Injecting Windows 10 Taskbar into Windows 11
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- Опубліковано 1 гру 2023
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Today I am going to show you how Microsoft broke ExplorerPatcher and my findings on how to potentially bring back the Windows 10 look & feel to Windows 11. Surprisingly, albeit not too much, the Windows 10 explorer is sort of forward compatible with Windows 11, which means we can just use the Windows 10 file explorer application with Windows 11 relatively without any serious problems! I believe it's possible to patch the Windows 10 explorer application with minimal effort to substitute the Windows 11 one, as the systems are way too similar to each other.
Links:
ExplorerPatcher - go.enderman.ch/explorerpatcher
Password:
mysubsarethebest
Still got questions? Don't hesitate, send them to contact@enderman.ch!
Hope you have a great day!
#endermanch #experiments #windows - Наука та технологія
Enderman should work for Microsoft, since he's better at improving it then the workers themselves
right. one day he might get a invitation for employment from bill gates himself!!
He distributes software cracks, so he's probably on their hit list.
@@soundspark which softwares? if its about chatgpt video, it is meant for test that an ai can literally give you a free activation key. not intended for real use though
@@jynz_l He has pirated software on his own malwarewatch website.
but still@@soundspark
They're focussing on the wrong things. We need more Windows builds that had many years of development put into them. Microsoft tries a new UI on every major release instead of trying to perfect the existing one while gradually adding features if they are stable enough. At this point I don't plan on upgrading Windows anymore after I noticed how much functionality in Windows 10 started degrading from just regular updates. I hope they have better quality control on Windows 12, or spend the effort they spent on Windows Vista where they made everything graphically super consistent and added as many options as they could. On Windows 10 and 11 they designed icons for programs but never applied them. Windows 10 doesn't properly have bitlocker and defrag icons in place for example, despite these icons having been designed and included in Windows. Also, can I get access to the Discord server back?
I have Win 11 on my Laptop and its so trash.
What annoyes me most is that they added a new dialog when you right click in Explorer (that one with rounded corners, showing options like copy, cut, delete etc) but it also has an option called "more options" and clicking it just reveals the old right clicking dialog from Win 10.
This just shows how unfinished Win 11 is.
Also after 10 years they still arent finished with migrating Control Panel to the new Settings.
@@UndercoverDog Windows 11 is very unfinished, it has at least gotten better since the first time I downloaded that leaked build in 2021. I have Windows XP, 7, 8.1, 10 and 11 installed and I switch between them often. Have been using 7 for the past week though because it is super fast. Windows 10 is fine but not the latest versions. The updates after 1809 just go downhill, they started with adding random parts of the Sun Valley ui transition with the new explorer icon in 1903. It's also in this version where the brightness of my display doesn't smoothly change anymore. Redstone 5 is probably the last good version of Windows 10, even tho the search is already degraded over 1803. I don't think the control panel will go away any time soon. They did get rid of certain things like customisation in control panel but they did that in Windows 8.1. Not much changed since.
windows 12 might be bad, yes this is said from a windows 11 user
they didn't actually remove any features from control panel in windows 8.1 @@teamredstudio7012
They can‘t even be bothered to assign like 10 people of their like thousands people team to make a consistent ui.
Wait so did they just add in code to make it not work, rather than actually remove the code?
This reminds me when Microsoft break (on purpose) Aero Glass (Glass 8) in Windows 10.
Not only Explorer, but many other Windows components are also swappable. The explorerframe DLL file can be swapped with an older one from build 21332 to completely disable the XAML File Explorer UI and reduce padding for the addressbar and search box!
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My brother in Thor I know you did not just nerd emoji on a video literally about replacing software with legacy versions of itself@@Abigblueworld
@@AbigblueworldI hate when people use the nerd emoji in that way it’s kinda rude ngl
@@Casonplayz yeah
@@Casonplayz same, people who use that emoji completely dont know anything how that works, so first they read the comments, and then nerd them. but this time its different he nerded him for a "heart" or is he trying to call him "newbie"?
