Bilstein 6112 and 5160 Shocks 3 years later
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- This is an update on the the Bilstein 5160 and 6112's that I replaced the factory Rancho's that GM puts on the Z71. Here are links to all of the products used in this installation:
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I went with the 5160's over the 5100's due to the Chevy Shake issue and I really wanted to be sure I could rule out shocks as a component so I went one step further.
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Thank you for making these videos! They're actually factual and informative.
Glad you have had positive experiences. My 5160’s failed within 3-4 months on my Tundra PRO. I then tried to have the factory Bilstein remote reservoirs rebuilt by Performance Shock Inc in California and Bilstein sent them a firm letter and said they would not send the rebuild parts. I will say living in Colorado the cold winters seem to have took their toll on the 5160s in a fairly quick manner.
I'm buying this exact kit because of you. Thank you for your honest, casual-vibe review. 👌🏿
Still running great over rutted roads as well as farms and rocks on my FJ Cruiser since 2017.
Nice shots of them in action...the bilsteins look pretty sharp!
Thanks I appreciate it.
Great video. Two things I might add. I have the Bilstein 6112/5160's as well. However, I recommend 1 change. The recommended change is replacing the leaf spring shackles with Coachbuilder. I cannot begin to explain the vast difference of a much more supple ride with the combination of the rear Bilstein 5160s and Coachbuilder shackles over OEM, both on and especially off-road. There will be a lot less rear axle hop off-road.
Thanks 🙏
What benefit do shackles give you?
@@Christri height, lower or higher, but for Tacoma it’s best to replace the soft stock springs with new lift springs
THANKS FOR THE INFO 👍
Made the decision to go with these today. This video confirms my beliefs about what I need and want for my new to me low mileage 2019 Tundra.
My tundra with spacers rides like a brick! I'm most likely going to get this setup also. Follow up with how you like it!
Great review
Nice. I just got in the 6112 in front and Icon 2.0 in the rear of my 1999 4RUNNER. Can’t wait to feel the ride now.
I wanted a rebuildable shock in the rear.
The 5160 are rebuildable the 5100 are not
Great review!....really liking the follow up Fridays!!...keep'er rollin!!...stay safe out there!!😎👍🤙👍🤙🇨🇦
Thanks I appreciate it. I figured the follow up Friday series was a good way to address older content when people complain that I never update my experiences with things I have reviewed.
Great video
Just ordered the 6112s and 5160s for my ‘17 f150. Hoping to get rid of the “bucking like a bronco” like you said. Mine see’s a good bit of off road and highway for work. About 90 miles of highway and 10 miles of dirt road a day. Nice video
How are they performing on your truck?
Excellent thanks👍👍
You sold me on this combination. I was looking at the rough country 2-in front suspension coilover shocks that they offer and leaving the rear the way it is but everything you've described when you had your ranchos is what I feel in my Silverado from the factory and it's terrible so I'm very very much ready to upgrade this suspension
The rear shocks is always the first thing I change on my trucks. Get rid of that wheel hop and body roll for fairly cheap.
Great review, exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
I have 5100's all way around on my truck and I have been looking hard at this setup. Nice content. Keep it coming. New subscriber here.
Thanks I appreciate that.
Is it with it to swap from what you have to the 6112’s?
How do you like the 5100s?
@@themechanic1164I have them on my pickup, 2008 Sierra. I have 33s and my truck is leveled, I personally love them. I don't find them to be harsh like some people say. Well worth the price.
Good video!...thanks so much!
You're welcome!
that single cab ford at :56 seconds though! great vid thanks for the review!
I have a 2013 Sierra and I sure need an upgrade. I think I have shocks on the rear and struts up front, I hate it right now I ride over even a small pothole and you can definitely feel the jolt.
About to add this to my 2008 Toyota Sequoia Limited 4WD. Excited to try it out on our local dirt road.
I have a 2011 Sequoia Limited, and I’m contemplating this too. I would love to know how yours turns out. I love the big Beast, but it has oem shocks, and there’s tons of body roll and head toss...
@@watchingforhisreturn4709 really happy with it. I did not know what to expect especially when everyone says that the new shocks are stiffer. I figured it would be bumpier on pavement but that would be the trade-off for not bottoming out on the dirt road.
It really is all-around better. Really impressed. Well worth going above the OEM shocks without breaking the bank and getting crazy on the expensive stuff.
I chose the roughly 2 or 3 inch lift( shock setting on the Bilstein, not a lift kit) in the front. Apparently installing coil spring spacers or a bigger coil springs in the back is quite an ordeal so I’m not going to put money into that. As a result the truck rides nose high which is a little funny but now that I’m used to it, I laugh at the kids that we should’ve put it higher.
