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Raynor doing GSL is what I wish more non-Koreans would do. Special and Scarlett have attempted it and even though they didn't do particularly well, I give them huge props to come to the GOAT SC Tourney to test their metal Plus I love him on commentary
This set of matches begs the question - How would Serral REALLY do in the GSL format? (Or Clem for that matter?) No one questions that Serral's proven how dominant he is everywhere else. But GSL is a different beast, and watching Reynor get completely demolished here just further proved it. We may never find out, since Serral doesn't seem interested to try, but then that's always gonna remain as a giant glaring hole in his otherwise immaculate resume. Definitely not a foregone conclusion that he would automatically win.
@@troy3423 mechanics is good to have, but preparation will always win you the day. that s why koreans can smoke anyone in any given day when they have time to prepare. they are accustomed to the format where you are given plenty of time to prepare.
GSL is a totally different animal. It's where mechanics, strategy and preparation are at the highest level. On top of that, there are a bunch of mind games. I'd like to see Serral in the GSL.
@@SDanny23 gsl vs the world was a weekend tournament format, also he beat top gsl players on a weekend tournament format. so it IS a DIFFERENCE. there will be difference, such as reynor winning the highest prize pool ever in sc2 history: a weekend-tournament called gamers8(now EWC) [where serral only went ro.8 in that tournament] but getting eliminated immediately in the first group stages of gsl=2022, 2024( today) serral has a high chance to lose to solar, ragnarok, classic, soO, bunny, et cetra, all of whom have beat serral in weekend tournaments. if they prepare, serral would lose more harshly, more brutally get defeated. and there is maru, and if he is in his kingdom, homeground, he would surely beat serral, just like how serral beats maru in his homeground-weekend tournaments.
@@SDanny23 GSL vs the World is a totally different format, its similar to Super Tournament than code S, and we know Protoss win a lots in Super Tournament but doesnt win a thing in code S. And Serral has lost to GSL-type group stage before, especially when he has Zerg in his group. While I dont think he will struggle like Reynor did, implying Serral would win without any question is a bit too untrue.
it really shows how big preparation time makes of a difference, in "random" online tournaments, sure Reynor might struggle vs herO but no way would he loose to Gumiho 0-2, who then continues to loose to soO 1-4...it really shows that, if you give players time to prepare specificially for a opponent, koreans who have practised this format for over a decade now still make even top foreigners look like they are not even supposed to be here, like in the "good old days" :D
@@schlechtgut8349 Yeah yeah., Serral would win in your imaginary world right? He doesnt even dare to try GSL and its for a good reason. Zergs have always been and will always be favoured against T and P in weekend style tourneys. Prep tourneys is the only thing that truly matters. In my world you can win as many weekends you want. Dreamhack here and there. GSL is where the true skill is and its proven today by Raynor not even taking ONE map.
Well, Reynor really struggles now, ended 5th place in esl europe. Just some days ago, sure from korea but still. And he hasent finished Well in the 2 big tourn before that either. Not a good time to go to GSL. Gonna be super intersting to see how much serrals military session Will effect his play
He's talked about it in the past, whenever asked he says it takes too long, it's a big disruption to his life, and it's not worth it (metaphorically and monetarily). He gets asked about it every other month from what I've seen.
@@spasteroneill9636 That's very weak to call someone a coward without doing it yourself. I am not a huge Serral fan, but he got a point there. Just imagine to move for 2 months to another country and work from there without the garantee to even earn money. And that all for a pin for your shirt or proofing a point? That's not worth wasting so much money.
@@Gemraw I'm not saying I could do it, I'm saying Serral can't, and he probably knows it. Stating money and time issues is just an excuse, imo. I think that the GSL is the most prestigious tournament for a reason. Players are given enough time to prepare specifically for their next opponent. So far, Koreans have excelled in that area with no foreigner really coming close to achieving a win in the GSL. If you want to be considered the GOAT in Starcraft (I don't know if Serral aims for that), I think it is hard to justify without competing in and winning a GSL. If Serral is only in it for the money and doesn't care about merit, then I agree, it's probably not worth it for him. Although, as a professional Starcraft player, per definition playing Starcraft is his job, and I see no reason why he shoudn't be able to train and compete in online tournaments while living in Korea for a while. Just saying...
@@Konranjyoutai Most of the important nerf on Zerg was done BEFORE Serral winning at IEM, and during that time Reynor won Gamers8 and Solar won GSL S3 last year. So clearly Zerg didnt suck because of the nerf, although Serral is still the best Zerg in the world.
