Lone Wolf Stand Mod VS Hand Climber Seat for Saddle Hunting
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- In this video, I show my Lone Wolf Climber Treestand modification VS using the seat of a Lone Wolf Hand Climber as a platform for saddle hunting. To get a shirt like the one I am wearing in this Lone Wolf stand modification video, use this link - seans-outdoor-adventures.crea...
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Love this approach. I did a similar mod to my Summit stand last year and my entire mobile setup is less than 15 lbs. I agree, I’ll trade the few additional pounds for the benefits of stability, comfort, simplicity and space. Great video!
👍👍 thanks, Shane
Sean! Ya crushed it!!!
Lol thank you
This is a great idea. We have a lot of straight trees here. I am going to use the base of a Lone Wolf Assault climber that way I can use it still as a climber as needed. Sticks are s useful for the crooked, low branched trees. Thank you for your hard work and vids!
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Great points Sean. I'm one who has been using the hand climber portion. For the stability when at height, I use a little strap around the tree which gives me the stability I need. Do have to have a strap for my feet. I just use a long webbing strap that doubles as a rope attachment to my tether in case I need to go around a branch or something.
The size hasn't felt restricting but I've not had a larger platform so I don't know what in missing. :) Will have to try a larger platform sometime for grins and giggles.
As always, that's for the video as I always learn something.
Thanks for sharing, brother! God bless you
I like this series of videos. Ive thought about saddle hunting but am not a fan of heights. Feel like having a climber base may be more comforting for me.
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I’ve used a Lone Wolf Climber for almost 20 years before becoming a saddle hunter. I was a one sticking this past season. I have tested my Lone Wolf seat with a ratchet strap for stability and it is rock sold. I use black rubber bungees for foot straps which work great. The lighter better way to go seems to be the seat because it has a less bulky belt bracket in the way and is much lighter but you must use the ratchet strap.
Enjoy it
Sean, I used the seat section for the last half of last year with great success. Unfortunately I am reading on the forums that it has a high probability of breaking. I bought the whole system new and the foot platform pattern is a bit different than yours. I am going to take the plunge and cut it though. I am glad you did this first.
Yeah this is the old old platform. I have the newer one too that I did not cut. The newer design is actually better for cutting. It will give you a little straighter line across the front.
Where you drilled and put the bolt. I put an eye bolt on either side so I can use a tie down strap to secure the platform to the tree. It doesn't budge.
Great demo.
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The seat’s lower profile allows you to add tree steps on both sides of the seat for movement around the tree. It will take some practice to quit a ratchet strap but you can then side load the seat without tipping it.
Enjoy it
It would be Awsome if lone wolf COMBINED the concepts of the two platforms to make the ultimate climber for saddle hunting.
Take Hand climber and make the V groove deeper and teeth a bit longer to grab the tree better like the foot portion.
Angle the traction belt arms more like on the foot climber to allow the back of the band to clear the tree, and add the place to put your feet into in order to accend/descend.
Have it still weigh about 4 lbs .
They would make a lot of $$$$$
from saddle hunters!!
It’s the fastest way up the tree, just like in you speed comparison video with different climbing methods.
I actually looked into inventing such a stand and got bids from manufacturing companies but it's just too much for me to take on right now so I haven't moved forward with it at this time
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Ah ok yes it would be cool !
Thanks for responding Sean !
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Functionally we are talking about a 4lb climbing method and platform for $150. To get the climber base you have to buy the whole stand so that's 8lb and $400, $450 if you buy the sit and climb, and you wreck the resale value. Tetherd one sticks and a ring of steps can get you to a similar weight range (sub 5) and height with aiders, but at $450 with significantly more bulk. You simply cannot beat a LWHC seat for saddle hunting straight trees, everything is a compromise at this level of gear.
I bought this whole stand for 150. You just got to shop around and get a used one my friend.
@@seansoutdoors Totally agree deal hunting and gear swaps are great but if we are going to compare setups you gotta use the sticker price otherwise it's apples to oranges.
Thanks for watching
Love your video! You Shane Simpson and the diy sportsman are the best on you tube! I have tried it all one stick everything I have to say it’s just hard to beat the summit viper climber it sleeps real well!
Both great guys. They joined me on a map reading challenge a couple of years ago.
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They were on this hunt with me. We had a good time.
Your welcome in Alabama anytime! I may have an air bnb cabin for you guys to share on the Sam r murphy wma this year. Much butter then the campground. New Years is the rut for deer-turkey hunting is good. The hunting public hunt here every year. I will send you the listing of the cabin if I get it worked out. It’s a great relaxing spot to sip some sweet tea! Take care!
Kind of seems miserable to get up and down. I appreciate the content and all the videos you make. God bless
It's not bad. I prefer it over the one stick method any day
@@seansoutdoors have you done a time comparison between one stick, multiple sticks, and this LW climber method?
No I haven't . This would probably come in second and the once stick third. And the one stick a lot more work than the other two
It’s Great idea ,I got same Wolf self climber , but don’t want to cut over $ costs, but I like your idea 👍
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I just use the base without cutting, works great. I used the seat and the base is much better. I dont know exactly but weight of just base vs sticks seems comparable.
Hi Sean, That's innovative and I can see how this works. About the LW, I use the same climber, have no plans to cut my one & only up, but asking if you can think of an innovative mod for the seat. If the seat could fold-up when I stand-up, that would be nice, so it would much like the feature for a hang n hunt stand. As you know, the seat has the straps to the foot plat form for stability. How could one keep the stability and a fold-up LW climber seat? Thanks.
