H-D Nightster 975 Revealed! (Yamcast Ep. 80)
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2022
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@Yammie Noob here is a ridiculous comment how the heck does this guy come to the conclusion your racist.
I watch every video and all you seem to do is push rhat you want every one to become a motorcycle rider.
What a joke now I see what you mean about crazy UA-cam comments.
@@hps1955 YT comments : i laughed for 20 minutes, especially at the sarcastic and hommage comment at 1:13:00 (1 hours 13 minutes), is the guy even serious or is he making fun of some of Yammie's crew favourite bikes shown on the channel as an hommage to the hard work put into these videos by the Yam crew ? No one knows. ;-)
Some people even think he might troll and correct some people in comment sections on absurd claims and often makes fun of Yam's Daytona, also of some few misinformed claims in the channel's videos and making fun of the Tuono featured on the channel just to trigger some b@tthurt people to make a video rant about it, but who knows for sure ;-)
The guy must really be a superfan who watches Yammie Noob regularly :-)
My most hated bike currently is anything from Zero.
Not because I think the bikes are bad but because they are doing this BS pay to play crap with stuff that's already on the bike.
There is no way they can tell me that I didn't already pay for that tech and then I have to pay more to unlock it.
It's not like they don't have to pay for the parts on the bike until I decide to turn it on. That shit is 100% already factored into the base price.
Id like to see Zero be successful but having demo'd an SR/F i just dont like electric motorcycles. no shifting, no sound, no power band -- there is no character
I have a Zero FX 7.2. I like how light, quiet and fast it is. My work is only 12 miles so no range anxiety, 85mph is top speed but that's in range of dirt bike competition and its soo quiet.
@@just_one_opinion yeah, i'm not saying they are bad bikes, I'm saying they have bad business practices
The nightster looks a lot better then a rebel 1100, but id rather buy the rebel.
Have you seen both sides?
Glad to see Harley modernising their engines under the Indian Scout and Rebel 1100 threat. I will always have a soft spot for the low revving but torque heavy long stroke engines and the sound they make but I get it, it is not the way of the future and horse power numbers do matter for a lot of people.
Yeah, but the 975 Nightster produces the same torque as the Iron 1200 did. That’s the whole point of complaining about HD still using air-cooled engines. The engine is smaller, just as powerful, and the bike is significantly lighter, too.
@@altortugas5979 Yes but does it start torquing from low or do you need to rev it up? That is usually the difference between long stroke vs short stroke engine. Air vs water cooled also plays part, of course. Both designs have their pros and cons.
I mean, RPMs are relative. If you have two engines with the same torque, but one engine has peak torque at 3500 rpm with a red line at 6000 and another that peaks at 5 and redlines at 10, you’ll still stall it if you dump the clutch, but you’ll get into the power sooner on the second one.
Personal experience, I own a Rebel 1100, it ain’t like you have to bounce it off the rev limiter to get the power going.
heh, he said heavy long stroke
Admittedly, the Nightster is a sweet looking bike, but $13.5K for a stripped down lower tier bike, it's overpriced. For $2K less, make mine a Scout Rogue.
The Scout Rogue another overpriced bike. The one they featured in their recent ad goes for about 13.5k and you don't get an LED headlight, no rider modes, no cruise control, and a crappy dash that doesn't even give you a fuel guage. And for all you boomers, please spare me the "I don't fancy electronics on muh bike". Not like a fuel guage is some cutting edge technology.
People shopping for a good motorcycle never come across harley, it's people who want a harley and just pay whatever it costs.
To consider this in the first place you have already skipped over much more important things than price.
For the first time ever, I agree with everything you guys said about the Harley. It took you an unexplainable 2 weeks to do it, but hey, here we are. Remember guys, the new Harley rebel 975 will be $15,000 by the time it reaches the dealership floor, if you want a painted “air box”. Color $400, freight $575, surcharges $500, MSRP $13,500= $15,000.
That's if you're lucky, looked at an almost 10 year old triumph at a dealership and they had close to 1800 dollars in fees. That was without color
Again, price point on this bike with Harley just doesn't compete. I don't want them to pull the plug on this bike for "failure" when more people would buy if it was priced right.
The price situation is even more disappointing than it seems. MSRP of $13,4999 for vivid black. Now get your faux gas tank painted, add tax, title, dealer prep, and the obligatory dealer mark up, and you will be lucky to get out the door for 16 grand. Hard pass.
