UPDATE! THIS NEW BUILD POST PATCH 3 SHOTS EVERY BOSS! MAKE IT BEFORE ITS NERFED! - > ua-cam.com/video/xbwVtnmWQO8/v-deo.html First I get nothing but furries on my pulls in Zenless, and now my faith build is 80% gutted! GG! I mean we knew it was coming, but would hope it lasted at least another week Fingeprint shield users, I KNEEL! What else is gonna beat radahn? Blood thorns build? what else?? ahhhhh Comment your thoughts on the patch! swift slash nerf is nice, but fire knight sword is normalized now...
@@bern_the_undead probably won't. They never balance sorceries or bleed things. Just fuck up any possible faith builds which were still dogshit aside from the perfume bottles which aren't really that strong compared to other boss 1 shot builds and if you walked in to the rolling sparks ash in pvp then you absolutely deserved it. Zero surprises here that they would do this.
Nerfs are necessary, but if you nerf a weapon or ability to the point it becomes almost useless, then nobody will want use it anymore. I still remember Flame of the Redmanes...
@@MrJohn_mania the dlc is hard? Naa it's balanced especially with the mcguffins there is still plenty of balanced weapons that do good. 30k+ dmg in a single skill was stupid busted
A game is balanced when either nothing is op or everything is op (not absolutely everything but an op option in every build type). I am a faith user since day one and have been willing to stick with the game despite being clearly disfavored in virtually all ways. With this though, I am possibly done. When a game forces me in to a specific build path in order to be viable (particularly pvp) then they lose me immediately.
Bro! I had no idea it was nerfed when I hopped back on a few weeks ago. As usual with every new character I create, I rushed to kill Dragon Greyll and Erdtree Avatar in Dragonbarrow for the massive boost in runes for early game, wondering wtf is going on with the stagger not working. Let's just say tears streamed down my face that night.
Lmao i spent a few hours trying to make the 4th July build last night just to wake up to it all down the drain. Guess it’s what I deserve for tryna cheese
Rip. U.U I thought I was cheeky with using multiple things in case of sparks nerf, but didn't expect an all out punch in the face for 80% of the build being nerfed. well, least pest threads are decent still. at this point probably just make a blasphemous build like the good old days.
i think of all the bosses ive encountered so far consort Radahn is the most unrelenting in attacks.. i think i could possibly dodge them but on an aging ps4 it takes about 1 second before a roll registers in an animation heavy boss fight
Perfumes are working as originally intended. They still decimate larger enemies, and enemies at medium distance. They were never intended to have all explosions proc at once when cast at your feet.
Nerfed perfumes but leave jump bleeds to be the most op and have so much variety? Cmon miyazaki nerf bleed so other builds can shine more or just buff other builds ffs
What are you on about. It's probably the easiest dlc fs has ever released. Cheesing every encounter with with a single button press is nonsense. It diminishes the integrity of the game. Both pve and especially pvp. It was a much needed patch and they said they still have more balancing to do.
Can’t recommend Spinning Gravity Thrust on the colossal sword enough. Slays everything and if you running the right set up I would argue it’s more powerful than thorns.
@@tremor230 yeah bro. Try it on the classic colossal sword from normal game, then choose blood and turns it into a blood great sword or something. There is a video on UA-cam for the full set up to maximise damage output.
Glad I didn't get it on release. They have that nasty habit of making something good just to get the nerf bat right after. Cool weapons especially get that treatment. Nothing can be cool in this game and good at the same time. You either pick cool OR good. They could have gone the other way and buff less interesting stuff but no... Why giving people more choice ? In a singleplayer game too... No one cares about pvp when netcode is this bad.
My question is why do they consistently fuck over madness and it really only works in pvp it’s my favorite fire damage in the game why even include it if it’s going to get nerfed to nothingness and make items for the same type of damage in madness that doesn’t work on anything but npc humans or online players shit is redundant and is the only thing that genuinely upsets me they won’t completely fix madness
Most of the stuff from this dlc is mid AF anyway, i watched several videos from other youtubers showcasing weapons, incantions, spells, and nothing impressed me, used the bloodfiend arm on my 2nd playthrough and it was fun rolling through the dlc with it.
Facts. And all because they are bad at the pvp. If you got hit by rolling sparks in pvp, you absolutely deserved it. It had hardly any poise, could be canceled easily, and is beyond clearly telegraphed
Next patch better come with buffs to weapons that deserve it. Like…dryleaf arts or any of the new sorceries that are dogwater. Seeing so many nerfs just sucks.
