Arrows blowing by Elrons hair is such an unbelievably badass opening for the movie. Cripes! Right off the bat, this movie tells you that you're in for some serious shit.
Utter stupidity if you know anything about bows and arrows or medieval warfare. The battle scenes in the Lord of the Ring trilogy ruined the movie for me. I don't hate it, I just can't take it seriously. In my country we had many interesting battle during the medieval, probably more than anyone else in Europe because we fought against the most powerful armies, we fought against both Roman Empire, we fought against the german tribes and The Holy Roman Empire, we fought against the Mongol and the Turk and all of our major battle is really interesting. I noticed people are not able to produce more intersting stuff than real life itself. This is the situation both with Tolkien and Jackson too. Of course I understand in the case of the books the catholic theme is the point, not the fantasy battles. Which is good because the battles are suck.
@@Zodroo_Tintas a historian, I get picking apart battles. Basically every depiction of warfare from the past is BS. But the movies are so insanely good. It’s just peak cinema. Everything about it is great. Even the dumb parts of battles were used to bolster the fantasy spectacle. Horses also don’t charge spear lines, but you can’t catch me with dry eyes during the ride of the rohiram. Impossible scene, no basis in warfare or history. One of the best scenes in cinema.
In memory of Robert Paulson, murdered in cold blood in his own cave on a Friday night by a pointy-eared Karen. Rest in peace, sweet troll, knowing you shall live on in our hearts.
"They have a cave troll." That one line uttered by Boromir (the great Sean Bean) captures SO much feeling -- he's scared, he's feeling helpless, he's grim and resigned. Fantastic performance in such a short line. Another of the best lines by Boromir: "It is a strange fate that we should suffer so much fear and doubt over so small a thing. Such a little thing." He's confused, intrigued, strangely drawn to this "small thing", and hints at its danger and potential control over him. Another fantastic moment. The real LotR was brilliant!
His tone for that line always made me feel like he's thinking "Well, shit." Like, if somebody had been dumb enough to say "it can't get any worse", you could hear the troll roar, have Sean Bean say that line, and you wouldn't need to change a single inflection.
Tolkien described the elves stringing their bows with their own hair. It’s pretty obvious that he envisioned them as having long strong beautiful hair.
"But most it was their wont to sail in their swift ships upon the waters of the Bay of Elvenhome, or to walk in the waves upon the shore with their long hair gleaming like foam in the light beyond the hill." Amazon: Sooooo buzzcut, yeah?
Which also makes Gimili’s ask of Galadriel even more bold and why this rough, sturdy, strong dwarf was so meek to ask for a couple strands of her hair in The Fellowship of the Ring.
It gets worse when you realize they gave *everyone* short hair because a certain single cast member could not grow long hair naturally. Because yes, putting a black wig on him was too much effort.
@@willb1405this criticism doesn’t stand, as you know, scissors exist? It’s not like every single elf must have long hair. I don’t remember any rule prohibiting elves from cutting their hair
I'll add another plothole that you might have missed. In lore, Numenor does not have any cavalry. This isn't because they didn't like the practice, it's because there are no warhorses that could physically bear the weight of a fully armored Numenorean. Numenoreans were quite literally superhumans. The average Numenorean was 2+ meters and 100+ kg. At that weight, a horse would only be able to maintain a rapid tempo for just a short while, never mind the continuous charge that we see in the show.
Also, if they're an island nation, what use would they really have for cavalry? You'd think they'd prioritize their navy and marines over anything else
@@darthdaddy3071They actually prioritized their navy to the point it was the most advanced ship on middle earth. Don't believe me, look for "numenorean ship meme" and you'll see.
2+ meters and 100+ kg is still very human and warhorses can absolutely bear that lol. Also it makes a lot of sense for a cinematic adaptation to depict almost human characters as humans cause, you know, actors are human.
I had always wanted a chance to see Gil-Galad depicted on screen, obviously because he is one of the greatest elves to ever live. If anyone reading does not know much about Gil-Galad; He was the last high king of the Noldor, the one who entered combat against Sauron himself with only his mortal counterpart Elendil as backup, founder of Lindon, the first to be suspicious of Annatar, the one to whom Celebrimbor entrusted TWO of the elven great rings... and he was reduced to a dismissive man-Karen. That I cannot forgive.
People following this narrative take the most powerful, successful, talented and noteworthy men of REAL LIFE history and turn them into crying babies. It's no surprise that if they would have such little respect for the achievements, skills and struggles of real history's finest, they would have no respect for the fictional either.
Omg this. Gil-galad is one of my favourite character from the Lengendarium. I’ve always loathed the Hobbit movies for giving some dwarves who had little to no line in the book more screen time than the great High King of Noldor, fucks sake! Now that he’s depicted by this shitshow as a fugly superfluous impression of a king. I can’t even.
Why does Galadriel have a *Feanorian star* on her armour? Someone legtimately posed that question to the showrunners I think it was at comic con and they could not answer it. She hated Feanor with a burning passion because he slaughtered her Teleri relatives and even before that. She would not have dreamed of wearing his family emblem. Why was there random ship full of humans in the Sundering Seas so close to Valinor when humans were specifically forbidden from attempting to sail there? Why was Elendil able to pick up Galadriel and Halbrand which would have involved him sailing West and potentially being in volation of the ban himself. Why did Halbrand seemingly not know about Numenor, when the people from the Southlands not only knew about it, but knew the direction of an abandoned Numenorian settlement?
It's the same with Halbrand/Sauron having his hands all over the 3 Elven Rings which in the books it was stated several times emphatically that Sauron never touched or sullied them and likely never even saw them being crafted in his absence. This was an important aspect with the Rings of Power. The Nine and Seven were more controlled by Sauron due to his presence in their making and his capture of them. This is why even without the One Ring, Sauron was able to control the Nazgul and apparently any mortal possessing one of the seven would fade away according to Gandalf but the 3 were different. While bound to the fate of the One Ring due to the magic and knowledge of their making, they could be used during the Third Age without Sauron able to control them or even discover them when he had gathered much of his strength at the end of the age. But ROP had an immortal being pawing the raw materials and tools in their making, in a world where powerful beings can infuse their power and will into things and places for good or evil. It shows that the showrunners really don't understand the source material.
RoP Galadriel is just a female Feanor with everything that made Feanor interesting and multidimensional tossed out (and still somehow intended as a hero rather than a tragic villain). It's not intentional, it's just that modern "strong female character" isn't much different in terms of personality than the prideful, arrogant, angry (and dare I say "toxic") male archetype that usually either gets taken down several pegs or falls to villainy and faces a justly tragic end (neither of which ever happens to the female protags) 100% unintentionally, the Feanorian star is incredibly accurate
@@RoninDave Yes, precisely. Sauron didn't touch the 3: they were made by Celebrimbor without his knowledge. Which also means they weren;t corrupted and by turn didn't have the same corrupting influence as the ones Sauron had touched. That's important because not only did Galadriel have one of the Elven Rings, Gandalf also had one: it was given to him by Cirdan the shipwright. In the RIngs of Power timeline, those are now corrupted and Galadriel and Gandalf can't use them or else Sauron will be able to control or corrupt them.
@@BroadwayRonMexico Agree with you 100%. I actually made a meme showing that she espouses most of the traits of toxic masculinity. Modern screenwriters seem to think if you give a female that traits of toxic masculinity they somehow become good and admirable. Also, yes the Feanorian star is accurate: at one point she threatens to murder Elendil over a boat. Exactly like Feanor.
@@englishlady9797 Even Feanor had better reasons for what he did. He didn't start out wanting to commit the First Kinslayins. He wanted to avenge his father and get the Simarils back but the Teleri would not give him the ships he needed so he seized them which led to violence. Galadriel wanted to get back to Middle Earth because of a vague notion that Sauron might be there based on the words of a questionable character who (gasp!) turned out to be Sauron. Elendil had saved her and she was willing to murder him. And you're right about the giving toxic masculinity traits to female characters. It begs the question was it really about disliking those traits or wanting them for themselves for a sense of empowerment. They don't realize men with those traits aren't well liked either in fiction or real life.
I never really considered it before you pointed it out, but trolls in Middle-earth are sentient. The ones in The Hobbit talk and hold conversations with one another. The whole framing of the cave troll in Fellowship is to show that it's a fully sentient being having been enslaved and tortured, until it's been mentally reduced to little more than an attack dog. That's why its final moments are framed with some sympathy. The only reason the troll in Rings of Power doesn't talk is because it's a reference to Fellowship without the necessary framing to establish why we should see it as an animal.
I remember one of the first times I watched Two Towers when Sam, Frodo and Gollum are at the Black Gate trying to get in. When the human army approaches, the gate is opened to let them in and the sweeping shot of the gate shows several trolls literally chained to the gate mechanism which they are made to turn in order to open the gates. It was pretty clear to me then that the trolls are an enslaved race.
Yup. Even Shadow of War, as much as it threw canon away, had more respect for the trolls, giving them all names and personalities just like it die the orcs.
Tolkien makes you feel that trolls are somewhat stupid and if they just had some good role models they might turn over a new leaf. I'm not sure if he was going for that but it's what he does.
Yes, the cave troll was tortured. But that's not why it doesn't talk. It doesn't talk because it's a baby. They talk about it in one of the behind the scenes. You can also compare it's size to that of the three adult cave trolls in the first Hobbit movie.
Yea seriously, I saw a woman who was a woman like a gadriel during an accident that happened to someone on the road. I was helping the guy, there was chaos, and women around due to movie influence where screaming or trying to command other man to do this and that which was impossible given the situation. Then a woman came out of her suv, very elegant, spoke very few word, and gave accurate assessment of what should the other man do to help the guy who had accident, and she also did what she could do, Didn't try to do the man's job
You also missed the fact that they push this: "All men have to cry and act like soft children to have any worth" And "If a man acts masculine then he's worth nothing"
While in the military, someone commented "(rings of power) Galadriel is exactly the kind of leader that would get fragged." And they're right. She is the anti-leader in this show, and is a laundry list of everything a soldier would hate to follow.
She did get her team killed, still she killed the ice troll in under 10 seconds. Something she later braggs about and shows no remorse over losing her comrades. It's very very very poorly written, it is a shame that Tolkiens name is associated with this "TV series". They could have simply created their own IP, then Tolkien fans wouldn't have cared or known about this sewage.
@@ilovepeoplebro yeah, but Tolkien's Galadriel was not like that, was quite the oposite, she was an admired, feared figure, a God-like being, that's why this show is so wrong.
The last words of a dying Boromir in Fellowship sums up what redemption, sacrifice, and character growth are all about: (To Aragorn) "I would have followed you, my brother, ... my captain, ... my king." FRIGGIN EPIC!!! Its amazing that in Fellowship, there are so many incredible line/scenes/moments. Does this disaster of an Amazon show have ONE defining / eternal moment or memory? So much Mary Sue, so little passion/growth/story arc.
It's definitely the complete bollockry of the twat explaining why rocks sink and a ship floats. That was epic in its stupidity! Or Galadriel diving into the middle of the goddam ocean to swim 3000 odd miles back. I imagine she did backstroke for a bit of it at least to conserve energy, at least for the first mile or so before she was overwhelmed by 40ft waves and drowned. That is genius in its idiocy! (She should've just used the eagles (the giant mythical creatures, not the band)).
the fact Galadriel and Sauron never actually had a relationship in the books is hilarious. This whole thing (like most franchises now) are just feminist fan fiction.
One of the significant and often overlooked sins of this abomination is short-haired elves. It physically hurts my eyes. In fantasy in general, "contemporary" looks and hairstyles create a terrible effect and spoil the style, and unfortunately, they are becoming more and more common. Men in fantasy should either have long hair or be bald.
Speaking of which, there was a film that came out recently based on the ancient Hindu epic “Ramayana”. It’s called “Adipurush” and was heavily panned in India because of its poor handling of the source material (which is a religious text btw, and the hero Rama is worshipped as a god) and atrocious vfx. One criticism that was raised was that none of the characters look right, especially the antagonist- the evil demon king Ravana (called Lankesh in the film). Ravana in the epic is an upper caste demon who wears a heavy moustache and traditional long hair. In the film, the character has a full beard and a fade, which resulted in immense backlash. His only good look in the film is when he disguises as a mendicant in order to kidnap Rama’s wife Sita.
During the 'hippy crisis' of the 60s the US government commissioned a historical study which found that historically, men have worn their hair long for 90% of history.
@@DespotofAntrim The appearance of the characters in this act of spitting in the face of the fantasy genre is doubly painful for me, because I read Tolkien's works (also The Silmarillion and all kinds of supplements / Unfinished Tales etc), quite thoroughly and with great pleasure. Someone whose ideas about this world and characters were shaped by book descriptions and phenomenal illustrations by Alan Lee and Ted Nasmith will feel especially strongly such a terrible interpretation of the presented world (especially that Jackson's LoTR showed that you can also make a film that is visually faithful to the spirit of these descriptions and classic illustrations ...).
@@aericabison23 Man I feel bad that they did that to the epic Ramayana. In my high school religious education back 17 years ago this was one of my favourite stories. It brought a pang of nostalgia until I read the rest of the comment. I kind of want to watch the advert because this modern era of movies has done nothing but turn me into a glutton for pain.
Peter Jackson omitted and revised a lot of things from the books. But you can tell he still did it with a level of care and respect. Despite what Christopher Tolkien said. The same cannot be said on the rings of power.
@adamjames2332 you'd prefer them to adapt the multiple pages spent on characters talking things out knowing that the world was at the risk of being conquered, maybe they should've made the scene with the ents 30 minutes long to match tolkiens multiple pages spent on talking in detail about their days worth of negotiation with the fellowship, if you wanna consume media that goes into world building and lore go read a book and stop bashing movies for going for the more visually entretaining part of the story, it's called Tele VISION for a reason.
@adamjames2332 he hated CGI? Was he psychic? Tolkien himself wrote the Battles of Helm's Deep and Pelennor Fields. The difference is Jackson ended Pelonnor Fields sooner with the Army of the Dead whereas the battle went on for hours in the book.
@Posstulio no it wasn't "extremely" disrespectful as the overall course of the story was not changed. The Battle of Pelennor Fields in both book and film ends in victory for the good guys. What you are doing is nitpicking an unimportant detail that doesn't change the course of the story or the themes of his work UNLIKE what ROP repeatedly did.
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What are you doing next? Spideyverse was c*** and they're piling onto the reviewers who say so, so that one will stir up some good ol' controversy. The Flash is actually quite good, but those same reviewers are pumping out what looks mostly like a lot of bad-faith reviews because, I suppose, it's click season. 🤔
it baffles me ppl defend this show by saying "you had high expectations bcuz of peter jackson trilogy, you hate it bcuz its not a peter jackson 'fantasy', its a tv show it wont be a movie quality experience".... like. this show has 10x bigget budget, has 20 years experience of existing peter jackson trilogy so just take inspiration in that trilogy, better technology, bigger fanbase, MORE actors to cast.
@@reek4062 Thank you! I'm glad I'm not the only one who realizes that the Jackson films *aren't* all that. Yes, the locales are spectacular, the music is stirring (gorgeous in places), the production values are first rate, and a good number of the cast are well-chosen. But that's all surface. The substance leaves so much to be desired. Have you ever heard the 1981 BBC Radio series? Now, that's good stuff!
@@MaskedMan66 Sorry for the late reaction. The Jackson films are like a golden, rotten sphere. They are beautiful on the outside: the score, sets, miniatures, costumes, paintings are all excellent. The casting and performances are good as well. But they are hollow and rotten on the inside: the writing is bad, because they constantly ignored or outright contradicted the book. I don't listen to radio, so I haven't listened to the BBC radio series. However, recently I have seen the Bakshi film (twice), and I really liked it. It's flawed and unfinished in several ways, but it's also sincere and relatively faithful to the book.
It's not a surprise it's so bad. When the makers come out and publicly declare that the source material and its author are trash then you know that what they produce will be the exact opposite of what Tolkien did. Just one minor point: Sauron sought dominion, not the extermination of men. Great video.
The irony is, that when I recently re-read Lord of the Rings I realised it was Galadriel who was the single most important person to the success of the fellowship, other than the fellowship themselves. She does it subtlely.
I am guilty of that guys wouldn’t feed me or just share their weed with me unless I sucked dick. I receive money so I do the same if they wanna smoke with me you gotta eat it from the back before and after
The writers should be acknowledged for the masterpiece of a show. Who else could make the evil Sauron and orcs into the good guys, whilst depicting the elves and heroes as villains.
Yup. I felt it when Adar came for one wounded orc, treated him with respect, mercy killed him, and then he and his orcs grieved. Adar has more love and respect for his orcs than Guyladriel for her soldiers, or for the humans she came to save. Also, she took the villager's child with her, without looking for the mom first...
