winters forehead was in the room
I was so early on this video that when it came out a few hours ago I hit refresh and it was private again... 0.o lol
I do want to show my appreciation 💜 Thank you Winter! Jimmy, back to work.
Glaives out for Harambo!
Lambo put on a masterclass on commitment to lurkers after Harstem switched to tempests. Lambo loyal af.
Harstem is a genius. This tempest build is prety good imho. Liked a lot
this video has been an amazing end to my day, thanks!
2:16 - i wish we had Harstems face cam
2:15 Charge of the Light Oracle.
the d.va caster moment at 42:35 killed me
when he used harstems intro i smashed the like button
huahusuhem, That is LOKO's introduction, friens, fams and other creatures of the sea
It was invented by Harstem and then copied by Lowko.
Winter used it here because he's casting an Harstem match
26:39 would prefer to see the air battle rather then the ground one
As a protoss player, I have no complaints about this video, I play random a lot as well but generally hate mirror matchups, HOWEVER pvp is a beautiful mess I can hardly look away from! Loved every second of this!
Making us eat our mirror matchup vegetables again Winter? All right, *fine*.
the creatures of the sea love when the captain gets the W
Thank you for the games! I liked them all of course
If we get another patch, can we make the Mother Ship a building instead of a unit? Make it like a flying Nexus. Give it a sentry mode and allow overcharge.
Be pretty interesting.
Jimmy for Winter 🤝 Katie for Civvie11
Faceless, silent gigachamps behind the scenes.
Thank god you dropped today, almost had a aneurism yesterday watching that storm gate video (all love tho ❤😂)
'7-D backgammon' indeed
been wondering, how do you cast this with the camera movement? Is there like a spectator camera thats also in the replay or is this some kind of automatic camera?
I'm just gonna say it. Tectonic Destabilizers should give you bonus damage against burrowed units. It makes too much sense not to (and I hate Lurkers from what they did to me back in Brood War but that's besides the point).
Bro....... thats genius my mind is blown
So you want to make skytoss even more anoying and unbeatable.
Why do you make my life worse!
Lurker is my favorite unit why do you want to nerf him. If terrans have siege tanks why cant zerg have their equivalent.
PvZ is currently 5% Prtooss favored... so that's probably not going to happen unless something else was also changed.
@@hivetech4903 I'd be fine with a buff for Zerg too. It just annoy-tickles my brain to think "there is every reason why this tech should give bonus damage considering it's screwing up the ground itself but it doesn't" every time I see it. Honestly could just be, like, 5 bonus damage or something. Not even that much. Besides, if the zerg is making Lurkers against skytoss, then were they really going to win anyway?
@@thepersonwhocomentz The lurkers are for ground support that sky toss use like HTs or stalkers.
As a new person watching Starcraft, it seems knowing when move away is more important than moving towards in battle...
Jesus that build timing difference should tell you exactly the difference of caliber between the players in the anti-spoiler series, a 10 second difference is insane considering the game is less than 2 minutes in.
Hey winter do you think you could do a video on how the competitive architecture works for pro StarCraft? Like how to qualify for certain tournaments and how follow each tournament
If only MaxPax went to the World Championship of SC2 in August. He'd probably make it to the top 4 if he could avoid Serral and Reynor in his bracket.
MaxPax rarely loses to Korean Terrans since he gets so much practice against Clem.
@WinterStarcraft i don't even play Starcraft, I just watch these casts because your just so darn entertaining - take these likes and subscribes
Bro, what we want is Starcraft 2 from Pros and SC EVO COMPLETE. Not bronze league, not stormgate or other sh111t. You are a great caster, really one of the best. But CAST MORE SC EVO, goddamn!
Giving off insane mark norman vibes today
Thank You
Om nom nom
I miss void rays
47:17 When will that Lichen subscribe :'(
Beautiful
Let's Go Winter 🎉🎉
i get the impression winter listens to AJ show
1183 likes complege xD so DONT WORRY GUYS HE IS GONNA CAST MORE
Tell me, what's the most likely race to win a tournament from best to worse
Oh captain my captain 🫡
...I just now realized it's called 'juggling' because Archons look like balls...
