A quote from the Three Kingdoms which every Chinese has watched on TV, one of the four major literature classics of China, states: "He who wins the hearts of men will rule the world." The same applies in the 21st century, where the internet makes information dissemination global. My bet is on China because integrity and benevolence (a prequisite Confucian value for any government officials) will always triumph over hypocrisy and aggression as practised by USA. China's foreign policy is win-win. USA's foreign policy is "if you are not with me, then you are against me" A zero sum game mentality. If USA wins, people around the world will get the status quo, a world full of sufferings in many parts of the world. If China wins, there will be peace and harmony around the world, a better world. A global Singapore, so to speak, where people of different cultures and religions can live in a thriving global village. USA rules by divide and rule, hence the constant wars and the global humanitarian crisis that follows, caused mainly by the West. China rules by uniting the world, hence the BRI, allowing global cultures to live in harmony. To live and let live. Finally, zero wars, unless of course, the West continues with their military imperialism.
Caulder, about 18:00: ". . . aspects of Japanese rise that the world regrets, and I'm sure Japan regrets. . ." No. Japan has shown no sign of regret. It continues to deny atrocities such as the nan Jing massacre, its leaders continue to worship the shrine of those who committed those atrocities, it continues to refuse to formally apologize, let alone providing compensation for, the the descendants of millions of victims they murder and brutalize. Typical of Westerners, so ready to twist facts in support of their allies, while doing the same to spread rumors and lies against nations who don't bow to them.
Justin Wong, You are right on! The former masters refuse to understand that expression of apology is, at a minimum, what it takes to start building a better atmosphere. The continual arrogance of the West is a sign of their mental constipation. There is not even a shred of inclination for the Colonialists of the last two centuries to acknowledge their inhumane treatment of the rest of the world! Americans are stubbornly insisting that the world view can only be structured by the cabal in Washington DC. It is the sign of their parochial view they maintain. They will die by a natural demise they desperately need.
a time will come where a giant nuclear bomb is placed in space and is offered up in an auction, either a Rich Chinese or Rich Palestinian will win the bid and place the longitude and latitude of where to bring it home
In the 1950 ,s Elvis Presley was introducing rock and roll to America , it was recieved as a moral corruption and was " The devils music ". They may not have been to far wrong :) but we adapted to the King of Rock and roll and produced a great deal of iterations of that form of self expression. What I see as relevant to your discussion is the difference between Democracy and the Chinese centrally planned economy. There are narratives that are allowed to have voice in the west and it takes time to weed out the " misconceptions" and get consensus on " all" the information. You bring the best to the front and integrate it into the model based on pragmatic, educated reasoning. There's a time delay between the two systems and we don't mesh, synchronize in the way we should. That is what I think is the relevant issue to be understood. Which you just pretty much said.
My suggestion is to move the UN headquarters from New York to Singapore . Singapore cannot build the UN building free of charge. We are too small. UN has to build the headquarters at market price. Singapore may allocate a piece land at the new reclaimation at market price to UN instead of building a new casino. This is a purely commercial deal. In this way UN shall be out of US legacy.😃😃
@@bunnyfreakz Not at all. The US wishes it were. In fact, because it isn't, but is in favor of China, the US hopes in vain to have an alternative to the UN. The US hates that the UN is full of undemocratic countries, each of which has equal weight.
IMHO, US inequality stems from unequal government-funded education. The rich and upper middle classes are educated in top universities and private schools while the lower classes must go to low quality public school if they want to have school paid for. US needs educational choice and distribution of funds by education voucher. Schooling also needs educational support from parents.
Do you think the West want to help Asean and African nations who will one day compete with them knowing that She want to continue to dominate the world?
Help them by overthrowing their governments, stealing their resources, killing the indigenous people and enslaving the rest. The US was founded on genocide and slavery. They can’t change.
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This turmoil is more about US decline than China's rise. China will grow but it is US decline that will allow China to dominate the world's economy. It will not be 2030 but a sudden collapse of the US dollar that will push China into no. 1 spot. But the US will continue to be the center of innovation and technology for a long time to come.