@@Konranjyoutai Protoss does wonderfully in best of 1s when they can surprise you. However they get dunked on in literally every other format with precious few exceptions.
Ouch, hope Reynor doesn't feel like the GSL is jinxed and gets a mental block from it. It's hard for a casual like me to reconcile the apparent difference in performance in the overseas tournament and in GSL. Serral completely demolished Maru 4-0 in the finals of the last premier tournament and made Zerg look like a brick wall and we all know Reynor can spar with Serral and Clem quite well. Against herO, I wonder if trying to counter attack so much with lings backfired. Against Gumiho, I'm not as surprised because Reynor seems to prefer playing vs bio more where pure mechanics shine. Definitely thought he won the 2nd game and was expecting him to just roach flood with possibly a few infestors to trap the cyclones to prevent mining at the third but maybe that's only viable as a backseat strategy.
Brutal starting matchup for Reynor against arguably one of the top 2-3 Protoss in the World, then he gets Thor-ed by Gumiho. I hope he comes back next season & tries again, and I do hope he does some more casting this season because he's knowledge on the commentary desk is amazing. Kinda sucks that we don't have Special or Scarlett & Reynor got bounced in the first round, having a foreigner make a run is always entertaining especially when they score upsets like Scarlett did beating Maru a few seasons back.
He threw game two. All he had to do was stay back and kill the 3rd base and all the scvs there, then pull back. Instead he ran past the economy and wasted time trying to break through
SPOILER ALERT!!!!!! Reynor trained so hard to play well in GSL and still he didn't make it :/ It's sad. I think he didn't play bad, he just didn't take advantage when he had it. Especially in series against Gumiho. I hope he gets back stronger in next GSL season
her0 prepped perfectly for Reynor. He knew all his run by timings and everything. Reynor just played poorly against Gumiho. Hopefully Reynor gains some more experience and motivation after this. GSL isn't as forgiving when it comes to trying to feel a game out and adapt which is what Reynor is best at. Pre-planned timings on specific maps is to the utmost degree in GSL as we saw soO have more success with as zerg.
Previous time he was overconfident strutting on stage like his going to own the tournament and talking in interview how he has an easy group. This time he certainly took it more seriously. I agree, he seemed to play well, but few wrong decisions is what it takes to loose. Looking back at his previous time he was obviously nervous and it was showing on his units control, this time he played way better in this regard. Tasteless said that GSL is very different in format from ESL tournaments. This is true, but still. It is not like Gumiho or Hero won against Raynor by some mad unexpected preparation. In case of Hero, he was simply better with his macro and army composition. And in case of Gumiho - some very on point decisions made in critical moments of the game. I'd love to see Serral in GSL. But don't think it will ever happen.
Foreigner casters will never talk about Home court advantage. They will never ever want to remember the time when MC, Taeja, MMA, Polt, Bomber were winning all the weekend foreigner tournaments until Blizzard decided to practically ban all Koreans in foreigner tournaments.
2:03:00 If Terran can get to mass BC and has a ground army, it can do that teleporting trick to instakill any capital ship/tier 3 unit army, including mass carrier. Terrans will still whine that zerg is OP though because Serral is the best
Terrans constantly whine while consistently never having a year where they were ever considered under powered. Everyone likes to cry about protoss being op even though they are the least winning race tournament wise. And terrans have been dominating the past few years and before the last patch they had insane buffs to cyclones and widow mines. You will never see Protoss get a patch that improves a single unit they have that much, they'll be like "Here we made void rays a bit faster but also they deal 10% less damage and have 25% less HP"
@@tigera6 I would hate to see Tasteless stop casting GSL in actuality. However, I think State and Reynor have better chemistry than State and Tasteless. It was amazing casting and I would like to see more of it.
I Respect Reynor for trying again. Thank you for being part of GSL. SC 2 has been stronger ever since your participation Don't be sad. we are grateful.
1:54:39 great use of parasitic bomb to stress the multitasking of Terran- trying to swoop the medivacs in close causes them to bunch up & adds additional required ameliorations (splitting)
Game 2 of Reynor vs Gumiho was really decided by upgrades. Gumiho was on 3/3 for his mech while reynor had 1/1 ranged and 0 damage upgrades for the lings and only in the lategame started researching +1 and attackspeed.
Why didn't Reynor try for the base trade in game 2 against Gumiho? Once you're at the opponent's doorstep, you can't turn back with those Broods. Gotta destroy the Terran's base and try to defend with your other forces.
but yeah, I think Reynor wasn't feeling it today, we usually see him bounce on his favorite hip hop but now he did not look that confident, his games vs gumiho were ok but vs herO he looked like the worse player, and it is ashame because it was probably nerves or just being in a not so good state of mind that got to him. I hope we can see a better Reynor next time ♥ That said, I have to also give kudos to the koreans, herO played very well with his micro and early game, gumiho realized when to base trade, etc.