No regrets at all about 1000 miles in.
Also got Nitto ridge grappler tires to go with it and they seem to be way better for the dirt road. Well worth doing on a 2011 I think. We have 230,000 miles.
I did the 6112’s in front. 5100 in back. You get a good peak of the front ones easily. Can’t see the back ones.
Good luck!!!
@@fury2200 Thanks!! That helps a lot! I appreciate you taking the time to respond informatively. Mine has 217,000 but has been well cared for. Other than the sagging suspension feel, you’d never tell it isn’t brand new by looking at it or driving it. I currently have rear spacers in my cart along with the shocks, I wonder how involved it is? I’m sure the Nitto’s really complement the looks, besides being a great tire! I run Michelin’s, and for the 20-30% it spends off road, they’ve been great aside from lacking an aggressive look.
Looking forward to see the new truck. I love my Silverado.
Thanks man, I am looking forward to it.
Great Video I own a 2018 z71 4wd wanting to upgrade the suspension.
Yes but the non reservoir rears are lifetime warrantied, and the reservoir shocks are only 90 days so you need to weigh what is important to you with those key differences, the more expensive ones will handle heat better but if you do off road significantly you need to be aware you will be out $200 after 3 months if they do not hold up...
I Really appreciate your video
Hi. Did you change your UCA’s for this upgrade ? And would you recommend it ?
Would the cheaper 5100 front suspension perform well on pot holes and cornerin?
Did replacing the socks and struts fix the vibration
Hell yea I appreciate the review!!!! YEE YEE🤠 keep up the good content 🍻
Combine the 5100 with timberian off road bump stops help a lot.
Good review I have the bilstein 5100 all around in my 2018 Z71. Great improvement over the stock shocks. Are you going to keep the GMC as a second vehicle?
No, the GMC will be getting traded in, I don't have any use for two trucks.
How are these holding up? If you don't mind providing a quick update.
I'm considering these for my 2020 f 150.
@T Hollingsworth I Have this setup on my 2020 F150, and it performs great. Really happy with the purchase.
@@skrsys thanks for the reply. How is the actual ride compared to the factory setup? I just recently changed my 17" wheels on my xlt reg cab over to a set of 18" Ford OEM chrome package wheels that you could get on a supercab. I also have my new cooper AT3 XLTs on there. I want to lift the front maybe an inch and I'm wondering how much stiffer the ride will be. Thanks.
@@thollingsworth4910 The ride is improved from factory, it's just as smooth with no bounce. That's why I went with the 6112's because they're thicker than the 5100 they absorb the smaller bumps better. And they come with springs that are tuned to work with them. One thing you have to keep in mind is the tires, they play a big part in ride quality. A lot of guys tend to increase psi when you upgrade tires, to maintain stock ride you need to run tires at 35psi. I'm running BFG KO2's I've increased mine to 40 psi to get better MPG's and it seems to have kept close to the same ride quality as stock. I did run it at 35 psi and it was better than stock in every way.
How would the rear holdup with pulling a camper?
Does Bilstein make 6112 Coil Over for Rear?
Do the 5160s add a small lift to the rear as well?
I'm looking at these shocks for my 2020 tacoma trd offroad I like what you're saying about them.
Good luck finding the 6112s anywhere. 10-12 week lead time!
@@sourkraut5369 I think if they're that good, they're worth the wait.
@@1116Redneck this is the case for just about any shock on the market right now. since covid screwed up production all these companies are playing catch up. I believe Kings are like 16-20 weeks lead time. Even 5100s are 12 weeks lead time.
@@sourkraut5369 guess I better get my order in asap
@@1116Redneck definitely. They are a great shock. Best bang for your buck in my opinion
Stock shocks/struts on my 4Runner lasted 230,000 miles, and were still adequate. I decided to replace them when doing front end overhaul - again, nothing was wrong with any of the suspension components but I lifted it a bit and installed AM UCA's to accommodate lift and to get caster within specs.
One bilstein strut blew up in less than a year of on-road driving.
Their warranty is not worth the paper it's written on - the shock is $90, they demand photos (that I provided) but they also want me to send the bad part to them on my dime AND pay for a return replacement shipping if (IF!!!) they (THEY) find it defective which costs you $50. Again, it's the best case-scenario providing they DO find it defective. Otherwise, you are out of shipping cost AND have no strut.
Sweet deal. NOT! It might be "german engineering" but it's mexican manufacturing and american "business attitude" towards customers.