Instead of fixing or bring other weapons in line they just gatekeep their trash game. The enemies need major fixes. Every weapon and spell, AoW they are all fucking useless. The only builds worth using are tank builds everything else gets punished hard because of long animations lack of hyper armor or damage in general. After all my years with souls games I'm fed up with their bullshit. I won't be buying another game from this overrated company again
Fun question. The patch note in your video says lightning perfume bottles and frenzy perfume bottles. Since it's so specific and didn't say "all perfume bottles", does that mean rolling sparks still work with chilling bottle? Or fully dead?
they nerfed rolling sparks and wall individually as well, which was the main thing. I guess lightning had extra damage beyond that, which did seem to be the case when I fought centipde boss with it vs fire. I though they just did less due to me not having a lot of dex even tho centipede is super weak to fire, but guess the bug also played apart.
@@PWARGaming hey, maybe you can now try a magic build. Never seen much magic outside the thorns bleed build. Maybe you can play around the carrian sovereignty ash of war or something. Or use the buffed carian sorcery sword since it has S int scale now. Can't wait your next build now that they ruined everything.
Pvp can not coexist with pve. It just cant. Same problem with destiny. New supwr good weapon, and it becomes useless in the next uodate. They need to completely separate pvp from pve with specific balancing for both.
I’m using perfumes right now and they work fine. The bug was the sparks were hitting all at once. Now it’s scattered as it should be. Which means you need to land your attacks right. Nothing was nerfed it was fixed. The build still works. Don’t understand how anyone can bitch about an unintended mechanic that’s game breaking is fixed 2 weeks after release. Plus this game has so many build variations that can clear the DLC just fine if you know how to press the dodge button.
Been using the smithscript daggers with flame art for a few days, been a lot of fun, they feel so bad now, what do you think will be the best build with them going forward? I know bleed might be good but don't they have really low bleed?
Eh good thing i had my fun while i did. I knew they would go full on fun police. Absolutely idiotic. They just went on youtube and watch videos and were like "yep this is all being nerfed" and they wasted no time making everything useless now.
well I just 2 shot messmer with one spell they didn't touch, so they clearly missed something. but yes, just seems they search videos by view count and nerf accordingly, and for pvp there's like only 3-4 big channels to pay attention to for balancing stuff. classic "players do the testing for the devs" approach.
Don't worry. If cheese is what you want, just go with sorceries or bleed. But god forbid faith users be thrown a bone... And it wasn't even busted compared to long existing things in the game that they did not address and likely never will. Basically fuck faith users I guess but that's nothing new.
@@Aceman50333 sorceries? In the dlc? Don’t make me laugh. Pure int users got shafted in the dlc. Try fighting the aggressive bosses with sorceries. And you say faith has nothing when Holy shines the absolute most in the dlc. Like huh???
why waste money on that,you have youtubers nowadays, all dev look at video they made,and nerf base on that,the same goes for all kind of game like Destiny etc
@@PWARGaming Thanks man! Luckily, I haven't updated my game yet. So I'm about to use the offline launcher mod and go ham with the rolling sparks for a quick Forth of July nuke fest. 'Merica! (and Merika!)
@@xXmr007duckXx based off their past history of allowing sorceries and bleed to remain extremely op, I kind of doubt they will nerf it. Will they beat faith in to the ground even harder? Probably
I just wanted to make your build from yesterday, got all smithscript weapons this morning and then I see that fixx. What would you say how much worse are the smithscript weapons now?
AR wise it was about a 26% difference between cirque and the backhand blades, so a pretty huge nerf. actually, I incorrectly viewed the status page, and now backhand blades with the same scaling outdamage cirque...still, for a faith setup, typically you would just go those infusions regardless, and since you can't buff smithscript weapons, thats kinda your only option. altho now if you just wanted to do just daggers, then bleed is probably still best like I had in my vampire build. I guess if you wanted to max cirque damage than you'd just go a pure dex build now maybe, since they'd reach higher scaling. it and throwing get S scaling. that was originally the plan for backhand blades using electrify armament, till I decided on sparks.
Was it? Was overnerfing necessary? Why not just make it balanced and have it be useable? They just killed off one of the new weapon class’ with that nerf. They didn’t have to make it super bad in order to “balance” it.
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UPDATE! THIS NEW BUILD POST PATCH 3 SHOTS EVERY BOSS! MAKE IT BEFORE ITS NERFED! - > ua-cam.com/video/xbwVtnmWQO8/v-deo.html
First I get nothing but furries on my pulls in Zenless, and now my faith build is 80% gutted! GG! I mean we knew it was coming, but would hope it lasted at least another week
Fingeprint shield users, I KNEEL! What else is gonna beat radahn? Blood thorns build? what else?? ahhhhh Comment your thoughts on the patch! swift slash nerf is nice, but fire knight sword is normalized now...