I think Reynor was much more nervous in previous GSL that he played. He was making mistakes that he didn't do today. But something else might have been off, as indeed Hero just crashed him.
@@d4slaimless Reynor mis-read the build and react the wrong way in most of the situation. He didnt make Roach against mass Zealot Archon push, then he try to block the Nexus and fail. Against Gumiho he went for BLord-Corruptor-Infestor against BC-Thors which is a no-no. And then he went Blord again into mass Helion/Cyclone mobility and got countered to death.
@@tigera6 I didn't mean that he didn't make mistakes in general. What i meant is previous time it was things like lings running into the wall of main base with no purpose. Units out of place/position. In this regard he played better. As for his decisions, were not the best, certainly. Infestors could have worked though,
Hero is supper good only not steady, his peak is above every player even when toss is the most unbalanced he can play toe to toe with anyone. Reynor didnt play bad today, its just gumiho dont apply to euro-logic of sc2.
Seems like the koreans really wanted to make a statement to foreigners in general. In true tournament style format, koreans are still premier over the world.
People are always saying Maru is only the greatest GSL player of all time, but I don't see any non-Koreans doing very well in this format. Not convinced Serral is the GOAT. Maybe the best IEM player.
KR Zerg in general has a strong timing against Mech player, they will hit with Queen drop and Roach Ravager, similar to what Reynor did in game 2 but with even sharper timing. KR Terran was playing Mech occasionally and the Zerg players got their prepped build for that. Reynor would almost never play against such build in EU, where most Terran playing Bio.
What is happening in this season? Last group, I see BCs in pro matches, and now swarm hosts? This is giving me hope lol. As well as Creator's playstyle in the last group being very similar to my own protoss gameplay.
They also upload each match as its own video I would also recommend the sponsorblock browser extension, which crowd-sources info about segments of the video and can often help you skip the intermissions between games and stuff
Spoilers!! So sad for Reynor, now 1-8* in GSL. Game 2 was just disgusting. Cant tell if its nervs, or what. But the Early game meta is SO aggressive in Korea, and a lot of his calls while casting and plays he made just didnt work. He called for Broodlords while casting, but they arguably lost him the game chasing Cyclones. Also, maybe HerO was listening when Reynor said EU meta is late Spores for more Queens while casting because he got Oracled to death. Hope he stays around for the next and (possibly again) last GSL season, or gets into casting! Another week of great games! This year of GSL has been 10/10
He is not 0-8. He did win 1 map previous time. Don't think he made exactly bad calls during casting, those were different games, But certainly his plays in his own games didn't work out.
@d4slaimless I never said they were "bad" calls, just that they didn't really fit, EU and KR have different metas. He obviously knows way better then me but - Specifically remember him saying Spores aren't needed just good queen micro, and hero went fast SG both games which did well. But true - he did win 1 vs DRG last time he entered. 1-8 still isn't very convincing for other Foreigners to have a good chance, since Reynor beats 99% of them.
As expected, Reynor played poorly. Surprised casters didn't mention it especially in GM1, very timid and indecisive. I guess something about Korea or the GSL stage?
Could anyone explain to me why Raynor is saying on his stream that you have to go lurker every game against protoss as well as never get banelings because banelings are the worst unit in the game then proceeds to do the opposite of that.
@@tommywatson1527 What are you talking about? Soo just advance , and we still have Dark Rogue Solar yet to play their groups. Unless its Maru or herO, who are stopping the Zerg?
2:05:40 "Weekend format" meme again. You guys realize Reynor is in a foreign country trying to beat a tight knit group at what they do best. The mental edge to the home team is massive.
So, if you make that excuse for foreigners in Korea, same thing should be said for Koreans in EU right? It's so hard to go there and just dominate on someone else's home turf?
@@chir0pter there is no neutral ground is it? And weekend format vs a prep tournament is a big difference. You can't just put your head in the sand and ignore it.
I am very happy about the outcome but I do feel for Reynor getting 0-4'd and playing by far the worst of all the players in each game. Still far more happy for Soo to finally get past the round of 16
He was better than Gumiho. Terran won those games because Zerg has been nerfed to the ground thanks to the "balances" around Serral's dominating performances.
