The mystery gadget with the sprocket appears to be part of a "bicycle" chain drive auto-pilot system. It fits onto the hub of the steering wheel with the two flanges nesting into the spokes of the wheel. The rest of the system is likely somewhere under the interior rubble. I helped a friend of mine install a similar system on his new 1980 Niagara 35 back in the day and it worked like a charm.
Hello, I have the 1972 Tartan 41 hull #3 that I am restoring. The former owner added 13" to the keel giving her 7'5" draft and she is 12'3" athwartship. . I found her in the woods in Maine in the mud literally. She was in much worse shape that that one. She would not even float. Once I got her her to Florida (St. Petersburg) by truck it took me 5.5 months just to get her to float. I did all the work. I have done so much work on her it is staggering. Good thing I have years of boat repairs under my belt. Every system has been replaced. The engine is a 1985 Westerbeke 46 and runs like a champ. Everything from the desk up as far as rigging has been replaced except for the mast. All the standing and running rigging has been replaced, which I again did myself. She was rode hard and put away wet in so many ways. She has been in the water now 6.5 years. I would be happy to share my story/advise/pics to you and anyone else interested in what I have done. She sails like a banshee and even with my blown out sails I have had her up to 10.4KTS! The interior still needs some lovin as do many other aspects. Thanks for the prezo.
@@YachtHunters I am still working on the interior, Apparently there was a fire the scorched and ruined the main cabin sole. Needless to say it needs replaced too. I live on her now and I work form home so she is my office too. Still trying to figure out what I am going to do with the interior. I bought her from the Main Maritime Academy in 2014 in Castine, Me where she had been in the woods for 5 years. She had to over winter there due to weather conditions not allowing her to be transported so I did not get her here until April 2015. The FO removed all the real seacocks and replaced them with ball valves. The 10" wide channel iron backing plate for 7 of the keel nuts was almost gone. When they picked it up at Salt Creek Marina I could see the keel wagging. I had a worse keel smile than the one in your segment. I used Pettit flex poxy but it did not stay very good. I think next time I will use G-Flex. I was so glad it did not fall off. The mast was sitting directly on that backing channel and the forward half up 3.25" was gone. I had to cut 3.5" off and have a new step made. Someone had drained the crankcase oil in the bilge and all fuel tanks leaked. Boy did she stink. The engine was so out of alignment it vibrated the prop strut loose and I had to glass a new one in. That was a challenge. When I had her weighed she came in at 21K lbs without the mast which weighed in at 1K lbs when fully rigged. That is just the tip of the ice berg. You could do a whole segment on the work I have done on her. Where should I post the pics?
Brings back fond memories. We had a brand new Tartan 41 donated to the university I attended after it raced a TransPac in 1977. It was a honey of a yacht. Easy to drive. Lovely to do foredeck on in a race. Very livable. I liked the main cabin berths more than the quarter berths. The nav station was function. The one we had included a ham radio and a LORAN as part of the electronics. I was lucky enough to have a student job teaching sailing and taking care of the boats the school got. There were many yachts that came through the pipeline. But that Tartan 41 was one of my favorites. Condition aside, it was nice looking back in time into the nooks and crannies of the sister ship of an old friend.
Ran-day, liked the port and starboard deck shoes. I also am liking all of the little stuff in your edits that give good visualization of terms mentioned about the boat. Every episode, am learning new nautical terms. Keep up the good work and great content you and Captain Q are providing on this channel.
As an owner of a Tartan S&S design sailboat, it breaks my heart to see this boat in its current condition. Agree, this would make a great UA-cam project boat for a young couple.
Quiz #2...thats for re-banding the spinnaker for relaunch, onced doused and brought back below. The pitman and foredeck crew place rubber bands around the hollow bucket. Then pull the chute through head first rolling the bands on at some interval
I don't see any deal breakers with this boat. She has good bones, beautiful lines and an amazing amount of room below decks. If the engine works and the refit is kept simple, you'd have a fabulous, versatile boat, for not much money.
Having read some comments, I'm chuffed at having sussed the usage of the two mystery objects. I'm a non-sailor so didn't make the precise connection with the spinnaker, but could tell that in a limited space, passing a sail through the bucket thingy would be helpful in bringing correctly orientated sails up from below while under way. The metal prongs mounted on a clearly chain-driven gear was easy. This channel has taught me a lot about how sailboats work to the point where if I had a boat it would now be a motor-sailer rather than a pure motor boat as it once would have been, CQ does a magnificent job of de-mystifying sailing.
I raced one for a year. SORC and Bermuda . Cruise her in the Bahamas. Great sea boats and great both to weather and down wind. Dick Bertram was with us on the Nassau race This boat will come together much easier than she appears. But she will take some$. But any old boat will. New sails riggging probably a roller furler. But you would do this on any boat of this vintage. That’s why it is 11000. You will spend around 45000 to get her ready.
