@@protector_of_the_realms You should change your profile pic bro. Game of Thrones died after Season 4. The new stuff is trying to save it. But too late to fix that trash. LOL
They could announce three new trilogies and nine new shows, all starting rainbow alphabet people with pink lightsabers, and I couldn't care less. I only look forward to their miserable failure. That's one thing that still gets a chuckle out of me. A dark chuckle, at that.
As a five year old my family took me to see star wars at the cinema in 1977, we all loved it. I took the family to see The Last Jedi in 2017, leaving the cinema I had to explain to the girls that Disney had defied expectation and ended their Trilogy early, and that starwars was finished. Gone.
That's a sad story. You were able to share something beautiful with your family as a kid but weren't able to give that same experience to your girls. You did the right thing though, taking them to see The Rise of Skywalker would have been child abuse.
My dad took my brother and me to see Empire in the theater when we were 3 and 5. Then when he was stuck in the hospital a few years ago, I got a little tablet with a built-in projector and good bluetooth speaker, and played a pirated copy of the 9th movie. I warned him that it was bad, and it made no sense, but at least it was better than laying in a hospital bed doing nothing. Slightly? Or maybe elder abuse. He might have thought he was senile when really it was the movie's fault for being incomprehensible.
Because of Disney, Star Wars has become one big sorry excuse for a movie. At the age of 9, I remember seeing Star Wars for the first time in June 1977. And it wasn’t just the movie experience that was profoundly unusual. My dad, my older half sister and I stood in line at the Cooper Theater on Colorado Boulevard in Denver and waited in line 2 hours to get tickets to see the movie. This line of people ran for blocks and we were near the front of the line. When we finally did get into the theater, there was a kid who wanted to stay for the next showing, but the theater usher told him he had to leave. There was nothing to compare Star Wars to when it came out, and that’s what Disney and Kathleen Kennedy don’t understand. Their movies are garbage. Garbage story and garbage characters do not make a good movie.
@@collegeman1988 I think they don't really have a choice, because they're actually paid to get propaganda into the movies. Everything has been much more fake and for much longer than most people realize, even after so much should have been made clear regarding the panda mic.
Man I bet Mace Windu's force ghost is *rolling* in his force grave lol. I mean he *only* got tossed out a window after being electrocuted and his hand chopped off. Just gotta walk it off
They are hiring scam artists to direct and write the shows, while Stranger Things have a team of passionate creators. Everything except Mando season 1 has been bad to terrible. Kenobi and Boba Fett were so excruciatingly bad that my brothers, who love star wars, didn't want to keep watching it. They aren't creating shows for Star Wars fans anymore, they are making it for the mass of Disney fans, meaning it's the most blandest shit ever.
True, I'm reading a book at the minute written by a Hollywood executive and he writes in it that studios today want to appeal to the lowest common denominator. This is partly due to bigger budgets but also because it is considered safer, content that requires the audience to have a brain is thought of as risky, which is why you get dog shit like Kenobi, which is really just an insult to the fanbase's intelligence.
You got to wonder at the people who likes Disney star wars can they not follow the storylines of the first movies and realised the new movies they don't make sence or are they new to the movies and never watch the first 6 movies or do they just like pew pew and lasers swords its baffling
Back in 1987, I can remember being in our kitchen and hearing the Star Trek The Motion Picture music on the telly in the living room. I glanced in, and saw the first UK ad for The Next Generation. I wandered into the sitting room like someone under a spell, sat down on the sofa, and just watched the whole thing. Afterwards my wife said that she knew there was no point in trying to talk to me or get me to go back into the kitchen and finish whatever it was I was doing. When the show finally aired I recorded every single episode on VHS and rewatched them a hundred times, and my wife pretty much just sighed and left me to it. These days, I don't watch Star Trek. I don't watch Star Wars. I don't watch Doctor Who. I've recently discovered Stranger Things (after getting free Netflix with my TV package) and I'm hooked. But the entire first three seasons of Stranger Things that I've so far watched don't amount to a single season of original Trek, and as much as I like it, I don't love it; it doesn't mesmerise me the way a simple theme tune could more than thirty years ago. We have a long way to go to make back all the ground that we have lost.
11:41 It's worse when you remember because Reva was a child at the time, her body was much smaller, meaning the wound would be larger, thus more damaging and thus all but impossible to survive.
The prequels, from all the hate they do get and somewhat deserve, did add hugely to the star wars fanbase. To name a couple: new lightsaber types (colour or blades, both were game changing), lightsaber duels taken to the next level, the soundtrack (especially duel of the fates), the new insight into lots of star wars lore that still influences the fan base, new characters that were amazing like Darth Maul or Mace Windu, and just overall how much material it gave fans to work with, and it produced many spinoff series such as the clone wars, which in turn produced even more beloved characters such as Ashoka or various droids. Say what you like about the acting, characters and story, the prequels still impacted the Star Wars fanbase hugely, in a positive way, adding so much to the lore and fuelling the Star Wars fanbase very well.
TCW was terrible. Ahsoka was the reason I stopped watching it after 3 episodes. What miserable twat she was. 2D Clone Wars Micro Series stays canon in my head with the prequels since they were made around the same time. Also the 3D animation looks so fucky.
In defense of the Japanese Soldier - he didnt know that Japan had surrendered. And when he was told about it - he took it as a misinformation attempt by his enemies. Which, tbh, was a reasonable conclusion after the shit he had gone through.
In one of those cases, they had to track down the Japanese soldier's commander whom had retired long after the war to talk him into laying down his arms. Intense.
@@immortalfrieza "I can't do it Ben. I can't kill my own father." Luke Skywalker was tested against the dark side by two full-blown Sith, including one who was the Dark Lord of the Sith, who had concocted an elaborate plot for the purpose of turning him, and remained unbroken. Later he attempted to murder his own nephew in cold blood because he 'might' become a baddie one day? I beg to differ with your assessment of Luke's character.
It didn’t have to be this way. I love starwars grew up with it by as a fan I would rather see the franchise die with dignity than continue to have Disney and the fake fans continue to degrade it.
@@DespotofAntrim If you love a movie, I don’t really get how you can call it bad? Idk I might just not be able to understand where you’re coming from but filmmaking is an art form. There isn’t anything objective to it. It’s up to each individual if it resonates with them or not. You can’t measure the best amount of lighting that goes into the visuals to make it perfect or how long the exact appropriate amount of time before each frame or scene is before you should cut or what camera movement is best suited to what’s being depicted ect. There’s no golden rule that makes a film good and divides it from the bad. So many elements make up a film and everyone will value each to different degrees and will tell you something different about what they like or don’t like if you get them to think and break it down and with the story too, some people will like what’s being portrayed, some won’t. At least for me I could never love a film that I genuinely consider bad. I first saw TPM as a kid and loved it. It’s definitely the Star Wars film I’m most nostalgic for. When I grew to internet exploring age I was quite shocked by the vitriol directed towards it and the rest of the Prequels and to fit in, because I was an idiotic kid back then, I conceded and went with it despite it not being what I thought. And I actually let it dictate my opinions I am ashamed to say. I considered it a bad film for literally 10 years from 2007 to 2017 without even watching it again because I actually only ever had it on VHS as a kid and never bought it on dvd. But then for TLJ I was really hyped for the new release and binged the entirety of canon that was out at that point. TPM was nowhere near as bad as I had forced myself to falsely remember. And it was at this point when I started to realise that at the time TFA was actually my least favourite Star Wars film which at the time I was saying was my 3rd favourite both to recency bias and conforming with the majority of the fan base. Now I consider TPM a solid film like a 6/10. Most of the films I’ve seen in my life are worse than it. To this day the introduction on the Trade federation ship, the pod race and the duel of the fates are still some of my favourite Star Wars moments. And Ik I said there’s nothing objective really when it comes to film, but the closest we can really get to repeatable, analysed empirical measurement regarding it’s quality are review scores (which I think we all know now aren’t to be trusted obviously and taken with a grain of salt ahaha) and in the case of TPM the critic scores are mixed and the fan scores hover around the 5.5/10 mark too. That’s better than the average and above what most films ever made get which is really impressive considering all the unnecessary hate directed towards it which means even if we were trying to talk objectively as best we can, it’s actually not a bad film and actually above average. But that’s only if we subscribe to the objectivity belief which I do not. I think it’s completely up to the person concerning what they like and don’t and how much it resonates with them determines if it’s a good film or bad film in their eyes imo
@@protector_of_the_realms "in the case of TPM the critic scores are mixed and the fan scores hover around the 5.5/10 mark too. That’s better than the average and above what most films ever made get which is really impressive considering all the unnecessary hate directed towards it which means even if we were trying to talk objectively as best we can, it’s actually not a bad film and actually above average. But that’s only if we subscribe to the objectivity belief which I do not. I think it’s completely up to the person concerning what they like and don’t and how much it resonates with them determines if it’s a good film or bad film in their eyes imo" 5.5 out of ten is an f. therefore bad. not horrendous, as the 1-4's are. just not good. therefore bad. it has many redeeming qualities and is loved by many people, but has many bad aspects as well, which is why it is not higher than 5.5
Great analysis, I am glad that the whole Mauler and Synthetic Man fiasco led to someone mentioning you. It's actually amazing how Disney destroyed Star Wars. They could have just adapted the Thrawn series for the new sequels and let some more well established EU writers make their related projects, and they would have been golden. Instead, their first move was giving fans a big middle finger.
The Thrawn novels didn't have the kind of messaging they wanted in their movies. Tossing out the Star Wars EU was arrogant to an insane degree. A huge canon of amazing stories pre-screened and pre-selected by millions of readers just thrown in the trash.
@@DespotofAntrim Not to be that guy, but I kind of predicted it would be bad after they trashed the EU. Though, I certainly never foresaw that it would be anywhere near this bad.
As a representing person of younger audience, I am 20 year's old, I will give my honest view on starwars franchise. I was born just after the prequel trilogy released and was too young to enjoy it, not to even mention the original trilogy. The only time when I actually enjoyed starwars content was jedi fallen order, a video game. Honestly the only fresh and interesting ideas I've seen in this universe that was created during my lifetime. My main issue with starwars, which is something I haven't heard a lot of people talking about, is that the worldbuilding is bland, boring and reheated like microwaved food. It's a vast galaxy which should be full of interesting places and lifeforms but all we get are death stars and desolate planets. I am so sick of seeing painfully boring and disgusting Tatooine which is apparently the most important planet in the universe, even though it's just one huge desert. I get it that this is where Luke's story begins and at first it is an interesting idea to see how societies might have developed on a desert planet. Although it is not even an original idea created by Lucas, since it was first done by Herbert's Dune. But for the love of Palpatine star wars is constantly going back to this dead pathetic planet that even the poster boy Luke hated. First in the original trilogy - return of the jedi, then in prequels - phantom menace, in the new trilogy twice, in boba fett, solo, rogue one, kenobi, and even in mandalorian. In the world only limited by human's creativity, the best that people who make starwars can come up is an another film/show on the desert. This is insufferable how overdone Tatooine is in the universe with such vast lore. I like how jedi fallen order delivers in the worldbuilding part. We get to see some old places with new twists to them: Kashyyyk, the swampy jungle planet with gigantic climbable tree. Learn and explore interesting things that have never been pictured before: Dathomir and the nightsister's witchcraft. And discover completely new or unknown places: Zeffo - a cold mountainous planet, Bogano: a flat cliff planet which is absolutely beautiful, Nur: water planet with underwater bases, and even go to Ilum where we get to gather a kyber crystal and make our own lightaber, how cool is that. That brings me to another part that for me is missing in star wars, which is a choreographic lightsaber combat. Most people care about the blasters and the troopers, don't care about the spaceships, for many starwars is mostly conflict between jedi and sith. For some reason disney is terrified to show us good exciting lightsaber combat, and I will not even consider the fights form the new trilogy. Lightsabers are plasma beams with no weight to them, except the handles, which should make them into agile and very deadly weapons that could easily go through flesh sever limbs. Meanwhile in the new trylogy they are swang as if they weighted as much as scottish claymores (5'9'' of pure steel), while causing as much damage as wet noodles. If I had to choose a cinematic starwars I enjoyed the most I'd go for prequels, not because they are amazing films, but because they perfectly deliver on that space knight/wizard fantasy most people crave. I would love to see more stories from old republic or the extended universe, unfortunately murdered by disney. In the modern world we young people expect something that makes us excited and unique. Starwars' most unique aspects are lightabers and the force. The constant struggle between following lawful jedi on the light side of the force by discipline and stoicism, or giving in to the chaotic sith on the dark side of the force but gaining a full expressive and emotional freedom to fulfilling all the desires is a perfect plot hook that could made many fantastic stories that just beg to be made into films. And morally considering if following a strict jedi code, which often is not about doing what's good, but what's 'right' or expected, is better than embracing sith one's self desires and having a freedom of choice of one's actions is much more relatable for a young viewer than any of woke crap that disney spat on us. @DespotofAntrim It is a lengthy comment but I put my mind and heart into it so I would appreciate if you red it fully and maybe considered spreading it further. Edit: Also I hate Tatooine because I don't like sand. It's coarse, and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment. I agree that the potential of Star Wars was traded in for the cheap and diminishing nostalgia hits of the DST, and the junk grade TV shows. Tatooine has become a microcosm of the franchise, a boring, stale place where nothing of note happens. Disney would never consider anything like what you have described because they like every element of their investments to be IP with track records of proven success, minus of course the woke trash no one asked for. Many Star Wars fans have praised Andor but I think it was rubbish, I will do a video on why I think that is at some point. Thanks for watching the video and sharing your thoughts with me.