PSA: Greatshields and Impenetrable Thorns are still safe and OP! Bleed overall remains OP lol.
Imma get right on that Impenetrable Thorns build before it takes a hit as well!
yah, surely they won't make a 2nd patch within a week r-right? we got at least 2-3 weeks to abuse! go go go!
@@bern_the_undead probably won't. They never balance sorceries or bleed things. Just fuck up any possible faith builds which were still dogshit aside from the perfume bottles which aren't really that strong compared to other boss 1 shot builds and if you walked in to the rolling sparks ash in pvp then you absolutely deserved it. Zero surprises here that they would do this.
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Blood for the blood gods
Nerfs are necessary, but if you nerf a weapon or ability to the point it becomes almost useless, then nobody will want use it anymore. I still remember Flame of the Redmanes...
As long as pvp exist, this will unfortunately always happen
This DLC is bullshit. It’s way too hard! Nerfs weren’t necessary for PVE.
@@MrJohn_mania the dlc is hard? Naa it's balanced especially with the mcguffins there is still plenty of balanced weapons that do good. 30k+ dmg in a single skill was stupid busted
A game is balanced when either nothing is op or everything is op (not absolutely everything but an op option in every build type). I am a faith user since day one and have been willing to stick with the game despite being clearly disfavored in virtually all ways. With this though, I am possibly done. When a game forces me in to a specific build path in order to be viable (particularly pvp) then they lose me immediately.
Bro! I had no idea it was nerfed when I hopped back on a few weeks ago. As usual with every new character I create, I rushed to kill Dragon Greyll and Erdtree Avatar in Dragonbarrow for the massive boost in runes for early game, wondering wtf is going on with the stagger not working. Let's just say tears streamed down my face that night.
Hahahahaha Nice troll not only were they nerfed but they also made the weapons useless and the perfumes too
Lmao i spent a few hours trying to make the 4th July build last night just to wake up to it all down the drain. Guess it’s what I deserve for tryna cheese
SAME LIKE BRUH!
Rip. U.U I thought I was cheeky with using multiple things in case of sparks nerf, but didn't expect an all out punch in the face for 80% of the build being nerfed. well, least pest threads are decent still. at this point probably just make a blasphemous build like the good old days.
I still got my crazy beast claw/blood fire build, I'm good.
@@PWARGaming Taker's Flame still works like a charm in Shadow, even without the knock down. Plus, it now gets a buff from the new Talisman of Dread.
same bro
forget the perfumes they are useless except the ice cream maybe
i think of all the bosses ive encountered so far consort Radahn is the most unrelenting in attacks.. i think i could possibly dodge them but on an aging ps4 it takes about 1 second before a roll registers in an animation heavy boss fight
Perfumes are working as originally intended. They still decimate larger enemies, and enemies at medium distance. They were never intended to have all explosions proc at once when cast at your feet.
God forbid we have fun. PVP and PVE patches need to be kept separate.
Radahn took me like 19h. But I did it with no summons and none of the cheese weapons, by far the hardest boss I’ve faced in any game. Sekiro included.
Nerfed perfumes but leave jump bleeds to be the most op and have so much variety? Cmon miyazaki nerf bleed so other builds can shine more or just buff other builds ffs
This DLC is way to hard and they nerf every cool weapons. Fuck Fromsoftware.
What are you on about. It's probably the easiest dlc fs has ever released.
Cheesing every encounter with with a single button press is nonsense.
It diminishes the integrity of the game. Both pve and especially pvp.
It was a much needed patch and they said they still have more balancing to do.
The only reason they needed them was bc they were op(even though you needed a build to do it) quit being a crybaby
@@Kingdo99afr, I only cheese bosses once I beat them normally the first time
Luckily didn't update my game yet
Thanks for letting me know haha
Exactly what I said. Fromsoft is what made me stop automatic updates
How do you stop automatic updates? Bro bro
Can’t recommend Spinning Gravity Thrust on the colossal sword enough. Slays everything and if you running the right set up I would argue it’s more powerful than thorns.
You can put that on colossal weapons?
@@tremor230 yeah bro. Try it on the classic colossal sword from normal game, then choose blood and turns it into a blood great sword or something. There is a video on UA-cam for the full set up to maximise damage output.
@@juliancaesar4575 thank you!
Glad I didn't get it on release. They have that nasty habit of making something good just to get the nerf bat right after.
Cool weapons especially get that treatment. Nothing can be cool in this game and good at the same time. You either pick cool OR good.
