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  • Опубліковано 2 гру 2024

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  • @AS34N
    @AS34N 5 місяців тому +73

    You sound exhausting to be around.

  • @MyAmazingUsername
    @MyAmazingUsername 8 місяців тому +29

    "Undertale mixed with Earthbound. People loved Undertale. People loved Earthbound. What can go wrong?"

  • @chronred8190
    @chronred8190 11 місяців тому +76

    sooo.. .the issue is that the character is emotional and that the game is in early access? i mean.. it's pretty obvious that things won't be explained early on-that's like expecting Undertale to show you in detail who Asgore is from the Ruins. and that you cannot run- which is the same in... many rpg's; there are those where you can run, but most that isn't an option

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  11 місяців тому +12

      I’ll be honest and say I don’t remember my exact complaints in this video but my main issues were that there was almost no fun gameplay and that the plot was completely unintelligible, not that the main character is too emotional and that the game is in early access. Also the thing about running wouldn’t be a big deal if the main character’s walk speed isn’t so abysmally slow

    • @chronred8190
      @chronred8190 11 місяців тому +10

      @@WitherVideos i guess that's fair! though the plot wasn't that confusing to me-as far as i could tell, basically the protagonist had an abusive household, encountered some supernatural beings, his dog got kidnapped and messed with and the protagonist is now on some multiversal travel to find the fragments his dog was split into and bring him back to life; that's essentially the idea i was getting-

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  11 місяців тому +2

      @@chronred8190 I don’t know, I haven’t played it in a while, but I’m glad you enjoyed it even though I wasn’t able to!

    • @chronred8190
      @chronred8190 11 місяців тому +1

      @@WitherVideos oh! nah, i just watched some playthroughs xd
      and i do agree that the gameplay was a bit tedious; but to me it is better than those mindless hack and slash or afk survival rpg's where you just constantly kill without variety without story just murder murder and more murder often times without much risk

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  11 місяців тому +6

      @@chronred8190 Ah, for me personally monotonous but fun gameplay with no story is more fun than boring gameplay with good story, but I can see why someone would prefer the other way around

  • @pablonaming-ton9544
    @pablonaming-ton9544 29 днів тому +2

    The fact that this is one of the only reviews of this game is insane. I remember seeing a review of this game from a guy with a snoz pfp (the weird nose guy from berserk) it was a pretty entertaining video. He called thor a nepo baby a bunch though. The video got taken down by Thor. He made a follow up video addressing it. Then his channel disappeared. Its fucking crazy. I can't find a trace of him. His content was edgy but he made (to my knowledge) the only well constructed review of the game even though it's been in early access for 7 years. Got his channel nuked all because he made fun of Thor all throughout the video I'm assuming

  • @phoboszelus
    @phoboszelus 7 місяців тому +16

    This is such a smoothbrain shit take. But I'm not the only one telling you that so I'm not even going to bother with the counterpoints to avoid beating a dead horse.

    • @UnfazedPhoenix
      @UnfazedPhoenix 5 місяців тому +5

      His explanation was terribly said but he's right the game is a flop.

    • @phoboszelus
      @phoboszelus 5 місяців тому +2

      @@UnfazedPhoenix if his explanation is terribly said and you didn't even pose one then why even comment your opinion

    • @connorgillispie7128
      @connorgillispie7128 3 місяці тому

      Which take? That it’s boring?

    • @redbush5483
      @redbush5483 Місяць тому

      @@phoboszelus this is just the new yandere sim. Promising game brought down by a lazy dev

    • @UrienOld
      @UrienOld Місяць тому

      @@phoboszelusyou didn’t bother to explain anything either lmao

  • @WezzleG
    @WezzleG Рік тому +77

    Are you doing a bad Cartman voice on purpose?
    Can barely understand a word you are saying.

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  Рік тому +17

      No, that is just actually how my voice sounded when I made this. I apologize. If you’re still wanting to watch this I believe I added captions.