That's what these people are doing in real life, also. It's not on accident. They know exactly what they're doing and they're doing it on purpose. They want to ruin everything any of us felt near and dear; anything that is good and wholesome. It's part of their Marxist worldview. I'm sure they think Tolkien is an outdated, racist, misogynistic homophobe whose work should be castrated, gutted, and destroyed. Why else would anyone want to base a movie or show on source material that they absolutely HATE? Fortunately, a lot of people are beginning to wake up to this insidious plot. It's not like it's secret, they openly talk about it but usually in euphemisms... "Oh, sure I think Lord of the Rings is an interesting universe, but I find many parts of it PROBLEMATIC. I think it needs to be UPDATED for our CURRENT SOCIETY." In other words, if they were honest, they would say, "I hate this famous story and I want to destroy it and eternally ruin it for everyone who ever liked it. We can't usher in our new utopia if stories like this are still around."
Its worth noting that sam calls frodo "mr frodo" not simply because Sam is of a lower status. Frodo litterally pays Sam. Sam's his gardener, one Frodo greatly respects, but despite their loyalty and friendship for eachother one is the servant and the other the master. That is the role they carry to each other and emulate.
@@pestilentsleeper9152 the poiint is that its not simply social status. Their relationship was based on like a knight squire one if i recall and its important to note sam has reason to elevate frodo specificallly
@@edouardlorge4059 If i remember correctly he was 33 yo when we first meet him and 50 yo when he left Shire. Hobbits have a longer lifespan than humans, about 100 yo, though he was still considered as what we'd call a young adult in hobbit society
Elronds intro in LOTR is one of the most badass scenes in the trilogy. Him leading the vanguard of men and elves, stone faced and collected while arrows are whizzing by his face. Thats who his character is. A stoic and fearsome leader. Not this little sensitive twink conjured up in a writers room
The thing is, LOTR Elrond was strong AND sensitive, you could feel the tenderness in his scenes with Arwen and could genuinely see him as the worried father that he is. Simply an amazing portrayal.
LOTR explores many themes that are antithetical to the modern culture. Boromir's sacrifice to protect what he belived would be the ultimate weapon of Gondor in his hand after realizing how wrong he was and accepting that he wasn't the big hero Aragorn's acceptance of the responsibilities inherent in his birthright by taking up the sword of his ancestor Samwise carrying Frodo when he falls under the weight of the ultimate evil and temptation because all he wanted to do was get himself and his friend home safe so he could live a simple life Merry and Pippin teaming up with a literal forest to take down the evil forces of the industrial revolution Gandalf returning to lead the Rohirrim to the relief of Helms Deep King Theoden cleaving to his honor and riding to the defense of Gondor despite just coming out of a desperate fight and Gondor abandoning them, then ultimately giving his life at the head of his army Aragorn and the remaining army of the West standing at the Black Gate not knowing if Frodo was even going to succeed but still being willing to give their lives to give him time Plus that Theoden scene never fails to get to me: "The beacons are lit! Gondor calls for aid!" Then there's that beat where you think he could be like nah fuck Gondor let them die But then it comes: "And Rohan shall answer!" Cue the epic music
@@rickb.4168 doesn't matter, his point stands. The themes that made the first lotr movies exciting and good are antithetical to post-2012 modern society.
@@rickb.4168 That's not his point. It's to do with the themes within the films. Most of which came from Tolkien and a few of which came from the writers.
It sucks. The reviewer clearly hasn’t read the books and doesn’t even know the story that he is commenting on. The reviewer is just like the woke, making up his own story and claiming it’s lotr
I laughed/groaned when the great Elven lords rocked up at Moria like two boys asking if their mate can come out to play, instead of arriving with an impressive retinue at a diplomatically agreed time. Also, Dwarves spend most of their time underground. Why would any be black?
I watched the first episode than quit. Couldn't see any more. I'm serious...I just couldn't. I'm a screenwriter myself, producer and I'm on a school to improve my skills here in Brazil. I'm not staying in the area, but if I would ever be successful I would rather let my work die unnoticed than put it in the hands of Disney or people like those. This is blasphemy. It's like whipping a dog's ass with someone's life's work. Disrespect in the utmost level.
18:20 “This show wants you to think the slaughter of the troll as a great victory in the face of an attacking villain. But it isn’t. It’s a murder of a peaceful creature in it’s own home” 🤣🤣
@@mathew6116 He was jumped by her rubbish "forces" first, but that doesn't mean he's not a rotten creature., like all trolls in Middle-earth. Or at least, most versions of Middle-earth.
Arwen was a descendant of Beren and Luthien and therefore was partly human, the line of those halv-elves could decide to become mortal and living a human life. This is why we see Arwen being "sick" in the movies. She died a year after Aragorns death from a broken heart (123 years after the marriage), but she wouldn't have lived for eternity anyways due to her decision.
The lineage of Aragon also goes way back to Beren and Luthien. The union between elves and humans works almost like full circle in this case. Because from Beren and Luthien was born the greatest of the human race, and at the time of the lord of the rings story human's strenght was fading. Arwen's and Aragon union "fixed" that. Rings of Power having a elf human romance is too fucking cheap, it just shows how the writers understand nothing about Tolkien.
Part of what makes Aragorn and Arwen's story so fascinating is the whole conflict about her being immortal and him not being so. In the books---specifically the end of Appendix A in "The Return if the King"---Elrond compares a twenty-year-old Aragorn to a yearling shoot next to Arwen's "birch of many summers". So there's already an age-difference issue, even though both Aragorn and Arwen are adults. And if they marry, and Arwen chooses to forsake her immortality, they will both die. But Arwen is willing to take that chance if it means she can have Aragorn's love, and even though he loves her, he is willing to let her sail West so that she won't have endure the pain of widowhood. Casual treatment of Elf-Human relationships really hurts the issue more than helps.
@@dimasgirl2749 Technically she didn't forsake immortality to be with Aragorn, she simply knew that his death would have broken her heart, thus killing her. That's why in the LOTR when it's shown Arwen destiny if she choose to be with Aragorn they show him dying of old age and she is still young looking by his side to mourn him.
I don't quite understand the elven immortality, but it doesn't have specifically to do with whose dick was riden and what womb spat someone out. Elrond and Elrohir were half elven brothers from the same breeding couple, and Tolkien wrote Elrond chose immortality, and the other chose to die as a human. it's sort of a gift from somw level of gods you can earn or ne granted at birth or denounce.
I loved how you correlated names with the amount of respect you had for the characters, giving the stereotypes and caricatures an equally cringy name while giving the underrated characters or creatures the acknowledgment they deserved. Hence the reason I absolutely lost it at Robert Paulson 😂
The anti-lord of the rings... So, I suppose Melkor won, in some form. A corruption of Tolkien's masterpiece. A corruption of Eru Illuvitar's will and music. That's what the Rings of Power is, symbolically. It is, at its very core, evil. A corruption of something good and beautiful. And _THAT_ is the greatest and most terrible tragedy of this entire situation.
@Posstulio Ah, sorry about that. I don’t keep up with the names of the directors and I've kinda given up on movies and tv lately. Haven't heard the news about that on UA-cam either, it might have just slipped by me while I was scrolling through or something. But, yeah, what I said here applies there too. Melkor wins, Tolkien's work is currupted, Eru Illuvitar's music is poisoned with Melkor's discordant evil, and the fans suffer because of it.
The LOTR trilogy was quite possibly a once in a lifetime achievement for P. J. Looking back, it was so good I even forgave all the changes P. J. made to the original story (Not Elrond was in command of the Elven armies, but Gil-Galad, not Arwen rode before Frodo at Imladris, but Glorfindel, the shortening of the story, Saruman was killed in the Shire etc.). The dedication of the crew was astonishing, they even built some parts of Tolkien's world for real (the Shire for ex.). Despite all this (the actors, the extras, the sets, the makeup, the superb costume designs), somehow the LOTR trilogy cost less for roughly the same amount of playtime than this Rings of Power sh*t.
Most changes are very understandable. Elrond leading the army gives a quick introduction and summary of his character. Same for Arwen, and its understandable why they didn't want to introduce another Elven character. While the scouring of the shire fits very well thematically in the book, it doesn't mesh well with the typical 3 act structure of a movie, especially one already infamous for its drawn out endings.
I wouldn't say that Elrond was depicted as the commander of the whole elven army, Gil-galad was the supreme leader ad he is shown in the introduction while he fights with his spear Aeglos. I always seen Elrond there as a sort of liutenant or something. The elven army was huge, you cannot reasonably direct such a large force all by yourself, you need some kind of lesser officers to assist you. Such was the role of Elrond during the battle, IMHO. As for Arwen rescuing Frodo, i think that was done for "cinematic flluidity", to say so: introducing Glorfindel would have meant adding a character that would had been there just for a few scenes, without appearing again enough to justify its introduction in the first place. It would have been too dispersive for the viewer, that's the same reason they have completely omitted the character of Tom Bombadil. Viceversa, Arwen was not a character that could be omitted, since she's so connected to Aragorn, one of the main characters, and it fitted well to put her in place of Glorfindel, to add needed screen time for her character and impress her more in the viewer mind. A similar point can be made for Saruman being killed in the Shire, except in this case the change is not in regards of a character, but of a piece of plot: the main story had ended, the Ring was destroyed, Sauron was defeated and peace restored in Middle-Earth. Imagine watching the movie for the first time and reaching the point of Aragorns coronation, breathing a sigh of relief after all you have seen in the three movies of the trilogy and then BAM, there is still Saruman to be dealt with. Not very fitting in a movie, isn't it?
@@GeraltofRivia22 Removing the Scouring of the Shire was an abomination. It made Frodo and company's return home utterly pointless. The avenging of the evil done by Saruman was, as Gandalf told the hobbits, "what you have been trained for."
@@jessegiroux6521One of the worst TV series ever based on one of the best series of novels ever. By the way, looks like your (Woke?) sensibilities just got tweaked. LOL!
7:10 This is because modern day SJW or progressive writers are villains. Every villain is just a weak broken person who never fit in, and then grew up seeking revenge until they got in a position to enact that revenge. The writers are all the people who didn’t fit in and so desperately wanted to, but without having to do the work. Now they are in a job where they can “enact their revenge” by writing fan fiction where they get even. They write the hero characters as themselves, which, unfortunately, carries all the dark and villainous qualities.
The saddest thing about this show is that Galadriel(the Tolkien character not Amazon's abomination) is actually an incredibly interesting character with a story that was completely unexplored by any of the movies. She is a legitimately 'strong female character', not a Mary Sue, and it would have actually been awesome to have a LotR show based around her and her story. Going back to her rise to prominence in Elven society to the point where she became one of the recipients of the 3 Elven rings and of course her lordship over her kingdom in Lothlorien. With other actions like the purging of the Necromancer from Dol Guldur which Galadriel partook in along with other prominent characters. But no, instead of that interesting story that is actually in Tolkien's works we got Amazon's atrocity that ruined Galadriel for good and destroyed any chance of actually seeing her, or any of the other interesting characters in Tolkien's works outside the trilogy.
I mean, without making any judgement on the show, good or bad, it takes place thousands of years prior to what you're talking about. So perhaps she changed as a result of her experiences. I will be honest, I read the Hobbit and LOTR, plus the Silmarilon (pretty sure I spelled that wrong) and a couple of the histories, can't recall the titles. So perhaps there are things written about Galadriel during that period that I've not read.
@@snerdterguson You do realize that Galadriel was around since the first age, right...? That means that by the time the second age begun: with Numenor and all that, Galadriel was already thousands of years old at that point. So no, the show doesn't take place thousands of years prior to what I was talking about, I was talking about her life as a whole which both precedes and succeeds Numenor(its rise and its fall). Speaking of time lines, the show doesn't even follow Tolkien's time line properly, it's all over the place. Thus your comment makes even less sense considering that's one of the key aspects this show utterly butchered.
@@snerdterguson Uhh, no. Galadriel is already thousands of years old in the Second Age. You wanna tell us that Galadriel matured only after 5,000 years?
@@snerdterguson What makes Galadriel unique even by the 2nd Age is she is the last of the Elven nobility of her generation that went to Middle Earth. She was born before the rising of the Sun and during the Bliss of Valinor when Melkor was chained so she had a unique perception over the elves who stayed in Middle Earth during the Second Age. To be really pedantic she was already around 700 years old when Melkor started sowing strife amongst the Noldor. She was already over 1200 years old when she left Valinor. It was the Kinslaying that turned her against the Wars of Beleriand and after spending time with Melian she eventually left to her brother Finrod's kingdom and left there as well to go beyond the mountains.
My fav is how Tolkien said he hated allegories and metaphors and RoP decided to fuck that and use third grade poetry homework as the basis of their dialogue
I LOVE that you mentioned the cave troll was a slave and a by-product of an evil ruler. It wasn't just an evil force doing evil things, it was a prisoner.
Well, in "The Silmarillion", trolls were bred when the rebel Vala Melkor captured some of Yavanna's Ents and tortured them beyond recognition. He did the same thing with torturing Elves into Orcs.
If the pfp is you, you should LOVE ROP - You can see yourself reflected in the blonde female lead? If even you don't like it, I'm starting to suspect there's something a little queer about this representation stuff
@@arostwocents Yes it's actually me in my pfp. No, I do not see myself represented in the female lead whatsoever. I refuse to even watch it. I tried starting it and hate how all the characters are portrayed. This is not my Tolkien world. If I want to feel reflected in a character, I'd want it to be by personality, not looks.
Writers don't understand that the strength and capability of a character is less important than how a character grows in the face of adversity. And if you have invincible characters, they need to be anchored to something, like superman's weakness is his love for Lois and humanity, but it's also the thing that drives him, his reason for existing. Guyladrial only cares about her own obsession with revenge, but she's perfect. Her only struggle is finding out her friend is Sauron, but she didn't even struggle with that, she doesn't care at all. I think it comes from writers with no life experience.
Feels like PTSD but it’s not addressed. And if it is PTSD it should be. Not enough with their backstory or her and Finrod to strengthen their kinship. The darkness line he says does not help either unless re-edited and almost thought she was going to be Sauron.
It's insane. Sauron just wanted to be left alone later and later he seemed quite happy to help Celibrimbor until Galadriel exposed him (but didn't tell anyone). Adar was trying to find a home for his people. Meanwhile the humans in the Southlands were dirty racists. Numenoreans were xenophobes. The Elves were manipulative of their allies and they occupied humans for a thousand years. Only the dwarves had the right idea - at least the king did who wanted them to stay out of the whole thing. And of course the Harfoots were grubby little cultist vermin who need to be wiped out. Was this the writers' intention to make the good guys reprehensible and the bad guys somewhat noble?
40% of the budget went into the graphics and visuals, which where the only part where the Woke brainrot couldnt infest as easily. 60% went into "consulting" and prolly buying mansions for the writers
They had no desire to understand it. That much is obvious. After Jackson's LOTR, Amazon wanted a Middle Earth cash cow. They gambled that whatever they threw at us would be an instant hit because, Tolkien. They bet poorly.
"Look at you now. Commander of the northern armies and warrior of the wastelands." It's incredible that it cost a billion dollars and this is the quality of the writing. And yeah- you're absolutely right. Without context freaking Sauron and the villains almost look like the good guys. "Adar" seems to care about his orcs more than Galadriel and her friends care about the people on their side. In the first episode when Galadriel tries to abandon her injured friend I assumed it was part of an arc and she would grow into a better person . . . nope. This selfish behavior is reinforced and justified more and more as the series progresses. I hope no one is stupid enough to watch this and actually take the themes to heart. This is poisonous
I mean, wasn't Saurons motivation starting out that he wanted to create order to make up for his past deeds as Morgoths Lieutenant? The show wasn't good, but them making the antagonist more than just pure evil isn't one of the reasons to me. I'm not saying they did a good job, but the attempt was to make him more compelling than a character that is just the bad guy because they're evil.
Trying so hard to be GOT. lol. Like why do you want to imitate an inferior piece of literature? You already have in your hands the greatest fantasy story and you still want to be like GOT. lol
Another thing on human-elf romance, it's specified in the books that this sort of stuff almost never happens, and when it does, the human, I think always a man, has to first prove himself, so to say. Elrond only let Arwen marry Aragorn when he had assured his rule over literally the entirity of humankind. And if you think about it, Guyladriel is actually a half-decent parody of Feanor. But even a character that became ash upon dying because his heart was that much on fire is less reckless than Guyladriel.
Also Aragorn doesn't become King of all of humankind. There are other kingdoms in middle earth other than Gondor and Arnor, such as Rhun and Harad, and I guess Umbar as well, I have no idea the status of Umbar after the Corsairs were driven out, but previously it was independent. The Oliphant riders at the battle of Pelenor fields were men from Harad. They're generally not thought of as much because Tolkien doesn't flesh them out at all in LotR and only vaguely fleshes out their history in the Silmarillion and Legendarium, which I think is a shame. It would also be a great opportunity for these diversity toting retards to do a series about dark people in middle earth, and have it make sense, AND flesh out on something Tolkien didn't. They could have created something pretty cool. But they didn't. Instead, they made black dwarves. No race. In the entirety of fiction. Needs Melanin less. Than Tolkien's dwarves. It serves, ZERO function to them.