in a sense i feel bad for you. primarily because nobody young can experience the thrill of the first movie, coming out in 1977, when it was state of the art FX, during an era that movies were dull or sad, & the times overall sucked. there was no VCR, no cell phones or piracy. once the movie was over you didnt see it again for a decade until VHS got big.
I forgive you for dissing the Lucas films, even though I love them dearly. The passionate way in which you praised the lightsaber combat and the stark differences between Jedi and Sith made me feel a small bit of that old spark I used to feel when I thought about Star Wars in general. God bless you, young sir. o7
@the joshman I loved Star Wars ever since the 90's because it sounded just like those old sci fis with fantastic early effects that I loved so much, only on a bigger scale. I loved the heart and soul that was put into those sci fi works in the 60's, 70's and 80's, the style of cinematography used, shot composition, camera angles, style of writing, and the special effects which pushed the technology of the time to its limit, the ingenious use of early CGI, practical effects, models, animatronics, puppets - fantastic stuff. Star Wars sounded right up my alley. Then I saw the movies on TV for the very first time in the early 2000's around Easter, and I was ENCHANTED. I have been the biggest fan of it for the past 16 odd years... until The Last Jedi. The magic just withered. I placed my love for it in a metaphorical box, set it aside on a shelf in the depths of my mind, and didn't look back. One day, I shall love it again when I feel that it's safe from soulless, evil monsters.
The bit about The Mandalorian being able to keep its head high and say "I did good" aged poorly after S3 where KK finally got her influence over the show after Filoni went turncoat on Favreau.
You absolutely nailed the bit about stuckman and other critics. I used to watch him quite a bit until Disney star wars. He and many others were so afraid to actually critique so many things. I just couldn't anymore. Even red-letter media seems to be afraid to overly critique them, not in the mauler does. Plus they seem to avoid touching any of the political messaging or agendas dropped in.
Very well thought out, makes sense. Thank you for that. I adore the original trilogy. Prequels were iffy. I liked Rogue One. But with the sequel trilogy, I was so apathetic about SW that I didn't even bother watching Mandalorian or anything after. That's how broken SW is.
Rogue One was decent. If the people who made that had been helming Lucasfilm things would have turned out much better. Mando is good but a bit overrated.
I agree there, while I enjoyed Mando it is over hyped and it's not the greatest but it's viewed as such because of what we got from Disney. I agree the OT was fantastic, the Prequels were good (they had issues, mainly in tbink they were over stuffed with ideas - George needed to trim the fat- also I theorize it's because it's a different form of story The Hero's Fall). But the ST - when I saw FA I was disappointed...I knew what we were in for. Hell I predicated the Throne Room scene in E9....
@@DespotofAntrim bro if you say that Star Wars being anti racist is attacking the fans then you got issues man. Also Star Wars was always woke, the original trilogy is literally socialist propaganda.
I'm glad you brought up Stuckman. He's a tale as old as time. A genuine fan who builds himself a plat form but then gets big enough to gain access. Once that happens he has 2 choices. Remain completely honest or Sell out little bits here and there so that he retains access. He's still in the little bit phase. Hopefully he never goes full access media but I wouldn't put it past him. He's all about the green baby !
the prequel and original trilogies were both great equally, but for different or similar reasons. they followed the lore or even estlabished it. anything disney made has actually broken the lore, which was established mainly in the prequel trilogy not the original, which is a record for sure... but not one to be proud of. thats why i cherish lucas and his trilogies and legends, but moved onto babylon 5 and wh40k.
Stranger Things even managed to introduce to young generation a hyper masculine and aggressive song from the 80's Metallica's Master of Puppets. Many older gens got drag into the show because of that. It was awesome.
15:09 No joke if they ever even TRY that with Back to the Future, I guarantee you even Disney won't have enough money to recover from the backlash. Back to the Future is arguably the most beloved Sci-Fi series in history and even to this day people look at them fondly. To warp them into WOKE garbage will piss off so many people, they'd need a time machine to save their asses.
@@DespotofAntrim Yup, I've rewatched the movies multiple times, even met Micheal J Fox and Christopher Lloyd atleast once. They are in my opinion genuinely fun, flawless films.
@@DespotofAntrim I suspect the Anne Frank story was woke propaganda. Not that it didn't happen, but it was selected and pushed by the elite media and public schools ever after. I remember it was in my third grade English textbook (mid 80's), along with more UN favorites such as Pele and Helen Keller. And then all the way through high school, English books contained Huxley and a load of Fabian Society authors, who were the hired gun propagandists of their time.
@Despot of Antrim Back to the Future is one of a very few time travel stories that I tolerate, let alone like. Woke remakes would be a predictable disaster, and would only draw the anger, and dare I say, hatred, of yet another hurt fandom.
The good things is that Robert Zemeckis is a man of principles. I've read that he has gotten several offers but has refused them all. He has refused to sell the rights to the IP and has himself no intention of making any more movies. He is very pleased with the 3 movies and sees that story as complete. He knows what type of shit remakes Hollywood puts out these days and refuses to let them tarnish his legacy.
When you brought up the lightsaber fights, I'm surprised you didn't mention any of the Old Republic cinematics (there was one released relatively recently too.) Those things get rewatched (at least by me) constantly, because they are some of the highest quality lightsaber fights we have.
I wish I could go back and watch Luke walk through that hallway again for the first time. Ever since Disney bought Star Wars that's been the only moment I've been genuinely ecstatic and screaming with joy. Now I'm just sad..... I had so much hope that they could keep up the quality. I really don't have any hope left now.
Yes, the feeling of crushed hopes is sickeningly familiar to a generation of movie fans. I remember being excited when Disney aquired Star Wars. Even 10 years prior they might have got a couple of good movies out before the Great Awokening descended on Hollywood like a poisonous fog, Star Wars never stood a chance in current era.
Why are you sad? Nobody can ever take away the original films. Be happy you can still enjoy them and don't focus on movies which aren't even made by the original creator. It's like getting angry over a fan fiction story you came across on the internet made by 15 year old Jane Doe in Wisconsin or wherever. Disney holding a paper proclaiming they hold the rights to the franchise does not neglect fhe fact that the George Lucas wasn't involved at all in the creative process therfore these films can NEVER be cannon. Hopefully one day George Lucas will tell us a short summary on how the story is really supposed to end but I wouldn't hold my breath on that ever happening due to NDAs he's no doubt signed as part of the sale to Disney
@Casimir III I'll give the Lucas originals and prequels a rewatch this year. Maybe they can rekindle a little bit of that passion I used to have for it.
An old saying comes to mind “A camel is a horse by committee”. A successful franchise be it a movie “Lord Of The Rings” or TV “Game Of Thrones” is made great because they were created by one person who’s able to carry the story arc from start to finish. Too many painters adding their brush strokes to the painting eventually just makes brown 💩
Once you realize Star Wars (as well as many other franchises) is used as a medium to communicate W.O.K.E messages and not to honor it, not even to make money, it all makes sense.
Disney: Soon Star Wars will be strong again, united as one clan under one banner. Mine. Kreia: Ah yes, the new Trilogy - after the last one was ended by fans and audiences. Such a defeat was merciful, an echo of the end, when your movies were in flames, crushed in the grip of TROS. But I do not need to remind you of such things. Disney: I was at The Rise of Skywalker! And I remember how many EU stories died to stop us there! And no matter how many dead Force Awaken setups orbit the surface of people's minds, the Sequels still live. Star Wars still lives. See Boba there - he was Mandalore in the EU. Obi-Wan was just hiding out in the desert for 19 years. I brought them here, gave them a purpose. This galaxy will be ours again. I promise you. That is the future. Kreia: Indeed? The future is always in motion, it is a difficult thing to see. Perhaps there will be no new age, Disney, no great Trilogy to unite fans. Perhaps your people fought their last battle when you bought Star Wars, and you have been dying ever since, a quiet death that will last years. And perhaps all that remains will be what I see before me: a property, wounded by Greed, encased as a Disney+ exclusive, haunted by the thought of being the last Star Wars content. -Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords; (probably)
@Despot of Antrim A detestable end for a once noble and beloved fandom. Like a mind-controlled King Theoden drowning in the latrine, instead of a sane King Theoden, leading his people at the Battle of Pelennor Fields and dying with full glory in combat.
One metric I think is most important is the franchise popularity with children. As much as many fans hate to admit it the target demographic of Lucas StarWars was children and young adults. Lucas even points this out directly in multiple interviews and the emphasis on toys and video games backs this up. I often ask kids if they like StarWars and aside from the Mandalorian and baby Yoda the silence is deafening. Not once have I heard kids say Rey is their favorite character or ask their parents to watch TROS. On the other hand Stranger Things is popular with kids who in my opinion are too young to be watching it. That can give a franchise legs like no other tactic. It’s why 40-50 year olds still love trilogy of films intended for children and the prequel trilogy is still wildly popular with people in their 20s. Even you, who I can guess is not a huge prequel fan, actually praised the trilogy more than the Original Trilogy. The Sequel trilogy and Disney Star Wars in General just doesn’t have that power with the kids of today.
As was said on Midnight's Edge.... All the cool kids are playing with Marvel superheroes, not Star Wars Sequel. Side note: Disney used phase 4 to do in MCU.
No, the movie was originally targeted to *no one:* George didn't know what the heII he was doing story wise, his colleagues criticized him *before* the editing saving the first movie. *After the first movie's success,* George capitalized on licensing and then *yes,* toys were targeted for children and the franchise started to incorporate more kid friendly things. But it wasn't anything like "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" original animated series that was only created to promote toys. Some Star Wars fans overreact too much in that aspect.
@@OtherDASWhen I think Disney Star Wars and kids, I remember Mark Hamill scolding Trump's grandchildren on social media for dressing up as the characters for Halloween. I vividly remember that because it was such a petty thing to do to children and at the time Hamill was the biggest star representing the Disney trilogy. All eyes were on him. I also remember Ethan Van Sciver documenting Star Wars toys not selling and pilling up on the few Toys "R" Us stores still working while the brand was going bankrupt. A poetic scene.