@@OnigoroshiZero then how did Soo 4-1Gumiho on the very same day? Its pretty stupid to just blame Zerg nerf everytime Zerg player lost. Solar 4-1 Gumiho in the GSL Final last year, with the same patch minus the slight Infestor nerf, Reynor was outplayed, deal with it.
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Raynor doing GSL is what I wish more non-Koreans would do. Special and Scarlett have attempted it and even though they didn't do particularly well, I give them huge props to come to the GOAT SC Tourney to test their metal
Plus I love him on commentary
wrrr
serral is a coward he's not coming
The Korean Pilgrimage.
@@JKnksrsly Serral is not a real SC2 fan otherwise he'd feel compelled to try and win the GSL just on principle
her0 was so prepared for Reynor. Take another level of prep to do well in GSL.
Nah, zerg is super under powered now. It's obvious now.
@@tommywatson1527 Nah, Soo beat Gumiho and Gumiho beat Reynor. Reynor is just not prepared.
@@tommywatson1527 LOL yeah so obvious in fact that a "super under powered" Zerg knocked Gumiho's Terran out of GSL. It just wasn't Reynor. Nice logic.
@Devillionaire just look at all the zeros take big Ls since the patch. Esl and gsl. All the zergs ain't prepared?
@@tommywatson1527oh no patch zergs need adapt like others
This set of matches begs the question - How would Serral REALLY do in the GSL format? (Or Clem for that matter?) No one questions that Serral's proven how dominant he is everywhere else. But GSL is a different beast, and watching Reynor get completely demolished here just further proved it. We may never find out, since Serral doesn't seem interested to try, but then that's always gonna remain as a giant glaring hole in his otherwise immaculate resume. Definitely not a foregone conclusion that he would automatically win.
You can’t be the goat if you’ve never won the hardest tournament
Serral would run through all of them. His mechanics and decision making are on another level
this is a key point.
@@troy3423 mechanics is good to have, but preparation will always win you the day. that s why koreans can smoke anyone in any given day when they have time to prepare. they are accustomed to the format where you are given plenty of time to prepare.
Very well said!
Raynor cast last group excellently. Hope we get his commentary more as has very good idea what zergs doing/ thinking
So cool that they're doing the sc1 vs sc2 thing. I JUST saw that video the other day, and now suddenly there's an exhibition event for it 😀
I'm really hoping it takes off, that's like the most exciting thing to happen to starcraft in a decade lol
GSL is a totally different animal. It's where mechanics, strategy and preparation are at the highest level. On top of that, there are a bunch of mind games.
I'd like to see Serral in the GSL.
It would be fun, but I think it would be no difference
He won 2 gsl vs the world
And he beat the top gsl players a lot of times....
@@SDanny23 gsl vs the world was a weekend tournament format, also he beat top gsl players on a weekend tournament format. so it IS a DIFFERENCE. there will be difference, such as reynor winning the highest prize pool ever in sc2 history: a weekend-tournament called gamers8(now EWC) [where serral only went ro.8 in that tournament] but getting eliminated immediately in the first group stages of gsl=2022, 2024( today) serral has a high chance to lose to solar, ragnarok, classic, soO, bunny, et cetra, all of whom have beat serral in weekend tournaments. if they prepare, serral would lose more harshly, more brutally get defeated. and there is maru, and if he is in his kingdom, homeground, he would surely beat serral, just like how serral beats maru in his homeground-weekend tournaments.
@@SDanny23 GSL vs the World is a totally different format, its similar to Super Tournament than code S, and we know Protoss win a lots in Super Tournament but doesnt win a thing in code S. And Serral has lost to GSL-type group stage before, especially when he has Zerg in his group. While I dont think he will struggle like Reynor did, implying Serral would win without any question is a bit too untrue.
@@einerheit5871 tournaments are announced way before so they have all the time to prepare
@@einerheit5871excellent analysis and observation.
Don't give up reynor. Your our best hope.
Fucking owned, holy shit. What a tournament the GSL is.
it really shows how big preparation time makes of a difference, in "random" online tournaments, sure Reynor might struggle vs herO but no way would he loose to Gumiho 0-2, who then continues to loose to soO 1-4...it really shows that, if you give players time to prepare specificially for a opponent, koreans who have practised this format for over a decade now still make even top foreigners look like they are not even supposed to be here, like in the "good old days" :D
@@LordSipher except Serral
@@schlechtgut8349 Yeah yeah., Serral would win in your imaginary world right? He doesnt even dare to try GSL and its for a good reason.
Zergs have always been and will always be favoured against T and P in weekend style tourneys. Prep tourneys is the only thing that truly matters. In my world you can win as many weekends you want. Dreamhack here and there. GSL is where the true skill is and its proven today by Raynor not even taking ONE map.