I work with the IT support department at my school, and as one of the people there said "i f***ing hate windows 11" as he tried to extract a zip file and explorer kept crashing, im guessing that what he said could be reflected in what microsoft are doing with windows, making it all look nice while looking at stability and asking "is anyone going to fix that" and deny any answers, while taking things from previous version of windows that are better and deliberaly breaking them, which causes things like homegroups still being mentioned in the contol panel, at least on windows 10.
The saddest part is that it looks like garbage regardless of how hard microsoft "tries".
I also have the same experience with extracting zip file but instead of crashing explorer, it extracts my file extremely slow (like it take a whole 2-3 minutes for 10 mb file)
@@NetRa1nSame bro
I'd recommend ticking the "Launch folder windows in a separate process" option, and switching to Linux.
my computer teacher fucking hates windows 11, i got in trouble for installing it
granted, i shouldn't be doing that anyways
That "Language preferences" dialog actually comes from the touch keyboard of all things. Microsoft randomly decided to make the touch keyboard always enabled, just slightly off screen. I guess it might have sped up loading times, even though there are none. Explorer gets confused and shows that UWP dialog for some reason.
it being like that was probably the only way they could do it beacuse i dont think any of those windows tablets wold have been able to load that keyboard in and out everytime you wanted to type
i know i'm late but it's probably something to do with windows 11 being based off of windows 10x (update: i check the context again and i don't even know)
Just another interesting thing: Windows 8 and 8.1 have a different keyboard for the Desktop and Metro interfaces. The Desktop one has the "Touch keyboard and handwriting panel" from Windows 7, with an option to dock it to the bottom edge. The Metro one is rendered by DWM (the window compositor, which used to handle Aero) directly. They both look the same and have the exact same features. Windows 10 removed the desktop one and replaced it with the DWM one to better handle fullscreen apps. Windows 11 keeps the Windows 10 keyboard; I couldn't find any differences between them (other than visual differences). Explorer also plays a role in the keyboard overlay, so maybe something has changed with how Explorer and DWM talk to each other between Windows 10 and Windows 11.
I remember swapping 95/98 explorers killed the system. this shows that windows 11 really is windows 10 with a pretty coat.
Pretty? Hardly.
@@bandofcomradesexactly
No it did not (if done correctly). Search for "98lite Micro".
wdym by pretty?? i disagree
ugly coat with every advertising corporations mic hotglued to the collar*
Windows 11 is so much like Windows 10 that the Windows 10 explorer works in Windows 11 properly and even restores the Windows 10 taskbar
a few things are wrong
- The "fix" will break with every update
- this change is currently in Canary and will probably remain tied to a velocity ID, AKA disabling the ID will fix Explorer Patcher.
This is the way
The problem is: the missing system tray on the windows 10 taskbar (canary only)
Make it read only I guess?
Okay we're all definetly gonna agree on this. Microsoft is really pushing it's user-experience and UI with their office apps. They are overusing the design, For example: The office app has curved corners, and every other app has curved corners. Don't forget the fact that they use the same "Do you want to allow this app from an unknown publisher to make changes to your device?" UI for the "Save" "Cancel" "Do not save" When you open the outdated Video editor app, There's an error that comes over with rounded corners, saying that it has been replaced by the clipchamp app.
Tons of legacy code from windows 3.11 still lives in 11, but the windows taskbar, the most useful thing they had, no that they've managed to rip it out of the codebase which probably took a lot of work and for what? It's not like it was bothering anyone. I'm gonna backup my explorer from build 22000 in case an update somehow occurs even with it disabled, you never know these days. Thanks for the awesome content and keep it coming!
Also this gave me an idea: on my ARM based computer, ExplorerPatcher doesn't work so I'm gonna take ARM64 based explorer.exe from 10 22H2 which I got on my Lumia 950XL and try to put it on my Surface Duo which has windows 11 22621 running on it and see if that works.
@@sersoft_corp did that work?
The good thing of 22000’s explorer is that the code from the old taskbar is complete and untouched since windows 10 build 21376
*Windows NT 3.1, because Windows today is NT based
No code migrated from 3.1 to 11.
I love that we can drag Windows 11 kicking and screaming into using the Windows 10 stuff since the internal version numbers are still NT 10.0
Love how Microsoft removes the best features of the last version with every update.