I have a recently acquired Tartan 34C that is so vintage and similar to every old Tartan. My eyes and heart love her looks and solid build... my experience says update and make her livable but don't waste time and money when you can be out sailing.... in Hawaii
The audio has gone missing at the end, but we've heard Mr. Q's spiel so many times that we know what he's saying including Ran-day's "you know instagram's not a place"
Thank you Captain and Randy for another interesting boat tour. Certainly a project boat and your suggestion to strip it clean and then put back everything that is workable would be the fastest course to getting it back on the water. Drying it out would be the most critical and first thing to do while you did the clean out. Also would need a storage space for all of the salvageable materials to dry out would also be needed at the start. Wish I had the years ahead of me to tackle something like this it would be a fun project and could be made into a very fast cruiser.
I own a Sparkman and Stevens Catalina 38 1984. A yanky hull with a great friendly Catalina design . It has a huge salon with all the tumble home . I consider my self lucky to have this boat which is in great condition .
Another terrific report on a very interesting orphaned boat. The production of your videos is first class -- enhanced by the lovely musical accompaniment.
Anders and Don got it! In service that bottomless bucket would have rubber bands on it. The spinnaker would be passed through the bucket, with the leaches straight, and rubber band “stops” would be rolled off onto the spinnaker every few feet for the length of the leaches. The spinnaker would be hoisted behind the Genoa, close by the stops, much the way a more modern sock would do. As the boat would round the weather mark, the trimmers would trim the sheet and the guy rapidly opening the spinnaker to the breeze…. And pop, it would fill as the Genoa was dropped to the deck! It makes me feel good too see it too Captain !
An interesting boat Captain, but I don't have enough years left to tackle her. In my younger day it would have been a different story. That said I enjoyed the tour. Keep the good stuff coming.
That orange tube is for passing the sails in for easy fluff and fold. And that mechanical wheel is a weedwhackers blade for a giant. Wish i had a barn. this would be a fun refit
First, we thoroughly enjoy the weekly Captain Q videos...keep 'em coming! Second, our guess is that the mystery hardware is an Automatic Direction Finder (ADF) radio bracket.
The sprocket gizmo is an autopilot adapter for the wheel. (V notches engage the spokes). I forget the brand but it is a self contained unit the size of a shoebox with a reciprocating rod that engages the sprocket. The “box” part has a knob to set the compass course and another knob for gain.
I think the orange thing is for measuring dry spaghetti for a very hungry crew. And the swivel thing is for winding skeins of thin rope. LOL. No, you got some good answers below. Great show, thank you once again.
“I wouldn’t open that if I were you ….😊”. Ha! The overdubbed Chihuahua grin made me LOL! So … shower sump install on Sheele 45 tease but STILL NO VIDEO? Hrrrumph. My answer to quiz #2 was going to be “spinnaker storage preparation tube” but @Anders beat me to it. My second guess is that it’s for VERTICAL BEER PONG! I like that Randay suggested maybe going electric with this one. She’s obvious built for speed, not cruising, so wouldn’t need much to get ‘eh out and back in again. Thanks for sharing 😊.
Spinnaker packing tube. Put the rubber bands on the orange bucket, and stop off the chute every 8-10' or so. Hoist the chute in stops behind the jib, gets it up a few seconds early. After bearing away at the mark, trim the sheet and all the rubber bands break from the foot to the head - with no gnarly twists, or an hourglass!
The bottomless bucket is for preparing the spinnaker for launch using rubber bands. Similar to what cruising boats use, with attached bag, to launch and retrieve cruising spinnakers.
I have spoken to the owner, there are definitely a couple of soft spots (fall 2020) on deck. Owner said a couple of weekends of work to correct.....your experience may vary.
A beautiful boat but would need almost unlimited budget; unless somebody extremely handy & skilled could slowly build her back, close to her former glory. It would be interesting to hear her life story if she could talk. What a great live aboard this could potentially be and take you almost anywhere (providing the keel is intact). Thanks gents another awesome video!
The orange bucket affair is for bagging your spinnaker and blooper. In days of old you would put rubber bands around the bucket and slip them onto the sail at intervals. Keep up the great work from a fan in Ireland
They were a great tool and it was so cool to hoot .hit the mark ..and trim the sheet and watch them pop open The asymmetrical bags are not pretty and require no skill or finesse Sadly they say fish eat the rubber band s. Now we got to come up with biodegradable or edible rubber bands Dying to vist my heritage there some day
I've seen that orange gadget before. It took me a while to remember. I've seen it in late November or early December. It is used to bale Christmas trees. You shove the tree through and the netting feeds around the 🎄. Haha. I figured it was for a packing a spinnaker.