Well, Reynor really struggles now, ended 5th place in esl europe. Just some days ago, sure from korea but still.
And he hasent finished Well in the 2 big tourn before that either. Not a good time to go to GSL.
Gonna be super intersting to see how much serrals military session Will effect his play
@@Joh00226 Doesnt matter. Serral chickens out of going to GSL. And therfore forfeits the GOAT status to Maru by default.
I can give credit to Reynor for having the courage to play GSL!!!
This has cemented Serral either definitely never trying or definitely having to do it.
He's talked about it in the past, whenever asked he says it takes too long, it's a big disruption to his life, and it's not worth it (metaphorically and monetarily). He gets asked about it every other month from what I've seen.
I think he will never try because he is afraid to lose terribly in the Ro.16. GSL is just a different affair than those weekend tournaments.
@@spasteroneill9636 That's very weak to call someone a coward without doing it yourself. I am not a huge Serral fan, but he got a point there. Just imagine to move for 2 months to another country and work from there without the garantee to even earn money. And that all for a pin for your shirt or proofing a point? That's not worth wasting so much money.
@@Gemraw I'm not saying I could do it, I'm saying Serral can't, and he probably knows it. Stating money and time issues is just an excuse, imo. I think that the GSL is the most prestigious tournament for a reason. Players are given enough time to prepare specifically for their next opponent. So far, Koreans have excelled in that area with no foreigner really coming close to achieving a win in the GSL. If you want to be considered the GOAT in Starcraft (I don't know if Serral aims for that), I think it is hard to justify without competing in and winning a GSL. If Serral is only in it for the money and doesn't care about merit, then I agree, it's probably not worth it for him. Although, as a professional Starcraft player, per definition playing Starcraft is his job, and I see no reason why he shoudn't be able to train and compete in online tournaments while living in Korea for a while. Just saying...
He is a big disruption to SC2. he is bad for SC2
Really sad to see Reynor get absolutely demolished. I hope we get to see him more in the booth though.
Every Zerg is getting demolished. EU GM is 50% Protoss right now. This games balance is a joke because they nerfed Zerg because of serral.
@@Konranjyoutai Most of the important nerf on Zerg was done BEFORE Serral winning at IEM, and during that time Reynor won Gamers8 and Solar won GSL S3 last year. So clearly Zerg didnt suck because of the nerf, although Serral is still the best Zerg in the world.
@@Konranjyoutai So? No Protoss from Europe qualified for ESL Dallas except for MaxPax.
@tigera6 you need your own SC2 blog and channel, great reply. 👍
@@Konranjyoutai Protoss does wonderfully in best of 1s when they can surprise you. However they get dunked on in literally every other format with precious few exceptions.
Amazing day. Also Reynor casting 10/10 colouring up. Tks for the tournament GSL.
Ouch, hope Reynor doesn't feel like the GSL is jinxed and gets a mental block from it. It's hard for a casual like me to reconcile the apparent difference in performance in the overseas tournament and in GSL. Serral completely demolished Maru 4-0 in the finals of the last premier tournament and made Zerg look like a brick wall and we all know Reynor can spar with Serral and Clem quite well.
Against herO, I wonder if trying to counter attack so much with lings backfired. Against Gumiho, I'm not as surprised because Reynor seems to prefer playing vs bio more where pure mechanics shine. Definitely thought he won the 2nd game and was expecting him to just roach flood with possibly a few infestors to trap the cyclones to prevent mining at the third but maybe that's only viable as a backseat strategy.
Serral is bad for SC 2. Tournaments other than GSL are unreliable.
Hope to see reynor cast more in this tournament!
wrrr
Since I started watching, Neeb was best foreigner finishing in ro4
Spoiler: Tasteless is back!!!
so sad
@@krioni86sa suck it
Brutal starting matchup for Reynor against arguably one of the top 2-3 Protoss in the World, then he gets Thor-ed by Gumiho. I hope he comes back next season & tries again, and I do hope he does some more casting this season because he's knowledge on the commentary desk is amazing.
Kinda sucks that we don't have Special or Scarlett & Reynor got bounced in the first round, having a foreigner make a run is always entertaining especially when they score upsets like Scarlett did beating Maru a few seasons back.
He threw game two. All he had to do was stay back and kill the 3rd base and all the scvs there, then pull back. Instead he ran past the economy and wasted time trying to break through
Top 2? The hell? Who's better than hero?
herO is unarguably the best protoss nowadays.