FOX warranty is no better if not worst. I blew out a new shock and they didnt just want pictures. They wanted me to take the shock off the truck, pack it up, ship it to the USA (I live in Canada) so they could inspect it and see if it would be warrantied . So I just bought a new replacement shock. Been running Bilsteins on my truck now and I like them better then the FOX 2.0's.
@@BoostedBoyd That's exactly experience I had with belstein. To summarize, these days "business" and "scam" are synonyms. I am old enough to remember when you could pay premium price for a premium product. Today, "brand names" charge you premium price for the same garbage you can get for a fraction of the cost. There is no product on the market without numerous negative reviews (unless there are 5 reviews only, and all were written by the manufacturer). The best scenario is 80% positive, and you can only hope not to end up in the remaining 20%.
I put the 6112s/5160s on my 4th gen 4Runner. Both 6112s started leaking (around the 2 year mark) and one 5160 failed (busted at the stem). They want the same thing: remove them and ship them back for inspection. Uh, okay. What would you have me do in the meantime? Walk? I know I won't waste more money on more 6112s. Might just buy 5100s, since they're way cheaper. Ah, but you can't use the springs from the 6112s with them, so now I have to go buy different springs. It's annoying when you spend money on "better than stock" parts that turn out to be junk.
@@PervertedThang One thing I've learned over decades of professional and personal experience: when it comes from Toyota, there is no such thing as "better than stock". Sometimes I do cut corners with aftermarket stuff but only when it's REAL cheap AND there is no much labor involved in replacement.
@@nofyfb123 I wanted a bit of lift and durable shocks. I got one of those two.
The XREAS on the 4Runner was original and loooooonnnnng gone when I replaced it. I wasn't going to put XREAS back on, either.
Any chance you have any videos comparing Bilstein 8112/8100 Vs 6112/5160
Great review! finding the Bilstein 6112 front coilovers is impossible for 2007 Tahoe/Suburban LT 4x4. Called Bilstein in Germany and the guy was clueless as to where is US to get.
Are the 6112’s stiff like the 5100’s? I had 5100’s and they were pretty firm, and only lasted me a little over 2yrs.
Very curious how these are working out longer term -- and how they handle the everyday jolts and jostles of the road. I don't mind the ride on my Excursion, but it's pretty bumpy for passengers who aren't used to it. One of the previous owners put Bilstein 4600s on it.
Where are you located? I am thinking buying this struts and shocks from you before you trade the truck in
Hello there. Hey, thank you for the video. I have lifted 2014 silverado but I would like to lower it down. This combination of shocks seem great. Are you still happy with them? The current kit is 7", However, I would like your set up or maybe a 4". do you have any feedback about it? Did you have to install something else besides the shocks for a proper set up? Any advise will help, thank you.
I hope you do a video w the new truck & shocks. I just picked up my 21 lariat fx4. It's my 1st fx4 soo I'm going to need all the input I can get before switching over...
I hated my ranchos, love my 5100's Nice vid thanks!
Did your 6112 settle at at all? Trying to decide between 2 inch and 1.6 setting.
Have you driven off road yet? How is it? Smooth?
You are gonna want the same set up on the f150. Do it quick.
Make no mistake, you will be putting these on you FX4! Buddy put them on his new Ranger and it was night & day difference.
Got a 2020 ranger and the stock shocks were terrible. I put in fox shocks and coilovers and it is 10x better
Hi Brent, could you tell more how it handles on the road etc, bumps and the street, cornering.
Thank you!
Brad
@@thedude9999 Hi Tim, could you give me some details about your Fox's shocks . How are they on just the road, cornering bumps. just every day driving.
Thank you.
Brad.
@@brad4527 when I come down my driveway, the cab rocks left to right 3 or 4 times. Open the door of your ranger push up on the roof door frame and see how many times it rocks.
@@basstobasscookingbrentbabi5411 thank you
bring on the moto stuff.... We can go over stock Ohlins on a OEM Ducati vs aftermarket Ohlins on a V4Base and a V4R
Looks like your in Arizona 😮
Looks like I will be putting aside some cash :( but that will be my next up grade, Thanks
How are they over small bumps off-road / onroad (pothole, Manhole, speed bump, etc)? I've heard the digressive shock valving is kind of hard on small bumps. Have you noticed that?
Too bad he hasn’t answered your question. I’m wounder the same before I buy.
@@BenBen-eu5wx me too!