The fact that we can still speak out against the evils of the Post Modern Marxists and their ilk is a good sign. Despot; you do the world a service by informing and empowering them. Best wishes.
@@blueskysummit6153 He sounds so sad, confused, completely lost. It hurts me so much every time because he sounds like a little child or a faithful dog. Doing what he was told to do and suffering for it. Just thinking of that moment and typing this makes me tear up.
The most baffling thing about the whole village battle is why they did that in the first place. Every single payoff they wanted they could have easily gotten by having the villagers do the sensible thing and hide away in the fortress. Have discount legolas trick the orks? Sure, just have him set the empty village on fire instead of crashing that tower. Have village wench initiate the first strike against the orks while having her friend die? Have them set up a trap on the path to the fortress. Have adar do some tricky thing to save random villager a? Have him do that when a burning village building collapses on them. Have flaming carts? Have them roll down that nice and narrow bridge to the fortress. Have adar discover the keyhole? Well first of all he shouldn't need to discover the keyhole, he should already know where it is. But if you want him to discover it have a spy discover it and tell adar. Have little boy sneak into the village to get foodstuff? Have him sneak into the village to get foodstuff. Have the numenorians heroically ride into the village? Have the orks set up camp inside the village while they siege the fortress. Do you absolutly want to have that tower falling down? Have it be a last desperate maneuver after the orks breaching into the fortress with the villagers trying to escape to the back of the mountain (this way you'd also get a nice reference to the two towers). There is literally no reason not to have the villagers posess more than two braincells and hide in the fortress.
Remember that Hollywood will continue with garbage like this if you watch it. Don't pay them anything and don't stay silent. Let Hollywood know - in nice language - that we will not accept their insults or their franchise destruction.
This show is telling its viewers that the Galadrial in this story develops into the character played by Cate Blanchett...the same with Elrond...and I absolutely agree with you, I could watch the Battle of Helms Deep and the whole Trilogy over and over again. This series is insulting to the people who have read the books, enjoyed the original Trilogy but most of all insulting to JRR Tolkien himself. Peter Jackson himself stated that he tried to follow the story in the books. He succeeded where this show failed miserably...excellent presentation by yourself.
@druidofscosglen2868not including Tom Bombadil was a great decision, always hated that nonsensical character... LOTR was not just a perfect adaptation, it was even better than books (even if it's 'heretical' to say so)
The whole reason that Galadriel is even around in Tolkien's LotR is because it took millennia for grief to wear her down into the character we see in Fellowship. The beginning of her character arc is that her people rebel against the angels that rule Middle Earth and basically walk out of heaven because they want revenge on Sauron's old boss. She goes along not because she agrees with that, but because she wants to make a name for herself in Middle Earth. All the Noldor go through hell and by the end of the First Age are either dead or broken in spirit, and all the leadership of the Noldor that weren't born in Middle Earth return to Valinor *except Galadriel* because she's *still* proud and headstrong. It takes until the end of the Third Age, when she's been in Middle Earth longer than the Pyramids have been around IRL, before she's questioning what she really gained from all of this (the temptation of the Ring for her is that everything she built over millennia with her ambition is crumbling, and she only need take the ring to salvage her ambition and Make Lorien Great Again). If she were any less headstrong, she'd already have gone home. So it's *entirely* believable that the Galadriel in this story develops into the character in Tolkien's LotR. Any other Galadriel would develop into that character sooner and would tap out before LotR, so in fact *only* this Galadriel is believable, or consistent with Tolkien. PJLotR doesn't engage with any of this, so the character played by Cate Blanchett is effectively a blank slate, making the question of whether RoP's Galadriel is consistent with her a moot point; practically anything could be consistent. Meanwhile, PJLotR presents us with an angsty Aragorn that's deeply conflicted about whether he can handle being king, and expects us to believe that he has the fortitude to follow the path of Tolkien's Aragorn, while this show gives us an Elendil that has the confidence we'd expect of Aragorn. Criticize RoP if you want, it certainly has a lot of flaws, but don't pretend that Jackson respected Tolkien *more*.
@@JonBrase *"So it's entirely believable that the Galadriel in this story develops into the character in Tolkien's LotR."* No. Being a child, a bad leader (when you're actually canonically already a great leader) and absolutely despicable as a person and being headstrong are two different things. But hey, it's okay. We can't all be right about things ;)
Excellent review. It's no mistake that a sane person would end up rooting for the villain. This is not due to the wrtiter's inexperience, but because Woke morality is twisted. I find it particularly disturbing when woke movies portray violence: they direct it only towards white men in disgusting ways and they also expect people to consider it funny. On the other hand no woman can be hurt, unless in a final showdown with another woman. This happens also in mainstream movies generally considered "not-woke" like the John Wick saga. Once you see it you cannot unsee it.
But in John Wick the are only three women who fight, one of which is a friend of John. The two female antagonists get treated the exact same as males in that they're quickly disposed once they go toe to toe with John
@@champ1159 it's not a reference, Part 6 anime's last portion Reflects a lot of Hollywood and visual media these days, especially his main villain with the closer he gets to achieve his goal.
My 12 yr old daughter saw Rings of power first and then the LOTR trilogy. She thanked me for introducing her to the movies. Even kids are aware how awful the pretentious wokeness in the Rings for power is.
@@TCStink3 I dont really know at this point. Im all about social deconstruction and stuff but i also hate how corporations use a surface interpretation about progressiveness but when people use the "Woke" its impossible to know if they are talking about corporations or normal people too
@@1lukarioz Woke Cult was created by corporations. Artificial ideology and fake narrative created to replace the real leftism and liberalism (and anti-globalism). Back in late '90s/early 2000s young people were fighting against the system. Then the establishment created Woke ideology. Today, young people are fanatically defending the system without even realizing it.
To be honest, you failed as a father to have let her seen Rings of Power at all. Why your daughter has access to Amazon is beyond me. Have you not been paying attention to the past 8 years? Everything is propaganda, everything is woke, and it’s all made to subvert gender roles and frankly discourage traditional families. Lord help you if your daughter has a Netflix or instagram account. She’ll have an OF and pink hair by 10th grade.
Poor Robert Paulson, what did she ever do to deserve a butchering from a psychopath? Also such a memorable scene: Elrhonda having dinner with Gimly and his wife Queen Latifa.
Wokies are the most incompetent people to ever gain power. It's the rich who were too incompetent to gain any power otherwise. It's not even a working class movement failing. 👎
@@gavinl4388 How do you know? By the way, I've never actually been all through the book (singular; Tolkien wrote it as one volume), but I love the tale all the same.
Worry not, Despot. They won't silence you. Not everyone are fools who bend over to this corporate slavery. Some of us appreciate how you give us voice and speak what we want to say (and make us laugh a lot). And we won't let you down.
@@ymca4547 Viserys' last climb to the Iron Throne was entirely an invention of the show. In fact, there's very little of HOTD that is a lifted directly. They had about as much book material as the ROP did. It's all in the quality of the writing.
The reason Hollywood is obsessed with "girl-bosses" is because they believe that's how men have been portrayed. They'll look at John Rambo or the Terminator and see men who are incredibly smart, strong, and seldom wrong. Then, they'll make female characters based on these characteristics. They can't figure out what made Sarah Conner in the original movie a powerful, well written woman. They don't understand what makes Ellen Ripley such a badass. Rambo wasn't written to make a statement about men. He's the embodiment of a power fantasy. It's badass because it embraces how ridiculous it is and makes no political statements. Want a female equivalent? Watch Kill Bill. These SJWs don't get it. They don't know how to write powerful women. Because, to them, powerful women are literally in competition with men. And that is clear as day in their writing.
I do want to mention that the first showing of Rambo was as a traumatized soldier unable to integrate back into society and being thrown away after suffering trauma. Even Rambo's story started off with a morally complex arc
Perhaps the intention of the RoP was to make evil heroic, so in this "new culture" we value evil over good, without understanding exactly why. Turn good on its side, twist and subvert it, and present evil as a more valuable alternative.
I'm deeply saddened of the role they consigned Finrod to here. Finrod in the books was an incredible story to read through, and his battle with Sauron is a master class on depicting both parties. From Sauron slowly leading Finrod to speak of Valinor, to the moment where he reveals the kinslaying that occured, breaking the Elf. Where even while in such depths of despair, he KILLS A WEREWOLF WITH HIS BEAR HANDS. Albeit, he dies afterward because of the sheer damage he took fighting a werewolf bare-handed to protect Beren. And *because* of this. He was resurrected in the Halls of Mandos, and sent back to Valinor. It's so beautifully crafted. Though Tolkien may have wanted to refine it more before its release, every moment still stands with love and passion that Tolkien put into Middle-Earth. Amazon and ROP tried to beat you over the head with. "This is good because female lead if you dislike female lead you are bad." It's so sad to see things with such beautiful storytelling be pulled back because the writers decided they can do better. Great video though! I'll be checking out more in the future
"It's so sad to see things with such beautiful storytelling be pulled back because the writers decided they can do better...." I think you're generally right, though ultimately, I'd say that where the likes of 'The Ring of Power' fails is not exactly because the creators thought they could do better, though some probably did think so and the results of that could only have been disastrous! Rather, a great story is what is left over after a writer - usually a great one - had put a great deal of work into his craft, often with a trail of slowly improving failures behind him (OK, or her, but are the pronouns really THAT important?) A great adaptation would similarly depend on that great story, and so on, with the point being to get that great story out to a receptive audience.... Generally, it takes great film-makers to craft a great adaptation, just like it generally takes great storytellers to craft a great story, but not necessarily... with hard work, a dash of talent, and maybe a little luck, even mediocre talents can create a well-loved movie or TV show that happened to be in the right place at the right time... I think a lot of film-makers, even a few woke ones, have the humility to realize this, and hope to at least do "good enough" to at least break even. That is, where the creators of a failure like 'Rings of Power' fail is, I would say, that the priorities are all wrong: they aren't trying to craft a great story or adaptation, or even just merely trying to do something "good enough" to make the minimum amount of money to pay their bills... at least, not enough are trying to do that to save a project like 'Rings of Power': these creators are a mixed lot who in various measures are instead trying to milk a cash-cow, pad a resume with something notorious in a no-press-is-bad-press kinda way, or - far, far too often - trying to indoctrinate an audience, with a story being an afterthought to the effort. It's those who are motivated by an ideology who in many ways are the worst offenders,: "Well, LotR has its fans and got great praise, but it's not fair to me, it's racist and sexist and homophobic and needs to be replaced! So what we need are representation, and strong female characters, and a take-that for all the racist, homophobic, misogynistic, white supreme terrors who like good and beautiful stuff. I deserve to be more successful than Tolkien and Jackson because I mean well, and even if I'm not better, I deserve to at least have a chance to shame everyone into accepting my inferior knock-off instead, by default virtue of it being on the Right Side of History. I think that's everything I need, right? Oh yeah, I guess I can add a story later on...." Yes, some of these think they can do better than actual one-in-a-lifetime classics like LotR, but on the whole, I think it's more like they DESERVE better, rather than can DO better... I think there's a bunch of them that seriously believe that a great deal of the success of something like Peter Jackson's 'Lord of the Rings' or the novel it was adapted from were built only on the use of a Straight White Christian Guy Club Card to get a shortcut to the top, and maybe they can do better, maybe not, but what's important is that they get their fair shot by playing trumping that "stacked deck" with a Woke Club Card instead, and at least getting "close enough" to count with the laziest, sloppiest, half-baked minimum of effort, because - hey, that's how the Straight White Christian Guy Club supposedly works, isn't it? They deserve their fair shot at that, too! It's a sort of sense of entitlement to the same success as those who "cheated" at life by being born in the Straight White Christian Guy Club, rather than the conviction alone that the woke "artists" have superior talent, that drives these failures into an instant nose-dive right from the start.... Even if these woke artists really WERE better, they would be hampered by a certainty that they don't HAVE to be better, and shouldn't have to be better, because the non-woke competition somehow have an unfair advantage over them... they are certain they deserve better, but equally certain that they don't need to try to do better, because if the playing field were "level" to their delusional standards, then they wouldn't need to try to do better, and anyway since the deck is stacked against them, the audience will just reject their work anyway because of racism, sexism, homophobia, and so on, so they might as well not even try to do better. If they succeed without trying to do any better, then it's proof to them that they really do have superior talent in spite of the best efforts of the Straight White Christian Guy Club to cheat them, and they win. If they fail without trying to do any better, then that's just proof that they were cheated, and they still win! And THAT is why these woke projects will always fail: most woke film-makers aren't even trying to do better, and don't even expect to do better, but feel entitled to success anyway. It's a rare woke film-maker who actually can and will put some actual work into their art, while at the same time fully expecting to both be better than their rivals, while still being prepared to accept the defeat if there were a genuine conspiracy to cheat them out of a well-earned success... those who can succeed, I suspect, actually do succeed, only to then get canceled for somehow being in on the supposed White Guy conspiracy, while those who can't succeed put no genuine effort into their art, and go broke, get woke, then choke, 'Rings of Power' style....
Finrod is the only elf ever called a "man-friend" (while there are many mortals called "elf-friends") and he has the bearing of a saint - he is a legend! Do not desecrate his memory, RoP.
@@axellion4573 look up the entry on tolkiengateway about Finrod: "Finrod was also called Nóm ("Wisdom") by Bëor and his people.[7] His other titles include "the Faithful", "the Friend of Men", "King of Nargothrond", "Lord of Nargothrond".[14][15] He was often called by the Eldar Edennil or Atandil, which means "Friend of Men" in Sindarin and Quenya respectively.[16] A variant for Atandil was Firindil.[17]"
So just to add to the cave troll thing. Gandalf isn't just a Wizard. The Wizards of LOTR are literally angel warriors sent from God to the mortal realm to aid them in the fight against Sauron. That's why everyone listens to and respects them in universe.
Not quite everyone. And two of them are missing, presumed dead. They are roughly Maiar, putting them around the strength of a Balrog at best, and below some of the mightiest elf lords.
@@mr.creamy7778 definitely but LOTR is also about roles. It is not Gandalfs role or even wish to be a great leader and lord. It is to help and motivate them to fight evil
I love the Lord of the Rings trilogy, one of the best trilogies ever made. The Hobbit trilogy had a great cast, but failed to capture what made the LotR trilogy so great. As for Rings of Power, it doesn't deserve having Lord of the Rings attached to it in the title. It spat all over Tolkien's lore and legacy, it stole his characters and turned them into unrecognizable, cheap imitations of their former selves. Every time I heard a line of dialogue that had been in the LotR trilogy it just felt horribly out of place, it didn't belong in the show. Also, for those who forgot, Arondir, Wannabe Legolas, uses a twig twice to stab orcs. Once while a prisoner in the trench, the second time during the orc attack on the village, and both times it looks ridiculous.
The movies are not the Lord of the Rings; they're dumb action movies made for general movie audiences. ''it stole his characters and turned them into unrecognizable, cheap imitations of their former selves.'' Ironic, that is precisely what the Peter Jackson movies do.
@@reek4062 If all you saw were "dumb action movies" then you weren't paying attention. And yes, not only do I know what a book is, I happen to have them in my possession, and have reread them a thousand times since I was ten. Jackson's trilogy was closer to the Lord of the Rings than Rings of Power is to anything written by Tolkien. What's more, Amazon is desperate to legitimize RoP by tying it in with the Jackson films that you oh so despise, which is why so many scenes are direct callbacks to those films. However, in writing Galadriel the way they did, RoP's showrunners have created a massive continuity error, which I will spell out for your clueless ass: Galadriel and Celeborn have a daughter together, Celebrian. Celebrian grows up to marry Elrond, and together they have three children: Elladan, Elrohir, and Arwen. In Tolkien's work, Celebrian was born early in the Second Age; but in RoP, Celeborn has been MIA since the conclusion of the First Age, and there has been no indication that Celebrian even exists. The showrunners deliberately excluded both characters because they didn't want their super badass girlboss feminist icon tied down with anything so mundane as a family (never mind that she's four thousand years old, functionally immortal, and that her daughter is a grown woman), and because they didn't want anything to get in the way of their Galadriel/Sauron ship. By making this choice, they have effectively written Arwen out of existence.
@@shamrockdragon7634lol this is how we know you're a fake fan if you think the PJ movies are accurate depictions of the books and were true to Tolkien lore as well. Those movies are just as inaccurate as this series
Not even sure why Warner Bros would keep filing claims against Rings of Power Videos, everyone hated the damn thing so why bother playing defense for something that's failing.