Microsoft is kinda doing in Apple way.
changelog for version 1.5:
added new explorer.exe ui
changelog for version 1.5.1:
removed explorer.exe cause the new ui sucked, have fun in cmd
The good thing is that the old windows 10 taskbar removal happened only on canary
@@arnislacis9064we’re talking about OS not hardware
Microsoft seems to assume that they don’t have to put any effort into making Windows any good, because not many people are going to switch anyway. So far, they seem to be right about that. Heck, they fired the whole QA team and released several duds (with one of them even deleting user’s files). If that doesn’t make people switch, nothing will.
Dude i am so not switching even if i got hacked twice(already happend)
no, they don't have to put any effort into making Windows any good because people will be forced to switch regardless.
Yeah, hopefully ExplorerPatcher could fix the issue not to break compatibility with 23H2.
well, they could just run the vivetool command (this change will probably be tied to a vivetool feature ID) during the setup. Also, this change is in the Canary channel so it probably won't be released in any 23H2 update, more likely 24H2/12/hudson valley.
The straight up deleted the code, I think, rather than hardcoding it out. The file size of the Win11 explorer is smaller. Phenomenal.
Totally agree that they should add Aero and/or Luna theme. I'd finally update then.
Yeah but unfortunately I do not think it will happen anytime soon since Microsoft does not care about good looking user interfaces anymore.
This is something Microsoft really should've done back in Windows 8 instead of embracing boring flat design language/styles; Keep the Aero Glass theme as an option, plus bring back the Windows XP and classic themes.
Windows could use more customization, especially with themes. Not everyone likes flat, opaque title bars and eye-burning white windows… (Yes, the Aero theme that I want was unfortunately a light theme like that but still.)
Of course, if Microsoft let users make their own color schemes and themes again, it would reveal a problem: Programs can use their own colors and completely ignore your choices, which I think was a mistake.
@@XaneMyersLinux anyone?
If Microsoft keeps using Luna as a default theme for another 22 years, will you accept it?
I am pretty sure most people would for nostalgia reasons.
Windows users try to make it better and Microsoft tries to make Windows worse...
December 3, 2023 6:02AM
what's with the date?
This solution to the popular problem is actually quite straightforward…
ExplorerPatcher is the reason why I haven't just downgraded to win10 on my new laptop. It needs to be a core part of the OS, not something that's battling new updates.
You mean upgraded to win10
I love how Micro$oft actively makes their own product worse. The decline of such and important and ubiquitous tool is just so depressing. Honestly they need to narrow the scope and finish what they started windows 11 is windows 10 because Microsoft is constantly trying to jump on the next new thing when people value usability not rounded corners a different icon pack and a horrible right click menu. Their feature scope is all over the place their scattered brained approach is missing the most important thing the eXPerence that’s what made XP so good it was simple and elegant this is convoluted and contrived. It’s like trying to paint over rust/remnants like Andrew was saying but you never end up seeing the paint all you see is the rust.
I swear to god if they make another bad version I’m switching to Linux 😭
At this point Windows is no longer an operating system. It's even worse than the advertising billboard that it is. It's become a disease; Microsoft makes these creepy, unwanted changes to Windows. Happy to have left it for good in 2019. Linux all the way baby! Can't remember what a license code was. I just watch from the cheap seats and go "yeah Microsoft! Way to go! You've done it again!"
Yeah, I'm planning to start switching to Linux next year. I think I'll make it my new year's resolution to install Linux, and use it for day-to-day tasks.
I'm a Apple person sometimes.
@@novatiberium I used an iMac from 2009 to 2020. It was nice, but my goals now require hardware that OSX isn't on at a price I can pay. But yeah, Mac OSX is a pretty good operating system.
As someone still on 22H2 version of 11, I see this as a absolute win
same my guy!
23H2 is still safe dont worry (i think) but i think the next moment update can break it
i cant download 23h2 somehow i tried windows update
@@to-ast good. you dont want your explorerpatcher to break.