Digressive valving is kind of a weird thing. I wouldn't want it for a truck or fourwheeler. What I use are the Bilstein 7100s, which are linear-valved, same as what Fox and King use. The 7100s are also easily rebuildable/revalvable. And you can control the N2 pressure (recommended is 180-220 PSI) via a Schrader valve, so you're not stuck with the 300+ PSI that the 51xx shocks use. Pressure that high doesn't help the ride any. Linear valved and lower pressure is the way to go, IMHO.
Unfortunately, Bilstein doesn't make strut/coilover versions of the 7100s. They're only offered in "universal" eye-eye shocks, either with or without reservoirs.
@@SDwriter.and.surfer wow that’s amazing information I didn’t know that! Thank you so much for the information, I’ll definitely start reviewing that for sure! Be safe and best wishes.
@@SDwriter.and.surfer i agree with you, had some 5100 of my 15' yukon and they sre far better than stock in terms of rebound and ride control, however they are also far stiffer of the little bumps and cracks and also cause the wheel to slam into the ground when briefly airborn. This got me thinking that although the 6112 would probably be highly pressurized, the issue is also the springs. Now the 6112 comes paired with springs that have double the ammount of wounded coil, that means its going to be more compliant. Really wondering whether to get the 6112s or not...cant afford to be a test mule yet again :p.
Did you ever find a fix for your shake?
Yeah, I bought a new truck.
If you put the Sierra back to stock I'll take those Bilsteins off your hands :)
What about trailering?
Have you towed anything with those shocks.
Yes. I towed a Crown Vic 750 miles from Sacramento to Phoenix and a bunch of around town towing. They are awesome.
I have 5100's on all four corners on my 2021 GMC Sierra AT4 (6.2L). I started with the rears and immediatly noticed how much better they are vs the stock Ranchos. Then, I had the front struts replaced (1.25" lift setting). The front bouncy-bounce is now gone...firmer ride, but not too 5-ton military truck like feeling. As for the rears, I am considering replacing with the reservoir shocks...but, not sure if it is really needed. Are they too firm vs the 5100? Lastly, Bilstein is pronounced "Bill Stine" not "Bill Steene". Call the company or ask any native German speaker.
I have a 2020 Silverado with the Z71 and I'm trying to find a solution to the bouncieness over dips and the body roll on corners without sacraficing too much ride comfort. I'm considering the 6112/5160 setup. When you said the ride was firmer, how firm are we talking about compared to the Ranchos? Is it harsh where you feel every seam in the road, or is it just a little more firmer than stock?
@@DucDNA -- IMHO - A "little" firmer vs the stock Ranchos. Overall feel and control is improved. You don't feel seams on the road...unlike hard shocks that will remove fillings. The Bilsteins are simply better built for a more controlled and predictable ride. Hope this helps. This is second truck I have these on and love them. I have had hard shocks and soft Ranchos...the Bilsteins are right in the middle with proper engineering and fitment
@@ChrisDIYerOklahoma Thanks Chris for your comments on the Bilsteins!
Have you looked into SumoSprings?
I just received Bilstein 6112/5160 for my truck. I'll have them installed on Tuesday then hope to provide my review by next Sunday. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that my ride quality on the street will improve.
I went with Fox coil overs up front with bilstein 5160 in the rear. Mostly cause 6112 can’t be found
How is that working out so far? I’m literally thinking of doing the exact opposite of your set up but with 6112 front and fox 2.0 non coilover rear.
@@dad3562 my fox 2.0 rear shocks are garbage. They make my ‘21 so stiff. I literally bounce sideways on gravel roads and it’s frustrating.
@@stevenpigott3038 daaaaaaang!
@@stevenpigott3038 the FOX 2.0's are def harsh. The rebound rate is much slower then the Bilstein 5100. Truck handles like a go cart tho with the FOX 2.0 lol. I'm just about to order a new set of Bilsteins to replace these 2.0's just so my ride is a little softer. I've ran both and for my everyday driving the Bilsteins is my pick.
My 2017 silverado does alot of bunny hopping that rear end just seems squirrely definitely thinks its time to do something
Are the 5160s a good shock to upgrade to for light to medium duty towing?
Absolutely, i run them on my 2016 Toyota tundra 4x4 as well as my 1997 Toyota Tacoma 4x4. The tundra pulls a trailer with 4 ATVs and a 22 foot boat. Spectacular ride.
I have a 2002 tacoma pre runner which feels every bump in the rear does anyone have the bilsteins in a older truck?
about to install 6112s in my 3rd gen 4runner, I currently have 5100s on it
I Put 5100's On My 2010 Tacoma Pre-Runner And Lifted The Front To The First Notch, 15/16" I Believe, And My Truck Looked Better And Rode Much Better. Had Them On For About 3-4 Years Now. II Have A Heavy Fiberglass Cover On Bed Of Truck Also. I Would Recommend them. Haven't Driven It Much This Past Year Since I Bought A F-150.