After i found this channel I often binge watched many episodes in a row. I find it ASTOUNDING how high quality the videos are even back before 1000 subs. I legitimately thought the posts by Despot celebrating 20 subscribers and then 1000 subs was a jhoke. I couldn't believe the immense effort put in before the channel even made it to two dozen subs. I mean Jesus Christ dude...i have like 21 subs and i only have 5 videos, rough quality android filmed videos of myself playing guitar to backing tracks i found online. I cant imagine putting in the work to make such professional looking videos so early on. Despot..you are one of the rare UA-camrs that genuinely deserve the success. Heh the "star wars 9: weekend at palpys" jhoke would be enough to raise to that height alone 😂
Thanks man. I really appreciate the feedback. I'd be lying if I said it doesn't feel great to get that kind of recognition. I've a new, more experimental video out next Sunday. Hope you enjoy it.
I have not found a UA-cam channel that I have enjoyed watching more since the early days of geeks and gamers you are amazing sir you are absolutely amazing
This was a very good video. Personally not watched stranger things but comparing Star Wars to other intellectual properties I know off one relatively new and one as old if not older you can see the same contrast. Mobile Suit Gundam is literally Japanese Star Wars, with massive mobile suits built all over Japan. It has a huge legacy audience, massive popularity and even global appeal (like Star Wars did). However why Gundam still thrives and Star Wars plummets into ever increasing toxicity and disgrace is because Gundam holds up its legacy with admiration and respect for its iconic characters. Same goes for many other properties outside of the Hollywood sphere of influence. As a franchise I can actually place next to Star Wars in terms of its drop off and dwindling fan base is Halo. Once the biggest gaming Juggernaut - now a failing brand with a terrible image, more a mockery of itself. It all stemmed from its own Last Jedi moment (Halo 5) and its own sequel trilogy (reclaimer saga) that attempted to sell out the fans for the broader audience. Even when they had hit a limited success (Halo Wars 2 return of a classic art style similar to Mandalorian and its Baby Yoda and Luke's Return) it quickly pittered out with terrible follow ups with the disastrous launch of Halo Infinite and the... Halo TV series (the same as Obi Wan and Book of Boba Fett). And absurd as it is they both (Halo and Star Wars) also had a disastrous run of fails over a period of ten years if not a few more. I genuinely believe that a franchise that ends up with a Last Jedi moment might truly be fated to die. How dose one recover from such a fall. And if they do hit a Last Jedi moment, catch gold only to drop it again... well its all over.
They really shit the bed so hard with the sequel trilogy. I could write paragraphs just reiterating everything you said, and then some, but the main reason why; what a great main cast they had. I really was excited about Rey, and seeing that world from her perspective. I believed her as that character. She fits. They blew it. Fin…how do you ruin such a potentially fantastic story line? And the dynamic between he and Rey. The sexual tension. And Poe…perfect role for Oscar and basically the new Han Solo without being a carbon copy. They could have set those 3 up for an AMAZING trilogy. I actually liked Adam Driver as Kylo. He was really the only thing to me that ended up being worth a damn in that whole trilogy, even though he was written horribly, as well. And these fucks had ALL 3 of the original actors STILL ALIVE, and didn’t put them all in one scene together. How…fucking…dare you. And god forbid you have a world with endless amounts of extended universe to find a new villain…you bring back fucking Palpatine. They destroyed the greatest IP in cinema history in my opinion. I never thought I’d long to watch the prequels again and again. So sad that wrong can never be righted. Carrie Fisher having passed and then murdering Han(though I understand he only signed on for the one movie anyhow). I didn’t expect to type this much, haha. Something I’ve loved my entire life man, and they just spit on it as if it didn’t set the bar for how movies are made for the next 40-50 years. Brutal.
Absolutely fantastic video. Loved the contrasts between Stranger Things and DISNEY Star Wars, nailed it. This video came out before the horrific Mando season 3. I would love to hear your take on that. One of the only good things to happen as a result of DISNEY Star Wars, is it has increased my appreciation and love of the prequel trilogy. Just absolutely mind boggling how poor of a job Disney has done with something so important to so many people.
@Despot of Antrim It can only get a new lease on life after wokeness dies, to thunderous applause. And only as a CGI animated series. That's the only way we'll ever see the trio of Luke, Leia and Han back for more adventures - they won't even be able to use the same actors for the voices. Carrie Fisher is gone, God rest her. Harrison Ford probably doesn't have much longer left (he's also sick and tired of Han Solo), and Mark Hamill is getting on in years and won't tolerate wokeness being annihilated. Old Wars is dead. The best that we can hope is something new done right, that honors the material, characters, themes and fans. But done with new actors. That's the only chance it has left.
@@DespotofAntrim It's a shame! In the trailers there was a possibility of a strong character. Major more interesting than Rey (I know instantly that Rey's missing parents would like her to the Skywalker's)
Makes me so sad that you're right. But you are. You didn't say a single thing I disagreed with.... Disney truly followed through with their terrible line of "let the past die, kill it if you have to". They killed Lucas' vision and probably killed any chance of the next generation picking SW up and enjoying it.
@@Swiftey-wu2qq A single dirty stain on a lovely painting is the most noticable and the most distracting from the actual art.. that is all they need. One stain.
bro. I just discovered your channel w your other starwars video, and you really know how to write, narrate and dissect! you are spot on w your disney sw analysis. the incredible thing is, before disney bought sw, there were 100s of stories, comics, books, video games, fan fiction and more. starwars was still thriving and successful. well worth the investment by disney... except that they totally blew it. I was as diehard a sw fan as one could get. 20min into the last jedi and I was like wtf is this?? not only could I not recognize it as a starwars film, I loathed and hated the movie more than anything I had ever see before I was even an hour in. I was furious when I left the theater and after I had meditated on what was produced, I completely turned my back on this franchise. I mean, I don't even care about the originals anymore! the last jedi was such poison, that I lost my taste for everything starwars. having spent countless dollars on the franchise prior to disney's acquisition, especially on video games, my money would never go to this franchise again after that abomination of a film. disney ddnt just lose money from me going forward, they actively killed a super fan. starwars has been relegated to a series of films I watched as a child and nothing more. anyways, can't wait to check out more of your content! subbed.
Disney Star Wars makes me more unimpressed by the old movies retroactively. That’s an impressive feat. Where a bad handling of an IP damages it that much that it retroactively makes me view the original as less good l than I thought it was before. The IP isn’t even worth trying to save cause it’s so ran through the ground.
@@DespotofAntrim I feel like maybe I know too much about Star Wars by proxy now that it really dulled the wonder I saw in it as a kid. Up til before the Disney stuff I legitimately thought George Lucas planned the films out from the beginning only to find out that the modern movies’ “plan it as you go” mindset was at play all along with the OT. And now that I know that it makes rewatching the old movies feel like constantly having it in mind that it had no real plan makes it noticeable. Like it’s amazing it still flows well enough but at parts like Leia and Luke being twins separated at birth… I just think “random?” Like it was just a really weird choice at ending the love triangle. That and Han was apparently supposed to have died with the carbonite scene and I like that he got brought back (I prefer happy endings) but it does feel like walking back a bold choice for a safe one (though again, it wasn’t a bad choice just definitely one that does seem like a JJ Abrams Rise of Skywalker undo-button on the previous film part).
NO, IT WASN'T! Star Wars always had a relatively simple, but strong story. That's what it was, uncomplicated but pure. Disney couldn't even get that much right, because they are soulless imbeciles.
Well, you released this video right before Andor came out, which has been pretty much universally acclaimed as probably the best ever Disney release in the Star Wars Universe. The problem is that all the other Disney productions were just schlocky bits rushed out by a mindless corporate need to fill movie and TV time slots, and so were poorly written and poory cast bits of junk designed as "fan service", not great stories or movies. Andor was created by a veteran of the film industry, Jack Gilroy, who really knows how to put a great story together.
Not just Disney releases, Andor is one of the best SW media ever released, its so good. So many memorable scenes, speeches, the music is great, and cinematography can get really beautiful.
That Back to the Future clip really disturbed me I'm glad that Robert Zemeckis said that this won't happen as long as him and the writer, Bob Gale lives So, for now, this franchise is protected
No one is going to force you to watch the new ones is they do make them. Just say "nope, these are the real films, I am not interested in watching and new movie eh the same name" and don't watch it. It's not hard. The fact that it exists shouldnt make you lose sleep. Fuck em.
The only good thing about star wars latley aside from Mandolorian has been the animated stuff and saddly cartoons are seen as kids stuff (yet ironically they've been more adult and tackle themes and have great characters compared to the live action star wars)
love how people pay such little attention to age ratings that peeps will go on record and openly talk about their kids watching what is technically illegal for them to watch.Not that im complaining,my dad let me watch all the classic horror films from about the age of 4
Nice. You *could* break down the reasoning about how becoming aware of and antiquated with violence helps one mature in a fallen world racked with violence. Hypothetically.
@@Neon-Covenanter lol I do agree but my original comment was already turning into a wall of text
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The Phantom Menace was better than the all the Star Wars sequels. At least episode I made sense in the SW universe, unlike episode VII-IX. Episode VII could've been better though.
Star Wars to me committed the one unpardonable sin - it diluted its own brand. Remember when the old movies felt like an event? When they were special precisely because they were rare and weren't coming out every damn year? They robbed their own property of its mystique and that's a huge part of audience investment. And once that's gone, good luck getting it back.
When my sister and I were kids we’d always laugh our azz’s off when the tuskans shot that pod racer. So hilarious. Im glad I haven’t watched ANY Disney Star Wars since episode VII and good thing I didn’t.
My relationship with star wars is strange. The Original Trilogy was before my time, and the prequels were meant for my generation. I saw the first prequel film as a very young child, and was enamored by the dazzling effects and creatures, and was especially in love with the design of the Naboo starfighter. To this day it's still my favorite ship design in the franchise, and im crushed it did not feature in the Clone Wars cartoon in any way- but im getting ahead of myself. By the time Attack of the clones released, i was more able to understand the story it told, and i was repelled by it utterly. I did not accept anikan as the hero, was unimpressed by padme, and was constantly agitated that no one could see the obviously evil chancellor palpatine for what he really was. Even my child self could tell he and Sidious were one and the same by the end of phantom menace. The cold, unnatural way the characters behaved around one another confused and unnerved me. However what kept me in was the appeal of the jedi themselves. The contrast of the spiritual, and majestic culture of the jedi set against the advanced technology of the space setting- yet one that was undeniably fantasy in design. Despite my problems with the story and characters i found the setting irresistable, and wanted to see more of it. However, My family never bothered to go see Revenge of the Sith, so evidently my mother and father were not enthused. I didn't see star wars till the first time until i was already an adult. A jaded art student. Apparently the only worse period in my life to see it would have been as a teenager, because i was completely ambivalent to it. all i saw was the hokey sets, the wodden performances, and the bastarding flat wide shots. The magic of the Jedi was all but absent, as well as the amazing and beautiful landscapes and fantastic locations. and in thier place was cold industrial sets and a world war 2 allegory wearing a gritty, analog sci fi aesthetic. The very things people love about the original films was a complete turn off for me! I was ready to wite off Star Wars as simply not being for me at that point, but was saved by Dave Filoni's Clone Wars series. Finally, I could have my magical space ninja wizards, and have them also be good characters. Not only that, the war story was engaging and carefully plotted. Characters the prequel trilogy deemed disposable were key players in the cartoon, and became as beloved as the ones from the original trilogy! It was after seeing the original 5 seasons that i finally sat down to watch empire, and the jump in quality from the original film was staggering. The cinematography was worlds better, the lighting hid the imperfections in the costuming better, the puppetry was amazing, and the story was immaculate. Though i had known for years that Darth Vader was Luke's father thanks to pop cultural osmosis, the scene in which he reveals this was no less captivating. So there i was, an adult, poised to see the brand new sequel film, my only real nostalgia being for an spin-off cartoon that, by design, would have no bearing on the larger story told in the films, save for how it would superficially elevate the prequels. And then we got a cynical, lazy, unimaginative remake of Star Wars. The grime was back, the puppets were back, even the stupid cameras were back (The miniatures were not back- they never left, despite what plinkett tells you), but it was all such an obvious sham, a ploy to be as un-like the prequels as possible and pander to fans of the original trilogy, and being as unchallenging a story as possible to appeal to the masses. i initially thought it to be a drab, but inoffensive movie with an obnoxiously over-powered protagonist, but destroying coroscant was the last straw. (yes i know they backpedaled and claimed that it wasnt supposed to be coroscant but fuck you they knew exactly what they were doing) I knew then that this new series was not for me, and wasn't going to entertain it any longer. of course, i would see the last jedi, dragged to the theater by my unfortunate sister, fooled by the disney marketing machine's female empowerment angle, and it was a far worse film than Attack of the Clones. That movie *hates* star wars, and wants the viewer to as well. I have not seen Rise of Skywalker, and do not plan to. As far as im concerned, Star Wars is already dead to me. Though I feel this way, I'm not unhappy. I'll always have "My" star wars. I've got seven whole seasons of it, plus 4 more from it's worthy sequel. I wish Dave the best of luck, and hope that he not fall victim to any of Disney's poison.