    • @jgrax
      @jgrax 2 місяці тому

      ​@@WitherVideos based response

  • @GoogleAccount-kw1mz
    @GoogleAccount-kw1mz 7 місяців тому +10

    im just commenting because i need a like for um. emotional support.

  • @nomadoverdrive
    @nomadoverdrive Місяць тому +1

    Oh my word that sound at the start absolutely creased me up

  • @TheDienhart
    @TheDienhart 7 місяців тому +9

    … you said the game was fun, then said game wasn’t fun… then proceed to like every comment. Such a troll.

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  7 місяців тому +3

      Wait did I actually contradict myself like that? I made this a while ago and honestly don’t remember. Also for the liking comments thing it’s really funny to react to comments salty over me having an unpopular opinion with a heart and nothing else

    • @ScootsMcPoot
      @ScootsMcPoot 6 місяців тому +3

      You contradicted yourself every 5 seconds

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  6 місяців тому +1

      @@ScootsMcPoot Examples?

    • @jordantyo7839
      @jordantyo7839 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@WitherVideosHe has none, that's why he's pretending you asked nothing

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  5 місяців тому

      @@jordantyo7839 Yeah you probably arent wrong

  • @pindropquiet9732
    @pindropquiet9732 4 місяці тому +2

    Also, I wouldn't say the story is BAD perchance, but it's more like it is poorly presented with minimal exposition.

  • @Evanz111
    @Evanz111 4 місяці тому +10

    Shocking that the game has “overwhelmingly positive” on Steam. You say you have nothing against the devs which I respect, but I do have an issue.
    I was going through the negative reviews of the game, so many people who had bought it because of its spectacular review score, but they had no idea it was being made by a streamer so they were really disappointed by the actual quality. He’s basically using his massive audience and influence to manipulate the steam charts, which feels so scummy. Not to mention his promised “monthly updates” when the game hasn’t had anything added in nearly 10 months now, and it’s still very thin on content.

    • @RubiksHnK
      @RubiksHnK 4 місяці тому +11

      Thor has not pushed his audience to put positive or negative reviews. As someone that found his stream about 8 months ago and watched almost every live stream, I can say that.
      He also constantly tells people to play the demo and if they like the demo then they will probably like the game. If they don't, then don't buy the game.
      If the people complaining, "oH StRiMMeR BloaT reViEWs" would have played the free demo first there wouldn't be anything to complain about as they would have found out the game wasn't for them without paying a thing.
      ... Imagine not trying an available demo and just buying a game you know nothing about then complaining because you didn't like it.

    • @dudu28r81
      @dudu28r81 4 місяці тому +8

      Lmao no, Thor had like less than 5k subs until the channel exploded and it has always been sitting at "overwhelmingly positive" after being put on steam
      I def agree with the rest, feels like we're waiting forever, this game has been in development for over half a decade now, its not even funny.

    • @Evanz111
      @Evanz111 4 місяці тому +3

      @@dudu28r81 Ooh I didn’t actually know that, so thanks for the extra context. Just a shame because the potential of the game is great, but Thor seems to be so busy that the promised updates can’t be released in time.

    • @connorgillispie7128
      @connorgillispie7128 3 місяці тому

      @@RubiksHnKok fanboy

    • @RubiksHnK
      @RubiksHnK 3 місяці тому +3

      @@connorgillispie7128 can you link any shred of proof that I’m wrong instead of trying to insult? As someone that has a lot of similar hobbies I don’t see the problem of watching his streams just as everyone has a preferred social media presence for hobbies they are into.

  • @azriel4772
    @azriel4772 3 місяці тому +2

    Dude put the sound effect so we knew what to expect from his take.💀

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  3 місяці тому

      @@azriel4772 Sound effect? I apologize if I’m forgetting something stupid since I haven’t made this in a while

  • @pindropquiet9732
    @pindropquiet9732 4 місяці тому +7

    I can see your point of view in the way that it feels half-baked, but I think the point of releasing it early was to show off some of the cool aspects without having it basically finished. It's just a teaser calm down.