They could have gone the other way and buff less interesting stuff but no... Why giving people more choice ?
In a singleplayer game too... No one cares about pvp when netcode is this bad.
My question is why do they consistently fuck over madness and it really only works in pvp it’s my favorite fire damage in the game why even include it if it’s going to get nerfed to nothingness and make items for the same type of damage in madness that doesn’t work on anything but npc humans or online players shit is redundant and is the only thing that genuinely upsets me they won’t completely fix madness
as St.Trina worshiper who find sleep status buildup interesting, I can feel you O Lord of Frenzied Flame...
Most of the stuff from this dlc is mid AF anyway, i watched several videos from other youtubers showcasing weapons, incantions, spells, and nothing impressed me, used the bloodfiend arm on my 2nd playthrough and it was fun rolling through the dlc with it.
Yeah … Thank the PvP gods who bitched about dying.
Facts. And all because they are bad at the pvp. If you got hit by rolling sparks in pvp, you absolutely deserved it. It had hardly any poise, could be canceled easily, and is beyond clearly telegraphed
Blood fiend arm is still broken as fuck
Next patch better come with buffs to weapons that deserve it. Like…dryleaf arts or any of the new sorceries that are dogwater. Seeing so many nerfs just sucks.
Glad I didn't spend my upgrades on those Smithscript weapons now. I was sure going to respec into faith and use the Cirque.
The Thrusting Shield nerf hurts the most, especially since I mainly do PVE
Discus hurl should have just had its tracking adjusted. It tracks better than most spells
Instead of fixing or bring other weapons in line they just gatekeep their trash game. The enemies need major fixes. Every weapon and spell, AoW they are all fucking useless. The only builds worth using are tank builds everything else gets punished hard because of long animations lack of hyper armor or damage in general. After all my years with souls games I'm fed up with their bullshit. I won't be buying another game from this overrated company again
This what happens when you patch in an easy mode for all the complainers. Everything has to be nerfed to compensate...
Once again I'm baffled about why they nerf stuff. Give them only to nerf them afterwards. SMH.
Fun question. The patch note in your video says lightning perfume bottles and frenzy perfume bottles. Since it's so specific and didn't say "all perfume bottles", does that mean rolling sparks still work with chilling bottle? Or fully dead?
Fully dead
@@Asteriarimia well there was hope for one second. Thanks for letting me know at least
@@Waxf0rd If you use it normally you deal good damage, especially if the enemy is big, but yes, it's not broken anymore.
they nerfed rolling sparks and wall individually as well, which was the main thing. I guess lightning had extra damage beyond that, which did seem to be the case when I fought centipde boss with it vs fire. I though they just did less due to me not having a lot of dex even tho centipede is super weak to fire, but guess the bug also played apart.
@@PWARGaming hey, maybe you can now try a magic build. Never seen much magic outside the thorns bleed build. Maybe you can play around the carrian sovereignty ash of war or something. Or use the buffed carian sorcery sword since it has S int scale now. Can't wait your next build now that they ruined everything.
Pvp can not coexist with pve. It just cant. Same problem with destiny. New supwr good weapon, and it becomes useless in the next uodate.
They need to completely separate pvp from pve with specific balancing for both.
Why we need to one shot cheese everything. Bugs should be fixed.
Cant agree more
It doesn’t mean they should overnerf to the point where they are useless.
@@Destiny_sm like?
I’m using perfumes right now and they work fine. The bug was the sparks were hitting all at once. Now it’s scattered as it should be. Which means you need to land your attacks right. Nothing was nerfed it was fixed. The build still works. Don’t understand how anyone can bitch about an unintended mechanic that’s game breaking is fixed 2 weeks after release. Plus this game has so many build variations that can clear the DLC just fine if you know how to press the dodge button.
Looking forward to your thorns build my man
Been using the smithscript daggers with flame art for a few days, been a lot of fun, they feel so bad now, what do you think will be the best build with them going forward? I know bleed might be good but don't they have really low bleed?
Nerfing these weapons for PvE is so stupid. God forbid people have fun with a small group of weapons fighting AI
Eh good thing i had my fun while i did. I knew they would go full on fun police. Absolutely idiotic. They just went on youtube and watch videos and were like "yep this is all being nerfed" and they wasted no time making everything useless now.
well I just 2 shot messmer with one spell they didn't touch, so they clearly missed something. but yes, just seems they search videos by view count and nerf accordingly, and for pvp there's like only 3-4 big channels to pay attention to for balancing stuff. classic "players do the testing for the devs" approach.