It hurts to be one of the Hardcores(Hardcore Star Wars Fan). Disney has not only killed Star Wars in it's entirely but it has also besmirched it's name. Dragging it through the mud for lowly and despicable profit. No one will remember Star Wars for what it used to be. A cinematographic masterpiece of an Original Trilogy, made by the greatest generation of filmmakers that share my passion for creativity and storytelling. A decent Prequel Trilogy that despite of it's flaws, filled in the gaps of the Chosen One's Story and completed the circle. Finally, 40 years worth of expanded content spanning 25,000 years of LORE. No, instead they will only remember the absolute FLOP that is the Sequel Trilogy and what not to do with a beloved franchise.
It would not surprise me if they did do a deep analysis of this and I can just see some exec running into a big boardroom and announcing they think they understand and conclude they need even more woke adaptions and more diversity and even more female hero's. They are that far beyond now.
Sigh this was hard to watch but so true. Im a trans girl and love the prequels and Hayden and Ewan but i dont want this woke bullshit around and i certainly dont need characters to be trans or gay or black or whatever but everyone seems to think that is a must instead of just going for quality. Really pisses me off, this was sad but very very true.
Hayden is a nice guy and his career went south after the prequels, I was glad he caught a break with this show. He deserved a lot better the piece of shit they put him in.
As someone who's gay I really agree with this statement. It feels more like we're being fetishized then actual attempts at writing a character that just so happens to be gay or trans or whatever. Instead they just shove it in your face like... Hey guys, look at our amazing representation!
Great analysis and would certainly agree. Disney bought what they assumed was a cash making machine they could dress anything up in Star Wars and sell and have been consistently proved wrong. Sound and vision is there but no story and no respect to what they had bought, just an expensive cosplay. I am a big EU fan and to have them throw out all that and replace it with such badly written drivel. They would be better off admitting there error and restarting the whole thing with the Thrawn Trilogy and Dark Empire series, going DC dark
Yes, it was amazingly arrogant of Disney to ignore the EU. Thrawn is a great character. They'll rape him eventually though. They tossed out decades of carefully thought out ideas because apparently Mary Sue Skywalker was more compelling.
The last Star Wars thing I watched was the first season of the Mandalorian. Haven't even been tempted to watch anything else. It's absurd that they would just flush 4.5 BILLION dollars down the drain for one woman's pride. It's literally a 'truth is stranger than fiction'.
12:00 I do miss those video during the sequel era where people would make long rants just tearing the movies apart. I still remember that one guy who made an hour long video ah good times
I went to see The Force Awakens in the cinema with mates back in 2015. When they did the multi planet mega-death-star blowy uppy thing I got up, walked out, and sat in the bar downstairs til it was over. All my mates gave me shit for it. Fast forward to today, I haven't seen another Star Wars film or show since, and all I hear from my mates is how absolutely shit they have all been since Disney took over. You can imagine my smug-as-fuck face whenever it gets brought up that I bounced half way through that god awful shitshow.
Good story. I remember wanting to like Force Awakens but thinking that the giant death star was one of the dumbest fucking things I had ever seen in a movie, and thus, being unable to.
Yeah, it's really hard to admit that the star wars magic is finally dead, it endured over so many generations, made countless millions of people beleive in the wonders of cinema and it all was undone by one stroke of a pen when Lucas signed it over Disney. The tragedy is not that Disney only ruined the work they have done in the name of star wars so far but that they will not be happy until even the original movies are somehow tainted because of how thoroughly they've poisoned the characters from them.
Disney forced Lucas to sell his passion and then brutally raped it until it was unrecognizable. It's a sad time we live in now that wokism has ruined a galaxy far, far away.
I had a hard time staying awake for Kenobi, and half the time my son was on his phone. Usually, I make him put his phone aside when we watch stuff together. I couldn't justify it for that show. With Boba Fett, apart from the Mando episode, we only paid attention to laugh at it. The scooter gang was hilarious.
Everyone knows that there are only 3 Star Wars -> "Star Wars", "The Empire Strike Back", "Return of the Jedi". Everything else is franchise milking garbage.
My 7 year old absolutely loves Star Wars, obviously in particular the clone wars and rebels animated series. Like so many other kids he loves Obi Wan and Vader. He didn't like Kenobi, at all. lmao I've never said anything bad about star wars in front of him and even him, 6 at the time, knew Kenobi was garbage. Also, obligatory shout out to Sweet Daddy Walsh and his nonstop based takes.
Star Wars ended when George sold it simple
True, it stood no chance with Disney.
It ended when the trash prequels came out. After watching Episode II in the movie theatres. I sold all my Star Wars stuff.
@@hihellothere100 You missed Revenge of the Sith.
@@hihellothere100 Sold all your Ewok teddy bears right haha? Star Wars died with the trash that was ROTJ. There’s only 2 films. 1977-1980
@@protector_of_the_realms You should change your profile pic bro. Game of Thrones died after Season 4. The new stuff is trying to save it. But too late to fix that trash. LOL
Disney could announce a new trilogy and most people wouldn't care. The sequels did permanent damage.
Totally agree, they will NEVER have anything close to what they had in 2015.
They could announce three new trilogies and nine new shows, all starting rainbow alphabet people with pink lightsabers, and I couldn't care less. I only look forward to their miserable failure.
That's one thing that still gets a chuckle out of me. A dark chuckle, at that.
100%
@@mirceazaharia2094 star wars fans are so dramatic 😭😭"rainbow alphabet people" just say you're a little homophobic and go
Ehem ... they already have. Twice! And nobody cared.
As a five year old my family took me to see star wars at the cinema in 1977, we all loved it. I took the family to see The Last Jedi in 2017, leaving the cinema I had to explain to the girls that Disney had defied expectation and ended their Trilogy early, and that starwars was finished. Gone.
That's a sad story. You were able to share something beautiful with your family as a kid but weren't able to give that same experience to your girls. You did the right thing though, taking them to see The Rise of Skywalker would have been child abuse.
My dad took my brother and me to see Empire in the theater when we were 3 and 5. Then when he was stuck in the hospital a few years ago, I got a little tablet with a built-in projector and good bluetooth speaker, and played a pirated copy of the 9th movie. I warned him that it was bad, and it made no sense, but at least it was better than laying in a hospital bed doing nothing. Slightly? Or maybe elder abuse. He might have thought he was senile when really it was the movie's fault for being incomprehensible.
Because of Disney, Star Wars has become one big sorry excuse for a movie. At the age of 9, I remember seeing Star Wars for the first time in June 1977. And it wasn’t just the movie experience that was profoundly unusual. My dad, my older half sister and I stood in line at the Cooper Theater on Colorado Boulevard in Denver and waited in line 2 hours to get tickets to see the movie. This line of people ran for blocks and we were near the front of the line. When we finally did get into the theater, there was a kid who wanted to stay for the next showing, but the theater usher told him he had to leave. There was nothing to compare Star Wars to when it came out, and that’s what Disney and Kathleen Kennedy don’t understand. Their movies are garbage. Garbage story and garbage characters do not make a good movie.
@@collegeman1988 I think they don't really have a choice, because they're actually paid to get propaganda into the movies. Everything has been much more fake and for much longer than most people realize, even after so much should have been made clear regarding the panda mic.
Sounds like a villian origin story to me...
Back in the old days, when Vader stabs you, you’re dead.
It's just a flesh wound.
@@starsiegeplayer"we'll call it a draw" - Obiwan to Vader as he walks away without finishing the job a *second time*
Man I bet Mace Windu's force ghost is *rolling* in his force grave lol. I mean he *only* got tossed out a window after being electrocuted and his hand chopped off.
Just gotta walk it off
Unless you're a strong WAMEN
@@starsiegeplayer*"None shall pass!"*
They are hiring scam artists to direct and write the shows, while Stranger Things have a team of passionate creators.
Everything except Mando season 1 has been bad to terrible. Kenobi and Boba Fett were so excruciatingly bad that my brothers, who love star wars, didn't want to keep watching it.
They aren't creating shows for Star Wars fans anymore, they are making it for the mass of Disney fans, meaning it's the most blandest shit ever.
True, I'm reading a book at the minute written by a Hollywood executive and he writes in it that studios today want to appeal to the lowest common denominator. This is partly due to bigger budgets but also because it is considered safer, content that requires the audience to have a brain is thought of as risky, which is why you get dog shit like Kenobi, which is really just an insult to the fanbase's intelligence.
You got to wonder at the people who likes Disney star wars can they not follow the storylines of the first movies and realised the new movies they don't make sence or are they new to the movies and never watch the first 6 movies or do they just like pew pew and lasers swords its baffling
Mando season 1 was bad too. Andor is surprisingly good though.
Exactly
@@garethdevlin5399I think it’s more of they don’t care about lore and previous arcs
Back in 1987, I can remember being in our kitchen and hearing the Star Trek The Motion Picture music on the telly in the living room. I glanced in, and saw the first UK ad for The Next Generation. I wandered into the sitting room like someone under a spell, sat down on the sofa, and just watched the whole thing. Afterwards my wife said that she knew there was no point in trying to talk to me or get me to go back into the kitchen and finish whatever it was I was doing. When the show finally aired I recorded every single episode on VHS and rewatched them a hundred times, and my wife pretty much just sighed and left me to it. These days, I don't watch Star Trek. I don't watch Star Wars. I don't watch Doctor Who. I've recently discovered Stranger Things (after getting free Netflix with my TV package) and I'm hooked. But the entire first three seasons of Stranger Things that I've so far watched don't amount to a single season of original Trek, and as much as I like it, I don't love it; it doesn't mesmerise me the way a simple theme tune could more than thirty years ago. We have a long way to go to make back all the ground that we have lost.
11:41 It's worse when you remember because Reva was a child at the time, her body was much smaller, meaning the wound would be larger, thus more damaging and thus all but impossible to survive.
It's because she's stunning and brave.
@@DespotofAntrim I hate that so many writers use that as an excuse.
@@thefanwithoutaface8105 or they are brave and stunning!!