As a massive Tolkien fan, high fantasy connoisseur, and also a person of colour: I also hate this trend of woke casting with every fibre of my being. I think Le Gunn’s Earthsea is a great example of how to properly put POC people into fantasy (not that any adaptations have ever managed to cast anything but white people) but shoe-horning us into Middle Earth is not. I have a wonderful thing called ‘empathy’ and ‘imagination’ and never needed Tolkien’s characters to have my skin-tone to identify with their qualities. Tolkien was a creator of his time and upbringing, and no retroactive ‘inclusivity’ will erase the colonial past. And that is okay? I think we need to continually examine our mistakes, and our successes as a society, and this bland flattening of the world is just burying our heads in the sand. I also think what worries me about the casting of modern productions is that it A) is lazy, and removes the need for creators to invent authentically mixed race stories and B) will add to the backlash to ‘woke’ culture that I’m sure is heading our way with the right on the rise around the world. All for big companies who dont give a shit about any of us to broadcast they are being ‘progressive’. Anyway, I hope if you are reading this UA-cam comment, as a fellow fan of fantasy, you remember that this dumb interpretation of ‘woke’ culture, stems from an evil multinational company, not from the POC people you see in your everyday life. I’m scared that this ends with us, once again, losing all the equalities we have gained, just because some dead eyed executives wanted to cast the widest consumerist net. Late-stage capitalism doesn’t care about any of us, modernity is a curse and the most ironic part is that was exactly Tolkiens message.
Make no mistake, this was done on purpose. They deliberately switched the hero with the villain. They are trying to reprogram people's brains with the help of a famous movie, and as I can see, they are succeeding. This is just the beginning, as you can see in other movies. Don't be fooled by idiots who have no spirit, no backbone, no honor, no nothing.
The amount of love that went into those costumes and sets, the dedication those actors brought to the screen - many of whom believing they'd be part of something epic - BREAKS MY HEART.
@@henkhenkste6076 I'm not talking about the overall vision & the people making the big decisions, but about the person painting a little detail, the craftsman creating one drape, the video intern rendering the lighting in a scene, all of them not knowing the overall picture but being excited to be part of the next Lord Of The Rings and doing their very best. Their freedom in what they do is limited, but they trusted the briefing of the show runners in their little aspect and did their best to make that one detail great. Little did they know that the overall vision was crooked from the start.
@@luikanamithe sad part a few things you’ve listed here were as shit as the script and show itself. And actually the actors themselves at least half of them are abominations as well, they are completely horrible as characters and both as humans. Watch some of their interviews for example the actor for black Legolas. He is awful to say the least
“Breaks my heart”, they never really cared about all those things you mentioned. It was nothing but like minded people coming together to destroy a masterpiece by injecting their BS propaganda.
@@AkWar9 you clearly don't know how movies/shows are made. making such a big project includes thousands of people contributing each just a little part without knowing the big picture, trusting in whatever the crew of decision makers and show runners planned. Of course the deciding group was big and maybe equally flawed like minded, but that little artist contributing that one little part of that one fabric did their best because they probably thought they'd be part of the next amazing journey to middle earth and writing history. And when you are an actor and love Tolkien, and there's a chance you get to play a little part in a new movie project, you'll do it... and chances are you don't know any lines other than yours until release.
The funniest and most random scene was when Galadriel was angry for some reason and then rides a horse across the beach while smiling and being filmed in a photogenic slow motion. What was the point of that scene?🤣
Can we talk about how nonsensical it is that black dwarfs exist in the universe of Tolkien's works from an evolutionary and biological perspective? I feel like a lot of people forget why darker skin tones even exist and why they developed. People with darker or black skin simply have more melanin than the average European or American. Why is that? Because in the regions where people with dark or black skin originate, they have been constantly in contact with heat and the blazing sun and over many many generations and natural selection, the genetics which cause higher melanin have spread and prevailed. The purpose of an increase in melanin and darker skin is the protection from heat and sun! Back to middle earth now. What is the main characteristic for the race of dwarfs in Middle Earth? They are mineworkers! They live and work in mines and spend most of their time underground, that's their thing, for hundreds maybe thousands of years that's what this race has been doing and that's what they're famous for. That's why it makes sense for them to be small and have a tough, sturdy build because they have to navigate through small tunnels UNDERGROUND and grind through thick rocks and walls. I emphasize the word "underground" because I think we can all agree that there is not one possible place that can be more stripped of daylight and the sun than places underground. So, in what reality would there ever be a case in which a race, which is adapted to a live that takes place underground for a large majority of their time, develops to have dark skin? A species' phenotype only gets developed if there is an advantage for said species for their survival or reproduction in their environment. Having black skin as a dwarf would bring them no advantages whatsoever! Not to mention that being deprived of sunlight leads skin to fade out either way. It makes absolutely no sense. In conclusion: Representation is important and a good thing by itself but if it makes absolutely no sense world building wise it's just lazy and feels forced.
You had me until the end Representation is just a buzzword meaning white replacement and white erasure, it's supremacy plain and simple and artificial replacement
@@PodreyJenkin138 Yeah no. Supremacy for who? Using the context of OP. It is not inherently bad to have folks of a wide variety of backgrounds be represented. That in itself is not bad, when it makes logical sense. "All representation is bad" is baby talk and gives me a clue as to your emotional intellegence and your motivations.
@@Chabooki nonwhites? Usually black Americans in the context of the US Also I'm sorry but if you think representation as the radical progressives use it is in any way a mature or sane concept you can do a back flip off a high place It's a childish playground logic to reality "I need people that look like me to feel good and actually understand a story or character" How about we write characters and hire actors to play those characters and not have quotas for skin color or genitals like some autistic weirdo NOVEL CONCEPT I KNOW
Can we talk about how nonsensical it is that you felt the need to write a public discourse on why Black dwarves shouldn't exist? Sit your racist -ss down. You're embarrassing yourself.
Travel by map was never this literal and unnecessary. Seriously, this reminds me of the traveling in GoT in Season 7 and 8, where everyone just teleported around the map like it was a Team Rocket hideout instead.
I really dont understand how this man does not have more subs. I've seen several of these videos now & just the comedy gold & editing alone is worth a sub, let alone the extremely detailed analysis on each topic. You can absolutely tell how much you put into each of your videos Mr. Despot & I absolutely appreciate it, you've got my sub good sir! Thank you!
He is fun to watch, also me and my nephew literally argued on how good the show was so its nice for me to get some validation from a dude on the internet 🤣
It looks pathetic and more like a mockery of everything that we love! They understand nothing from LOTR and this woke propaganda lacks authenticity and depth in every way possible. And that rules for making a movie??? OMG it almost killed me - what a powerful way to screw everything. Peter Jackson - thank you so much for your work on our beloved trilogy!
The only character who felt like a Tolkien character was that male dwarf El seemingly befriended. He could easily fit in the movies. He has that same personality as Gimli. It’s a shame that character wasn’t used in a better show/movie.
Glad you re-uploaded. This is a magnificent analysis of ROP and Amazon's utter failure and desecration of Tolkien's work. Keep up the good work and keep shaming these woke vandals into extinction
The ROP feels like a really REALLY badly written fanfiction. And sad fact is when a short triller was released in TV me and my sister were quite excited to watch merely because the triller showed only Guyladriel and it was so edited that I didn't even had a clue how bad character she is. And then when I knew more and more info about the show I completely lost any desire to watch it so I never watch it. But I've seen enough reviews. Now when I look how the whole world and it's inhibitors were designed in ROP. It makes want to cry. That's just how bad it is for me. In LOTR I have always looked up to Galadriel. To her gracefulness. The way she carried herself and the fact that wisdom just shines through her. I cannot put in words just how much LOTR Galadriel was and is for me a role model of strong women. The Guyladriel in ROP is the type of women I want be as far as possible. She is an unrealistic role model for any girl or women. I always try to not unreasonably hate a character in movies and TV shows but here it is really hard. Imagine how bad the show was filmed when it only takes a short shots from it to make picture. I don't know about you but I can't take seriously anyone who thinks a narcissistic person who's supposed to be a leader but doesn't give slightest shit about people who follow him or her is good role model. I overall ROP is really just a bunch of people with costumes and pointy ears too large for no good reason who completely forgotten about the magic filled world that we all love and at least once dreamed about live in it.
13:37 this might actually made sense if Negrolas have gone for a rich widowed (or in some cases, divorced) noblewoman. And there are a few real life cases that come to mind. For instance, the marriage between Queen Sybilla of Jerusalem and Guy of Lusignan. Sybilla was the sister of the Leper King Baldwin IV adn had lost her first husband and on top of that had a child who briefly became Baldwin V. And contrary to what Kingdom of Heaven might tell you, Sybilla actually wanted to marry Guy against the advice of her brother and some of the top nobles. Another case involves Emma of Normandy. She had married English king Aethelred the Unready. After he died she married his Danish succesor Cnut, with whom she had a child, Harthacnut, who became King of England up to 1042. After which her son by Aethelred, Edward the Confessor became king. Outside of that, this would only make sense if Negrolas was treating Village Wench as a convenient sidepiece. Because everything else aside, she's kinda hot. Otherwise, the writers make Negrolas here come off as a simp.
“I don’t care what they told you in school, Winston Churchill was a black woman.”
Pretty they were a black fem non-binary but ok
deserves 700 likes this comment^
A lesbian transgender black woman
He was definitely a strong, female leader
😂😂 a black trans gay woman... triple shields 🛡 lol
It was really nice of Jeff Bezos to make sure the Hobbit Trilogy would not be remembered as the worst live action Tolkien media.
PJ's twin towers still exists
@@reek4062Ok
@@reek4062nice bait
@reek5062 did you say twin towers? 🎣
Say what you want about the Hobbit Trilogy but it's a masterpiece compared to everything Hollywood has pumped out in the last 20 Years.
Arrows blowing by Elrons hair is such an unbelievably badass opening for the movie. Cripes! Right off the bat, this movie tells you that you're in for some serious shit.
And then Isildur cuts the Ring from Sauron's hand.
Utter stupidity if you know anything about bows and arrows or medieval warfare. The battle scenes in the Lord of the Ring trilogy ruined the movie for me. I don't hate it, I just can't take it seriously.
In my country we had many interesting battle during the medieval, probably more than anyone else in Europe because we fought against the most powerful armies, we fought against both Roman Empire, we fought against the german tribes and The Holy Roman Empire, we fought against the Mongol and the Turk and all of our major battle is really interesting. I noticed people are not able to produce more intersting stuff than real life itself. This is the situation both with Tolkien and Jackson too.
Of course I understand in the case of the books the catholic theme is the point, not the fantasy battles.
Which is good because the battles are suck.
@@Zodroo_Tintas a historian, I get picking apart battles. Basically every depiction of warfare from the past is BS. But the movies are so insanely good. It’s just peak cinema. Everything about it is great. Even the dumb parts of battles were used to bolster the fantasy spectacle. Horses also don’t charge spear lines, but you can’t catch me with dry eyes during the ride of the rohiram. Impossible scene, no basis in warfare or history. One of the best scenes in cinema.
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@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 No. The movies degrade the characters and butcher the tone of the books
In memory of Robert Paulson, murdered in cold blood in his own cave on a Friday night by a pointy-eared Karen. Rest in peace, sweet troll, knowing you shall live on in our hearts.
REST IN PEACE 😢😢😭😭
His name was Robert Paulson
(In unison with ^) His name was Robert Paulson.
Never forget Robert Paulson, murdered by a psychopath wearing chainmail in the coldest place on earth 😢
His name was Robert Paulson
RIP Robert Paulson. Born a free troll, died a free troll.
I love you for doing this!!! Amazing comment! You F$&#$iG rock!!!
Gone but not forgotten. Robert Paulson forever
Cut down in his prime while defending his home from a violent bloodthirsty warlord lusting after power and vengeance. RIP King.
HER NAME IS ROBERT PULSON!!
First rule of troll club... you never talk about troll club.
"They have a cave troll." That one line uttered by Boromir (the great Sean Bean) captures SO much feeling -- he's scared, he's feeling helpless, he's grim and resigned. Fantastic performance in such a short line. Another of the best lines by Boromir: "It is a strange fate that we should suffer so much fear and doubt over so small a thing. Such a little thing." He's confused, intrigued, strangely drawn to this "small thing", and hints at its danger and potential control over him. Another fantastic moment. The real LotR was brilliant!
Another great sin by the Academy was not granting him the Oscar for that role.
His tone for that line always made me feel like he's thinking "Well, shit." Like, if somebody had been dumb enough to say "it can't get any worse", you could hear the troll roar, have Sean Bean say that line, and you wouldn't need to change a single inflection.
I mean I think Boromir was rather annoyed after all he's fought cave trolls or mountain trolls before during Osgiliath when Mordor attacked.
Yep. Fantastic acting from bean there. I absolutely love the way he says that line. Almost defeated akready
Reading those lines gave me goose bumps. 👌
Tolkien described the elves stringing their bows with their own hair. It’s pretty obvious that he envisioned them as having long strong beautiful hair.
"But most it was their wont to sail in their swift ships upon the waters of the Bay of Elvenhome, or to walk in the waves upon the shore with their long hair gleaming like foam in the light beyond the hill."
Amazon: Sooooo buzzcut, yeah?
Which also makes Gimili’s ask of Galadriel even more bold and why this rough, sturdy, strong dwarf was so meek to ask for a couple strands of her hair in The Fellowship of the Ring.
It gets worse when you realize they gave *everyone* short hair because a certain single cast member could not grow long hair naturally. Because yes, putting a black wig on him was too much effort.
@@willb1405this criticism doesn’t stand, as you know, scissors exist?
It’s not like every single elf must have long hair. I don’t remember any rule prohibiting elves from cutting their hair
@kingdelledroghe1957 Managed to type all that with Amazon filling you to the balls, eh? Impressive.
I'll add another plothole that you might have missed.
In lore, Numenor does not have any cavalry. This isn't because they didn't like the practice, it's because there are no warhorses that could physically bear the weight of a fully armored Numenorean. Numenoreans were quite literally superhumans. The average Numenorean was 2+ meters and 100+ kg. At that weight, a horse would only be able to maintain a rapid tempo for just a short while, never mind the continuous charge that we see in the show.
I think they might have been able to ride the Maeras but those are pretty unique creatures
Also, if they're an island nation, what use would they really have for cavalry? You'd think they'd prioritize their navy and marines over anything else
@@darthdaddy3071They actually prioritized their navy to the point it was the most advanced ship on middle earth. Don't believe me, look for "numenorean ship meme" and you'll see.
2+ meters and 100+ kg is still very human and warhorses can absolutely bear that lol. Also it makes a lot of sense for a cinematic adaptation to depict almost human characters as humans cause, you know, actors are human.
Wow. I just found out I'm a superhuman! Who would've guessed? Cause I suppose I don't stand out much among all the other superhumans around here.
I had always wanted a chance to see Gil-Galad depicted on screen, obviously because he is one of the greatest elves to ever live. If anyone reading does not know much about Gil-Galad; He was the last high king of the Noldor, the one who entered combat against Sauron himself with only his mortal counterpart Elendil as backup, founder of Lindon, the first to be suspicious of Annatar, the one to whom Celebrimbor entrusted TWO of the elven great rings... and he was reduced to a dismissive man-Karen. That I cannot forgive.
People following this narrative take the most powerful, successful, talented and noteworthy men of REAL LIFE history and turn them into crying babies.
It's no surprise that if they would have such little respect for the achievements, skills and struggles of real history's finest, they would have no respect for the fictional either.
Omg this. Gil-galad is one of my favourite character from the Lengendarium. I’ve always loathed the Hobbit movies for giving some dwarves who had little to no line in the book more screen time than the great High King of Noldor, fucks sake! Now that he’s depicted by this shitshow as a fugly superfluous impression of a king. I can’t even.
@@alexw1698 overall the feel of the show doesn't feel lotr, it feels like a high budget disney fantasy film imo
The writers of Rings of Power kept the names, and ditched the rest. Utterly conceited and contemptible.
@@alexw1698 blame Peter Jackson. He ignored Gil-Galad in his failed attempt to adapt the Lord of the Rings.
Why does Galadriel have a *Feanorian star* on her armour? Someone legtimately posed that question to the showrunners I think it was at comic con and they could not answer it. She hated Feanor with a burning passion because he slaughtered her Teleri relatives and even before that. She would not have dreamed of wearing his family emblem.
Why was there random ship full of humans in the Sundering Seas so close to Valinor when humans were specifically forbidden from attempting to sail there? Why was Elendil able to pick up Galadriel and Halbrand which would have involved him sailing West and potentially being in volation of the ban himself.
Why did Halbrand seemingly not know about Numenor, when the people from the Southlands not only knew about it, but knew the direction of an abandoned Numenorian settlement?
It's the same with Halbrand/Sauron having his hands all over the 3 Elven Rings which in the books it was stated several times emphatically that Sauron never touched or sullied them and likely never even saw them being crafted in his absence. This was an important aspect with the Rings of Power. The Nine and Seven were more controlled by Sauron due to his presence in their making and his capture of them. This is why even without the One Ring, Sauron was able to control the Nazgul and apparently any mortal possessing one of the seven would fade away according to Gandalf but the 3 were different. While bound to the fate of the One Ring due to the magic and knowledge of their making, they could be used during the Third Age without Sauron able to control them or even discover them when he had gathered much of his strength at the end of the age. But ROP had an immortal being pawing the raw materials and tools in their making, in a world where powerful beings can infuse their power and will into things and places for good or evil. It shows that the showrunners really don't understand the source material.