    • @redacted8843
      @redacted8843 3 місяці тому +5

      bro it's a singleplayer top-down RPG you could make in RPG maker with mechanics stolen from undertale and it's been in early access for seven fucking years, what are we even teasing at this point?

  • @challachallington4913
    @challachallington4913 2 роки тому +25

    to bad you didn't like the game but I do respect your opinion

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  2 роки тому +9

      Thank you for respecting my opinion, that's somewhat rare on the internet!

    • @challachallington4913
      @challachallington4913 2 роки тому +4

      @@WitherVideos hehe yea

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  2 роки тому +4

      @@challachallington4913 May I ask what you enjoyed about the game? I'm curious to see what people like about it

    • @challachallington4913
      @challachallington4913 2 роки тому +7

      @@WitherVideos I would be glad to tell you why ok reason 1 I love the art reason 2 I think it has a lot of potential reason 3 there are so many different choices you can make that change the story in so many different ways I do agree with you that the Tower was boring but yeah

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  2 роки тому +6

      @@challachallington4913 Cool, thanks for the reply!

  • @Fierying
    @Fierying Місяць тому

    thanks for being a little more extensive than other reviews, though i really wished you could expand a little more on what about the dialogue or gameplay being boring or bad. Is it them being just extensively long and leads to nowhere, does the puzzle mechanics let you do some thinking or was it a monotonous fetch quest with nothing else?
    thanks for making the video!

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  Місяць тому +1

      Hey, thanks for leaving a comment! I haven’t played the game in several years so I can’t really answer all your questions, but I think my newer reviews are quite a bit more comprehensive

    • @Fierying
      @Fierying Місяць тому

      @@WitherVideos sweet, will take a look when i have more time, thank you!

  • @Iredecent
    @Iredecent 6 місяців тому +5

    hey its been about 2 - 3 years, how about reviewing this again?
    i think the music is really nice.

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  6 місяців тому

      Unfortunately I don’t think my thoughts would’ve changed, and I also don’t really want to play through this again. Also do you mean the background music or the ingame music, because the music in this video is from earthbound

    • @Iredecent
      @Iredecent 6 місяців тому +1

      @@WitherVideos ingame music, i like the one called tree spirits, also i think you might like spiritfarer, sadly the demo of the game doesnt represent the game itself correctly.
      its completely different

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  6 місяців тому

      @@Iredecent Ah, cool. I remember it having decent music. Also I have not played spiritfarer but it looks interesting, I might check it out sometime

    • @aceman0000099
      @aceman0000099 6 місяців тому +1

      Its been 1 year and 7 months hahaha where did you get 2-3 years from 😂

    • @Iredecent
      @Iredecent 6 місяців тому

      ????

  • @oo--7714
    @oo--7714 5 місяців тому +6

    7 years and still early acess, my man is yandere dev. Wait yandere devs game yandere simulator 1980 has more content and is free compared to this £8, that is still in early acess and is like 1 hour long. Honestly wild, how 2 similar devs underdelivering hard can be viewed so differently.

    • @dudu28r81
      @dudu28r81 4 місяці тому +3

      The reason is because Thor is a very nice person otherwise. He just sucks at actually making the game lol

  • @UnfazedPhoenix
    @UnfazedPhoenix 5 місяців тому +5

    The way he phrased the review was bad, but he's right. The game is boring, doesn't follow through on story lines, and was overall a flop. It tried to be an Undertale ripoff and failed miserably. If you've played it at all that is 100% fact. They even use the heart symbol almost the same way and when you die you get a blank screen with text that reads "you must not give up" it's completely ridiculous 😂

    • @foursidekm
      @foursidekm 3 місяці тому

      Isn't it more likely that both undertale and heartbound took the "you must not give up" from earthbound?