They do make a seat that folds up. In order to not have to buy a new seat you'd need a bracket against the tree that blots in on both sides of where the tubes attach to the seat. It could be done
Great video. I recently picked up a LW climber for $75. However the seat section is just the U shape with a padded sling seat so my only option is to use the base. I also have a Summit aluminum that I lost the seat portion years ago. I may mod the summit instead of the LW. Have you ever considered running a ratchet strap around the tree instead of paracord for stabilization? I tested in the back yard and I can put full side load on the stand with a ratchet holding it from moving.
Ratchet strap is noise and weight. You can do it but I'm not
I use a ratchet strap, works for me and gives me more confidence when I put side pressure.
Been using the lone wolf seat for 5 years, no issues.
Enjoy it
I used both and vastly prefer the base but to each their own.
Reading that some say it will break. Don't understand how they can be so absolute. Maybe they are larger individuals
I use both the top and I’ve also cut the bottom like this. Both methods are good I’m still not sure which one I prefer.
👍 I like the stability of the actual base as opposed to the seat. The seat isn't as stable when standing on it.
Way better idea than using the seat. You want a platform use one made to be a platform.
Thanks. I definitely like how this turned out
With all these mods, diy builds etc, what's your favorite, go to, preference, for tree climbing?
If I can use a climber, I tend to use my lone wolf climber over all. If it's a real long hike and I'm trying to cut weight, I use just the cut lone wolf platform and use my saddle and tether instead of the seat of the platform to climb the tree. If I can set a cordage in advance on a deep public land spot then I use the SRT climbing system for that. If I'm running and gunning with what I've got I use any of these three options.. if I know there's trees I can climb then I tend to use the climber options. If not, I'll bring a throw ball and SRT method ....
I was wondering if you was going to add the paracord just in case it fell from your last video
I had planned to from the beginning to add it for when I go around branches. I just did the other video to show the cut. I didn't show the full setup with bow holder and all. After getting some of the comments I decided to do another video to show the fully completed rig.
I done this exact mod and I love it! After using it, it’s hard to carry sticks back in the woods. Thanks!
Great!
Once you cut the bottom platform, did you notice any cracking etc.? Still working good after a bunch of use?
Yes, solid as before
Absolutely nothing, it’s rock solid. I love it. We kinda made the 1.0 into a .75 climber. Lol
I am considering doing this with my stand, but I’m a pretty big guy and worry if it would mess with the strength of the stand.
Hey do you know if the hand climber and hang on seat pads are all the same size or are they different? Do you know thanks
I'm not sure
Realized one point that you implicitly made but might have slipped past some people. Even with the heavier platform, you don't have to carry sticks since you're using a self climber which so you're still a ton lighter than most setups with sticks and a platform.
I've bought some sticks this year because there are trees that are either too large for the self climber or have too many lower limbs. I vastly prefer my climber for getting into trees but there's a public land area near me where the trees I want to hunt have a ton of low limbs that are a pain the posterior to use the climber on so sticks it is.
Thanks brother. I think I mentioned that in the other video I posted right before this one so I didn't repeat it.
Ok I don't need a seat base option I need to know how you mounted those aiders
You mean something like this
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Shawn . This is a great idea. I will be shopping for a used lone wolf climber. Was your used stand the alpha? I currently have tethrd on sticks (4 of them ) at 4 pounds and a predator platform at 3 pounds so a 8.5 pound modified lone wolf climber base is not bad if you know you are hunting a fairly straight tree with just one or two limbs. So much faster and roomier with only one and a half extra pounds!
Now don’t everyone run out and buy the used lone wolf climbers up :) till I get mine. PS there are still plenty of places I will use my tethrd one sticks and platform. They are great!
No I think the alpha has a more narrow back. I have big feet so got the regular base.
Do you know which model that is?
Hand climber II I think it's called
Thanks again ! Look forward to trying this out.
If you can’t find a Lone Wolf at a decent price, look for an XOP. They are almost identical and a lot more cost efficient.
I am considering doing this with my stand, but I’m a pretty big guy and worry if it would mess with the strength of the stand.
I did not find that the weight change of the stand really made it worth it..however, the stand is so strong that even after being cut it does not flex at all under my feet . I'm not saying you can expect the same, but I can say I can't budge mine as far as flexing it.
@@seansoutdoors thanks for the input
Sorry to ask just a basic question…am I understanding correctly that you don’t use climbing sticks with this setup?
Correct
How much weight did cutting it save? Is it that noticeable? I was thinking of cutting but would probably leave more on. Not sure its worth even citting though.
If your cutting less then I probably would not bother
You should definitely cut it. I cut mine and it’s way better.
What was the nut and washer for?
I show it in the video. I tie the rope around the tree using it to keep the base as stable as possible.
Can you do the entire base and not cut it
Absolutely
Wouldn’t it be cheaper and better to buy one of the many platforms for saddle hunting instead of destroying a good climber?
No because you can't use any of them as a climber. With those you need to bring in climbing sticks which adds to your weight load.
You dont need to cut it. I haven't. Carrying full base v sticks is still preferable for me.
@nicklausmisiti5204 I was wondering this....do you use the bottom part, ditch the top "seat" part, and use a saddle and tether?
Yes, I ditched the seat part.
You should have left the stand intact
Nah. It was a fun experiment