RoP Galadriel is just a female Feanor with everything that made Feanor interesting and multidimensional tossed out (and still somehow intended as a hero rather than a tragic villain). It's not intentional, it's just that modern "strong female character" isn't much different in terms of personality than the prideful, arrogant, angry (and dare I say "toxic") male archetype that usually either gets taken down several pegs or falls to villainy and faces a justly tragic end (neither of which ever happens to the female protags)
100% unintentionally, the Feanorian star is incredibly accurate
@@RoninDave Yes, precisely. Sauron didn't touch the 3: they were made by Celebrimbor without his knowledge. Which also means they weren;t corrupted and by turn didn't have the same corrupting influence as the ones Sauron had touched.
That's important because not only did Galadriel have one of the Elven Rings, Gandalf also had one: it was given to him by Cirdan the shipwright. In the RIngs of Power timeline, those are now corrupted and Galadriel and Gandalf can't use them or else Sauron will be able to control or corrupt them.
@@BroadwayRonMexico Agree with you 100%. I actually made a meme showing that she espouses most of the traits of toxic masculinity. Modern screenwriters seem to think if you give a female that traits of toxic masculinity they somehow become good and admirable.
Also, yes the Feanorian star is accurate: at one point she threatens to murder Elendil over a boat. Exactly like Feanor.
@@englishlady9797 Even Feanor had better reasons for what he did. He didn't start out wanting to commit the First Kinslayins. He wanted to avenge his father and get the Simarils back but the Teleri would not give him the ships he needed so he seized them which led to violence. Galadriel wanted to get back to Middle Earth because of a vague notion that Sauron might be there based on the words of a questionable character who (gasp!) turned out to be Sauron. Elendil had saved her and she was willing to murder him.
And you're right about the giving toxic masculinity traits to female characters. It begs the question was it really about disliking those traits or wanting them for themselves for a sense of empowerment. They don't realize men with those traits aren't well liked either in fiction or real life.
I never really considered it before you pointed it out, but trolls in Middle-earth are sentient. The ones in The Hobbit talk and hold conversations with one another. The whole framing of the cave troll in Fellowship is to show that it's a fully sentient being having been enslaved and tortured, until it's been mentally reduced to little more than an attack dog. That's why its final moments are framed with some sympathy.
The only reason the troll in Rings of Power doesn't talk is because it's a reference to Fellowship without the necessary framing to establish why we should see it as an animal.
I remember one of the first times I watched Two Towers when Sam, Frodo and Gollum are at the Black Gate trying to get in. When the human army approaches, the gate is opened to let them in and the sweeping shot of the gate shows several trolls literally chained to the gate mechanism which they are made to turn in order to open the gates. It was pretty clear to me then that the trolls are an enslaved race.
Yup. Even Shadow of War, as much as it threw canon away, had more respect for the trolls, giving them all names and personalities just like it die the orcs.
Tolkien makes you feel that trolls are somewhat stupid and if they just had some good role models they might turn over a new leaf. I'm not sure if he was going for that but it's what he does.
Yes, the cave troll was tortured. But that's not why it doesn't talk. It doesn't talk because it's a baby. They talk about it in one of the behind the scenes. You can also compare it's size to that of the three adult cave trolls in the first Hobbit movie.
@@rebeccavaughn8897Oh geez, I didn't know that; now I feel REALLY bad for the poor thing in FOTR!
I love that Hollywood writers are so ignorant to the message they're sending.
"A woman must act like a dude to have any worth."
Yea seriously, I saw a woman who was a woman like a gadriel during an accident that happened to someone on the road.
I was helping the guy, there was chaos, and women around due to movie influence where screaming or trying to command other man to do this and that which was impossible given the situation.
Then a woman came out of her suv, very elegant, spoke very few word, and gave accurate assessment of what should the other man do to help the guy who had accident, and she also did what she could do,
Didn't try to do the man's job
You also missed the fact that they push this:
"All men have to cry and act like soft children to have any worth"
And
"If a man acts masculine then he's worth nothing"
@@umariqbal1031 Best part of all tho, once a man acts like it he will NEVER get a woman himself because he, ironically, is too feminine lmfao
It’s purposeful, surgical.
I hate the term girl boss. It's fucking awful!
While in the military, someone commented "(rings of power) Galadriel is exactly the kind of leader that would get fragged." And they're right. She is the anti-leader in this show, and is a laundry list of everything a soldier would hate to follow.
Oh no, the enemy shot our leader in the back!!!
Anyways...
Well they did show that she was a horrible leader in the show, her man protested against her 20 mins in
@@dag1704hahahaha. “Platoon, our leader has fallen. Let’s just bury her under the latrine pit. Move on.”
She did get her team killed, still she killed the ice troll in under 10 seconds. Something she later braggs about and shows no remorse over losing her comrades.
It's very very very poorly written, it is a shame that Tolkiens name is associated with this "TV series". They could have simply created their own IP, then Tolkien fans wouldn't have cared or known about this sewage.
@@ilovepeoplebro yeah, but Tolkien's Galadriel was not like that, was quite the oposite, she was an admired, feared figure, a God-like being, that's why this show is so wrong.
I still cannot live with the fact that Guyladriel murdered Robert Palson and showed not any emotion. He is the true hero of the story.
Justice for Robert Palson.
Bob had b*tch t*ts
His name is Robert Paulson, His name is Robert Paulson, His name is Robert Paulson! ;D Haha
How dare you misgender she/her??
+ how could anyone Like ‘Guy ladriel ‘ ,,,
The last words of a dying Boromir in Fellowship sums up what redemption, sacrifice, and character growth are all about: (To Aragorn) "I would have followed you, my brother, ... my captain, ... my king." FRIGGIN EPIC!!! Its amazing that in Fellowship, there are so many incredible line/scenes/moments. Does this disaster of an Amazon show have ONE defining / eternal moment or memory? So much Mary Sue, so little passion/growth/story arc.
Sacrifice and responsibility are concepts the narcissistic left does not understand.
Are you saying Galadriel riding her horse in slow motion whilst looking like a field mouse on speed wasn’t epic ?? 😂
Alas, it lacks the dwarf-throwing jokes of Peter Jackson’s works.
It's definitely the complete bollockry of the twat explaining why rocks sink and a ship floats. That was epic in its stupidity! Or Galadriel diving into the middle of the goddam ocean to swim 3000 odd miles back. I imagine she did backstroke for a bit of it at least to conserve energy, at least for the first mile or so before she was overwhelmed by 40ft waves and drowned. That is genius in its idiocy! (She should've just used the eagles (the giant mythical creatures, not the band)).
@@F00kbluepillwell, it was certainly something 😆
the fact Galadriel and Sauron never actually had a relationship in the books is hilarious. This whole thing (like most franchises now) are just feminist fan fiction.
Fan fiction sounds accurate.
You can't even call it fan fiction as the writers of RoP are clearly not fans of the brilliant works of JRR Tolkien
Ya but this review is of same quality. The video maker clearly doesn’t know what he is talking about.
@@gavinl4388obviously does
@@smk_009 *Word!*
One of the significant and often overlooked sins of this abomination is short-haired elves. It physically hurts my eyes.
In fantasy in general, "contemporary" looks and hairstyles create a terrible effect and spoil the style, and unfortunately, they are becoming more and more common.
Men in fantasy should either have long hair or be bald.
Speaking of which, there was a film that came out recently based on the ancient Hindu epic “Ramayana”. It’s called “Adipurush” and was heavily panned in India because of its poor handling of the source material (which is a religious text btw, and the hero Rama is worshipped as a god) and atrocious vfx.
One criticism that was raised was that none of the characters look right, especially the antagonist- the evil demon king Ravana (called Lankesh in the film). Ravana in the epic is an upper caste demon who wears a heavy moustache and traditional long hair. In the film, the character has a full beard and a fade, which resulted in immense backlash. His only good look in the film is when he disguises as a mendicant in order to kidnap Rama’s wife Sita.
During the 'hippy crisis' of the 60s the US government commissioned a historical study which found that historically, men have worn their hair long for 90% of history.
@@DespotofAntrim
The appearance of the characters in this act of spitting in the face of the fantasy genre is doubly painful for me, because I read Tolkien's works (also The Silmarillion and all kinds of supplements / Unfinished Tales etc), quite thoroughly and with great pleasure. Someone whose ideas about this world and characters were shaped by book descriptions and phenomenal illustrations by Alan Lee and Ted Nasmith will feel especially strongly such a terrible interpretation of the presented world (especially that Jackson's LoTR showed that you can also make a film that is visually faithful to the spirit of these descriptions and classic illustrations ...).
@@aericabison23 Man I feel bad that they did that to the epic Ramayana. In my high school religious education back 17 years ago this was one of my favourite stories. It brought a pang of nostalgia until I read the rest of the comment. I kind of want to watch the advert because this modern era of movies has done nothing but turn me into a glutton for pain.
The "elves" in this show are just pointy-eared humans. They bear no resemblance to Tolkien's elves.
Peter Jackson omitted and revised a lot of things from the books. But you can tell he still did it with a level of care and respect. Despite what Christopher Tolkien said.
The same cannot be said on the rings of power.
@adamjames2332 you'd prefer them to adapt the multiple pages spent on characters talking things out knowing that the world was at the risk of being conquered, maybe they should've made the scene with the ents 30 minutes long to match tolkiens multiple pages spent on talking in detail about their days worth of negotiation with the fellowship, if you wanna consume media that goes into world building and lore go read a book and stop bashing movies for going for the more visually entretaining part of the story, it's called Tele VISION for a reason.
@adamjames2332
Agree, but I don't think anyone could have adapted ROTK better. That's the last arc and it's all about claiming Middle-Earth's freedom.
@adamjames2332 Movies are not books. Books are not movies.
@adamjames2332 he hated CGI? Was he psychic? Tolkien himself wrote the Battles of Helm's Deep and Pelennor Fields. The difference is Jackson ended Pelonnor Fields sooner with the Army of the Dead whereas the battle went on for hours in the book.
@Posstulio no it wasn't "extremely" disrespectful as the overall course of the story was not changed. The Battle of Pelennor Fields in both book and film ends in victory for the good guys. What you are doing is nitpicking an unimportant detail that doesn't change the course of the story or the themes of his work UNLIKE what ROP repeatedly did.
I have had to upload a reedited version of this video because the original video received many copyright claims by Warner Bros., claims which violated fair use. When I edited out claimed clips from my video, they would simply find a new clip to base their copyright claim on. I hope you enjoy the video and thank you for watching.
That's just what they do. Abuse systems. I'll watch it again
What are you doing next? Spideyverse was c*** and they're piling onto the reviewers who say so, so that one will stir up some good ol' controversy. The Flash is actually quite good, but those same reviewers are pumping out what looks mostly like a lot of bad-faith reviews because, I suppose, it's click season. 🤔
Flash is just member berries..
@@saschaberger3212 Thanks!
@@Melvin-Deeply I am working on a video essay about female characters.
it baffles me ppl defend this show by saying "you had high expectations bcuz of peter jackson trilogy, you hate it bcuz its not a peter jackson 'fantasy', its a tv show it wont be a movie quality experience".... like. this show has 10x bigget budget, has 20 years experience of existing peter jackson trilogy so just take inspiration in that trilogy, better technology, bigger fanbase, MORE actors to cast.
I had low expectations because of the PJ trilogies.
@@reek4062 Thank you! I'm glad I'm not the only one who realizes that the Jackson films *aren't* all that. Yes, the locales are spectacular, the music is stirring (gorgeous in places), the production values are first rate, and a good number of the cast are well-chosen.
But that's all surface. The substance leaves so much to be desired.
Have you ever heard the 1981 BBC Radio series? Now, that's good stuff!
Yeah, people had high expectations. If you don't want to be measured by whether you can fill someone's shoes, don't put them on.
@@sarahb.7175 I'd say tell that to Jackson anyway.
@@MaskedMan66 Sorry for the late reaction. The Jackson films are like a golden, rotten sphere. They are beautiful on the outside: the score, sets, miniatures, costumes, paintings are all excellent. The casting and performances are good as well. But they are hollow and rotten on the inside: the writing is bad, because they constantly ignored or outright contradicted the book.
I don't listen to radio, so I haven't listened to the BBC radio series. However, recently I have seen the Bakshi film (twice), and I really liked it. It's flawed and unfinished in several ways, but it's also sincere and relatively faithful to the book.
Disa not having a beard, and the male elves (majority of them) not having long hair made my heart cry.
For real
long hair is for women
Agreed! In the trilogy, Elves were obviously Elves! In this crap series... Humans and Elves look pretty much the same...
The showrunners didn't care about staying true to the source material all that much; if at all.
@@danhutchins3237They don't want elves to be special, or else it will be racist for they are white and majestic.
It's not a surprise it's so bad. When the makers come out and publicly declare that the source material and its author are trash then you know that what they produce will be the exact opposite of what Tolkien did. Just one minor point: Sauron sought dominion, not the extermination of men. Great video.
More effort went into shilling this shit than actually making a good show.
They did? Wow.
Well, Tolkien wasn't perfect and it shows in his stories.
@@sumanadasawijayapala5372no one is perfect, but his stories are close to perfection
@@rideroftheweek Yeah that Tom Bombadil bit was exquisite wasn't it. Boggles the mind why PJ didn't include it in the movies.
Guyladriel makes Rey Skywalker look like a deep character with realistic flaws.
Lmao
Do you know why a lightsaber glows Rey?
It's because the plasma always looks down Rey... While a blaster looks up.
@@The13thRonin its like in "space balls" movie thing 😂
penny for the guy!
Name one _Star Wars_ character who can be described as "a deep character with realistic flaws."
The irony is, that when I recently re-read Lord of the Rings I realised it was Galadriel who was the single most important person to the success of the fellowship, other than the fellowship themselves.
She does it subtlely.
Important, certainly, but how do you figure "most important?"
True. No man exhibits nearly as much traits of "toxic masculinity" as "strong female characters". 👍
Too fucking true
daymmm...
I am guilty of that guys wouldn’t feed me or just share their weed with me unless I sucked dick. I receive money so I do the same if they wanna smoke with me you gotta eat it from the back before and after
It’s all about blurring the lines between the genders.
😂
The writers should be acknowledged for the masterpiece of a show.
Who else could make the evil Sauron and orcs into the good guys, whilst depicting the elves and heroes as villains.
Yup. I felt it when Adar came for one wounded orc, treated him with respect, mercy killed him, and then he and his orcs grieved. Adar has more love and respect for his orcs than Guyladriel for her soldiers, or for the humans she came to save. Also, she took the villager's child with her, without looking for the mom first...
When your real life ideology is as evil and disgusting as the writers you tend to get confused trying to write good characters.
the true definition of inclusion
That's what these people are doing in real life, also. It's not on accident. They know exactly what they're doing and they're doing it on purpose. They want to ruin everything any of us felt near and dear; anything that is good and wholesome. It's part of their Marxist worldview. I'm sure they think Tolkien is an outdated, racist, misogynistic homophobe whose work should be castrated, gutted, and destroyed. Why else would anyone want to base a movie or show on source material that they absolutely HATE? Fortunately, a lot of people are beginning to wake up to this insidious plot.
It's not like it's secret, they openly talk about it but usually in euphemisms... "Oh, sure I think Lord of the Rings is an interesting universe, but I find many parts of it PROBLEMATIC. I think it needs to be UPDATED for our CURRENT SOCIETY." In other words, if they were honest, they would say, "I hate this famous story and I want to destroy it and eternally ruin it for everyone who ever liked it. We can't usher in our new utopia if stories like this are still around."
That shot of Sauron standing before his orcs was even shot as heroic with the light behind him and he standing before them imposing and strong.
Its worth noting that sam calls frodo "mr frodo" not simply because Sam is of a lower status. Frodo litterally pays Sam. Sam's his gardener, one Frodo greatly respects, but despite their loyalty and friendship for eachother one is the servant and the other the master. That is the role they carry to each other and emulate.
There is a level of respect there for sure, but you could not pay for the level of loyalty Sam has
@@pestilentsleeper9152 the poiint is that its not simply social status. Their relationship was based on like a knight squire one if i recall and its important to note sam has reason to elevate frodo specificallly
also frodo is like 80 in the books
@@edouardlorge4059 If i remember correctly he was 33 yo when we first meet him and 50 yo when he left Shire. Hobbits have a longer lifespan than humans, about 100 yo, though he was still considered as what we'd call a young adult in hobbit society
oh i never knew that. i always found it a bit odd that he called him “mr frodo”
Elronds intro in LOTR is one of the most badass scenes in the trilogy. Him leading the vanguard of men and elves, stone faced and collected while arrows are whizzing by his face. Thats who his character is. A stoic and fearsome leader. Not this little sensitive twink conjured up in a writers room
The thing is, LOTR Elrond was strong AND sensitive, you could feel the tenderness in his scenes with Arwen and could genuinely see him as the worried father that he is. Simply an amazing portrayal.
@@aurodita10 Woke shits absolutely hate and despise proper father figures.
@@aurodita10 But not a twink with Matt Smith hair.
LOTR explores many themes that are antithetical to the modern culture.