  • @Oxxyjoe
    @Oxxyjoe 10 місяців тому +5

    The game performs poorly as a game,
    but how does it perform as art?
    I ask because this game has all the signs of wanting to be seen as art.
    I only watched 2 minutes of your review and stopped, and that's because I don't want to spoil the game for myself if I do play it, which, at this point it looks like I will no matter what, eventually.
    Anyway enough beating around the bush.
    The art-game is really awesome when done well, just like when you read an awesome book. And the kind of game that excels at this is rarely also a strong gameplay experience.
    Examples of games which do both that come to mind are: The Outer Wilds, Red Dead Redemption II, Kingdom Come: Deliverance, The Long Dark, Inscryption, etc etc... In other words, really big Hits have both strong gameplay and engaging story.
    Many great games are just one or the other. Visual-novels don't need to have engaging elements, although my opinion is that they would all benefit from having them. This game attempts to do that somewhat. I mean it feels as if Thor (author of Heartbound) wanted to make an Undertale-like game and do what it did, with meta and choices, layered on actual gameplay. And I know he's still working on the game,
    but when it's Too unfinished, releasing it might sabotage it. But that's what the "Early Access" is supposed to warn us about. Like, it's supposed to say "You are getting Something, but it's nothing like what the end result will be." Anyway I appreciate your review. It feels like an important lesson that good things take time, and often involve real obstacles. People want to succeed without any hurdles, which is wonderful, but that isn't realistic. and... being realistic might get down to business with hurdles rather than ignore them. But hey, that's just a theory. A GAME THEORY Ok that was silly. Anyway, I invite you to try any of the games I listed above, to me they are all quite delightful. There are a hundred other games I love. And we are spoiled for choice which means the bar has been raised. Anyway you didn't ask for such a lengthy reply...
    I feel like people want to be bailed out of mistakes they make rather than corrected on how there are mistakes... and that's not going to get the game finished.
    One thing I can appreciate is that he does a monthly update, where he posts the work that's been done in that month. So that's cool. It also makes me realize that I may indeed want to wait until it is finished. Man.. choices choices.

    • @UnfazedPhoenix
      @UnfazedPhoenix 5 місяців тому +3

      It doesn't perform as either. It's a flop. Also, you essentially just wrote a novel after not even listening to the reason why it's a flop 😂

    • @Oxxyjoe
      @Oxxyjoe 5 місяців тому +2

      @@UnfazedPhoenix having not even played it, I wouldn't have known if it was a flop or not.
      How much credibility should I give your opinion, that it's bad in both regards?
      your comment did get me to finish the video though, it's not even 5 minutes long, plus I did play the demo already.
      I felt like the game misses what it wants to achieve possibly, but I don't really know that. like, I can't simultaneously judge something based on what I want and appreciate its uniqueness. But what I will say is that it feels unfinished, and not just because all I played was the demo. I just mean that the game's opening could use some help. The story feels kinda thrown at me, and Lore's feelings don't come across as meaningful because they are not conveyed well. like, the fact that he and his dog are intellectual equals, feels entirely out of this world and kinda fake. I guess maybe you need to be a dog person to enjoy this game? are you also not a dog person? that would explain it if so
      kidding aside though, it's rough around the edges, but maybe you aren't the target audience. And those who are the target audience will like it anyway? idk
      I've played a lot of really awful games. do you remember newgrounds? so this rates well in terms of like, a really polished looking game that still has flaws because it's made by an inexperienced solo developer.
      and yeah the dev has a lot of experience doing Other things, but making games? nah. he still has a long way to go. we all gotta make some bad games before we make good ones. I'm not saying this one Is bad, I'm just saying that it probably isn't a home run on the first swing kind of situation.
      sorry if that is too much of a 2 hour documentary. I know a novel would be a bit much to expect someone to read :)

    • @dudu28r81
      @dudu28r81 4 місяці тому +4

      Unfortunately the monthly updates are extremely inconsistent with no reason given

  • @Jorora
    @Jorora 10 місяців тому +3

    I need to play this game next! You definitely have some spicy takes for some pretty popular games 😂 To be fair I'm pretty susceptible to liking a game if the art and music direction is compelling enough to guide the story convincingly. This game seems to have that potential. Although I'll have to play it first to find out if it's actually insufferable with its dialogue or if it's just a matter of taste.