I’ve seen women online saying they don’t like these kinds of characters, so yeah, these characters don’t work quite as well as was hoped
@SuperNinja493 well it makes women look bad, it's degrading
The prequels, from all the hate they do get and somewhat deserve, did add hugely to the star wars fanbase. To name a couple: new lightsaber types (colour or blades, both were game changing), lightsaber duels taken to the next level, the soundtrack (especially duel of the fates), the new insight into lots of star wars lore that still influences the fan base, new characters that were amazing like Darth Maul or Mace Windu, and just overall how much material it gave fans to work with, and it produced many spinoff series such as the clone wars, which in turn produced even more beloved characters such as Ashoka or various droids. Say what you like about the acting, characters and story, the prequels still impacted the Star Wars fanbase hugely, in a positive way, adding so much to the lore and fuelling the Star Wars fanbase very well.
Agreed I’ve always felt the prequels were good STORIES, the problem was that George is terrible at writing dialogue l
They don’t deserve any hate and are good films that need to be recognised
TCW was terrible. Ahsoka was the reason I stopped watching it after 3 episodes. What miserable twat she was. 2D Clone Wars Micro Series stays canon in my head with the prequels since they were made around the same time. Also the 3D animation looks so fucky.
In defense of the Japanese Soldier - he didnt know that Japan had surrendered. And when he was told about it - he took it as a misinformation attempt by his enemies. Which, tbh, was a reasonable conclusion after the shit he had gone through.
In one of those cases, they had to track down the Japanese soldier's commander whom had retired long after the war to talk him into laying down his arms. Intense.
When you’re told to fight to the last man, you fight to the last man. His honor demanded it. Crazy how that stuff rolled out though.
Oh yeah, I have nothing but respect for that guy.
The assassination of Luke was a thing that has truly broken my heart.
Same here, it’s irritated me enough to where the sequels DO NOT exist for me
So did I. It broke my heart. It's made me feel true HATRED for wokeness, in a way few things ever could. Honest to goodness hatred.
@@macgyversmacbook1861 Any Star Wars created by Disney does not exist.
There was no assassination. People who think that don't know Luke's character in the first place.
@@immortalfrieza "I can't do it Ben. I can't kill my own father."
Luke Skywalker was tested against the dark side by two full-blown Sith, including one who was the Dark Lord of the Sith, who had concocted an elaborate plot for the purpose of turning him, and remained unbroken.
Later he attempted to murder his own nephew in cold blood because he 'might' become a baddie one day?
I beg to differ with your assessment of Luke's character.
It didn’t have to be this way.
I love starwars grew up with it by as a fan I would rather see the franchise die with dignity than continue to have Disney and the fake fans continue to degrade it.
Where are these fake fans? I don’t see them representing any material from the Sequels.
@@BungieStudios you being incompetent at checking out / finding communities on the internet is on you buddy
Me as well, just as I'd personally prefer to be cleanly murdered rather than tortured to death.
If this was the trial of King Solomon to find out who was the true mother of the baby, Star Wars would be awarded to you good sir.
@@BungieStudiosyou’ll see them defending the sequels like TLJ
Star Wars is dead but its impact will never be forgotten.
True. It's commercial death has recently been confirmed, but it was creatively bankrupt long before.
The Disney Star Wars films have given me a new appreciation for the Prequels
They weren’t perfect, but I cared and was invested
Same. My record for movie most viewed in cinema was The Phantom Menace, watched it 5 times and loved every one. Bad movie though.
At least the prequels had a coherent plot. I don't know what the heck was going on in the DST.
@@DespotofAntrim If you love a movie, I don’t really get how you can call it bad? Idk I might just not be able to understand where you’re coming from but filmmaking is an art form. There isn’t anything objective to it. It’s up to each individual if it resonates with them or not. You can’t measure the best amount of lighting that goes into the visuals to make it perfect or how long the exact appropriate amount of time before each frame or scene is before you should cut or what camera movement is best suited to what’s being depicted ect. There’s no golden rule that makes a film good and divides it from the bad. So many elements make up a film and everyone will value each to different degrees and will tell you something different about what they like or don’t like if you get them to think and break it down and with the story too, some people will like what’s being portrayed, some won’t. At least for me I could never love a film that I genuinely consider bad.
I first saw TPM as a kid and loved it. It’s definitely the Star Wars film I’m most nostalgic for. When I grew to internet exploring age I was quite shocked by the vitriol directed towards it and the rest of the Prequels and to fit in, because I was an idiotic kid back then, I conceded and went with it despite it not being what I thought. And I actually let it dictate my opinions I am ashamed to say. I considered it a bad film for literally 10 years from 2007 to 2017 without even watching it again because I actually only ever had it on VHS as a kid and never bought it on dvd. But then for TLJ I was really hyped for the new release and binged the entirety of canon that was out at that point. TPM was nowhere near as bad as I had forced myself to falsely remember. And it was at this point when I started to realise that at the time TFA was actually my least favourite Star Wars film which at the time I was saying was my 3rd favourite both to recency bias and conforming with the majority of the fan base. Now I consider TPM a solid film like a 6/10. Most of the films I’ve seen in my life are worse than it. To this day the introduction on the Trade federation ship, the pod race and the duel of the fates are still some of my favourite Star Wars moments. And Ik I said there’s nothing objective really when it comes to film, but the closest we can really get to repeatable, analysed empirical measurement regarding it’s quality are review scores (which I think we all know now aren’t to be trusted obviously and taken with a grain of salt ahaha) and in the case of TPM the critic scores are mixed and the fan scores hover around the 5.5/10 mark too. That’s better than the average and above what most films ever made get which is really impressive considering all the unnecessary hate directed towards it which means even if we were trying to talk objectively as best we can, it’s actually not a bad film and actually above average. But that’s only if we subscribe to the objectivity belief which I do not. I think it’s completely up to the person concerning what they like and don’t and how much it resonates with them determines if it’s a good film or bad film in their eyes imo
@@protector_of_the_realms "in the case of TPM the critic scores are mixed and the fan scores hover around the 5.5/10 mark too. That’s better than the average and above what most films ever made get which is really impressive considering all the unnecessary hate directed towards it which means even if we were trying to talk objectively as best we can, it’s actually not a bad film and actually above average. But that’s only if we subscribe to the objectivity belief which I do not. I think it’s completely up to the person concerning what they like and don’t and how much it resonates with them determines if it’s a good film or bad film in their eyes imo"
5.5 out of ten is an f. therefore bad. not horrendous, as the 1-4's are. just not good. therefore bad. it has many redeeming qualities and is loved by many people, but has many bad aspects as well, which is why it is not higher than 5.5
@@DespotofAntrimit’s not a ‘bad movie’ at all
Great analysis, I am glad that the whole Mauler and Synthetic Man fiasco led to someone mentioning you. It's actually amazing how Disney destroyed Star Wars. They could have just adapted the Thrawn series for the new sequels and let some more well established EU writers make their related projects, and they would have been golden. Instead, their first move was giving fans a big middle finger.
The Thrawn novels didn't have the kind of messaging they wanted in their movies. Tossing out the Star Wars EU was arrogant to an insane degree. A huge canon of amazing stories pre-screened and pre-selected by millions of readers just thrown in the trash.
@@DespotofAntrim Not to be that guy, but I kind of predicted it would be bad after they trashed the EU. Though, I certainly never foresaw that it would be anywhere near this bad.
@theunseenone That was the first inkling that it could be in the wrong hands. It was as if millions of fans cried out, and were silenced.
As a representing person of younger audience, I am 20 year's old, I will give my honest view on starwars franchise. I was born just after the prequel trilogy released and was too young to enjoy it, not to even mention the original trilogy. The only time when I actually enjoyed starwars content was jedi fallen order, a video game. Honestly the only fresh and interesting ideas I've seen in this universe that was created during my lifetime. My main issue with starwars, which is something I haven't heard a lot of people talking about, is that the worldbuilding is bland, boring and reheated like microwaved food. It's a vast galaxy which should be full of interesting places and lifeforms but all we get are death stars and desolate planets. I am so sick of seeing painfully boring and disgusting Tatooine which is apparently the most important planet in the universe, even though it's just one huge desert. I get it that this is where Luke's story begins and at first it is an interesting idea to see how societies might have developed on a desert planet. Although it is not even an original idea created by Lucas, since it was first done by Herbert's Dune. But for the love of Palpatine star wars is constantly going back to this dead pathetic planet that even the poster boy Luke hated. First in the original trilogy - return of the jedi, then in prequels - phantom menace, in the new trilogy twice, in boba fett, solo, rogue one, kenobi, and even in mandalorian. In the world only limited by human's creativity, the best that people who make starwars can come up is an another film/show on the desert. This is insufferable how overdone Tatooine is in the universe with such vast lore. I like how jedi fallen order delivers in the worldbuilding part. We get to see some old places with new twists to them: Kashyyyk, the swampy jungle planet with gigantic climbable tree. Learn and explore interesting things that have never been pictured before: Dathomir and the nightsister's witchcraft. And discover completely new or unknown places: Zeffo - a cold mountainous planet, Bogano: a flat cliff planet which is absolutely beautiful, Nur: water planet with underwater bases, and even go to Ilum where we get to gather a kyber crystal and make our own lightaber, how cool is that. That brings me to another part that for me is missing in star wars, which is a choreographic lightsaber combat. Most people care about the blasters and the troopers, don't care about the spaceships, for many starwars is mostly conflict between jedi and sith. For some reason disney is terrified to show us good exciting lightsaber combat, and I will not even consider the fights form the new trilogy. Lightsabers are plasma beams with no weight to them, except the handles, which should make them into agile and very deadly weapons that could easily go through flesh sever limbs. Meanwhile in the new trylogy they are swang as if they weighted as much as scottish claymores (5'9'' of pure steel), while causing as much damage as wet noodles. If I had to choose a cinematic starwars I enjoyed the most I'd go for prequels, not because they are amazing films, but because they perfectly deliver on that space knight/wizard fantasy most people crave. I would love to see more stories from old republic or the extended universe, unfortunately murdered by disney. In the modern world we young people expect something that makes us excited and unique. Starwars' most unique aspects are lightabers and the force. The constant struggle between following lawful jedi on the light side of the force by discipline and stoicism, or giving in to the chaotic sith on the dark side of the force but gaining a full expressive and emotional freedom to fulfilling all the desires is a perfect plot hook that could made many fantastic stories that just beg to be made into films. And morally considering if following a strict jedi code, which often is not about doing what's good, but what's 'right' or expected, is better than embracing sith one's self desires and having a freedom of choice of one's actions is much more relatable for a young viewer than any of woke crap that disney spat on us. @DespotofAntrim It is a lengthy comment but I put my mind and heart into it so I would appreciate if you red it fully and maybe considered spreading it further.
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Also I hate Tatooine because I don't like sand. It's coarse, and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment. I agree that the potential of Star Wars was traded in for the cheap and diminishing nostalgia hits of the DST, and the junk grade TV shows. Tatooine has become a microcosm of the franchise, a boring, stale place where nothing of note happens. Disney would never consider anything like what you have described because they like every element of their investments to be IP with track records of proven success, minus of course the woke trash no one asked for. Many Star Wars fans have praised Andor but I think it was rubbish, I will do a video on why I think that is at some point. Thanks for watching the video and sharing your thoughts with me.
in a sense i feel bad for you. primarily because nobody young can experience the thrill of the first movie, coming out in 1977, when it was state of the art FX, during an era that movies were dull or sad, & the times overall sucked. there was no VCR, no cell phones or piracy. once the movie was over you didnt see it again for a decade until VHS got big.
I forgive you for dissing the Lucas films, even though I love them dearly. The passionate way in which you praised the lightsaber combat and the stark differences between Jedi and Sith made me feel a small bit of that old spark I used to feel when I thought about Star Wars in general.
God bless you, young sir. o7
@the joshman I loved Star Wars ever since the 90's because it sounded just like those old sci fis with fantastic early effects that I loved so much, only on a bigger scale.