Next time we find cheese, don't share it please; let others find it on their own, cause of this we ain't got it no more 🤣
Don't worry. If cheese is what you want, just go with sorceries or bleed. But god forbid faith users be thrown a bone... And it wasn't even busted compared to long existing things in the game that they did not address and likely never will. Basically fuck faith users I guess but that's nothing new.
@@Aceman50333 sorceries? In the dlc? Don’t make me laugh. Pure int users got shafted in the dlc. Try fighting the aggressive bosses with sorceries.
And you say faith has nothing when Holy shines the absolute most in the dlc. Like huh???
why did you release the games with its overpowering weapons? must be tested first
why waste money on that,you have youtubers nowadays, all dev look at video they made,and nerf base on that,the same goes for all kind of game like Destiny etc
to make it easier for early adopters of course.. they always do this even with the base games
They never fixed anything they just broke everything. The pre dlc weapons and builds are better now that the dlc.
Thank Jebus that I beat Redahn with a thrusting shield yesterday!
nice! that was the next planned build. maybe I should just stick away from "s" tier junk and just lay low on the B-A tier stuff :p
@@PWARGaming Thanks man! Luckily, I haven't updated my game yet. So I'm about to use the offline launcher mod and go ham with the rolling sparks for a quick Forth of July nuke fest. 'Merica! (and Merika!)
We went from 17k damage to 5 hahahahahahahahahah
does anyone got an issue booting up the game? it can't even proceed to namcobandai logo
No nerfs. Bug fixes*
Are thorns nerft?
Not yet
@@xXmr007duckXx based off their past history of allowing sorceries and bleed to remain extremely op, I kind of doubt they will nerf it. Will they beat faith in to the ground even harder? Probably
Sparks are dead? Thats a shame i was about to use it
Im glad I copied your build a day before the nerf lol
Is fire greatsword still good pve or is it gutted?
It is almost unchanged for PVE.
Fire sword still good?
idk bout the scaling change they talked about, but the r1 combo was strictly a pvp thing, so should be fine in pve still.
F em all
Whats up the fire knight nerf?? Wth fromsoft
It was really only a pvp nerf. The other change I’m pretty sure was a bug that caused the weapon to do holy damage rather than fire damage.
I just wanted to make your build from yesterday, got all smithscript weapons this morning and then I see that fixx.
What would you say how much worse are the smithscript weapons now?
AR wise it was about a 26% difference between cirque and the backhand blades, so a pretty huge nerf. actually, I incorrectly viewed the status page, and now backhand blades with the same scaling outdamage cirque...still, for a faith setup, typically you would just go those infusions regardless, and since you can't buff smithscript weapons, thats kinda your only option. altho now if you just wanted to do just daggers, then bleed is probably still best like I had in my vampire build.
I guess if you wanted to max cirque damage than you'd just go a pure dex build now maybe, since they'd reach higher scaling. it and throwing get S scaling. that was originally the plan for backhand blades using electrify armament, till I decided on sparks.
@@PWARGaming thank you for your in-depth response. I'll look into the vampire build right away. I wish I could've tried the build but anyway.
Nice wouldn't be fromsoftware without the struggle
i dont think even the sword of night and flame nerf was this drastic though. 2.7k vs radahn while turbo buffed is absolutely SHIT!
This what happens when the MOST BROKEN BUILD comes out 🎉
well ironically one new spell may have one upped sparks just now, wtf are these balance teams doing?
Nice job on ruining the fun of playing a basically solo game nerf pvp if u want not pve
What a dogshit patch. "You will play bleed or sorceries and nothing but that and you will like it!" No, no I won't. I just wont play
Or.. you can just play without a completely broken build?
You do realize sorceries are dogshit in the dlc right? Especially against the main bosses.
The patch had to happen there was to much broken weapons especially the perfume bottles
Everything? Way to over exaggerate lol you should know these nerds were coming
IS it possible to disconect internet cable from xbox to not upload the patch?
Git gud man
yes! if your console doesn't connect, you can stay on the 1.12.2 patch. otherwise if you connect you might auto update.
@@PWARGaming thank you bro
Why would do a video on the final boss of the DLC??? Douche move.
honestly, very well deserved nerfs, those items were clearly overperforming
true, we all knew it was coming. just funny it came out today of all days lol
Was it? Was overnerfing necessary? Why not just make it balanced and have it be useable? They just killed off one of the new weapon class’ with that nerf. They didn’t have to make it super bad in order to “balance” it.
Tbf these nerfs were needed, im just glad none of the bosses were nerfed.
nothing was nerfed.. you just need to git gudder
@PWARGaming Could I get that song you used in the credits? Tried my best searching but can't get results!