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  10 місяців тому +5

      If you do check it out I hope you enjoy it!

  • @h4rm5_w4y
    @h4rm5_w4y Місяць тому

    I had the same experience with your Video and Voice

  • @ej2u545
    @ej2u545 5 місяців тому

    Here is why I disagree. Heart bound is still in very early access. The game will feel gummy in some parts. I agree that some parts of the levels are a bit too wide and expensive for how slow the movement is, but the game doesn’t need a run. I don’t think it’s one of the worst games I have ever played either. The only thing I can agree with is that it’s hard to sometimes get in the position to talk to NPC‘s. But even then the creator is straight up said that’s gonna be fixed. Even though this game is not my type of game I can acknowledge the potential behind it, along the way I even enjoyed it points. But your complaints sound like someone who doesn’t really like the game genre that this game is.
    You are fully entitled to your opinion. But to me it seems like the issues you have with the game are being fixed as we speak. I would like to see you revisit the game when it’s fully released because I’m going to.

    • @Evanz111
      @Evanz111 4 місяці тому +7

      “Very early access” - it’s been available for sale for four years, and he’s allegedly working on it every single day? How is that very early?

  • @challachallington4913
    @challachallington4913 2 роки тому +1

    did you hear about space funeral 25

  • @Mysterygamer
    @Mysterygamer 8 місяців тому +4

    And I suppose YOUR game you have created and Made is so much better is it ?

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  8 місяців тому +4

      No. In fact it’s probably objectively worse

    • @Aburner1109
      @Aburner1109 7 місяців тому +21

      You're allowed to criticize art as a *consumer* without being a good *artist*. It's a non-argument that doesn't add anything to the conversation at all

    • @stephens3909
      @stephens3909 2 місяці тому +2

      What you did here is called appeal to accomplishment...
      It's a logical fallacy because it doesn’t address the substance of the original review (e.g., the game's quality or issues). Instead, you shift the argument to an attack of the critic's qualifications, which aren't relevant to whether the review is valid.
      It's lazy, it's dumb, undoubtedly hypocritical and you need to do better.

  • @sacinian690493
    @sacinian690493 3 місяці тому

    You contradict your statements just to say you have an opinion when you dont.

  • @nestihado
    @nestihado 7 місяців тому +1

    2:1 downvote to upvote ratio. That says it all

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  7 місяців тому +4

      It does indeed say that people can’t handle others’ opinions. And also that this video sucks

    • @ScootsMcPoot
      @ScootsMcPoot 6 місяців тому +1

      Video sucks because your opinions aren't valid to be fair. You cant judge a game by personal bias. Because 8 out of 10 people enjoyed it. So is that saying something about the game or your bias

    • @diegon2064
      @diegon2064 5 місяців тому +5

      ​@@ScootsMcPootor... People's bias
      The game has been in early access for more than 5 years

    • @pindropquiet9732
      @pindropquiet9732 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ScootsMcPoot hey calm down maybe...

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  3 місяці тому

      @@ScootsMcPoot What are you talking about? That is literally what a review is. Fun fact, in the 8 out of 10 people who liked the game, there are in fact 2 who didn’t

  • @Warpgatez
    @Warpgatez 10 місяців тому +5

    Cries For no reason? Yeah you didn’t pay attention.
    Your game review is bad. It’s okay you didn’t like it.

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  10 місяців тому +2

      Yeah I may have not been the best at media analysis at this point in my life

    • @ScootsMcPoot
      @ScootsMcPoot 6 місяців тому +1

      At this point? It was 7 months before that comment

    • @UnfazedPhoenix
      @UnfazedPhoenix 5 місяців тому +1

      The way he phrased the review was bad, but he's right. The game is boring, doesn't follow through on story lines, and was overall a flop. It tried to be an Undertale ripoff and failed miserably. If you've played it at all that is 100% fact. They even use the heart symbol almost the same way and when you die you get a blank screen with text that reads "you must not give up" it's completely ridiculous 😂

    • @connorgillispie7128
      @connorgillispie7128 3 місяці тому

      @@ScootsMcPoot🫵🤓🫵

  • @Nosafune
    @Nosafune 10 місяців тому +3

    This was just a bad review lol

  • @skeech1979
    @skeech1979 2 місяці тому

    You sound like you’re 12 years old.