Best into ever!
Honestly don't know why people keep saying carriers are to win the game. Out of all casts I've seen the last month. I don't think carriers was the reason for any wins. Rather the opposite. They are expensive and vulnerable to corruptor stacks flying straight in over them and spreading out a bit. Storms can't hit them now because they would also hit the carriers and interceptors etc.
I think carriers are underpowered af. interceptors are expensive too.
Love Harstem fromages
Winter, you need to warn your lactose-intolerant viewers about that last match! 😷🤒
Sir, you are a national treasure
Lambo threw that 2nd game so hard. He was about 2 minutes from winning and then lets 2 tempests turn the game around wth?
On high Korean level air toss gets consistently slapped down super hard - and that's what Lambo would have needed to do, instead he let Harstem grow his air army. Tja ...
39:35: He was so close! That Pylon goes down and it's over immediately. What a wild ride! xD
Bonus games were way better than the mains!
is jimmy real
Only if you truly believe.
One winter video simply not enough, but overworking jimmy is not an option.
Added my like
harstem is a monster, spawn camping those poor poor lurkers :((
That has got to be some of the bluest, stinkiest cheese I've seen..
I like how MaxPax is so good, even though he won 2:0 in a Bo3, they gave Krystianer another chance.
The casters being cast! How metta :) actually appreciate this cause I find at least one of the other casters quite annoying.
i'm a simple man, i read mass tempest, i click
22:15 Get off my creep..... I wish you inserted a Radiohead - Creep reference.... I don't belong here.... Anyways....I will probably upvote and re-watch as long as it's P/T v Z I have no reason for living except watching korean branded sc2 excellence
**I think i'm on day 15, turns out it was 17 :^3**
Day 17 of asking for my Brenda T-Shirt:
"Get off my CREEP!!!!!!"
Why do they always recall 😭
game 3 of pvp....cybo was faster because Kryst built two gateways
This is not a comment.
This is not a pipe
queens should really do more ground damage. its silly how little they do considering what they look like. are they the only unit that has separate ground and air damage rates?
hey I read a book....... once
Do Toss shields recharge when in a warp prism? If so, they is wildly overpowered
Watching these two compared to Koreans seems like 'bronze league heroes'. If a Korean toss would lose an oracle after not getting any drones, he'd probably get his passport revoked.
You are spewing nonsense. Hero, arguably the best Korean protoss player, loses oracles in exact the same way regularly.
Tempest is infinitely better vs Zerg late game than Carriers. Zerg will never engage into Carriers at pro level, they will just use viper to abduct 1 carrier at a time, and because carrier has shorter range than abduct and are expensive, Zerg will find huge value. Tempest on the other hand out range most unit in the game and can bring massive value for protoss. Tempest does lose to corruptor but the key is you don’t build too many tempest, 6 is enough and you see Lambo cannot commit to more corruptor because Harstem has a big ground army.
Soup 23
11:57... Thank me later
Why does this dude talk like a Trans-Atlantic "ole' sport" from the 20s?
Harstem, loosed his best of 3 or won? Why U dont show holly serie best of 3?? I like how good he is. Im subscriber, but finger down for You not show holly serie with Harstem. Max Pax is overratet in my opinion.
Harstem didn't lose the best if 3, he won 2-0
@@Wwillswords my bad great battle from Harstem, sry my bad, attension for min was bad, It was great to look him at play!
@TheNocebo np, though if I were you, I would edit your comment for spelling. I struggled to understand what you said
I loved to watch hes play, its remembering my old games as a tos in lan offline Broodwar parties my apm was bad but still loots of good memories ;) sc2 is a different game btw, i dont like sc1 vs sc2 now, what next sc2 vs AoE or something other bullshit?
@@Wwillswords sorry im a ''pirate", hope i gonna improve my eng in a future. Mostly i don't use google translator i should improove it. Yes i know.
Rid l sul amm
harstem is an oracal noob 😂
Your jokes are painful.