I loved the heart and soul that was put into those sci fi works in the 60's, 70's and 80's, the style of cinematography used, shot composition, camera angles, style of writing, and the special effects which pushed the technology of the time to its limit, the ingenious use of early CGI, practical effects, models, animatronics, puppets - fantastic stuff.
Star Wars sounded right up my alley. Then I saw the movies on TV for the very first time in the early 2000's around Easter, and I was ENCHANTED. I have been the biggest fan of it for the past 16 odd years... until The Last Jedi.
The magic just withered. I placed my love for it in a metaphorical box, set it aside on a shelf in the depths of my mind, and didn't look back.
One day, I shall love it again when I feel that it's safe from soulless, evil monsters.
On the topic of Tatooine, I would like to quote Anakin from the Clone Wars movie:
,,The desert is without mercy! It takes everything from you!''
Because of the disney trilogy's existence, I would willingly watch a 2 hour Jar Jar Binks movie so long as it was written by George Lucas.
Yo ain't that the truth though
That movie would be phenomenal 🤣
Same here chief. I would love to see our _true_ dark sith emperor in action, now with a bigger role in the story
Jar Jar rules
Jar Jar low key the main character of TPM
The bit about The Mandalorian being able to keep its head high and say "I did good" aged poorly after S3 where KK finally got her influence over the show after Filoni went turncoat on Favreau.
Mandalorian was shit from the start...
@@darkbum1510agree to disagree. I liked Mando until BOBF, and then S3 was the extra nail in the coffin
@@darkbum1510
S1 is okay. S2 is mediocre and S3 is pure trash.
@@MissMedeiros I'm sorry, I don't speak WRONG
@@MissMedeiros No... no it was shit from the start...
You absolutely nailed the bit about stuckman and other critics. I used to watch him quite a bit until Disney star wars. He and many others were so afraid to actually critique so many things. I just couldn't anymore. Even red-letter media seems to be afraid to overly critique them, not in the mauler does.
Plus they seem to avoid touching any of the political messaging or agendas dropped in.
May I humbly suggest hackfraudmedia for the true plinkett review of episode 8.
So many hack “movie reviewers” and “Star Wars Fans” were exposed after 2015.
…*cough Redletter Media *cough Star Wars Theory etc.
Very well thought out, makes sense. Thank you for that. I adore the original trilogy. Prequels were iffy. I liked Rogue One. But with the sequel trilogy, I was so apathetic about SW that I didn't even bother watching Mandalorian or anything after. That's how broken SW is.
Rogue One was decent. If the people who made that had been helming Lucasfilm things would have turned out much better. Mando is good but a bit overrated.
I agree there, while I enjoyed Mando it is over hyped and it's not the greatest but it's viewed as such because of what we got from Disney.
I agree the OT was fantastic, the Prequels were good (they had issues, mainly in tbink they were over stuffed with ideas - George needed to trim the fat- also I theorize it's because it's a different form of story The Hero's Fall).
But the ST - when I saw FA I was disappointed...I knew what we were in for. Hell I predicated the Throne Room scene in E9....
@@DespotofAntrim bro if you say that Star Wars being anti racist is attacking the fans then you got issues man.
Also Star Wars was always woke, the original trilogy is literally socialist propaganda.
My main problems with the Prequels are Jar-Jar and the dead lifeless romantic scenes due to a bad choice of lead actor.
@@DespotofAntrim Yes. Considering how Tony Gilroy's Andor turned out, it absolutely would have been leagues better.
Really sad to see something I loved, is slowly dying.
It's already dead, Andor proved it.
how does it feel living long enough to see all your favourite franchises go up in flames?
@@NGRevenant Meh, can't say much expect "Oh well."
I'm glad you brought up Stuckman.
He's a tale as old as time.
A genuine fan who builds himself a plat form but then gets big enough to gain access. Once that happens he has 2 choices. Remain completely honest or Sell out little bits here and there so that he retains access. He's still in the little bit phase. Hopefully he never goes full access media but I wouldn't put it past him.
He's all about the green baby !
Spoiler alert!
He did.
The Last Jedi turned me from a Normie into the jaded character I am today.
Good times.
It had that effect on many.
The truth shall set you free.
Damn, when you put it that way, I can honestly say that my life is worse, because The Last Jedi Exists.
The Last Jedi is the least nornie Star Wars film since 2005.
@@DespotofAntrim Yeah, great movies like TLJ have an effect on people. And no, that's not sarcasm.
the prequel and original trilogies were both great equally, but for different or similar reasons. they followed the lore or even estlabished it. anything disney made has actually broken the lore, which was established mainly in the prequel trilogy not the original, which is a record for sure... but not one to be proud of.
thats why i cherish lucas and his trilogies and legends, but moved onto babylon 5 and wh40k.
Preach
Stranger Things even managed to introduce to young generation a hyper masculine and aggressive song from the 80's Metallica's Master of Puppets. Many older gens got drag into the show because of that. It was awesome.
15:09 No joke if they ever even TRY that with Back to the Future, I guarantee you even Disney won't have enough money to recover from the backlash. Back to the Future is arguably the most beloved Sci-Fi series in history and even to this day people look at them fondly.
To warp them into WOKE garbage will piss off so many people, they'd need a time machine to save their asses.
It's my favourite movie trilogy. It is the Anne Frank of movies, hopefully it can hold out until the liberation.
@@DespotofAntrim Yup, I've rewatched the movies multiple times, even met Micheal J Fox and Christopher Lloyd atleast once. They are in my opinion genuinely fun, flawless films.
@@DespotofAntrim I suspect the Anne Frank story was woke propaganda. Not that it didn't happen, but it was selected and pushed by the elite media and public schools ever after. I remember it was in my third grade English textbook (mid 80's), along with more UN favorites such as Pele and Helen Keller. And then all the way through high school, English books contained Huxley and a load of Fabian Society authors, who were the hired gun propagandists of their time.
@Despot of Antrim Back to the Future is one of a very few time travel stories that I tolerate, let alone like. Woke remakes would be a predictable disaster, and would only draw the anger, and dare I say, hatred, of yet another hurt fandom.
The good things is that Robert Zemeckis is a man of principles. I've read that he has gotten several offers but has refused them all. He has refused to sell the rights to the IP and has himself no intention of making any more movies. He is very pleased with the 3 movies and sees that story as complete. He knows what type of shit remakes Hollywood puts out these days and refuses to let them tarnish his legacy.
When you brought up the lightsaber fights, I'm surprised you didn't mention any of the Old Republic cinematics (there was one released relatively recently too.) Those things get rewatched (at least by me) constantly, because they are some of the highest quality lightsaber fights we have.
I wasn't even aware of them. I'll have to check it out.
@@DespotofAntrim Well ... what did you think?
@@DespotofAntrim what did you think?
I wish I could go back and watch Luke walk through that hallway again for the first time. Ever since Disney bought Star Wars that's been the only moment I've been genuinely ecstatic and screaming with joy.
Now I'm just sad..... I had so much hope that they could keep up the quality. I really don't have any hope left now.
Yes, the feeling of crushed hopes is sickeningly familiar to a generation of movie fans. I remember being excited when Disney aquired Star Wars. Even 10 years prior they might have got a couple of good movies out before the Great Awokening descended on Hollywood like a poisonous fog, Star Wars never stood a chance in current era.
Why are you sad? Nobody can ever take away the original films. Be happy you can still enjoy them and don't focus on movies which aren't even made by the original creator.
It's like getting angry over a fan fiction story you came across on the internet made by 15 year old Jane Doe in Wisconsin or wherever.
Disney holding a paper proclaiming they hold the rights to the franchise does not neglect fhe fact that the George Lucas wasn't involved at all in the creative process therfore these films can NEVER be cannon.
Hopefully one day George Lucas will tell us a short summary on how the story is really supposed to end but I wouldn't hold my breath on that ever happening due to NDAs he's no doubt signed as part of the sale to Disney
@Casimir III I'll give the Lucas originals and prequels a rewatch this year. Maybe they can rekindle a little bit of that passion I used to have for it.
Tuskan Raider sitcom: make it happen.
Don't say that out loud, Disney might hear you.
@@DespotofAntrim *HRRRRNNNK HORK HORK HORK* *Waves gaffi stick triumphantly*
An old saying comes to mind “A camel is a horse by committee”. A successful franchise be it a movie “Lord Of The Rings” or TV “Game Of Thrones” is made great because they were created by one person who’s able to carry the story arc from start to finish. Too many painters adding their brush strokes to the painting eventually just makes brown 💩
Once you realize Star Wars (as well as many other franchises) is used as a medium to communicate W.O.K.E messages and not to honor it, not even to make money, it all makes sense.
So W.O.K.E is an acronym?
Does it mean: We Only Kill Everything.
Disney: Soon Star Wars will be strong again, united as one clan under one banner. Mine.
Kreia: Ah yes, the new Trilogy - after the last one was ended by fans and audiences. Such a defeat was merciful, an echo of the end, when your movies were in flames, crushed in the grip of TROS. But I do not need to remind you of such things.
Disney: I was at The Rise of Skywalker! And I remember how many EU stories died to stop us there! And no matter how many dead Force Awaken setups orbit the surface of people's minds, the Sequels still live. Star Wars still lives. See Boba there - he was Mandalore in the EU. Obi-Wan was just hiding out in the desert for 19 years. I brought them here, gave them a purpose. This galaxy will be ours again. I promise you. That is the future.
Kreia: Indeed? The future is always in motion, it is a difficult thing to see. Perhaps there will be no new age, Disney, no great Trilogy to unite fans. Perhaps your people fought their last battle when you bought Star Wars, and you have been dying ever since, a quiet death that will last years. And perhaps all that remains will be what I see before me: a property, wounded by Greed, encased as a Disney+ exclusive, haunted by the thought of being the last Star Wars content.
-Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords; (probably)
Star Wars will end up being a third rate MCU hanging around the bowels of Disney+.
@Despot of Antrim A detestable end for a once noble and beloved fandom. Like a mind-controlled King Theoden drowning in the latrine, instead of a sane King Theoden, leading his people at the Battle of Pelennor Fields and dying with full glory in combat.
Kennedy and Disney have tripled down after the UK SW celebration it was the funeral for Star Wars
Star Wars is no longer dying, it is dead.
One metric I think is most important is the franchise popularity with children. As much as many fans hate to admit it the target demographic of Lucas StarWars was children and young adults. Lucas even points this out directly in multiple interviews and the emphasis on toys and video games backs this up.
I often ask kids if they like StarWars and aside from the Mandalorian and baby Yoda the silence is deafening. Not once have I heard kids say Rey is their favorite character or ask their parents to watch TROS.
On the other hand Stranger Things is popular with kids who in my opinion are too young to be watching it.
That can give a franchise legs like no other tactic. It’s why 40-50 year olds still love trilogy of films intended for children and the prequel trilogy is still wildly popular with people in their 20s. Even you, who I can guess is not a huge prequel fan, actually praised the trilogy more than the Original Trilogy.
The Sequel trilogy and Disney Star Wars in General just doesn’t have that power with the kids of today.
As was said on Midnight's Edge.... All the cool kids are playing with Marvel superheroes, not Star Wars Sequel.
Side note: Disney used phase 4 to do in MCU.
No, the movie was originally targeted to *no one:* George didn't know what the heII he was doing story wise, his colleagues criticized him *before* the editing saving the first movie.
*After the first movie's success,* George capitalized on licensing and then *yes,* toys were targeted for children and the franchise started to incorporate more kid friendly things.
But it wasn't anything like "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" original animated series that was only created to promote toys. Some Star Wars fans overreact too much in that aspect.