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  2 місяці тому

      I pretty much was when I made this so checks out

  • @stephane5346
    @stephane5346 10 днів тому

    reddit accent

  • @connorgillispie7128
    @connorgillispie7128 3 місяці тому +3

    I agree man this game is terrible

  • @paulcrowe3383
    @paulcrowe3383 3 місяці тому

    I feel like you need to blow your nose or sit up straight and lift your head off your jaw so your air ways are not compressed. because your voice is crazy nasally.

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  3 місяці тому

      @@paulcrowe3383 Yeah I’m sorry about that, when I made this my voice was ridiculously nasally

  • @Degenvoxi
    @Degenvoxi 7 місяців тому

    Your audio is worse than this game

  • @vixyp0p
    @vixyp0p 7 місяців тому

    the only reason people are respecting your opinion is bec we're all Pirate software children

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  7 місяців тому +3

      You’re welcome, hope you like the game!

    • @aceman0000099
      @aceman0000099 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@WitherVideoswell done on handling the comments so graciously

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  6 місяців тому +1

      @@aceman0000099 Thank you! I don’t like humoring annoying people all too much

  • @sfglim5341
    @sfglim5341 10 місяців тому +1

    i mean this review doesnt mean much from someone who thinks omori is bad 🤷
    also why review an EA game thats quite rude and little embarrassing, can guarantee in a couple years you'll delete this vid
    also work on your pronunciation I cant understand a word you're saying
    btw if u get mad at this comment just remember "its just my opinion bro"

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  10 місяців тому +5

      I mean the pronunciation thing is completely valid, at this point I didn't know how to say words apparently. Sorry you had to deal with that! Also everything is also just my opinion including disliking Omori so I see no reason to remove the video in a few years even if my opinion on the game changes. Sorry you had to deal with a different opinion, I know it's tough

    • @ScootsMcPoot
      @ScootsMcPoot 6 місяців тому +1

      Your arrogance is the problem. Not that we don't accept your opinion. You reviewed something and gave 0 insight while contradicting yourself. Generally as a rule of thumb, when you review something. Especially a super early game. Have some actual constructive criticism. Don't say the game is "bad" than 2 seconds later say its not. You didn't bring up any valid points, you didn't obviously pay attention to the game. It's not the opinion, it's the poor attempt of criticism. I think fallout games are awful. But if I made a video. If detail why. And how it could change to change my opinion. You didn't make your criticism personal. You made it general. With no input. So for future videos, research game dev. Research the process and simple programming knowledge so you can give actual constructive criticism. I wouldn't care so much if you reviewed a full patched release. You tried to crap on a tech demo with minimal gameplay. It was for major bugs and to see what happens when players do what players do and find game breaks etc. Game devs need a solid foundation before they build on it. That's the beauty of early release. We didn't have that 20 years ago, because everything was physical.

    • @UnfazedPhoenix
      @UnfazedPhoenix 5 місяців тому

      The way he phrased the review was bad, but he's right. The game is boring, doesn't follow through on story lines, and was overall a flop. It tried to be an Undertale ripoff and failed miserably. If you've played it at all that is 100% fact. They even use the heart symbol almost the same way and when you die you get a blank screen with text that reads "you must not give up" it's completely ridiculous 😂

    • @WitherVideos
      @WitherVideos  3 місяці тому

      @@ScootsMcPoot Sorry for the late reply, I didn’t get the notification! It’s been a while since I made this video so while I still agree with everything I said in it, I’m sure I could’ve phrased it all much better. Also I am a game developer and know how to program, including when I made this, so that argument does not make much sense. Also I get it’s a tech demo but when it costs $10 I think it’s fair to review it honestly

  • @Xx50calnickxX
    @Xx50calnickxX 10 місяців тому

    no one likes hate mate