@@atsizbalikit’s only on canary it’s not even in dev
I like how Windows allows 3rd party software, yet when they do, they screw it all up
It's quite funny that Microsoft start to phase out Windows 10 Explorer code but not fixing the sethc exploit yet🤔🤔🤔
You mean replacing it with cmd? I believe windows defender will pick it up and throw it away. Haven't tried it on newer versions of Windows though.
@@thepikachugamer well still virus can disable Windows Defender and use that exploit still (I think)
@@thepikachugameryou still have a time window of a few seconds to open sethc and then you can use it the way you want, you can also allow it on the device or just edit registry to open cmd instead of sethc.
Microsoft: lets just kill ExplorerPatcher for no reason
Windows 10 Taskbar: *YOU CANT DESTROY ME THAT EASILY*
now replace the windows 11 logon ui with the windows 10 logonui
Love to see Enderman back on my YT Recommended page! Keep up the great work!
Well I hope the new fixed version can work on my system since in my case, from the 1st day 22H2 came out, ExplorerPatcher and other taskbar utilities (classic shell to make another example) just make everything go unresponsive and freeze within two minutes after boot (first taskbar becomes unresponsive, then it crashes, then the wallpaper disappears, then task manager stops working, then ctrl+alt+del stops working, then the mouse cursor freezes, then alt+tab also stops working, then no keyboard input works anymore, then you're forced to hold the power button).
Doesn't seem to be the case for all users, but the fact the same thing happened to two different computers I had, and both after I upgraded from 21H2 to 22H2, well, it's fishy...
(in the end I had to uninstall and live the last year with basic start menu and taskbar)
3:32 i have done this way before that change
it's so funny to see windows 10's explorer.exe work on "modern" windows 11
Good stuff! The other frustrating part I find is that Microsoft is locking out legacy OSes from newer technologies. 7 and 8 have been sealed away with the push for DCH drivers. Gaming on 7 has been taken away for new games due to DirectX12 + the DCH driver issue I mentioned previously. And then, with their newer OSes, they do just a sloppy job and focus on places that are unimportant - while demanding everyone use those OSes.
Coupled with a lack of a QA department, you see the state of Windows as it is right now.
It's really sad.
You should check if they fixed the registry editor which says that the OS name is "Windows 10"
Merry Christmas, Andrew! Subscribed to you since 2019. Every. Single. Second. I see the views and likes rolling up!
You haven't realized you are subscribed to a misogynistic russian.
if you replaced the explorer.exe with the one from Windows 10 1903 it will have the right click context menu and ribbon back
Dude glad to see you back!
I switched to Windows 11 as I found a custom build called "Ghost Spectre" which has a lot of tweaks to make it a usable OS, and nuked updates through group policies, otherwise I wouldn't touch it with a 10-feet pole
I remember from WinXP era that there was a software called ViGlance that bring Vista and Se7en taskbar to WinXP with Aero glass and everything, can you check if that runs? I don't bother to have Win11 not even in a VM in the state it is now, nor do I intend to install it as primary OS in the upcoming decade.
Yo enderman what wallpaper do you use?
reject the windows 11 ui, return to command prompt
2 endermanch videos in a row thats awesome
The fact that you can just swap out the shell executable from one version to another shows how little difference there is in the backend between the two, it's almost as if they're the same operating system with a few visual changes hacked in on one of them.
The fact you choose this song is amazing
the fact that windows 11 is so similar to 10 that you can literally replace explorer.exe with the 10 one and it works perfectly fine in 11 is just crazy
Startallback does this but using its own overlay, and requires a task scheduler event to keep it from ending the evaluation.
if you still like the new explorer but old taskbar, just replace explorer with the explorer from the build where it wasn’t yet changed.
Oh yes, the one from that leaked build back in 2021
@@VaiCaDep0893 not what i meant. i meant the build before the change was made to make explorerpatcher not work
Speaking of XP Luna Blue, you can force Windows to use the classic #245DDA as the custom colour, theme your taskbar the same colour, set the text as #ffffff white and set the change if yoiu’re using Open Shell. I’m running Apple Guy’s dynamic modern Bliss wallpaper set. 😊
Microsoft Devs: 1/10
Enderman: 1M/10
I really love this videos! An idea: Try installing Windows xp on a sd card!