THE RED BUCKET LOOKS LIKE A PACKING DEVISE FOR A SPINNIKER. WE USED TO TIE THE SPINNIKKER WITH SOFT WOOL YARN. PUT IT INTO THE BAG. LAUNCH ALOFT TO THE TRUCK n POP IT WITH THE SHEET n GUY.
The red bucket in mystery item #2 is for packing a spinnaker before the next hoist or packing away in the sausage. As you drag it through the opening rubber bands on the outside of the pail are released every couple of feet to hold the chute in a cylinder shape. Boy were we neglectful of the environment letting all those rubber bands fall overboard.
Did someone mention Concordias? 😆 Living in hope that we see one soon. This S&S has really slick lines - loving the discussion of design history evolution.
The sprocket apparatus is part of the steering mechanism somehow, I'm guessing. I also guess that the orange bottomless bucket on the flip-out bulkhead is used for dousing the spinnaker coming from the hatch on the foredeck.
I have a good friend who owned and very successfully raced a 1985 (or so) Tartan 40, similar to the 41. Around 1989 he decided to sail the boat to the Azores with a 56’ sloop following about 24 hrs behind him. While racing the boat the year before he had inadvertently hit a rock and damaged the rudder. It as inspected and appeared to be ok. Just in case, he had a jury rig rudder that he could mount on the reverse transom just as a back up. All went well until 1500 miles offshore, the original rudder broke and washed away. He and his crew mounted the jury rig rudder and continued on in a high swell and 25 kt of winds. After several hours, the edges of the transom failed from the stress from the rudder and the boat began shipping water. They put out a Mat Day call, but there were no ships close by. Fortunately, they raised their companion who made all haste to reach them. Bailing all night they kept the boat afloat until help arrived. They transferred crew and some belongings using a rubber raft which was quite harrowing in that seaway; no one was hurt. Within an hour after getting everyone aboard the other boat, the Tartan sank to the abyssal plane 5000 fathoms below.
The red funnel type thing in the middle of the cabin is a device to repack large spinnakers and blooper sails of that era, without twists and crazy turns
And more specifically, spinnakers go through there and many rubber bands would be put stretched around the non-flared side that would be let off and put around the spinnaker as it was threaded through. The rubber bands then would keep the sail in a bunched up "line" until it was hoisted and then the bands would break when the sail was filled with air. Very clever thing!
From an interior restoration standpoint, the good news is I believe all the wood is solid and not veneer. That will make it much easier to bring it back to condition. That headliner, on the other hand, will involve a lot of work and skill. Would make a fast cruiser for a couple. On the exterior, Tartan's glass quality should allow for the gelcoat to be brought back in decent fashion with only a lot of elbow grease. Could be a cool boat for someone with the time to invest and a cheap facility (barn) to keep it in.
torange funnel is there to get rubber bands on the spinnaker as you repack it! I agree with someone else that the geared gizmo could be from an autopilot system.
@all - I agree and also respectfully suggest adjusting points for “value-for-money”: 10 cuz she floats, up to 5 for safety (can be fixed), up to 10 for design and exceptionalities (e.g., exceptional upkeep), up to 10 for value-for-money, and up to another 10 for “X factor”. As far as I can remember, the highest rating CQ has given so far is 35 (out of 45?) and that was for a very pretty wooden boat. Just goes to show, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and numbers mean nothing when you fall in love 😊.
The orange bottomless bucket is so you re pack the spinnaker and when not doing that you can use it to look at fish swimming. The other item is a base plate for the bronze. Zanzaver Reactor that was on Arnie Gay desk has he looked at women's legs as they walked across Spa Creek Draw Bridge. Fair Winds and Following Seas from the crew of Sv Celtic Lady Seawind II 68 Ketch!
This is the perfect project for jolted and heart-broken 20-year-old kid trying to find himself. Over the course of getting lost in the project, and spending all his money on epifanes and rubbing compound, he decides that he is worthy of love and that "it [was] her loss." After two years in the boat yard, countless trips to West Marine and the Home Depot, he motors off the dock, and down the channel towards open water, only to find the floor boards floating 3 miles off shore. But the brightwork looked awesome!
That is the Capt'n's panic prop. When someone presses the panic button it activates the panic prop atop the Capt'n's hat, which alerts the crew to engage the panic mode on this boaty boat.
Cap, I think you would be justified in subtracting points for hazards esp. on project boats. ie. mold and hazardous decks. I was concerned for your well being as you traipsed around the ice covered deck. We don't want to loose either of you or the valuable service you provide us.
The bucket shaped gadget is for correctly packing spinnakers, quickly and effectively. Usually the lightest & youngest crew member was given the job of spinnaker packing! We all did our stint and cut our teeth offshore racing starting as the spinnaker 🐒
At that price point you could have so much room to refit and make it a true cruiser. Maybe a shower in one of the quarter births. And block off the other side to a nice double cabin. Build up the dinette and put cabinets where the pilot births are. Would be such a beauty and fast cruiser. Wish I had the funds to buy this and start a build channel making this my dream boat.