Boromir's sacrifice to protect what he belived would be the ultimate weapon of Gondor in his hand after realizing how wrong he was and accepting that he wasn't the big hero
Aragorn's acceptance of the responsibilities inherent in his birthright by taking up the sword of his ancestor
Samwise carrying Frodo when he falls under the weight of the ultimate evil and temptation because all he wanted to do was get himself and his friend home safe so he could live a simple life
Merry and Pippin teaming up with a literal forest to take down the evil forces of the industrial revolution
Gandalf returning to lead the Rohirrim to the relief of Helms Deep
King Theoden cleaving to his honor and riding to the defense of Gondor despite just coming out of a desperate fight and Gondor abandoning them, then ultimately giving his life at the head of his army
Aragorn and the remaining army of the West standing at the Black Gate not knowing if Frodo was even going to succeed but still being willing to give their lives to give him time
Plus that Theoden scene never fails to get to me:
"The beacons are lit! Gondor calls for aid!"
Then there's that beat where you think he could be like nah fuck Gondor let them die
But then it comes: "And Rohan shall answer!"
Cue the epic music
That last bit is not from the books.
Youve been watching the films to much. stick to the source material. most of what you wrote didn't happen.
@@rickb.4168 doesn't matter, his point stands. The themes that made the first lotr movies exciting and good are antithetical to post-2012 modern society.
@@rickb.4168 That's not his point. It's to do with the themes within the films. Most of which came from Tolkien and a few of which came from the writers.
So modern culture is actually evil?
This review is honestly more entertaining than the entire rings of power series, I absolutely love it.
Ikr😂😂
The only silver lining for the likes of Rings, Wheel of Time, Obi-Wan, Halo, etc
I've watched it twice and shared it. it's hilarious 😅
It sucks. The reviewer clearly hasn’t read the books and doesn’t even know the story that he is commenting on. The reviewer is just like the woke, making up his own story and claiming it’s lotr
I laughed/groaned when the great Elven lords rocked up at Moria like two boys asking if their mate can come out to play, instead of arriving with an impressive retinue at a diplomatically agreed time. Also, Dwarves spend most of their time underground. Why would any be black?
I watched the first episode than quit. Couldn't see any more. I'm serious...I just couldn't. I'm a screenwriter myself, producer and I'm on a school to improve my skills here in Brazil. I'm not staying in the area, but if I would ever be successful I would rather let my work die unnoticed than put it in the hands of Disney or people like those. This is blasphemy. It's like whipping a dog's ass with someone's life's work. Disrespect in the utmost level.
18:20 “This show wants you to think the slaughter of the troll as a great victory in the face of an attacking villain. But it isn’t. It’s a murder of a peaceful creature in it’s own home” 🤣🤣
Peaceful? You don't know trolls!
@MaskedMan66 dude was inside his fortress minding his business, only yo get jumped by a narcissist, sociopath elf
@@mathew6116 He was jumped by her rubbish "forces" first, but that doesn't mean he's not a rotten creature., like all trolls in Middle-earth. Or at least, most versions of Middle-earth.
that shows how this guy doesn't know how Tolkien's world works, be it by ignorance or bad faith.
@@julienamand4472 Word!
I lost it with “Negrolas” bro I literally blew sprite out my nose.
BWHAHA
+1
And you set me off laughing again.
LMAO!
😅😅😅😅
Arwen was a descendant of Beren and Luthien and therefore was partly human, the line of those halv-elves could decide to become mortal and living a human life. This is why we see Arwen being "sick" in the movies. She died a year after Aragorns death from a broken heart (123 years after the marriage), but she wouldn't have lived for eternity anyways due to her decision.
The lineage of Aragon also goes way back to Beren and Luthien. The union between elves and humans works almost like full circle in this case. Because from Beren and Luthien was born the greatest of the human race, and at the time of the lord of the rings story human's strenght was fading. Arwen's and Aragon union "fixed" that.
Rings of Power having a elf human romance is too fucking cheap, it just shows how the writers understand nothing about Tolkien.
Part of what makes Aragorn and Arwen's story so fascinating is the whole conflict about her being immortal and him not being so. In the books---specifically the end of Appendix A in "The Return if the King"---Elrond compares a twenty-year-old Aragorn to a yearling shoot next to Arwen's "birch of many summers". So there's already an age-difference issue, even though both Aragorn and Arwen are adults. And if they marry, and Arwen chooses to forsake her immortality, they will both die. But Arwen is willing to take that chance if it means she can have Aragorn's love, and even though he loves her, he is willing to let her sail West so that she won't have endure the pain of widowhood.
Casual treatment of Elf-Human relationships really hurts the issue more than helps.
@@dimasgirl2749 Technically she didn't forsake immortality to be with Aragorn, she simply knew that his death would have broken her heart, thus killing her. That's why in the LOTR when it's shown Arwen destiny if she choose to be with Aragorn they show him dying of old age and she is still young looking by his side to mourn him.
I don't quite understand the elven immortality, but it doesn't have specifically to do with whose dick was riden and what womb spat someone out.
Elrond and Elrohir were half elven brothers from the same breeding couple, and Tolkien wrote Elrond chose immortality, and the other chose to die as a human.
it's sort of a gift from somw level of gods you can earn or ne granted at birth or denounce.
@@codinghusky5196 Correction, is Elrond and Elros.
I loved how you correlated names with the amount of respect you had for the characters, giving the stereotypes and caricatures an equally cringy name while giving the underrated characters or creatures the acknowledgment they deserved.
Hence the reason I absolutely lost it at Robert Paulson 😂
"Negrolas" 😭🤣
The anti-lord of the rings... So, I suppose Melkor won, in some form. A corruption of Tolkien's masterpiece. A corruption of Eru Illuvitar's will and music. That's what the Rings of Power is, symbolically. It is, at its very core, evil. A corruption of something good and beautiful. And _THAT_ is the greatest and most terrible tragedy of this entire situation.
@Posstulio
For what? What's "Jackson's"?
Sorry, I genuinely don't know what you're talking about.
@Posstulio
Ah, sorry about that. I don’t keep up with the names of the directors and I've kinda given up on movies and tv lately. Haven't heard the news about that on UA-cam either, it might have just slipped by me while I was scrolling through or something.
But, yeah, what I said here applies there too. Melkor wins, Tolkien's work is currupted, Eru Illuvitar's music is poisoned with Melkor's discordant evil, and the fans suffer because of it.
@N7_Jedi Peter Jackson constantly showed contempt to the book.
Jeff Bezos is Melkor/Morgoth and Jennifer Salke is Ungoliant
The LOTR trilogy was quite possibly a once in a lifetime achievement for P. J. Looking back, it was so good I even forgave all the changes P. J. made to the original story (Not Elrond was in command of the Elven armies, but Gil-Galad, not Arwen rode before Frodo at Imladris, but Glorfindel, the shortening of the story, Saruman was killed in the Shire etc.). The dedication of the crew was astonishing, they even built some parts of Tolkien's world for real (the Shire for ex.). Despite all this (the actors, the extras, the sets, the makeup, the superb costume designs), somehow the LOTR trilogy cost less for roughly the same amount of playtime than this Rings of Power sh*t.
He doesn't need your forgiveness.
@@kinkkong28 But he has it nonetheless
Most changes are very understandable. Elrond leading the army gives a quick introduction and summary of his character. Same for Arwen, and its understandable why they didn't want to introduce another Elven character. While the scouring of the shire fits very well thematically in the book, it doesn't mesh well with the typical 3 act structure of a movie, especially one already infamous for its drawn out endings.
I wouldn't say that Elrond was depicted as the commander of the whole elven army, Gil-galad was the supreme leader ad he is shown in the introduction while he fights with his spear Aeglos. I always seen Elrond there as a sort of liutenant or something. The elven army was huge, you cannot reasonably direct such a large force all by yourself, you need some kind of lesser officers to assist you. Such was the role of Elrond during the battle, IMHO.
As for Arwen rescuing Frodo, i think that was done for "cinematic flluidity", to say so: introducing Glorfindel would have meant adding a character that would had been there just for a few scenes, without appearing again enough to justify its introduction in the first place. It would have been too dispersive for the viewer, that's the same reason they have completely omitted the character of Tom Bombadil. Viceversa, Arwen was not a character that could be omitted, since she's so connected to Aragorn, one of the main characters, and it fitted well to put her in place of Glorfindel, to add needed screen time for her character and impress her more in the viewer mind.
A similar point can be made for Saruman being killed in the Shire, except in this case the change is not in regards of a character, but of a piece of plot: the main story had ended, the Ring was destroyed, Sauron was defeated and peace restored in Middle-Earth. Imagine watching the movie for the first time and reaching the point of Aragorns coronation, breathing a sigh of relief after all you have seen in the three movies of the trilogy and then BAM, there is still Saruman to be dealt with. Not very fitting in a movie, isn't it?
@@GeraltofRivia22 Removing the Scouring of the Shire was an abomination. It made Frodo and company's return home utterly pointless. The avenging of the evil done by Saruman was, as Gandalf told the hobbits, "what you have been trained for."
I've gotten many hours of entertainment from youtubers shitting on this series. So thank you Jeff and ROP
What a sad existence that must be lol
@@jessegiroux6521 Not when the series sucks lol
@@Visualstuffidlk God the delusion is incessant
@@jessegiroux6521
Guys get in here!
We found the only fan of RoP
Its an endangered species
@@jessegiroux6521One of the worst TV series ever based on one of the best series of novels ever. By the way, looks like your (Woke?) sensibilities just got tweaked. LOL!
The Rings may be boring, but your review is hilarious! Thank you for saving me hours of wasted time!
7:10 This is because modern day SJW or progressive writers are villains. Every villain is just a weak broken person who never fit in, and then grew up seeking revenge until they got in a position to enact that revenge. The writers are all the people who didn’t fit in and so desperately wanted to, but without having to do the work. Now they are in a job where they can “enact their revenge” by writing fan fiction where they get even. They write the hero characters as themselves, which, unfortunately, carries all the dark and villainous qualities.
The saddest thing about this show is that Galadriel(the Tolkien character not Amazon's abomination) is actually an incredibly interesting character with a story that was completely unexplored by any of the movies. She is a legitimately 'strong female character', not a Mary Sue, and it would have actually been awesome to have a LotR show based around her and her story. Going back to her rise to prominence in Elven society to the point where she became one of the recipients of the 3 Elven rings and of course her lordship over her kingdom in Lothlorien. With other actions like the purging of the Necromancer from Dol Guldur which Galadriel partook in along with other prominent characters. But no, instead of that interesting story that is actually in Tolkien's works we got Amazon's atrocity that ruined Galadriel for good and destroyed any chance of actually seeing her, or any of the other interesting characters in Tolkien's works outside the trilogy.
I mean, without making any judgement on the show, good or bad, it takes place thousands of years prior to what you're talking about. So perhaps she changed as a result of her experiences.
I will be honest, I read the Hobbit and LOTR, plus the Silmarilon (pretty sure I spelled that wrong) and a couple of the histories, can't recall the titles. So perhaps there are things written about Galadriel during that period that I've not read.
@@snerdterguson You do realize that Galadriel was around since the first age, right...? That means that by the time the second age begun: with Numenor and all that, Galadriel was already thousands of years old at that point. So no, the show doesn't take place thousands of years prior to what I was talking about, I was talking about her life as a whole which both precedes and succeeds Numenor(its rise and its fall). Speaking of time lines, the show doesn't even follow Tolkien's time line properly, it's all over the place. Thus your comment makes even less sense considering that's one of the key aspects this show utterly butchered.
@@snerdterguson
Uhh, no. Galadriel is already thousands of years old in the Second Age. You wanna tell us that Galadriel matured only after 5,000 years?
@@snerdterguson What makes Galadriel unique even by the 2nd Age is she is the last of the Elven nobility of her generation that went to Middle Earth. She was born before the rising of the Sun and during the Bliss of Valinor when Melkor was chained so she had a unique perception over the elves who stayed in Middle Earth during the Second Age. To be really pedantic she was already around 700 years old when Melkor started sowing strife amongst the Noldor. She was already over 1200 years old when she left Valinor. It was the Kinslaying that turned her against the Wars of Beleriand and after spending time with Melian she eventually left to her brother Finrod's kingdom and left there as well to go beyond the mountains.
@@snerdterguson
At least reply saying you werw wrong.
My fav is how Tolkien said he hated allegories and metaphors and RoP decided to fuck that and use third grade poetry homework as the basis of their dialogue
I LOVE that you mentioned the cave troll was a slave and a by-product of an evil ruler. It wasn't just an evil force doing evil things, it was a prisoner.
Well, in "The Silmarillion", trolls were bred when the rebel Vala Melkor captured some of Yavanna's Ents and tortured them beyond recognition. He did the same thing with torturing Elves into Orcs.
If the pfp is you, you should LOVE ROP - You can see yourself reflected in the blonde female lead? If even you don't like it, I'm starting to suspect there's something a little queer about this representation stuff
@@arostwocents Yes it's actually me in my pfp. No, I do not see myself represented in the female lead whatsoever. I refuse to even watch it. I tried starting it and hate how all the characters are portrayed. This is not my Tolkien world. If I want to feel reflected in a character, I'd want it to be by personality, not looks.
Yes I WILL watch all of this again, this review holds 10x more value to me than the actual show 😂 👏 🔥 💯
Much appreciated.
Absolutely same here. This is one of the best. 😂
This was the first of the Despot's videos I watched.
It was better than the entire Rings of Pyre series. Better writing and presentation, at a fraction of the price.
On my second watch myself
Writers don't understand that the strength and capability of a character is less important than how a character grows in the face of adversity. And if you have invincible characters, they need to be anchored to something, like superman's weakness is his love for Lois and humanity, but it's also the thing that drives him, his reason for existing. Guyladrial only cares about her own obsession with revenge, but she's perfect. Her only struggle is finding out her friend is Sauron, but she didn't even struggle with that, she doesn't care at all. I think it comes from writers with no life experience.
I also think lack of literacy has to do with it; the writers don't read books, and the few books they have read are trash.
@@DespotofAntrim Yeah. Harry Potter. That's all they've read. Maybe also Twilight and YA crap like Hunger Games and Divergent.
Feels like PTSD but it’s not addressed. And if it is PTSD it should be. Not enough with their backstory or her and Finrod to strengthen their kinship. The darkness line he says does not help either unless re-edited and almost thought she was going to be Sauron.
@@InvertedWIng definitely Twilight and Shades of Grey as they tried to ship Galadriel and Sauron
I have to admit seeing Sauron as the hero, actually makes the show a bit better.
I assume this is Sauron's fanfic.
Rooting for Adar and Sauron made this exciting. Halbrand makes absolutely no sense though.
It's insane. Sauron just wanted to be left alone later and later he seemed quite happy to help Celibrimbor until Galadriel exposed him (but didn't tell anyone). Adar was trying to find a home for his people. Meanwhile the humans in the Southlands were dirty racists. Numenoreans were xenophobes. The Elves were manipulative of their allies and they occupied humans for a thousand years. Only the dwarves had the right idea - at least the king did who wanted them to stay out of the whole thing. And of course the Harfoots were grubby little cultist vermin who need to be wiped out. Was this the writers' intention to make the good guys reprehensible and the bad guys somewhat noble?
Distain for the source material is the most disgusting trait producers can have
It destroyed The Witcher.
@@kasegiyabu5030 and quite a lot of star wars
@@kristianawilson5996 Not on film, but definitely on T.V.
Disregard for spelling is another.
@@gaminawulfsdottir3253 Which producers have shown a disregard for spelling?
This review is ART.
I have watched this three times now and I am still entertained by it.
It did not cost over a billion dollars.
40% of the budget went into the graphics and visuals, which where the only part where the Woke brainrot couldnt infest as easily.
60% went into "consulting" and prolly buying mansions for the writers
Agreed. I added it to my Favourites to watch from time to time when I need a laugh
Glad I didn't bother.
@@honkhonk8009more like in pocket to amazon.
@@honkhonk8009 ENGINEER GAMING!
Everything that could be said about this atrocity can be broke down to one line: They just didn´t understand it.
They had no desire to understand it. That much is obvious. After Jackson's LOTR, Amazon wanted a Middle Earth cash cow. They gambled that whatever they threw at us would be an instant hit because, Tolkien. They bet poorly.
@@Spluckedgood thing they fail, and now all they products will be automatically bad and lose money, as we now know true color of amazon.
@@Splucked”They chose… poorly.”
"Look at you now. Commander of the northern armies and warrior of the wastelands." It's incredible that it cost a billion dollars and this is the quality of the writing.
And yeah- you're absolutely right. Without context freaking Sauron and the villains almost look like the good guys. "Adar" seems to care about his orcs more than Galadriel and her friends care about the people on their side.