@@AzazelOnmyoji It's the delusional MaxPax fanboys who think MaxPax is the best protoss and Clem also being the best terran in their eyes.
SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!
Reynor trained so hard to play well in GSL and still he didn't make it :/ It's sad. I think he didn't play bad, he just didn't take advantage when he had it. Especially in series against Gumiho. I hope he gets back stronger in next GSL season
her0 prepped perfectly for Reynor. He knew all his run by timings and everything. Reynor just played poorly against Gumiho. Hopefully Reynor gains some more experience and motivation after this. GSL isn't as forgiving when it comes to trying to feel a game out and adapt which is what Reynor is best at. Pre-planned timings on specific maps is to the utmost degree in GSL as we saw soO have more success with as zerg.
Previous time he was overconfident strutting on stage like his going to own the tournament and talking in interview how he has an easy group. This time he certainly took it more seriously. I agree, he seemed to play well, but few wrong decisions is what it takes to loose. Looking back at his previous time he was obviously nervous and it was showing on his units control, this time he played way better in this regard.
Tasteless said that GSL is very different in format from ESL tournaments. This is true, but still. It is not like Gumiho or Hero won against Raynor by some mad unexpected preparation. In case of Hero, he was simply better with his macro and army composition. And in case of Gumiho - some very on point decisions made in critical moments of the game.
I'd love to see Serral in GSL. But don't think it will ever happen.
wrrr
@@d4slaimless wrg, nervx etc nmw
Havent heard Andy in so long too!! this group was like chicken pot pie on a winters day
3:18:48 - Queens can't transfuse off of creep, Tasteless 😅
This is the comment what I want
Thank you GSL !!
Thank God for Starcraft and GSL
Those two slow banes just casually walking up to that mineral lines was one of the funniest things I have ever seen in gsl lol
Foreigner casters will never talk about Home court advantage. They will never ever want to remember the time when MC, Taeja, MMA, Polt, Bomber were winning all the weekend foreigner tournaments until Blizzard decided to practically ban all Koreans in foreigner tournaments.
Some great sc2 as always!
Love Soo's approach. Everyone is trying to copy Serral and failing. I'm gonna do Soo and crush!
It's kinda ironic; last week Reynor told us what he dislikes about many plays and today he lost every single game...
Tastless' flu game, he's the Jordan of casting. But then again you got Artosis
Wdym Artosis?
@@chingizzhylkybayev8575 I mean it’s fair to argue that Artosis is the GOAT caster
It seems out of all the foreigners who have gone to GSL, Neeb is the one who has made the deepest run out of all of them
soO is back!!!
Is there a SCII website with a tournament schedule / info without spoilers?
2:03:00 If Terran can get to mass BC and has a ground army, it can do that teleporting trick to instakill any capital ship/tier 3 unit army, including mass carrier. Terrans will still whine that zerg is OP though because Serral is the best
Terrans constantly whine while consistently never having a year where they were ever considered under powered. Everyone likes to cry about protoss being op even though they are the least winning race tournament wise. And terrans have been dominating the past few years and before the last patch they had insane buffs to cyclones and widow mines. You will never see Protoss get a patch that improves a single unit they have that much, they'll be like "Here we made void rays a bit faster but also they deal 10% less damage and have 25% less HP"
Heart breaks for reynor. Hopefully we get him casting now though!!!
Stateless should be the main caster duo for GSL, but I heard Reynor is going to cast the Chinese SC2 tournament next week.
@@tigera6 I would hate to see Tasteless stop casting GSL in actuality. However, I think State and Reynor have better chemistry than State and Tasteless. It was amazing casting and I would like to see more of it.
@@jimmyhighroller5366That was really only because state was fanboying a bit. Not in a really bad way, but he was definitely making it Reynors cast.
Fuck you for spoiling
Fuck you for spoiling. Stop up voting this
I Respect Reynor for trying again.
Thank you for being part of GSL. SC 2 has been stronger ever since your participation
Don't be sad. we are grateful.
better luck next time reynor (frodo) really wished you advanced, hopefully next time, love the keyboard
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1:54:39 great use of parasitic bomb to stress the multitasking of Terran- trying to swoop the medivacs in close causes them to bunch up & adds additional required ameliorations (splitting)
Theres a lot of people bashing Reynor for his performance like they were GSL winners.
Poor bastards they wouldnt make it to classification brackets.
Game 2 of Reynor vs Gumiho was really decided by upgrades. Gumiho was on 3/3 for his mech while reynor had 1/1 ranged and 0 damage upgrades for the lings and only in the lategame started researching +1 and attackspeed.
reynor basically just completely threw game 2 vs gumi by bringing the broods back that was an insane choice.