I love Randy's shoes. It is too bad this boat has been let go...but I love seeing fixer uppers along with nicer boats. Thank you for another excellent video.
I think mystery item #1 is an Octopus Autopilot rudder feedback potentiometer. If I win, I'd like Ran-Day's Rapha jacket: mine is shredded from through-deck bolt-heads!
Yup. I'm as in love with this Tartan like my ex wife. Great back in the day but downhill as time went on. Seriously though I don't know if it would be worth the investment to bring this boat back to life. Someone will rescue her and I wish them luck. Thank you again Captain Q for a look back to yesteryear.
Your points rating seem more generous lately compared to the earlier boats. If true, could you give updated scores to the unsold boats to better compare with the recent ones? This Tartan is just a couple shy of the Cal 40. Hard to get my head around that. Either way, thanks for the shows. Real help as I move forward from browsing to serious window shopping. Lot of good boats up your way.
I have a feeling that once everything is cleared from the cabin, the cleanup would not seem as huge. Front what I could see, sanding and refinishing would be the biggest job.
The bottomless bucket is used to prep the spinnaker with elastic bands!
The mystery gadget with the sprocket appears to be part of a "bicycle" chain drive auto-pilot system. It fits onto the hub of the steering wheel with the two flanges nesting into the spokes of the wheel. The rest of the system is likely somewhere under the interior rubble. I helped a friend of mine install a similar system on his new 1980 Niagara 35 back in the day and it worked like a charm.
give him some merch !!!!
Hello, I have the 1972 Tartan 41 hull #3 that I am restoring. The former owner added 13" to the keel giving her 7'5" draft and she is 12'3" athwartship. . I found her in the woods in Maine in the mud literally. She was in much worse shape that that one. She would not even float. Once I got her her to Florida (St. Petersburg) by truck it took me 5.5 months just to get her to float. I did all the work. I have done so much work on her it is staggering. Good thing I have years of boat repairs under my belt. Every system has been replaced. The engine is a 1985 Westerbeke 46 and runs like a champ. Everything from the desk up as far as rigging has been replaced except for the mast. All the standing and running rigging has been replaced, which I again did myself. She was rode hard and put away wet in so many ways. She has been in the water now 6.5 years. I would be happy to share my story/advise/pics to you and anyone else interested in what I have done. She sails like a banshee and even with my blown out sails I have had her up to 10.4KTS! The interior still needs some lovin as do many other aspects. Thanks for the prezo.
That is a terrific story
I would love to see some pics of her.
Did you restore the interior to cruissable condition as well ?
@@YachtHunters I am still working on the interior, Apparently there was a fire the scorched and ruined the main cabin sole. Needless to say it needs replaced too. I live on her now and I work form home so she is my office too. Still trying to figure out what I am going to do with the interior. I bought her from the Main Maritime Academy in 2014 in Castine, Me where she had been in the woods for 5 years. She had to over winter there due to weather conditions not allowing her to be transported so I did not get her here until April 2015. The FO removed all the real seacocks and replaced them with ball valves. The 10" wide channel iron backing plate for 7 of the keel nuts was almost gone. When they picked it up at Salt Creek Marina I could see the keel wagging. I had a worse keel smile than the one in your segment. I used Pettit flex poxy but it did not stay very good. I think next time I will use G-Flex. I was so glad it did not fall off. The mast was sitting directly on that backing channel and the forward half up 3.25" was gone. I had to cut 3.5" off and have a new step made. Someone had drained the crankcase oil in the bilge and all fuel tanks leaked. Boy did she stink. The engine was so out of alignment it vibrated the prop strut loose and I had to glass a new one in. That was a challenge. When I had her weighed she came in at 21K lbs without the mast which weighed in at 1K lbs when fully rigged. That is just the tip of the ice berg. You could do a whole segment on the work I have done on her. Where should I post the pics?
Brings back fond memories. We had a brand new Tartan 41 donated to the university I attended after it raced a TransPac in 1977. It was a honey of a yacht. Easy to drive. Lovely to do foredeck on in a race. Very livable. I liked the main cabin berths more than the quarter berths. The nav station was function. The one we had included a ham radio and a LORAN as part of the electronics. I was lucky enough to have a student job teaching sailing and taking care of the boats the school got. There were many yachts that came through the pipeline. But that Tartan 41 was one of my favorites. Condition aside, it was nice looking back in time into the nooks and crannies of the sister ship of an old friend.
We used to "stop" both the chutes and bloopers with very thin rubber bands or sometimes rot line which is just slightly decomposed string.
rotten cotten
@@YachtHunters yes indeed!