He already did that with 7
@@derpboxstudiosxp is harder
I wonder if you could put a task bar from like Windows XP or 7 into Windows 11?? I know it's a stretch considering, but I wonder what would happen...
I think that a newer version's Explorer, like 20348 could work better
Watch, next move they make is to force the latest version of Explorer and to download it and launch system recovery if it detects older versions
Windows 10 did that every time an update would be installed. We're already there.
@@DGTelevsionNetwork I meant in real time
As an explorerpatcher + taskbarx user on Windows 11 this very helpful to know. Microsoft rolling out Ls like usual
I recently downgraded to Windows 10 and have not regret it.
either way my computer doesn't officially support 11, and while I think the Windows 11 UI is sometimes visually pleasing, it lacks a lot of functionality that the 10 UI offers, and it's just so tablet-y
@stay_mad123 certainly not an upgrade because it isn't Windows 7
@stay_mad123 true...
6:22 grandma style
Can you give me the link to that melody called Let's go you used in your old videos?
i'm using startallback which much like explorerpatcher, reverts the windows 10 taskbar and adds a few cool tweaks. in combination with openshell, it makes me feel pretty at home, as if i'm still using windows 10.
though, i've been forcing myself to stay on windows 11 21h2 since microsoft has changed something with themes in 22h2. i'm using a custom uxtheme patch-based theme which after updating to 22h2, causes the context menus to freak out and not display anything at times. it's extremely frustrating and i don't wanna get rid of a custom ui-wide black theme (which i don't see why microsoft struggles to make one). not to mention all of the ai bloat microsoft is injecting into windows past 22h2, which makes me pretty uneasy with what windows might become usability-wise, though 21h2 luckily doesn't suffer from this. these changes will make windows not feel like windows anymore and i'm kinda scared to see what'll happen with windows 12.
Windows 12 is going to have a monthly fee
Just looked up the Windows 12 features MS has revealed so far. I see no trace of old Windows features. The GUI honestly looks like Windows 11's but tailored for tablets or touch screens. And MS is telling us to expect MORE AI stuff on Windows 12.
Unless their reveals aren't final or MS will be giving us a lot of customization options, you might find yourself sticking with 10/11 for much longer.
1:01 i still have the windows 10 one as system on the newest windows 11, tho the start or anything dosent work, its only the time and the icons near the time and not even any pop ups, and its white? This was using userinit tho
I wonder how his channel is doing, but I’m glad to be watching another endermanch video!
This is actuarly Awsome. I do wonder if it would work on other os's. must try lol.
It's strange how Microsoft only removes backward compatibility when they shouldn't
how did you get that cursor?
God I miss windows being feature complete they really peaked with 2000/XP
I might be missing something but wouldn't replacing explorer.exe change how the file explorer looks/works?
wouldn't that too be the win10 one?
i'm guessing both explorer.exes rely on some other system files that define the looks of everything... except for the taskbar it seems
Just out of pure curiosity, is it possible to do this the other way around? (Import the Windows 11 explorer into Windows 10 22H2). Would be cool to see a video on that, whether it works or not.
*to enderman/andrew*
Have you ever tried to apply for a job at microsoft, They'd probably hire you.
also, you can try to mod minecraft or something to do with minecraft,
hack a server with cmd, editing the packets before sending them to the server.
6:15 You can immediately see how Windows 11 has gotten better)
At around 1:34 you get a bug in Windows that I consistently get and this is the first time on the internet I've seen this. The taskbar will just freeze and crash every once in a while and it's just frustrating. I love modding Minecraft and not only does modding Minecraft require technical knowledge of how the game's folder structure works but you also need to have a file manager. This crash can instantly ruin mods worth of work into putting in. They seriously need to fix the bug.
EDIT: Oh and I forgot, but this is on Windows 10, not 11. And even then, 11 is just 10 but worse. I don't know how Microsoft thought that 11 would work in the grand scheme of operating systems.
That’s because of search highlights and news and interest trying to load
You might want to use a 3rd-party file manager (not tied to the explorer process, you don't lose your open folders if it crashes). I recommend Total Commander.
But what about the taskbar,@@robertplayz9157? Is there a workaround for that?