" But the US will continue to be the center of innovation and technology for a long time to come. " In truth it is already into the process of losing that edge. Most of the innovations in the US are the products of "imported talents", not home grown ones. It is therefore not wrong to say that the US is the biggest thief of international intellectual talents. Once this source of talents dries up, the US will only have an oversupply of Kim Kadashians, Justin Biebers and Tom Bradys.
Once the dollar collapses, talented people will leave the country. Do you know who are the winners in math Olympic? Mostly Asian in the recent decades.
As usual, great insights. Kerry Brown is right, there is no body of scholarship and research on China's system, we're using a pre-Newtonian framework to explain a country that has jettisoned into the Quantum Age. China has to explain its form of results-driven democracy, the government that maintains a highly complex system of management that relies on micro and macro perspectives, constant feedback, calibration, mobilization, privatization and enterprise growth and the advent of the next technological paradigm of big data, AI, etc. is like jet fuel propulsion for this system. It works, as evident to the world. How it works, if explained, would go a long way in advancing understanding of China, useful for countries which might want to incorporate some of these methods, and remove the opacity from relations with China. The West and the world have nothing to fear, and everything to gain. Scholars who can bridge the East-West divide would be ideal, in order to synthesize a radically modern political knowledge.
@@thisiskevin1000 Agreed, but also information, scholarship, education, knowledge, from the Eastern perspective have been limited due to language and cultural barriers. Brown makes a good point. Modern China is a combination of civilizational + modern political, economic and development theories and more importantly, praxis. These thinking and methods can be beneficial for anyone interested in new approaches, concepts and tools to employ in developing effective governance.
yes... he intentionally chose to start from trivial matters... its how optimistic learned people talk about life and the universe... the title of their forum is "center for china and globalization"... the intention is understanding china/asia at the core,for global peaceful co-existence...
Unfortunately no one in the US can dare uttering a word in favor of US-China peaceful co-existence, each country following its own chosen development path.
Let me watch and and share my opinion about yours opinion OmAhMyDekHung...and the other dude on the bottom where I can see the name. So far, the host talk alot. But they are learning to be more professional to become more dehumanizing interview of the Western ways.
Just joining the Anglo-Saxon crowd, albeit a little late. It's just like the street crowd looting the local store, with the latest crowd arriving after all the best were already looted.
The first things China should do is to free Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tibet, and other provinces who want to leave. If China wants those country's mineral and human resources, they can engage in fair trade for them. This globalist plan is just a ploy to disenfranchise the poor and middle classes. Large populations and areas are just too hard to govern. USA needs to devolve the power it has taken from the states, and grow closer cooperative relations with Latin America.
Perhaps if the US regime start the ball rolling for all the states stolen from the First Nation people first, which is basically the whole of the USA itself, then your proposal for China can be considered.
A quote from the Three Kingdoms which every Chinese has watched on TV, one of the four major literature classics of China, states:
"He who wins the hearts of men will rule the world."
The same applies in the 21st century, where the internet makes information dissemination global.
My bet is on China because integrity and benevolence (a prequisite Confucian value for any government officials) will always triumph over hypocrisy and aggression as practised by USA. China's foreign policy is win-win. USA's foreign policy is "if you are not with me, then you are against me" A zero sum game mentality.
If USA wins, people around the world will get the status quo, a world full of sufferings in many parts of the world.
If China wins, there will be peace and harmony around the world, a better world. A global Singapore, so to speak, where people of different cultures and religions can live in a thriving global village.
USA rules by divide and rule, hence the constant wars and the global humanitarian crisis that follows, caused mainly by the West.
China rules by uniting the world, hence the BRI, allowing global cultures to live in harmony. To live and let live. Finally, zero wars, unless of course, the West continues with their military imperialism.
Congrats! An excellent discussion of the highest quality from all the 3 famous speakers & Henry Yao's able chairmanship.👍
That conversation elevated my understanding and I found it very reassuring.
Thanks for making it available.
