How to Upgrade a Bicycle from Freewheel to Freehub and Cassette
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- Опубліковано 29 лют 2016
- In this video I demonstrate how I replaced the freewheel rear drive train system on my bicycle with a freehub and cassette system. My primary reason for doing this upgrade was to avoid breaking axles. Over the last 10 years I've broken at least 10 axles.
The tool that I used to remove the lock ring is the ParkTool FR7, which is actually designed for removing Falcon brand freewheels, but happens to have teeth which fit perfectly. The correct tool is called a "Cassette Lockring Tool" such as the ParkTool FR5
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I've watched several "Freehub vs Cassette" videos that didn't mechanically explain or show the differences so thank you good sir for putting out a informative video!
Such a humble and simple guy who's willing to help. I'm rooting for you my guy. This video informed me well
Thanks.
@@cjhoyle In the video you are not upgrading that green bike from freewheel to freehub ! the wheel your swapping out is already a freehub that's why you were able to just swap over your cassette.
The title of your video is misleading , you should change that , no ?
@@luckyPiston At the beginning of the video, the bike had a freewheel. At the end of the video, the bike had a freehub/cassette. The bike absolutely was upgraded from freewheel to freehub/cassette. As I explained in the video, these two systems are incompatible, so doing this upgrade requires a) switching to a different rear wheel b) rebuilding the rear wheel using a different hub (very difficult and time consuming).
@@cjhoyle Right, u introduce the green bike at 2:20 but you never mentioned that at one time you had swapped out the freewheel for a freehub and then you proceed to swap a freehub for a freehub , no where in the video do you say that at one time that green bike was a freewheel ! Why would someone watching this video assume that this bike was ever a freewheel ?
@@luckyPistonI watched the video back, and I believe the part which you misunderstood was that the wheel shown at 4:40 is not the one taken from the bike. Notice how it still has a tire on it? It's a spare wheel from a different bike, and not even the same size. The wheel that was removed from the bike (the one which had the damaged rim) definitely have a freewheel on it.
I have been looking for video for upgrading to a freewheel to freehub and cassette (just to check that I wasn't missing something obvious about this procedure) and was glad to see a video by you pop up. I've been following your channel since I was a poor grad student in Toronto who needed to do his own bike repairs. Now a slightly (emphasis on the slightly ^^) less poor postdoc on the other-side of the planet, but still doing my own repairs. Thanks for all the great, no nonsense, instructional videos.
Outstanding! It's concise and to the point, with no self-promotion like you get in most self-help videos.
I agree with Jackson. You are a FANTASTIC presenter!! You are thorough....concise....clear....confident with your information and you are just straight forward in your explanation!! Good for you and thanks a bunch. It makes watching bike videos a BREEZE and enjoyable! So many others are no where close!! Cheers!
Topic apart... your explanation is in detail and very clear. You are a good teacher for sure. Cheers man keep up the good work..
You are great at explaining everything! Subscribed for more!
G'day CJ, your videos are great. I like how you describe each step and don't skip the basic things. Thanks for the great content!
i hate how he wasted my time showing us removing and installing a tire, axle and other stupid simple things, that if you dont know can look at other vids for.
Finally! Now I get it why my bike setup is different from what I see everywhere else! Thank you! I know what to do next
Nice. Good luck!
You make it easy to follow all the relevant stuff. Excellent video
I must comment again to say how good this explanation is. I've been riding for years and only now do I feel like I fully understand what both freewheel and freehub both mean lol
This was a really well made video. Thanks for sharing it!
Looks like you ride in winter like me....my motto: "chrome don't get you home.' Great explanation on cassettes.
Thanks so much for this straight to the point explanation!
The way of your explanation is simple and functional...thank you so much
Thank you. That was very clear and easy to understand. You did a great job with this video.
Good video, explaining the differences and how to work on them! I appreciate your time and making the video thanks again!👍
Thanks, glad you found it helpful!
This is an excellent video. Love the explanation with diagram about the design fault in a freewheel. Love also the Green Machine. Thank you
Thanks!