In the first episode when Galadriel tries to abandon her injured friend I assumed it was part of an arc and she would grow into a better person . . . nope. This selfish behavior is reinforced and justified more and more as the series progresses. I hope no one is stupid enough to watch this and actually take the themes to heart. This is poisonous
Wow exactly 💯 speceally last part of your written should be more spread on internet...not parents should be allowed this show is poison for kids 😞
I mean, wasn't Saurons motivation starting out that he wanted to create order to make up for his past deeds as Morgoths Lieutenant? The show wasn't good, but them making the antagonist more than just pure evil isn't one of the reasons to me. I'm not saying they did a good job, but the attempt was to make him more compelling than a character that is just the bad guy because they're evil.
@@snerdtergusonhumanizing the villain wasn’t the problem. Making the villain a better person than the “heroes” is the problem.
Trying so hard to be GOT. lol.
Like why do you want to imitate an inferior piece of literature? You already have in your hands the greatest fantasy story and you still want to be like GOT. lol
Amazon's Galadriel is a reflection of the modern independent women: Leave anyone, especially husbands, if they ran out of money.
Tolkien: Everything bad is because of wicked men and demons
ROP: Everything bad is because of Galadriel and Eldond
When did Tolkien say that?
Another thing on human-elf romance, it's specified in the books that this sort of stuff almost never happens, and when it does, the human, I think always a man, has to first prove himself, so to say. Elrond only let Arwen marry Aragorn when he had assured his rule over literally the entirity of humankind.
And if you think about it, Guyladriel is actually a half-decent parody of Feanor. But even a character that became ash upon dying because his heart was that much on fire is less reckless than Guyladriel.
No in the Silmarillion there was this one Human Elf romance between a guy Elf and a human Woman but he had to leave her and it was very sad.
Also Aragorn doesn't become King of all of humankind.
There are other kingdoms in middle earth other than Gondor and Arnor, such as Rhun and Harad, and I guess Umbar as well, I have no idea the status of Umbar after the Corsairs were driven out, but previously it was independent.
The Oliphant riders at the battle of Pelenor fields were men from Harad. They're generally not thought of as much because Tolkien doesn't flesh them out at all in LotR and only vaguely fleshes out their history in the Silmarillion and Legendarium, which I think is a shame. It would also be a great opportunity for these diversity toting retards to do a series about dark people in middle earth, and have it make sense, AND flesh out on something Tolkien didn't. They could have created something pretty cool. But they didn't. Instead, they made black dwarves.
No race. In the entirety of fiction. Needs Melanin less. Than Tolkien's dwarves. It serves, ZERO function to them.
Even Feanor would hate her.
The fact that we can still speak out against the evils of the Post Modern Marxists and their ilk is a good sign. Despot; you do the world a service by informing and empowering them. Best wishes.
Marxist? They’re not. Just twats.
Marxists? They're SJWs, what would Marxists have to do with them?
wtf is s post modern marxist?
@@tejasgreen1717 Here's a video that can explain: ua-cam.com/video/Zw1ucZEqQ78/v-deo.html
@@tejasgreen1717what’s commonly known as woke is actually rebranded identity Marxism
I honestly tear up every time I see the cave troll die in Fellowship. THAT is great directing and writing.
lmao little crybaby
He sounded so pitiful before he fell dead. I thought that when I first saw the movie, and I feel it every time I rewatch it.
@@blueskysummit6153 He sounds so sad, confused, completely lost. It hurts me so much every time because he sounds like a little child or a faithful dog. Doing what he was told to do and suffering for it. Just thinking of that moment and typing this makes me tear up.
In "The Silmarilion", Tolkien explains that Trolls were bred when Melkor (a.k.a. Morgoth) tortured and mutilated Ents.
The most baffling thing about the whole village battle is why they did that in the first place. Every single payoff they wanted they could have easily gotten by having the villagers do the sensible thing and hide away in the fortress.
Have discount legolas trick the orks? Sure, just have him set the empty village on fire instead of crashing that tower.
Have village wench initiate the first strike against the orks while having her friend die? Have them set up a trap on the path to the fortress.
Have adar do some tricky thing to save random villager a? Have him do that when a burning village building collapses on them.
Have flaming carts? Have them roll down that nice and narrow bridge to the fortress.
Have adar discover the keyhole? Well first of all he shouldn't need to discover the keyhole, he should already know where it is. But if you want him to discover it have a spy discover it and tell adar.
Have little boy sneak into the village to get foodstuff? Have him sneak into the village to get foodstuff.
Have the numenorians heroically ride into the village? Have the orks set up camp inside the village while they siege the fortress.
Do you absolutly want to have that tower falling down? Have it be a last desperate maneuver after the orks breaching into the fortress with the villagers trying to escape to the back of the mountain (this way you'd also get a nice reference to the two towers).
There is literally no reason not to have the villagers posess more than two braincells and hide in the fortress.
Remember that Hollywood will continue with garbage like this if you watch it. Don't pay them anything and don't stay silent. Let Hollywood know - in nice language - that we will not accept their insults or their franchise destruction.
This show is telling its viewers that the Galadrial in this story develops into the character played by Cate Blanchett...the same with Elrond...and I absolutely agree with you, I could watch the Battle of Helms Deep and the whole Trilogy over and over again. This series is insulting to the people who have read the books, enjoyed the original Trilogy but most of all insulting to JRR Tolkien himself. Peter Jackson himself stated that he tried to follow the story in the books. He succeeded where this show failed miserably...excellent presentation by yourself.
This has nothing to do with galadriel we grew up with
@druidofscosglen2868not including Tom Bombadil was a great decision, always hated that nonsensical character... LOTR was not just a perfect adaptation, it was even better than books (even if it's 'heretical' to say so)
@@albogypsy2842 I agree in some regards, though. I prefer movie-Aragorn over book-Aragorn.
The whole reason that Galadriel is even around in Tolkien's LotR is because it took millennia for grief to wear her down into the character we see in Fellowship. The beginning of her character arc is that her people rebel against the angels that rule Middle Earth and basically walk out of heaven because they want revenge on Sauron's old boss. She goes along not because she agrees with that, but because she wants to make a name for herself in Middle Earth. All the Noldor go through hell and by the end of the First Age are either dead or broken in spirit, and all the leadership of the Noldor that weren't born in Middle Earth return to Valinor *except Galadriel* because she's *still* proud and headstrong. It takes until the end of the Third Age, when she's been in Middle Earth longer than the Pyramids have been around IRL, before she's questioning what she really gained from all of this (the temptation of the Ring for her is that everything she built over millennia with her ambition is crumbling, and she only need take the ring to salvage her ambition and Make Lorien Great Again). If she were any less headstrong, she'd already have gone home. So it's *entirely* believable that the Galadriel in this story develops into the character in Tolkien's LotR. Any other Galadriel would develop into that character sooner and would tap out before LotR, so in fact *only* this Galadriel is believable, or consistent with Tolkien. PJLotR doesn't engage with any of this, so the character played by Cate Blanchett is effectively a blank slate, making the question of whether RoP's Galadriel is consistent with her a moot point; practically anything could be consistent.
Meanwhile, PJLotR presents us with an angsty Aragorn that's deeply conflicted about whether he can handle being king, and expects us to believe that he has the fortitude to follow the path of Tolkien's Aragorn, while this show gives us an Elendil that has the confidence we'd expect of Aragorn.
Criticize RoP if you want, it certainly has a lot of flaws, but don't pretend that Jackson respected Tolkien *more*.
@@JonBrase *"So it's entirely believable that the Galadriel in this story develops into the character in Tolkien's LotR."*
No. Being a child, a bad leader (when you're actually canonically already a great leader) and absolutely despicable as a person and being headstrong are two different things.
But hey, it's okay. We can't all be right about things ;)
Excellent review.
It's no mistake that a sane person would end up rooting for the villain. This is not due to the wrtiter's inexperience, but because Woke morality is twisted.
I find it particularly disturbing when woke movies portray violence: they direct it only towards white men in disgusting ways and they also expect people to consider it funny. On the other hand no woman can be hurt, unless in a final showdown with another woman. This happens also in mainstream movies generally considered "not-woke" like the John Wick saga.
Once you see it you cannot unsee it.
Father Enrico Pucci was Modern Hollywood before even being a thing
Did not expect to see a Jojo reference here
But in John Wick the are only three women who fight, one of which is a friend of John. The two female antagonists get treated the exact same as males in that they're quickly disposed once they go toe to toe with John
@@champ1159 it's not a reference, Part 6 anime's last portion Reflects a lot of Hollywood and visual media these days, especially his main villain with the closer he gets to achieve his goal.
I'll be talking about the issues you raised on my next video. The Hollywood double standards for women are glaring.
I don't care what they tell you in school, the worlds greatest spy was a duck billed platypus in a fedora...
Isn't this meme supposed to emphasize things that *aren't* true?
I thought it was the French guy but a platypus sounds nice
I never learned about spies in school.
My 12 yr old daughter saw Rings of power first and then the LOTR trilogy. She thanked me for introducing her to the movies. Even kids are aware how awful the pretentious wokeness in the Rings for power is.
kids usually can see thru fakery
‘Wokeness’?
@@TCStink3 I dont really know at this point. Im all about social deconstruction and stuff but i also hate how corporations use a surface interpretation about progressiveness but when people use the "Woke" its impossible to know if they are talking about corporations or normal people too
@@1lukarioz Woke Cult was created by corporations. Artificial ideology and fake narrative created to replace the real leftism and liberalism (and anti-globalism). Back in late '90s/early 2000s young people were fighting against the system. Then the establishment created Woke ideology. Today, young people are fanatically defending the system without even realizing it.
To be honest, you failed as a father to have let her seen Rings of Power at all. Why your daughter has access to Amazon is beyond me. Have you not been paying attention to the past 8 years?
Everything is propaganda, everything is woke, and it’s all made to subvert gender roles and frankly discourage traditional families.
Lord help you if your daughter has a Netflix or instagram account. She’ll have an OF and pink hair by 10th grade.
Poor Robert Paulson, what did she ever do to deserve a butchering from a psychopath?
Also such a memorable scene: Elrhonda having dinner with Gimly and his wife Queen Latifa.
If they wanted to do a female hero focused story why didn’t they just do the story of Luthien and Beren?
Theres no rings in it though...
Neither of us wants these people to destroy that story. To quote Gandalf, "keep it hidden, keep it safe."😂
"Follow the mandalorian-"
*THIS WAS MADE BEFORE SEASON 3*
That made me laugh.
Still can’t believe how bad of a job amazon actually did with this
Milking fast as can,credo of corrupted company
I actually forgot about it all together
Wokies are the most incompetent people to ever gain power. It's the rich who were too incompetent to gain any power otherwise. It's not even a working class movement failing. 👎
The Mandalorian model didn't last too long for The Mandalorian. 🤔
I'm slightly embarrassed by that comment now.
More than happy to give this another watch. Glory to Sauron, a true hero!
Listen here Galadriel, when you come at Sauron, you best not miss 🤴
That's Sauron the Great, you pleb! 😂
“Good is a point of view, Anakin.”
*Guyladriel
All hail sauron
This series is genuinely offensive
So is the review. He doesn’t like LOTR he just hates woke. He clearly hasn’t even read the books.
@@gavinl4388 How do you know? By the way, I've never actually been all through the book (singular; Tolkien wrote it as one volume), but I love the tale all the same.
Worry not, Despot. They won't silence you. Not everyone are fools who bend over to this corporate slavery. Some of us appreciate how you give us voice and speak what we want to say (and make us laugh a lot). And we won't let you down.
Not a single moment in this 8hr bloat fest gave me anywhere near the same emotional impact as King Viserys climb the iron throne one last time
"I'll have your tongue for that".
Viserys had me so hype in that scene, it's crazy how much better he is that his books counterpart
@@champ1159 crazy isn't it, who knew following the source material and tweaking little bits here and there can be good! Amazon should've taken note.
@@ymca4547 he can keep his tongue
@@ymca4547 Viserys' last climb to the Iron Throne was entirely an invention of the show. In fact, there's very little of HOTD that is a lifted directly. They had about as much book material as the ROP did. It's all in the quality of the writing.
"Why wouldn't you look up to Sauron? He's the only real man in the show."
Very much including Guyladriel. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The reason Hollywood is obsessed with "girl-bosses" is because they believe that's how men have been portrayed.
They'll look at John Rambo or the Terminator and see men who are incredibly smart, strong, and seldom wrong. Then, they'll make female characters based on these characteristics.
They can't figure out what made Sarah Conner in the original movie a powerful, well written woman. They don't understand what makes Ellen Ripley such a badass.
Rambo wasn't written to make a statement about men. He's the embodiment of a power fantasy. It's badass because it embraces how ridiculous it is and makes no political statements. Want a female equivalent? Watch Kill Bill.
These SJWs don't get it. They don't know how to write powerful women. Because, to them, powerful women are literally in competition with men. And that is clear as day in their writing.
I do want to mention that the first showing of Rambo was as a traumatized soldier unable to integrate back into society and being thrown away after suffering trauma. Even Rambo's story started off with a morally complex arc
Perhaps the intention of the RoP was to make evil heroic, so in this "new culture" we value evil over good, without understanding exactly why. Turn good on its side, twist and subvert it, and present evil as a more valuable alternative.
Nah,this seems more likely to be just incompetence.I would not expect a skillful act from those hacks.
MCU is there too. Mass murderers of innocent are praised as victims, or heroes.
@@ilfirinms MSheU, not "MCU". ;)
@@JosephCoenMasonAh yes, the good old MSheU where 29/32 movies and 10/12 shows are male-lead lol
Yup, nothing and no one is good, only evil and destruction can exist.
Bruh I watched the whole show and didn’t even realise that Elrond was supposed to be THE Elrond
I'm deeply saddened of the role they consigned Finrod to here. Finrod in the books was an incredible story to read through, and his battle with Sauron is a master class on depicting both parties. From Sauron slowly leading Finrod to speak of Valinor, to the moment where he reveals the kinslaying that occured, breaking the Elf. Where even while in such depths of despair, he KILLS A WEREWOLF WITH HIS BEAR HANDS.
Albeit, he dies afterward because of the sheer damage he took fighting a werewolf bare-handed to protect Beren.
And *because* of this. He was resurrected in the Halls of Mandos, and sent back to Valinor.
It's so beautifully crafted. Though Tolkien may have wanted to refine it more before its release, every moment still stands with love and passion that Tolkien put into Middle-Earth.
Amazon and ROP tried to beat you over the head with. "This is good because female lead if you dislike female lead you are bad."
It's so sad to see things with such beautiful storytelling be pulled back because the writers decided they can do better.
Great video though! I'll be checking out more in the future
"It's so sad to see things with such beautiful storytelling be pulled back because the writers decided they can do better...." I think you're generally right, though ultimately, I'd say that where the likes of 'The Ring of Power' fails is not exactly because the creators thought they could do better, though some probably did think so and the results of that could only have been disastrous!
Rather, a great story is what is left over after a writer - usually a great one - had put a great deal of work into his craft, often with a trail of slowly improving failures behind him (OK, or her, but are the pronouns really THAT important?) A great adaptation would similarly depend on that great story, and so on, with the point being to get that great story out to a receptive audience.... Generally, it takes great film-makers to craft a great adaptation, just like it generally takes great storytellers to craft a great story, but not necessarily... with hard work, a dash of talent, and maybe a little luck, even mediocre talents can create a well-loved movie or TV show that happened to be in the right place at the right time... I think a lot of film-makers, even a few woke ones, have the humility to realize this, and hope to at least do "good enough" to at least break even.
That is, where the creators of a failure like 'Rings of Power' fail is, I would say, that the priorities are all wrong: they aren't trying to craft a great story or adaptation, or even just merely trying to do something "good enough" to make the minimum amount of money to pay their bills... at least, not enough are trying to do that to save a project like 'Rings of Power': these creators are a mixed lot who in various measures are instead trying to milk a cash-cow, pad a resume with something notorious in a no-press-is-bad-press kinda way, or - far, far too often - trying to indoctrinate an audience, with a story being an afterthought to the effort.
It's those who are motivated by an ideology who in many ways are the worst offenders,: "Well, LotR has its fans and got great praise, but it's not fair to me, it's racist and sexist and homophobic and needs to be replaced! So what we need are representation, and strong female characters, and a take-that for all the racist, homophobic, misogynistic, white supreme terrors who like good and beautiful stuff. I deserve to be more successful than Tolkien and Jackson because I mean well, and even if I'm not better, I deserve to at least have a chance to shame everyone into accepting my inferior knock-off instead, by default virtue of it being on the Right Side of History. I think that's everything I need, right? Oh yeah, I guess I can add a story later on...."
Yes, some of these think they can do better than actual one-in-a-lifetime classics like LotR, but on the whole, I think it's more like they DESERVE better, rather than can DO better... I think there's a bunch of them that seriously believe that a great deal of the success of something like Peter Jackson's 'Lord of the Rings' or the novel it was adapted from were built only on the use of a Straight White Christian Guy Club Card to get a shortcut to the top, and maybe they can do better, maybe not, but what's important is that they get their fair shot by playing trumping that "stacked deck" with a Woke Club Card instead, and at least getting "close enough" to count with the laziest, sloppiest, half-baked minimum of effort, because - hey, that's how the Straight White Christian Guy Club supposedly works, isn't it? They deserve their fair shot at that, too!