What is the possibility of seeing progress updates on a couple of the boats you showed, were purchased, and are now being made sea Worthy?
Good idea!!!
I was just thinking the same after they mentioned the new owners of the Cal 40.
Ran-day, liked the port and starboard deck shoes. I also am liking all of the little stuff in your edits that give good visualization of terms mentioned about the boat. Every episode, am learning new nautical terms. Keep up the good work and great content you and Captain Q are providing on this channel.
Much appreciated! Thanks for the kind words, Keith!
As an owner of a Tartan S&S design sailboat, it breaks my heart to see this boat in its current condition. Agree, this would make a great UA-cam project boat for a young couple.
We would use that bucket contraption to drag the spinnaker head through and put rubber bands on to avoid it setting early next time it goes up.
I agree. Although a few rubber bands overboard doesn't seem much compared to all the plastic in the ocean, I couldn't do it that way today.
I second that, with no doubt.
Rubber is organic but you can use wool yarn like I do@wheelerstudios
Quiz #2...thats for re-banding the spinnaker for relaunch, onced doused and brought back below. The pitman and foredeck crew place rubber bands around the hollow bucket. Then pull the chute through head first rolling the bands on at some interval
I don't see any deal breakers with this boat. She has good bones, beautiful lines and an amazing amount of room below decks. If the engine works and the refit is kept simple, you'd have a fabulous, versatile boat, for not much money.
What would you do in the refit
Having read some comments, I'm chuffed at having sussed the usage of the two mystery objects. I'm a non-sailor so didn't make the precise connection with the spinnaker, but could tell that in a limited space, passing a sail through the bucket thingy would be helpful in bringing correctly orientated sails up from below while under way. The metal prongs mounted on a clearly chain-driven gear was easy. This channel has taught me a lot about how sailboats work to the point where if I had a boat it would now be a motor-sailer rather than a pure motor boat as it once would have been, CQ does a magnificent job of de-mystifying sailing.
The bottomless bucket is to prepare the setting og the spinnaker by attaching rubber bands.
I raced one for a year. SORC and Bermuda . Cruise her in the Bahamas. Great sea boats and great both to weather and down wind. Dick Bertram was with us on the Nassau race
This boat will come together much easier than she appears. But she will take some$. But any old boat will. New sails riggging probably a roller furler. But you would do this on any boat of this vintage. That’s why it is 11000. You will spend around 45000 to get her ready.
Thank you for your comments that’s a great note Regarding her history and potential going forward. Happy new year
I have a recently acquired Tartan 34C that is so vintage and similar to every old Tartan. My eyes and heart love her looks and solid build... my experience says update and make her livable but don't waste time and money when you can be out sailing.... in Hawaii
The audio has gone missing at the end, but we've heard Mr. Q's spiel so many times that we know what he's saying including Ran-day's "you know instagram's not a place"
ROFL, haven't stopped chuckling since you hit the "Panic" button! so funny.
Thank you Captain and Randy for another interesting boat tour. Certainly a project boat and your suggestion to strip it clean and then put back everything that is workable would be the fastest course to getting it back on the water. Drying it out would be the most critical and first thing to do while you did the clean out. Also would need a storage space for all of the salvageable materials to dry out would also be needed at the start. Wish I had the years ahead of me to tackle something like this it would be a fun project and could be made into a very fast cruiser.
I own a Sparkman and Stevens Catalina 38 1984. A yanky hull with a great friendly Catalina design . It has a huge salon with all the tumble home . I consider my self lucky to have this boat which is in great condition .
It was a beautiful period of S&s design
Very sad to see what was once a beautiful boat left to just rot and rust 😔 however it’s always great spending time with the Captain and Randay ⛵️⛵️⛵️🥰
Another great video. I liked the jazz at the end over your like and subscribe segment. Quite original.
Another terrific report on a very interesting orphaned boat. The production of your videos is first class -- enhanced by the lovely musical accompaniment.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Anders and Don got it! In service that bottomless bucket would have rubber bands on it. The spinnaker would be passed through the bucket, with the leaches straight, and rubber band “stops” would be rolled off onto the spinnaker every few feet for the length of the leaches. The spinnaker would be hoisted behind the Genoa, close by the stops, much the way a more modern sock would do. As the boat would round the weather mark, the trimmers would trim the sheet and the guy rapidly opening the spinnaker to the breeze…. And pop, it would fill as the Genoa was dropped to the deck! It makes me feel good too see it too Captain !
An interesting boat Captain, but I don't have enough years left to tackle her. In my younger day it would have been a different story. That said I enjoyed the tour. Keep the good stuff coming.