This is great news. There is much hope in this message
Caulder, about 18:00: ". . . aspects of Japanese rise that the world regrets, and I'm sure Japan regrets. . ." No. Japan has shown no sign of regret. It continues to deny atrocities such as the nan Jing massacre, its leaders continue to worship the shrine of those who committed those atrocities, it continues to refuse to formally apologize, let alone providing compensation for, the the descendants of millions of victims they murder and brutalize. Typical of Westerners, so ready to twist facts in support of their allies, while doing the same to spread rumors and lies against nations who don't bow to them.
Justin Wong,
You are right on! The former masters refuse to understand that expression of apology is, at a minimum, what it takes to start building a better atmosphere. The continual arrogance of the West is a sign of their mental constipation. There is not even a shred of inclination for the Colonialists of the last two centuries to acknowledge their inhumane treatment of the rest of the world! Americans are stubbornly insisting that the world view can only be structured by the cabal in Washington DC. It is the sign of their parochial view they maintain. They will die by a natural demise they desperately need.
a time will come where a giant nuclear bomb is placed in space and is offered up in an auction, either a Rich Chinese or Rich Palestinian will win the bid and place the longitude and latitude of where to bring it home
🎵Dead Skunk 🦨 in the middle of the road!🎵 (A Song of the 1950’s in early AmeriKKKa’). 💀🦍💀🦇💀🐍💀🤮💀😳💀🕷
Totally agree. 👍
In the 1950 ,s Elvis Presley was introducing rock and roll to America , it was recieved as a moral corruption and was " The devils music ". They may not have been to far wrong :) but we adapted to the King of Rock and roll and produced a great deal of iterations of that form of self expression.
What I see as relevant to your discussion is the difference between Democracy and the Chinese centrally planned economy. There are narratives that are allowed to have voice in the west and it takes time to weed out the " misconceptions" and get consensus on " all" the information. You bring the best to the front and integrate it into the model based on pragmatic, educated reasoning. There's a time delay between the two systems and we don't mesh, synchronize in the way we should. That is what I think is the relevant issue to be understood.
Which you just pretty much said.
My suggestion is to move the UN headquarters from New York to Singapore . Singapore cannot build the UN building free of charge. We are too small. UN has to build the headquarters at market price. Singapore may allocate a piece land at the new reclaimation at market price to UN instead of building a new casino. This is a purely commercial deal. In this way UN shall be out of US legacy.😃😃
you got my vote!
UN is just US and their goons.
😂😂 Indeed, it would be timely, nice and cheaper to run from Singapore, fulfilling the whims of Asian century
@@bunnyfreakz Not at all. The US wishes it were. In fact, because it isn't, but is in favor of China, the US hopes in vain to have an alternative to the UN.
The US hates that the UN is full of undemocratic countries, each of which has equal weight.
IMHO, US inequality stems from unequal government-funded education. The rich and upper middle classes are educated in top universities and private schools while the lower classes must go to low quality public school if they want to have school paid for. US needs educational choice and distribution of funds by education voucher. Schooling also needs educational support from parents.
I like the idea of no hegemony, all as equal partners.
Kishore mahbubani 👍👍👍
Please open a forum for bri discussion and provide china and bri countries view on it
Thank you
Please get Helga Zepp Larouche as a guest from Germany
Also Robert Barwick from Australia.
Do you think the West want to help Asean and African nations who will one day compete with them knowing that She want to continue to dominate the world?
Exactly.
Help them by overthrowing their governments, stealing their resources, killing the indigenous people and enslaving the rest. The US was founded on genocide and slavery. They can’t change.
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Well said 👏👏Kishore mahbubani 🙏..well said Wang
the rise of Asia could start with a camera not off canter
For peace, we need globalism in place of nationalism. Global governance where wealth or rather benefits can be distributed fairly, not equally.
Global governance is by nature anti-democratic. Consider the Brexit complaints of the EU.
This turmoil is more about US decline than China's rise. China will grow but it is US decline that will allow China to dominate the world's economy. It will not be 2030 but a sudden collapse of the US dollar that will push China into no. 1 spot. But the US will continue to be the center of innovation and technology for a long time to come.