Spend a little more and go with Stage 1-2.5" Icons in the front and Icon 2.0" rear. I had Bilstiens on my 3rd gen 4runner and hated it. The Icons are amazing
All oems put cheapest shocks they can on a truck......anything is an improvement to be fair
Would rather a progressive valved shock than digressive....just personal preference (had 5100s for a time)
How far you want to go is endless.....good value for sure
Also I hear fox customer service is shiat as well.....king is right down the street from me and eibach another 20 minutes.....I would prefer to do business with a place I can actually go to if problem arises
Tbh if your paying $100 fir a shock, how much can you really expect....
Buy another and slap it on if it causes problems
Any mass produced item will have discrepencies......it happens
Look at 1:00. Am I the only one eyeballing the white F-150?
HAHA good catch. Super clean
Why waste your money on the 5160's if you don't regularly offroad?
@Bryan Milligan They look great!
Its all based on need but 5100s and identical to the 5160. Only difference is the resi. So with that being said if you don't offroad save a few hundred and go with 5100s.
if money it not an issue then why not? Its better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it
Sand shovel > wench for the beach.
I put bilsteins on my 21 trail boss, omg it’s a different truck. It’s sad GM still uses them junk ass Ranchos on. 60k$ truck
Which ones did you get? The 5100s or 6112?
Shock Surplus mention all 5160s shocks have a 90 day warranty!
Bilstein do not believe it’s worth giving a longer warranty SAD. , must be made “junk”..?
Research this …read some owners had leaks on their 5160 under a year and NO warranty…
Got out of a GMC to get into a Ford while overlooking a RAM. That's a Miss.
I didn’t overlook anything.
Those 5400s are so stiff ,there not worth getting at all
Your $1200 shocks outperformed the stock GM made in china $300 shocks. Am I shocked or am I shook? Neither
For your general street use and an occasional low speed gravel road are you really seeing the intended benefit of the high capacity options you installed, when a properly sprung 5100 package does the exact same thing for $700 or less depending on what springs you need up front? 20 mile stretches of desert washboard at 40+ mph, sure, but for most people all that heat dissipation capacity you paid a $500 surcharge for is unused.
@@Ethan-um7cp you are exactly right. For most the 5100's is the right setup. People think they need more but in reality it will be less comfortable for everyday use getting groceries
Great video but Bilstein is pronounced Bil-stine with a long i not Bil-steen.
U want to sponsored me?
I am just a UA-camr, I dont sponsor people.
Just jooking bro
If anything he could teach you how to spell and type… even though majority of technology has auto correct haha 😆
You’d never get a sponsor with improper literature..
and you dont have to rebuild those Bilsteins every 30k miles......
No, because both of my 6112s failed in front with less than that on them, so they're junk now.
I don't like the rancho's on anything there way to soft and don't dampen well and there rebound sucks
How are the 5160 with motorcycle in bed?
Add heavy coil springs.
Shocks are for bumps springs are for weight
Cool, so, go ahead and shoot me $400 and I’ll upgrade to those reservoir shocks. Lol.
I went from rancho to the bilstein and it’s night and day. Rancho is cheap
get off the left lane
I stop watching when you said Is fair amount of off roading, Construction sites, Truck clean as a whistle, And you don't even have so much as a farmer's tan. This just isn't for someone like me, but good luck With your youtube channel, person.
Ahhh yes. Someone who judges someone based on nonsense. Pay no mind that I had skin cancer from too much sun exposure so anytime I am going to be in the sun for any length of time I cover up and/ or wear a shit load of sunscreeen. Also, just because someone keeps their truck clean, doesn’t mean they don’t take it off road or on job sites, it means they take care of their shit. I spent 15 years as a construction PM and have had my truck buried to the frame rails having to be pulled out by tractors. Im happy I’m not “like you” because your a person who just passes judgement like a douche based on fabricated bullshit just to make yourself feel cooler. Definitely not my kind of person.
This guy doesn't know anything about shocks. The Rancho shock is a twin tube shock. Bilstein is a monotube shock. The 6112 means Bilstein is including the suspension spring. Bilstein sells the 5100 series which is shock only. Monotube is different technology. More responsive. Reservoir means nothing on road.
Lol. Everyone loves “Ackchyually” guy. Thanks for chiming in.
You're wrong LOL. 5100 is 2 inch body and 6112 is 2.5 inch body. 6112 is a much beefier strut.
Could you provide any info on part #47-310834… appears to be very similar to 47-273702