@@OtherDASWhen I think Disney Star Wars and kids, I remember Mark Hamill scolding Trump's grandchildren on social media for dressing up as the characters for Halloween.
I vividly remember that because it was such a petty thing to do to children and at the time Hamill was the biggest star representing the Disney trilogy. All eyes were on him.
I also remember Ethan Van Sciver documenting Star Wars toys not selling and pilling up on the few Toys "R" Us stores still working while the brand was going bankrupt. A poetic scene.
@@redacted2275 Is Ethan WCBSers? If so I recall that as well.
The OT was rated PG at the time. So kids could watch with parental guidance.
The Last Jedi is what truly broke my fandom for Star Wars, I haven’t watched any of it since and have given up completely on Disney
Not just star wars, pop culture and fun as a whole. The last jedi was equivalent to the comet that wiped out the dinosaurs 🦕 ☄️☠️
This is absolutely heartbreaking for fans of both the OT and the PT(like me). Star Wars was captured in 2012 and executed in 2014 with the EU purge
After i found this channel I often binge watched many episodes in a row. I find it ASTOUNDING how high quality the videos are even back before 1000 subs. I legitimately thought the posts by Despot celebrating 20 subscribers and then 1000 subs was a jhoke. I couldn't believe the immense effort put in before the channel even made it to two dozen subs. I mean Jesus Christ dude...i have like 21 subs and i only have 5 videos, rough quality android filmed videos of myself playing guitar to backing tracks i found online. I cant imagine putting in the work to make such professional looking videos so early on. Despot..you are one of the rare UA-camrs that genuinely deserve the success. Heh the "star wars 9: weekend at palpys" jhoke would be enough to raise to that height alone 😂
Thanks man. I really appreciate the feedback. I'd be lying if I said it doesn't feel great to get that kind of recognition. I've a new, more experimental video out next Sunday. Hope you enjoy it.
I have not found a UA-cam channel that I have enjoyed watching more since the early days of geeks and gamers you are amazing sir you are absolutely amazing
This was a very good video. Personally not watched stranger things but comparing Star Wars to other intellectual properties I know off one relatively new and one as old if not older you can see the same contrast. Mobile Suit Gundam is literally Japanese Star Wars, with massive mobile suits built all over Japan. It has a huge legacy audience, massive popularity and even global appeal (like Star Wars did). However why Gundam still thrives and Star Wars plummets into ever increasing toxicity and disgrace is because Gundam holds up its legacy with admiration and respect for its iconic characters. Same goes for many other properties outside of the Hollywood sphere of influence.
As a franchise I can actually place next to Star Wars in terms of its drop off and dwindling fan base is Halo. Once the biggest gaming Juggernaut - now a failing brand with a terrible image, more a mockery of itself. It all stemmed from its own Last Jedi moment (Halo 5) and its own sequel trilogy (reclaimer saga) that attempted to sell out the fans for the broader audience. Even when they had hit a limited success (Halo Wars 2 return of a classic art style similar to Mandalorian and its Baby Yoda and Luke's Return) it quickly pittered out with terrible follow ups with the disastrous launch of Halo Infinite and the... Halo TV series (the same as Obi Wan and Book of Boba Fett).
And absurd as it is they both (Halo and Star Wars) also had a disastrous run of fails over a period of ten years if not a few more.
I genuinely believe that a franchise that ends up with a Last Jedi moment might truly be fated to die. How dose one recover from such a fall. And if they do hit a Last Jedi moment, catch gold only to drop it again... well its all over.
They really shit the bed so hard with the sequel trilogy. I could write paragraphs just reiterating everything you said, and then some, but the main reason why; what a great main cast they had. I really was excited about Rey, and seeing that world from her perspective. I believed her as that character. She fits. They blew it. Fin…how do you ruin such a potentially fantastic story line? And the dynamic between he and Rey. The sexual tension. And Poe…perfect role for Oscar and basically the new Han Solo without being a carbon copy. They could have set those 3 up for an AMAZING trilogy. I actually liked Adam Driver as Kylo. He was really the only thing to me that ended up being worth a damn in that whole trilogy, even though he was written horribly, as well. And these fucks had ALL 3 of the original actors STILL ALIVE, and didn’t put them all in one scene together. How…fucking…dare you. And god forbid you have a world with endless amounts of extended universe to find a new villain…you bring back fucking Palpatine. They destroyed the greatest IP in cinema history in my opinion. I never thought I’d long to watch the prequels again and again. So sad that wrong can never be righted. Carrie Fisher having passed and then murdering Han(though I understand he only signed on for the one movie anyhow). I didn’t expect to type this much, haha. Something I’ve loved my entire life man, and they just spit on it as if it didn’t set the bar for how movies are made for the next 40-50 years. Brutal.
2024 Update: Star Wars died and is now an undead franchise
I hope Goerge Lucas is ashamed of himself selling his soul to the Devil.
Sincerly hope he did not take shares in DisneyCorp as payment.
Absolutely fantastic video. Loved the contrasts between Stranger Things and DISNEY Star Wars, nailed it. This video came out before the horrific Mando season 3. I would love to hear your take on that. One of the only good things to happen as a result of DISNEY Star Wars, is it has increased my appreciation and love of the prequel trilogy. Just absolutely mind boggling how poor of a job Disney has done with something so important to so many people.
This is one of the best UA-cam videos I have ever seen. Subbed.
Mate, you comprehensively nailed it on every point. Great video & entertaining editing.
You deserve more subscribers, keep it up!
Thanks very much! As a Star Wars fan, I hope the franchise dies soon.
@@DespotofAntrim Same & I concur.
@Despot of Antrim It can only get a new lease on life after wokeness dies, to thunderous applause. And only as a CGI animated series. That's the only way we'll ever see the trio of Luke, Leia and Han back for more adventures - they won't even be able to use the same actors for the voices.
Carrie Fisher is gone, God rest her. Harrison Ford probably doesn't have much longer left (he's also sick and tired of Han Solo), and Mark Hamill is getting on in years and won't tolerate wokeness being annihilated.
Old Wars is dead. The best that we can hope is something new done right, that honors the material, characters, themes and fans. But done with new actors. That's the only chance it has left.
Fin looked like such a promising character in the first trailers. Totally wasted by the writers. He should have had his own "Hero's Journey".
The sad truth is he was just a token black character.
@@DespotofAntrim It's a shame! In the trailers there was a possibility of a strong character. Major more interesting than Rey (I know instantly that Rey's missing parents would like her to the Skywalker's)
They don't even understand the heroes arc. They just throw together some scenes and member berries
Well they needed someone to shout "rey!" Every 5 minutes.
Even in the Chinese posters they shrunk him 😂
criminally under viewed video . I appreciate your work, it will go through. You provide quality.
Thanks very much for the feedback!
Makes me so sad that you're right. But you are. You didn't say a single thing I disagreed with.... Disney truly followed through with their terrible line of "let the past die, kill it if you have to". They killed Lucas' vision and probably killed any chance of the next generation picking SW up and enjoying it.
As well as Amazon with the Rings of Power. They hate Tolkien and the Audience.
@@ziephel-6780 it certainly feels that way! They butchered that show
@@Swiftey-wu2qq A single dirty stain on a lovely painting is the most noticable and the most distracting from the actual art.. that is all they need. One stain.
bro. I just discovered your channel w your other starwars video, and you really know how to write, narrate and dissect! you are spot on w your disney sw analysis. the incredible thing is, before disney bought sw, there were 100s of stories, comics, books, video games, fan fiction and more. starwars was still thriving and successful. well worth the investment by disney... except that they totally blew it. I was as diehard a sw fan as one could get. 20min into the last jedi and I was like wtf is this?? not only could I not recognize it as a starwars film, I loathed and hated the movie more than anything I had ever see before I was even an hour in. I was furious when I left the theater and after I had meditated on what was produced, I completely turned my back on this franchise. I mean, I don't even care about the originals anymore! the last jedi was such poison, that I lost my taste for everything starwars. having spent countless dollars on the franchise prior to disney's acquisition, especially on video games, my money would never go to this franchise again after that abomination of a film. disney ddnt just lose money from me going forward, they actively killed a super fan. starwars has been relegated to a series of films I watched as a child and nothing more. anyways, can't wait to check out more of your content! subbed.
Disney Star Wars makes me more unimpressed by the old movies retroactively. That’s an impressive feat. Where a bad handling of an IP damages it that much that it retroactively makes me view the original as less good l than I thought it was before. The IP isn’t even worth trying to save cause it’s so ran through the ground.
I know what you mean. A lot of people are looking at this crap and thinking: 'Was Star Wars always this bad?' That's how awful the Disney content is.
@@DespotofAntrim I feel like maybe I know too much about Star Wars by proxy now that it really dulled the wonder I saw in it as a kid. Up til before the Disney stuff I legitimately thought George Lucas planned the films out from the beginning only to find out that the modern movies’ “plan it as you go” mindset was at play all along with the OT. And now that I know that it makes rewatching the old movies feel like constantly having it in mind that it had no real plan makes it noticeable. Like it’s amazing it still flows well enough but at parts like Leia and Luke being twins separated at birth… I just think “random?” Like it was just a really weird choice at ending the love triangle. That and Han was apparently supposed to have died with the carbonite scene and I like that he got brought back (I prefer happy endings) but it does feel like walking back a bold choice for a safe one (though again, it wasn’t a bad choice just definitely one that does seem like a JJ Abrams Rise of Skywalker undo-button on the previous film part).
@@Nightman221k maybe the next star wars mivie will be hugh hit hopfullyn
NO, IT WASN'T! Star Wars always had a relatively simple, but strong story. That's what it was, uncomplicated but pure. Disney couldn't even get that much right, because they are soulless imbeciles.
Luke and Leia mouth kissing is still unforgivable
I am rewatching this gem after experiencing the masterpiece that is your Acolyte video. Long may you reign!
Thanks man, and I appreciate the tip!
Well, you released this video right before Andor came out, which has been pretty much universally acclaimed as probably the best ever Disney release in the Star Wars Universe. The problem is that all the other Disney productions were just schlocky bits rushed out by a mindless corporate need to fill movie and TV time slots, and so were poorly written and poory cast bits of junk designed as "fan service", not great stories or movies. Andor was created by a veteran of the film industry, Jack Gilroy, who really knows how to put a great story together.
Not just Disney releases, Andor is one of the best SW media ever released, its so good. So many memorable scenes, speeches, the music is great, and cinematography can get really beautiful.
@@Bionickpunk the only issue about Andor is that it came out in very bad moment. As Star Wars stuff, for me is the best since Empire strikes back
I am proud to say I have never seen a single second of Stranger Things .
That Back to the Future clip really disturbed me
I'm glad that Robert Zemeckis said that this won't happen as long as him and the writer, Bob Gale lives
So, for now, this franchise is protected
No one is going to force you to watch the new ones is they do make them. Just say "nope, these are the real films, I am not interested in watching and new movie eh the same name" and don't watch it. It's not hard. The fact that it exists shouldnt make you lose sleep. Fuck em.
Today's screenwriters after seeing the bit at 14:35: "How in the hell did our script leak?!?!?"
You need WAY more subscribers.
Thanks for saying so, and for watching!
I can only imagine Kathleen Kennedy has some compromising photos of her bosses to remain employed by Disney.
The only good thing about star wars latley aside from Mandolorian has been the animated stuff and saddly cartoons are seen as kids stuff (yet ironically they've been more adult and tackle themes and have great characters compared to the live action star wars)
love how people pay such little attention to age ratings that peeps will go on record and openly talk about their kids watching what is technically illegal for them to watch.Not that im complaining,my dad let me watch all the classic horror films from about the age of 4
Nice.
You *could* break down the reasoning about how becoming aware of and antiquated with violence helps one mature in a fallen world racked with violence. Hypothetically.