" But the US will continue to be the center of innovation and technology for a long time to come. "
In truth it is already into the process of losing that edge. Most of the innovations in the US are the products of "imported talents", not home grown ones. It is therefore not wrong to say that the US is the biggest thief of international intellectual talents. Once this source of talents dries up, the US will only have an oversupply of Kim Kadashians, Justin Biebers and Tom Bradys.
@ Spadey Say
Especially now the US has started to persecute the imported talents, putting them into prisons....
Once the dollar collapses, talented people will leave the country. Do you know who are the winners in math Olympic? Mostly Asian in the recent decades.
All we need is the USD: RMB to go down from 1 : 6.5 to 1: 5 . It could happen any time .
As usual, great insights. Kerry Brown is right, there is no body of scholarship and research on China's system, we're using a pre-Newtonian framework to explain a country that has jettisoned into the Quantum Age. China has to explain its form of results-driven democracy, the government that maintains a highly complex system of management that relies on micro and macro perspectives, constant feedback, calibration, mobilization, privatization and enterprise growth and the advent of the next technological paradigm of big data, AI, etc. is like jet fuel propulsion for this system. It works, as evident to the world. How it works, if explained, would go a long way in advancing understanding of China, useful for countries which might want to incorporate some of these methods, and remove the opacity from relations with China. The West and the world have nothing to fear, and everything to gain. Scholars who can bridge the East-West divide would be ideal, in order to synthesize a radically modern political knowledge.
Perceptions gap between the digitally savvy younger generation and the old ones has to be exploited.
Journalism has to be overhauled big time
@@thisiskevin1000 Agreed, but also information, scholarship, education, knowledge, from the Eastern perspective have been limited due to language and cultural barriers. Brown makes a good point. Modern China is a combination of civilizational + modern political, economic and development theories and more importantly, praxis. These thinking and methods can be beneficial for anyone interested in new approaches, concepts and tools to employ in developing effective governance.
Good conversation, but sorry, the moderator spent so much time for trivial matters.
yes... he intentionally chose to start from trivial matters... its how optimistic learned people talk about life and the universe... the title of their forum is "center for china and globalization"... the intention is understanding china/asia at the core,for global peaceful co-existence...
Really? Your comment is not?
If Asia to rise above the west. Asia must has is own currency independent of US currency.
Unfortunately no one in the US can dare uttering a word in favor of US-China peaceful co-existence, each country following its own chosen development path.
Not the corrupt and racist US politicuans.
uh uh uh, you know, and and and so so so ...
The moderator needs to freshen up on his moderating skills. Its frustrating to hear all the uh--uh--ai-ai.
He was speaking in his 2nd language not his native tongue
It's a shame that the moderator has the worst mic quality.
The host needs to be more articulate
Let me watch and and share my opinion about yours opinion OmAhMyDekHung...and the other dude on the bottom where I can see the name. So far, the host talk alot. But they are learning to be more professional to become more dehumanizing interview of the Western ways.
Jiiiiiijmm
The host needs lot polish
People are struggling to immigrate into USA
Just joining the Anglo-Saxon crowd, albeit a little late. It's just like the street crowd looting the local store, with the latest crowd arriving after all the best were already looted.
The first things China should do is to free Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tibet, and other provinces who want to leave. If China wants those country's mineral and human resources, they can engage in fair trade for them. This globalist plan is just a ploy to disenfranchise the poor and middle classes. Large populations and areas are just too hard to govern. USA needs to devolve the power it has taken from the states, and grow closer cooperative relations with Latin America.
Perhaps if the US regime start the ball rolling for all the states stolen from the First Nation people first, which is basically the whole of the USA itself, then your proposal for China can be considered.
Wishful thinking, thinking people of the world other than the West are fools
this guy is all about biased and inconsistent discussion.
Other than the host, the rest are super class !
the host is one of the sons of india who devote their lives for PEACE NO WAR
The host had the speak in his 2nd language which is a handicap causing him not to be able to express as well as the rest
Henry? I like him