Thanks, you've explained this better than other content creators.
thank you for the very informative video.. u got answered my questions which other youtube channels did not.. keep it up!!.. 👍👍👍
Detailed but easy to understand, thanks.
The illustrated breakdown was amazing.
You're very good at explaining the process in an understandable way, thank you.
Thanks, I'm glad it was easy to follow.
Great great video. Thank you for sharing your valuable experiences regarding bicycle drive trains.
Thanks. No problem.
Great guy. Very informative. Thank you very much.
Nice video I really liked the way you did the colored drawing ..
You explain things so well
Thanks for the video my friend, excellent drawing. Now I understand why the hub always bend whit freewheel system
Fantastic video.... exactly what I was looking for as I rebuild my elderly "Specialized Sirrus Sport", purchased new in 2002. Thanks!
Thank you for making this video. This was very helpful! :)
No problem!
Perfect tutorial - unlike so many pretentious others!
All good stuff as usual.
very clear and useful! thanks!
Thank you for explaining this!
thank you, perfect video, very helpful, all the best
nice... didn't even know there was a difference between the two as far as evenly displacing weight on the back bearings.. ♡♡♡ Tom NJ
You'd only learn that if you've broken as many axles as I have over the years :P
A really nice video man, good work
Good stuff man, well made video
great video very well explained
Clear, helpful presentation.
Thanks.
Mi Amigo Man Thanks A lot Buddy it's Really Been a While.
Fantastic video
What about the front cog? Do you need to replace that one too?
Thanks a lot bro for doing this! awesome video!
No problem!
Very helpful CJ
I have been wondering for quite some time how to do this little procedure. Thanks for the help
No problem, thanks for watching. I have an updated video on this topic.
i fucking like this guy,he looks like one of my best friends
Great Video thanks!
Great explanation, thanks subscribed 👍
Thanks, glad it was helpful!
Thanks very much thinking of changing my cassette and this helped a lot
No problem!
Excellent video, thank you Sir
Thanks.
dam i read the title as how to put a freewheel on a free hub rim (with some magic wizardry) lol
my tale is my freehub pawls got chewed to flip, so i took the freehub off, and took it to the local bike shop, only to find they couldn't get me another, the guy at the shop said it was ok (which it wasn't ) so i took it to bits only to find the pawls were worn away and bits of metal were grinding, (i also killed it taking it apart, lol)
anyway long story short, i didn't know their was more than one type of hub until the old man (who works as a dog bin emptier/general refuse collector) bought me several rear wheels that were all freewheel and not freehub that had been dumped, and yep none are really usable, possibly because the came from bikes that use grip-shift
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I really benefited from the explanation of the diagram. Nice work.
Thanks, I'm glad it was helpful!
Any links to the wheel you got and what size is it? How do you do this and convert to single speed at the same time?
I had this done on my 2008 Trek 3700 after cracking the axle.
I'm only 180 lbs, but I walk the pedals often.
The 7 cog freewheel system couldn't handle it.
The new freehub with cassette works fine.
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Great video! Your cutaway view of a freewheel vs freehub body helped me decide to upgrade to the latter. Why replace the axle just to end up in the same spot six months from now? Great, succinct content. Much appreciated!
Very informative sir Thank you for the expertise!
Thanks.
Well done I learned something thank you!
No problem!
Is the axel the same length for both types?
nice clear vid thx
Can you do that upgrade on a road bike, or is it just for Mountain bikes. i mean will their be enough width on a road bike for the cassette to fit.
Thanks very helpful for beginners like me❤️
No problem!
Now i know why my freewheel pulses a little as the long axle has started to bend very slightly from the loads being so far from the support bearing. I guess i could still get a fresh straight axle and thread that through and start again with that but that will also bend in time. Good info here on the 2 types and freehub is better supported.
Super helpful.
Thanks, glad it helped.
Is the hub spacing 126mm or 130mm? I have an old bike with a freewheel and it's 126mm, but most modern wheels are 130mm, so would the wheels be interchangeable without cold setting it?
This is great!