This is a wonderfull boat that deserves a complete rebuild. That said it really should be a $$ DOLLAR BOAT $$ CHEERS AND FAIR WINDS Steve h.
the orange round bucket with the bottom missing is for packing the spinnaker when racing. The pit man gets the grunt work down below ;)
.zinng
That orange tube is for passing the sails in for easy fluff and fold. And that mechanical wheel is a weedwhackers blade for a giant. Wish i had a barn. this would be a fun refit
Sprocket adapts ships wheel to a wind vane
Orange cone supports spinnaker bag packing
Always love these episodes! In search of something like this S&S! Could be a beauty plus I learn something new every time. Thanks guys
First, we thoroughly enjoy the weekly Captain Q videos...keep 'em coming! Second, our guess is that the mystery hardware is an Automatic Direction Finder (ADF) radio bracket.
Nope
The orange tube is for banding the spinnaker with rubber bands ready to hoist.
The sprocket gizmo is an autopilot adapter for the wheel. (V notches engage the spokes). I forget the brand but it is a self contained unit the size of a shoebox with a reciprocating rod that engages the sprocket. The “box” part has a knob to set the compass course and another knob for gain.
I think the orange thing is for measuring dry spaghetti for a very hungry crew. And the swivel thing is for winding skeins of thin rope. LOL. No, you got some good answers below. Great show, thank you once again.
Thsnks WBMY … the spaghetti answer definitely gets honorable mention
“I wouldn’t open that if I were you ….😊”. Ha! The overdubbed Chihuahua grin made me LOL! So … shower sump install on Sheele 45 tease but STILL NO VIDEO? Hrrrumph. My answer to quiz #2 was going to be “spinnaker storage preparation tube” but @Anders beat me to it. My second guess is that it’s for VERTICAL BEER PONG! I like that Randay suggested maybe going electric with this one. She’s obvious built for speed, not cruising, so wouldn’t need much to get ‘eh out and back in again. Thanks for sharing 😊.
there would be a lot of winners if it were for vertical beer pong (or is it losers?)😂
The orange “thing” inside is to pass the spinnaker thru and put the elastics bands to keep the spinnaker closed while hosting.
Spinnaker packing tube. Put the rubber bands on the orange bucket, and stop off the chute every 8-10' or so. Hoist the chute in stops behind the jib, gets it up a few seconds early. After bearing away at the mark, trim the sheet and all the rubber bands break from the foot to the head - with no gnarly twists, or an hourglass!
A foredeckman after my heart
I remember in high school, drooling over the ads in magazines, for Tartan boats. Sad to see this one looking so beat
Looks like the orange bottomless pail below would be used for furling/folding the blooper as it was being lowered. My best guess!
The bottomless bucket is for preparing the spinnaker for launch using rubber bands. Similar to what cruising boats use, with attached bag, to launch and retrieve cruising spinnakers.
The orange thing is for puting nets around Christmas trees. That geared thing is off my car and I want it back ! Love your channel.....😎
You get the novelty award lol
Thank you guys again for some knowledge along with good humour 💯stay safe guys and thanks from B Bay🙏🙏
I Love the Shape of this boat. I am not deterred. I see only great potential here. 🥰
The hull shape is really cool! - I wonder about the condition of the deck core.
I have spoken to the owner, there are definitely a couple of soft spots (fall 2020) on deck. Owner said a couple of weekends of work to correct.....your experience may vary.
A beautiful boat but would need almost unlimited budget; unless somebody extremely handy & skilled could slowly build her back, close to her former glory. It would be interesting to hear her life story if she could talk.
What a great live aboard this could potentially be and take you almost anywhere (providing the keel is intact). Thanks gents another awesome video!
The orange bucket affair is for bagging your spinnaker and blooper. In days of old you would put rubber bands around the bucket and slip them onto the sail at intervals. Keep up the great work from a fan in Ireland
They were a great tool and it was so cool to hoot .hit the mark ..and trim the sheet and watch them pop open
The asymmetrical bags are not pretty and require no skill or finesse
Sadly they say fish eat the rubber band s. Now we got to come up with biodegradable or edible rubber bands
Dying to vist my heritage there some day
Quiz 2. Spinnaker douse. Wrap spinnaker w rubber bands for next set.
I've seen that orange gadget before. It took me a while to remember. I've seen it in late November or early December. It is used to bale Christmas trees. You shove the tree through and the netting feeds around the 🎄. Haha. I figured it was for a packing a spinnaker.
THE RED BUCKET LOOKS LIKE A PACKING DEVISE FOR A SPINNIKER.
WE USED TO TIE THE SPINNIKKER WITH SOFT WOOL YARN. PUT IT INTO THE BAG. LAUNCH ALOFT TO THE TRUCK n POP IT WITH THE SHEET n GUY.
The bucket was for packing the spinnaker. You load it with rubber bands that you used to band the chute for hoisting.
I like the built in banding bucket.