@@rodneymoyer7114 agreed. Extremely hard pass.
@@rodneymoyer7114 youre completely right. the MSRP should be the otd at maximum IF that!
Yam: "How much you sell the chopper for?"
Chris: "I don't wanna talk about it"
I got a rebel 1100 and I couldn't be happier. Just saying!
I have to say that the 790 used to be built in Austria and those engines gave some people a ton of problems although where fine for some other people, it was kinda hit and miss but then when the 890 came out they moved production to China and reliability actually improved instead of getting worse like we would assume.
Harley and good mechanical bikes in the same sentence? Bwahahahaha good one yami
I'd love to see you guys do a living with Honda Fury.
Well at least HD is now doing somewhat modern engines :D
I too hate the mt-07 because I'm not paying $6500-$7k for a 2015 😂
Also yes, my mt10 gets a loud exhaust pass! Yam said it
Yammie, you must complete the holy trinity of nerd bike reviews and check out the Honda NC750X. You rode the GS, the Versys, and so many other nerd bikes. Do it for the big dik energy. Callsign Hayafukinbusa.
Yesssss, that would be funny. Darn good bike, just so boring
Alright! Best podcast of my week
I think Harley is moving in the right direction hopefully it pays off
49:57 spite swigged that like a cocktail when the guy next to you at the bar starts talking politics
In Germany the Sportster S costs 16000 € , the Nightster costs 15000 €.
While the Sportster S has true modern dreambike potential in my perception - much power, radical and modern styling, all the sexy electronic bells and whistles (except a quickshifter), you pay just a 1000 less for the Nightster, and you get the less powerfull engine, not adjustable suspension, no six axis, no tft.
I think it rides well and modern and really sporty, but it's hard to fall in love with it instantly.
The Honda CB1000R Black Edition costs 14500 € like the Triumph Bobber, the R nineT Pure costs 13600 € and the Rebel costs just 10800 € (and 11800 for the DCT version).
Hard & sexy competion in Germany for the Nightster 😮
lol you totally sound like a pervo German 😆
Not an HD fan, BUT I watched because it's nice to know what manufactures are making. You never know when you'll learn something new or like something for the 1st time. I was very impressed with the new PA ADV bike, late, but a great alternative to the other entries. HD needs to get ahead of the curve in new bikes and be more modern...there are only so many ppl who want to ride their grandpa's bike and all about old school nostalgia. I personally don't want a 2022 bike with 1960 tech or looks for way overpriced on what you get with truly modern bikes. A Retro Mod...some old school updated looks with modern underneath...that is the way to go...IMO. Good job guys,
You got sick? Sorry man, glad to see that you got over it.
i think yammies dislike for cbr500 is more of a disappointment for honda not doing shit right when they are capable and equipped.
If the kawi 650 sounded like the mt07 or aprilia660, everyone minds would change.....even the YAM!
Shopping for a new bike so all-in
Even if they had the same price I would buy the Honda. But the HD seems interesting to me.
The Honda really set the standard for this class by including 6-speed, cruise control, abs, and rider-modes in the base model.
@@altortugas5979 not to mention the availability of DCT.
Well, there’s an up charge for the DCT, which is why I didn’t include it. It’s a nice accessibility option, though.
I am a traditional sportbike/naked bike guy and had considered a smaller cruiser at some point, maybe a Bolt or something similar just to add something different to the garage. This is actually the first Harley that made me even consider the possibility of buying an HD product. However, the price is too damn high for what it is. Yea, it seems like it will be a great bike in it's class, but I still feel like you are being overcharged for the "privilege" of being able to say you ride a Harley.
Can't wait to see the H-D bois stunting this thing out
Is a Honda Rebel 500 owner. I see in the forks, turn signs and dash is very Harley copying Honda copying Harley. One thing that gets me with the Harley's. I looked at a gorgeous 22 street bob wit the 114. In the blue.I sat on it. (Couldn't ride it. It was February with snow) I was priced. $18,300 usd out the door with 5k trade in and $220 a month at 72 months. At a western NY dealer. Personally that price is insane. At 10k the Rebel 1100 has cruise control the street bob did not. Rebel also has the storage compartment under the seat. I will say the textile feel of the Harley was nicer than my Rebel. As much as I liked the street bob. But I can't justify the Harley premium.