2:15:40 biles catch the cloaked banshee. Who needs detection haha. So clutch.
Do another one! We’re begging you.
Why didn't Reynor try for the base trade in game 2 against Gumiho? Once you're at the opponent's doorstep, you can't turn back with those Broods. Gotta destroy the Terran's base and try to defend with your other forces.
everytime I battlemech the zergs always respond correctly with infestor yet Reynor didn't do that until the match was basically over, lmao.
I love Starcraft!! GSL FOREVER!!
I've never seen that many cyclones in 1 game and im coming from bronze league
Love the respect Soo has for Serral!
but yeah, I think Reynor wasn't feeling it today, we usually see him bounce on his favorite hip hop but now he did not look that confident, his games vs gumiho were ok but vs herO he looked like the worse player, and it is ashame because it was probably nerves or just being in a not so good state of mind that got to him. I hope we can see a better Reynor next time ♥
That said, I have to also give kudos to the koreans, herO played very well with his micro and early game, gumiho realized when to base trade, etc.
I think Reynor was much more nervous in previous GSL that he played. He was making mistakes that he didn't do today. But something else might have been off, as indeed Hero just crashed him.
@@d4slaimless Reynor mis-read the build and react the wrong way in most of the situation. He didnt make Roach against mass Zealot Archon push, then he try to block the Nexus and fail. Against Gumiho he went for BLord-Corruptor-Infestor against BC-Thors which is a no-no. And then he went Blord again into mass Helion/Cyclone mobility and got countered to death.
@@tigera6 I didn't mean that he didn't make mistakes in general. What i meant is previous time it was things like lings running into the wall of main base with no purpose. Units out of place/position. In this regard he played better.
As for his decisions, were not the best, certainly. Infestors could have worked though,
Hero is supper good only not steady, his peak is above every player even when toss is the most unbalanced he can play toe to toe with anyone. Reynor didnt play bad today, its just gumiho dont apply to euro-logic of sc2.
So sad for Reynor. Hope he has a better run next season.
"We're speed running it man!" *checks video length* *Shocked Pikachu face*
I hope this means he gets to cast next game
the Italian shrimp goes home early, again.
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Seems like the koreans really wanted to make a statement to foreigners in general. In true tournament style format, koreans are still premier over the world.
"Zings" great nickname for them.
Gumigod killed His own medivac xD with one Marine in IT.
3:18:45 Tasteless forgot that queens can't transfuse out of creep.
People are always saying Maru is only the greatest GSL player of all time, but I don't see any non-Koreans doing very well in this format. Not convinced Serral is the GOAT. Maybe the best IEM player.
That was Reynor casting in the last video? I did turn it to mute, I'm an old crotchety old man. I'm here for Tasteless at this point, haha.
Gumnho sending those marauders to top was complete missread
Ah, so we do get non-windowed version, good.
great sets, good music this season too
who would have thought there'd be a day terran pump out mass cyclones in midgame.
Serral should come to Korea and play in the GSL too!
Why does GuMiho go only mech against Raynor but not soO? Maybe that's why he lost for not changing it up.
KR Zerg in general has a strong timing against Mech player, they will hit with Queen drop and Roach Ravager, similar to what Reynor did in game 2 but with even sharper timing. KR Terran was playing Mech occasionally and the Zerg players got their prepped build for that. Reynor would almost never play against such build in EU, where most Terran playing Bio.
That's the strategy and preparation. GuMiho thought that his winning probability is much higher when he uses bio against soO.
What is happening in this season? Last group, I see BCs in pro matches, and now swarm hosts? This is giving me hope lol. As well as Creator's playstyle in the last group being very similar to my own protoss gameplay.
2:13:20 More like CYCLONOLOGY ready!
3:05:50 I like how they both just totally ignore that.
WHERE IS SERRAL?
Could really use timestamps in these vods
They also upload each match as its own video
I would also recommend the sponsorblock browser extension, which crowd-sources info about segments of the video and can often help you skip the intermissions between games and stuff
@@DFGdanger thank you, sir or madam!
Maru and Raynor both cursed. both couldn't win overseas.
Yo wtf happened to Reynor?? I feel like wasn’t that long ago he was up there with Serral
last time, he was 0-2, 0-2 as well. I guess he'll never win a game in GSL
3:05:00 Screw you, traitorous medivac! GuMiho knows what you've been up to.
Spoilers!!