Thanks, happy to help :)
I though a freewheel was 126mm wide and a feehub wheel is larger 134mm rings a bell. I thought you had to widen the rear forks to make a freehub wheel fit?
I'm confused. Didn't you just change wheels and then take the old tyre/tube and cassette off the old freehub.
That wasn't a freewheel sprocket. They only fit freewheel hubs. It suddenly became a cassette??
You're correct. I ended up just changing wheels in this case (since my rim was damaged). From what I know, a hub made for a freewheel is never also compatible with a freehub and cassette. Like I explained in the video, if my rim hadn't been damaged, I could have just simply bought a freehub style hub, and rebuilt the wheel using that new hub instead. I have a separate video showing wheel building. Sorry for the confusion.
I'm confused to.he's saying you can't do this or you'll damage your whatever
This is ?????
Yes, we are seeing a total rear wheel replacement, with a free hub/cassette system. It was a bit confusing removing free wheel sprocket from the old wheel, like it was interchangeable with a free hub cassette.
How come you didn't have any issues fitting the new freehub and cassette into the fork space where the old freewheel was? Once I tried to do that with a bike that had a freewheel but there was not enough space.
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Thank you sir!
No problem!
you sir are a true genious! I watched upwards of 10 videos on this topic, but the cross section explanation, the thorough explanation of why the arent' incompatible, how to change it, why it's best to buy the whole wheelset, YOU SIR ARE THE BEST.
Question for the future, name brand(shimano) vs non name brand hubs. is there a ton of difference?
Thanks! Other companies make bike parts which are fully compatible with Shimano ones.
you made that look easy.
Great!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!
Beautiful thankyou so much. Happy New year ❤️ subscribe done 👍
Thanks, you too!
Thanks for the vid. is there any adapter that exists to adapt the thread on freewheel to use a more customizable cassette? i have a really tricky ebike conversion project going on that i'm done with, bike is rideable, but i need to drop down to a 10 tooth gear in the back. requirement #2 is i dont have the width for more than a 6 speed freewheel or cassette. requirement #3 is the $400 conversion wheel has the motor built into the hub so this isn't as simple as just changing out the rim. appreciate any help. been searching and thinking about this for days.
I'm not aware of any type of adapter like you are describing...but I've also never worked on an electric bike. Freehubs and Freewheels are entirely different systems which are not designed to be compatible with each other.
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Thank you~!
Simple steps! Good knowledge! Please protect your hands too.
Thanks. My hands are safe.
I like the reflector in the old wheel . Make sure to take it out and put it in the new wheel also. LoL. Greets from bikecountry Netherlands
Good point.
I now know I have a Freehub and have been calling the wrong term with freewheel. Thanks, buddy.
No problem, glad it was helpful!
Is the shift lever compatible with an 8 speed cassette that replaced the 7 speed freewheel?
Yes, this particular shift lever was because it doesn't have index shifting.
Thanks. That looks expensive lol... Welp I guess I might as well start saving up. I have gone through 3 axles so far on my current freewheel bike so it will be worth it to upgrade considering the benefits in durability, especially since it's a mountain bike and I want to continue being able to ride it on the trails.
Welp, after researching it more, I think the best bet for me is just getting an axle made of a stronger material. Everything else is too expensive for what I paid for my bike and wouldn't be worth it.
Perfect work :-).
7 speed derailleur a shiftling lever, used on 7 speed freewheel may leave the same for 7 speed casette?
do you need to change derailleur? it say Shimano 7sis, which I believe means for 7 gears, but installed an 8 cog cassette. any compatibility issues?
No compatibility issues. The derailleur is designed to travel further from left to right than it actually needs to go.
also 6/7/8 speed indexing is close enough that you could interchange them. If you go bigger than that, like a 9 or 10 speed cassette, you will need different derailleur and shifter sets (indexed parts are matched sets). The spacing error will also be cumulative and you will be be way out of sync when changing from one end to the other end of the cog size range..
hi,
please correct me if im wrong, the cassette change that you actually showis from a damaged rim with freehub cassette into another freehub rim, am i right?
in the beginning, you were showing a different of freewheel and a cassette and how they were mount differently on the rim, right?