Every time I hear Spite say he hates the R1250GS I'm yelling F you in my car 🤣🤣
While I like the direction Harley is taking, I feel like they're at least a decade behind the market (with ADV, hell more like 40 years for the Rebel clone). Without being better than the rest in these segments, I doubt this will be a winning strategy either.
Was the Livewire behind the market? Was the Pan America behind the market? Yes the livewire was far overpriced for what it was, but it's a cutting edge innovative electric bike. The Pan America comes out and it's just as good as a GS for less cost. Now BMW is gearing up for a better GS, and we will see the competition drive innovation for both companies. Perhaps your bias against HD (for good reasons) is clouding your perception of where HD is. If there's one thing the new CEO did right is spare no expense in hiring some of the best engineers available.
@@grendelprime166 yeah it's behind because it was 2022 before they even had something in the ADV category.
The bleeding edge of the ADV market is really the Yamaha T7, not the GSA IMHO.
@@henrietn sorry, my comment wasn't clear, the "bleeding edge" didn't refer to tech, but MSRP, Weight, capability. At $9,999 450 lbs, ~+60 hp and Japanese reliability is something BMW, Harley, KTM and frankly everyone else is left chasing.
I was really hoping they'd bring out the Bronx...
The slingshot isn't a V6 Pontiac engine, that'd be kinda cool (well assuming it was a legitimately old one or the 3800) . The slingshot engine is the 4cylnder "ecotec" from the chevy cobalt.
It used to be an ecotec, now it's a in house polaris built 4cyl
The nightster line has definitely been created to compete with the Indian scout line. Look for more versions of this bike to come. It is a market they have yet to explore. The Indian scout and victory octane kind of broke the liquid cooler American v twin class wide open. I'm pretty sureharkey wasn't even thinking of the Honda rebel in this creation lol. This bike looks strikingly similar to the Victory octane.. ✌
New Nightster is AWESOME 😎
Have you seen both sides of the bike?
Great video guys 👍
A middle weight adventure bike could be different like the Tenere 700 is different than the Super Tenere, or the GS850 and the GS1250.
In Australia the Softail Standard is the entry bike for Harley as the lowest price point. The sportsters run $3 - 8 K above the scouts.
The rebel 1100 is a cool bike. I wanna hate it but once I rode one I can't.
I liked it on paper, and then I sat on it, and it’s the most uncomfortable motorcycle I’ve ever sat on, I was seriously interested to not caring about it in 40 seconds
I can’t really say I hate any bike. There’s many I just don’t care about. I’d say I dislike liter bikes. Just because there’s people out there with the mindset that a 600 or most naked bikes aren’t fast enough for the street.
I’m kinda considering an ADV bike in the next couple years. If an HD middleweight ADV bike existed for less than 15k (ideally like 13) I would at minimum test ride it and I would probably buy it.
Best looking CBR500R I've ever seen 🤣😬
I really love that nightster
on the adv doing the 975vstyle fuel tank will also help putting the weight closer to the ground
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Okay Yam was sick, we'll let it go this time. 😄
Yup, we've come full circle. After years of Japanese and others mimicking iconic Harley-Davidson themes, Harley-Davidson is now copying those Japanese copies of the Harley-Davidson original.
I have a chinese bike it's sold in the US under SSR Buccaneer 250, the engine in it is just a licensed copy of a yamaha xv250 with higher revs. The engine is bulletproof but things like the wiring, lights are shit and most recently the front brake disk bent, and the local dealer won't import parts which is illegal here. But we also have dealers for Benelli and CF Moto and you can get any part for a maximum of a one month wait.
Come to Iowa and ride my 05 GSXR 750! Its my fist bike BTW
3:09 Scientifically proven voice of a Harley rider.
Suzuki is the best, I mean not technically, but I love the bargain and competitive performance.
Can't mod that fuel box though. I like the idea of the lower center of gravity, gonna be a gas station jumper!
a gas station jumper?
i have a CFMoto 650mt had for a year now had no problems
I own a 2009 nightster 1200. I'll just keep this one haha
I just looked at the Nightster 975 at my local dealer today. They are asking $18,000...entry level bike my ass but it was nice to sit on for someone who's 6' looking for a cruiser (wouldn't let me test drive unless I was for sure buying it which didn't make sense to me). I still would want the Nightster unless a Rebel 1100 popped up somewhere for me to check out.