It's a sort of sense of entitlement to the same success as those who "cheated" at life by being born in the Straight White Christian Guy Club, rather than the conviction alone that the woke "artists" have superior talent, that drives these failures into an instant nose-dive right from the start.... Even if these woke artists really WERE better, they would be hampered by a certainty that they don't HAVE to be better, and shouldn't have to be better, because the non-woke competition somehow have an unfair advantage over them... they are certain they deserve better, but equally certain that they don't need to try to do better, because if the playing field were "level" to their delusional standards, then they wouldn't need to try to do better, and anyway since the deck is stacked against them, the audience will just reject their work anyway because of racism, sexism, homophobia, and so on, so they might as well not even try to do better. If they succeed without trying to do any better, then it's proof to them that they really do have superior talent in spite of the best efforts of the Straight White Christian Guy Club to cheat them, and they win. If they fail without trying to do any better, then that's just proof that they were cheated, and they still win!
And THAT is why these woke projects will always fail: most woke film-makers aren't even trying to do better, and don't even expect to do better, but feel entitled to success anyway.
It's a rare woke film-maker who actually can and will put some actual work into their art, while at the same time fully expecting to both be better than their rivals, while still being prepared to accept the defeat if there were a genuine conspiracy to cheat them out of a well-earned success... those who can succeed, I suspect, actually do succeed, only to then get canceled for somehow being in on the supposed White Guy conspiracy, while those who can't succeed put no genuine effort into their art, and go broke, get woke, then choke, 'Rings of Power' style....
FINROD FRIGGIN FELAGUND!!!! 📣📣📣 Maybe it was good he wasn't in the show more because he would've just been absolutely butchered like the rest of them.
Finrod is the only elf ever called a "man-friend" (while there are many mortals called "elf-friends") and he has the bearing of a saint - he is a legend! Do not desecrate his memory, RoP.
holy shit! is that true?! I only found out about finrod after watching a music video about his battle with Sauron
@@axellion4573 look up the entry on tolkiengateway about Finrod: "Finrod was also called Nóm ("Wisdom") by Bëor and his people.[7] His other titles include "the Faithful", "the Friend of Men", "King of Nargothrond", "Lord of Nargothrond".[14][15]
He was often called by the Eldar Edennil or Atandil, which means "Friend of Men" in Sindarin and Quenya respectively.[16] A variant for Atandil was Firindil.[17]"
*"I don't care what they told you in school, Shaka Zulu is a Scandinavian Woman"*
So just to add to the cave troll thing. Gandalf isn't just a Wizard. The Wizards of LOTR are literally angel warriors sent from God to the mortal realm to aid them in the fight against Sauron. That's why everyone listens to and respects them in universe.
Not quite everyone. And two of them are missing, presumed dead. They are roughly Maiar, putting them around the strength of a Balrog at best, and below some of the mightiest elf lords.
I'm pretty sure Maiar are more powerful than elves@@BWMagus
@@mr.creamy7778 definitely but LOTR is also about roles. It is not Gandalfs role or even wish to be a great leader and lord. It is to help and motivate them to fight evil
@@BWMagusNO ELF is on Gandalf or Saruman's level. Not even close.
I love the Lord of the Rings trilogy, one of the best trilogies ever made. The Hobbit trilogy had a great cast, but failed to capture what made the LotR trilogy so great. As for Rings of Power, it doesn't deserve having Lord of the Rings attached to it in the title. It spat all over Tolkien's lore and legacy, it stole his characters and turned them into unrecognizable, cheap imitations of their former selves. Every time I heard a line of dialogue that had been in the LotR trilogy it just felt horribly out of place, it didn't belong in the show. Also, for those who forgot, Arondir, Wannabe Legolas, uses a twig twice to stab orcs. Once while a prisoner in the trench, the second time during the orc attack on the village, and both times it looks ridiculous.
The movies are not the Lord of the Rings; they're dumb action movies made for general movie audiences.
''it stole his characters and turned them into unrecognizable, cheap imitations of their former selves.'' Ironic, that is precisely what the Peter Jackson movies do.
@@reek4062 the trilogy done by Peter Jackson, yes they are.
@@shamrockdragon7634 The Lord of the Rings are books. You know what a book is?
@@reek4062 If all you saw were "dumb action movies" then you weren't paying attention. And yes, not only do I know what a book is, I happen to have them in my possession, and have reread them a thousand times since I was ten. Jackson's trilogy was closer to the Lord of the Rings than Rings of Power is to anything written by Tolkien. What's more, Amazon is desperate to legitimize RoP by tying it in with the Jackson films that you oh so despise, which is why so many scenes are direct callbacks to those films. However, in writing Galadriel the way they did, RoP's showrunners have created a massive continuity error, which I will spell out for your clueless ass:
Galadriel and Celeborn have a daughter together, Celebrian. Celebrian grows up to marry Elrond, and together they have three children: Elladan, Elrohir, and Arwen. In Tolkien's work, Celebrian was born early in the Second Age; but in RoP, Celeborn has been MIA since the conclusion of the First Age, and there has been no indication that Celebrian even exists. The showrunners deliberately excluded both characters because they didn't want their super badass girlboss feminist icon tied down with anything so mundane as a family (never mind that she's four thousand years old, functionally immortal, and that her daughter is a grown woman), and because they didn't want anything to get in the way of their Galadriel/Sauron ship. By making this choice, they have effectively written Arwen out of existence.
@@shamrockdragon7634lol this is how we know you're a fake fan if you think the PJ movies are accurate depictions of the books and were true to Tolkien lore as well. Those movies are just as inaccurate as this series
Not even sure why Warner Bros would keep filing claims against Rings of Power Videos, everyone hated the damn thing so why bother playing defense for something that's failing.
As a massive Tolkien fan, high fantasy connoisseur, and also a person of colour: I also hate this trend of woke casting with every fibre of my being. I think Le Gunn’s Earthsea is a great example of how to properly put POC people into fantasy (not that any adaptations have ever managed to cast anything but white people) but shoe-horning us into Middle Earth is not. I have a wonderful thing called ‘empathy’ and ‘imagination’ and never needed Tolkien’s characters to have my skin-tone to identify with their qualities.
Tolkien was a creator of his time and upbringing, and no retroactive ‘inclusivity’ will erase the colonial past. And that is okay? I think we need to continually examine our mistakes, and our successes as a society, and this bland flattening of the world is just burying our heads in the sand.
I also think what worries me about the casting of modern productions is that it A) is lazy, and removes the need for creators to invent authentically mixed race stories and B) will add to the backlash to ‘woke’ culture that I’m sure is heading our way with the right on the rise around the world. All for big companies who dont give a shit about any of us to broadcast they are being ‘progressive’.
Anyway, I hope if you are reading this UA-cam comment, as a fellow fan of fantasy, you remember that this dumb interpretation of ‘woke’ culture, stems from an evil multinational company, not from the POC people you see in your everyday life. I’m scared that this ends with us, once again, losing all the equalities we have gained, just because some dead eyed executives wanted to cast the widest consumerist net. Late-stage capitalism doesn’t care about any of us, modernity is a curse and the most ironic part is that was exactly Tolkiens message.
Make no mistake, this was done on purpose. They deliberately switched the hero with the villain. They are trying to reprogram people's brains with the help of a famous movie, and as I can see, they are succeeding. This is just the beginning, as you can see in other movies. Don't be fooled by idiots who have no spirit, no backbone, no honor, no nothing.
stupid people certainly don't hide themselves
It's Year Zero.
So Amazon show runners are trying to reprogram good and evil in people's brains... You people live in an alternate reality lol
@@jessegiroux6521 How much do they pay you to go on social media like this and question the facts? Or you are really blind and deaf.
HA you are nuts mate
The amount of love that went into those costumes and sets, the dedication those actors brought to the screen - many of whom believing they'd be part of something epic - BREAKS MY HEART.
fix your eyes, the sets and costumes are trash as well
@@henkhenkste6076 I'm not talking about the overall vision & the people making the big decisions, but about the person painting a little detail, the craftsman creating one drape, the video intern rendering the lighting in a scene, all of them not knowing the overall picture but being excited to be part of the next Lord Of The Rings and doing their very best. Their freedom in what they do is limited, but they trusted the briefing of the show runners in their little aspect and did their best to make that one detail great. Little did they know that the overall vision was crooked from the start.
@@luikanamithe sad part a few things you’ve listed here were as shit as the script and show itself. And actually the actors themselves at least half of them are abominations as well, they are completely horrible as characters and both as humans. Watch some of their interviews for example the actor for black Legolas. He is awful to say the least
“Breaks my heart”, they never really cared about all those things you mentioned. It was nothing but like minded people coming together to destroy a masterpiece by injecting their BS propaganda.
@@AkWar9 you clearly don't know how movies/shows are made. making such a big project includes thousands of people contributing each just a little part without knowing the big picture, trusting in whatever the crew of decision makers and show runners planned. Of course the deciding group was big and maybe equally flawed like minded, but that little artist contributing that one little part of that one fabric did their best because they probably thought they'd be part of the next amazing journey to middle earth and writing history. And when you are an actor and love Tolkien, and there's a chance you get to play a little part in a new movie project, you'll do it... and chances are you don't know any lines other than yours until release.
RIP Robert Paulson. Beloved parent and troll, killed in the cruel hands of Guyladriel, the terrorist elf 🧝♀️…
That scene from Independence Day to metaphor your feelings about the Potato Hobbits was comical gold
Elrond's movie intro is a genuine triumph of incredibly efficient character set up.
The funniest and most random scene was when Galadriel was angry for some reason and then rides a horse across the beach while smiling and being filmed in a photogenic slow motion. What was the point of that scene?🤣
To show the charactera get angry for some principled reason then drop the principle. So stop expecting their axtions to make sense
😂😂😂
Every time I rewatch this video I laugh long and out loud when you call Not-Gandalf the “sky hobo”☠️
Can we talk about how nonsensical it is that black dwarfs exist in the universe of Tolkien's works from an evolutionary and biological perspective? I feel like a lot of people forget why darker skin tones even exist and why they developed.
People with darker or black skin simply have more melanin than the average European or American. Why is that? Because in the regions where people with dark or black skin originate, they have been constantly in contact with heat and the blazing sun and over many many generations and natural selection, the genetics which cause higher melanin have spread and prevailed. The purpose of an increase in melanin and darker skin is the protection from heat and sun!
Back to middle earth now. What is the main characteristic for the race of dwarfs in Middle Earth? They are mineworkers! They live and work in mines and spend most of their time underground, that's their thing, for hundreds maybe thousands of years that's what this race has been doing and that's what they're famous for. That's why it makes sense for them to be small and have a tough, sturdy build because they have to navigate through small tunnels UNDERGROUND and grind through thick rocks and walls.
I emphasize the word "underground" because I think we can all agree that there is not one possible place that can be more stripped of daylight and the sun than places underground.
So, in what reality would there ever be a case in which a race, which is adapted to a live that takes place underground for a large majority of their time, develops to have dark skin? A species' phenotype only gets developed if there is an advantage for said species for their survival or reproduction in their environment.
Having black skin as a dwarf would bring them no advantages whatsoever! Not to mention that being deprived of sunlight leads skin to fade out either way. It makes absolutely no sense.
In conclusion: Representation is important and a good thing by itself but if it makes absolutely no sense world building wise it's just lazy and feels forced.
You had me until the end
Representation is just a buzzword meaning white replacement and white erasure, it's supremacy plain and simple and artificial replacement
We don't need nor should we want representation it literally doesn't matter and will never improve a story
@@PodreyJenkin138 Yeah no. Supremacy for who? Using the context of OP. It is not inherently bad to have folks of a wide variety of backgrounds be represented. That in itself is not bad, when it makes logical sense. "All representation is bad" is baby talk and gives me a clue as to your emotional intellegence and your motivations.
@@Chabooki nonwhites? Usually black Americans in the context of the US
Also I'm sorry but if you think representation as the radical progressives use it is in any way a mature or sane concept you can do a back flip off a high place
It's a childish playground logic to reality "I need people that look like me to feel good and actually understand a story or character"
How about we write characters and hire actors to play those characters and not have quotas for skin color or genitals like some autistic weirdo NOVEL CONCEPT I KNOW
Can we talk about how nonsensical it is that you felt the need to write a public discourse on why Black dwarves shouldn't exist? Sit your racist -ss down. You're embarrassing yourself.
Travel by map was never this literal and unnecessary. Seriously, this reminds me of the traveling in GoT in Season 7 and 8, where everyone just teleported around the map like it was a Team Rocket hideout instead.
I really dont understand how this man does not have more subs. I've seen several of these videos now & just the comedy gold & editing alone is worth a sub, let alone the extremely detailed analysis on each topic. You can absolutely tell how much you put into each of your videos Mr. Despot & I absolutely appreciate it, you've got my sub good sir! Thank you!
The wrong message …. He is the „problem“ in our moDErn SOcIety 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Because he's a conservative unneccessarily bringing politics into everything and parroting insanely ignorant talking points of the right.
He is fun to watch, also me and my nephew literally argued on how good the show was so its nice for me to get some validation from a dude on the internet 🤣
I don't always watch re-uploads, but when I do it's my favorite Despot video! lmao love this one.
It looks pathetic and more like a mockery of everything that we love! They understand nothing from LOTR and this woke propaganda lacks authenticity and depth in every way possible. And that rules for making a movie??? OMG it almost killed me - what a powerful way to screw everything. Peter Jackson - thank you so much for your work on our beloved trilogy!
It only underscore how superior the movies are in comparison.
The only character who felt like a Tolkien character was that male dwarf El seemingly befriended. He could easily fit in the movies. He has that same personality as Gimli. It’s a shame that character wasn’t used in a better show/movie.
I don't remember Gimli being a cluck.
Also don't forget that Peter Jacksons Gimli was somewhat flanderised compared to book Gimli.
Not horribly distorted, but definitely exaggerated.
This vid is one of my top favorites on UA-cam, I rewatch it regularly. Now I have an excuse to enjoy it again! 👍😊
Thank you!
Glad you re-uploaded. This is a magnificent analysis of ROP and Amazon's utter failure and desecration of Tolkien's work. Keep up the good work and keep shaming these woke vandals into extinction
Well said. These Hollywoke producers and Amazon should be up in court for vandalism of Tolkien's IP.
Peter Jackson fans haven't even read the books
@@reek4062 Yes they have.
@@mikem9001 no they haven't
@@reek4062 Yes they have.
Black American accents just destroyed me 😂😂😂😂
The ROP feels like a really REALLY badly written fanfiction. And sad fact is when a short triller was released in TV me and my sister were quite excited to watch merely because the triller showed only Guyladriel and it was so edited that I didn't even had a clue how bad character she is. And then when I knew more and more info about the show I completely lost any desire to watch it so I never watch it. But I've seen enough reviews.
Now when I look how the whole world and it's inhibitors were designed in ROP. It makes want to cry. That's just how bad it is for me.
In LOTR I have always looked up to Galadriel. To her gracefulness. The way she carried herself and the fact that wisdom just shines through her. I cannot put in words just how much LOTR Galadriel was and is for me a role model of strong women.
The Guyladriel in ROP is the type of women I want be as far as possible. She is an unrealistic role model for any girl or women. I always try to not unreasonably hate a character in movies and TV shows but here it is really hard. Imagine how bad the show was filmed when it only takes a short shots from it to make picture. I don't know about you but I can't take seriously anyone who thinks a narcissistic person who's supposed to be a leader but doesn't give slightest shit about people who follow him or her is good role model.
I overall ROP is really just a bunch of people with costumes and pointy ears too large for no good reason who completely forgotten about the magic filled world that we all love and at least once dreamed about live in it.
You are 100% on point. I absolutely get past this aberration of nature by reminding myself that it is fanfiction. It is cringe fanfiction.
I don't remember the last time I enjoyed a video this much! These 48 minutes had more clever lines than the whole Rings of Pyre series!
RINGS OF PYRE! 😂😂😂😂
Priceless!!
"Pfft..I'm not gonna watch 48 minutes of this shit"
48 minutes later: F*ck, I got zero work done.
13:37 this might actually made sense if Negrolas have gone for a rich widowed (or in some cases, divorced) noblewoman. And there are a few real life cases that come to mind. For instance, the marriage between Queen Sybilla of Jerusalem and Guy of Lusignan. Sybilla was the sister of the Leper King Baldwin IV adn had lost her first husband and on top of that had a child who briefly became Baldwin V. And contrary to what Kingdom of Heaven might tell you, Sybilla actually wanted to marry Guy against the advice of her brother and some of the top nobles.
Another case involves Emma of Normandy. She had married English king Aethelred the Unready. After he died she married his Danish succesor Cnut, with whom she had a child, Harthacnut, who became King of England up to 1042. After which her son by Aethelred, Edward the Confessor became king.
Outside of that, this would only make sense if Negrolas was treating Village Wench as a convenient sidepiece. Because everything else aside, she's kinda hot. Otherwise, the writers make Negrolas here come off as a simp.