So sad for Reynor, now 1-8* in GSL. Game 2 was just disgusting. Cant tell if its nervs, or what. But the Early game meta is SO aggressive in Korea, and a lot of his calls while casting and plays he made just didnt work. He called for Broodlords while casting, but they arguably lost him the game chasing Cyclones. Also, maybe HerO was listening when Reynor said EU meta is late Spores for more Queens while casting because he got Oracled to death.
Hope he stays around for the next and (possibly again) last GSL season, or gets into casting!
Another week of great games! This year of GSL has been 10/10
He is not 0-8. He did win 1 map previous time.
Don't think he made exactly bad calls during casting, those were different games, But certainly his plays in his own games didn't work out.
@d4slaimless I never said they were "bad" calls, just that they didn't really fit, EU and KR have different metas.
He obviously knows way better then me but - Specifically remember him saying Spores aren't needed just good queen micro, and hero went fast SG both games which did well.
But true - he did win 1 vs DRG last time he entered. 1-8 still isn't very convincing for other Foreigners to have a good chance, since Reynor beats 99% of them.
you gotta also mention Scarlett famously off racing as Protoss and beating (DRG?)
If we are talking about Scarlett, she RECALLED her broodlords in one of her recent games. That was so cool to watch.
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As expected, Reynor played poorly. Surprised casters didn't mention it especially in GM1, very timid and indecisive. I guess something about Korea or the GSL stage?
Koreans are amazing
Gogo zergz
Mario and Luigi were finally alone
lmao "budget serral." well played reynor
If Reynor, the second best foreign Z, did decently in GSL, there would be an argument that Serral would be able to dominate here.
I dont think get last place in the group and couldnt win a single map is considered as "did decently in GSL". But Serral is a whole different animal.
I don't think any zerg can do well right now.
@@tommywatson1527 man you realise that you’re commenting on a video where soO just advanced, right?
Could anyone explain to me why Raynor is saying on his stream that you have to go lurker every game against protoss as well as never get banelings because banelings are the worst unit in the game then proceeds to do the opposite of that.
Maybe Hero was in his chat and he was mind gaming him
Why would you retreat with those brood lords? They spent so much time doing absolutely nothing.
"Buff Toss" ... Kappa
Unironically buff Protoss more 😊
OMG aaaaaaaaaaaa dudessss
3:19:00 State forgot queen cant transfuse off creep -____-
Once serral is gone blizzard will have to buff Zerg for the next 10 years.
You would say the same if Dark or Reynor win the next premiere tournament?
Yeah zerg is so bad now. No zergs can compete.
@@tommywatson1527 What are you talking about? Soo just advance , and we still have Dark Rogue Solar yet to play their groups. Unless its Maru or herO, who are stopping the Zerg?
@@tigera6 Rogue is in the military
@@CSHummer Hes been back for about 2 months and currently playing in GSL.
3:05:51 wtf just happened?
Gumichoke
HE FORGOT NEEB!!!
Reynor who???
2:05:40 "Weekend format" meme again. You guys realize Reynor is in a foreign country trying to beat a tight knit group at what they do best. The mental edge to the home team is massive.
So, if you make that excuse for foreigners in Korea, same thing should be said for Koreans in EU right?
It's so hard to go there and just dominate on someone else's home turf?
@@SsSHardt I dunno, does that happen? How about neutral ground? Don't think Koreans dominate there
@@chir0pter there is no neutral ground is it?
And weekend format vs a prep tournament is a big difference. You can't just put your head in the sand and ignore it.
lmao u sound like u just started watching starcraft 2 1 week ago with this awful take
@@dumbocow Cope more
poor reynor men xd hero is just such a beaaast
Is Reynor partying a bit too hard in those korean nightclubs?
8% win was way to high for raynor. Why he was picked second. serral would get destroyed in the gsl.
I am very happy about the outcome but I do feel for Reynor getting 0-4'd and playing by far the worst of all the players in each game. Still far more happy for Soo to finally get past the round of 16
He was better than Gumiho. Terran won those games because Zerg has been nerfed to the ground thanks to the "balances" around Serral's dominating performances.
@@OnigoroshiZero then how did Soo 4-1Gumiho on the very same day? Its pretty stupid to just blame Zerg nerf everytime Zerg player lost. Solar 4-1 Gumiho in the GSL Final last year, with the same patch minus the slight Infestor nerf, Reynor was outplayed, deal with it.
Good attempt from Reynor, but GSL is the highest lvl of tournament for a reason. The studying the prep Koreans will outpace u in that.
Hm, having State disagree with everything Tasteless says isn't a good look for a cast.
terrible reynor 😢