@@robertplayz9157 he was saying that he used the windows 10 explorer to restore the old taskbar in windows 11 but explorer entered into a crash loop because of search highlights and news and interest
because he though that explorer patcher stopped working on every windows 11 version but it only it stopped working only on canary on every other windows 11 version explorer patcher works fine
Try putting explorer.exe from windows vista to windows 7, I am sure it will work just as well.
Theoretically, couldn’t you swap Win7 Explorer.exe with windows 11’s? My main guess on why it wouldn’t work would be incompatibility’s with modern system things, but a patch could be made for it.
Two consecutive uploads? God treatment
Now I'm curious on what would happen switching the explorer from win11 to 10
Or also taking like explorer from windows xp and placing it in 11, guess ill try in a vm
Yeahh he rocking the geometry dash together with the yet to update csgo icon and always so groovy creo music
@endermanch put a disclaimer for the video saying that explorer patcher is broken only on canary because everyone thinks that explorer patcher stopped working on every windows 11 release
Wow, I barely finished watching the last video and another one is out!
You can use start11 to change the start menu to windows 10
Hey, my Win10 explorer updated in newest Windows update and they just made the boxes around the "This PC" smaller and they don't fit and the taskbar looks glitchy with dark theme. Any fix? Wasn't like this even yesterday.
I still use Windows 10 (LTSC) on my PC, I still don't want to upgrade to Windows 11...
Perfect music and video
I am glad I am still using Windows 11 22H2 on my desktop because I am using this program to make my computer look like Windows 7 and the look would be out of place without it.
It already happened to me in the stable build, explorer patcher won't work when I try to click Windows 10 Taskbar then clicking restart Explorer it just won't show but it is not a huge problem for me because I only wanted to try it
I personally use ExplorerPatcher's Windows 10 Start menu and the Windows 11 taskbar
This channel deserve million subscribers.
or just downgrade to windows 10
Upgrade*
@@ToNielson WINDOWS 11 IS AFTER WINDOWS 10
@@robloxian131 yeah, but functionality and usability wise Windows 10 is an upgrade from 11
@@ToNielson i dont understand
Or use just ExplorerPatcher
You did it, holy shit you really did it.
Glad I'm still sticking to Windows 10 until all the customizer programs work the Kinks out.
Enderman should make his own windows 11 clone.
Just "upgraded" to Windows 11 (22H2) this year. Besides 11 looking like a more decent and stable OS now, what convinced me is the more consistent and less flat GUI, live captions (super handy for ppl like me), and ofc available mods/tweaks for 11.
Ngl, as an IT guy who used to pan 11 a lot, I'm content with it so far. And a lot of the 11 users I've helped are content with theirs. *But* if current 10 users ask, I'd still tell them to stay put and hope 12 will be better.
windows ran so slow on a new install that it had the windows 10 taskbar and restart later it's gone
why did you put on dashstar* by knock2
Windows 11 is so borked, once I tried to log in and the only, *only* thing that would show up was the activate Windows watermark
How did you make the search bar turn into a rectangle/Windows 10 one? Explorer Patcher works really well and the Windows 11 update didn't glitch anything, maybe because I didn't install that update not too sure. But the thing that I don't like is the search bar I have, the search bar is just a tiny button. This type of tutorial feels pretty complicated.
Because the windows 10 explorer and Windows 11 Build 22000 Still has the searchbox in the old taskbar
Also he used the windows 10 explorer in this video
ive been using explore patcher since i got windows 11 and only had a few issues when my pc decided to do updates that broke it but it was fixed in a day or 2 by the dev
Thank you for doing this and informing me.
i did the same thing but it doesn't show the volume button
Enderman blasting bangers to his videos
If they added the windows 10 taskbar, or even aero and luna, the windows 11 would be instantly the no.1 windows version
Start 11 brings more functionality to windows 11 taskbar and can also bring back windows 10 start meni but is paid but is worth checking
Enderman used that when he was in windows 11 back in 2021 and 2022
I cant be the only one that watches and pretends to know whats happening
Try reading the captions
I do
Hope you'll get hired in Microsoft!
alternative title: injecting the superbar into the windows 10 mod
Yes