Wild guess for the PanAm 965S... It will be A2 compliant and they'll offer a limited ECU for those that want it. Similarly to what Suzuki is doing with the GSXS1000 and the GSXS950, just a 1000 with a maximum of 95hp that can be limited to 47 for the A2 license ;)
I hope they still keep the 1200 sportster. I like slow heavy air cooled engines. The sportster engines are the last real harley sounding engines imo.
The new triumph tiger 1200 rally pro is has a 21 inch front wheel too now
I prefer the looks of the nightser to the sportster s. hopefully eventually they'll offer nightser looks with sportster s power.
I own two Harleys and love them. I’d take the traditional sportster 883 or 1200 over the Honda, I mean Harley Nightster.
I’d take any Honda.
Niken - The T-Rex of Motorcycles
"I have been told so dear Master-" "-but lately?" "Oh no, years and years ago"
I had a 1981 VW Rabbit Pickup that was a 1.6L Diesel and had 53hp from the factory. It was not fun to floor it so I don't know what that guy was talking about.
i am so into this bike to be honest, i like it and i know its a little much for the price but the dealers are all harley here.
Do you live in a harley dealership?
@@Isthislife2135 it's five minutes away and my friend owns the shop it just works out for me. I like other bikes though I'm after a fjr1300 at the moment
There's a Union building across the street from where I live. All hours of the day and night ego douches are pulling in and revving their loud compensation engines and then drag down the straighaway, since that's all they can do: drive in a straight line. On the flip side all night it sounds like the Indy 500 from across the city of sport racer douches using the outer belt as their race track. I'm glad I'm moving.
You guys hit the nail on the head it's an overpriced rival to the rebel 1100. But it's also worth noting that this is about a 180 pounds lighter then the Indian scout and that's pretty noteworthy.
I'm the kind of lunatic who would put the continental classic attack Sport touring tire and the factory size in the front, which is a radial tire, and try and pair it with another radial sport touring tire in the back. They wont match but hopefully tire companies step up soon.
Given that the rebel 1100 with its weird tire sizes is basically locked in to having pirelli night dragons as the most aggressive tire available this acthis actually should give it a good run.
Kawasaki Simp theory sounds like some sort of nerd rock album.
It is a beginner bike for someone in their 30s or 40s and has 13k for a toy. Plus I am sure power is in the revs so unless you are totally inept you wont loop it. $3500 to go from Honda Rebel to Harley isn't going to be a big deal for someone not in their 20s and/or is like $60 loan payment difference. I am sure the Rebel is a better value but that is true of their entire line.
13 more like 17 out the door. It's 13,999 that's way too much. It's a great step in the right direction but that price is insane!
Just because the power is high in the revs is helpful but same thing with a 600 and ppl still end up whisky throttling and looping them so
@@mattbroussard7409MSRP is $13,499. Add in freight and setup for another $1k, then registration and taxes for another $1,500 and you get and Out the Door price of a cool $16k. Not a shocker for a HD product, marketed towards a 40 year old making +$150k a year.
@@mattbroussard7409 I mean I think the market will normalize it. Sure some youtuber needs the first batch for content but few will pay that kind of mark up over MSRP.
@@jayboog4434 But it isnt a sport bike 600. Its a smaller detuned adventure bike motor. You can loop anything if you try hard enough but I'm not concerned in the layout.
I think this Nightster is a better bike than the Scout with it's features, but you can get the same stuff on the Rebel 1100 for much cheaper. I think HD will make a killing with a 975 PA.
Yam and spite ride a boss hoss
Harley nightster exaust looking like a leaf blower
I think the rsv4 and tuono do have different engines slightly don't they?????
Fact: I love my Harley Softail M8. Also Fact: I am a dying breed. HD needs to step up big time. Indian is stepping up and taking sales from them. Harley has no answer to the Challenger, they have the engine, needs to go into a touring bike. The CVO is $8,000 to $10,000 more but in many ways falls short. Harley does look better and has better fit and finish, but not 10 grand worth better.
I have a GS. I guess that I have to sell it....spite says it sucks... HA NOPE love that thing
Nice.
That price tag is too damn high, you could get a Softail Standard for the same price. And that exhaust looks like a Stihl leaf blower.
how are we only halfway and I'm already looking to to if itchy boots has posted....jfc
I see what your saying on the me too thing but really the other option is no sportster
Where’s the Bronx, where’s the Bronx, where’s the Bronx!