In my case I started with a wheel with a freewheel compatible hub and a damaged rim. I purchased a new wheel which had a freehub compatible hub. Since I needed a cassette to install on this new wheel and the one from my old wheel was not compatible, I took the cassette off of another old wheel that I had.
Wow, you made it to look so Simple.....
Thanks, I'm glad to hear.
Do you have a link to the new wheel you bought? Is it a 26”?
This video was filmed many year ago and the wheel was purchased through a local store. I would recommend visiting your local bike shop.
So it not impossible for my Urata's MTB that has freewheel 6 speed into a 7 speed freewheel or freehub or cassette.
To switch from freewheel to freehub + cassette you would need to switch to a different hub (which for most people means buying a new wheel). The other challenge is that if your bike has indexed shifting, it wouldn't be able to index with all 7 speeds.
Super cool, useful video. Plus I trust guys who don't wear gloves.
lol thanks.
Thanks.
Wow! Dealing with cassettes seems like a real PITA. It's no wonder the LBS sold me a bike with a freewheel (which are also a PITA, but seemingly not as much as cassettes, as freewheels only take one tool to remove them).
There's only one extra tool needed, really.
Both: Torque wrench.
Cassettes: A standardized lockring (for the most part) plus a chain whip.
Freewheel: A wide variety of non-standard lockrings. Pick one that matches your freewheel.
@@SantosoWijaya With a freewheel, you'll also need a solidly mounted, sturdy vise or a cheater bar and a friend.
Hmm are there any width concerns i should have if i upgrade from a 7 speed freewheel to a 9/10 speed freehub/cassette? I take it that i need a RD upgrade as well then?
The width is certainly something to think about, but if I'm not mistaken mountain bikes and road bikes each have a standard width that they use. In my experience Derailleurs are pretty adaptable. Even if a derailleur says "7 speed" on it, it will probably work for something larger. My advice is to try it with the Derailleur you already have and if it doesn't work, then buy a different one.
Thks a lot for the tip!
I did not know that it is possible to install a freehub and cassette system with the bike change accopled to a quick release. THANK YOU!
I would like to know if is possible to do that with the: Shimano altus deore alivio tourney tx505.
I don't think I understand your question. What are you trying to accomplish with the bike?
im using 9speed freewheel you said i can only go as high as 7 speed on freewheel?
Are you in North America? I've never seen higher than a 7 speed freewheel in my region.
is your frame originally a fixed gear bike one? what did you use to put the rear derailleur on there?
No, it's not a fixed gear frame, just a regular mountain bike frame from the 90's. The derailleur attaches directly to the dropout.
It is a Non-quick release frame.
Quick question: Is there an "easy" way to change the hub from one wheel to another? I'm restoring an old Peugeot bike, and want to use the Rigida rim on a spare rear wheel to build a front wheel. I've seen your other video where you rebuild a wheel, but that one works when you keep the same hub, and change the rim. I actually want to do the opposite, keep the rim, change the hub type. Is there an easy trick for this? Trying to think of some sort of process that would allow me to go spoke by spoke somehow similar to your other vid, to avoid the standard wheel building process...
Good question. Unfortunately I don't believe there is a way to do it spoke by spoke. Your best bet is to fully disassemble and rebuild.
@@cjhoyle Thanks for the reply! I'll see about getting it rebuilt if the price isn't too prohibitive. Cheers,
great!
Great info. I ordered a new wheel and 7 cog cassette to replace my old freewheel wheel as you appear to explain. What I found is that the new 7 cog cassette is not wide enough to cover the spline in this new wheel and looks I may need a 4.5mm spacer to keep it tight. Somewhere I read that the spline should be the same for 7 and 8 speeds (just smaller spacing in the 8), but not sure why I need the ring then.
Most people just use a washer....
The author did have a free hub with a cassette (not a freewheel) to begin with. So his upgrade wasn't the same as yours. Yours needed a spacer since free hub can accommodate cassette with up to 11 cogs.