The red bucket in mystery item #2 is for packing a spinnaker before the next hoist or packing away in the sausage. As you drag it through the opening rubber bands on the outside of the pail are released every couple of feet to hold the chute in a cylinder shape. Boy were we neglectful of the environment letting all those rubber bands fall overboard.
Love, Love, LOVE S&S designs,.. classic and beautiful.
Did someone mention Concordias? 😆
Living in hope that we see one soon.
This S&S has really slick lines - loving the discussion of design history evolution.
I vote yes on a Concordia 39. One of my all time favorite dream boats with terrific history. Should be right up the Captain's alley.
@@matthewmonroe5338 The Cap'n should be spoiled for choice considering how many are for sale in New England.
The sprocket apparatus is part of the steering mechanism somehow, I'm guessing. I also guess that the orange bottomless bucket on the flip-out bulkhead is used for dousing the spinnaker coming from the hatch on the foredeck.
I have a good friend who owned and very successfully raced a 1985 (or so) Tartan 40, similar to the 41. Around 1989 he decided to sail the boat to the Azores with a 56’ sloop following about 24 hrs behind him. While racing the boat the year before he had inadvertently hit a rock and damaged the rudder. It as inspected and appeared to be ok. Just in case, he had a jury rig rudder that he could mount on the reverse transom just as a back up. All went well until 1500 miles offshore, the original rudder broke and washed away. He and his crew mounted the jury rig rudder and continued on in a high swell and 25 kt of winds. After several hours, the edges of the transom failed from the stress from the rudder and the boat began shipping water. They put out a Mat Day call, but there were no ships close by. Fortunately, they raised their companion who made all haste to reach them. Bailing all night they kept the boat afloat until help arrived. They transferred crew and some belongings using a rubber raft which was quite harrowing in that seaway; no one was hurt. Within an hour after getting everyone aboard the other boat, the Tartan sank to the abyssal plane 5000 fathoms below.
Yikkes thank you glad for safety of all though.
The red funnel type thing in the middle of the cabin is a device to repack large spinnakers and blooper sails of that era, without twists and crazy turns
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The orange bucket device is to pack sails in bags quickly
And more specifically, spinnakers go through there and many rubber bands would be put stretched around the non-flared side that would be let off and put around the spinnaker as it was threaded through. The rubber bands then would keep the sail in a bunched up "line" until it was hoisted and then the bands would break when the sail was filled with air. Very clever thing!
I remember VIB racing in the Off Soundings a few years back
From an interior restoration standpoint, the good news is I believe all the wood is solid and not veneer. That will make it much easier to bring it back to condition. That headliner, on the other hand, will involve a lot of work and skill. Would make a fast cruiser for a couple. On the exterior, Tartan's glass quality should allow for the gelcoat to be brought back in decent fashion with only a lot of elbow grease. Could be a cool boat for someone with the time to invest and a cheap facility (barn) to keep it in.
well said, Echappe! drying it out would be a great first step... and stripping it out to see what you're dealing with.
torange funnel is there to get rubber bands on the spinnaker as you repack it! I agree with someone else that the geared gizmo could be from an autopilot system.
Easy! The bucket helps wrapping Christmas trees into nets. Randy, do you have your own channel with the beautiful Scheel? Cheers
Great answer. Very timely But not quite right
@all - I agree and also respectfully suggest adjusting points for “value-for-money”: 10 cuz
she floats, up to 5 for safety (can be fixed), up to 10 for design and exceptionalities
(e.g., exceptional upkeep), up to 10 for value-for-money, and up to another 10
for “X factor”. As far as I can remember, the highest rating CQ has given so
far is 35 (out of 45?) and that was for a very pretty wooden boat. Just goes to
show, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and numbers mean nothing when you
fall in love 😊.
well said, Chris!! your rating scale does sound slightly more rational 😊
notched bar with the gear looks to be the part of an autopilot that attaches to the wheel. The notches fit the wheel spokes.
The orange bottomless bucket is so you re pack the spinnaker and when not doing that you can use it to look at fish swimming. The other item is a base plate for the bronze. Zanzaver Reactor that was on Arnie Gay desk has he looked at women's legs as they walked across Spa Creek Draw Bridge. Fair Winds and Following Seas from the crew of Sv Celtic Lady Seawind II 68 Ketch!
I second the chute packing attachment
love to get this beautiful design to New Zealand I would for shore bring it back from the brink....love it
She would love that beautiful coast! A good match 😍
That orange thing is a spinnaker organizer.. helps to.pack it up
The geared mechanism is believe is related to emergency steering . Great history but one heck of a project !
This is the perfect project for jolted and heart-broken 20-year-old kid trying to find himself. Over the course of getting lost in the project, and spending all his money on epifanes and rubbing compound, he decides that he is worthy of love and that "it [was] her loss." After two years in the boat yard, countless trips to West Marine and the Home Depot, he motors off the dock, and down the channel towards open water, only to find the floor boards floating 3 miles off shore. But the brightwork looked awesome!