I have a Chinesium exhaust, loud as F&%#, but I don't know where to order a quality exhaust and alot of places were out of stock and backorder.
lol yeah Bronx is what everyone is asking for but the Pan Am 975 is interesting
I went to a harley dealership and was interested in a Street Bob...they refuse to give me an invoice unless I fill out a credit application...needless to say I left and I doubt I'll ever go back to a hd dealer.
"What's the price on this bike?"
"If you have to ask you can't afford it"
"But is it even a good bike?"
"..."
It’s definitely dealer dependent. My HD dealer used to not even show prices online (prices were on the bikes in person) but before I said yes to the bike they showed me my trade in and total before I did an application. Now they’re under new management and the price of each bike is on their site and to me that makes them much more honest. Maybe check around and see if another dealer will work with you if you still wanna go HD after that.
thats wierd, they will stand and talk to you for a hour at my local place. hell they will tell you the taxes and the prices, thats so odd. they also pay like crazy on trade ins, but they are popular for a reason
@@roadrunner681 I said the same thing. When I purchased the gsxr750 3 yrs ago that dealership had no issues giving me an invoice..they emailed it to me after the first conversation over the phone..fill out the application, which they also emailed..2 weeks ltr I went in ,signed all the papers, 90 min later I was done.. never in my life have I ever went through this...at this point I'll probably either go with a cb1000r or triumph street triple 765rs. Harley drop the ball unfortunately
@@aa-yt7wo 20k for 90hp 600+lbs ....thats almost robbery.. I could get two niiiice bikes for that price.. lol
300 hp on anything that weighs well under 1000 pounds is unfathomably fast. I guess you wouldn’t really understand how fast it is, unless you have written it.
great little bike from Harley. Just prices a little to high. $11,500 is what I think this bike should cost.
I just bought a new Concours 14 for $15k. Harley prices are stoopid.
YT comments : i laughed for 20 minutes, especially at the sarcastic and hommage comment at 1:13:00 (1 hours 13 minutes), is the guy even serious or is he making fun of some of Yammie's crew favourite bikes shown on the channel as an hommage to the hard work put into these videos by the Yam crew ? No one knows. ;-)
Some people even think he might troll and correct some people in comment sections on absurd claims and often makes fun of Yam's Daytona, also of some few misinformed claims in the channel's videos and making fun of the Tuono featured on the channel just to trigger some b@tthurt people to make a video rant about it, but who knows for sure ;-)
The guy must really be a superfan who watches Yammie Noob regularly :-)
My first and only bike is a 96 Savage/S40. I have tried everything in the world to quiet this bike down but god is it embarrassing sometimes.
My MT-07 isn't ugly. It just looks like it crawled out of the Zerg hive cluster. Leave us alone. 😔
Ha, Starcraft fan! Terrans own the Zerg! 😁✌️
Hondas j series v6 s also did fake vtec by having intake only vvt
in all honesty, the 883 i had was more frightening than my new to me 675R. not sure why but the thing felt like a death trap compared to the triumph. Its almost like a sledge hammer compared to a scalpel. The 675 feels like its part of you while the 883 feels like you are just a long for the ride.
Make sure you guys see both sides of the nightster. The one side is ugly as hell.
Scout wins all day, not even a question lolol
is Spite wearing a Wisconsin Union shirt?
Actually!! I like to think people built their character into their contender!! EG Busa 100% made in Japan...js
I need your help Papa Noob. I got hit by 18-wheeler on my cbr1100xx going 30 mph 4 years ago. I'm ok. I'm looking for a new motorcycle and had 3 in mind and just wanted your feedback #1 Kawasaki ZH2 SE #2 Ducati Streetfighter v4 #3 Aprilia Tuono V4 Factory. I'm only going to ride on the weekends with friends/ maybe commute one or two days out of the week/ and thanks to you I want to try a track day. Thanks all your great videos and I just recently started listening to your podcast on UA-cam.
No news on the new red ktm supermoto(gasgas)
Hey yams dollar tree has a American made toilet paper.....
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At least it's not a bagger??? Trying to stay positive
If you guys wanna twist off and ride something completely different.... in EVERY way.. i dare you to try and ride a Janus
Wow
Play it safe with a Honda rebel 500 or just go all out with an Indian scout rogue for my first bike?
Scout
I had a rebel 500 and now a Scout, get the scout lol
@@forkthepork hell yeah thanks
@@thabrownieviking say no more man imma get the scout. appreciate the response
Does yammie have a dip in???? Wheres his bottle?
Still wish they would just do lightweiggt adventure less real competition and gets new riders overseas