@@Neon-Covenanter lol I do agree but my original comment was already turning into a wall of text
The Phantom Menace was better than the all the Star Wars sequels. At least episode I made sense in the SW universe, unlike episode VII-IX. Episode VII could've been better though.
True, it has redeeming features and makes sense. Unlike all the Disney junk.
There I AM - Darth Maul... Cinematic brilliance 🤣🤣🤣
Glad someone finally mentioned that.
Andor is the last thing holding me onto it. Also I will never forget what the sequel trilogy did to the Star Wars toy industry
Lets pray or even sacrifice an animal to have a new season with the same quality
The Mandolorian is like the people in the engine room during the titanic, keeping the ship afloat but just barely.
The first 2 seasons were good, at least.
Eurgh
That chase scene
Leia outrunning adults
I know, it's like she has Level 5 Celerity discipline from the Vampire: The Masquerade RPG 🙂
Despot...PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make more movie trailer parodies....YOU ARE SUPER TALENTED AT MAKING THOSE !!!!
Your Back to the Future with Zendaya got me to sub.
I was very proud of that.
Good video , as always.
And thanks for calling out Stockman for what he is!
What Disney did to Star Wars breaks my heart.
It just pisses me off.
Kennedy can burn in hell for what she's done to it.
Funny enough, I think your Back to the Future parody was a pretty acute description of actual Dr Who.
You hit the nail on the head I've said it for two years that Back To The Future is the last one standing but will be next
Star Wars to me committed the one unpardonable sin - it diluted its own brand. Remember when the old movies felt like an event? When they were special precisely because they were rare and weren't coming out every damn year? They robbed their own property of its mystique and that's a huge part of audience investment.
And once that's gone, good luck getting it back.
….and, it’s gone.
See how quickly that dropped off the radar
💯
When my sister and I were kids we’d always laugh our azz’s off when the tuskans shot that pod racer. So hilarious. Im glad I haven’t watched ANY Disney Star Wars since episode VII and good thing I didn’t.
And yet, this still don't convince me to watch Stranger Things!
Agreed lmao
To be honest The 2 athletes Fighting with Lightsabres was fucking Lit🔥🔥🔥🔥
and btw, the cuckoo's nest insert bit was freakin' hilarious!
well done 😀
My relationship with star wars is strange. The Original Trilogy was before my time, and the prequels were meant for my generation.
I saw the first prequel film as a very young child, and was enamored by the dazzling effects and creatures, and was especially in love with the design of the Naboo starfighter. To this day it's still my favorite ship design in the franchise, and im crushed it did not feature in the Clone Wars cartoon in any way- but im getting ahead of myself.
By the time Attack of the clones released, i was more able to understand the story it told, and i was repelled by it utterly. I did not accept anikan as the hero, was unimpressed by padme, and was constantly agitated that no one could see the obviously evil chancellor palpatine for what he really was. Even my child self could tell he and Sidious were one and the same by the end of phantom menace. The cold, unnatural way the characters behaved around one another confused and unnerved me. However what kept me in was the appeal of the jedi themselves. The contrast of the spiritual, and majestic culture of the jedi set against the advanced technology of the space setting- yet one that was undeniably fantasy in design.
Despite my problems with the story and characters i found the setting irresistable, and wanted to see more of it.
However, My family never bothered to go see Revenge of the Sith, so evidently my mother and father were not enthused.
I didn't see star wars till the first time until i was already an adult. A jaded art student. Apparently the only worse period in my life to see it would have been as a teenager, because i was completely ambivalent to it. all i saw was the hokey sets, the wodden performances, and the bastarding flat wide shots. The magic of the Jedi was all but absent, as well as the amazing and beautiful landscapes and fantastic locations. and in thier place was cold industrial sets and a world war 2 allegory wearing a gritty, analog sci fi aesthetic. The very things people love about the original films was a complete turn off for me!
I was ready to wite off Star Wars as simply not being for me at that point, but was saved by Dave Filoni's Clone Wars series. Finally, I could have my magical space ninja wizards, and have them also be good characters. Not only that, the war story was engaging and carefully plotted. Characters the prequel trilogy deemed disposable were key players in the cartoon, and became as beloved as the ones from the original trilogy!
It was after seeing the original 5 seasons that i finally sat down to watch empire, and the jump in quality from the original film was staggering. The cinematography was worlds better, the lighting hid the imperfections in the costuming better, the puppetry was amazing, and the story was immaculate. Though i had known for years that Darth Vader was Luke's father thanks to pop cultural osmosis, the scene in which he reveals this was no less captivating.
So there i was, an adult, poised to see the brand new sequel film, my only real nostalgia being for an spin-off cartoon that, by design, would have no bearing on the larger story told in the films, save for how it would superficially elevate the prequels.
And then we got a cynical, lazy, unimaginative remake of Star Wars. The grime was back, the puppets were back, even the stupid cameras were back (The miniatures were not back- they never left, despite what plinkett tells you), but it was all such an obvious sham, a ploy to be as un-like the prequels as possible and pander to fans of the original trilogy, and being as unchallenging a story as possible to appeal to the masses.
i initially thought it to be a drab, but inoffensive movie with an obnoxiously over-powered protagonist, but destroying coroscant was the last straw. (yes i know they backpedaled and claimed that it wasnt supposed to be coroscant but fuck you they knew exactly what they were doing) I knew then that this new series was not for me, and wasn't going to entertain it any longer.
of course, i would see the last jedi, dragged to the theater by my unfortunate sister, fooled by the disney marketing machine's female empowerment angle, and it was a far worse film than Attack of the Clones. That movie *hates* star wars, and wants the viewer to as well. I have not seen Rise of Skywalker, and do not plan to. As far as im concerned, Star Wars is already dead to me.
Though I feel this way, I'm not unhappy. I'll always have "My" star wars. I've got seven whole seasons of it, plus 4 more from it's worthy sequel.
I wish Dave the best of luck, and hope that he not fall victim to any of Disney's poison.
The prime of star wars was around revenge of the sith. That’s when they made the most money, made the most games, sold the most toys, etc…
It hurts to be one of the Hardcores(Hardcore Star Wars Fan). Disney has not only killed Star Wars in it's entirely but it has also besmirched it's name. Dragging it through the mud for lowly and despicable profit. No one will remember Star Wars for what it used to be. A cinematographic masterpiece of an Original Trilogy, made by the greatest generation of filmmakers that share my passion for creativity and storytelling. A decent Prequel Trilogy that despite of it's flaws, filled in the gaps of the Chosen One's Story and completed the circle. Finally, 40 years worth of expanded content spanning 25,000 years of LORE. No, instead they will only remember the absolute FLOP that is the Sequel Trilogy and what not to do with a beloved franchise.
Wow, kinda just discovering your channel, and I am impressed! Some real pearls in this video. Well done.
Calling star wars a dying franchise is like calling a man who died 5 years ago and is completely decomposed in the ground "dying"
In bad ealth
Wow... incredible video essay with brilliant points, examples and comparisons! Hope disney watches this and learns something lol
Thank you very much! It's too late for Disney, they are hurtling downhill toward a cliff and nothing can stop it.
It would not surprise me if they did do a deep analysis of this and I can just see some exec running into a big boardroom and announcing they think they understand and conclude they need even more woke adaptions and more diversity and even more female hero's. They are that far beyond now.
Sigh this was hard to watch but so true. Im a trans girl and love the prequels and Hayden and Ewan but i dont want this woke bullshit around and i certainly dont need characters to be trans or gay or black or whatever but everyone seems to think that is a must instead of just going for quality. Really pisses me off, this was sad but very very true.
Hayden is a nice guy and his career went south after the prequels, I was glad he caught a break with this show. He deserved a lot better the piece of shit they put him in.
@Ryan Vetter my comment was kinda related to the video but thanks for your input.
As someone who's gay I really agree with this statement.
It feels more like we're being fetishized then actual attempts at writing a character that just so happens to be gay or trans or whatever.
Instead they just shove it in your face like...
Hey guys, look at our amazing representation!
missed opportunity:
Black to the future.
Great analysis and would certainly agree. Disney bought what they assumed was a cash making machine they could dress anything up in Star Wars and sell and have been consistently proved wrong. Sound and vision is there but no story and no respect to what they had bought, just an expensive cosplay. I am a big EU fan and to have them throw out all that and replace it with such badly written drivel. They would be better off admitting there error and restarting the whole thing with the Thrawn Trilogy and Dark Empire series, going DC dark
Yes, it was amazingly arrogant of Disney to ignore the EU. Thrawn is a great character. They'll rape him eventually though. They tossed out decades of carefully thought out ideas because apparently Mary Sue Skywalker was more compelling.
StarWars didn't die, it was killed.
The last Star Wars thing I watched was the first season of the Mandalorian. Haven't even been tempted to watch anything else. It's absurd that they would just flush 4.5 BILLION dollars down the drain for one woman's pride. It's literally a 'truth is stranger than fiction'.
12:00 I do miss those video during the sequel era where people would make long rants just tearing the movies apart. I still remember that one guy who made an hour long video ah good times
It's «subverting the expectations», mate:D
Thanks.
"an angry black woman, waving a red stick around." Okay, this line made me crack up. Good stuff!
I went to see The Force Awakens in the cinema with mates back in 2015. When they did the multi planet mega-death-star blowy uppy thing I got up, walked out, and sat in the bar downstairs til it was over. All my mates gave me shit for it.
Fast forward to today, I haven't seen another Star Wars film or show since, and all I hear from my mates is how absolutely shit they have all been since Disney took over. You can imagine my smug-as-fuck face whenever it gets brought up that I bounced half way through that god awful shitshow.
Good story. I remember wanting to like Force Awakens but thinking that the giant death star was one of the dumbest fucking things I had ever seen in a movie, and thus, being unable to.
@@DespotofAntrim I literally did the Family Guy "Done!", arms up and everything. Childhood ruined in one single scene.
@@Truffle_Pup NEVER let them forget that you were right then. Never.
Yeah, it's really hard to admit that the star wars magic is finally dead, it endured over so many generations, made countless millions of people beleive in the wonders of cinema and it all was undone by one stroke of a pen when Lucas signed it over Disney. The tragedy is not that Disney only ruined the work they have done in the name of star wars so far but that they will not be happy until even the original movies are somehow tainted because of how thoroughly they've poisoned the characters from them.
Disney forced Lucas to sell his passion and then brutally raped it until it was unrecognizable. It's a sad time we live in now that wokism has ruined a galaxy far, far away.
I had a hard time staying awake for Kenobi, and half the time my son was on his phone. Usually, I make him put his phone aside when we watch stuff together. I couldn't justify it for that show. With Boba Fett, apart from the Mando episode, we only paid attention to laugh at it. The scooter gang was hilarious.
"Bottom surgery from Obi-Wan"
Are you trying to kill me from laughter? 😂 That joke got you a subscriber.
That was some shit hot marksmanship by the tuskan Raiders.
Your videos are so spot on and hilarious!!
Thank you! Glad you're enjoying them.
Everyone knows that there are only 3 Star Wars -> "Star Wars", "The Empire Strike Back", "Return of the Jedi". Everything else is franchise milking garbage.
You mean 6 including:
TPM
AOTC
ROTS
To quote maul
“What once was great is rendered small.”
My 7 year old absolutely loves Star Wars, obviously in particular the clone wars and rebels animated series. Like so many other kids he loves Obi Wan and Vader.
He didn't like Kenobi, at all. lmao I've never said anything bad about star wars in front of him and even him, 6 at the time, knew Kenobi was garbage.
Also, obligatory shout out to Sweet Daddy Walsh and his nonstop based takes.
Why am i finding this channel just now, you have some truly entertaining content
Thanks. Welcome to the channel. Mando season 3 was so bad that I'm almost embarrassed that I said season 1 was good.