I think the mystery gear mount is a mount for a blunderbuss! Every good pirate ship needs one of those!
just ask the skipper of Gandalf (episode 19)!! 😀
@@YachtHunters ahhh yeah i remember the green steel fighting ship!!!!
That is the Capt'n's panic prop. When someone presses the panic button it activates the panic prop atop the Capt'n's hat, which alerts the crew to engage the panic mode on this boaty boat.
My week is complete.
Cap, I think you would be justified in subtracting points for hazards esp. on project boats. ie. mold and hazardous decks.
I was concerned for your well being as you traipsed around the ice covered deck. We don't want to loose either of you or the valuable service you provide us.
Thanks for your concern. This is a perilous vocation 🤗
@@YachtHunters Indeed it is. You really get up there. Me - I get vertigo 5 feet of the ground.
The bucket shaped gadget is for correctly packing spinnakers, quickly and effectively.
Usually the lightest & youngest crew member was given the job of spinnaker packing!
We all did our stint and cut our teeth offshore racing starting as the spinnaker 🐒
Perfect project for an energetic couple wanting to launch a UA-cam channel ⛵
I crewed on one of these back in the day.
Going downwind was always a nail-biter.
At that price point you could have so much room to refit and make it a true cruiser. Maybe a shower in one of the quarter births. And block off the other side to a nice double cabin. Build up the dinette and put cabinets where the pilot births are. Would be such a beauty and fast cruiser. Wish I had the funds to buy this and start a build channel making this my dream boat.
Too many 70’s race boats were not maintained inside but got frequent new sails and today neither inside nor outside hold enough value to restore
I love Randy's shoes. It is too bad this boat has been let go...but I love seeing fixer uppers along with nicer boats. Thank you for another excellent video.
Red for port and green for starboard haha!!
@@greenwave819 Exactly! 🤣
I think mystery item #1 is an Octopus Autopilot rudder feedback potentiometer. If I win, I'd like Ran-Day's Rapha jacket: mine is shredded from through-deck bolt-heads!
Ran Day has some serious editing/film production skills
Yup. I'm as in love with this Tartan like my ex wife. Great back in the day but downhill as time went on. Seriously though I don't know if it would be worth the investment to bring this boat back to life. Someone will rescue her and I wish them luck. Thank you again Captain Q for a look back to yesteryear.
That what I was wondering
If there no deck to get redone
It shouldn’t too bad
She probably hated sailing anyway!😉
Even before they stepped on board, I was thinking “What a beautiful hull!” I’ve clearly been watching a lot of Captain Q!
you've been bitten!! 😂
It is sad that such a great boat was left to rot. Shows what a big difference a few years can make!
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The orange thing, I think, is for packing a spinnaker after dousing and drawing it down into the cabin.
Bloopers also keeps the boat stable down wind very important on early IOR
great point!
I like the realistic price could be a great project for the right guy. It's rough but definitely worth the second chance it deserves 👍😎✌️
that's the spirit!
It’s a sail funnel/horn, maybe? To help stow a spinnaker?
Oh my goodness, I love that boat, it has huge potential. Shame I live on the other side of the world ...
Fed Ex
Looks like a spinnaker gun....great idea on how jt is mounted can you demonstrate?
The mystery part goes with a wind generator!
The man is correct. That is a spinnaker packer!
Been waiting. My guess is a something involving and autopilot (metal gear thing) The funnel looking device would related to sail handling
Thank you!
You bet! Thanks for coming along with us, Mitchell!
Love the jazz tunes. Awesome thoughtful design. What do think it would cost to make apple pie?
Is Randy's shoes red and green to signify harbor entrance buoys? Haha because if they are, I love it
Must be port and starboard shoes to match CQ’s suspenders. I love ‘em too!
Orange cone is for stowing the spinnaker. The geared butterfly - my WAG, has something to do with the rudder mech.
14 points seems fair, but dang, she could be so much more.
She probably hated sailing anyway!😉
Is the red tube on the fold out mounting used to wool spinnakers , on other race yachts a bucket with the bottom cut out is used for the same purpose
“Stop” spinnakers …yes thank
Your points rating seem more generous lately compared to the earlier boats. If true, could you give updated scores to the unsold boats to better compare with the recent ones? This Tartan is just a couple shy of the Cal 40. Hard to get my head around that. Either way, thanks for the shows. Real help as I move forward from browsing to serious window shopping. Lot of good boats up your way.
I have a feeling that once everything is cleared from the cabin, the cleanup would not seem as huge. Front what I could see, sanding and refinishing would be the biggest job.
I agree completely
Great fixer upper!
The orange scoop is for packing the spinnaker.